Obama Plans Immigration Push After Fiscal Crisis Ends

Yahoo! News, October 16, 2013

President Barack Obama said on Tuesday that stalled immigration reform would be a top priority once the fiscal crisis has been resolved.

“Once that’s done, you know, the day after, I’m going to be pushing to say, call a vote on immigration reform,” he told the Los Angeles affiliate of Spanish-language television network Univision.

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In June, the Senate passed an immigration overhaul, but House of Representatives Republicans are divided over the granting of legal status to those in the country illegally, a step many see as rewarding lawbreakers.

Although the president had sought comprehensive reform, he said last month he would be open to the House taking a piece-by-piece approach if that would get the job done.

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“We had a very strong Democratic and Republican vote in the Senate,” Obama said. “The only thing right now that’s holding it back is, again, Speaker Boehner not willing to call the bill on the floor of the House of Representatives.”

Boehner said the sweeping Senate bill would not pass the House and has said the lower chamber would tackle the issue in smaller sections that would include stricter provisions on border protection.

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  • Puggg

    Hope that there’s so much burnout after this government (not) shutdown fight that nobody wants any part of amnesty.

    • Spartacus

      There is no rest for the wicked…

    • For the budget deal struck today to pass the House, which it will probably do some time tonight, Boehner is going to have to blow through the Hastert Rule. The good news there is that if he plays that card once, he very likely won’t be able to play it again, and he would need to play it again in order to get some form of amnesty to pass the House, as there is no way that any form of amnesty will get a majority of House Republicans.

      • Sick of it

        I don’t know, these jokers have folded on everything but gun control laws so far.

        • And why haven’t they folded on that?

          It’s not because of the NRA’s money, because the other side spends more money when gun grabber bills come up.

          It’s not really even because of the NRA per se.

          Back in January, there was an article in Forbes about the upcoming legislative fight, and we know how that turned out in the long run. The highlights of the article that really jumped out at me is that it admitted that one big advantage our side had was that our side “marches with military precision” and “sets aside its internecine squabbles” when a grabber bill comes up, while the other side is divvied up a thousand ways to Sunday because the other side’s groups aren’t really in it for the political victory, but more so to whet the egos of their groups’ leaders and to hustle money for their organizations so that they can hire their leaders’ family members for lifetime sinecures.

          Therefore, the answer is sociological, because on such matters, we see what is the opposite pattern of what usually presents, usually it’s the left that marches lock step and the right divided into many pieces loath to cooperate because the pieces are little fiefdoms for one egomaniac leader/hustler after another.

          What does this all mean? When we want to win, and do what it takes to win, we usually win. Otherwise, we lose because we don’t repeat winning strategies.

  • E_Pluribus_Pluribus

    Ask the staffer in your congressman’s office to go to Google News and search the term “National Front” to see what happens to “conservative” parties that ignore their base’s desires for reduced immigration.

    Sample: headline from the Times of London, Oct. 15:

    “National Front’s poll victory causes panic among Parisian elite”

  • ncpride

    We’re done for if Republicans fold on this issue, and it’s not looking good. They sincerely think granting amnesty to millions of Mexicans will magically have them all voting for them like some sort of reward for their traitorous behavior. They’re delusional, and we all know it.

    • Jesse James

      NC I really find it hard to believe that any sane Republican believes that Mexican peasants are going to vote for their party. Hell they can hardly get us white American peasants to vote for them anymore. I think they aren’t delusional, more likely they are just all bought off by their corporate masters. If it wasn’t such a disaster for regular Americans it would almost be funny to watch my Senator’s Saxby Chambliss and Johnny Isackson trying to walk the tight rope between the big business interests that finance them and the ticked off white Georgia voters who keep them in power.

      • ncpride

        I agree with your analysis, however, I have also heard far too many of them insisting they need to be more ‘inclusive’, and ‘reach out’ more to minorities, and insisting Mexicans have such fine ‘family values’ similar to our own, and they are really conservatives at heart, blah, blah, blah….Ann Coulter has even slammed them more than once for such ridiculous thinking.

        • So CAL Snowman

          As long as their districts remained gerrymandered, the Repubs can say anything they want and still get elected. I mean look at John McCain. How the hell does someone like that keep getting re-elected in Arizona of all places? He’s like the antithesis of Governor Brewer.

          • ncpride

            I was absolutely stunned when McCain was re-elected. If I remember correctly, it wasn’t even 3 months after the election before he reneged on his promise to do something about illegal immigration, and starting supporting amnesty again. I can’t understand how the people of Arizona fell for his lies, even after his poor record on the issue. Unbelievable!

          • It’s called the power of incumbency, plus for the fact that most people don’t pay close attention to the day to day scorecard of conventional politics in order to be able to see through lies.

            Now, for both you and So Cal Snowman, you might be wondering how states full of such good voters wind up electing such turkeys to the Senate like McCain, Flake, Lindsay Grahamnesty, the two fools from Tennessee and the two fools from Georgia, (the only reason the two fools from Georgia didn’t vote for the Gang Bangers of Eight bill was because they feared our pressure.) To ask it another way, how do the same people in the same state in the same election cycle vote for immigration patriot Jan Brewer to be Governor and open borders leech John McCain to be Senator?

            There is a relatively easy answer.

            First, realize the following true assumptions:

            1. Senate elections are statewide public elections held once every six years.

            2. Since they occur in entire states, they are more expensive propositions than Congressional elections. Because you have to do media buys in all the state’s media markets, more travel expenses, etc.

            3. One sitting Senator represents 1/100th of the power of the upper chamber of the legislature of the American Federal government.

            4. A Federal government, mind you, that spent somewhere in the neighborhood of $3.8 terabucks last FY. And a Federal government, mind you again, that, thanks to “the cost of the union” (H/T the newly married Hunter Wallace of OD) wields a very heavy hand on most matters of public policy and almost a 100% of the power when it comes to immigration law and enforcement.

            Let’s mix all these ingredients together and bake our cake.

            Any monied special interest that wants to influence the Federal government’s policy making mechanisms is going to glom onto U.S. Senate elections hot and heavy.

            Imagine you are Sheldon Adelson or Donnie Smith, and more than anything else in the world, you want open borders for EL CHEAPO labor because it’s in your personal best interests, or if not that, at the very least, you want immigration law not to be enforced so we have de facto open borders. Combine all the ingredients above, and it should be obvious that it does not really matter to Adelson and Smith who the Governor of Arizona is, or who their state legislators are. They don’t much care about what happens in any state government re immigration, because they know the Feds will wave its bony finger and say no-no-no. But Adelson, Smith and others like them do care very much who sitting U.S. Senators from Arizona and other states are. Because, in our political climate, if you can buy maybe about 30 Senators at most, that’s all the firewall you need to prevent immigration patriotism from being a matter of enforced law and public policy. There will always be a number of patriots in the Senate who want real immigration patriotism who can never be bought or compromised with money, and there will always be a number of Democrats who will vote open borders no matter what for their own partisan well being, so they don’t need to be bought because they’re doing Adelson’s and Smith’s work for free, why buy a cow when you’re getting the pasteurized milk for free? The 30 at most in the middle in the Senate is the crucial difference. Buying a Senator is expensive to us, but it’s really cheap and economical leverage over the Federal government to Adelson and Smith.

            “What about the House?” Yeah, they’d like it, but it’s not a very efficient and economical path to political leverage if you’re an open borders zillionaire. As far as that goes, if it ever shows signs to getting “out of hand,” all they need to do is buy a few well placed members in party caucus leadership and those who run or rank on crucial committees, they don’t need to try to buy/bribe all 435 members.

            This doesn’t just apply to immigration, even though it’s the topic at hand. Anyone who wants anything from government will rather try to buy a Senator than a Governor, even though they’re both statewide elections. A Senator is 1% of the power over the upper legislative chamber of a $3.8T government, a state’s Governor is 100% of the executive power of a government that spends far less, $25.7B in FY 2014 in the case of my state, $145B in the case of the biggest spending state, Mexifornia, but both figures a relative pittance compared to the Feds.

          • ncpride

            In other words, our government is corrupt beyond repair, and run by greedy, power hungry traitors who buy what they want with total disregard to the damage they do to the country. Got it.

          • Whitetrashgang

            It has always been that way ,thats why there are revolutions. Those who control the money or energy always run the show. Politicians are just the whores for these people.

          • Sick of it

            A long time ago, when this was the United States of America, people got run out of office, and out of town, when they sullied their reputation. Today, few care.

          • LolKatzen

            Yep, and it’s the same here in Canada (where the govt is importing vast numbers of third worlders, including Muslims–who will mostly not assimilate even if they’re white). And Australia. And Europe. Marine Le Pen (Front National) will have a huge fight, France’s elites will push back with everything they’ve got.

            In these other countries there are just a few of what you call Hispanics. It’s Muslims no one wants. It’s very odd. The Pakistani Muslims look the same as Indian Sikhs and Hindus, and some of them are OK, the rest form an underclass. See the UK for example.

            Islam, or perhaps inbreeding, seems to make them stupid.

          • So CAL Snowman

            That’s really good information. I guess the bottom line is that State’s rights have no power, it’s all about the Fed. If you can control the Senate it doesn’t matter who the governor is because the Feds will overrule her anyway.

          • Homo_Occidentalis

            It’s simple: more and more of Arizona’s voters are mestizos wishing to import more of their racial kin to tip the balance in their favor.

          • WR_the_realist

            Yes, professional politicians like John McCain rely very much upon the extraordinarily short attention span of the average voter. They know that most people vote without having any idea of the voting record of the person they’re voting for.

          • Sick of it

            That same short attention span is how people started to believe that Mitt Romney was somehow a conservative. Mr. pro-gay, pro-abortion, and the guy who signed Romneycare into law.

          • Senate elections are statewide, not gerrymandered districts.

          • So CAL Snowman

            Yes I know, i probably should have made the distinction between Congressional districts and the Senate. You can’t sleep on these boards!

          • That’s why I’ve been avoiding AR somewhat, though some of the subject matter in Wednesday’s threads begged me to break my own exile to put my two cents in. The Romans had a phrase that started with “Immodica ira,” and I know how it ends. All of my immodica ira was on display in the AR feature from this past Friday.

          • NordicHeritage

            Or amnesty Grahmnesty.

    • joesolargenius

      I believe the republicans will vote the way their financial backers tell them to , lets all pick whom we want to support in the next election and divide what we can spare among them evenly.

      • Sick of it

        We ARE bankrolling them, just as we are bankrolling the government as well as the corporations themselves. See the fix? It’s a system built on other people’s money. We get poorer, they get richer.

      • Whitetrashgang

        You have to vote third party

        • joesolargenius

          Voting third party will only work if the conservative Democrats join us in doing that otherwise it will be the same as voting for the Socialist DEMs.

    • NordicHeritage

      Both parties serve the same pay masters. Politics is nothing but choreographed theater for the masses. Both parties want so called “immigration reform”.

    • WR_the_realist

      Remember that the big corporate donors to the Republican Party want this immigration bill. It will bring in so much cheap labor that they’ll never have to hire American citizens again. So don’t trust the Republicans further than you can throw them.

  • Jesse James

    The fun never stops. You would think that watching the Soviet Union fall apart like a cheap suit would have taken some wind out of these communist’s sails, but noooo they just keep popping up like the damn fire ant nests in my yard.

    • joesolargenius

      Organizing those whom so desperately want something better than what they presently have is usually quite profitable as many will pay a little in the hopes of getting a lot just like the lottery. even if they knew it was rigged they would still play just so they could dream.

  • bigone4u

    If Barry had his black half’s interests at heart, he might propose legislation to do something about the historically high black unemployment rate. But, there’s always another round of golf to be played and the Mexicans keep the greens so nice.

  • Luca

    Barry, Harry and Holder are hellbent on destroying this nation as the Republicans run around in circles like the The Three Stooges.

    Amnesty is the coup de grace. Brace yourselves.

    • willbest

      Personally I would call it a win if the GOP just shut down the government for 2-3 weeks every 3 months on continuing resolutions and calls it a term.

    • MBlanc46

      There’s a good chance that amnesty is coming, but even if it doesn’t, it’s not a victory for anti-immigrationists. Leaving things just as they are leaves us with millions of illegals and more coming every day. It’s incorrect to represent Repubs as anti-immigrationist. One faction is, the other isn’t.

      • Luca

        While there are numerous holes in this ship, we are still afloat for the moment. Granting amnesty will be the final blow and we’ll sink for sure. It will absolutely guarantee a Liberal/socialist run society for generations to come.

        Aside from racial animosity, many Mexicans hold an ancient grudge against us because of their view of the Mexican American War and would like nothing better than to suck us dry. Being given the ability to vote would only enhance that agenda..

        On the other hand, if we deny them access to the polls and can somehow miraculously put a someone in office who clearly sees the folly of amnesty and can start plugging the holes with stricter border control, E-verify, increase deportations etc. We have a fighting chance of saving the ship.

        • Sick of it

          There are no peaceful solutions once the chain immigration starts in earnest. They will simply have too many votes.

        • Bossman

          “Stricter border control, E-verify, increased deportations, etc.” will only happen if there is comprehensive immigration reform. If there’s no reform, things will just continue as they’ve always been. I’m assuming that you believe that we’ve a problem right now.

          • Luca

            Actually we have immigration laws from 1986 that were not properly enforced. Now the pundits are crowing about “comprehensive immigration reform” because we have to deal with the millions of illegals and anchor babies.

            We need comprehensive enforcement.

        • MBlanc46

          I certainly don’t support amnesty. I just want to emphasize that defeating amnesty, if it happens, is merely maintaining an insufferable status quo.

          • We’ve had de facto amnesty via non-enforcement of immigration law ever since Operation Wetback was ended. But that doesn’t mean we can say “feh” and not think that the amnesty bill isn’t dangerous.

          • MBlanc46

            Absolutely. My point is that just defeating amnesty isn’t even half the battle.

  • Jesse James

    Unfortunately all this budget impasse seems to have done is help take the failure of the launch of Obama-care off the front burner. It has given the press a reasonable excuse to pretend they don’t see how bad the roll out has been.

  • NordicHeritage

    Remember Never let a good crisis go to waste.

  • ncpride

    I don’t trust any of them anymore to do the right thing. There are still a few good ones who fight the good fight, but most of them are spineless cowards.

  • ShermanTMcCoy

    Reminds me of the famous George W. Dingbat slogan,

    “Mission Accomplished.”

    • Sick of it

      It also reminds me of what his father said on September 11, 1991 – “There will be…a New World Order”

  • WR_the_realist

    That’s why I wish the Republicans would grow some stones and just let the federal government default. Given the choice between that immigration bill and a financial crisis, I’ll take the financial crisis.

  • odious liberal

    They need the illegal alien vote to replace the whites who have finally seen the light.

    • Rick Brooks

      Unfortunately not enough whites have ‘seen the light.’ The whole reason Barack Hussein Obama is president is because starry-eyed white liberals in states like IA, OR and VT decided to vote for the “transformational” mulatto messiah in the 2008 Democratic primaries. Remember, blacks were polling heavily for Hillary until they saw BHO winning the mostly white electorate in these states and then they jumped ship. Then there are the 40 million whites who voted to elect this clown. Blacks and mestizos aren’t strong enough numerically or intellectually to run this country. It’s their white liberal enablers who always prove decisive.

      • WR_the_realist

        Actually, the whole reason Obama is president is because the idiot Republicans first chose John McCain, and them Mitt Romney, to run against him. McCain would have given us illegal alien amnesty plus a war with Iran by now. Not even Romney knows what Romney would do as president.

  • DaveMed

    I’m not sure Republicans actually expect millions of Hispanics to vote for them if they agree to “reform” – they may just believe that it’s coming either way, and that (by agreeing) they’ll at least get a few thousand votes out of it.

    In any event, whites need to be encouraging their children to pursue better-paying careers. Since whites are, apparently, too short-sighted and self-centered to have more than 1.5 children/family, we need to take steps like this to maintain some sort of authority over this country.

  • withcaution

    Trust me, we’ve had amnesty for 50 years. This is just a formality.