Diversity Is Not a Catholic Value

Wolfgang Grassl, Crisis Magazine, November 26, 2013

Diversity is a modern shibboleth. It has long become the secular creed of the United States, and in no area is it celebrated as religiously as in academia, mostly as a substitute for true religion. It has now finally invaded universities that by name are still Catholic. Under the pretext of diversity, proponents engage in a frantic drive to replace the traditional curriculum with “ethnic” or women’s or “gender” studies; they observe Kwanzaa; they “include” homosexual students and faculty; and they cultivate their self-defined cultural and other “identities.” A veritable cottage industry has sprung up, with diversity “studies,” diversity advisors, recruitment programs for “diverse” students, sensitivity training to overcome the “essentializing” and “homophobic” tendencies of all males, and many more delights of this sort. Every academic around the country can easily add examples. I certainly can from years of experience at a college that still identifies itself as Catholic yet remains practically indifferent to the deposit of faith, the teachings of the Church, and the Catholic ethos.

And here arises a first problem with diversity as a regulative principle. No individual can be diverse, but only a collectivity. For logical reasons, it is impossible to recruit more “diverse” students, for no individual is diverse from himself or herself. Basic statistics informs us that only the standard deviation of some variable describing a group such as a student body, city, or nation can be greater or smaller. For any given population, increasing “diversity” then simply means replacing some members by others with different characteristics. Diversification always implies losers, namely those members in the middle who have so far defined the standard. It produces flatter distributions. In populations that are not growing, it is a zero-sum game, a simple substitution of members, as in ethnic cleansing. It is an artificial and political move in opposition to natural justice and law.

The frantic quest for “diversity” is a deeply anti-Catholic impulse. It finds no support in Catholic moral and social teaching. There is no mention of diversity as a goal of Catholic life in the Catechism of the Catholic Church or in any of the pastoral, moral, or social constitutions and encyclicals before and after Vatican II. Diversity has never been advocated by the great thinkers of the Church, who have instead preached unity. And there is a good reason for this glaring absence: Catholics marvel at the natural diversity of God’s Creation, at the difference in people, animals, landscapes, plants, and languages. They want to preserve as much of this diversity as is possible, because it enriches all of us. But they will resist disturbing the order God has willed for the world. Erecting skyscrapers in the Sahara Desert, crossbreeding species, developing artificial languages, dying our hair green—all of these increase diversity, but at what cost? Artificial diversification drives out the natural diversity of God’s very good Creation. Enticing students of a particular race from a distant big city to move to a small rural one, or making every effort to prioritize gay and lesbian candidates for faculty positions, does not exactly exemplify the improvement of the world to which Christians are called.

The destructive quest for artificial diversification is an outgrowth of the scourge of the twentieth century—the all‐pervasive creed of relativism. If there are no truths to be known about man, physics, biology, society, or God, if everything is a matter of perspective, of opinion, or of individual feeling, then increasing diversity indeed makes sense, for in a heap of different stones one is more likely to find a gold nugget. And this still is the battle cry of most diversity propagandists: it supposedly enriches a group just like the admission of more opinions gives us a greater chance of finding the truth. But are they right? They err, of course, in assuming that truth in science or about life arises somehow randomly, if they are willing to admit the possibility of truth at all. {snip}

Thus the quest of diversity is really a political stratagem to impose an anti-Christian agenda. Mao Zedong’s 1956 slogan, “Let a hundred flowers bloom and a hundred schools of thought contend” stood at the beginning of one of the most brutal crackdowns on human freedom known in history. Not even a year later, millions of Chinese were sent to labor camps. Totalitarians want artificial diversity to obtain the streamlined thought and behavior of their choice, for their intention is not to foster greater variety but rather the ascendancy of a favored group or ideology. The same is happening in this country and elsewhere, with speech codes, thought policing, and punishments targeting those who do not support the politically correct diversity campaign. {snip}

The categories of diversity may change, but whatever the diversity du jour may be—at the moment it is homosexuality—there is no foundation for it in Christian thought, and particularly not in Catholic thought, which is by its very name “directed at the whole.” Ironically, Catholics can always claim to want more diversity than even the most obstinate diversity fanatic: we strive at a diversity of one, the most radical option, because we see each and every human being of whatever race, class, sex, or nationality as a God‐breathed individual: “There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is neither male nor female; for you are all one in Christ Jesus” (Gal 3:28). The diversity our superficial culture cherishes is one by groups alone, where some master thinker selects the category. Catholics, on the other hand, are committed to respecting the individuality of all persons, who are without exception created in God’s image and therefore enjoy a sacred dignity. Nonetheless, relativism (sometimes disguised as pluralism or whatever else) and group diversity are now the mantras of Catholic universities just as much as state institutions, and some Catholic universities actively strive to attract more gay and lesbian students, professors, and staff, provide public forums for them, and thus cause what canon law calls scandal. On the other hand, they contribute precious little to the New Evangelization, the project the Church regards as its most pressing task.

And this is the saddest aspect of this unnecessary and destructive ideology. Its propagators do not reveal simple joy in the wondrous multiformity of God’s Creation but a dogged determination to make the world conform to a standard that they, the enlightened and righteous few, have thought up. {snip}


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  • “They observe Kwanzaa”

    Black people don’t even observe Kwanzaa anymore, save a small handful of radicals.

  • JohnEngelman

    “Diversity is our strength,” has become a liberal dogma like, “Race is only a social construct,” and “Rape is about power, rather than sex.”

    Those who present these dogmas do not explain why they are true. They become angry if they are questioned. If they have power in a situation, they suppress the discussion.

    • gemjunior

      You’re right. So much liberal dogma that it’s orthodox and can’t be questioned. Like the old Inquisition would punish those who were even perceived of disobeying Catholic orthodoxy, we have our media and academia to punish us for questioning it – which could lead to us disobeying it. Instead, the constant badgering and limitless sloganeering seems to be driving away more people with each passing day.

  • Oil Can Harry

    Good piece. Recently some Catholic and Protestant clergy have come out for amnesty by falsely claiming immigration restriction is unChristian.

    What bears repeating is that for Christianity’s first 2,000 years no one, and I mean NO ONE, ever claimed the Bible decreed open borders.

    • NordicHeritage

      It has and always will be about money. Religion began when the first con man met the first fool and so it ever shall be with religion. Catholics and Protestants both are losing ground to a increasingly apathetic and secular population. Where can they get uneducated and religiously brainwashed people that’s close by, hmmm lets see latin america sounds about right. It’s all about filling up those seats and filling their dwindling coffers.

      • tlk244182

        Actually, I think the drivel coming from most pulpits today would only be palatable to someone with an ‘education.’ The natural man, for example, knows that homosexuality is perverse, and that outsiders must be regarded with suspicion if the tribe is to survive. And I’m still naive enough to think that it’s not about money, but rather about truth (capital T.) It only becomes about money after the money arrives. Only a wealthy church cares about money more than truth (John 12:5-6.)

        • Katherine McChesney

          My church is politically incorrect and it’s Bible based to it’s core, unlike the churches who are affiliated with the World and National Councils of Churches. It’s also a White church.

      • Anon

        An interesting project for you would be to study to see if your statement is true based on the study of history and civilizations. If true, then devout people are morons being taken for a ride and their civilizations should be weak and prone to falling apart. While, atheist cultures should be filled with open eyed, clear headed people with successful civilizations.

        Lucky you. Not only was an entire encyclopedia of such study assembled by the famous British historian Arnold J. Toynbee….”A Study of History”….12 volumes. But an abridged, 2 volume, summary, can be had for a measly $20 off Amazon.

        Hmmmm…..I wonder what the results of such an intense study of history, cultures, and RELIGION might find.

        I already know of course. Such matters are important with regard to issues of faith but that is a personal thing. With regard to issues like making the case for what is likely to lead to the extermination of our race vs its survival, it takes on a much more practical and pragmatic mean.

        My suggestion is this. What you think of the matter is irrelevant. What has happened before in human history is what will happen again in the future….both with regard to success…..and with regard to, ummm, failure.

        Those who study the past get to make an informed choice for the future…..with startlingly predictable results.

        • SFLBIB

          “Those who study the past get to make an informed choice for the future.”

          Let us hope so, because one cannot learn anything from the future.

  • Erasmus

    When two strangers meet they first try to establish what they share in common, not the ways in which they differ. Diversity only works among people who first share a basic commonality.

    “Celebrate Diversity!” is as ugly and dishonest a slogan as “Arbeit macht frei” and “Workers of the world, unite!” I look forward to the day when it will be relegated to the ash heap of history.

    • Nice Guy

      You’ll be dead by then.

    • Anon

      If you google “demographics cooper center dot map”, it will bring up an interactive map of race in the US, based on the last census.

      Play around with it. Alot of important information for any clear thinking person to make decisions on.

      But I want you to notice something specific. Not a single neighborhood, even down to the street level, in the United States, exhibits “diversity”, at all. The diversity issue isn’t, is it good or bad. It most certainly isn’t, under what conditions can it be a good thing or a bad thing.

      Diversity doesn’t exist. Look closer at that map. You can literally see racial boundaries at the street level. One side of the street lives one race. On the other side of the street lives a different race. If diversity even existed, at the very least, such boundaries would cross streets, zig zag around them. They don’t. Instead, if you are of the wrong race, you literally stay on your side of the street, lol.

      Hmmmm…..if I charted homicides in those neighborhoods, I wonder where they would cluster?

  • Spartacus

    “In populations that are not growing, it is a zero-sum game, a simple
    substitution of members, as in ethnic cleansing. It is an artificial and
    political move in opposition to natural justice and law.”


    Oh my God ! This guy is a nazi !


  • Funruffian

    Catholic schools and churches have recently caved into the PC conquest, unfortunately. Since the Catholic church has been under so much scrutiny in the last decade, they cannot afford to look prejudice or else be pilloried by the media.

  • Nice Guy

    May all the saints join the prayers of the Church Militant that the body of Christ will triumph over worldliness! Ave Maria, gratia plena…

  • MBlanc46

    The quest for diversity results from the economic globalization pursued by the corporate elites. In the US, it is also fueled by the ongoing racial conflict that has bedeviled our history. It has little if anything to do with epistemological relativism. Multiculturalism is an evil because of what it is, not because it’s associated with something that has become a bugbear for people with certain philosophical views.

    • Anon

      Really? Who are those corporate elites? Are they a large group of random people or a small group with specific characteristics (like religion, cough, cough, cough) in common.

      One last question. Back in his time, Henry Ford opined that less than 1000 people in the world were causing all the wars, economic crises and other problems in the world (heavily implying that a pile of 1000 heads of very specific people was the solution).

      Was he right, back then?

      Has anything changed?

      The problem is alot more specific, focused and easily defined than you imply.

      The problem isn’t really ideology so much as it is a few problematic psychopaths.

      • SFLBIB

        “Henry Ford opined that less than 1000 people in the world were causing all the wars, economic crises and other problems in the world…”

        This is interesting. I had never heard of this before and would like to study it more. Do you have any references? Thx.

        “Has anything changed?”

        I doubt it since there are more wars now than in his time.

  • Bill Moore


    “Catholic Charities” has been flying planeloads of Africans from Africa to the United States for two decades. Hundreds each week.

    They found that many of the Africans were found dead in the homes that they were placed in. The Africans were given houses or apartments, money, food, clothes and so forth. After a month, they were all dead.

    Then Catholic Charities starting putting someone in with them to show them how to use the toilet, how to use a bed, how to get water out of a faucet, how to get food out of the refrigerator and heat it on a stove, and so forth.

    Why not just leave them in Africa?

    Just My Thoughts,
    Bill Moore

    • mobilebay

      Since we seem to have to support the world finanacially, it’s a bit much to have to babysit their people here too.

  • Critic_of_Leviathan

    “I saw the curse pronounced by Noah upon Ham moving toward the latter like a black cloud and obscuring him. His skin lost its whiteness, he grew darker. His sin was the sin of sacrilege, the sin of one who would forcibly enter the Ark of the Covenant. I saw a most corrupt race descend from Ham and sink deeper and deeper in darkness. I see that the black, idolatrous, stupid nations are the descendants of Ham. Their color is due, not to the rays of the sun, but to the dark source whence those degraded races sprang.”

    -Blessed Anne Catherine Emmerich

  • itdoesnotmatter

    Pope Francis publicly kissed a koran. Though not a Christian, I still believe this obscene act makes His Unholiness a traitor to all of Christendom.

    • gemjunior

      Yes, so did John Paul. Totally insane and breaking a commandment. Our Lady of Fatima: “and the third secret my child is that Satan will enter into my sons church” and control the highest clergy. He doesn’t prevail in the end. The Catholic Church was betrayed and undermined by Vatican II heresies, which unleashed all this insanity.

      • itdoesnotmatter

        I believe Christianity has run its course as a religion. That’s not a popular view, I realize, but there it is. I will fight with you to defend your beliefs, but as a Zen Buddhist who loves her country for what it once was.
        Not for Islam, of course. It is death and destruction everywhere it infests.

        • ShermanTMcCoy

          You might be right about that. Unfortunately, when people believe in nothing, they’ll believe in anything. Nature abhorring a vacuum and all that.

          If the “christian” West believes that there is nothing worth preserving, greed and multicultural fairy tales lead to invasion and the destruction of the culture.

          • itdoesnotmatter

            Do you have actual evidence suggesting we need religion to tame the unthinking, unethical hoards of barbarians? Do you think they would go wild if not for the calming influence of religion to fill the void?
            I’ve not come across evidence to support that.
            For the record, I am not a dogma bound Buddhist.
            It’s possible no such person as Gautama actually existed, or if the Dharma was, as all spiritual paths, invented by those who needed what it had to offer.
            If someone told me tomorrow that Buddha never existed, I would still be drawn to it a as a vehicle for self-discovery, meditation, and introspection into the nature of things “as is.”

          • ShermanTMcCoy

            No, but I’ve often bought about just that question you raise. White people need something behind which they can unite. Historically, Christianity was the uniting factor among Europeans against the invading hoards of muslims. I don’t think that’ll work today, nut we surely need something.

            If I were to believe that there had never been a Christ who had risen from the dead, I would ignore everything about the religion based on His teachings. Why bother? Anyone who went around proclaiming to be God in the flesh would have to be mentally ill.

            But that’s just how I see it.

            As far as being dogmatic goes, probably one of the most wonderful folks I ever knew was an atheist, who died far too early. I pray for him in death as I prayed for him in life. I wish he had converted, but I also believe that God is just.

        • tlk244182

          “….run its course….” You’re not the first person to say that. But your handle ‘it does not matter’ is a theology that runs its course as soon as it is uttered, it seems to me. And correct me if I’m wrong, but Buddhists aren’t supposed to ‘love’ anything.

          • itdoesnotmatter

            My handle refers only to anonymity, which I maintain on these sites because of my profession.
            You may be interpreting the moniker metaphysically, which I find quite interesting. You are right, once it is uttered, it floats away into meaninglessness itself, as all things must, in a world of impermanence.
            Loving kindness or the Pali word “metta,” is a huge part of Buddhist practice. It is not an easy path. We must begin with the love of ourselves before we can extend it to others. I didn’t realize how difficult this was until I attended a month long silent retreat devoted to metta meditation and teachings.
            Metta/love does not imply ownership or attachment to beings for sustenance and identity.
            It is the priceless treasure that enlivens and brings one into intimacy with oneself and others.

          • Jackryanvb

            Know any White racially conscious women of child baring age? I’m late 40s, healthy, rather wealthy, athletic, a good partner dancer. I’m having zero luck with women besides high end escorts, and when you are paying $500 an hour for the service “luck” doesn’t have much to do with it.

        • gemjunior

          Yes, it most certainly has run its course. Jesus actually prophesied that when he returned to the world he would find no faith. It is all because of the desire of treasonous Catholic clergymen who lacked faith and were more consumed with appearing to be “relevant” and current “with the times”. They imagined that they’d be more popular but instead the faithful left the church en masse and so did clergy (for example, my aunt married a former priest from Germany in 1972) – the only clergy we can get now are unintelligible Africans and Indians. All because the wrong cardinals and bishops got power and dissolved any vestige of the Church Militant, which was an important sign to the people of the church. People need to feel that there is an organization prepared to stand up for them, not to care what any other religion says. Before Vatican II, the Jews were prayed for at the end of every mass – that they would accept Jesus Christ as their Savior. Sure they complained but still they were prayed for. Complaints fell on deaf ears because the church was filled with strong belief, tough men rather than a bunch of people-pleasing fairies that are there now. And when Satan was enthroned in the Chapel of St. Peter and Paul by a body of renegades who only pretend to be cardinals, satanic pedophilia was encouraged as it’s the culmination of satanic sacraments such as murder and suicide etc.

        • Katherine McChesney

          Actually, the church will go underground as the result of persecution and it will thrive.

          • itdoesnotmatter

            Katherine, that could prove to be a mistake. Where would that leave a race realist conservative atheistic Buddhist shunned by literalistic Christians?
            I believe it imperative that racial realist, non-liberals take care that sectarianism not subdivide us. I can foresee that happening when around born again, literalistic Christians. They preach in no uncertain terms that failure to accept their Savior condemns one to eternal damnation and the lake of fire.
            Having been born, christened and schooled by the [then conservative] Christian Church, I know its history, dogma, and the Scriptures, in fact, nearly memorized it all to be chosen “best in the class.” That comes in handy. I can deflect irksome in-your-face attempts to convert me by diplomatically introducing doctrinal points that most strident my way or the highway born agains have never learned.
            Example of pathological sectarianism: in my home town, Nazarenes will not allow the annual Messiah to be sung in their church because many in the community chorus are LDS. That’s division, in my view, and it will kill us if we don’t all come together in the common knowledge that cultural Marxism is intent on bringing us down.

          • Katherine McChesney

            The church would be DRIVEN underground. Sorry, I could’ve worded it better.

          • itdoesnotmatter

            What is, in your view, the church?

        • [Guest]

          If an “obscene act” such as kissing a Koran is un-Christian, then can that act also be an indication that Christianity has “run its course,” especially given that crucifix-kissing, self-proclaimed holy men have committed all manner of obscene acts for hundreds of years?

          • itdoesnotmatter

            I don’t understand your question, Guest. You seem to be including multiple elements that do not necessarily connect. Might you try rewording it?

          • [Guest]

            No, the question is well put.

          • itdoesnotmatter

            Sorry so late to answer this question.
            The world church views the Pope kissing RC icons as a ritualistic act intended to reinforce and sanctify Christian ideology.
            But the Pope kissing a book that mandates death to the “infidel?” An infidel is a Christian, Jew, Protestant, Buddhist, Sikh, any ideology that is not Muslim. It’s not a stretch to conjecture that by this act, the Pontiff is co-signing Islam, a bearded political ideology whose core dogma demands jihad.
            I feel obliged to extrapolate that this and other forms of pandering to Islam potentially spells death to Christianity, watering it down to the point of meaninglessness.

          • [Guest]

            I agree concerning Muhammadanism. But to suggest that Christianity has run its course because a pope kissed a Koran is tantamount to saying that law enforcement is effete because someone wearing the uniform of a policeman jaywalked.

            When someone who professes to hold to a given belief system violates the tenets of that system, his act says nothing about the condition of the system.

          • itdoesnotmatter

            The Pope is not just someone .
            While I see your point, I was taking it to a broader, more global perspective.
            As a student of the buddhadharma, I do not have a dog in this race, but do honor and respect theism/Christianity as the religion of our Euro founders.
            That the United States of America’s Islamist president insists Christian icons and pictures be covered when he speaks at a Catholic University is insulting/marginalizing the faith of our fathers on a grand scale, in my belief. Just as I am put off by the Pontiff who represents global Catholicism kissing a document written by a debauched pederast who advocated violent death for all those who do not buy into its dogmatic content. Cognitive dissonance in both cases.
            Neither persona is functioning at the level of a jaywalking policeman, in my view.

      • Katherine McChesney

        Both popes are and were false Christians.

  • NordicHeritage

    I wish people would just lose the superstition and religiosity and embrace reality. Being a cultural christian is fine with me but taking all this bible stuff as literal is just crazy. It’s just like the multiculturalists believing that if we all were just one race then somehow all the world’s problems would disappear. Both the fundie christian and the multiculti are deluded into thinking that their dreams are reality when they so obviously are not. Lets just all embrace reality for what it is not what we want it to be. Until racially aware whites learn to shake off this superstitious mumbo jumbo they will never be taken seriously by the public at large in a increasingly secular society.

    • ShermanTMcCoy

      Seriously? You are entitled to your own beliefs, but calling people crazy because they believe something that most of the Western world has believed for centuries seems senseless to me.

      • NordicHeritage

        People believe in multiculturalism and they are crazy as well. Just because a mass of people believe in something without evidence is no reason to follow it.

        • ShermanTMcCoy

          Yeah, I’m not going there. I enjoy discussing issues with atheists who have more to offer than, “you’re stupid because you believe in the invisible spaghetti monster in the sky.”

          However, you might be able to make a good case for the logical disconnect between the traditional Christian belief that “all men are brothers” and the obvious sub-humanity of blacks (and all that entails from an evolutionary perspective). Open minded Christians like me are still struggling with that one. If you have something to offer besides ridicule, I’m all ears.

    • Eagle_Eyed

      Why is it that only until recent times (that is when the West began to lose its “superstition”) we’ve seen such a rapid loss of white racial consciousness? Secularism is suicide.

      • ShermanTMcCoy

        Sure enough. “Christianity” without absolutes = Multiculturalism.

      • Brian

        The secularization of the West happens to coincide, more or less, with the age of mass travel by plane, train, and automobile, and the era of globalization, with capital seeking cheap labor wherever it may be found (itself enabled by cheap transport). I suspect the travel and globalization lead to immigration and loss of racial consciousness more than secularization does.

    • tlk244182

      Divorced from ‘superstition and religiosity,’ I dont find a reality worth embracing. For me, (Catholic) Christianity is what makes life worth living. Otherwise, life is merely a ‘tale told by an idiot, etc.’

  • ShermanTMcCoy

    Every Friday is black when you are.

  • emiledurk16

    This is obviously not the same Church which cohered Europe after the Roman collapse.
    It embraces and encourages that false ideology of “diversity”. (It pains me to even type the word)
    Multiculturalism, egalitarianism and diversity compose a religion of its own, which punishes heretics like us not at the stake but with the threatened termination of one’s job. (Is imprisonment by the thought police far off?)
    Culture is still our redeeming value and the polytheistic theologies of the pagan Greek classical period and the deities of the Nords suits me fine without the nitpicking of their anthropomorphism or actual existence at Olympia.
    Science and theology can coexist (Isaac Newton) and are the least of our worries as we brace for the travails approaching us.

  • Jackryanvb

    Agreed. The Tower of Bable story works well for us, also what happened to Sodom and Gamora. But many other parts of the Old and New Testament don’t work well.

    That fairy tale about God Parting the Red Sea to save God’s Chosen People, well “we ain’t God’s Chosen People” so we have more in common with the Egyptians chasing the tribe across the floor of the Red Sea!

    (How come there wasn’t any problem with mud?)

    • Read Romans 11

    • OTOH, that legendary missive (*) could just as easily as much of an implicit commandment for nationalism and particularism as the Tower of Babel story. Divine intervention forced Pharoah to free the Hebrew slaves in Egypt. So what did they do? They didn’t stick around in Egypt to make it more vibrant and diverse, they didn’t spout stupid slogans like ODIOUS (Our Diversity Is OUr Strength), they didn’t hang around and help form and sponsor outfits like UCPLC (Upper Cataract Poverty Law Center) and ADL (Amenhotep Defamation League), they didn’t plop Museums of Tolerance in Karnak and Memphis, they didn’t demand that Egyptians allow the black Nubians to integrate into Egyptian society (the Egyptians did that damage to themselves by themselves), and they didn’t file lawsuits in the spirit of the fanatical enforcement of the mythical doctrine of separation of Amon-Re temple and state.

      They got up, left Egypt and went back to where they came from, where they thought they were destined to be all along. One particular group of people destined for a particular parcel of geography, leaving another particular group of people be in its own real estate. Sounds sorta like blood and soil nationalism. We should look into it.

      (*) – Legend, because real archeology cannot establish anything other than a trickle of random escaped slaves out of Egypt meeting up with rebellious southern Caananites to form the ancient Judeo-Hebrew people, nor can find evidence that there was any such identifiable group of people before that.

  • Jackryanvb

    I’m about to concede defeat with American Lib/Marxist/Neo Conservative/Libertarian Anglo American society. Could you give me some suggestions for finding Whiter, more traditional Hispanic women?

    I’m healthy, rather wealthy, good athlete, good partner dancer -I see zero bridal prospects or really a decent date with White American women here in Chicago.

    Just finished a nice Thanksgiving party with my brother who has one married daughter and 6 handsome, athletic sons – none are married or have girlfriends.

    I think it’s not just my imagination, I truly believe that none of the University of Chicago undergrad/grad White women have ever had a one on one date, much less a boyfriend or husband.

    I live in a cursed American society where the women want to look and act like Eleanor Roosevelt, Hillary Clinton or Elena Kagan!

    • SFLBIB

      You might try the Catholic Alumni Club. Caveat: you have to be a college grad [some chapters count professional experience] or a RN and be eligible for marriage in the Catholic Church.

    • Ella

      Where were you guys from AmRen when I dated some 15 years ago? I met some so-called conservative men but they wanted to drink with no long-term ties or lived for materialism. I only wished I met some down-to-earth men years back; my life would have been better. We are so spread out across America. To mention, many women start to settle down in their 30’s as they begin to worry about ageing effects.

      • Jackryanvb

        I highly suggest we promote White forms of partner dancing – Texas two step, CEROC, ballroom dancing. It’s something most women like, the man leads, the men and women don’t fight or watch bad TV or stress about bad politics.

        There are few if any other activities I can say where this is true.

    • itdoesnotmatter

      I live in a cursed American society where the women want to look and act like Eleanor Roosevelt, Hillary Clinton or Elena Kagan!

      Though I have succeeded in a male dominated profession, up front and on the record, I do not aspire to look/act as any of the she-males you cite.

  • Alexandra1973

    Yeah but look who’s shipping in los mexicanos.

    I find it interesting that the most Catholic states are the bluest states. I’m thinking about the New England states.

  • Jackryanvb

    We have to stop being so nice, fair and reasonable. Our enemies are not nice and fair. If any Christian Church becomes anti White, for open borders immigration, they must be identified as “Anti Christ” promoter of all corruptions like homo marriage equality, man boy sex, Marxism, Liberation theology, tolerating hard porn, sado masochism, you know….

    Satan, the Devil.

  • A real disappointment, that one.

    The only difference between Pope Francis and the standard libertarian we just love so much is that the former is attacking capitalism while the latter is claiming that capitalism is what will turn third world people into first world people.

  • Alexandra1973

    Islam was created by Augustinian monks. Catholicism for the Arabs. Muhammad’s first wife Khadijah had been a nun.

    • Katherine McChesney

      Thank you Alexandra for bringing this up. I used to listen to a man named Eric Jon Phelps who revealed to me the true story of Islam. He used to speak of a former Jesuit who worked in the Vatican archives for Cardinal Bee and he was the one who brought the truth forward about the true origin of Islam.

  • Katherine McChesney

    The New World Odor is wholly anti-Bible. It seeks to bring all races together to become one race of people with one language, one agenda.

  • John K

    Liberals seem to have targeted the Catholic faith the hardest of all Christian sects. They’ve also been somewhat successful at infiltrating the churches, installing homosexuals into the priesthood; this is why the child molestations are happening.

  • Anon

    Not sure where the catholics are coming from. They turned their back on Christ over a thousand years ago in return for patronage and literal cash from their pagan patrons. The vast majority of people of faith, separated themselves from catholicism under penalty of death, for the “crime” of translating the Bible into English. The US was founded by these fugitives. This completely changed the nature of Christianity as it was discovered upon reading such translations that the catholics were LYING about almost every important part of Christianity.

    The catholic church has been slowly dying ever since. But that death spead of dramatically the last two generations as, first, the catholics were massively infiltrated by atheists who intended to usurp the institution in support of world wide communism. Then, the real fun started as such wicked men started raping young boys in their new positions as phony priests. At this point, I doubt ANY religious leader in catholicism believes in any way in God. Their god is communism and their day to day life isn’t about service but in finding the next little boy to sodomize.

    Don’t get me wrong. MANY churches had been infiltrated and now serve toxic liberalism. But, at least those involve pretend to love Jesus. The catholics stopped pretending hundreds of years ago and are now openly satanic. To accuse them of embracing diversity is a little like chastising a serial killer for using foul language.

  • dd121

    Makes you wonder. I always thought that when somebody said “Is the Pope Catholic” it was a rhetorical joke. Well, this guy certainly doesn’t act like a traditional catholicl Well, is he?

  • Randall Ward

    Well, baptists are conservative if you get tired of the catholic church. Both are approved by God.

  • Jackryanvb

    You sound like a solid, good guy and we’re pretty much in the same boat except you speak Spanish and have something of an out in the persecution of straight White males in Obama’s, Eric Holder’s Rachiel Madow Soviet America.

    Want to exchange Facebook friends?

  • Emperor Naked

    Nice try, but I don’t buy it for a minute. “Catholic” itself means “universal.” Christianity at its root and intent was meant to encompass through worldwide witnessing leading to conversion, every race and subgroup ethnicity in the world. Even more, all denominations have been actively working in non-white world wide countries for centuries and American groups for decades, often creating asylum advantages for their converts as a new religious minority. A couple of people (really is what it comes down to) that think they can successfully retain race realist or race bias and be Christians are kidding themselves and relying on the established mechanism within Christianity that allows eventual approval for almost any act or even outlook, as long as it is structurally and politically loyal. This is the chief feature of that religion that guarantees that Christians are and always remain instant hypocrites and unable to hold their own in any debate that dispenses with dogma as a forgone conclusion. In other words, they loose every time, except to themselves.

    • NordicHeritage

      You can’t argue with religious idealogues, they just down vote your comments and whine to moderators until your comments are deleted.

    • Ezra Pound

      “Christianity at its root and intent was meant to encompass through worldwide witnessing leading to conversion, every race and subgroup ethnicity in the world.” Yes, but this doesn’t imply that there is general “equality” of the people it seeks to encompass. That is something that YOU read into it. The CC teaches that while we are all “equal” *before God*, in the material world we are not all equal and that different peoples and different races, cultures, societies and civilizations are NOT equal, but radically different. The CC is the ONLY religion that explicitly acknowledges the inherent differences between cultures, races and nations and treats them according to those differences. That is one reason why the Church has NEVER claimed that one type of government is good for all peoples at all times or places. The Church teaches that some peoples are qualified to have democracies and Republics, but it also teaches that some peoples are not capable of self-government and therefore should submit to other forms of government more suited to their racial and culture make-up. Name me one other religion that teaches us to recognize differences and treat ACCODRING TO DIFFERENCES. What bugs me so much about WN’s, “Odinists,” “Pagans” and others is that they totally misrepresent the CC as egalitarian when it is manifestly not (of course, the Post-conciliar church is another story, the multicultists, Jews and their helpers have been in control of the Church for several decades – but that doesn’t say anything about orthodox Catholicism as such.) The Church is “universal” and within that universality many hierarchies and distinctions are to be found. It is like saying that the US military is an “egalitarian” institution because all of its members are in the US Army. Yes, the US army demands that all of its recruits submit to the same rules, but within that “sameness” there is a highly structured hierarchy of differences – differences in rank, privilege, power, intelligence, etc. Just because the CC seeks to embrace all people doesn’t mean that it will treat all those people as if they were the same or equal, except in a few very specific, limited ways.
      “people… that think they can successfully retain race realist or race bias and be Christians are kidding themselves.” This is only true if you mean “race realism” to be some sort of fetish or religion which must be placed above everything else, including morality. If you equate “morality” with “race realism” then you are not a “race realist” in the common sense, but a “race religionist” in the sense that “race” is your religion. In the real world, “race realism” is just another name for “truth” and there are many truths that must be taken together and ranked. “Race realism” is an important truth, but not the highest, most all-encompassing one that you wish it to be. You attack one “religion” only to replace it with a new religion of your own devising. I think the one that has been around for 2000 years – the same one that BUILT WESTERN CIVILIZATION FROM THE GROUP UP (on the foundation of Greek philosophy, of course) – is the better choice than some fly-by-night, “we came from monkeys” cult that has no firm foundation history.

    • Katherine McChesney

      Everyone needs to distinguish between Roman Catholic and Catholic. If referring to the Vatican and it’s religion “Roman Catholicism” should be stated.

      • [Guest]

        Also, I notice that some people, when targeting Christianity, strike blows against Roman Catholicism, as if “Roman Catholic” and “Christian” were interchangeable. They’re not.

      • Emperor Naked

        No it doesn’t, and you aren’t the word monitor here. Nothing in the meaning between Roman Catholic and Catholic implies anything but Christianity as a planned amalgamation of Patriarchal Judaism and extant pagan religions, hence the intended use of the word, catholic = universal. It was set up to appeal to pagans so that conversion would be easier. The big trump card that they held was that while popular religions like Sol Invictus and Mithraism did not allow women to participate, Christianity did and so women became the actual vectors of the disease. Constantine was actually an Arian Christian, but likely converted on his death bed by his wife. similarly, Clovis’ wife convinced him and won once he realized the great advantage of Roman support, etc.

        I read your other deleted post on this thread. I’ve been posting here since at least 2006 (in various guises) and YOU are the newcomer. I’ve watched people like you come and go. The chief feature of the temporal enthusiasts is that they appear to have emotional/mental issues because they often make huge assumptions and blurt out their frustrations when they are over their heads as you did. They also often, like you, indulge in the most nonsensical conspiracy theories as people with very little actual knowledge and experience often do. I shot you down lately on several other threads, already. You’re child’s play for me. Yes, I am a non-believer and I do think that the Bible is the worst thing that ever happened to the West and to whites, and I can argue it very well. Islam may eventually surpass it, but that is another issue.

        Aside from that, I AM a race realist, but I am a realist first. You can’t be any other way and be genuine or even functional. The historical and naked fact is that Christianity, like all religions are built on myths meant to control the masses for political (and of course, economic control). Western progress has always been due to the far older Greek tradition of philosophical inquiry, not fearful, hysterical religions, which Christianity is perhaps the worst of all. It’s all about the fear of death, the fear of the world ending and the fear of facing life on your own. I do hate it for what it has done historically and what it continues to do even right now.


    “…a dogged determination to make the world conform to a standard that they, the enlightened and righteous few, have thought up.”

    Yes, and if we get any more diverse, we will all be wearing uniforms.

    “Diversity is diametrically opposed to quality.” — Dinesh D’Souza


    See my suggestion to “Jackryanvb” above.


    Have you considered the story of the good Samaritan? The Samaritans were not well-liked by the ancient Hebrews.

  • ShermanTMcCoy

    Works for me.

  • ShermanTMcCoy

    It does’t appear to me that anyone is questioning your credulity. The “anything” to which I refer is egalitarianism, or crony capitalism, or consumerism, etc. I don’t see how my belief in God affects you in the least. I wish you guys were tolerant of other peoples’ beliefs.

    My friend didn’t buy Darwinian evolution as an explanation for life as we see it, but surmised that we might have been planted here by extraterrestrials. Then again, I don’t know that it was a hard and fast belief. He also wasn’t the kind of guy to try to convert or criticize anyone else for their beliefs. We had a live and let live relationship. If I am praying to No One for his soul, that’s my business, isn’t it? You atheists would probably find a more interested audience if you were to stop the attacks.

    I also daresay that most Christians have differences of opinion as to what is essential and important. Like I said, if some guy went around proclaiming himself to be divine, and said that I would have to do certain things if I wanted to live forever in a paradise, and claimed that he would rise from the dead to prove his bona fides, and then DID NOT, I would feel free to disregard EVERYTHING he said. But, I believe that He did. Again, I don’t see how that possibly has anything to do with you.

    • [Guest]

      My experiences suggest that the secular commandment Thou Shalt Be Tolerant applies only selectively. Certain self-anointed groups—non-whites and non-Christians among them—are often exempt.

  • gemjunior

    They don’t explain why they are true because they CAN’T, because there is no validity to them.

  • Joanna Boese

    I have Black, Asian, Pacific Islander and Latino parishioners at my Catholic church. I’ve been dealing with a LOT of people who are failing to see where diversity is and claiming it’s not true. I think these people just want attention and to feel ‘special’…well, you’re doing it for the wrong reasons. And it is NOT helping the problem when you act like that.