TMZ Poll: “African-American or N – – – -?”

Albert Lin, DiversityInc, December 23, 2013

Gossip site TMZ took some comments by music producer/executive Marion “Suge” Knight a step too far by putting up a poll on whether it is preferable to “refer to Black people as” African-Americans or n—-s.

With more than 80,000 votes, the N-word is winning 54 percent to 46 percent.

Predictably, response from the Black community has been outrage.

In an editorial of sorts on its website, Ebony wrote: “We’re done with TMZ and we hope that any self-respecting Black person who ever visited them for gossip or fun or folly or as a guilty pleasure will say the same. There is no coming back, no apology needed, no sensitivity training, nothing.”

Knight told TMZ that certain uses of the N-word are acceptable. He added, “I like [the N-word] better than ‘African-American.’ We’re not from Africa; we’re Black. Even Africans don’t call themselves African—if they’re from Kenya, they say they’re Kenyan.”

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In a separate interview, Public Enemy front man Chuck D told TMZ that he does not believe the N-word can be used as loosely as Knight suggested. “Being called Black in America is the struggle to keep us moving and breathing over bloody water,” he said. “Being a [N-word] without the context of history is like drowning in bloody water, dragging down those yet knowing to swim.”

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  • They actually prefer the n-word?

    Rats! I suppose I’ll have to start calling them something else.

    • Manaphy

      I refer to them as “boy”. It really offends them.

      • Druid

        would kaffir be alright???

      • Katherine McChesney

        I do as well.

      • Brian

        “Trayvon” gets the point across too.

    • Non Humans

      (Looks at Handle)
      .
      I feel it is an accurate label and description.

    • Albert Anastasia

      They prefer it as long as it’s another nigga saying it, but if you’re white, LOOK OUT!!

    • Alucard_the_last

      Simian is the intellectual word for them.

      • Katherine McChesney

        I get a chuckle out of the British word for them. NIG-NOGs

  • MekongDelta69

    Blacks are absolutely obsessed with race…

    • gemjunior

      They have very small minds and limited capacity to CREATE even rudimentary original conversation. Race is a popular topic among all their peers and they can be sure of plenty of backslapping as long as they can speak eloquently (in Ebonics of course) about evil whitey.

    • Charles W.

      Blacks have no choice but to be obsessed with race, until the Whiteman gives the JuJu back that he stole so they can build pyramids and flying carpets again.

      • Justin_Igger

        They are obsessed with the one thing the rest of us were gifted with, and passed them right on by: humanity.

    • Svigor

      Not really. African blacks don’t care much about race, and aren’t particularly racially aware. It’s living in a multiracial society with more competent groups that induces American blacks’ resentment. Growing up surrounded by very different, and much more competent groups will do that every time.

    • Justin_Igger

      To ni66ers, being a ni66er comes first and foremost before ANYTHING else. For example, for Obama, he is a ni66er first, president second. Him being a ni66er is far more important to himself than it is to be president.

  • Erasmus

    Easy. I vote for the latter term.

  • Extropico

    By using n****, they announce to all that they are psychological chattel and always in need of more gibsmedat.

  • Druid

    I don’t give a rat’s behind what they want or don’t want to be called…

    • TheCogitator

      I agree. They are what they are no matter what one calls them.

    • Non Humans

      Its like the saying, “If they werent guilty of all of the crimes and foul behaviors that they are known for, they wouldnt care what anyone called them.”

    • Justin_Igger

      I always refer to them by whatever they wish not to be currently called, to remind them that they don’t get to tell us what to call them.

  • sbuffalonative

    I believe it should be acceptable to us the word n*gg*r if you’re quoting someone else using it.

  • Puggg

    Oh wonderful. It’s TMZ, as in Harvey Levin.

    AmRen Poll:

    “Jewish or K-ke?”

    Don’t think you’ll see that poll on TMZ.

    • Max Krakah

      to be fair, few jews deserve the derogatory term, even if one believes in a conspiracy etc. one has to admit that few of them act the way the derogatory term implies. IT may be a collection of behaviors that very rarely occurs in someone who is not jewish, but that does not mean it is common amongst jews.All blacks, on the other hand, deserve the derogatory term. Anyone who thinks otherwise just has not seen the black in question deal with an aggravation.

      • blight14

        Uh, yeah…….

      • Brian

        Well put. Example: overwhelmingly, most of the top anti-apartheid, communist whites in South Africa were YKW, and yet the state of Israel was pretty friendly to the apartheid regime.

        • Geo1metric

          Why does hypocrisy from politicians surprise anyone? The guiding principle for most people who pursue power is “do what you have to do to get what you want”, or, “by any means necessary”, which might be more familiar to some on this board.

    • blight14

      Priceless! Or you could ask Levin ‘Gay or fa%%ot?’…….

  • bigone4u

    I will never let a “n-word” determine any part of my vocabulary. If I like a word, then I have a right to use that word. No compromise. Who gave them the right to censor my dictionary?
    The “n-words” never ask me if I prefer to be called white, honkey, cracker, or pinkie. The news media is obsessed with whatever blacks want. It’s like blacks are their pets and like dog owners do the media indulge their pets to an insane degree. To hell with the blacks and the news media.

  • Max Krakah

    _____s is the more ACCURATE term!

  • Luca

    TMZ, a Hollywood gossip media outlet, spouting liberal perverted filth and injecting it into the mainstream owned by a gay Jew and I’m supposed to be impressed at anything they have to say? I think not.

  • ncpride

    It’s just so ridiculous they pretend such outrage over that word when we all know they call each other that all the time, and even promote it in their version of ‘music’. The more they play that race card, the more Whites are yawning and rolling their eyes.

  • MLK would literally and factually be proud.

    • Whitetrashgang

      BECAUSE OF RACISM,I like a coon after a big Jigaboo.

    • How did the terms “Mondays” and “Canadians” poll?

      • Alexandra1973

        We’ve always used Canuck. Affectionately. Windsor’s a hop, skip, and a jump across the Detroit River from where I used to live.

      • Irishgirl

        “Monday” is a new one to me. From now on, I’ll call a wilding black “just another manic Monday.”

      • Geo1metric

        The term “Canadians” has been used for “cocoanut heads” for years by certain federal law enforcement agencies.

    • Katherine McChesney

      Both of those make me chuckle.

    • Brian

      Mooncricket is my favorite.

  • Pelagian

    Chuck D, as usual, over-the-top with this metaphors … to the point of incomprehensibility.

    • Kevin W. Cornell

      Absolutely. It’s standard nowadays for semi-literates to be given a platform to mouth platitudinal rubbish as if it was intelligent commentary.

  • dubyasee

    If you plainly spell out N*gg*r, with out the sanitizing asterisks, will AmRen censor your post? This seems to be the case and I am left to wonder, is AmRen under the spell of the magic word, “N*gg*r”? To assign such impact and importance to a simple racial pejorative seems silly to me.

    • Svigor

      What I find most grating about the fetishization of the “word that must not be uttered, yet is uttered all the time by those to whom it refers” is the wider context of the society in which it exists; lefties dip images of Christ in urine and call it “art”; they pervert and abuse every traditional, wholesome aspect of European culture; they make a great show of their pretense that “iconoclasm” and “irreverence” and “transgression” are virtues worthy of emulation. Then they turn around and set up their false gods of “diversity” and “tolerance,” with blacks and the Jewish holocaust as their sacred totems, which must never be mocked. They enforce their rules with all the humorless zeal of the stereotypical Puritan. And we’re supposed to keep mum about this hypocrisy, this perversion of our society.

      • Brian

        I had the weird experience of walking past two blacks talking to each other, and one of them casually referred to some third party as ‘that n*****’. I had no reaction, but the speaker apologized to me, like he felt guilty for saying the thing that they’d tried to get us to stop saying, and he was undermining himself or something.

  • Spartacus

    “Being called Black in America is the struggle to keep us moving and breathing over bloody water,”

    ———————————————————————————————————————

    I can’t wait for the collapse of society. Because I know that, when that happens, maggots like this will have to deal with someone like me, if not with me personally. And then they’ll squeal like the pigs that they are.

  • Charles W.

    I’m still trying to figure out re: the “black struggle” in America–what is it that they’re “struggling” against again? The possibility of losing the enormous windfall first world standard of living that they enjoy by simply living among whites?

    • Terra Magnum Imperium

      Good point, struggling to finish High School I guess.

    • They’re struggling against their own ability to function in a society created by civilized people: a society blacks could never have imagined, let alone created themselves.

    • Geo1metric

      The so-called “struggle” is constantly encouraged by the BGI (black grievance industry); after all, it’s their paycheck. Thank J Jack$on and Al $harpton.

  • John K

    Excellent! That’s what I prefer calling them as well.

    Blacks have a major identity crisis. They’ve been called black and African-American and everything in between. The fact is that if they didn’t act like n—-rs so much, they wouldn’t have to change names so often.

  • IstvanIN

    In my family we avoid the use of the n-word as well as other bad language. As my mother always says it is a dumb man who uses “cusses” because he is unable to express himself any other way. And that is as good a reason as any for us to avoid using it. Blacks use it because they are stupid, course, and classless. Why should we sound like them? Furthermore, it is good to avoid using it because the last thing you want is for your child to blurt it out in the wrong circumstances.

    • Svigor

      I don’t regard the “n-word” as bad language, as such. I use it among family and friends because it is accurate, and only a “bad word” around the idiots who enforce it as such.

      • Justin_Igger

        It is the proper noun to use to describe blacks.

    • Brian

      Foul language should be used like salt: sparingly. Not a lot, but not never. My grandfather was a preacher and I never heard him swear, but he said he did back in the jungles fighting the Japs. I would say that occasion is permissible…

  • Alexandra1973

    I’d be glad to oblige ’em.

  • Max Krakah

    how about sh** Skins?

    • Saggin Gin

      I use that one a lot.

      • Alexandra1973

        I don’t use that particular word, and I’m trying to teach my son not to cuss.

        I think “hoodrats” is good. That’s the term I’m more likely to use.

  • Saggin Gin

    Read this users name backwards.

    • Justin_Igger

      What’s saggin spelled backwards?

  • dave

    Spooks,sambo,boy,boons,hamsters,mutts,savages,monkeys,gorillias,apes,ni99ers,coons,turkeys,baboons,skells, did I miss any.

    • Saggin Gin

      Yes….take another deep breath and spit out some more as if you have tourettes.

      • dave

        Nice looking kid you have,moron.

        • Saggin Gin

          Huh? OH..the avatar. It matches the username to create an injustice to the darkey.

  • Saggin Gin

    As they say, “N…..S earn their name everyday”.

    • Brian

      I remember my dad watching the day’s groidish shenanigans on the nightly news, and saying ‘leave it to a n- to act like one.’

      A joke my grandfather told me: ‘Did you hear about the darkie they found at the bottom of the Chattahoochee? He was wrapped in a hundred pounds of chains. Leave it to a n- to steal more than he can carry.’

      Good times.

  • ViktorNN

    It’s a pretty sneaky and funny way to give regular people (or whoever reads TMZ) a chance to say what they think of blacks. Looks like polls are a good way to get around the PC speech police.

    The only downside is that blacks who hate white people and their white liberal b*tches will moan and whine about how this is evidence that we don’t live in a post-racial society and so on and so forth. I think it’s worth it though, for the laughs.

  • I have NEVER used the term “African-American” to refer to a native born black and never will. You see I am far more of an African-American than they will ever be as I was born on the African continent.

    • robinbishop34

      Honest to God I once heard a reporter on television refer to someone as an African-American African.

    • Svigor

      “African-American” is to blacks as “Reverend Doctor” is to MLK and his ilk.

    • Alexandra1973

      The way I see it, you’re either an African or an American.

      A white African such as yourself, though, can easily become a white American (which you indicate you are). Black Africans…not so much.

    • Rick Brooks

      It’s mostly white liberals along with a few elite blacks who insist on substituting the perfectly decent monosyllabic word “black” for “African-American.” The term “African-American” isn’t even geographically logical since it’s only used to denote persons whose ancestors are from sub-Saharan Africa, not those north of it.

  • PvtCharlieSlate

    In scientific terms: Zinjanthropus Malus Ignoramus.

    • I’ve been calling them Bongopithicus oogabooga for some years. As an aside, only the taxonomical genus name is capitalized, hence Vulpes lagopus lagopus or Homo sapiens ferox.

      • PvtCharlieSlate

        Oops & thanks.

      • Katherine McChesney

        ‘Bongopithicus oogabooga’

        I like THAT a LOT. It is hilarious.

        • King of My Castle

          It’s racist, actually, which is fine here on Amren.

  • King of My Castle

    I work with a black man from Cameroon, and sometimes people refer to him as African-American so as not to offend him! Idiot white liberals. 😉

    • Brian

      I once had a Nigerian coworker and someone called him ‘AA’, and he was ticked. He was not fond of the American blacks, but admired the English.

    • Geo1metric

      Have you ever asked him why he moved to a majority White country?

      • King of My Castle

        He didn’t. He moved to Japan, where I, too, live. 🙂

  • Eddie Lutz

    I like it when they call themselves nigga. It amuses me in a way I’m sure they don’t intend.

    • When I was in the Denver County Jail in 2001, there was a young black guy who was really hard-timing it, so I taught him to play chess. When he called me “nigga”, we both paused and started laughing. We were all n-words there. That said, us old-timers try to look out for the kids.

      • Jack Burton

        As long as you’re not a bitch nigga then you’re good.

    • robinbishop34

      I say we let them call themselves by crass names while we stay above that.

      • Earl Turner

        I just call them mondays. Everyone hates mondays and the various comment sections on news sites can’t really filter out the word monday.

  • Matthew Schmidt

    Here is a lesson in Ebonics. Whenever the ending of a word is replaced with an -a, the meaning of the word is changed. In this case, Nigga simply means “an individual” or “dude” In the case of the Travon Martin case Cracka means “vigilante” or “a civilian who patrols an area and watches for suspicious activity as if he was a cop”

  • Ethnic slurs don’t bother me, either. The English language has plenty for the Scots, Irish and Welsh. I’ve also been called a “quarter-breed blanket-head”, but since my Amerind ancestry is eastern woodlands, I guess I’m not a “prairie-n-word”.

  • Earl Turner

    Well at least they know what they are.

    • Alexandra1973

      We’re just not supposed to acknowledge it.

      • Justin_Igger

        And yet we must.

  • Alucard_the_last

    I know a better word.

    • Katherine McChesney

      And?

  • Brian

    I usually say ‘les noirs’ or ‘chitlins’.

    • Geo1metric

      I generally don’t engage in “name-calling”, but “cocoanut head” is my preferred name. The resemblance is uncanny.

      • Justin_Igger

        Just call them apes. The best part is, they don’t quite yet get it!

  • Katherine McChesney

    I’ve never understood the origin of “K*ke”.

  • The Verdict of History

    Perfectly put.

  • Brian

    building the largest free standing structure in the ancient world
    ====
    If you’re referring to the Great Pyramid of Giza, that was built by Egyptian farmers about 1200 years before the putative Exodus.

    • Geo1metric

      You’re correct. Recent archeological findings have pretty much proven that; the villages the workers lived in strongly implies “free Egyptian” laborers built “the largest free-standing structure”.

      Reminds me of how so many “stories” in the Old Testament were taken from much older stories extant in that part of the world for example, the Legend of Gilgamesh, Isis and Osiris, but I could go on.

      • Brian

        Mordecai and Esther sound suspiciously like Marduk and Ishtar, chief deities of Babylonia.

  • MBlanc46

    It’s a Southernism, like much in black speech. Like sugah for sugar. It’s just the way they pronounce the word.

  • Jack Burton

    That’s nonsense, they learned the non-rhotic style of speech from White Southerners who inherited it from certain English dialects.

    Blacks are stupid, they like to insult each other and use profanity constantly. That doesn’t mean that they are actually new words just because they drop the r.

    • Matthew Schmidt

      I only present the dropping of the -er and replacing it with an -a as a grammatical rule, so whites could understand Ebonics, thus black culture, better. Obviously, they do not have this rule in mind when creating new words. The rule is actually the logical result of black stupidity. Blacks do not have the intelligence nor creativity to properly make new words, so they have to steal southern mispronunciations to expand their ebonic vocabulary.

      • Geo1metric

        The vast majority of “southern mispronunciations” are simply the southern “accent” just as northern mispronunciations are part of the northern accent. The most accurate English is spoken by upper-middle and upper class Irish and English according to the BBC.

        • Jack Burton

          It’s quite funny that often times Brits have the worst English pronunciations of all. Many British dialects need subtitles or you can’t understand them.

          The American media typically falsely depicts a universal British accent, when in reality there are many accents and dialects in Britain.

      • Jack Burton

        Wrong on all counts, stop spreading misinformation.

  • Geo1metric

    I seriously doubt there are “ebonics rules”. After all, ebonics is not a structured “language”. It is simply an attempt to speak English.

    • Jack Burton

      There aren’t. Any such attempt to intellectualize and legitimize Ebonics is liberal, Jewish, black bullshit.

      • Matthew Schmidt

        What makes you think that finding certain patterns in Ebonics is an attempt to intellectualize or legitimize it. The pattern I mentioned above self evidently stupid and another reason to mock Ebonics and blacks. Unless you actually think that dropping the -er and adding an -a is an intelligent way of making new words

        • Jack Burton

          You obviously have a comprehension problem. I’ve already addressed these subjects and then you ask questions as if I’ve never mentioned it.

    • Matthew Schmidt

      It’s actually an Africanized version of American English and another example of how whites and blacks are different from each other and cannot coexist in the same living space.

  • Brian

    Ah, my mistake. I’m sure the 2nd temple was impressive. The 1st one– the archaeological evidence on that one is scanty at best. The descriptions from the Bible were written much later and may involve some ‘vanished golden age’ exaggeration, just like the other description aspects of Solomon’s time. Of course it’s difficult to fully investigate because of the Al-Aqsa mosque on site. Since Jerusalem was built by Canaanite pagans, later conquered by Hebrews, the pagans probably had the earliest temple there. I wonder if the Hebrews knocked it down and built a replacement, or took the existing structure and refurbished/added to it…

  • Justin_Igger

    Why would we call them American? There’s not one single thing about them American. They’re ni66ers.

    • Nobody else here wants to be called some variety of hyphenated-American. Celts, Germans and Slavs here consider themselves American and get on with their lives as “white”. I’m mainly Celtic, but I have a large dose of eastern woodlands Amerind, along with some northwest German. I’m an American without even thinking about it, but I don’t feel the need to attach that label to who I am. Am I white? Not completely. I identify myself as a vegetable gardener, a woodworker, a machinist, a welder and a good husband and father. I’m also an ex-con on the Terrorist Watch List. This doesn’t translate into a quick description, so I go by my own real name.

  • Jack Burton

    Non-rhotic speech among White Southerners has been in decline for a while. Now it is mostly found in the very rural areas and among blacks.

  • Jack Burton

    It’s peculiar that black stupidity is somehow cool. Wearing hats backwards or sideways, which defeats the whole purpose, is cool? Remember the stupid fad of wearing your pants backwards? That didn’t last long. Now their pants are hanging down exposing their underwear. Their retardation knows no bounds.