Trooper’s Dashcam Captures Dramatic Moment Father Taking His Kids on a Road Trip Shoots Officer

Lydia Warren, Daily Mail (London), October 4, 2013

A dashboard camera in a state trooper’s car has captured the dramatic moment a father taking his children on a road trip pulled out a gun and shot an officer who then returned fire and killed him.

John Van Allen, 34, was driving with three of his children when he was pulled over on Interstate 84 east of Portland, Oregon by Trooper Matt Zistel, 26, for speeding.

But what was supposed to be a routine traffic stop soon escalated into violence when Van Allen emerged from the car and, despite Zistel urging him to get back inside, pulled out a gun.

The dramatic footage was released to The Oregonian after a public information request from the paper following the August 29 death.

‘Please sit back in the car for me, you were speeding,’ Zistel can be heard telling Van Allen. ‘Sir, get back in the car for me now. Sir, please get back in the car for me. You were speeding.’

But Van Allen moves quickly towards Zistel before shooting at him several times. He then moves around the police car’s hood, still firing.

After several seconds, he heads back to his car, a black Cadillac, and drives off as Zistel desperately calls for help.

‘Shots fired, I’ve been hit in the side, I’m okay,’ Zistel says. ‘Suspect left.’

Matt Zistel

Matt Zistel

Even though Van Allen was hit in the chest in the exchange of fire, he does not appear to be injured as he returns to his car.

Responding officers found Zistel suffering a non-life-threatening gunshot wound and came across Allen’s car on the shoulder of the freeway half a mile away.

He was dead inside, with a gunshot wound to the chest. Three of his five children – a 10-year-old girl and two boys, aged 13 and 15 –  were also at the scene but they were not hurt.

The three children were taken into the care of the Department of Human Services.

Zistel was treated for his wound and released. He has been on paid leave and will continue to be until he is well enough to return to work.

In a later investigation, Sherman County District Attorney Wade McLeod said that Zistel was justified in shooting Allen, The Oregonian reported.

Relatives said Allen, a father of five and an Army Reserve veteran who worked as a construction engineer between 2009 and 2012, was returning to his native South Carolina at the time of shooting.

He was caught traveling at 76 mph in a construction zone before he was pulled over.

His family said it was out of his character for him to pull a gun on an officer.

‘He would have never shot at a police official or anyone of the law,’ his cousin, Will Wright III, said. ‘He would not have missed the kill shot either.’


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  • Puggg

    “out of character”

    No, it’s in character. They can go off at any time.

    • Oil Can Harry

      The father reaches for his gun while announcing to his kids “Pay attention, y’all. Dis be how we sho nuff avoid a speeding ticket.”

      • 48224

        Well, at least now he has street cred.

  • The Final Solution

    Looks like the law of the jungle. Kill or be killed. Strike first or die trying. Leave your young to fend for themselves.

    • Whitetrashgang

      Well yes, and also the maternal society where blacks come from the woman do all the child raising and work, the men just go out and fight other men.

      • me

        What child raising? You are mistaken about that. A cat takes better care…

  • Andy

    ?! He was getting pulled over for *speeding* and decided to *shoot* at the officer?

    If he’s an engineer, it’s not just because he was dumb.

    Either he was committing some other crime or he wanted to shoot at cops/whites.

    • Rhialto

      Don’t underestimate the impulsiveness of the African male. If Van Allen heard about another Black doing what he die, Van Allen’s reaction would probably be “What a dumb ass!”.

      But he didn’t hear about it; he was it; and Allen’s 100,000+ years of jungle environmental conditioning took over.

    • me

      Ridin’ dirty.

  • Dubyasee

    Hollywood will make a movie about this. They will get Denzel Washington to play the poor martyred father of three, murdered for no reason, except racism, by a rampaging Ku Klux Klan Kop.

    • Oil Can Harry

      The screenplay will be written by Danny Strong and the film will be dedicated in loving memory of Trayvon Martin.

      • MekongDelta69

        No, no – the screenplay will be done by John Singleton, the black genius who said whites aren’t capable of doing a movie about blacks.

        • Katherine McChesney

          George Lucas will produce it.

    • ZeitTrash

      No, no, no!…Denzel Washington will play the cop and the black guy who got shot will be rewritten and cast as a white racist militia Tea Partier who was abusing and molesting his own children.

      Come on now, guys…You’re underestimating the rapacious perversity and evil of Hollywood and the media. 🙂

      • blight14

        Don’t you mean HollyVitz?

    • ms_anthro

      Judging by his picture, they’ll have Cheech Marin play Officer Zistel, the “White Hispanic” killer cop with ties to various neo-Nazi and skinhead organizations, all discovered by the heroic Morris Dees and his plucky sidekick, Tim Wise. Joan Walsh will have a cameo as the reporter on the scene.

  • sbuffalonative

    This is what you call Driving While Black. It’s no wonder cops pull their guns when they stop a black man.

  • capnmorgan5150

    Take a good look at this video, people. This is what we’re up against.

    • Raised Its Ugly Head

      The kids stayed in the car, which means the Zulu battle formation isn’t practice across all segments of the black “community.”

    • ms_anthro

      Bad aim and fatally poor impulse control? Encouraging.

  • Trevor Pilsbury

    Racial profiling explained.

    • me

      This should be shown at every police academy training session.

  • Spartacus

    “Them cracka’ poulease ofisa stop me cuz’ theyz rayciss . I SHOOTZ THEM RAYCISS !!!” .

    Does that sound unrealistic to any of you ?

  • HJ11

    Whites better wake up to the gene wars we are in. Too many Whites have been conditioned by the MSM with their sanitized reports and don’t understand that violent crime is not an equal opportunity employer and that they are being targeted because of their White skin.

    Wake up Whitey, or you may be the next victim. Don’t trust Blacks. Don’t let them get near you.

    • sbuffalonative

      I haven’t noticed the usual hysterical outpouring of the Congressional Black Caucus after the Naval Yard shooting. They have yet to issue a statement on the crazy black woman who thought President Obama was ‘sending her messages’. There’s been some grumbling over the police shooting her but I’ve seen video where they tried to stop her but she pulled away so they opened fire.

    • withcaution

      It’s not just the MSM, but churches, schools… anywhere you have an organization some reformer of public thinking rises to the top to “not trust your own eyes”.

    • Jesse James


  • bigone4u

    The dumb groid was willing to put his THREE chilins’ lives on the line to take out a white guy doing his job. This is another example that proves to me that groids do NOT care about their sprogs. When they demand better education, it’s not about their chillins’, it’s about them whining for something free from whitey.

  • disqus_Xz3UA6obwj

    One more black sociopath killed by his own stupid.

    • Raised Its Ugly Head

      Keeping it real makes a strong come back.

  • Raised Its Ugly Head

    Diversity gets pulled over for speeding and starts shooting to kill.z

    Isn’t that what you would do?

  • MekongDelta69

    “His family said it was out of his character for him to pull a gun on an officer. ‘He would have never shot at a police official or anyone of the law.'”

    So what does that mean ‘cuz’? That he would have NO problem shooting at anyone else??
    (I know, I know – another ‘aspiring’ rapper ‘needlessly and tragically’ gunned down by the usual ‘racist’ cop. Spare me.)

    His cousin said, “He would not have missed the kill shot either.”
    And I’m sure his cuz is pissed off that he missed.

    • redfeathers

      A friend said he was looking to turn his life around!

    • withcaution

      “He would not have missed the kill shot either.”
      What a bizarre statement to make. Sounds like warped thinking runs in the family.

      • me

        Typical Bantu logic.

  • Luca

    Perhaps the suspect believed that the officer was engaged in racial profiling and as this is the most heinous crime in the black universe, the suspect felt justified in attempting to kill the officer to prevent any further disrespect to any other black people.

    • Fighting_Northern_Spirit

      You nailed it. His body language is saying exactly that. “You dissin’ me ‘cuz I’m black!”

  • What a fine sense of proportion. It is much better to be shot dead in front of one’s kids than to pay a speeding ticket. The $300 or $400 for going 76 in a construction zone could have been spent on a gold toof, gnome sayin?

    • Luis

      Michael C. Scott, it never ceases to amaze me that, whenever a Bantu is shot and killed by law enforcement or a homeowner, while in the act of a crime; his/her family try to portray that person as being next to the Divinity. “They were good, they were without sin, they deserved to sit at the right hand of the Father”, etc.

      In BRA, you would be forced to worship Michael Jackson, Tupac Shakur and Whitney Houston as gods and goddesses, or else be labelled “racist”.

      • Not just the ones that cops have to shoot.

        Aspiring Rapper Arrested For Murder Of Aspiring Rapper

        ST. LOUIS, Mo. (FNN) – Nu’dandrifftavious Jones, a 19-year old aspiring rapper from St. Louis, has been arrested for the murder of Doodooquan Williams, 18, also an aspiring rapper from St. Louis. The murder happened at a home in the Fairgrounds neighborhood just north of Fairgrounds Park.

        “How could someone kill my baby?,” screamed Euquestrian Williams, 33, the victim’s mother, in an interview with Fake News Network. “He was a good boy, an honor roll student, a great athlete, who happened to fall in with the wrong crowd but was in the process of turning his life around. He was like the best son a mother could ever have, you know. And there he is, lying in a box, another victim of these streets.”

        La-a Jones, 33, the mother of the suspect, was equally as despondent in her interview with FNN reporters. “There was this here shooting, and this here boy got kilt, and then the police came around and arrested my baby boy for no reason. He don’t do no murdering, he’s a good boy, an honor roll student, a great athlete, who happened to fall in with the wrong crowd but was in the process of turning his life around. He was like a mother’s dream come true, know what I’m saying? And my baby is sittin’ in jail, another victim of these streets.”

        Nu’dandrifftavious Jones remains in the St. Louis City Jail in advance of a bond hearing tomorrow, when he is expected to be ordered held without bail.

        • Major

          Notice “mama” had to be 15 when she dropped him in a free emergency ward room?

        • Love the names!

  • Romulus

    Apparently it was in his character. Well, the good news, one good cop, one dead *****r.

  • The Final Solution

    I guess it was time for this one to self-destruct to fulfill the inevitable genetic outcome of his children being fatherless. Father of the year!

  • Global Minority

    Well at leat the cop survived and the guy is dead. No tax payer’s funds to house him in jail. And no its not out of charactor either for black men to do this. There is a real reason racial profiling is used because it saves lives and it works!

    • IstvanIN

      Now we are stuck with his kids, assuming they weren’t already on welfare.

    • I doubt profiling had much to do with it. It seems going 76 mph in a construction zone is plenty of reason to pull an idiot over, especially when he’s doing that with a car full of kids.

  • sbuffalonative

    Blacks in Oregon and Washington have been busy this year. I guess they’re not happy living in the white man’s ‘progressive’ liberal paradise.

    • seapeaMP

      The lack of sunshine most the year can get to many people, especially people who aren’t genetically adapted to the non-topical environments. A negro from S.C. would definitely have trouble with the N.W. weather. It’s a S.A.D. thing.

      “Anti-racist” is a code word for anti-White.

      • dumbfuckdemocrats

        It’s obvious that the weather in the Pacific Northwest is racist.

  • mgs166

    One down many more to go.

  • Germanacus

    Had the trooper been carrying a 40 instead of a 9, this perp would have dropped immediately. The .40 in a semi-jacketed hollow point has a high one-shot knock down rate.

    • leftists are delusional

      I am 99% certain Oregon State Troopers are issued Smith and Wesson M&Ps in .40 caliber.

      • Germanacus

        That’s good. They should be. If that is the case then the trooper was likely using FMJs (see my comment above). Even so, this is highly unusual. To be shot in the chest with a 40 using SJHPs then walk away from it is exceedingly rare. Almost unbelievable.

        • Germanacus

          Back in the 80s we were still transitioning from the .357 magnum revolver to high capacity 9mm semi-autos. This became a necessity because of black street gangs where you were likely to encounter several perps armed and possibly firing at you at the same time. The six-shot revolver needed to be replaced. The .40 caliber semi-auto came along later. It may be in police use much more commonly now. It should be. Its a great caliber.

          • I used to carry a Mauser M-85 (a Browning High-Power clone) in .41″ Action Express. Ballistics are virtually the same as for .40″ S&W. The magazines needed wider feed lips and held only nine rounds instead of 13. I used cast lead semi-wadcutters after polishing the heck out of the feed ramp with steel wool soaked in acetone.

          • Germanacus

            Interesting. The semi-wadcutter on bare skin can be very effective but if you ever have to shoot through a car door or a wall in a house where a 2×4 is hit first, well, you know what that means….

            I always carefully polish the feed ramp, slide grooves, and magazine lips on all the semi-autos I own. Using a good recoil spring can be important too.

          • I later wanted to go with 9mm Action Express, which is the .41″ AE case necked back down to 9mm. I did a lot of load workup for IMI on the original .41″ round, and they sent me several thousand cases.

            I got arrested by the feds before I could do any useful work on the 9mm AE, which is a bit better than .357″ SIG.

            Haven’t done any shooting since then.

        • leftists are delusional

          OSP issues JHP ammo, the last time I heard it was 180 gr Speer Gold Dot, they may have changed, but not to FMJ.

          There is no such thing as a magic bullet or caliber and nothing you can hold in one hand will stop 98% of bad guys with a single hit in the chest.

          There are many examples of bad guys taking multiple torso hits and remaining upright.

          17 center mass hits of .40 cal Ranger SXT:

          Another guy who kept up the fight. (VERY graphic image warning here) .40 cal hollow point loads

          .45 ACP 14 hits with 6 of them landing in the chest continues to fight.

          Another with .45 ACP 230 gr Gold Dots, one of the best performing rounds:

          In addition to the bullet to his brain, Mettinger had taken six hits in the torso: one in the thigh and two in the right ankle that literally severed his foot.

          There are many examples, but the point is it is not rare and unless you damage the brain enough or severe spine, a human can continue to fight or run with many holes in their chest no matter what kind of bullet was used.

          • Germanacus

            We are talking averages here, not anomalies or freak cases. When I spoke of “stopping power” I was referring to police records of actual street shootings compiled by Marshall and Sanow.

            They have the .40 SW listed with a 96% one-shot stopping rate (135gr JHP).


            And yes, it is rare that anyone walks away, gets back in his car, drives away, then dies later from a close-quarter chest shot with a .40 SW hollow point.

          • Christiansoldier82

            I hang out at Evan Marshal’s site, and the thing with the one shot stop is it only accounts for the people that couldn’t or decided not to flee or fight after getting shot once.

            Any case where the bad guy needed to be shot more than once is excluded so to say 96% of people shot with that 40 cal projectile stopped is to misunderstand the concept..

            It is not rare for someone to flee or to fight with multiple hits in the chest, and if you talk to any hunter, they will tell you that hogs, deer, coyotes, hit in the heart and or lungs with center-fire rifle ammo commonly run off. Humans commonly give up when shot, but that does not mean they could not run or fight.

          • Germanacus

            I was in the military, was a police officer for nearly a decade, have been raised with firearms since I was five years old, etc. etc.

            I am not going to argue with you. You are free to believe whatever you wish. I’ve lived long enough to know what I am talking about. If I popped you in the chest once, you are going down right then and there.

          • W.N. First

            you are not going to argue because the two people have made you look like a fool but your pride wont let you admit it

          • Germanacus

            Really? I don’t think so. Coming up with unusual instances merely for the sake of arguing is foolish. Virtually anything you say can be countered with exceptions. As humans we speak in generalities all the time. I could easily counter anything you post here on any topic then call you a fool. LOL!

          • W.N. First

            the fellow plainly told you any shooting that took more than one round was excluded if thats true you look like a fool who doesnt understand the numbers you are spouting

            is it true that the number is only the people that didnt need to be shot more than once and if it is how what percent needed more than one shot to stop?

          • It depends. I’ve seen guys run after traumatic decapitation by shell fragments. The amount of adrenalin, alcohol, hard drugs or just plain meanness in a person’s system can make a serious difference. For me, it was three of those, without the hard drugs. At times, I was so angry I was shaking. Drinking for breakfast and not eating for several days at a time will sure make a fellow old.

            Being in the military is fine, so far as it goes. Going to battle can be a little different. I don’t recommend it.

          • Christiansoldier82

            First thank you for your service.
            This is not an argument at least not on my part. I am just letting you know that you have been misinformed.

            I am the head firearms trainer for my dept and I have at least one person in every class that mistakenly believes a handgun is an effective tool for stopping bad guys.
            I have to correct that so they don’t get themselves or someone else killed.

            You know Evan’s work so you probably know he spent a career on the Detroit PD and many years on their tactical team. Evan has seen a lot.

            Here are Evan’s own words.
            ‘in fact only one fatal force incident I was personally involved met my criteria and it involved a load of 00 buck’
            stoppingpower . net/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=2776

            Evan has seen a lot of people get shot and he’s never seen a one shot stop with any handgun. Think about that.

            Here is another guy with a resume more impressive than both of our put together

            “The .40-caliber round is a very effective round,” said Ken Cooper, a certified firearms instructor and training coordinator at THT of New York, a handgun training school. “It’s a good round for law enforcement. It’s not the failure of the round, it’s not the failure of the police officer. Many people don’t realize you have to shoot somebody multiple times. … Sometimes a person does not want to die today, and it takes a lot of rounds to stop them from a deadly action.”
            Cooper and Emanuel Kapelsohn, vice president of the International Association of Law Enforcement Firearms Instructors, said bullets must strike the central nervous system, break an important bone such as the pelvis or cause cardiovascular damage — bleeding — to stop a suspect. Even with a bullet in the heart, a person still “can be aggressive for 20, 30, 40 seconds or more,” Kapelsohn said.
            “It is not at all unusual for someone who has been shot multiple times with a handgun to continue to fight,” Kapelsohn said. “You can fire a handgun at a rate of four to five rounds per second. If someone — after being shot right through the heart — has 15 seconds, they can easily fire 50 to 60 shots in that time.”

            Brother I am just telling you this because I would hate for you to have the choice of picking up a rifle or a 40 cal and making a bad choice.

            Any trainer who is worth his salt will tell you that handguns suck and are only good for fighting your way to a rifle.

            good luck and may you never need to use your weapon.

          • leftists are delusional

            These are not freak or rare occurrences. A single bullet of any caliber rarely stops the fight, UNLESS it hits the brain or spine.

          • It’s not like in the movies. Lots of people will fight until they physically can not anymore.

          • leftists are delusional

            No it’s not always like the movies. People don’t go flying even when hit with a 12 gauge slug.

          • Probably he was on something: this also clouded his judgement into getting into a gunfight on a public highway. Even if he won the shootout did’nt he realize that the LEO called his plate in? Once the officer didn’t report in, and they found him dead by his car he must’ve realized that he’d get pulled over eventually.

          • leftists are delusional

            He certainly could have been under the influence of a drug, but violent behavior and poor judgement is common to the group.

            I don’t think many of them have the mental ability to consider the ramifications of their actions especially when they are emotionally upset.

            I forget where I read it, but there was a research paper that estimated the average adult black had the mental development of a 11-13 year old European kid.

            Kids and blacks do stupid things. It’s just their nature.

  • A Freespeechzone

    This incident occurred just over 100 miles east of Portland, OR on I-84 at Biggs Junction, OR–middle of nowhere on the major highway to NE Oregon.

    Make sure you learn that if you travel through this area and get stopped by the Oregon State Police, don’t pull a gun and try to murder the officer….even at an 85 IQ, that is a lesson worth learning.

    No Apologies.

  • Noah Pologies

    “His family said it was out of his character for him to pull a gun on an officer.”

    Why they insist on giving interviews to the simians who are related to the good bantu, I will never understand. Expect nothing from those cockroaches, except a lawsuit against the Oregon State police fo wrongful deff.

    Didn’t the trooper understand that it’s not legal in BRA for whites to defend themselves against rampaging bantu? Holder and Obama frown on that. I’m glad the rabid animal was put down, the officer is alive, and I only wish that a spectacular car crash could have taken care of the remaining three tax payer teat suckers.

  • IstvanIN

    ‘He would have never shot at a police official or anyone of the law,’
    So, normally, he shot non-LE white people?

  • M&S

    The LEO was the one who made a mistake in getting out of -his- car. If the perp wants to play me-first games, you stay in your bullet proof sanctuary and go offhand to shoot out the side window as you use the loudspeaker to instruct the guy about his mistake.
    Volume wise, your electronic voice will beat his shouts on intimidation factoring and the fact that you aren’t physically confronting the man will deflect his challenge-back (conflict psychology is 90% coup driven) instinct into ??? mode. Which is usually a good thing because it means something is happening that isn’t on his scripted encounter mode action:response checklist.
    Once he’s back in his car, you then wait for backup and don’t approach the vehicle until you have another blocker unit in front and a second officer to make him think twice about playing what’s-in-my-other-hand games at 180`+ of no-masked blindspot counter coverage from the opposite side of the car.
    Now he can’t beat you and your fellow trooper and if he’s operating on a child-protection psychology, he’s deflated by the fact that the officer behind him could easily gun the kids (though he won’t) and there isn’t much he can do to stop it except submit.
    Which is what you want.
    The individual was clearly aggressive in his stance: shoulders arched, hands on hips/in-jacket to misdirecton the move behind his back and the driver’s side door left open in a fight or flight instinctive ‘make me bigger than I am’ puffed up posturing before sprintaway condition.
    Any cop worth his pension would have seen this in the first second and his gun would have been out and on the individual.
    What gets me is that it doesn’t look like, ‘as a veteran’, the man was a capable shooter.
    The video is obviously blurred out (Dashcams have to be good enough to capture imageable faces and plate numbers or they are worthless) but I don’t see enough slide action or trigger finger compressions to indicate that this man had emptied his clip. In fact, there is a blur, between :33 – :34, just before he skitters across in front of the cruisers hood, where his gun is up in some kind of James Bond impression, that I could have sworn I saw a mag drop.
    He then drops the gun into line again as if he’s covering someone on the other side of the Cruiser. Before disappearing.
    That he then comes back around the front of the car with another (?) mag in his hand and fumbles the reload (chamber the round, gun into battery, then expose, ready to fire) is tactically stupid.
    Once he was there anyway, a soldier would likely move down the side of the car, from tire to tire and then take the target from the back or shoot under the car if he was laid out but even if he was in a blocking force protection position for the kids, he would never come back around the front where the threat expected him to be, especially if with a long way to go, back-exposed, to get back in his own vehicle.
    A soldier would finish the fight.
    Add this to the general idiocy of standing out in a traffic lane on a busy highway when you want the officer to have to come forward around his own hood to get at you and there is something very wrong here.
    Check his blood chemistry, check his legal custody as right to be travelling out of state with the kids, check his financials as indication of suicide-by-cop needs and then start looking for tumors.
    Something spooked this man. And whatever that was, it was sufficiently threatening (as he thought he was being pulled over for something with serious consequences) that preemptive gunplay was the better initiative stealing action.
    It wasn’t but the fact that the LEO lived was entirely within the black’s control, not the white trooper’s. And that’s what is truly wrong here.

    • dumbfuckdemocrats

      I doubt the car has bulletproof windows. Staying in the car would have made him a sitting duck

    • M&S

      Due to the nature of the slope and grazing angle, the police officer is safe from about the ribcage down as most pistol rounds will not go through the hood and the area underneath the windshield wipers/fire wall, even if they miss the block.
      Simply tilting the glass also increases the likelihood of a ricochet and if you put a lexan backing behind it, it will stop about 70-80% of non full jacket pistol rounds. This is necessary because when you put the bumper into the rear wheel well of a fleeing perp, the natural thing to happen is the wheel well crumpling which eats the tire, locking up the differential as the suspect vehicle comes around and the cruiser takes it in the side.
      The lexan keeps the windshield from buckling as the bow frames flex.
      I could be wrong but I have a couple friends who say that it’s there and they are ‘in the business’ (servicing local PD vehicles).
      More importantly, if you are waiting to approach the vehicle for an SVR check or DMV registered owner report over the microwave modem or for friendly backup to arrive when the individual exits his car, it’s now too late to play the scramble from the coffin game while pulling your pistol from a seated position behind the wheel.
      You _have to_ win the fight you’re in.
      Which means, unless you’re a leftie, you had better have had a good pistol instructor that made you work that offhand from around an obstacle because you’re going to be shooting seated, without a sight picture, probably around the light/mirror assembly.

  • bubo

    The percentage of blacks with severe mental illness dwarfs every other race. I know this to be true.

    • Rhetorical question: Are blacks with mental illnesses really mentally ill, or are they just calling typical black behavior “mental illness” to keep from having to think about racial differences?

      • leftists are delusional

        Disregarding the rhetorical nature of the question, blacks are diagnosed with schizophrenia four to five times the rate of other races.

        I can’t imagine that psychiatrists and psychologists are doing that on purpose because it demonstrates another racial difference.

      • dumbfuckdemocrats

        It’s called TNB

    • withcaution

      I would think any competent white person would figure this out after dealing with blacks. Just goes to show that while whites make be smarter than most or all other races, they still suffer from an unhealthy amount of idiots.

    • IstvanIN

      Maybe it is because they are out of their element in a modern society.

      • bubo

        This would be my assertion as well.

  • GeneticsareDestiny

    And remember everyone: this was probably an above-average black man. Judging from the fact that he was a construction engineer and knew his children, he was probably fairly intelligent for his race.

    But even an above-average IQ doesn’t negate the powerful violent impulses blacks are subject to.

    • libertarian1234

      “Construction Engineer” to the construction industry is someone who does manual labor, just as “Maintenance Engineer” in the janitorial business means somebody who mops floors.

      • GeneticsareDestiny

        Ah, I didn’t know that! Thanks.

  • JackKrak

    Show me one – ……O……….N………..E……….. – such video with the races reversed and I will shut up forever about black criminality, violence, etc.

    I can make that offer with confidence since if there was such a video, every second of it would be burned into the memories of every American through daily broadcast on television. It would be part of the school curriculum of 1st graders. Every third brain-dead teenage mall rat and college hipster would have a t-shirt emblazoned with an image from it and it would probably replace the playing of the national anthem at sporting events.


      Well, if by “races reversed” you mean a white perp shooting a police officer during a traffic stop I give you the horrific video of Officer Kyle Dinkheller’s murder. If you’ve never seen it before you can watch the video on YouTube. < But be warned it's very hard to listen to this poor officer being chewed apart by bullet after bullet. )

      However, if by "races reversed" you mean a white perp shooting a black police officer during a traffic stop. Well, they might be out there but I certainly have never seen them.

      Finally, let me just say that whether Kyle Dinkhellers murder by a white perp meets your "races reversed" standards or not. You mustn't "shut up" at all about black criminality let alone "shutting up forever". There's not very many truth tellers out there when it comes to race and we need all the help we can get.

      • Jack Burton

        Both guys were in the military. A lot of people in the military are mentally unstable, whether they were before going in or after. I’ve had many experiences and heard those from others that demonstrate this.

        • Rhialto

          Yes, but they used to have sane officers whose word was law. So mental instability could be channeled into productive activity, such as killing the enemy. These officers had no commitment to Diversity, only winning.

  • blight14

    Bravo officer! There is NO way our founders intended for the 2nd amendment to apply to non-whites, period.

  • Germanacus

    Standard issue for most HPs, STs, and locals is the 9 mm. The SW .40 combines the high-speed penetrating power of a smaller bullet (115 gr. etc) with the much larger (230 gr.) and much slower (950 fps) punch of the .45 caliber. The 40 gives you the best of both. I believe the stats have the 40 at a 98% one-shot stopping rate for police use. I carried a 9 when I was a cop. Dept. policy.

    • Germanacus

      BTW, as with anything else, there are also trade-offs in bullet selection. What you want is high penetration combined with maximum bullet expansion. On one end of the extreme you have a wad-cutter bullet, on the other you have the full metal jacket (fmj). The wad-cutter maximally expands but has very weak penetration. Conversely, the fmj gives you maximum penetration but very little bullet expansion — it retains its shape (I suspect this is what the trooper was using and in a 9mm).

      A good compromise then is the semi-jacketed hollow point (sjhp) — penetration combined with expansion. One draw-back to using this bullet though is its shape. It is flattened on the end and can hang on the feeding ramp of a semi-auto pistol whereas the fmj is rounded on the end and provides highly reliable feeding.

      When your life is on the line all of these things must be considered. I’ve known cops to load their clips alternating with fmj and sjhp. I’ve also known them to make traffic stops at night then walk up to a car with their flashlight in their shooting hand! Good way to get yourself killed.

      • The only pistol handload I produced that was actually used to shoot a person was for 7.63mm X 25 Mauser – the old “Broomhandle” Mauser pistol round. I used the Hornady 85 grain “XTP” (eXtreme Terminal Performance) bullet and 12.5 grains of IMR-4227 powder. I never chronographed this load, but it would have been going about 1400 FPS.

        The bullet entered the home-invader at the joint of his right arm and collarbone. It turned into the inside of collarbone, splintering and shattering as it cored out the bone, stripping the jacket as it went. The stripped core finally made another 90-degree turn when it hit the perp’s sternum and made a ragged exit wound. He fell down right away: a one-shot-stop with a .30 cal pistol round.

        The shattered pieces of collarbone that remained had to be surgically removed, but much had been blown out through the skin.

        I doubt the Hornady bullet was intended for controlled expansion at this velocity, but I am very happy my friend was not only OK, but beat the charges.

        • Germanacus

          Oh yes, when a bullet hits bone like that it can zig zag in the body. I never really did much hand-loading myself but I would think the SW .40 in semi-jacketed hollow point, 135 gr, would be pretty close to optimal for police work. This is also what I carry now for personal defense use.

        • I thought of getting one of those old Broomhandles. Those were like the 1st automatic pistols made for the German Army in WW-I. Did your friend actually shoot someone with one of those? Not that I know much about guns but some of those Broomhandles were also fully automatic.

  • leftists are delusional

    There was a shecop in East Texas that pulled over an aspiring rapper with his kid in the car a few years ago.

    The rapper didn’t have a gun so he had to beat the hell out of the copchick.

    I’m sure that was out of character for him too.

  • Bob

    The black radical activists and white libtards are going to play csi and say that according to the video the perp was not hit so the cops must have hunted him down and murdered him….just my prediction (if it has not already happened?).

  • jackryanvb

    This perp didn’t look mortally wounded. Think police may have executed this guy.

    That’s what Whiter police do in Central American countries and Brazil.

    • I suspect the perp was too full of adrenaline. He didn’t know he was toast. He probably felt a bit sleepy and then pulled off the road.

    • Luca

      Some mortal wounds take time to settle in. In this case it took about 3 minutes.

  • dumbfuckdemocrats

    A few of them will be killed off in the inner city tribal wars.

  • Mike Conrad

    He has five? No, he has five that he admits to.

  • Germanacus

    Thanks for the data. I didn’t realize the transition to the 40 had been done on that magnitude.

    I do stand by my opinion of the 40s lethality regardless of the childish down votes though.

    • Christiansoldier82

      The 40 cal is a good choice for a handgun, but handguns of any caliber are not as effective as seen on tv.

      I did not down vote you.

  • me

    90% of a police officer’s job is putting up with ‘minority’ bullcrap. No wonder some of them develop an ‘attitude’.

  • libertarian1234

    ‘He would have never shot at a police official or anyone of the law,’ his cousin, Will Wright III, said. ‘He would not have missed the kill shot either.’

    They lie through their teeth even if it’s all captured on video and every action is there to see.

    • Earl Turner

      Cameras be rayciss, knowmsayin?

  • FormerlyEdNY

    Justice was served! Now social security survivors benefits for all of his kids plus section 8, snap, Medicaid, cash assistance, etc…A huge drain on White taxpayers either way.

  • Rex

    This shows that no matter what we do for them Blacks cannot be
    civilized. Really, they never belonged with us. Extreme violence is in their genes.Their place is the
    Jungle of Africa.

  • M&S

    There is no doubt that if he was wearing a vest it may have saved Trooper Zistel from what might have been a lethal wound but it did not prevent him from being taken out of the fight. If the last man standing can look at you, jack a fresh round into his gun and then run off to his vehicle, he can also put a finishing shot into your face. The vest does nothing for you at that point.
    I have been stopped before and sat there for what seemed like 10 minutes but was probably closer to 5 while the state cop let me stew and fidget. I had just gotten off a very long double holiday shift and was listening to some tunes on my Walkman on my way home in my no-stereo clunker with the window rolled down and the wind in my hair on a very cold January 2 morning to keep from going to sleep at the wheel.
    That I really wanted to get home was proven by the fact that I rolled up on his patrol car from behind while /he/ was about to pull someone else over for speeding.
    Not. A. Good. Idea.
    I tapped the brakes and flashed my lights and he changed lanes, dropped back and flashered me in turn. At which point the game was his to make the rules for because _what am I going to do_?
    There is nothing in any department doctrine that says you have to get dead doing a traffic stop. And if the driver bails out of his vehicle while you are still in your’s, you have lost the race on exiting the driver’s side door because even if you are a leftie, your hand is on the door handle.
    You have to turn away, pull your foot out of the pedal well and step up and out, all of which discombobulates your muscle memory with too many complex motions to keep a gun leveled.
    OTOH, if you draw your sidearm and, if necessary, trade hands as you reach for the door handle with your right, now you are at least even with any attempt to Quickdraw McGraw because you are sitting and the door is open and your seated posture lets you focus on holding the muzzle index straight at his chest.
    If he does nothing, you can now use your right hand to pick up your radio mike, flip to PA and tell the individual:
    “Get back in the car.”
    If he refuses, you can call for backup. You can get out of your vehicle (the door is open and your left hand is holding the gun clear). Or you can try another round of “Last warning, get back in the car.”
    This is not a _Heat_ conditioned scenario, your cruiser doesn’t have to be bullet proof to 5.56mm M4 rounds flying through both doors at 2,750fps. An engine block can and will stop a 1,000fps 9mm round. If the round comes through the windshield, your vest is still there.
    What is important about the tactical scenario is quickly making yourself an equal or greater threat so that you can reestablish dominance and deescalate the situation.
    Where shooting through tilted glass is never a good idea, that means getting your weapon out for a cleared shot.
    Notice that the guy takes several steps forward -before- he draws his weapon. This tells me that he thinks he can. That he is expressing dominance psychology as ‘you can’t stop me, can you?’ testing of the waters.
    That’s not gonna happen if he has a muzzle aligned on his centermass.
    And so he’s not gonna get to clean up his sight picture resolution on you through the windshield and beyond the steering wheel.
    He’s going to have to Rambo out right where he stands or he’s going to choose to back down and submit.
    You don’t want to kill this man if you can avoid the need to.
    But if it comes to it, you want the shooting to start as far away as possible, you want to take the first and second shots and you want to make sure that you have as much cover between you and him as you can.
    Do not confuse your own ‘lesser dominance posture’ panic at fighting from a seated position for good tactical sense.
    Get your gun on the man.
    Make sure he knows that your trigger pull beats his reach-behind and then offer him an out that involves getting back in his car.
    _IF_ you are a good offhand shooter, he is going to lose that fight.
    Either way, your skill and discipline controls who lives and who dies, the perp doesn’t. Which is about all you can ask for at that point.

  • Since they can’t control themselves, does this mean we get to go back to prohibiting them from owning firearms?

  • Funruffian

    State troopers need to have their pistols drawn and aimed before pulling over Bantus. The likelihood of them attacking an officer is very high as in this case. All you have to do is scour the web and you can see hundreds of Dash-cam videos of Similar Bantu attacks.

  • Ella

    The Black guy was total attitude when he got out of his Cadillac car. People don’t respect our laws, so they get killed as a result. You think America is on the brink of anarchy by watching this video.

  • ShermanTMcCoy

    Ah, ni66ers. . .

  • Gereng

    This is incomprehensible! How could this guy came out with a pistol shooting at a cop for being stopped merely for speeding? Unless he was insane, this is crazy even for bantus.

  • Herman

    I wonder if the black guy shot himself?
    He didn’t appear to be hurt. Of course he was so crazed he might not have even felt it.


    There is one obvious reason, and one simple equation:
    African-American = NEGRO = low IQ = third world behaviour = DEPRAVITY
    So endeth the lesson in algebra

  • Slightly different. I loaded the Tokarev round with .308″ bullets and the Mauser with .311″.

    I once had all of those pistols, and three of them were broomhandles, though one of the Broomhandles was in 9mm X 25 Mauser Export cal.

  • M&S

    Call him what you want.
    If race is nothing but an undifferentiated speciation event waiting to happen, then getting the competing subspecies of violent hominids out of our homeland where our laws grant them rights equal to our own people still requires that we respect them as threats or we will go down to our own H&K, SIG or Glock.
    In their hands.
    This is not a red of tooth and claw condition and cannot be so long as the opposable thumb and fast twitch coordination are there to compete with us on weapons use.
    Tactics preempt and preset the conditions of the engagement.
    You win going in. Or you never stop losing.
    How many heartbeats do you suppose that Trooper’s wife, girlfriend or mother lost in life when The Call came and all she could wonder was how /stupid/ the world could be that her young man got shot in a traffic stop?
    Stupidity doesn’t own a color and regret is only useful when you look in the mirror and dare to learn from your mistakes. That black man will never learn from his actions. Will we?
    If something looks wrong, it is wrong. Control the situation with whatever degree of force you have available before it gets worse. Don’t confront.