Activists at U-M Trying to Force Engineering Students to Study Race and Ethnicity

Robby Soave, Daily Caller, March 14, 2014

To become a good engineer of business major, a student must first study the all-important subjects of race and ethnicity—at least according to student government leaders at the University of Michigan, who are working to extend the liberal arts college’s race requirements to all colleges of the university.

A proposal, drafted by members of the Central Student Government, aims to reform the requirement that all students in the College of Literature, Science and the Arts study race and ethnicity before graduation. Moving forward, all students–even those in the Colleges of Engineering and Business—would be forced to take a class with a racial component, if the proposal were approved by faculty.


Activists hope that any proposal approved by the administration would assert identity-based themes—such as gender, sexuality, immigration status, religion and race—as a core focus of the curriculum at each of the university’s colleges.

The proposal is support by the Black Student Union, a race-based activist group at UM that recently made news for presenting a list of demands to the university. Administrators immediately caved to group’s most costly demand: a $300,000 renovation of the campus’s multicultural center.

BSU activist Shayla Scales said the proposal was all about creating more diversity.

“I truly believe innovation lies in the crevices of diversity,” she said in a statement. “Making sure that we incorporate diversity in all of our thinking and the way that we see the world will only lead to innovation.”

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  • paul marchand

    Maybe they could get more “diversity” by making THE GRADE.
    Isn’t MERIT the goal of universities?
    Why are blacks so ” special ” ?

    • dd121

      Their failure over the past 60 years is proof to me that isn’t going to happen.

      • When I was at Fairview high school in south Boulder in the early 1980s, it was a wonderful school. The officially-stated mission was “Promoting Academic Excellence”. They changed that somewhere along the line, however to the usual diversity drivel.

        • dd121

          My kids went to Ponderous HS in Douglas Co.. At that time it had a couple thousand students with one black kid. He got expelled for picking a fight with the kid who went on to become the valedictorian. The year she graduated the school had six National Merit Scholarship Finalists. No, one of them was NOT black. I think there’s some irony there. She said the private college where she majored in chemistry/biology was much easier than high school because they had prepared her so well. She breezed into medical school. My son eventually graduated from U. of Denver Law School. That was public education in the white suburbs 15 years ago. Now it’s “evolving”.

    • Xerxes22

      If you know the pc meaning of the word “special” then you know why Blacks are so “special”. They are the most “special” group in exsistance.

      • PvtCharlieSlate

        OK, here’s an idea: what kind of events would there in in the Black Olympics?

        • Ron Cheaters

          Flat-screen-TV-dash through a windstorm.

        • JohnEngelman

          The knockout game.

        • GeneticsareDestiny


        • IKE

          cussing contests

        • El_Baga_Doucha_Libtard

          For the men: Yo mama so fat jokes.

          For the “women”: Think of the most ridiculous names to give your children.

        • BillMillerTime

          Prison wall high jump?

        • Jenkem Huffington

          Hopefully swimming and other water related sports.

        • Charging in single-handedly to Save The Day? By just… well… charging in or something.

        • Jotun Hunter

          long distance mugging — endurance droopy-pants wearing — albino eating — speed-racism-accusations

        • nobody

          The 100 Meter Police Evasion Dash
          The Fifty Meter Stolen Flatscreen Sprint
          40 ounce Malt Liquor Chug
          7 Gram Crack Rock Smoke-Off

  • Truthseeker

    Can they study the scientific differences between the races, which will make it abundantly clear why “diversity” leads to tension and conflict? That would be truly educational.

    • APaige

      I look forward to the class about “Black achievements in Engineering.” Here is an abstract of the class: Ancient Egyptians built the pyramids…they were in Africa…Africa is mostly Black…

      • JohnEngelman

        They can learn about black achievements in engineering in a single week. It will take a thin pamphlet, two lectures, and a discussion group.

        • IstvanIN

          A single week is usually two classes. The first class you hand out the syllabus and have and introductory lecture. The second class you would go over the reading and turn in your final paper.

        • Ron Cheaters

          Step 1: Put on the hard-hat & safetygoggles
          Step 2: Find the nearest white guy to explain the blueprints to the crew.
          Step 3: Find a quiet corner to sit back and read a nudie-mag.

        • Jenkem Huffington

          Then the rest of the semester discussing how YT is preventing the talented and superior negro from achieving.

  • thomas edward

    These stupid academics never tire at showing everybody what dumb cowards they are. I don’t blame the dumb blacks a bit on this a bit. If you know you’re going to get what you want, then why wouldn’t you demand what you want?

  • Jesse James

    Diversity propaganda won’t make that bridge or skyscraper better or safer. Engineering students have enough on their plate without letting them be tormented by diversity teachers who couldn’t build a dog house or do enough math to figure out how much paint they need to paint their living rooms. I like most people of a certain age put up with this diversity farce our whole careers thinking that it was a stupid but relatively harmless freak show. Now every year the demands become more strident and the punishments for not singing in synch with the Cathedral choir become more onerous and dangerous. Once I thought it would fade away as America’s basically meritocratic system lifted the best and the brightest from all races and ethnicities, however, that doesn’t seem to be what the radicals in control have in mind. They won’t be happy until every white face is pushed down into the mud.

    • Diversity studies will make the bridge, airplane, or building more UNSAFE. A friend at one of the big tech companies was constantly wrestling with diversity (blacks after white women who weren’t doing their jobs) much to the detriment of the product.

      • Tarczan

        A lot of the engineering done today is done by smaller firms of 50 to 100 people. Most of these engineering projects are bid, so there really isn’t much room to carry an AA special. Big companies, steel mills, utilities, etc. all have their AA special darkies, but these days the engineering is being farmed out to consultants.

        • Max

          And a good deal of the paper design work is farmed out overseas companies via internet where they can pay an EE 15k/ yr. White Americans still lose.

    • Max

      As you know, they are terrified of actually bringing up the best because it is the “privileged whites” who naturally make the cut. They need to be pushed down so that the favored groups can appear to rise in relation.

    • The notion of the United States as a meritocracy is done; stick a fork in it.

  • We were forced to bring race and gender into Economics 101 at the University of Texas at San Antonio, due to the president’s orders (Dr. Ricardo Romo). In my classes, there was no Cultural Marxist interpretation of the facts, unlike in Romo’s book on the East LA barrio. Maybe that has something to do with why I’m not working there anymore. Economists are probably, along with engineers, the most resistant to egalitarian garbage.

    • Max

      They are trying to infiltrate engineering too by making up gov’t-only employer type jobs like “environmental engineering” or worse, “environmental studies” which is predominantly EPA regulator or city and county code enforcers jobs built upon environmentalist-wacko liberal studies courses. Add to this the swarms of student-visa Indian and various flavors of middle-easterners and Chinese in all kinds of engineering and there will be no need for “diversity” courses in engineering. The whites will all be gone anyway.

      • There are so many Hindus at the University of Texas at San Antonio that a huge number of visitors to the university’s website are from India. Somehow the word got out in India to come to San Antonio, study, and then stay. They are a major infestation near the university. The big Wal Mart there often has no white people in it at all. Just Messcans and Hindus

        • IstvanIN

          Sound like a NJ Walmartinezmart.

        • Tim_in_Indiana

          I can just imagine how well they get along with each other!

    • Yes, my economics professor is refreshingly sane. He even takes regular digs at Obama and Obamacare, which makes me pretty happy.

  • DaveMed

    BSU activist Shayla Scales said the proposal was all about creating more diversity.

    “I truly believe innovation lies in the crevices of diversity,” she said in a statement…


    Lol. She might want to look at the demographics of the scientists who discovered or invented all the technology that makes first-world societies… well, first-world.

    (BTW, what kind of inane phrase is “crevices of diversity”? Note to Ms. Shayla Scales: don’t try to wax poetic when doing so just makes you sound stupid.)

    • MekongDelta69

      I really would rather NOT know her “crevices of diversity.”


      • Ron Cheaters

        Whatever those crevices are – they’re bound to smell bad.

  • MekongDelta69

    Jay = Eminem-Zee squared minus Fiddy Cent.

    There. Now, can I have my diploma please?

    • RisingReich

      You failed, b/c you’re still throwing Eminem in there. Whites not permitted, even when they emulate blacks on the regular.

  • sbuffalonative

    Engineers are analytical thinkers. Expecting them to think in social terms is counter to their nature.

    This won’t give them empathy for minorities. It will only heighten their awareness of group differences. They will see this as a waste of time.

    Mocking derision to follow.

    • Malgus

      Exactly. Forcing a bunch of Engineering INTJ’s, arguably brilliant, to suffer through an obvious waste of time is just asking for trouble.

      I’m envisioning Sheldon Cooper from Big Bang Theory suffering through some “African Diaspora Studies” class… 🙂

      To paraphrase, most engineers are one lab accident away from being a super-villian. Pissing them off isn’t generally a good idea…

      • IstvanIN

        When will we finally get that super villain? We need him now.

        • BillMillerTime

          I hear ya. Makes me think that the various “civil rights acts” should be applied to the county clubs just as they are now applied to hotels and restaurants.
          Either everyone enjoys property rights and freedom of association, or no one does.

        • For the most part, I just don’t have the heart for it anymore.

          • Brian

            It’s hard to find a good volcanic lair these days.

      • Fighting_Northern_Spirit

        As an INTJ, I enjoy your description of us.

        • Malgus

          Not a problem.

          INTJ’s make good masterminds… but, I’m an ISTJ.

          ISTJ’s make good soldiers, hit-men, trusted captains, etc..

          One of my favorites…

        • Malgus

          This is you all, pretty much..

  • dd121

    Just let them work in the rice fields for a year. Then they can get the full peasant experience and bask in the proletariat work ethic. At night they can shower at the Mao memorial cleaning station.

  • bubo

    I imagine this will be pushed through. In academia, whatever blacks demand, they get.

    • sbuffalonative

      It likely will but it will also backfire. It will be the source of much ridicule.

      • It’ll also cause serious engineering students to pick a different university. College students these days have to bite off crazy amounts of student loan debt and this debt can not be escaped even with bankruptcy. The smarter and more industrious students – like engineering majors – tend to want good value for their money; they’ll just go someplace else.

        When I was an undergrad at Santa Cruz, a non-European history class was added as a graduation requirement. The blacks immediately pitched a fit, saying that white students would study Asian history. I was already taking lots of history classes, in order to break up an otherwise hard science curriculum, so I took one on Chinese history. I enjoyed it enough that I took another on subcontinental Indian history, and then one on the modern Middle-East.

        Of course this was not what the racial grievance on campus lobby wanted.

    • dave

      It’s called black privilege!

  • Luca

    “BSU activist Shayla Scales said the proposal was all about creating more diversity.”

    I have two questions for Shayla and every like-minded activist.

    First, can you absolutely prove that diversity is good by citing hard evidence? Secondly, if you can, how much diversity is enough?

    Because the American people have had more than enough of this diversity fantasy.

    There is the incessant liberal propaganda being spouted at every turn as if it were fact, and then there is the stark, harsh, nightmare of reality.

    • evilsandmich

      Like someone over at Taki’s said: if diversity was all that great you wouldn’t have to force people to do it.

  • Allan477

    When I was in college fifty years ago I took a course on German history; would that count as diversity?

    • Max


    • GeneticsareDestiny

      I took a class on European History a few semesters ago. The professor was displeased that his class didn’t count towards our diversity requirement (yes, unfortunately my university has one) and told us about it. He thought it should since there’s so much diversity of culture in Europe.

      I feel kind of bad for him. He’s spent so much time in academia (he had tenure) but he’s still unaware that in liberal thinking, diversity simply means no white people.

      • I’m surprised he had the guts to even say that in front of everybody. Cool professor.

  • Daniel Schmuhl

    This wouldn’t be a bad idea if they actually taught race realism and not humanities gibberish. I had a take a sociology class like this, i argued with the instructor nonstop. At one point i pointed out the fact to the instructor that blacks do commit more crime.

    Race is a social construct to some extent (like other abstract categories that humans think of), but populations do differ in alleles by geographic area. And so I don’t really see what point that they’re trying to make when they say, ‘race is a just a social construct”.

    • You’re really onto something regarding our use of words. However, I’m not sure any academics will pick it up. In truth, academics may not at present have the tools for it. I am almost certain neither MacDonald nor Jared Taylor nor other famous people on side do. And definitely people not on our side do not have such tools.
      But it could be analyzed if some people of the right sort started to seriously, carefully, calmly dig into it. I myself, just lately, have been explicitly thinking about these kinds of issues.

  • The main purpose of this is to put more warm bodies in all the useless “studies” courses.

    Turn the tables: Make all the “studies” majors pass an engineering course.

    • foundingstockcracker

      Man Iz be takson dem partal dif-tenal ekasions.

      • Max

        Y’all takin dem cracka maff classis? Sheeet!

        • “Hey dog, you wanna do dis homework for me? I pay you.”

          • Garrett Brown

            Dog isn’t used anymore. You must go to private white schools.

          • Right, I guess I should have said, “Hey n*gga.” That’s probably more true to life.

            No, I just avoid black people as much as possible. But I have overheard several blacks and Hispanics chattering about having a smart white kid do their homework for them. A Hispanic girl in one of my classes offered me “any amount of money you want” to write a paper on “The Death of Ivan Ilyich” for her the night before it was due.

    • MekongDelta69

      (African Diaspora Studies / LGBT Studies) x (Feminazi Studies / Illegal Alien Studies) = Well? I’m waiting for an answer here? D’Shawntavious, do you know? La’Queesha, how about you? Class? Anybody want to take a guess? SOMEBODY…

      • Max

        We hace recently “enriched” the offerings here with a “Holocaust and Genocide Studies Program” I wonder how many courses they will be offering on the elimination of white Christianity from America.

      • Ron Cheaters

        Sheet someone makes a square pie yo. Dat sheetz crazy!
        (The whole class cheers)

      • GeneticsareDestiny

        Hmm…well, African Diaspora Studies/LGBT Studies = black LGBT studies. Feminazi Studies/Illegal Alien Studies = Illegal women’s studies

        So black LGBT studies x illegal women’s studies = LGBT African illegal women’s studies. A class all about homosexual black illegal alien females.

        I think we’ve found it, the epitome of diversity.

      • Reverend Bacon

        It’s a trick question. Dividing by zero is not defined. That’s 4 zeroes up there, although I could teach a course in the last one (Illegal Alien Studies) that would make the lib’s head spin. It would be a semester-long, quantitative class to calculate the cost to society of our lax policies in general, and to build a model to estimate the damage that any proposed legislation might do. There would be ample research, survey design, stochastic methods, and sensitivity analysis. Like I said elsewhere, Shytavious doesn’t want engineers to look too closely at the void that I call Reparation Sciences.

    • Any physics or chemistry course with labwork would likewise defeat them, as would one on stellar evolution (which I loved and would highly recommend to an undergrad today).

  • So CAL Snowman

    For genetic engineering I agree that it would be wise to study the genetic differences between the races. No doubt the pathetic blacks have something very different in mind.

  • RisingReich

    White engineers and business men = evil but black ‘social engineers’ and brown AA business hires = good.

    Up is down, black is White, truth is racism.

    All I know is that the ‘present’ is false.

  • JSS

    “I truly believe innovation lies in the crevices of diversity,” she said in a statement. “Making sure that we incorporate diversity in all of our thinking and the way that we see the world will only lead to innovation.”

    What does that even mean? Diversity in all our thinking? Can’t you narcissistic pricks ever leave us alone? What is a diversity crevice? When has innovation come from a crevice? Diversity destroys everything it touches including our language.

    • Max

      I think we can imagine what a “diversity crevice” might be in its most common form.

      • JSS

        Indeed. The former Western World is fast becoming one filthy rotten diversity crevice.

      • The term sounds unsanitary.

    • BillMillerTime

      “We are a student body that is at once diverse in our unity, and unified in our diversity….whatever that means.”

  • Max

    “I truly believe innovation lies in the crevices of diversity,” she said in a statement. “Making sure that we incorporate diversity in all of our thinking and the way that we see the world will only lead to innovation.”

    And of course if a black woman believes it we need no more debate on the issue. Black women are renown for their engineering marvels.

    • Peter Connor

      “Crevices of diversity”–there is real genius in that statement.

  • So CAL Snowman

    How about FORCING liberal arts students to study something valuable like a calculus or physics course? Of course the diversity would howl with rage knowing that they would fail actual college classes.

  • JackKrak

    Why aren’t we forcing Black Studies students to study engineering?

    Oh, wait – I think I know already.

  • Pro_Whitey

    It might be possible to learn some valuable lessons, like if you put elevator stops on every third floor instead of every floor in the high-rise housing project, then the black and brown gangs will congregate on the stairs and shake down anyone who has to use them. Where would they learn that otherwise?

  • Bon, From the Land of Babble

    To become a good engineer or business major, a student must first study the all-important subjects of race and ethnicity hating the White Race and Western Civilization.

    BSU activist Shayla Scales said the proposal was all about creating more diversity.

    ‘I truly believe innovation lies in the crevices of diversity,’ she said in a statement. ‘Making sure that we incorporate diversity in all of our thinking and the way that we see the world will only lead to innovation.’

    How about you fly in the first diversity-engineered aircraft, Shayla?

    Or…how about an engineering course required for all social science majors?

    I would suggest something easy like Partial Differential Equations, Probability and Statistics, Linear and Discrete Math, physics or fluid dyamics.

    I’ll stick with German Engineering, not African or “Diversity” Engineering!!

    • Posing in a lab coat with a beaker full of Pepsi makes this one a “scientard”.

    • sshadow

      “How about you fly in the first diversity-engineered aircraft, Shayla”. That’s cruel Bon. Nome sane. Now, be a good little Marxist and apologize.

  • Rhialto

    I sympathize with the outrage and negativity of the comments, but there might be a positive result.

    Forcing Diversity courses on engineering and bus. ad. majoring White males would give these guys an understanding of what America has become. Many of these young White men are concentrating on the technical subjects, especially now that they must compete with Asian talent. Perhaps these “identity based” courses i.e. anti-White male propaganda, would provide some needed enlightenment for these guys.

    Just a thought!

  • JohnEngelman

    Engineering and business majors who want to study race and ethnicity can. I doubt most of those majors want to study those courses. For them it is an irritating distraction and an unnecessary expense.

    • rightrightright

      What happens to a White engineering student who while forced to attend one of these silly stuff events, snores and falls off his chair? What happens if he breaks his nose when he hits the parquet? Can he sue for becoming so bored against his will that he self-harmed?

  • negrolocaust

    at johns hopkins university undergraduates are required to take at least one class in multiculturalism or they cannot graduate. the classes are taught by angry, bitter minorities or GLBTG ETC and aggressively trash white people, culture, and history. it is an experience that you will never forget.

    • Malgus

      I went back to University after I left the military. Figured on getting a degree in Mechanical Engineering.

      I had to suffer through some mandated nonsense called “Peoples and cultures of the Non-Western World”. They should have been honest with folks and just called it “Hating Whitey 101”. I was the oldest guy in the room, late 30’s. I figured “Why not?” and made it my mission in life to disprove or challenge almost every single anti-white point made.

      You know that unwritten rule that says “Thou shalt not embarass thy Professor in front of everyone”? Yeah, I sorta went out of my way to ignore that rule. Several times, I had vocal supporters amongst the rank and file youngsters, suspicious that they were being fed a line of excrement…

      The Professor, I’m sure, ended up hating my guts after a couple weeks… I passed (barely) with a C. Which I’m also sure was payback for challenging a High Priest of Liberalism on his own turf… but that’s okay. I’m just happy I saved a few.

      • DaveMed

        Ah, you make me wish I could go back in time and wage similar battles.

        • Malgus

          It’s good fun, innit? 🙂

          I think it’s hilarious how flustered these tenured goons get when challenged. They’re so used to having the young write down everything they say and treat it all as Holy Writ. When you step up and speak the truth, challenge them squarely right in front of God and everyone, they sometimes just don’t know what to do.

          I remember once, I was eating lunch with some friends. Some black female came up and told us she was taking suggestions for films the “Diversity Center” can show for free…

          With a straight face, I told her “Anything by Leni Riefenstahl”.


          “Leni Riefenstahl. L-E-N-I…”

          I wish I could have seen that time bomb go off… I still smile about it to this day…

          • DaveMed

            Haha! I doubt she checked up on it, but it would have been quite the shock.

          • We have a copy of “Triumph of the Will” here at home.

      • TXCriollo

        I did that a few times in college, it was always funny when the prof had no answers. Thats when i would go on a rant on how anti racism is anti white

        • Malgus

          Outstanding! I’m a decade past my last University days, but it does my heart good to know that there are others who have done the same. Sticking your thumb in their eye is worth it – no matter the penalty, sometimes you just have to speak up. It’s the right thing to do.

          I was fortunate in my Prof’s choice of subjects – Haiti. He would drone on about how the West had an “obligation” to assist them.

          I asked him straight up how he could justify that since the black Haitians genocided every white man, woman, child and infant on the island.

          There were actually audible gasps. I looked over at them… the rank and file youngsters had no idea. None.

          I said “No, really. They did. Every last white in Haiti. Except the few white females who agreed to have mixed kids and breed themselves out of existence. Ask him (thumbing towards the Professor). 1804, wasn’t it?”

          He just stared daggers at me and finally said “That.. .ahh… was a long time ago.”

          I’m honestly surprised that he gave me a C. I guess he couldn’t legally fail me since my test scores were all A’s and B’s… I wasn’t going to contest the C…. I did what I set out to do.

          • GeneticsareDestiny

            “There were actually audible gasps. I looked over at them… the rank and file youngsters had no idea. None.”

            It’s incredible how much young white people nowadays don’t know about the reality of diversity. This should be common knowledge.

      • benvad

        At least be honest with the title
        “Hating Whitey 101” HW101.

        The can get that black genius from the tv show Room 222 to teach it.

  • MBlanc46

    Another great white American institution bites the dust.

  • WR_the_realist

    How would Gauss, Newton, Schrodinger, Maxwell, Tesla, or Riemann ever have gotten anything useful done had they “incorporated diversity in all of their thinking”?

  • Peter Connor

    So, the formerly great UM going down the drain….so sad

  • “BSU activist Shayla Scales: ‘I truly believe innovation lies in the crevices of diversity’”

    Seems that America is already deeply inserted into one of the biggest “crevices of diversity,” but things like this maybe provide more lubricant for an even deeper plunge.

  • Michael Mason

    “Making sure that we incorporate diversity in all of our thinking and the way that we see the world will only lead to innovation.”

    LOL. Civilizations rise and fall according to their racial quality. Ancient Egypt, Sumeria, and even Greece to some extent fell because they decided to intermarry with their slaves.

  • This might take the cake as the dumbest thing I’ve ever read. It genuinely baffles me how any white person could think this makes sense.

    • They don’t, any more than they actually believed Rachel Jeantel had more than a room temperature IQ. But Leftism isn’t about honesty or truth. It revolves around desperately parroting any lie, no matter how outrageous, that supports The Narrative. It’s a religion to them.

      • Her IQ would be room temperature only in Centigrade.

        • benvad

          Even at a scorching hi of 40’C, that would be too much for her to handle

  • IKE

    I’m too old for this bologna . . . .you have to be young to push that crap on people..
    I’d tell them to go fly a kit . . .among other expletives..

  • RexRazor

    A clear example why I will never give one cent to my alma mater. Absolutely reprehensible.

    • I had to be really insulting to the UCSC alumni association before they stopped begging me for money. What I said was basically weaponized Spartacus.

  • DudeWheresMyCountry?

    Innovation lies in the crevices of diversity? Did she just admit that their best ideas might be a toilet dropping? Hilarious!

  • rightrightright

    “Making sure that we incorporate diversity in all of our thinking and the way that we see the world will only lead to innovation.”

    Why? Explain, prove, give examples of such, present statistics. What crevices are these? How does this crevice theory work and where with what results in which disciplines.

    Further, it behoves the Black man to be diverse in his thinking and think like a White man if he wants to be successful in engineering and science.

  • RyanP

    Hilarious. We put a man on the moon with a very non diverse group of scientists and engineers. If only we were more diverse. We could be exploring the Milky Way by now 🙂

    • The engineers were “diverse”, but whites from various ethnic backgrounds, with lots of very smart Germans. NASA now says “Islam is mission-crucial”. If they’re going to say that nonsense, I think they need to be completely de-funded by congress.

  • blight14

    Someone posted on the original article, “how about the ethnic studies majors be required to complete classes in calculus and physics, just for the sake of diversity.”

    -I’m sure that would be a resounding success…….

  • ernie t boomer

    She got what she deserved

  • Brian

    Do. Not. Pay. The. Danegeld.

  • Einsatzgrenadier

    There is an inverse relationship between ethnic diversity and creativity. The more ethnic diversity there is, the less creativity there is, with the most diverse environments practically void of creativity. This can be demonstrated empirically. The most ethnically homogenous societies throughout history, such as Periclean Athens, Florence under the Medici family, and Britain during the 18th and 19th centuries, were always the most creative, whereas multicultural societies tended to inhibit creativity. Multiculturalism is the great enemy of scientific and technological innovation. People spend most of their time fighting each other and segregating themselves along racial and ethnic lines, rather than building or doing anything of value.

    • SFLBIB

      “There is an inverse relationship between ethnic diversity and
      creativity. The more ethnic diversity there is, the less creativity
      there is,…”

      Which is another way of saying, “War is peace, freedom is slavery, ignorance is strength.”

  • Chris

    Hmmmm….We put a man on the moon without one single black involved. Alexander Graham Bell, Thomas Edison, Nikola Tesla, etc. as far as I know, didn’t have any African assistance.

  • Reverend Bacon

    Be careful what you wish for. Most engineers are nice guys, so they tend to want to be tolerant, and liberal. It’s much easier to do when they don’t have to examine it. Just vote straight democratic and get back to doing real work.

    Make them examine it, and they’ll tear it apart. Every last lie, every last false premise, every last leap of faith– everything will lie in wreckage. Engineers know statistics, and they are smart. As Kipling might say about them, “with the hopes that our world was built on, they were utterly out of touch. They denied that the moon was Stilton- they denied she was even Dutch.”

    • Max

      None of the engineers I know (real ones, not EPA or Corps of Engineers gummint types) are anything like what you describe. They are do-it-yourself, self-sufficient types for the most part and want the gov’t to leave them alone. The only exception I can name is one close relative, who was a “software engineer” which doesn’t even count as far as I’m concerned.

  • mobilebay

    Wilbur and Orville must be twirling!

  • I doubt Yakoub did that, but my ex-father turned me into an orc. I am a recovering orc, however. If my ex-father came to our door and asked to see his granddaughter, the only thing we would do is tell him “no”.

  • I don’t think it should be required, either, but I liked those classes. I also liked astronomy classes.

  • I am an Aspy and so is my best friend.