Southern Discomfort: U.S. Army Seeks Removal of Lee, ‘Stonewall’ Jackson Honors

Rowan Scarborough, Washington Times, December 17, 2013

The U.S. Army War College, which molds future field generals, has begun discussing whether it should remove its portraits of Confederate generals—including those of Robert E. Lee and Thomas “Stonewall” Jackson.

Nestled in rural Pennsylvania on the 500-acre Carlisle Barracks, the war college is conducting an inventory of all its paintings and photographs with an eye for rehanging them in historical themes to tell a particular Army story.

During the inventory, an unidentified official—not the commandant, Maj. Gen. Anthony A. Cucolo III—asked the administration why the college honors two generals who fought against the United States, college spokeswoman Carol Kerr said.

“I do know at least one person has questioned why we would honor individuals who were enemies of the United States Army,” Ms. Kerr said. “There will be a dialogue when we develop the idea of what do we want the hallway to represent.”

She said one faculty member took down the portraits of Lee and Jackson and put them on the floor as part of the inventory process. That gave rise to rumors that the paintings had been removed.

“This person was struck by the fact we have quite a few Confederate images,” she said, adding that the portraits were rehung on a third-floor hallway. “[Lee] was certainly not good for the nation. This is the guy we faced on the battlefield whose entire purpose in life was to destroy the nation as it was then conceived. . . . This is all part of an informed discussion.”

It is the kind of historical cleansing that could spark an Army-wide debate: Lee’s portrait adorns the walls of other military installations and government buildings.

Two portraits of Lee are on display at the U.S. Military Academy at West Point, N.Y.: In the Cadet Mess Hall is a painting of Lee when he was superintendent as an Army captain. A portrait of Lee in full Confederate regalia hangs on the second floor of Jefferson Hall, the campus library.

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In 1975, Congress enacted a joint resolution reinstating Lee’s U.S. citizenship in what could be considered a final act to heal Civil War wounds. The resolution praised Lee’s character and his work to reunify the nation. It noted that six months after surrendering to Gen. Ulysses S. Grant, Lee swore allegiance to the Constitution and to the Union.

“This entire nation has long recognized the outstanding virtues of courage, patriotism and selfless devotion to duty of General R.E. Lee,” the joint resolution stated.

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  • dubyasee

    They are anxiously awaiting the advent of a transgendered, Black, Jewish, hemophiliac, pedophile who also happens to be a General in the Department of Homeland Security.

    • smedley

      Colin Powell is close.

      • D.B. Cooper

        I have the solution. Let’s hang up a portrait of Surgeon General Jocelyn Elders instead.

        • Katherine McChesney

          Is that a Michael Jackson jacket she’s wearing?

          • Strike_Team

            Along with a James Brown wig.

          • Lagerstrom

            She forgot to put on the mirrored sunglasses!

        • IstvanIN

          Wasn’t she the masturbation teacher?

  • haroldcrews

    I’m of two minds on this push to remove Lee and Jackson. The obvious response is that it is insulting. That if the greatest of Southerners are considered unfit for the US military then no Southerner belongs any where near the US military. The other part of me believes that by all means remove the images of Lee and Jackson from the US military since no doubt they would not wish to be connected in any way to such an evil and tyrannical institution as the US military as it exists today.

    It is impossible to be an ‘American’ and a Southerner any more than it is to be an ‘American’ and a Christian. Simple self-respect demands that I be a Southerner and a Christian.

    • smedley

      Just wait, they will remove every general who fought with a segregated army so that Grant, Sherman, Pershing, Eisenhower, Marshall, Patton, MacArthur will be flushed down the memory hole so that they can put up giant pictures of Colin Powell.

      • sbuffalonative

        The Purge has only just begun. First it will be the obvious ‘racists’. After that, it will be people who lived through the same period but who will be vilified for not having done enough to stand up to ‘hate’. They will be replaced by tangential figures (mostly blacks) who will be said to have suffered.

      • Sick of it

        Don’t worry, Eisenhower will never be removed.

        • dave

          For obvious reasons.

    • Homo_Occidentalis

      It’s not you who are “un-American”, believe me. It’s them.

  • bigone4u

    The ethnic cleansing of everything that is white and Christian is picking up steam, but there’s going to be pushback on this one. Our enemies constantly probe to see what they can get away with. Since MLK is a proven Communist, our pushback should be to get his sorry name removed from streets, etc. After all, Lee and Jackson were fighting for the original conception of the US, while MLK was fighting to turn the US into the USSR. MLK is the real traitor.

    • Tarczan

      I hope we keep the MLK named streets. It provides us with an easy way to know where not to go.

      • bigone4u

        So would names like Sha’niqua Drive and Shitavious Blvd.

      • Katherine McChesney

        Also Rosa Parks Blvd.

      • Sick of it

        The hoodies are usually a dead giveaway.

      • SFLBIB

        There was a small town not long ago that was considering re-naming a street after MLK. Some residents objected because they claimed the new name would drive down property values.

  • Chip Carver

    This is a warmup, practice, for the day when the folks in charge can remove all white males from the portraits on the walls.

    • Young Werther

      But, you are so right.

  • dd121

    They may have been on the losing side but they were the greatest military minds of their generation. Someday these Stalinists will have to be stopped.

    • SFLBIB

      That’s one reason why re-naming sports mascots has got to be stopped before it moves on to human being heroes.

  • baldowl

    How long until the anti-racists are demanding the destruction of the Stone Mountain Memorial? When do we finally say, “Keep your filthy black hands off our history?”

    • They have already destroyed it, more like disgraced it, in a way.

      I don’t know if this still happens, but there used to be almost nightly laser shows on the carved side of the mountain. Throngs of Atlanta black kids were cheering it on. Now, would there ever be nightly laser shows on a Martin Luther King statue? Hades no.

    • mobilebay

      Hope not, baldowl. My husband’s family bought Stone Mountain in the late 1800s. Later they deeded it out for a suitable monument. Lots of problems, but eventually it was completed. Interesting story. The big winner of the recent lottery was from Stone Mountain and is, I believe, black.

    • Terra Magnum Imperium

      Nice…

  • rowingfool

    Wow!

    This is so like the revision of history undertaken by the Soviets in which Generals and Party members whose policies had fallen into disfavor were “erased” from public memory by banishment.

    Never forget my friends, the protagonist’s job in Brave New World was to continuously rewrite archived newspaper and magazine articles to reflect the current status of alliances and political preferences. That’s what controlling the past and therefore etc….was all about.

    The former Masters of the Soviet Union, transplanted here as a consequence of the Second World War, are up to their old tricks.

    • wilburnsprayberry

      Think you mean 1984, not BNW.

      • rowingfool

        Right.

    • RisingReich

      There is no question, we fought the wrong enemy in WWII.

      • dave

        Patton later said that.

        • Bon, From the Land of Babble

          He did indeed.

          “General Patton’s Warning”

          “They (American command) have utterly lost the Anglo-Saxon conception of justice and feel that a man can be kicked out because somebody else says he is a Nazi. They were evidently quite shocked when I told them I would kick nobody out without the successful proof of guilt before a court of law .

          …And in a letter of the same date to his wife: ‘I will probably be in the headlines before you get this, as the press is trying to quote me as being more interested in restoring order in Germany than in catching Nazis. I can’t tell them the truth that unless we restore Germany we will insure that communism takes America.’ Eisenhower responded immediately to the press outcry against Patton and made the decision to relieve him of his duties as military governor and ‘kick him upstairs’ as the commander of the Fifteenth Army…’I would like it much better than being a sort of executioner to the best race in Europe.'”

          rense//com/general85/pats//htm

    • Bon, From the Land of Babble

      And, it will accelerate as the White percentage of the population drops.

      As a South African once told me: The beginning of the end is when they start changing the names of your streets.

  • John Smith

    To all the dimwitted, self hating, guilt stricken whites (aka useful idiots) out there that are desperate for the adulation of non-whites – This will NEVER end!

    That Jewish professor from Harvard was spot on about (I’m paraphrasing) relentlessly bashing and discrediting dead whites until the white race is completely destroyed, not simply deconstructed.

    They have been steadily gnawing away at all the roots of our foundations for decades.

    No amount of appeasement or butt kissing will satisfy them until every college, high school, statue, building, etc has been renamed after MLK, Ceasar Chavez and Mandela.

    This will NEVER end!

  • Druid

    Interesting, When I was at Khe Sanh in Vietnam, there were a whole bunch of Southern guys. They were good guys to have on your side. No one said a word about their flying the Stars and Bars everywhere at that beleagered base in 1968.

    • LeGrandDerangement

      When I was in service during that war, I had the same experience; my best friends were Southerners, they always stood by you.

      • Young Werther

        I recall reading that more Southerners fought and died in Vietnam than any other region (certainly that is what one of my history profs insisted) …they tend to be more patriotic and poorer.

    • Young Werther

      It was not considered the politically correct thing to do at the time. Oddly it became very fashionable to do openly beginning in the early to mid 1990s. AmRen noted it.

  • APaige

    They do have a point. Both generals should be admired for their military skill, but they did fight against the U.S Army.

    • WR_the_realist

      The U.S. Army fights for whatever the federal politicians tell it to fight for. It’s hard for me to find fault with anybody who fights the federal government.

    • Young Werther

      A very simplistic view…

  • Dave4088

    Regardless of the cover story put forth for their possible removal, this amounts to cultural cleansing by the cultural Marxists. In their view the military greatness of those two men is tarnished by the fact that they fought for a slave owning nation and were slave owners themselves which is anathema to cultural Marxism and the anti-whites.

    I wouldn’t be surprised if the paintings are replaced with Santa Ana and Shaka Zulu.

    • Young Werther

      In total agreement…Who said the Radical Republicans of the North didn’t read Karl Marx…of course they did.

    • Young Werther

      More realistically, with portraits of Fredrick Douglass, Thaddius Stephens, and John Brown…

  • Zaporizhian Sich

    Yet more proof why whites should not wear the uniform for a government, ruling elite and increasingly a nation that hates and despises them. That seeks to dispossess them oft their land, culture, and heritage. That seeks ultimately to exterminate them.

    • dave

      Is that Yagoda or Kaganovich? Now we have their descendants running and destroying this Country

      • smedley

        Trotsky.

        • dave

          OH, Bronshtein

      • Mergatroyd

        It is Trotsky who should have had a bullet put in his head when the Czar had the chance.

    • Almighty_Shekel

      Oh vey. Why do you want to holocaust my people all over again?

    • RisingReich

      Where did you get that picture? I’ve been trying to collect WWII posters. Not sure this one IS WWII but follows along the same lines.

      • Bon, From the Land of Babble

        The poster refers to the Russian Revolution.

        I think you’ll find what you are looking for right here:

        www//tomatobubble//com/id352//html

        Enjoy.

        Bon

  • Spartacus

    Can the South rise again soon ? Like, yesterday ?

    • Katherine McChesney

      The street I lived on in York, Alabama where I graduated high school in the 60’s looks like a small Detroit. Vacant lots, run down houses and the downtown area has a wig shop, a grocery store and a ‘department store’ all owned by blacks. The entire town is run by blacks. Whites have moved to a smaller town ten miles away.

  • Two questions:

    Can anyone find a pic or bio for spokeswoman Carol Kerr?

    Why is an Ambassador appointed to Army War College? How long has this been going on?
    www(dot)carlisle(dot)army(dot)mil/usawc/about/ambassador(dot)cfm

  • The Army War College announced today that its students, high ranking officers all, will no longer learn about the aggressive and successful tactics of Confederate generals Lee and Jackson.

    Instead, diversity being our greatest strength, and in honor of the movie “The Color Purple”, students will be exposed to the Art Of Color War beginning with the following 50-year-old joke about the son of Philip of Macedon …

    Q: What’s purple and concord the world?

    A: Alexander the Grape

    In other news, Black History Month is being expanded to Black History Year, which will repeat annually.

  • Sick of it

    Southerners, why do you continue to fight for a military that hates you? Let them send a bunch of big city liberals to third world hellholes…no need wasting your time or losing your life for the likes of them.

    • A Freespeechzone

      Make NO mistake that the strategy is to create an army…remember “obama’s civilian army” he spoke of in 2008?

      Removing anyone who does not support Obama’s mindset will leave a military of gays, negroes, minorities and others that would think nothing at shooting and killing American citizens who defy tyranny.

      Look at the fact that at least 9 high ranking General officers were fired by Obama over the last year or so….

      • Mergatroyd

        I see your point.

        Let’s see how blacks, browns and other non-whites handle high tech military equipment. What are they going to do when it breaks down? Let’s see how blacks and Mexicans take orders from openly gay commanders.
        It’s going to be a JOKE.

        • Blackwater/Xe types will probably end up doing the non photo opportunity dirty stuff, if they’re not already.

          • Zaporizhian Sich

            It is a fact they are doing that, they were involved in the debacle and fiasco called New Orleans after hurricane Katrina. They raided people’s homes, shot people and acted like Red Army invaders towards the Ukrainians and everyone else all the way to Germany.

  • I have an idea ….

    The Army War College should auction off all the portraits. Let the people vote with money.
    I guarantee that General Robert E. Lee and Stonewall Jackson’s portraits will go for a higher price than any northern General’s portrait.

  • Anglo

    Farewell Address to the Troops, Headquarters Army of Northern Virginia, April 10, 1865:
    After four years of arduous service marked by unsurpassed courage and fortitude the Army of Northern Virginia has been compelled to yield to overwhelming numbers and resources.
    I need not tell the survivors of so many hard fought battles, who have remained steadfast to the last, that I have consented to this result from no distrust of them. But feeling that valor and devotion could accomplish nothing that could compensate for the loss that would have accompanied the continuance of the contest, I determined to avoid the useless sacrifice of those whose past services have endeared them to their country.
    By the terms of the agreement Officers and men can return to their homes and remain there until exchanged. You will take with you the satisfaction that proceeds from the consciousness of duty faithfully performed and I earnestly pray that a merciful God will extend to you his blessing and protection.

    With an unceasing admiration of your constancy and devotion to your country and a grateful remembrance of your kind and generous consideration of myself, I bid you all an affectionate farewell.
    R. E. Lee
    General

    • LeGrandDerangement

      Compare the eloquence of this leader with the spewings of our “leaders” today.

  • gemjunior

    This is sick, and it’s scary. This is so much more dangerous than people realize, it’s a soviet style beginning of a totally different system of government and it will no longer be hidden by jingoism or even mere pretense that we are living in a free country. It’s going to be way worse than anything, especially if we’re “governed” by people with no real understanding of future time orientation and an inability to plan, let alone control their impulses.

  • Zaporizhian Sich

    This is clearly part of the demonization ahead of the coming genocide against us. Whites should at this point refuse to serve in a military for a government, ruling elite and increasingly a populace that hates and despises them.

  • Pro_Whitey

    Not that I’m any great warrior to talk, but does anyone think that any of the officers involved in this decision is one-tenth the officer and man that Robert E. Lee was? And I write that as a Northerner born and bred who has no particular love for the South. And the same goes for Jackson. Both men of tremendous rectitude, self-control, and military genius. And Lee and Jackson were never trying to destroy the country, they were defending their home state.
    Hell, how about a compromise? If they have a portrait of Napoleon anywhere, then Lee and Jackson portraits are justified in that their tactics should still be studied. Also, by the way, both served the U.S. Army ably in peace time and especially during the Mexican-American War. They actually fought to build up the U.S.
    I have always hated Marxists and Marxism, but this one really gets under my skin.

  • Fr. John+

    This is utter BULLSHEVISM, as they say. Unless and until Whites start active conflict, the New Multicultural Soviet will destroy our history, just as they ‘wiped out’ the Christian nature of Russia, under the Communists… and by the hands of the same Ethnics, might I add!

  • MartelC

    The academies and officer corps have been quietly purging white officers for years now, even Bush did this – Amren posted an article by a professor @ Annapolis who revealed that even orientals were being let in with 300 SAT scores over whites….

    There can only be ONE reason for this – throughout history, whenever the government is ready to turn on the people they purge the officer corps of anyone they suspect might be loyal to the host population.

  • mobilebay

    This country is getting more insane by the day. Lee and Jackson were a part of our history. Why would anyone want to be so PC as to change the facts? By the time today’s elementary school children are in high school or college, history will be competely rewritten. I won’t be surprised if the kids will be taught that Mexicans were on the Mayflower, all nice and legal.

  • Beetlejuice

    They’re not AWOL. They’re in bed with the Democrats.

  • Young Werther

    When I was teaching in an all black city school system I was required to teach Alabama History. We studied the so called Civil War. Each year my students loved copying the Confederate Battle Flag, so we taped them onto the window panes every year…ha ha ha what a dramatic sight those red crosses made when lit up at night. What’s more, a big black man came into my classroom one day from *The Board* and demanded to know why I had the flag of the enemy in my class room…but he was pointing at nothing other than the *American Flag* !! It was great… Guess who taught the blackfolk to be inconsolable and unrelenting victims?

    • Young Werther

      But, seriously…this has been going on for a long time…its hard core focus began outwardly in the early 1990s. One goal is to devalue the experience of slaves and their living descendants thus taking the wind out of the continued reparations movement (affirmative action and so forth), another reason is to eventually write out the fact that America ever had a *civil war*….I first read a worthy account of this in an AmRem article…though not quite stated in this manner, it was among a number of my interpretations. I suppose I was eternally won over by a number of its *positions*…a blessing and a curse.

      • SFLBIB

        You must be young. It’s been going on since 1960.

        • Young Werther

          Actually, and in point of fact, the attempt to discredit and destroy the South began in earnest in the early 1800s, by the time of the Civil War, Thad Stephens and others in the Radical Republican Congress in the North were advocating mass slaughter of southerners by the slaves, then demanding it of the Union Army, then insisting upon it during Federal Occupation. Black folk never did cotton up to that notion…then came another revolution; get rid of regionality first, nationality next for the new-world global egalitarian democratic utopia. Obama World, for better or worse.

        • Young Werther

          You will note that I said the hard core overt attempt to (OPENLY) discredit the South and certainly any of its icons…

          • SFLBIB

            Lawrence Auster use to write for AR, and he had some good observations, among them,

            “What started as a demand for basic civil
            rights has mutated into a Leftist demand to overturn the whole society, along with its traditions and norms, its standards and laws, its history and heroes.”

            …and …

            “The indispensable condition of any conservative or traditionalist movement, as well as of our personal spiritual survival, is that we say NO to the prevailing values of the liberal order and that we keep saying NO.”

            Sadly, he passed away last April.

          • Young Werther

            Yes, thank you…and the observations of *the hostile elite*…

  • Bill

    It is called the ‘Civil War’. American vs. American. What part of that doesn’t Ms. Kerr get?

  • LeGrandDerangement

    I read somewhere that Dubya’s accent was contrived; I know that the elder Bushes hail from New England.

  • Anna Tree

    Check Publuis post below where he quotes a citizen letter to Eisenhower asking why the president has a painting of Lee in his office at the White House and why he respect the General Lee and the answer of Eisenhower.

  • Brian

    Yeah, yeah. And the Founding Fathers weren’t loyal to England either. My loyalty to the U.S.S.A (occupied territory) is hanging by a thread right now. I just can’t feel the same as I did 20 or 30 years ago. But perhaps someday…