Is That White Supremacist Part Black?

Razib Khan, Discover Magazine, November 12, 2013

{snip} The media is exploding with news that a DNA test has suggested that a notorious white supremacist is 14 percent black. The same one who was recently profiled in The New York Times promoting a separatist racial vision in a small North Dakota town. I’ll be honest and admit that I don’t think that these results will hold up. (though personally I would think it was rich and very funny if they did, just like everyone else).

The reason is the chart below. It’s from 23andMe‘s data set. Out of their ~100,000 white American individuals tested, ~5% have any evidence of African ancestry. Of those, you see the distribution of results. If Craig Cobb, the white supremacist, is ~14% Sub-Saharan African, he’s in the less than 0.1% of white Americans with this sort of pattern. If he was a Latin American white, or a identified white person of Arab ancestry, I’d be willing to accept the results as plausible on the face of it. But the reality is that European Americans with relatively well documented histories usually do not have a high probability of having African ancestry. And if they do, 14% is a great deal. I have seen this among my friends (or more honestly, 5-10%, which is not far off), but that was due to a cryptic (though somewhat known within the family) non-paternity event.

Chart

The media isn’t consistent about which firm tested Craig Cobb, so I’m not going to make accusations specifically, but he says he’s getting other tests done, and he’ll release the results. I’ll be curious to see the raw results. {snip}

Related: Has anyone followed up the old story that James Watson was part black? The timing was a little suspicious to me.

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  • Eagle_Eyed

    Saw a pic of Cobb. In no way is he 14% black. If he were then presumably he’d have a parent around 28% black and a grandparent close to half black. I think he’d already have known he had black ancestry if this were the case.

    • Andy

      I’m 1/16 Amerind, apparently, but I can’t be sure it’s true because it’s from several different ancestors. I’d think it would be more definite with black blood, though.

      • Sloppo

        I’ve seen pictures of some Cherokee people from a couple of centuries ago that appeared facially very similar to European. I’ve read that some even had blue eyes, but that theory is not universally accepted.

        • Funruffian

          I’ve met White people with 1/32 Amerindian ancestry and they look completely Caucasian to me without any physical attribute of the other. If the person was 1/32 Negro I’m sure the features would be a bit more easy to recognize. Even Octaroons and Quadroons are unmistakably part Negro in appearance. It is easy to recognize with hair texture, acute facial features and verbal cues.
          If this old guy was 14% Negro his hair would not be as thin and straight. His physiognomy seems 100% Caucasian even though he is old looking.

          • Jefferson

            I doubt very much that a person with 1/32 Negroid ancestry is going to have a Negroid phenotype.

            There is a Negroid actress named Stacey Dash who has a daughter with a Caucasoid phenotype.

            That means her daughter has a lot more than 1/32 Negroid ancestry. So blows your theory out of the water.

          • Funruffian

            Excuse yourself. I didn’t say a person with 1/32 Negro ancestry had to look like a Negro or even a little bit. I said Quadroon – 25% and Octaroon 12.5%. 1/32 would only equate to just over 3%.

        • Zaporizhian Sich

          I am quite sure I have a distant Cherokee ancestress, because although I look white with very light skin and eyes, I have little body hair and facial hair in particular, and I do not tolerate alcohol the way a full blooded Slav does. My mother also is sensitive to alcohol, a trait Indians have. She has found there is indeed evidence for this Cherokee ancestress’s existence, but so far we know little more than her name and when she died.

      • Oldcorporal

        I’m 1/16 Cherokee — although the only way it shows is the tendency of the males in my mother’s family to get a little pink, shading on red, in the face, as they get older. One of my great-grandmothers was supposedly full-blood Cherokee, and I’ve seen a photo of her; she looks like she could have been.

        • Amerindians are brown, not red.

        • Funruffian

          If your great grandmother was full-blooded then that would make you 1/8 Cherokee. Are you telling the truth? Just asking.

      • Sick of it

        Octaroons are fairly obvious to the untrained eye. The man simply doesn’t look 1/8+ black.

        • Renee Rain

          I don’t look black either. I am 14% African. My mother looked mixed with black, but I do not. My grandfather was black.

    • JustAsianGirl

      Every time i have seen a photo of him i see exotic racial features and his hair looks to have a touch of kinky. He looks like that black guy from new york who says “too damn high”

    • Stan D Mute

      I am told, without real proof nor any DNA testing, that I am 1/8th Indian (teepee Indian – not call center Indian), yet as a child I was a complete towhead with blue eyes. As an adult, I’m above average height, well above average according to IQ testing, very accomplished professionally, and my offspring are fair haired/skinned as you’d expect looking at my wife and myself. The only potential indication of this alleged Indian ancestry is my skin tone which is white almost to translucency (“blue blood” type) but quickly goes olive with sun exposure. It’s as if there’s a ready and waiting over active melanin response that springs forth as soon as it sees UV. In terms of appearance, I doubt anyone would ever suspect I’m anything but white. In Northern Europe, I get many admiring looks from females which I attribute to height, even features, and the skin tone which is interpreted as a sign of affluence in our culture.

      With that said, and assuming the family lore is true, it seems that Afro DNA is enough removed from Euro DNA (relative to Indian vs Euro) that there would be more phenotypic tell in this guy. From his photos, there is zero indication. With 1/8+ alleged Afro DNA, I’d expect him to look more like Obama’s Chicago preacher, Wright, or the former NAACP President, Jealous, who both appear to be 1/4-1/8 Afro.

      • Sick of it

        You may be less than 1/8th but it is true that rapid darkening in the sun can be indicative of such intermixture. I fry in the sun rather quickly. It’s actually very annoying at times.

        • Jefferson

          Rapid darkening when exposed to the sun is very common among Southern European Caucasoids and Middle Eastern Caucasoids. Just go to a beach in Southern Italy, Israel, Turkey, or Greece for example.

          Not every Caucasoid burns as easily under the sun as a Scottish redhead for example.

  • DailyKenn

    Junk science.

    With racial hatred and violence epidemic in urban areas, all cameras are focused on two harmless white families in North Dakota.

    • Sheik Yerbouti

      Like fly paper Cobb has drawn all of this attention. It’s almost as if it was part of the show all along. He sure didn’t employ invisibility. He seems to be seeking lots of attention. You have to admit, his act is the left’s dream come true!

  • [Guest]

    Isn’t it comical what a double-edged sword the notion is that race is merely “a social construct”? If that were so, then this “notorious white supremacist” couldn’t even BE a “notorious white supremacist.”

    If there’s no such thing as race, then there’s no such thing as a racist.

    • sbuffalonative

      He could really turn this around by claiming a great relative was raped by a black man. That would shut them up and make them think twice about pulling this kind of stunt.

      • [Guest]

        Yeah, he could suggest rape as a possible explanation and then point out that in one recent year in the U.S. 32,443 white females were sexually assaulted or raped by a black man and between zero and ten black females were sexually assaulted or raped by a white man.

        I wonder how many of our noble “anti-racist” friends would be interested in such facts. Between zero and ten, I’d guess.

        • D.B. Cooper

          I mention that little statistic all the time on other articles. You would never guess what kind of names I’ve been called.

          • [Guest]

            Yes, I’ve noticed that mentioning certain truths triggers apoplexy in a lot of people. Pity.

    • M.

      If race was just a social construct, then how could they find out he’s 14% black? I mean, 14% social construct.

      • [Guest]

        Good question. I’d like to see the “anti-racists” confronted with such questions every time they open their vile mouths.

      • ViktorNN

        I posed that question to some super liberal friends. One replied that contemporary biology says that while there are differences in “populations,” the differences aren’t great enough for the term “race” to be applied.

        My response was to ask whether he agreed then that there are biologically-based differences between blacks and whites.

        They just looked at me a bit stunned, and then changed the subject.

        • OHDeutscheKlezmerRebel

          Exactly!! These liberals spew this garbage, but know good and well that race is a fundamental difference between people. What they especially don’t want to admit, but especially know to be true, is that the different races have different basic temperaments. If they admit this, they will have to admit that most Black crime results from Blacks having a violent temperament, and a basic contentiousness, not from any of the tired Liberal B.S. about poverty or racism being the cause. This will entail Libtards admitting they are wrong, though, and that will never happen.

      • Jefferson

        Does this mean he is eligible for affirmative action ?

  • They say Cobb is 14% black. 14% is close to 12.5%, aka 1/8th, aka one black great grandparent out of eight, the other seven presumably being white. That much black and the black features show. We know that you can be as little as 1/32nd black (3.125%) and the rest white (one black great great great grandparent) and black features show on you, that’s how dominant black DNA is over white.

    Adam Clayton Powell was demonstrably 10% black, yet the black showed on him.

    • Oldcorporal

      Yes. I always thought that it was odd how, when an Amerind and a White mate, the offspring often will look about like a White person with very dark hair and eyes. When it’s a Negro and a White who copulate, the result often looks like a Negro who’s a quart low.

      • Jefferson

        If the off spring of an Amerindian and a White is guaranteed to look White, than why doesn’t George Zimmerman for example look White in phenotype ?

        After all Zimmerman is the off spring of a Amerindian Peruvian mother and a White father.

        • Zimmerman has oil in him.

        • OHDeutscheKlezmerRebel

          Zimmermann looks Mestizo to me. He wouldn’t even pass for Greek or Portuguese.

        • Xerxes22

          Zimmerman’s natural father was mestizo. His stepfather, who was of German decsent, adopted George and give him his surname. George Zimmerman has no German or Jewish blood in him.

      • Funruffian

        This is the typical DNA result of Mestizos. Mexicans and many peoples of Central and South America are Amerindians with partial Caucasian DNA.

        • OHDeutscheKlezmerRebel

          Exactly. What more needs to be said about this DNA producing a rather impulsive and violent temperament as compared to pure Caucasians?? These Mestizoes flowing across the Mexican border are better than the Groids, sure, but they are not maintaining White European culture by any stretch of the imagination. They definitely have a violent streak, as crime stats attest to.

      • OHDeutscheKlezmerRebel

        True. Half White and half Amerind folks usually look Greek or Portuguese, at least to someone who is accustomed to living around a lot of Southern Europeans.

      • Alexandra1973

        I’m at most 1/32 Cherokee, yet my husband has said you can tell by my eyes that I have some Amerind.

        I’m a brown-eyed brunette. But there are blond hair and blue eyes in my mother’s family (the Amerind comes from my mother’s side).

    • JustAsianGirl

      Craig cobb has negro hair

  • Daniel Schmuhl

    I mean it is possible that he’s 14% but it seems very unlikely from just looking at him. I do think he’s kind of foolish for going on this show in the first place though, you almost knew from the start what they were going to do.

  • dd121

    So what? His heart’s in the right place. I thought libs liked that sentiment.

  • John R

    This makes sense: We Whites do not like to mix with blacks. Plus there’s the “one drop” rule to contend with, which in the past helped preserve White racial purity. Another leftist fantasy.

  • libertarian1234

    “Is That White Supremacist Part Black?”

    What difference does it make? The amount is small enough it probably doesn’t matter.

    The libs just love to think they’ve “exposed” somebody when they make these kinds of revelations, then expect the person being discussed to become suddenly enlightened, see the error of his ways, and laud them for their good work in exposing his hypocrisy.

    In other words…like everything else….they have an immature, childish view of things that are based in their emotional immaturity.

  • Le Fox

    Saw this on numerous conspiracy theory websites. They are liberals, after all.

    I’d make a comment on the OoA theory, but I’ll pass. I’ll admit that this story had my eyebrows raised from the beginning. Good to see it pass.

  • borogirl54

    Would this be an issue if instead of being black, he was 14% Native American? I have never heard a white person complain about being part Native American.

    • ThatguyinTN

      Hello how are you doing? I have some indian in me my moms greatgrandmother and I am not happy about it. The only advantage I have found is when indians start whining about the evil white man I can tell them to shut up without being called racist since I am part one. If I could cut it out of me I would. They are not anything but America’s version of whiny gypsy hippies.

      • borogirl54

        You are the first one. The white people that I have met are proud that they have some Native American ancestry.

        • ThatguyinTN

          Why though that just means somewhere along the way they had a family member that was either a race traitor or a rape victim.

          • OHDeutscheKlezmerRebel

            More like a rape victim, if the ancestry is from before 30 years ago.

          • D.B. Cooper

            I would disagree with you “ThatguyinTN”. I don’t know if you have ever served in the military, but there are jobs which will take a man far away from access to females.
            If you’re in the Army, you live on a base bigger than the town it’s in, and there are 10 single men for every one single girl.
            If you are in the Navy, you are thousands of miles away on a ship with hundreds of men.
            If you are in the Air Force, your base is often out in the middle of nowhere.
            If you are in the Marines, you’re not in one place long enough to develop a close relationship.
            If you followed Manifest Destiny over 100 years ago, the squaw was often your only option. Your son will grow up to be one of their leaders, and you daughter marries a white man. Your 46 chromosomes live on.

          • Blue-eyed Devil

            I was in the Air Force in the 80s and my base was in the sticks.

          • White men and Amerind women got on well for several reasons. Most white men didn’t treat women as hideously as Amerind men did – and occasionally still do – and Amerind women worked harder and were more likely to survive childbirth under primitive conditions.

            If I was single and this was Colorado in 1813 instead of 2013, I’d find an Arapaho gal and call it good.

          • Sick of it

            Not to mention the lack of women on the frontier. The earliest settlers in many locales married Indian women because they were the only women available. That includes marriages in early English settlements (before women started heading over here in any real numbers).

        • Martel

          They suffer from Engelman’s disease.

        • OHDeutscheKlezmerRebel

          I’ve noticed that too. Knew a couple of folks who were half American Indian. Much better to be around than the Groids, no doubt, but they surely didn’t act like most Whites. Very short-tempered, always ready to fight someone over something not even worth being upset over, and raging alcoholics. Pure Caucasian descent is far preferable.

      • Alexandra1973

        Well, you can’t help your ancestry.

        I’m not *proud* to have a touch of Amerind but I’m not ashamed of it. Though I self-identify as white.

    • Bardon Kaldian

      Africans are so different from others that one drop rule applies, in practice, solely to them.

      • OHDeutscheKlezmerRebel

        I agree. Negroid ancestry in any amount contaminates. Very few Whites have any Groid descent at all. Until recent years, members of all of the other races were repulsed by the Negroes, as should still be the case.

        • Alexandra1973

          I have a book called “The Two Babylons” by Alexander Hislop, tells about the ancient Babylonian system (and how Catholicism sprung from it, but that’s not the point here).

          Nimrod, having descended from Ham, was black. His wife Semiramis was white, and I’m guessing she was a blue-eyed blonde. Here’s a passage from that book, and if you have it look in the chapter “The Deification of the Child”:

          “Semiramis gained glory from her dead and deified husband; and of course in time both of them, under the names of Rhea and Nin, or ‘Goddess-Mother and Son,’ were worshipped with an enthusiasm that was incredible, and their images were everywhere set up and adored. Wherever the negro aspect of Nimrod was found an obstacle to his worship, this was very easily obviated. According to the Chaldean doctrine of the transmigration of souls, all that was needful was just to teach that Ninus had reappeared in the person of the posthumous son, of a fair complexion, supernaturally borne by his widowed wife after the father had gone to glory.”

          Back in the ancient times they didn’t want to worship a negro, go figure!

      • JustAsianGirl

        Am i missing something? Why does it look like Craig Cobb has a jewish afro

  • sbuffalonative

    I saw the video on the net. My first thought was the test results were a fraud and used as a ‘gottach’ moment on TV.

  • bigone4u

    His DNA “test” was done for a talk show hosted by the usual type of black woman–an attractively attired, lighter skinned Bantu woman of average intelligence, but a smart mouth on her. In the video I saw she tried to “fist bump” him for being black, but he refused. This event is a nonevent worthy of Jerry Springer. I look forward to the real test results soon.

  • M.

    That doesn’t really matter, since some regulars here on AmRen are multiracial and White nationalists at the same time.
    David Yeagley is part Amerindian, and yet definitely pro-White.

    • tremendouscoast

      I am of Anglo – Puerto Rican ancestry and while overwhelming White (82%) have some admixture of African (10%) – Amerindian (8%) ancestry. It is fairly common for New World Latins who are White in appearance (or more of less so) to have some admixture of non-white blood. It is also common for upwardly mobile Latins to marry someone lighter than themselves. My father was one such individual and I am glad he did so. I am also glad he left NYC in the 1950’s and moved to Mid – America where I could grow up in a safe, clean, homogenous environment.

      The Spaniards had sixteen different terms for race and the one drop one did not apply in those societies as it did in the United States. I can assure you I have little for blacks or mulatto/black Puerto Ricans and do not deal with them anymore than necessary.

      I am 100% pro-Amren, Vdare and am a member of the Council of Conservative Citizens. You would guess me as Italian or maybe Greek, if I did not tell you differently.

      • Funruffian

        I always thought that is was bogus whenever I heard a White person claim they have Native American/Cherokee ancestry. First off, they like the exotic appeal of what that brings to their self-image or lack thereof. Since no one they meet is readily prepared to disprove or verify their claim of “part Native American ancestry they know this bluff may work with just about everyone they encounter.
        Furthermore, this absolves them of Racism or the stigma of White elitism by claiming they are part ethnic. I was never fooled by it. It sounds stupid coming from the people I’ve met and they often try to throw those bogus claims in conversations to add a level of ethnic mystique to their bland lives.
        The only people who can brag about this with certainty are the Mestizos. They have far more Native American ancestry than any of these wannabee Whites and they hardly ever brag about the Amerindian side of their roots.

        • tremendouscoast

          My mother’s family are Southern and it is very common for Southerners to brag about having some sort of American Indian ancestry (particularly Cherokee). I also am skeptical of such claims.

          • OHDeutscheKlezmerRebel

            I noticed that when travelling down South. My wife and I asked a couple of folks if they were Greek or Sicilian due to their dark eyes and complexion, and were told that many folks have some American Indian descent down there. It is hard for me to doubt, as few Southern Europeans settled in the South.

          • tremendouscoast

            Many Southerners have melungeon ancestry. Particularly in Appalachia.

          • Blue-eyed Devil

            What does melungeon mean?

          • Partly black.

          • Sick of it

            Don’t be. More Indians stayed on their land (as American citizens) and mixed with whites than were removed onto the reservations. At least with the 5 civilized nations. White settlers in the trans-Mississippi region often intermarried with local tribes.

          • fuzzypook

            I wouldn’t be so skeptical. I am from the South. My father is from W. Virginia. He can trace ancestors back to the 1600’s. Appalachian and other Southerners did mix with natives quite a bit. Most Southerners have ancestors that go back a few hundred years, therefor it is more likely than not that a Southerner would have and Indian in the woodpile somewhere.

        • Blue-eyed Devil

          Dog the Bounty Hunter is part Cherokee. So was Elvis and James Garner (Rockford Files) is 1/4 Cherokee.

          • Funruffian

            Elvis was 1/32 Cherokee. James Garner can pass for part Cherokee ad well.

          • Blue-eyed Devil

            What percentage is 1/32?

          • Alexandra1973

            1/4 25%
            1/8 12.5%
            1/16 6.25%
            1/32 3.125%

            I’m roughly 96.875% white. LOL

          • 81% white here.

          • Blue-eyed Devil

            100% White here and PROUD of it.
            1/4 Irish
            1/4 Swedish
            1/2 Italian

          • Jefferson

            You are half Northern European, that would explain why you do not have typical dark Southern Italian/Sicilian features since you are not 100 percent Southern Italian to begin with.

          • Funruffian

            About 3%.

          • Blue-eyed Devil

            Thx

        • Alexandra1973

          Several generations ago my mother had ancestors in Virginia. The last name was Summers, and there were Cherokees in Virginia. (I remember reading something about Summers being a common Cherokee name in the Shenandoah Valley.)

          I had an ancestor, Daniel Summers, who was born in 1808 in Virginia. He was a preacher. We think his wife may have been Cherokee. For all I know he might have been Cherokee and his wife white. I might add it’s one of those genealogical “brick walls,” where you can’t seem to go any further back.

          That branch of my family hung around Virginia and Maryland for a while, then moved on to Ohio, Indiana, and Michigan.

        • In my case, I tan very easily, and the resulting color isn’t a white guy’s tan. I also only have to shave twice a week, and this is at age 47. I still haven’t grown a proper “rug” on my chest.

          I wouldn’t “cut it out of me” if I could. I appreciate what I am. Some of the things that have happened in my life bother me a great deal, but I have a house that is paid off, a wife who loves me, a healthy 71 year-old mother and a very intelligent 6 year-old daughter.

          I am machining Ariadne a conundrum puzzle that uses large ball bearings as the keys to the interlocking parts. When the bearings run out or are completely interlocked, the puzzle must be reset. The object is to get one ball bearing out the bottom and still be able to reset the puzzle into a cube. This will be her Christmas present from me. Nobody else in the world will get one.

          Amerind is only part of what I am. Who I am is much more important to me.

          • Funruffian

            You have the right attitude.

        • Different sort of injuns.

      • DAWNOFNEWDAY

        Thank you, sir! I like David Yeagley as well. He’s a good man.

      • Blue-eyed Devil

        Being Italian or Greek is a good thing.

        • tremendouscoast

          Nothing wrong with it. With all of the problems we are facing do not have the luxury of arguring among ourselves over who is “white enough”.

          • Blue-eyed Devil

            We Whites are too few in number to fight each other. We have to unite and try to survive as a people and a race. Let’s forget the past and concentrate on the future. Dark days are ahead for us.

    • OHDeutscheKlezmerRebel

      He definitely is. Yeagley is a good guy. In his videos, he speaks of being half Comanche, and half German. I don’t like that he refers to his German side as “Kraut”, though. Such a term as “Kraut” has no place in White Nationalism, and this does lead me to wonder if he is a true racial realist. His German ancestry is definitively superior to the Comanche descent, and he needs to be thankful for, and most proud of his German descent. I’d rather hear him refer to his part “Injun” descent, and speak reverently of his German descent.

      • I use “Kraut” all the time, and find no offense in it.

        Kraut is the majority of my ethnic constitution.

        • Blue-eyed Devil

          I love sourkraut on hot dogs.

          • I mix sauerkraut with Korean kimchi seasoning. It is very nice with hamburgers that have bulgoki sauce under the bun. Using sauerkraut with kimchi seasoning saves a lot of trouble messing around with a whole head of cabbage.

            Seoul food, anyone?

        • OHDeutscheKlezmerRebel

          Never especially minded it back when we could call Negroids porch monkeys or jungle bunnies, or call American Indians Injuns without running the risk of losing our livelihood. As long as I’m not allowed to call an American Indian an Injun because that apparently offends them, I don’t think they, or any other non-Whites should be allowed to bandy about derogatory ethnic epithets towards us Whites, just because our crappy, anti-White Government permits them to. As long as we can’t even use playful terms for the non-Whites, we should at the very least feign umbrage when they direct such terms at us. We, as Whites, are having our rights of freedom of speech trampled in America. If a Black dares to call me White boy, for example, I immediately accuse them of being racist, and ask them how they would like it if I call them Black boy, and ask them if they have a problem with my being White. Usually, they get the point right away, and further bullying does not occur. We need to stand up to all of these non-White minorities that are being coddled and protected by our corrupt, anti-White Government, and not give them an inch of permission to bully us. American Indians are one of these groups that is being coddled and enabled. If I can’t call one of them an Injun or a Scalper in a playful tone, I will not accept them insulting my German descent by calling me a Kraut. If I call one of them an Injun or Scalper in a workplace, they will probably run to a supervisor and complain, and I will be fired. Yet, if they call me a Kraut, and I tell a supervisor, I will be told to suck it up. This is the kind of double standard, anti-White B.S. that we need to stand up to, as Whites, here in America.

          • Blue-eyed Devil

            With blacks, you could be a White 97 year old World War II veteran and they would still call you “White Boy”.

        • I love ethnic stereotypes. I’m every bit of all of those. I suspect if I had more German ancestry, I’d be better at being organized, but I didn’t get to choose.

      • Alexandra1973

        I have German ancestry and I just shrug that off.

        I’m half Polish and the term “Pollack” doesn’t bother me at all.

        • OHDeutscheKlezmerRebel

          Such terms don’t usually bother us, I think, because in the old days, our forebears knew that hard work, sacrifice, and good moral values were the ticket to success and earning respect, not accusing the dominant group of being bigoted. Poles, Germans, Italians, and all of the different White European nationalities knew these basic tenets, and abided by them. This was why your ancestors and my ancestors became well adjusted Americans who made this country a better place, instead of tearing in down as Blacks have.
          While I would never want to see White Americans adopt the spirit of entitlement of the non-White minorities, I still feel strongly that we should not allow the non-Whites freedoms that we are not being granted. We cannot use playful or even deserved epithets to describe them without risking loss of livelihood, so we should not allow them to use such epithets against us. Our Government will let them do so with impunity, so we need to stand up to them and refuse their bullying when they use such terms against us. In this spirit, I want to hear Yeagley call himself either part Injun, part Kraut, or put a sock in it with the Kraut bit. If he doesn’t, he is no White Nationalist.

  • authorizedversion .

    blue eyes = white.

    • Alexandra1973

      Well…there was a black girl in my class, she had a fairly light complexion and blue eyes, but you could tell she was black. And as I recall, she seemed to be a bit more decent than other blacks. (Relatively speaking of course.)

      • borogirl54

        Former Miss America Vanessa Williams is a light skinned black with blue eyes.

        • cloudswrest

          According to Ms. Williams herself she is:

          My DNA breaks down as follows: I’m 23% from Ghana, 17% from the British Isles, 15% from Cameroon, 12% Finnish, 11% Southern European, 7% Togo, 6% Benin, 5% Senegal and 4% Portuguese.

          • Sharps Rifle

            56 percent sub-Saharan, in other words. The remainder adds up to 34, so something else is in there…

          • Blue-eyed Devil

            In other words, a walking identity crisis.

          • Bossman

            No, she is just an American.

          • Bossman

            She is a product of Europe and Africa but made in America.

        • OHDeutscheKlezmerRebel

          Blue eyes?? She looks like a typical Groid to me.

      • Archibald_Cunningham

        Blacks love wearing colored, especially blue, contacts. I’ve seen it several times, and they look freakish and unnatural with them. Even among mixed blacks, naturally blue or light-colored eyes are extremely rare.

        • WASP

          Absolutely and how ridiculous they look bleaching their hair blonde, which, of course, does not even look like blonde Caucasian hair anyway.

          • Archibald_Cunningham

            It usually turns out a sort of urine-blonde on them. I think that’s the best way to describe it.

          • borogirl54

            The hair on their heads is not even their own. It belonged to some Indian who had his/her head shaved to sacrifice to an Indian God whose hair was sold to the black woman who wears it on her head. BTW, Koreans control most of the hair market in the states. I always found it ironic that blacks are the biggest buyers of hair but they don’t run the hair stores.

          • Blue-eyed Devil

            I work with some young Mexican gals who bleach their hair blonde. It looks ridiculous. It’s a pathetic attempt to look White I’m guessing.

          • Blue-eyed Devil

            Clairol Number Nine.

        • Homo_Occidentalis

          Believe it or not I’ve seen it more among Asians than I have among blacks. It’s very unnerving. You can always tell they’re fake right away because the pupils never dilate, and that’s even if they haven’t chosen gaudy colors like purple, orange, or the like.

          • JustAsianGirl

            Its cute to experiment. Lot of Koreans have light brown eyes.

    • Homo_Occidentalis

      I don’t think it’s that simple. It may be true generally, but I’ve seen more than a few light-eyed biracial people in my time. I’ve seen half-Japanese, half-Amerindian, half-Dravidian, etc. people with blue eyes. I’m not sure how it happens, as blue eyes are supposed to be recessive, but I don’t think the genetics of it are as clear cut as laypeople seem to believe. For what it’s worth though, I’ve never seen a blue-eyed mulatto.

      • D.B. Cooper

        The way human genetics work is that it takes just one dark gene to have dark hair or eyes. Every single brown eyed person on Earth has at least one parent with brown eyes. The same rule applies to dark hair.
        Two blue eyed parents, however, aren’t having a brown eyed kid.
        If you are a brown eyed brunette, you are capable of having blond/red haired children with blue/green eyes if one of your parents fall into that category.
        Both of my grandmothers had brown eyes. I have blue eyes. I do not carry either one of those brown eyed genes. I would have to marry a brown eyed girl to have children with that eye color.

        • MikeofAges

          What’s this “marry” stuff anyway? Just go down to watering hole on Saturday night and jump into the jean pool. What happened? Did you land on your head?

          • I like being married. Having my best friend living here with me is a lot of fun. I think marriage is the only responsible way to raise children.

      • Bossman

        There are blue-eyed and green-eyed Mulattoes. I’ve seen a few myself. Most unusual is to see a completely black-looking man with blue eyes but there are a few.

        • Blue-eyed Devil

          I’ve never seen a Mulatto or blacks with blue eyes but I’ve seen a couple with green eyes.

          • Jefferson

            I have also seen Mulattos with hazel eyes, but never blue.

    • rightrightright

      The post room supervisor where I used to work was a very black African. He had bright dark blue eyes. People did a double take when they saw him for the first time.

      • Blue-eyed Devil

        “Black Postal Supervisor”. I’ve seen MANY of those.

  • pcmustgo

    The only feature I could notice that could come off as part black is that he has very large bones… his face is very prominent and big with bones. I once met a guy who grew up in the Caribbean and claimed to be about 1/16th black… mulatto grandmother. He had no visible black features, blond hair, straight, blue eyes… and I’m used to picking out ethnic features and have known many mulattoes and quadroons, mixed race hispanics, etc. He, like this man, did have very large bones. Big boned.

    • JustAsianGirl

      Craig cobb looks like that black guy who says “too damn high” and he looks like he has an afro.

    • Jefferson

      I don’t see any obvious Negroid features in his phenotype. Drop that man off in the Brownsville housing projects in New York City for example and there is a high chance he would be a victim of a violent hate crime by one of his Obama’s sons.

      Obama’s sons in the housing projects will see a creepy ass Cracker when they look at his phenotype.

  • Alexandra1973

    Big whoop, I’m pro-white and I have a touch of Amerind ancestry.

    Any person of any race can be a race realist anyway.

    • D.B. Cooper

      I had an Apache woman ancestor that died around 1890. I think the only chromosome I have left from that branch of the family tree is my hairline that will never recede, and I can go a couple of days without shaving.

    • OHDeutscheKlezmerRebel

      Amerindian, though, doesn’t seem to severely alter a White person’s temperament when it is a small dose. Negroid does. Some of the tribes, such as the Cherokee, also had pretty advanced cultures when the Europeans first found them. Thomas Jefferson wrote that, while he believed the Negro could never become a part of our culture or live amongst us without severe problems resulting, he felt that the American Indians could live nicely amongst us. While I personally think this was a little bit of stretch on his part, considering the needless savagery of so many of the Indian tribes and their wanton disrespect for European settlers, with our definitively superior culture, it is an interesting commentary on American Indians.

      • Bossman

        The natives of the Americas have been mixing with white people from day one.

        • Wethepeople

          Natives of the americas? The solutreans died out a long time ago, killed by what we now refer to as amerinds. They aren’t mixing with anyone.

          • Blue-eyed Devil

            Give Bossman a break. We Whites are not native to the Americas.

          • Jefferson

            There are some delusional people here on American Renaissance who believe that the original inhabitants of North America, Central, America, and South America looked like blond haired and blue eyed Nordic Scandinavians and that Amerindian Mongoloids were not the original inhabitants of The New World. They are whitewashing world history. They are no different than Afrocentrics who blackwash world history and claim that the original inhabitants of the Mediterranean were Negroids.

          • Blue-eyed Devil

            I couldn’t have said it better myself.

          • Sick of it

            So you don’t believe in the existence of Kennewick Man or Spirit Cave Man? They’re just theories that have physical form? Social constructs that can be held in one’s hand?

          • fuzzypook

            The global map of the distribution of the Clovis point is enough to convince me that the Solutrian hypothesis has more than a little merit.

        • Blue-eyed Devil

          The Spanish who conquered Mexico and Peru did not bring any women with them, so naturally they had sex with the Indian women. However, there was a second Spanish expedition sent to arrest Cortes, and that expedition had some Spanish women. They were captured by the Aztecs and sacrificed on the altar at Zupultec.

      • Alexandra1973

        As I’ve said to my husband, if I have to have non-white ancestry, at least it’s not black!

      • Bossman

        The first person that Jefferson saw when he got up in the morning was Sally Hemmings and she was 1/4 black. Some people believe that Jefferson himself was part-black and part-American Indian. Some people have even written books about that.

    • JustAsianGirl

      I am a race realist too , but I’m a soft race realist

  • MekongDelta69

    23andMe is one of those so-called genetic testers you see advertised on TV for $99.

    I’m sure they’re JUST AS reliable as all the Intel Agency’s DNA forensic tests.
    /sarc

    • cloudswrest

      They are quite reliable. For all practical purposes 23andme is Google (CEO Anne Wojcicki is the spouse of Google CEO Sergey Brin). It’s cheap in order to subsidize their vacuuming of all worldly data.

    • borogirl54

      Is this the same stuff that you can buy at the drug store?

  • Sensitivity Training

    If I had black ancestors, I’d hate blacks even more.

  • D.B. Cooper

    At what point is someone part black considered white? If black people call them white? If they are attractive and smart enough for white people to claim them as one of their own?

    Take right winger Stacey Dash for example, of Clueless fame. If I were ever to consider a woman like Dash as a partner, I would not be thrilled at her apparent ONE dark skin chromosome, yet she does have enough favorable genes to have a cheerleader’s body at 46 years old, an above average IQ, and other family members are successful in their own right.

    As far as hate is concerned, I think blacks, especially black women hate Stacey Dash more than the typical Amren reader. These quotes are written by a black woman:

    Earlier this week I listened to an article about Stacey Dash, supposedly a black woman, and how some members of the black community are calling her a racist for her support of Mitt Romney in his bid to unseat America’s first black President Barack Obama. I have no doubt that Ms. Dash was, is, and will be labeled a racist by many black people.

    it is a fair bet that it is no mere coincidence that all three of her husbands, Brian Lovell from 1999 to 2005, James Maby from 2005 to 2006, and Emmanuel Xuereb 2007 to 2010, have been white. So here is a black woman with a history of marrying white men endorsing the racially insensitive white man running to unseat the black President. Is it fair to say that a black woman that would endorse a racially insensitive white man, a black woman with a history of marrying only white men, might herself be racist against black people? But considering Ms. Dash’s marriage record, the woman really could be considered a racist who would prefer to keep black men at arm’s length. Ms. Dash isn’t qualified to pick a husband let alone a President.

    Hatred…. or jealousy?

    Top, L to R: Stacey at 18, 28, and 44 years old.
    Bottom, L to R: Stacey at 45 and her current age of 46. Ironically, her daughter’s brown eyes come from the white husband. Stacey has green eyes.
    I don’t care how racist you are, if Stacey at 18 expressed interest in you, and you know what you have to look forward to for the next 28 years (there are more than enough nudes of her in her 40s), I don’t think a lot of white men would think twice. We already know Stacey thinks you’re hot, white boy. Worse case scenario: your daughter inherits 100% of Stacey’s blackness, and you end up with a daughter who looks like her.

    • Archibald_Cunningham

      Interesting point; can’t say I disagree with you. However, you could count the number of mulatto women who look and think like Stacy Dash on one hand. Probably one finger.

      • D.B. Cooper

        I would have to agree with you there. Stacey Dash types are very rare. I used her as an example of how selective are you when consider what kind of children you would have? Would they rise to the top of humanity with Stacey as your children’s mother, or if “lower quality” white women were?
        You could do worse than Stacey…. a LOT worse.

        • OHDeutscheKlezmerRebel

          I doubt that there is any Groid in Roseanne Barr. Barr is probably Polish, and She is probably at least part Jewish, but surely not a Groid. Not only does She not look like a Groid, She doesn’t act like one either. An obnoxious Jewess, maybe, with a lower IQ than the Ashkenazi average, the kind of Jew that gives Jews a bad name.

          • Bossman

            She looks like she could be slightly Mongolian: the round face, the broad head, the heavy lidded eyes.

          • D.B. Cooper

            You know it’s bad when NO ethnic group wants to claim you.

          • Khazar Tartar then.

          • Bossman

            Jews in their wanderings and in accepting converts have acquired Asian and African genes.

          • PesachPatriot

            I don’t care what she is….she is obnoxious and annoying and no guy I know would even think of dating here under any circumstances….

          • Blue-eyed Devil

            She disrespected the National Anthem.

          • OHDeutscheKlezmerRebel

            I agree!! She epitomizes obnoxious!! I could never see what why Tom Arnold fell for her. Decent looking, in my opinion, but oh so stupid and obnoxious. Arrogance and ignorance are common bedfellows, and She is a living, breathing example of this.

    • OHDeutscheKlezmerRebel

      They are never White. They are always Mulatto, and belong in Africa, with the rest of the Groids.

      • Blue-eyed Devil

        I wish we could ship our 30 million nignogs back to Mother Africa.

    • JustAsianGirl

      She is very very pretty.

      She also is known for being dumb as bricks, and running through three husbands is proof she is batshit crazy and fame nuts. I am sure she has gone ghetto/street on all there of those white men.

      Well thats where us calm, high IQ , asian chicks come in.

    • Blue-eyed Devil

      At what point? When affluent White teens in the burbs become Whiggers and start dressing like Eminem.

  • Spartacus

    Every time a White man does something related to common sense, the ziomedia automatically claims he’s part groid. Just a coincidence, of course…

    • OHDeutscheKlezmerRebel

      Exactly!! We can’t even watch a commercial for DIY home stores without being subjected to images of Groids living in McMansions these days.

  • Spartacus

    If he were 14% groid, it would show…

    • OHDeutscheKlezmerRebel

      Exactly!! At 14%, he would have too much Groid in his temperament to latch onto the mentality of White Separatism. He would be a Libtard par excellence, so as to justify to himself his own Mulatto existence.

    • JustAsianGirl

      Shows to me. He looks like a white black

      • Spartacus

        Huh ? Where the hell do you see any negroid features on him ?

    • Bossman

      These kind of percentages are meaningless. Most people who are 1/8 black usually look completely white. Believe it or not, a white man with some black ancestry will generally have red hair. According to some anthropologists, red hair in white northern people is always a sign of mixture with dark races.

      • Spartacus

        Yes, I’m sure they will…

  • Oldcorporal

    They pulled that “part black” hooey on Warren Harding when he was running for president, too. I don’t think they found anything.

  • Luca

    If you have any Spanish (Iberian) DNA you could well have +/-1% and look as White as a blonde-haired, blue-eyed Swede. That particular DNA could be more than a thousand years old.

    At 14% he would have had at least a mulatto grandparent and I am sure he would be aware of that.

    • OHDeutscheKlezmerRebel

      Exactly!! If his family roots are in North Dakota, especially, the chances of him being 14% Groid are next to none. In the old generations in the Upper Midwest, a German or Scandinavian would not have dated an Italian or Greek, let alone a Negroid. The old Generations of Germans and Scandinavians rarely even dated the Yankees of English ancestry who had migrated to the Upper Midwest from New England and New York. Any type of intimate relations with a Negro, supposing one actually encountered a Negro living in the area, would have been grounds for disownment by one’s family.

      • Blue-eyed Devil

        Why not? Are Italians and Greeks inferior or something?

        • OHDeutscheKlezmerRebel

          Not in the least. Italians and Greeks, in my opinion, are fellow Europeans, not inferior in any way. I am a racial realist, as well as a strong believer in Pan-Europeanism. I was describing the attitudes of the older generations, the generation born between about 1880-1900 in particular. Most of them were not Pan-European in their outlook.

  • Tim_in_Indiana

    I don’t know much about Cobb’s personal politics, but if he’s “promoting a separatist racial vision in a small North Dakota town,” it sounds like he’s a white separatist, not a “white supremacist” (whatever that is). More MSM untruth in labeling.

  • WASP

    This is interesting news about Craig Cobb being 14% African? It’s very hard to hide Black ancestry. It’ll be interesting to see the results of his other tests. I hope those results will be published on AMREN.

  • [Guest]

    Exactly. And the self-proclaimed “anti-racists” are so perverse that they can see racism in someone uttering the phrase “black hole” in a business meeting and then be blind to race in the Knoxville Horror or any of the other acts of black savagery against white people. They could hardly be more racist and hypocritical.

  • RHG

    Just amazing to watch how one white guy in a desolate area in the middle of nowhere talking about wanting to be around whites has to be hunted down and hounded and made an example out of. Ginning up some phony “test” results and trying to portray him as “black” is all part of that process. Now any other white person that expresses the same views will now be told “you probably got some black in you too”.

    • OHDeutscheKlezmerRebel

      Only in the fantasy worlds of Left Wing Libtards do most of us have any Negro in our family backgrounds whatsoever. Until the last 30 years, the consensus amongst most Whites was that miscegenation with Negroes is abhorrent. Being that miscegenation was against the law in most places with a significant Black population until the late 1960’s, and many folks in rural and small town areas outside of the South had hardly ever met, let alone spent any amount of time around a Negro, it is ridiculous of these Libtards to make such assumptions. They are disrespecting their forebears with this.

      • WASP

        Well, you’re someone from my school-of-thought. I’m from the deep south, and my family here goes back almost 300 years. No Negroes in our family tree. As you say, to southern Whites miscegenation with Negroes has always been abhorrent (at least until recent times when they’ve gone whacko!). We abide by the “one drop” rule. Anyone with African DNA is considered “Black” no matter how white he/she may look. The worst insult you could give someone was to accuse them and/or their family of being part Negro. We aren’t keen on mixing with any other “colored” races either. How far we have fallen. Southern Whites were a proud people; many still are.

    • rightrightright

      The Left accuses this man of seeking “white supremacism” whereas in truth he is a “white separatist”, a quite different philosophy which the Left can’t demonise so easily.

      • RHG

        Yep, it’s definitely easier to label someone as a “white supremacist” and attack them then it is going after someone who simply would prefer to live around all whites and avoid all the trouble that “diversity” brings with it.

  • Eagle_Eyed

    Actually I’ve become very skeptical of these types of tests. James Watson wasn’t black either, yet Slate said he was like 1/8 black due to a “genetic test.”

  • borogirl54

    I have read Billie Holliday’s biography and she never had any kids. The only thing that she mentioned about kids is that she wanted to adopt but could not because of her drug addiction.

  • borogirl54

    Actually, people from the Southern Europe such as Spanish, Italians and Portuguese are susceptible to Sickle Cell Anemia. I saw a picture of a white girl on the Sickle Cell Association website. I believe that she was Italian and she had the disease.

    • Ella

      Well, they did have 300-500 years of Berber and Moorish rule in some of the Mediterranean countries. I can understand this occurrence.

    • Blue-eyed Devil

      What scientific proof do you have to support this theory? I’m half Italian and have never heard such utter nonsense.

  • Jefferson

    I remember there was a study that said 30 percent of “White” Americans have a Negroid ancestor in their family tree.

    Liberals were giggling with joy when they read that.

    But that study was flawed because it did not separate so-called “White Hispanics” from Non Hispanic Whites.

    Meaning that study genetically tested so-called “White” Puerto Ricans, Mexicans, Cubans, Central Americans, North Africans, Arabs, etc. It was not limited to just White Gringos only.

    And we all know how racially mixed so-called “White” people from North Africa, The Middle East, and Latin America are.

    • OHDeutscheKlezmerRebel

      There is appreciable Negroid admixture in the genes of the Arabs in the North African countries. I don’t consider these folks to be White.

      • M.

        Apart from the very few purebred Berbers remaining, they’re not. The average Algerian or Tunisian looks Sicilian or Portuguese at best.

    • itdoesnotmatter

      It is not possible for me to have Afro blood. I am O homozygous Rh negative, Rhesus negative origin not yet understood by science. At least understanding not admitted. As with all things genetic, PC factors are involved.
      It is posited that Rh negative blood was helpful in surviving cold Northern climes; something to do with necessary, adaptive carbon/oxygen blood gas exchange. The highest percentage of Rh negative blood is found among Basques. Next, Northern Europeans in the British Isles.

      • itdoesnotmatter

        @America First:
        No, not the Moroccans; it’s Basques, hands down. Here in a study done among Moroccans:
        To determine phenotypic and allelic frequencies of ABO Rhesus D blood groups in a Moroccans blood population, a sample 219,287 blood donors was collected from 15 different regions across the country. The overall ABO antigens frequency was 32.86%, 15.80%, 4.53% and 46.80% for blood groups A, B, AB and O, respectively.
        In addition, the Rhesus D positive frequency was 91.00%.

    • Bossman

      So what is your point? If you look white in America, then you’re white. Checking deep down into people’s ancestry is just a waste of time. For example, what good would it do to tell a black man that he was 10% white.

      • Blue-eyed Devil

        Not necessarily. IMO, you aren’t really White unless you’re European or European American.

      • Jack Burton

        Total nonsense.

        That was never the legal racial standard in America. That’s like saying “well he looked innocent, so he’s not guilty of any crime.” That’s utter stupidity.

        • Bossman

          Really? So how do you explain the phenomenon of “passing” for white? It must have happened a lot in the past in the USA.

    • Blue-eyed Devil

      I sure hope Uncle Ben isn’t in my family tree.

    • Jack Burton

      It’s good that you understand the deception there.

      It’s certainly true for Latin American “whites,” as they’re virtually all racially mixed.

      The worst thing we can do is accept them as white and adopt their mongrelized white identity.

      • Bossman

        Do you like women? These mongrelized Latin American women have been completely dominating the Miss Universe contests for the last thirty years. I watched the last one a week ago and once again most of the top ten were from Latin America. As long as cross breeding produces attractive women, there’s going to be lots of it. You’re forgetting or are unaware that another part of this equation is sexual.

  • I would be willing to take the appropriate tests.

  • OHDeutscheKlezmerRebel

    Just as I thought. It is highly unlikely that this guy has any Negroid in his gene pool. Libtards love to think that there is so much Negroid ancestry amongst Whites, so that they can justify their bogus beliefs of Negroes being compatible with us. They forget that, until less than 50 years ago, miscegenation was illegal in most of the Southern states, and was viewed as abhorrent by almost all Whites until recent years.

    • Jack Burton

      It’s likely that it’s an overestimation, a misgrouping. However it’s also likely that he does have some since it is detected.

  • OHDeutscheKlezmerRebel

    That issue is a different ball of wax. Many German Jews became baptized as Christians in the 1800’s, and turned their back on Judaism. It is certainly plausible that the ancestors of some of these folks were loyal to Germany during WWII, and sided with the Nazis. Since the Semitic people are Caucasian, though, it is unrealistic to compare the mixing of Teutonic and Semitic genes to Whites miscegenating with Negroes. The Negroid race has proven to be clearly inferior to our Caucasian race, so why would a White person compromise the gene pool of their offspring by miscegenating with a Negro? The Semitic people are not only Caucasian, but they have proven to be in no way inferior to the Slavic and Teutonic Europeans.

  • Ella

    I asked some Iranians and Syrians who immigrated into the US a few phenotypic questions. They said that it’s very rare to have red-heads in the Middle East nowadays. Being recessives, red hair and hazel green eyes tend to be witnessed more centuries back. It’s just very rare as they stated. I read Germanic tribes originated from ancient Persians, and they’re definitely not Semites. Red-haired people originated from Persia when the glaciers retreated slowly post ice age. In fact, red-hair was so prized at one time that the ancient Persians dyed their hair red for aesthetics.

    • M.

      Recessive genes appear less, but don’t disappear. They have as much chance to be passed on as the dominant ones. It just takes both parents to have them, and pass them, for the kid to display them. If no redheads are popping up in the Middle-East, it just means that they’ve lost the genes, or at it’s so few and far between that the chances of two parents holding the genes mating and passing their recessive parts of it to the child are extremely slim.

      Ancient Persians were Aryan. But they’re not anymore.

  • OHDeutscheKlezmerRebel

    I agree. Men like Jared Taylor represent us as intelligent, well read people with informed and intelligent reasons for our racial realist beliefs.

  • M.

    Arabs are not Caucasian. They have a lot of Negroid blood. They’re mixed.
    Arabs, Indians, today’s Persians, Turks, Pakistanis, Kazakhs, Tatars, etc, don’t belong to any race. They’re intermediate peoples. They have ethnicities of their own. But racially, they’re mixed.

    There are recognizable types of humans, like Caucasians, Mongolians, and Negroes. Most anthropologists (and people) call them “race”. The more PC call them sub-race, or whatever. But they’re still recognizable types in the human species, which differ in more than just skin color. How you name these types doesn’t really matter.

    You can still find redheads in North Africa today, especially among the few remaining purebred Berbers today. I’m a Berber myself and wouldn’t distinguish me from a Frenchman.
    The fair spots in North Africa are where you’ll most likely encounter the few redheads here.

    • Kblankenship7

      i think Rif people can have blond or red hair. Are the Rif included within the Berbers?

  • WR_the_realist

    It’s interesting that there’s no time the media is more interested in racial purity than when inspecting the ancestry of a racially conscious white person.

  • Massif1

    Wasn’t Larry David told that he has some Native American blood in him on George Lopez show? That explains lost tribes in the New World. (sarcasm)

    “When Larry David responded as if his 37 percent Native American results were a joke, his instincts were correct. The best known quirk of the test Lopez Tonight is using is its problem distinguishing between Asian and Native American (understandable, given that if you go back far enough, Native Americans originate from Asia), but a lesser known quirk is its tendency to assign Native American percentages to many of Iberian, Italian and Ashkenazi heritage – and Larry David is Ashkenazi. Sorry to burst any “imagine that!” bubbles, but more sophisticated testing would likely produce significantly different results.”

    • Jack Burton

      It’s not really an error as it is with the definition of “Asian.” The majority of that 37% is obviously West Asian, which is a Caucasoid group, just not European in origin.

  • Fr. John+

    My, aren’t we acting all ‘white supremacist’ about a… white supremacist? No, we ALL need each other. It is a racial holy war that is brewing, and the enemy is using everything in their perverted arsenal to ‘divide and conquer.’ IMHO, if this man dislikes non-Whites as much as I have come to do, over the years (and learned of the biblical rationales and historical, European praxis that exemplified it, prior to Papal Rome’s attempts at universalism masquerading as Christianity) he’s a brother to me. As are you, Grant, frankly. Though I think you are a bit too ‘surpremacist’ even for THIS ‘supremacist. LOL.

  • Kblankenship7

    I don’t have a problem with this concept. I think the Left use a sort of reverse “one drop” rule to try and convince people that if they have only a slight admixture of a given race they are “oppressed”, when most people don’t notice that the person is 1/16 Mapuche, or 1/16 Vietnamese.

    • Sick of it

      The modern affirmative action culture requires 1/8 or more foreign blood for them to care. Otherwise they consider one to be a white oppressor who needs to be destroyed.

  • Bossman

    I believe you to be correct. In America, if you look white then you’re white. If millions of white American have no black ancestry, many may have native Indian ancestry.

    • Blue-eyed Devil

      Many of my fellow Whites claim some Injun ancestry, usually Cherokee for some strange reason.

  • Bob

    Obama is half white but you would never know it. This Cobb guy is always going to be seen as white so even if he does have the 14% so what?

    • Jack Burton

      So what? 14% black admixture is so what? No, it is serious, that’s way above any standard of White racial purity. He would effectively be non-White, and based on past American law he would legally be black. However I doubt the validity of that claim to begin with.

      Here’s a simple way to prove your Whiteness, other than genealogical research, spend $99 at the 23andMe website and order a kit, it’s really easy to do.

  • DiversityIsDeath

    Oh please, Craig Cobb is not 14% sub-saharan negroid. And Hitler wasn’t jewish either. The white-hating left loves to make those claims against White men, don’t they? The anti-whites think that by besmirching the racial identities of these proud, racially conscious White Euro Christian men that they are some how discrediting them. But if these allegations were true it would give MORE validity to the claims of Cobb and Hitler– not less.

    • Jack Burton

      LOL, whatever Cobb is has no bearing on Hitler, that makes no sense.

      It’s likely he does have some admixture since they’re detecting it, but 14% seems inaccurate.

    • OHDeutscheKlezmerRebel

      No Groid ancestry in Mr. Cobb, I agree, but I’m not so sure about Hitler not having any Jewish ancestry. He did have Black hair and was short in stature. Most importantly, though, huge numbers of German and Austrian Jews became baptized as Christians during the 1800’s, and proceeded to be Uber loyal to Germany. More than a few of the descendants of these converted Jews were ardently pro-Hitler during the war. It is readily possible that Hitler was an eighth Jewish, or maybe a quarter Jewish, and was well aware of this, but obviously would never have made such information public.

  • Blue-eyed Devil

    I sure I hope I don’t have any groid blood flowing through my veins. I’m half Italian and that’s not far from Africa. I’ll keep my fingers crossed.

    • I probably don’t, but does it really matter? Cops treat me like an n-word anyway once they run an NCIC check. A fallen elf is always an orc, no matter how he looks or dresses.

      • bigone4u

        Do you have the right to vote? If so, then get involved in the race for your county sheriff on the winning side. Make some friends among the deputies. Donate $250 to his campaign. Put signs out for your candidate. I’ve found that carrying around the business card of a deputy friend of mine helps a lot. Once cops know you have a cop friend, they defer to you.

        • My voting rights came back once I was released from supervision seven years ago. All I had to do was re-register at the department of motor vehicles. They send me a mail-in ballot. I vote anti-tax as if it is a religion.

          In Colorado an ex-con can vote again once he or she is off probation or parole. Only Florida and Kentucky forever bar convicted criminals from voting. I agree completely with the policy here; an ex-offender who has “gone straight” should be allowed to have a say in the running of our government, but not before all probationary conditions are satisfied. I disagree with Florida and Kentucky’s stance, but I don’t live there.

    • OHDeutscheKlezmerRebel

      I’m sure you are just fine. Most Italians are pure blooded European, and have historically been strong racial realists. These days, in fact, Italian Americans, as a group, seem to be more racial realist and pro White than most Whites, and more oriented towards heritage pride and preservation. I know many Italian Americans where I live, and most of them are strong racial realists who are very proud of their heritage, and do not mince words, when in private, about Blacks.

      • Blue-eyed Devil

        I was born and raised in northern New Jersey. Blacks wouldn’t dare enter Italian neighborhoods. They knew what would happen to them if they did. Italians are not afraid of blacks at all.

        • OHDeutscheKlezmerRebel

          Exactly!!! Being in North Jersey, you understand the Italian American culture. This is why Italian neighborhoods that stay Italian stay extremely safe. Good food, warm hearts, and Mia Famiglia all the way baby!!! I’m not Italian myself, but have many friends who are. Italian Americans are some of the most racial realist Whites out there. Darn good workers, a lot of respect for family and doing what is right, and know how to have a good time as well.

      • Jack Burton

        That’s a silly argument. Race realism does not equate to racial purity.

        In fact if you look at the correlation, ethnic chauvinism is negatively correlated with Whites. That’s why we’re in the situation we’re in.

        • OHDeutscheKlezmerRebel

          Race realism doesn’t always equate to racial purity, no, but a racial realist is not going to believe in miscegenation, and is likely to be from a family that also does not believe in miscegenation.

      • Jefferson

        Wrong, most Italians are not pure Europeans. Most Italians carry some genes from the Middle East and North Africa.

        It is very common in Hollywood for dark Italians to play Jewish roles, Arab roles, and even Native American roles.

        If Italians were all pure European, you would never see any dark Italians that look like John Tururro, Nicholas Turturro, Ralph Macchio, Tony Danza, Sylvester Stallone, Stanley Tucci, etc.

        All Italians would look like WASPs and Scandinavians of there was zero percent Middle Eastern and North African genes in Italy.

        • OHDeutscheKlezmerRebel

          Italians are Mediterranean Europeans. Tony Danza and Sly look pure Mediterranean European to me. I doubt they have any Negroid blood in them. I’m coming at this issue, though, with the assumption that Mediterranean Europeans are a sub-category of Caucasians, similar to Celts, Slavs, and Teutons, but more closely related to Arabids than to the aforementioned. Key point, to me, is that most Italians are pure Caucasian racially, pure Mediterranean European, and the culture they have created is European to the core. When I look at Tony Danza, Sly, or Buddy Valastro, I see a fellow European American.

          • Jefferson

            If a blond haired and blue eyed man impregnates a blonde haired and blue eyed woman, their kid would not come out as dark as Tony Danza and Sylvester Stallone. This is 100 percent fact.

    • Jack Burton

      Southern Europe is on average 2% sub-Saharan, so there is a chance.

      However there’s a big difference between 1-2% non-White admixture, which is typical for Europe, and 14% they’re claiming for Cobb.

  • Blue-eyed Devil

    His last name is Jewish.

    • Jefferson

      The vast majority Jews look physically Whiter in phenotype than George Zimmerman.

      So Jew genes are not the reason George Zimmerman has a Brown phenotype.

      The reason George Zimmerman has a Brown phenotype is because of his Peruvian mother.

      • Blue-eyed Devil

        OIC

      • Blue-eyed Devil

        Except for Adam Sandler.

        • Jefferson

          Adam Sandler looks Whiter than George Zimmerman. George Zimmerman is Triracial (Amerindian, Caucasian, Negroid) while Adam Sandler is a olive skin Caucasian who is no different than a Southern Italian or a Greek for example.

          I am pretty sure a DNA test would reveal that Adam Sandler is Whiter than George Zimmerman. Meaning Zimmerman would show a higher percentage of Amerindian and Sub Saharan admixture than Sandler.

  • Alexandra1973

    That’s an interesting link! You learn something new every day. I’ve found studying genetics to be rather interesting.

  • There goes my lunch.

  • HJ11

    Nonsense. You sound like a sissy boy.

  • D.B. Cooper

    So, these half blacks. They have to decide. Do they join their white half and occupy its lowest level, or do they join their black half and be the upper class?
    It’s a question of Miltonian proportions.

    • One of my big complaints about Colorado Springs back in the day was that it is a military town with not enough young women. I’m also not religious, so I didn’t want a churcher.

  • Sick of it

    I’m guessing DNA testing would show a lower figure. Folks weren’t always certain how much they had of what back then (especially with so many blacks having kids with whites under slavery).

  • Blue-eyed Devil

    Hussein hate whitey Obama is 50% white.

  • Blue-eyed Devil

    I’m going to be sick.

  • Blue-eyed Devil

    Wan’t Hitler part Jewish on his mother’s side?

  • Funruffian

    Despite her coloring, can you describe her physiognomy? Does she have a rounder face with broader cheekbones? Is her stature short and more broad than the average White. I knew a woman who was 1/4 Navajo. Although she was blonde, very fair-skinned and blue-eyed, she had Amerindian features: round face, her nose was a bit long and hooked. Her eyes also had an Amerindian shape.

  • Bob

    I agree. What I meant is how he is portrayed and how he portrays himself as black.

    • IstvanIN

      He looks like an American Negro, pure and simple. I wouldn’t want him for a son-in-law.

  • OHDeutscheKlezmerRebel

    I wish Blacks would just go ahead and blame the Arabs, and duke it out with them. We might get lucky, and the Arabs would exterminate the Groids for us!! I don’t think most of them would be afraid to bag themselves a few jiggaboos, as they haven’t been shamed and brainwashed out of standing up for themselves.

  • M.

    Yes, especially when you compare him to his full-blooded Negro half-brother.

  • ThomasER916

    Race only exists when it’s a tool to Destroy whites.

    Jews don’t count. It’s all Cultural Marxism.

  • Juan Outtamany

    I felt sorry for him

  • My sister’s eyes were originally brown, but turned to hazel and then green as she matured. Mine were originally blue, but turned grey. There are gold flecks that enlarge into streaks sometimes. My mother and my wife can each tell what I’m thinking just by looking at my eyes.

    “The eyes are the window to the soul.”
    –Matthew 6:22-23

  • IstvanIN

    The only one who maybe can pass is the blond in the first photo. The rest are BLACK. Period. I wouldn’t one to marry into my family.

    • Jack Burton

      You clearly are severely mentally handicapped. None of them can pass, not even close.

      • IstvanIN

        You are a rude peace of ………

  • IstvanIN

    I disagree, he doesn’t look half-white, he looks like an American black. Kinky hair, very broad nose, muddy complexion. He doesn’t have the refined features like some of the “bi-racial” girls above do.

    • Blue-eyed Devil

      His wife, Moochelle, is blacker than coal.

    • Jack Burton

      That’s what half-White looks like. You’ve been conditioned to think White admixture in blacks is normal for black.

  • Sick of it

    Uncle Ruckus on the Boondocks is quite hilarious as well.

  • Sick of it

    They wouldn’t want to know what’s in the background of many Europeans, let alone Americans. If a tribe with foreign racial genes lives among you for centuries and intermixture occurs, widespread impurity, even if miniscule, is a more logical reality than absolute purity all around.

  • Sick of it

    NSM types tend to be plants, controlled opposition, government agents, take your pick. It’s just not an American way to look at things. I’m not a fan of any type of socialism.

    • You forgot “plain-vanilla idiots”. I use Occam’s Chainsaw and never blame a conspiracy for what can be explained with stupidity.

  • Zaporizhian Sich

    Mongols mixed very little with Slavs, they usually killed every one they came across that weren’t sold into slavery, even infants. For every one that was enslaved, many more were killed. Their cruelty and sadism are why ethnic Russians generally do not like Asians to this day, even through there are some Eurasian people in Russia. Of course, the Slavs plotted and waited for their chance to overthrow the Mongols, and when the chance came the Russians in particular killed them in huge numbers. That was how Ivan the Terrible made a name for himself.

  • Jack Burton

    Based on his weird personality and the fact that he even chose to go on that idiotic Jerry Springer-like show I can believe it, but looking at him 14% seems implausible. One of his parental lines would be obviously Negroid.

    That show is full of nonsense and propaganda, so I don’t believe anything they say. They’ll lie just for the hell of it.

    He claimed he already did 23andMe, so he should already have the proof.

    Cobb could be a pathological liar, he certainly seems to suffer from a mental disorder.

  • Jack Burton

    Mixed-race Arabs did.

    • M.

      Did what?

  • Jack Burton

    You’re crazy, the exact opposite is true. Jews have higher admixture, including sub-Saharan ancestry, than Europeans, and Arabs have even more. Try reading DNA studies and educate yourself.

  • Jack Burton

    You sure pay an inordinate amount of attention to mulatto women.

    No, they’re not attractive, they just have more of a Caucasoid facial profile. Rather they’re just less ugly compared to fully Negroid women.

  • Jack Burton

    America used to have legal racial standards. The only exception was 1/16th, 6%, or less Amerindian was considered White. The one-drop rule classified any black admixture as legally black, non-White. Certainly 14% would qualify.

    Based on average admixture in Europe, I would say that anything over 2% black is arguably non-White.

    • Bossman

      And just who set those racial standards? I’m betting that science had nothing to do with it. Even Charles Darwin believed that the descendants of a Mulatto would be completely white after a few generations of white interbreeding. It is called reversal to ancestral type.

  • Jack Burton

    You’re a very confused person. No sane White person thinks quadroons are White.

    Based on all of these retarded comments on this website from people it’s likely the majority of you are part black.

    • OHDeutscheKlezmerRebel

      I agree. A quarter of one’s ancestry is significant. This would be one Grandparent. If Obama had a White wife, I surely don’t think any resulting children would be culturally White by any stretch of the imagination. If they looked more White than him, they would probably still have the Negro temperament with a good bit of intensity.

  • Jack Burton

    That doesn’t invalidate his opinions, but it certainly disqualifies him from being White if that’s true and totally changes how he is perceived.

    • Bossman

      By your kind of logic, any black man with more than 5% white in his background would no longer be black. So that would mean all the black leaders of the past were just imposters because they were not really black. Or do you believe that only white men need to be pure to qualify as white? What kind of science do you bring to support your beliefs?

  • Jack Burton

    Recessive traits don’t make mongrels White.

    • Zaporizhian Sich

      To many Ukrainians, this one and her children would be an abomination.

    • Bossman

      What kind of science do you bring to bear on this subject? Most children are never darker than one of the darker parent. When light-skinned Mulattoes interbreed with each other, their children always look like them.

    • Bossman

      The white race is the most mongrelized of all the races. They were the least isolated race. The best and the brightest of the colored races have always been interbreeding with whites.

  • Jack Burton

    Stop posting this garbage. Only idiots think this is some kind of a “win” for us.

  • Bossman

    Mohammed said that all men are brothers. Muslim Arabs did interbred with Sub-Saharan Africans. If the offspring had light skin and a straight nose and was Muslim then he would be considered Arab. Up until the 1930s, Arabs were still raiding Africa looking for pretty girls to populate the harems of the Sultans.

    • OHDeutscheKlezmerRebel

      If they were looking for “pretty” girls, what in blazes were they doing in Africa??

      • Bossman

        Perhaps there were not too many to be found but that happens to be fact of history. During the days of slavery, there was a rigorous selection process going on, any African girl considered “pretty” would not be shipped to the Americas but would take another kind of journey traveling East to the harems of the Middle East.

        • OHDeutscheKlezmerRebel

          To me, all Negresses are hideous. The very notion of intimacy with a Negress, to me, is as hideous as intimacy with a member of the animal kingdom.

  • These people are white by any useful definition. It’s a pity they’re Muzzies.

    • M.

      Yeah, but the main Berber groups remaining today aren’t that big on religion in general. Regardless of their racial composition.
      I don’t know about the Riffians. But I can speak about my group, the Kabyles: many of us are irreligious, and most Muslims only practice general things. They certainly don’t have the fervor most Muslims have. Mainly because they still view it as the religion of the Arab. Our women never wear the hijab for example. Pork and alcohol are a lot more tolerated. You can see some Yule logs being sold on Christmas, and a couple of Santas. In Arab-dominated cities, they would literally set him on fire if they saw a Santa in the streets.
      I’m atheist myself.

      Unfortunatley, only about 15% of us still looks completely European. Of which I’m part. Wherever that came from.

      • I think north African Kybeles are closely related to the Celts. I can’t prove it.

        • M.

          It’s possible. But most historians agree that the Nordic part of us descends from Vandals. It’s also what we were taught in school.
          And the Wikipedia article I’ve just checked seems in accordance with that:
          “North Africa (which is north Tunisia and eastern Algeria in the period
          of the Vandals) became a Roman province again, from which the Vandals
          were expelled. Many Vandals went back to Saldae (which is called today Béjaïa) where they integrated themselves with the Berbers.”
          (From the article “Vandal Kingdom”, subtitle “Conquest by the Byzantine Empire”)
          Béjaïa today is the second largest Kabyle city in Algeria.

          As for the Nordic part of the Chaouis, another Berber group, it probably came from both the Romans (who settled there for centuries) and then the Vandals, who came a little after that.
          (See “Timgad” if you want read more about the Roman city there.)

  • Chris Granzow XI

    He’d have to have at least two black great-great-grandparents….I call bs.

  • WASP

    The Negro will come out in the boy who looks White. I once observed a girl who looked White, but I could tell she had Negro in her only by her hairline. Caucasian hair doesn’t look like what was coming out at her roots even though the rest of her hair looked Caucasian. Negro ancestry is very hard to hide to those who know what European Whites should look like. Sometimes you can even tell by their finger nails.

    • M.

      Yes, or simply by their temper.

    • Jefferson

      That boy that you call a “Negro”, looks Whiter than George Zimmerman. So if he is “Black” to you, than George Zimmerman must be purple blue Black as midnight.

      • WASP

        Negro features in the little “white” boy will be evident later. I’ve stated before African ancestry is very hard to hide. In the White southern culture I come from neither that boy or George Zimmerman would ever be considered White.

  • OHDeutscheKlezmerRebel

    Nothing wrong with Italians having a little Arabid blood in them. Arab Christians are usually decent people. The Muslim religion is what makes Arabs crazy, not bad genes. Except, of course, for the Arabs who have significant Negroid admixture in their genes. Some of them are probably Quadroons if not worse, though, so I would just consider them Negroids.

  • M.

    I don’t know about the black blood, but yes many have traces of Amerindian ancestry. Speaking of Ang. Jolie, Brad Pitt has some Native ascendance too. But it barely shows on him. Same with the others.
    But blacks… I don’t think so. The mixed almost always end up with blacks, not with whites. Most of the mulattos to this identify more with the black community than with the white.

  • M.

    Alright, let’s cut the bull: if you’re, say, 95% White, then you’re White. When you’re 5% black, then there’s nothing black about you anymore: be it temper, skin color, skin thickness, bone structure, expected IQ, hair texture, etc.
    Your children even more so. And their children even more. At some point, they’ll be 0.5% black, and calling a person like that “mixed-race” is absurd.
    The quadroons and octoroons can still get back in line, provided their descendance doesn’t miscegenate again. Their non-white ancestry will be diluted out of existence with the passing generations.

    Someone is mixed-race when they’re between 25 and 75% White/non-White. Below or above that, they belong to the closest race, and they can get back in line.

  • OHDeutscheKlezmerRebel

    It saddens me to see folks on here attacking your proud Sicilian heritage. Your Sicilian heritage is European to the core, and White to the core. These days, Southern Italy is known for being more racial realist than Northern Italy, probably due to greater proximity to the Muzzies across the water from them, and knowledge of just how different things are across the water. Where I live, there are many Sicilian Americans. I love the cultural imprint they have left. Great Pizza shops and restaurants, emotionally warm and caring folks who would give you the shirt off of their back, provided that you truly deserve this. Most Sicilian Americans are still racial realists. The old generations are major racial realists.
    I’m not Sicilian or Italian descent myself, but have never had anything but good experiences with the many folks I have known of Italian descent, and especially Sicilian descent. I’m an eighth German Jewish myself, my Great Grandma was born of German Jewish immigrants who had converted to Christianity in the U.S. My Great Grandma was a lifelong Lutheran, and was pro Hitler during WWII. She ended up marrying a blond haired man of German descent, but was always self conscious of her jet black, wavy hair and brown eyes. People frequently thought She was Italian. Over the years, She made friends with many Italian ladies, and learned how to cook some of the good Italian dishes. Italian cooking became a hobby for her. To sum this up, I wish AmRen could truly become a place where we espouse Pan-European solidarity. What made America great was the melding of European cultural influences in an all White racial milieu. Places in America that have been almost entirely White but very Pan-European have always been great. Pittsburgh, one of our Whitest cities with the expected low crime rate, has always been very Pan-European. Buffalo, NY, also very Pan-European, also had very low crime before the Black population grew, and also was a very good place to live.

  • I bet I get red from the sun way more easily than they do, as a “white” person.

  • OHDeutscheKlezmerRebel

    I’ve known many Jewish females in my life. She does look Ashkenazi, yes, but is awfully low IQ for a Jewish lass. Most Jewish lasses are pretty brainy, and will enjoy some good joking around or some interesting and spirited debate on an interesting topic, but would find Roseanne quite repulsive. Maybe a good joke about Roseanne asking The Wizard for a brain, and some tact, would be made.