Boehner Sets Immigration Debate, but Polls Show Growing Public Opposition

Neil Munro, Daily Caller, January 17, 2014

GOP leaders are finalizing plans for an open debate on immigration to be held by legislators at their late January closed-door strategy session in Cambridge, Md.

The debate will include a panel of legislators, an outside expert, and an open mic, allowing members to comment on a one-page set of “principles” that likely will be released at the event, according to a person with knowledge of the situation.

The format will put Speaker of the House John Boehner and immigration advocate Rep. Paul Ryan in the driver’s seat. But a new poll that shows increased voter hostility to an amnesty is highlighting the difficulty that they face in trying to satisfy both their November voters and their business donors.

The new Quinnipiac University poll shows that both independent and GOP voters have swung sharply against an immigration amnesty since last May.

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The Quinnipiac poll, released Jan. 8, asked 1,487 registered voters if they would be more or less likely to support legislators who backed an amnesty, which was euphemistically called “a path to citizenship.”

Fifty-two percent of Republicans and 42 percent of independents said they would be less likely to vote for the legislator, even though Quinnipiac did not even tell the respondents the amnesty would apply to at least 11 million illegals.

This opposition has grown by 50 percent since a May 2013 poll by Quinnipiac, which showed that 36 percent of Republicans and 25 percent of independents said they would be less likely to vote for a candidate who supports a “pathway to citizenship.”

The new poll also showed that actual support for legislators who back an amnesty dipped slightly, from 26 percent to 25 percent among independents, and from 15 percent to 13 percent among Republicans.

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The Quinnipiac poll did not ask voters for their views about business’ unpopular demand for additional workers.

Currently, the federal government invites in roughly 1 million immigrants and 650,000 non-agricultural guest workers each year to compete for jobs against American high school and college graduates.

The Senate immigration bill, passed in June, would approve the amnesty, and roughly double annual immigration and the inflow of guest workers. The resulting inflow of foreign workers would far exceed the total of 28 million teenagers in the United States, and likely shift several seats after the 2020 census to Democratic-dominated states. The inflow would also shift more of the nation’s wages away from voters and toward donors, exacerbating the economic inequality that Obama recently called “the defining issue of our time.”

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  • Lewis33

    I hate to say it (as much as they are wrong about many things) but the only thing stopping immigration is Rush, Hannity, etc. When they tell their listeners to call their congress people it stops many of them in their tracks. Lets hope they don’t get bought as well.

    • Oil Can Harry

      Some of the other neocon radio hosts like Michael Savage and Mark Levin have also done the right thing.

      Savage is probably the best on racial issues out of the mainstream hosts.

    • kenfrombayside

      Don’t leave the protesting to the next person. Each and everybody has to fight this vile race replacement plan. Keep the pressure on your reps in congress. Giving 11 – 30 million (nobody knows for sure) criminal lawbreakers legalization pure insanity. Plus, they could sponsor their relatives; that would bring the total up to about 50 million aliens in our midst. Of course, these new citizens will vote for the vile democrats and their socialist giveaways. Most of them will be unskilled, uneducated, low IQ etc. Stop this outrageous bill now. Don’t sit on the sidelines.You are not wasting your time. The American people don’t want this bill. You have to do all you can do to stem the third world assault:
      – Contact your 2 US Senators and rep in congress.
      – after biz hours, leave a message on your DC rep’s voicemail. All US Senators have multiple offices so it would be a good idea to hit all of the. Remember, be civil and don’t threaten
      – go to NUMBERSUSA then go to the take action button. You will be able to send faxes to your 2 US Senators and congressional for free. (I also gave a $50 donation).
      – use Business Reply envelopes to state your opposition to America’s insane immigration policies and the proposed amnesty. Don’t give the parties any money.
      – join an immigration group like FAIR. Strength thru numbers!
      – go to the RNC & DNC sites to email them.
      – Use the media: call a talk radio program; write a letter to your local paper. If the media outlet is liberal, then talk about economic impact of massive third world immigration.
      – text everybody in your cell phone queue now.
      IF YOU DO OR SAY NOTHING, YOU ARE PART OF THE PROBLEM….

      • exlib93

        I signed a petition for sensible immigration laws, and now I am being audited by the IRS.

    • Xerxes22

      I thought Hannity “evolved” on the issue of illegal immigration just like a snake evolves when he sheds his skin.

      • Lewis33

        Yeah, I don’t know about him as I quit listening years ago. Too bad if he has been bought.

      • gregCall

        Whichever way the RNC goes so goes Hannity.

    • bilderbuster

      Keep in mind that they had been silent about it until just a few short years ago with Hannity recently making absurd claims that “Hispanics” are naturally conservatives despite mountains of evidence to the contrary.
      They read their emails & they knew they better change their tune or lose their audience.

    • mobilebay

      If any reader here wants to really know the price of illegal immigration, both financial and in every other way, check out Frosty Wooldridges’s columns in NewsWithViews. This man wrote the book on what illegal immigration is doing to this country.

    • Max Krakah

      The republicans will not make any gains in this election, they will lose ground. They abandoned the people, it’s all over.

  • Druid

    Boehner and the rest of them should understand that if they don’t make “good” laws, they won’t be adhered to. It always comes down to wether or not a law is good law.

  • Greg Thomas

    An “outside expert” = open border hack

    • emiledurk16

      exactly

  • Another recent poll shows that immigration amnesty is only a priority for only 3% of all those polled.

    I think invading Syria had a higher approval rating.

    But there’s another issue: Sure, we have the public consciousness on our side generally, but a lot of people who are with us literally on the issue don’t understand how uber-important the issue is. We may have won the first half of the battle, but the second and most difficult part is convincing people that the issue is the most crucial of all, and that all their other less important hobby horse crank issues should be set aside or not given as much attention.

    • E_Pluribus_Pluribus

      Bravo, QD. Immigration is THE issue. People ought to visit their Congress person’s local offices and let staff know this in the clear terms. The U. S. takes in about eight hundred thousand legal immigrants each year. That is about eight hundred thousand too many under current conditions. A vote for an increase is suicide for the GOP.

  • Jesse James

    They still don’t get it do they? It is not just specific individual Republicans who support amnesty that are in danger of losing massive numbers of voters. We are well past that level of trust in the Republican Party. It is the entire democratic process that we question. The fake two party system that cast the Republicans as the controlled opposition isn’t fooling anybody anymore.

    • sbuffalonative

      They can’t be that dumb to ‘not get it’. They have to know they when given a choice between a pro-amnesty Democrat and a pro-amnesty Republican, Hispanics will overwhelming vote Democrat. These guys are either being bought off or being blackmailed.

      • Who Me?

        Hispanics don’t vote.

      • Sick of it

        Too many people who dig into the workings of the system end up dead. I think there’s more than money involved.

    • MBlanc46

      I think that it’s a bit of an overstatement to refer to the American political system as a democratic process.

  • sbuffalonative

    Treason and or money can be the only answer as to why Republicans are pushing this. They can’t honestly believe they will get any sizable increase in Hispanic Republicans to make a difference in any election.

  • D.B. Cooper

    Don’t you ever, EVER forget what this thing is! He is going to lie to you, and you will oh-so-badly want to believe Boehner, that you will vote for his republican backers yet again.

    • dd121

      I think we’ve all been fooled enough. I’m not voting for any repub this time.

    • bilderbuster

      Speak for yourself.
      This isn’t a Neo-Con page.

  • E_Pluribus_Pluribus

    A talking point with your legislator:

    The Senate “immigration reform” measure, S. 744, would, according to the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office, decrease average wages in America for the next 12 years and increase unemployment for the next seven and lower per capital GNP for the next 25 years.

    SOURCE: “The Economic Impact of S. 744, the Border Security,
    Economic Opportunity, and Immigration Modernization Act,” Congressional Budget
    Office, June 18, 2013:

    • Max

      This would only bolster their resolve to increase immigration because the congress in general works for their globalist owners who are pressing for lower wages.

      • E_Pluribus_Pluribus

        Congress work for themselves not for you or for globalist owners. Working for themselves means getting re-elected. The “globalist owners” don’t vote in significant numbers but they do try to influence the flow of information to those who do vote. Therefore, voter ignorance is their ticket to success with Congress. You can fight voter ignorance or make silly statements on Internet message boards.

        • MBlanc46

          You seem to be ignoring the millions and tens of millions of dollars required to run a House or Senate campaign, and where much of that money comes from.

        • Max

          Your words: “Boehner is under tremendous pressure from CEOs…”.

          And they expect quid pro quo.

  • Whirlwinder

    Boehner is about to lose his seat in the House if he continues to push amnesty.

    • E_Pluribus_Pluribus

      He knows that. But reminders help. Boehner is caught in a vice, tremendous pressure from CEOs and GOP establishment consultants and tremendous pressure from actual voters, many of whom will abandon the GOP if anything approaching amnesty passes.

      • bilderbuster

        It seems like he’s made up his mind when he hired Juan McCain’s amnesty whore.
        We can increase the pressure & at least make him increase his Prozac dosage.

    • WR_the_realist

      Don’t bet on it. Look at how John McCain and Lindsey Graham have clung to their seats election after election, no matter how much they vote against their constituents’ interests. Never underestimate the power of big business and the mass media to lead the voters by the nose.

  • Spartacus

    ….

    • Sick of it

      Here’s a good picture to describe who’s bankrolling the GOP:

    • E_Pluribus_Pluribus

      You’re right, Spartacus. For every Republican Jeff Sessions/Steve King there’s a Democrat . . .

    • My favorite:

  • JohnEngelman

    But a new poll that shows increased voter hostility to an amnesty is highlighting the difficulty that they face in trying to satisfy both their November voters and their business donors.

    – Neil Munro, Daily Caller, January 17, 2014

    That is the Republican dilemma.

    • Max

      Most of the Republicans suffer no dilemma. The “natural Republicans” will keep them in office.

    • Max Krakah

      as usual, keeping up appearances with your silly restating the source, of the very article you are posting a comment on. It is at the top of the page. You should change your name to Rimmer.

  • Who Me?

    If all racially aware Whites refused to vote on any partisan issues and/or candidates this election, what do you think would happen?
    First of all the libs wouldn’t be trying so hard to “Get the vote out” or make the effort to vote themselves. (Or at least maybe only once.)
    Second, without the Messiah on the ballot the blacks would go back to their usual habit of not voting. A lot of them didn’t even bother this last election.
    Third, same for the younger voters–it’s too much trouble.
    Fourth, I don’t know who these people think they are kidding but the Hispanic vote is practically non-existent, even among those who are qualified to do so. All this hoopla about the “Hispanic vote” is total hogwash. Hispanics don’t vote, at least not in the West, Midwest, South, and only a relatively few in the Southwest. Maybe in the upper Northeast you have a sizable Puerto Rican bloc, but as for the rest of them, not so much.
    That leaves a pitiful few voters. If the candidates and the parties were unaware of this boycott of the polls until it occurred it would throw a major monkey wrench into the works and cause a world-wide furor of Biblical proportions.
    It’s a gamble, but it just might cause a shake up that would produce some real politicians that are actually about the majority of the voters.

    • emiledurk16

      Right now I would support (with activism) any program that would turn the tide.

  • D.B. Cooper

    These numbers don’t seem right for some reason. I suspect the percentage of people not supporting amnesty is actually higher, but the GOP doesn’t want us to know that.

  • Evette Coutier

    What can we expect from a man (I use that term loosely) whose daughter married Rasta cat in the hat? We can expect racial sell out.

    • Greg Thomas

      Yes, he failed as a parent and he certainly failed as a politician.

    • TXCriollo

      I saw a picture of him i bet john is proud

  • Druid

    boehner and his ilk are traitors and when we start settling accounts with the blacks/hispanics, we’ll also take care of him and his helpers.

  • bluffcreek1967

    Once again, the Republican leadership out to destroy their majority white base! Once all of Mexico floods our land, they’ll finally learn their lesson (although that’s no guarantee!). But by then it will be too late!

  • scutum

    If any of you still have illusions that the Republicans are going to save us this should be a wake-up call for you. We will never get anything we want from the Republicans, they are a wholly owned subsidiary of the Chamber of Commerce and the corporate fat cats it represents. We will need a viable third party if we ever hope to things around and preserve our liberties.

  • exlib93

    Thanks…is there any way someone can prove this and have the audit stopped? This is the ultimate abuse of power.