FBI Warns About Americans Joining Islamic Fighters in Syria

Emery P. Dalesio, Christian Science Monitor, November 30, 2013

Federal officials say Americans are joining the bloody civil war in Syria, raising the chances they could become radicalized by Al Qaeda-linked militant groups and return to the U.S. as battle-hardened security risks.

The State Department says it has no estimates of how many Americans have taken up weapons to fight military units loyal to Syrian President Bashar Assad in the 3-year-old war that has killed more than 100,000 people. Other estimates—from an arm of the British defense consultant IHS Jane’s and from experts at a nonprofit think tank in London—put the number of Americans at a couple dozen. The IHS group says Al Qaeds-linked fighters number about 15,000, with total anti-Assad force at 100,000 or more.

This year, at least three Americans have been charged with planning to fight beside Jabhat al-Nusrah—a radical Islamic organization that the U.S. considers a foreign terrorist group—against Assad. The most recent case involves a Pakistan-born North Carolina man arrested on his way to Lebanon.

At a Senate homeland security committee hearing this month, Sen. Thomas Carper, D-Del., said: “We know that American citizens as well as Canadian and European nationals have taken up arms in Syria, in Yemen and in Somalia. The threat that these individuals could return home to carry out attacks is real and troubling.”

The hearing came about two weeks after the FBI and other officers arrested Basit Sheikh, 29, at the Raleigh-Durham International Airport on charges he was on his way to join Jabhat al-Nusrah. Sheikh, a legal resident of the United States, had lived quietly, without a criminal record, in a Raleigh suburb for five years before his Nov. 2 arrest. A similar arrest came in April in Chicago. And in September, authorities in Virginia released an Army veteran accused of fighting alongside the group after a secret plea deal.

In August, outgoing FBI Director Robert Mueller told ABC News that he was concerned about Americans fighting in Syria, specifically “the associations they will make and, secondly, the expertise they will develop, and whether or not they will utilize those associations, utilize that expertise, to undertake an attack on the homeland.”

Current FBI Director James Comey said this month that he worried about Syria becoming a repeat of Afghanistan in the 1980s, after the Soviet invasion, with foreign fighters attracted there to train. {snip}


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  • “Americans”

    Yeah, they’re about as “American” as the “Americans” in Whackistan that our drone strikes are killing.

    Here’s the curious thing, though. Just a few months ago, we were told we had to deploy our official resources openly and officially on behalf of these Syrian AQ-linked rebels. Now we’re worried that some of “our” people are going to fight for them off label?

    • NeanderthalDNA

      You know, after the article on Chinese anchor baby moms flying here to drop anchor I think this whole “citizenship by birth” deal really needs to be re-evaluated. When this rule was made, and for a very long time, it was fine. Took months to cross the Atlantic or Pacific. The founding fathers really had no idea one day such a journey would take a few hours. This situation was NOT their intention.

      Calling these Muslim aliens “American” just shows how hollow and meaningless “American” is today. It evokes the whole deal where they count Hispanics as White for crime stats, or bemoan “our” educational failures when only certain groups are the problem.

      • The relevant sentence of the 14th:

        All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside

        I know there are court decisions that state differently, but I read that literally, and read the construction behind it, to mean that birthright citizenship has two conditions: One, born in American territory, and two, born under American jurisdiction. That leaves out those born of illegal aliens or even legal aliens on American territory.

        • Pro_Whitey

          And Congress should be exercising its prerogative under Section 5 of the 14th amendment to make the rules clear. Classic, how Congress is willing to dictate how many gallons per flush your toilet can have, but neglects basic questions it is supposed to settle.

  • Puggg

    You mean they’re leaving America?


    Just don’t let them come back.

  • DaveMed

    So… if Syria is anywhere on the passport, border control should ensure that it’s a one-way ticket.


    • Jackryanvb

      Yes there is a problem.

      The USA doesn’t have border control. Islamic terrorists, Zeta drug cartel gangs come and goes as they want. US troops control the North/South Korean border, not US borders.

      Liberals and Libertarian loons like Rand Paul demand open US borders and the free movement of people in to the US including radical Islamists.

  • The notion that someone would join Al Qaida in Syria and only then “become radicalized” is one of the more absurd notions our government is alleging here. Anyone who would join Al Qaida *already is* radicalized.

    • “Anyone who would join Al Qaida *already is* radicalized.”


      And has renounced his US citizenship, or at least that’s the way these things were looked at when I was a kid so long ago.

      • Sick of it

        When I was a kid, not that long ago, we would consider such people guilty of treason. Of course today we have a President who routinely commits treason and gets applauded for it.

        • As I see it, Obama’s foreign policy can be summarized as, Make the world safe for Radical Islam.

  • Pro_Whitey

    I may not have agreed with what Christopher Stevens and his crew were doing in Benghazi, but on principle I want Americans defended when under attack, especially if they are acting as representatives of the U.S. In the case of these scumbuckets, they are not Americans, and I have no problem with Assad lining up and shooting any he captures.

    • NeanderthalDNA

      Assad is the best suited to rule that place. Alawite Muslim, which is considered by Al Qaida types heretical, he is far and away the best option for Syrian Christians and our meddling on behalf of either our direct enemies (Muslim fundamentalists) or the toothless secular democracy pretending crowd who will become victims of an Assad collapse as well, will result in nothing but strife and bloody mischief. Especially for Syria’s Christians.

      Viva Assad!

      • My only complaint is that Assad had apparently become an Iranian lapdog. I say “apparently” because it is by no means obvious that Assad is really in charge there. The whole concept of a hereditary dictatorship seems quite peculiar to me, and I wouldn’t be very suprised if the Syrian army had not been calling the shots all along (a quick look at Egypt is quite informative as to how this sort of thing works). Additionally, one just doesn’t expect a British-trained opthamologist to end up as a bloodthirsty dictator.

        • NeanderthalDNA

          “Additionally, one just doesn’t expect a British-trained opthamologist like Bashar al-Assad to end up as a bloodthirsty dictator.”

          Frederick the Great of Prussia was a closeted homosexual who, given his druthers, would have run off with his gay lover and become a florist, but his old man caught them, executed the lover, and whipped ol’ fruity Freddy into shape. Ended up being one of the greatest military geniuses of all time, his most bitter enemies ironically two of the most powerful females of the age, Catherine of Russia and Maria Therese of Austria.

          Sorry bout the windy history lesson you probably already know, but being a British trained opthamologist is probably as good a bloodthirsty dictator training as there is.

          The Shiite Iranians are Assad buddies out of realpolitik reasons alone. Although the Ayatollahs don’t REALLY think Syrian Alawites are real Muslims…they need an ally in the Sunni Arab Middle East and so they pragmatically look the other way in regard to Assad’s Alawite faith. Ironically, like i said, the Alawites, like the Alevis in Turkey, are in many ways kind of like the Methodists of Islam – moderate, tolerant, kind of laid back and pragmatic compared to the mainstream of Islam.

          Viva Assad!

          • captainc


      • Jackryanvb

        Well said. Plus Vladimir Putin supports him. Putin is the best Western leader in over 100 years.

  • Spartacus

    I don’t think “American” means what it used to anymore…

    • NeanderthalDNA

      You are 100% correct sir!

    • “I don’t think “American” means what it used to anymore…”

      Agreed, but it could if secession becomes a goal. The important thing is to cut loose of the civil/race war that is surely going to follow the inevitable economic collapse. I have no idea what you and I disagree on but I do know that we’re in agreement on the need for a secessionist white nation.

      • Jackryanvb

        Check out www dot northwestfront dot org

        Some bright folks are working for secession in the Pacific Northwest.

        • I’m aware of your group. In fact, I’ve been threatened with death by the Covington crowd. (My attorney knows what to do if anything happens to me.)

          I’m a race realist, not a neo-Nazi. You secede your way, Alyeska will do things differently.

          • Jackryanvb

            Sorry to hear that. My take was that this was a broad group/coalition that wanted out of the Washington/New York/Hollywood/Obama/BRA/MSM beast.

            Please bare in mind that the “powers that be” will scream:


            Even if you are supporting milk toast groups, candidates like Sarah Palin, Tea Party, Rand Paul or The Family Research Council

          • You’re right about the left smearing anyone who disagrees with them. That said, I’m as afraid of right wing totalitarianism as I am of the left variety.

            The Covington people do indeed want to part company with the mainstream, which by itself is good and fine with me. However, they seem to relish the coming race war as a kind of deserved vengeance a la post-Weimar Germany, an excuse to do some serious damage to non-whites.

            In contrast I hope to persuade a bunch of people to simply walk away from the whole mess and save their energy for nation building instead of payback. America used to live in the future rather than the past and I hope that some will be able to get back to that.

            Hey — they can go their way, I’ll go mine. There is no reason why both groups can’t be successful in their own countries from their own viewpoints. If they want to try to recreate the salad days of the Aryan race that’s fine provided they let those who want to leave do so, and provided that they don’t try to cram their ideology down the throats of those elsewhere whose thinking is in line with mine.

          • NeanderthalDNA

            Good info. I’m like you mostly. Non-Nazi, though pretty much lost faith in “democracy” as it has devolved in this country (and Western Europe, etc,).

            Two things keep me at a distance from anything Naziesque…

            1. I don’t buy into the grand unified evil Jew conspiracy. Not unlike the existence of God, arguing the big Jew conspiracy NEVER proves nor disproves anything.

            2. Regardless of all the fine points, I don’t think this stuff will ever be able to truly rise above the legacy, will always turn off and impel away potential converts to race realism. A critical mass of believers cannot be achieved through this ideology or identification. We need to convert the a-political Joe and Jane, or the more conventional political White, and Nazi stuff stands in the way.

            On the other hand my cynicism regarding “democracy” and my feeling wee need to organize and present a fierce face to our enemies does impel me to admire certain aspects of fascism. Perhaps one day White ethnostates can democratize and institute representative systems that I would argue are natural to Whites and our character, but…

            There are aspects of our totalitarian democracy that I detest, that I fault to some extent in regard to our current predicament. That said, perhaps my cynicism regarding “democracy” is more a reaction against our perverted democracy.

            Certainly no system is perfect and all can become tyrannous abominations – even “democracies” like “ours”.

          • I’m in complete agreement with you except for one issue …

            You referred to our “perveted democracy”. That’s an accurate description of what we have become, but it’s not how we started out.

            Remember … The Founders were as afraid of democracy as they were of monarchy and theocracy. What they set up instead was a reasonably sensible system of (small, repeat small) representative government with the assumption that the representatives would be solid citizens with skin in the game.

            Unfortunately, those who came after found ways to subvert the system and transform it into your perverted democracy. For example, once upon a time senators were elected by state legislators, not by popular vote. For national office people voted for electors — solid citizens as grand jurors are presumed to be — who would meet as an electoral college, debate like legislatgors and then do the actual picking and choosing.

            That was getting on 250 years ago. Technology, commerce, business, agriculture, policing and warfare have changed so much that a new constitution clearly is needed, one to be written from scratch.

            What should that constitution look like? I’m a long way from seeing anything but broad outlines. However, last week some political writer whose name I’m spacing out suggested that any new constitution should forbid the federal government from being involved in commerce and the economy in any way at all.

            If we could count on the competence and goodwill of the line of succession a benevolent monarchy would be the best thing since monarchs are trained from childhood in statecraft. However, we can’t count on them. Some kind of republican form of government seems like the next best thing, details still to be worked out for Alyeska just as the Founders had to work them out for the future USA.

          • NeanderthalDNA

            I’m largely in agreement, though not a fan of unfettered capitalism. I like some mix, a balance. Think such worked well in pre-darkified Europe.

            Problem is multifarious. I think a solid social welfare safety net can work well for an homogeneous people, preferably with decent average IQ. I also theorize that much hostility to mixed economy and welfare on the part of Whites is a direct result of the fact that we live in a multinational society where less capable bleed more capable, thereby hurting the more capable. Many Whites also correctly understand that our civil services – having long since abandoned meritocracy and racist things like tests to determine competence – serves more to prop up an artificially upjumped black middle class. Heck, if real meritocracy were re-introduced to our public sector, the black middle class would almost disappear!

            So we bleed our system and undermine faith in government because we are nice and too cowardly to tell the truth even to save ourselves.

            If I won the mega powerball lottery, after investing money for myself and helping some friends, I think I’d found some kind of non-profit dedicated to…

            1. Assisting distressed Whites economically, educationally, etc.

            2. Providing scholarships to distressed Whites and home schooling support to ALL White parents.

            3. Fostering pride in our history, love of our selves, and solidarity.

            4. Providing legal resources for a massive wave of litigation to protect our people and gum up the system until it cracks.

            5. Promote and encourage responsible gun ownership and self defense training…the Phalanx. Basically copy and paste much of the NRA stuff, add in some martial arts training, tactical and strategic workshops.

            6. Enable Whites to network locally, nationally, internationally – but especially locally. Even a poor White who owns a car can give another poor White a ride. Maybe the poor White getting the ride to work can babysit or help out the ride giver…who knows? Touchy feely warm and fuzzy squishy stuff, you know?

            We must come to appreciate our kinship.

            Thanks for the civil response. You and I and all who post here are all part of the Phalanx already. As Whites, we have and respect differences of opinion, discuss them civilly, compromise when we need, but…

            Stand side by side in the Phalanx and forget our differences when facing the enemy.

          • Don’t take their nonsense seriously. I’ve been called a “Crypto-Jew” in print (by a different set of bottom-feeders), though I can not imagine how one reads any Jewishness into a Celtic-Amerind agnostic.

          • In 84 they killed Denver talk show host Alan Berg so I have to take the threats seriously given my goals. However, they don’t affect my behavior, my posts or my writing.


            Crypto-Amerind agnostic. Is that a federally recognized minority victim group? Or are you poaching?


          • I really am 3/16 injun, and I really am also Scottish, Irish and Welsh. I figure the neos would be happy I married a Japanese gal instead of a white woman.

          • English, Irish, Russian, Polish. Two of my four grandchildren are 1/4 Sioux. Is this a great nation or what? (At least it used to be.)

      • In my own opinion, war is a game of inches. One phenomenon that might benefit us is that when bubonic plague crosses the Mississippi/Missouri River, it will have access to the rat-infested black cities in the Midwest. Prairie dog hunting is already a dead letter on Colorado’s eastern plains and much of Kansas and Nebraska. The PD’s are plagued-out.

        When we cut off their water, natural gas and electricity in addition to stopping groceries from entering the cities they have already destroyed, Yersinia pestis will already be there.

        • I’m with you. In my upcoming Alyeska novel, a surprisingly small post-collapse set of bands of roving saboteurs is able to make life hell for the residual federal government by regularly attacking the technology choke points you’ve mentioned as well as some others.

          These groups of raiders are funded by the breakaway nations of Alyeska, Pacifica, Aztlan, Western States of America and Dixie. There is little love lost between these entities but they cooperate when it comes to the common goal of keeping the USA east of the Missouri/MIssippi and north of the Mason/Dixon line.

    • Jackryanvb

      Agreed. “American” now includes men like the Al Qaeda terrorist leader in Yemen killed by a US military drone. This ugly, Afro Arab terrorist was “American” by virtue of “birth right citizenship”. Ron Paul and Rand Paul defended this terrorist as a full American and warned that the US military was preparing for drone attacks on regular US citizens at home.

      • I’d have to say that the Pauls had been packing their pipes a little too tight when they came up with the “drone strikes at home” nonsense. It is much easier for the feds to conduct sting operations to catch Muzzie terrorist wannabees here in the US; the stings work the same way as those various city police departments have used for years to catch child sex predators: they go online posing as attractive bait (a 13 year-old girl or in the case of the FBI, a genuine terr with “connections”) and then they just wait. No need for the expense and bother of drone strikes here.

        On the other hand, drones are being used in the United States for things like watching the border for narcotics smuggling and our national forests for forest fires. They would probably also be useful for monitoring things like oil spills. I think to some extent, drones have replaced the old “black helicopter” hysteria of the 1990s.

        • NeanderthalDNA

          Rand Paul impresses me as a hotheaded grandstander and claptrap maestro.

          Robots are our friends. With the non-White (non-East Asian) world busting out babies like there’s no tomorrow, we Whites will either be forced to breed like our worsers or build and operate lots of killer robots to supplement our people.

          The problem is only in the will to do so. If our civilization is to survive we must prepare for the era of the fortress state, and drones/robots will be our friends.

          How I learned to stop worrying and love the Skynet…

          • Exactly; drones are just more of the technology we in the developed West are good at. Some of the professional whiners think using armed drone aircraft is “unfair”. Doubtless the soldiers of Queen Victoria’s British Army were quite happy with breech-loading rifles and centerfire cartridges when faced with hordes of berserk Zulus equipped with “iklwa” spears and shields of heavy hide. Rourke’s Drift pitted 120 Welshmen against 4000 Zulus. The Welsh won.

            Once a developed state has made its decision to put boots on the ground, it owes those soldiers the best equipment it can provide them. It’s only money.

  • me

    The ‘government’ is made up of a bunch of idiots, money whores, psychopaths, ‘liberals’, communists, ‘intellectuals’, Baby Boomers, atheists, non-goys, globalists, race traitors, and treasonous anti-Constitutionalists–all with conflicting agendas that DON’T include the sovereign and solemn protection of the country, it’s people, and the Constitution and Bill of Rights that they swore, under oath, to uphold and protect. Their only goal is to bring this once vibrant nation of European Americans to it’s complete destruction, as long as their own selfish, murderous, greedy, and psychopathic agendas are completed . The New World Order, with themselves as the ‘elite’, will be achieved, even if they have to disenfranchise or murder the majority of White citizens.

  • RHG

    The bigger question is why we are allowing these people to immigrate to America in the first place. The minute a muslim shows Islamic supremacy tendencies they should be deported to a place like Iran.

  • Massif1

    If they’re coming back from Syria, they’re not doing any fighting. The same mentality most Arabs had in Afghanistan fighting against the Soviet Union. The Arabs are setting up shops to bring in money and weapons and the Pakis were doing all the leg work. Don’t let the media full you with people actually fighting and coming back. Right now the “foreign fighters” in Syria are being targeted by the Kurds and by the Syrian forces. The chances of surviving an air attack, snipers, mortars, tanks, and artillery is really slim in that situation.

  • John K

    They must be talking about Muslim “immigrants”, anti-American blacks, and half of the Democrat party (see 99%ers).

  • Rick Brooks

    The Christian Science Monitor publishes politically correct claptrap like this all the time.
    If out of curiosity you were to visit their website tomorrow, you’d either find this ridiculously worded article still there or something equally idiotic. Same thing with a week from now, a month from, a year from now… ad infinitum.