Feinstein Wants ICE to Stop Farm Audits

Stacy Finz, San Francisco Chronicle, September 6, 2013

At the height of California’s harvest, during a critical farm labor shortage, Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif., has asked immigration officials to stop cracking down on undocumented field workers, saying she is concerned that it could lead to financial losses and higher food prices. Feinstein, a senior member of the Senate Judiciary Committee, urged Immigration and Customs Enforcement to focus its prosecutions on violent criminals instead of agricultural employers and their workers. She has asked the agency to discontinue its I-9 farm audits, a verification process that assures that an employee has authorization to work in the United States.

“Many farmers and growers in California informed me that their business and livelihood are at risk due to a shortage of legal harvesters, pickers, pruners, packers and farm workers,” Feinstein wrote in a Sept. 3 letter to Janet Napolitano, the outgoing secretary of Homeland Security. “As you can imagine, with approximately 81,000 farms in California, I am very concerned that these audits will result in significant harm to the agricultural industry and the state’s overall economy.”

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California, where farming is a $37.5 billion business, is the largest agricultural state in the nation. Of the 1.2 million people employed in agriculture-related jobs in the U.S., the government estimates that 70 percent are undocumented.

ICE spokeswoman Virginia Kice said Homeland Security will respond directly to Feinstein. She would not address whether the agency would stop the audits, which she said are not random and are prompted by tips. {snip}

“ICE is focused on sensible, effective immigration enforcement that prioritizes efforts first on those who present the greatest risk to the security of our communities, not sweeps or raids to target undocumented immigrants indiscriminately,” Kice said in a statement.

But farmers say the stringent background checks–including E-Verify, an Internet database that checks whether a worker is legal–tougher immigration restrictions, border violence and a weakened job market in the United States have stopped many seasonal workers from making the trek from Mexico.

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“Because the reality is that the majority of farm workers in the U.S. are foreign-born and unauthorized–which is well known–I am afraid that this aggressive worksite enforcement strategy will deprive the agricultural sector of most of its workforce and cause farmers and related industries across the country significant economic harm, as well as driving up food prices for consumers,” the senator wrote.

Kice responded that “the audits specifically focus on employers who cultivate illegal workplaces by breaking the country’s laws and knowingly hiring illegal workers. This strategy also reduced the need for large-scale immigration enforcement actions and focuses on form I-9 audits as an important administrative tool in building criminal cases and bringing employers into compliance with the law.”

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  • List of U.S. Senators getting huge campaign contributions from agribusiness:

    Feinstein, D.

    (Among many others)

    • me

      Who voted this evil gargoyle into office? And why hasn’t she been recalled yet? The woman is obviously a psychopath and a traitor, so why is she still barking out orders to the citizens of this country like some rabid hyena bitch?

      • Who voted this evil gargoyle into office?

        The people of California, five times.

        And why hasn’t she been recalled yet?

        Because, California.

        The woman is obviously a psychopath and a traitor, so why is she still barking out orders to the citizens of this country like some rabid hyena?

        Because…open air insane asylum. (nee United States of America)

  • NeanderthalDNA

    This is a sticky wicket. Likely she is correct. The crops need to be picked by someone.

    The problem is who. Do we sweep the streets and put homeless folk out in the fields? Surely a few would welcome something like that. Or the blacks? Do we scoop up a tassel of ghetto negroes and ship them out to the valley to work hard? How’s that going to work?

    When my state started getting serious about checking documentation I remember how the chicken plant on US 378 changed almost overnight from Tijuana to Ghana. Suspect the same happened in other states with chicken processing plants. Right around that time I noticed ever decreasing quality in the chicken products our restaurant ordered. Little things that added up in the aggregate. Problems with consistency of product, size of portions, mix of parts, etc.

    Although I’m sure Ms. Feinstein is all for White genocide, this points out the reality that SOME kind of guest worker program probably IS needed, but such is only possible if we REALLY secure our borders, especially our southern one.

    • mobilebay

      We have many guest worker programs. The problem as I understand it, is that the farmers find the paperwork too time-cosuming and the laws too strict to bother with. Instead, they prefer to hire illegals under the table or probably outright now since our laws on this are a joke.

      • NeanderthalDNA

        Yeah it’s a tricky one. That 5-7 points of IQ the Hispanic has over the black make a difference in quality, no doubt about it.

        This is why I have a hard time with libertarian solutions to the race/immigration problem, why I really feel we need some kind of Putin in charge here. If we REALLY don’t want more non-whites we REALLY have to look at paying more for our daily bread, since we will have to pay competent workers enough to support themselves. Some honorable White, race realist libertarian types may indeed wish to go there, but they must compete with others who will undercut them and run them out of business.

        Some wealth redistribution programs run by MERIT based civil servants, SANELY conceived and implemented, might serve to free employers of onerous wage regulations, but currently our civil services are dumping grounds for overpaid pet minorities.

        I believe that the only hope for long term good lies in some kind of authoritarian interregnum to “clean house” before things can begin to return to an upward vector.

        • plaintruthforidiots

          You don’t have to pay more for anything – it’s the FARMERS who are taking all the extra profit from employing illegals. I can’t remember the exact figures, but I read somewhere that if the farmers paid $20 an hour to crop pickers, it would only raise the price of vegetables by 10% or something like that- presuming that the farmer doesn’t expect to continue making huge profits by employing virtual slaves, of course.

    • Jenkem Huffington

      When you factor in the financial drain of these parasites on our society your “cheap” chicken comes at a very high price, it is merely hidden and spread around elsewhere, or kicked down the road with more state and federal debt to enslave your children.

      I’m sure the billions of dollars in food stamps also artificially inflates the price of food as well being essentially a flood of extra “dollars” chasing the same amount of goods, but you don’t see Feinstein’s of the world complaining.

      • me

        The majority of the illegal squat monsters don’t work in agriculture anymore. Why work in the fields when our federal government will give you everything for free, on a silver platter? They shouldn’t be here if they’re not working for a living. Also, the majority of Bantus would be better off working in the fields again, where they would earn their keep and not be causing all of that ‘urban crime’. ‘Idle hands are free to do the devil’s work’, and all that.

        • Fighting_Northern_Spirit

          I’d rather not have Bantus touching my food. Mestizos are bad enough.
          .
          Somehow we survived when Whites worked in agriculture, as they still do in some parts of the country. My brother lives in Central Oregon, and while mestizos are certainly present and growing, there are plenty of poor Whites there who have lost hope, gone on the dole and/or got strung out on drugs, because hiring them is becoming a complete non-starter for those whose very business model is built on illegal labor. Even at the same wages, hiring Whites above the table brings on the crushing burdens of socialist labor law. Throw in the consolidation of agribusiness into mega corporations, and you have a perfect storm against poor Whites.

    • MBlanc46

      Either that or you pay a living wage at the chicken processing plant.

    • Sick of it

      Considering how high unemployment really is, maybe they could try hiring Americans.

      • NeanderthalDNA

        Yeah, to all who replied, yeah. I’d rather pay a little more for chicken and some other things in return for something resembling a living wage and closing of borders.

        In a perfect world.

        • Bossman

          No! She not putting Mexicans and cheap labor over the American worker. No American workers are to be found for those kinds of jobs.

          • NorthSea

            Neither party cares for working class whites; that’s why so many stayed away from voting for Romney. The conservative “experts” say the Repubs need to reach out to minorities accordingly. Not the problem, guys.

          • Xerxes22

            Your hero, Sen. John McCain, said that Americans wouldn’t pick lettuce for $50.00 an hour. Why not put that claim to the test. Let the farmers and the meat packers pay half that amount an hour and throw in a few benefits too. I think they will find enough Americans to do the work, and we won’t have to pay $90.00 for a gallon of orange juice or 50.00 for a head of lettuce like the pro anmesty/open border supporters claim. BTW, the Koch brothers are also big supporters of anmesty and open borders.

          • Food prices keep on getting higher, even as farm labor is getting cheaper.

            The Motorola Moto X is being assembled in the United States. Does it cost $5,000 without a carrier contract, as some suggested the iPhone could cost if it was assembled here? No.

          • That’s because the availability of Mexican field hands willing to work for Mexican salaries distorts the labor market.

        • NorthSea

          That’s “…Dem pillar of labor LEADERS”.

    • Bossman

      Plucking dead chickens is definitely not the kind of job your average white American wants to do. It has always been that way.

      • Sick of it

        If by always, you mean since the Roosevelt administration. Oh and white people still do that in the South. Maybe not in Commie Land (California).

      • NeanderthalDNA

        Yeah, in general you are correct. Lots of jobs like that, one reason I bemoan the decline of public service sector into affirmative action and good ol’ boyism (the latter about the only way a whitey can get on with a government agency these days it seems). A sane wealth redistribution system could ease the burden on the working poor without setting up a gibsmedat sense of entitlement I think.

    • This is one of the same Democrats that John Engelman has been telling us is on the side of the American worker.

      • NeanderthalDNA

        They’re supposed to be but they’re not. Self perpetuating pandering, White scapegoating abomination. Half of what’s wrong with politics…

        Makes me admire some Italian fascist concepts guild-like society, the Japanese zaibatsu model.

        • I have reservations about the Zaibatsu. The massive vertical integration seems at odds with rational antitrust laws. What currently exists in Japan is Keiretsu, which are horizontally integrated.

          • NeanderthalDNA

            I like vertically integrated entities. I think the horizontally integrated seem more prone to monopoly than a set of vertically integrated entities.

    • Jeroniomus

      No way. Small farmers raising vegetables, fruit and livestock would love to make a profit.. Agribusiness gets 20 billion dollars a year in direct subsidies, and billions more in subsidized fuel. industrial Agricultrue is called “using land to turn oil into food.” It takes 10 calories of oil to make one calorie of food, and that’s before it gets shipped to the supermarkets and restaurants.

      I would be a farmer, but how can I compete with mega-Agribusiness that gets 20 billion in subsidies and much more in indirect petroleum subsidies so they can get huge economies of scale? Oh, and you want to tell me that they do farming better than me?

      I can produce food at a much more favorable Energy Returned on Energy Invested than 10 calories of oil to 1 calorie of food.

      The food I produce doesn’t cause obesity, diabetes and likely other maladies such as antibiotic laced meat and glyphosate soaked corn/wheat/soybeans, both of which disrupt gut bacteria.

      Obesity alone costs the USA 150 billion dollars a year in healthcare costs and lost productivity.

      So 200 billion a year is what the “economies of scale” cost us.

      I just harvested about 150 pounds of winter squash. I’ve got beans and potatoes and cabbage for kraut still to harvest. Also tomatoes to tomato juice, and half sour pickles and a few hundred pounds of Asian pears. Probably 50% of my diet comes from my garden, and my family’s diet. 4 of us. I spend about 50 hours a year and less than 300 a year to do this. It’s a mere hobby.

      If it wasn’t for subsidized Industrial Agriculture, if I was full time, I could feed probably 30 people the way I do it. I’d have some farm laborers. We’d have to have no welfare so the local proles would be motivated to work. So we’d need about 10 million to 20 million farmers and lots of hobby backyard gardeners. But we’d be a lot thinner, healthier, more attractive, more jobs.

      Don’t believe the Industrial Agriculture lies. They get huge subsidies; we get nothing.

      • NeanderthalDNA

        I personally support a crazy sci-fi dream that is very do-able with some investment. Farming towers, which could be built in the middle of large urban areas, run on renewable energy, recycled water, innovative design.

        A farm tower the size of a world trade center, for instance, could theoretically produce immense amounts of food. On acre, 1000 floors. Actually more than a thousand floors for many crops, so lets say the equal of…3000 floors. 3000 acres (I think that low by the way) times…4 to 6 growing seasons…lets go with 5…one acre produces 1500 acres worth of produce annually…3000 for two trade center sized farming towers.

        If profitable such could eventually free up land under cultivation, create jobs in big areas, and actually create niche agricultural opportunities for the little guy doing it “the old fashioned way”…especially if aided by rational policy.

        Google “farming towers”. Something we could do but we got all this diversity to pay for…

        • Jeroniomus

          Farming towers at the scale you speak of would present very difficult engineering problems. Plant media, whether dirt or liquid, would get very heavy. Water weighs 8 pounds per gallon. That would add up quick. And you have to pump that water up what, 20 stories? that’s a lot of energy to pump all that weight all that distance straight upward.

          I don’t know why people are so afraid of old fashioned dirt cultivation. It’s still the best, most efficient, most nutrient dense way to produce food.

          • NeanderthalDNA

            The scale would likely be smaller, cover larger area, less vertical, right. Much would depend on material technology for monumental projects, but small scale urban/suburban gardening is another option.

            I’m a firm believer in autonomous communities in terms of the basics. One day the house of cards will fall.

  • kjh64

    Yes, but you can have higher food prices or you can pay far, far more in medical care for sick illegals, pay for their offspring in school and other social welfare, pay if they commit crimes etc. etc. Higher food prices are cheap in comparison. How about using machines to pick crops or paying Americans a decent wage? If there is still a crop picking shortage, how about a strict seasonal guest worker program where people are allowed to pick crops but then must go home and it is strictly enforced?

    • MBlanc46

      But there are two payers here. The corporate elite who profit from hiring the illegals. And the taxpayers, who provide the services for the illegals. There’s no doubt who calls the tune.

      • Bossman

        What services do tax payers provide to “illegals”? I should remind you that migrants pay all kinds of taxes, directly or indirectly.

        • MBlanc46

          Health care and education, which do not come cheap. Police and fire protection. And one wonders how many of them use forged documents to avail themselves of other social services.

          • Bossman

            Anyone who works is a contributor to the economy. Undocumented migrants workers contribute more than they take out from the system.

          • MBlanc46

            “Undocumented migrants workers contribute more than they take out from the system.”

            I’m not even sure how you’d quantify this. Show me the numbers, don’t just make bald assertions.

            The bosses that hire them surely profit off them, which is why we have them.

            If native Americans did those jobs, they would be contributing at least as much as immigrants. With 7.5 % unemployment, there’s just no case that can be made for immigration except that the employer class love it.

          • Prove it.

          • Bossman

            No! I don’t have to prove anything. It is up to you to disprove my assertions. As an educated man you should know that. Most undocumented migrants workers are young healthy people who came here to work. Anyone who works contributes. Anyone who has a social security card (even if it is fake) contributes to the social security funds. Being undocumented, they will never reap the benefits of their contributions.

          • Whitetrashgang

            Seek help

    • Sick of it

      Also, their kids take our professional jobs with their college degrees and affirmative action. They just destroy our economy ultimately.

    • Why not simply import certain labor-intensive crops? The avocados we get come from Chile.

  • mobilebay

    Keep the illegals at any price. Is that right, Senator? Don’t mind the devastation and destruction the ilegal masses bring to our country as long as you get the perks that so many of your collegues rake in. What an anti-American gang we have in charge now!

    • MBlanc46

      If by anti-American, you mean opposed to the interests of working people, the government has always been anti-American.

      • me

        The government is our worst enemy.

  • Spartacus

    That’s like saying “You know what, we’re out of money, so it’s necessary to pick random citizens of the street, take their organs, and sell them, because the economy trumps the law.” Need I remind you – AGAIN – To get armed and trained before that actually happens ?

  • Nick A Siggers

    Solution – chain gang the illegals you catch and have them work the farm until they pay off their $25,000 fine (or their families can come up with the money) then deport them.

    • willbest

      If we did this we wouldn’t even need to build the fence. They would just stop coming over.

      • Nick A Siggers

        Not only that, many would leave during the 90 day amnesty period I would propose.

        The simplest solution is often the best.

    • JDInSanD

      There are probably already enough illegals in our prisons to do the job.

    • mobilebay

      Your idea is far too sensible, NAS. And we certainly can’t have anything sensible floating around Washington.

  • rowingfool

    “I am afraid that this aggressive worksite enforcement strategy will deprive the agricultural sector of most of its workforce and cause farmers and related industries across the country significant economic harm, as well as driving up food prices for consumers,”

    Why are you afraid that food prices will rise? In a free market economy rising prices would be the expected result of a shortage of labor. If farmers cannot get enough labor for the wage they’re paying, they need to raise wages. It’s called supply and demand. If wages were high enough, whites would pick, just as they did before the Mex invasion. This wouldn’t harm America, it would be GOOD for America. Such a policy would not “deprive the agricultural sector of most of its workforce”, just most of its cheap-cost-of-labor workforce.

    And that cheap-cost-of-labor workforce is precisely the reason that “California, where farming is a $37.5 billion business, is the largest agricultural state in the nation.” All of the family farms in other states were either put out of business because they could not compete with California’s unfair labor practices or they were forced to higher illegals themselves.

    And this woman is a member of the supposedly “labor friendly”, Union-supporting Democratic Party?

    • me

      The ‘Demokratic Party’ is just another term for Marxism. Racist, anti-White, anti-Christian, anti-family Marxism.

    • NorthSea

      “Labor LEADER friendly”. The Democratic Party has been in bed with Wall Street since the 70s when Tony Coelho taught liberals how to perform lap dances for financiers.

    • mobilebay

      How about another Industrial Revolution? Machines doing most farm work would cut down the need for illegal labor, although most illegals have “graduated” to all sorts of work that citizens would love the chance to do.

  • Daniel Schmuhl

    Whatever benefits immigration may have in terms of labor market efficiency are vastly outweighed by the costs in terms of welfare, crime, and voting externalities. Economists

    • IstvanIN

      We could pay more for food and less in taxes.

    • Bossman

      Not true at all. Which economists? Can you name them?

      • Daniel Schmuhl

        This is in the econ textbooks by Mankiw and many others, its basically the standard position.

  • E_Pluribus_Pluribus

    Illegal aliens work exceedingly cheaply. They are easy to exploit. But that doesn’t make using them the right thing to do. Consider, for example, the already dismal prospects for America’s young:

    “This is a Great Depression for teens, and no time in history have we encountered anything like that,” said Andrew Sum, director of the Center for Labor Market Studies at Northeastern University in Boston, in the Aug. 30 article by McClatchy News Bureau, “Teen employment stuck at record lows.”

    A “plethora of research shows that teens who work do better in a wide range of social and economic indicators. The plunging teen employment rate is likely to mean trouble for this generation of young workers of all races.”

    Let wages rise. Use American workers, including teens.

    • MBlanc46

      That will happen right after the Abominable Snowman is discovered.

      • me

        Wage increases will only lead to higher taxes by the Fed govt. They will continue to rob the working class to give the fruits of our labor to the biggest ‘welfare queens’–corporations, the military, and non-Whites. This will never change unless White working-class families demand that our ‘elected officials’ go back into behaving like the ‘public servants’ that they are.

        • me

          I forgot the biggest tax consuming entities of all, the criminal mafia shakedown entities known as the Federal Reserve and the bankers.

          • NorthSea

            We don’t dare offend the bankers. That’s the labor pool from which the Community Organizer-in-Chief draws his Treasury Secretaries.

    • Entry-level jobs once filled by teens have gone to illegal aliens. The high school dropouts are the really tragic cases; with no marketable skills, they’re permanently stuck competing with illegals for low-paying McJobs.

  • IstvanIN

    Agricultural Engineers are always working on new ways to harvest crops with little human intervention. That is one of the reason’s we feed many more people with far fewer farmers and farm workers. Some of today’s automatic farm machines are truly marvelous. We simply do not need low IQ peasants.

    • MikeofAges

      Have heard, Mexican farms are more mechanized than their American counterparts. The American farmer lives off of cheap labor. The most heretical suggestion I ever heard came from economist Thomas Sowell. He said that we could stop growing food entirely and buy other countries’ agricultural surpluses. Maybe not plausible, and I don’t think he intended it as such, but American agriculture could producing stop labor intensive crops in favor of the capital intensive crop which could be sold in the export market. The end of cheap labor would force American farmers to adapt.

      • IstvanIN

        A number of years ago Rush Limbaugh said something similar about how we could import our food from lower cost countries. Insane, of course. Not only is there prospect of being held hostage for food but food represents wealth. Money is not wealth. Wealth is only created by producing something of value. Crops have value. Manufactured goods have value. Minerals have value. If we use the logic that everything can be imported, what will we trade these imports for?

        • me

          You have summed up the USA’s financial crisis in one paragraph, better than any ‘economic specialist’, government politician, or talking head has ever accomplished. Well done, sir!

          • IstvanIN

            Because it is true. A country that doesn’t produce anything tangible, with exception of Monaco, will be poor. Zimbabwe has much more natural “wealth” than Japan, but which is richer? Japan, because it creates.

          • In Japan’s case, it is value added. Exports of unrefined minerals isn’t a guarantee of national prosperity, but when one exports finished goods, one is also exporting the labor that went into producing them. The Congo exports coltan, the ore that niobium and tantalum come from, quite valuable for producing computer chips. Japan exports finished electronics parts. Where is the money being made? An educated population with a strong work ethic is a more valuable resource than minerals, which are really just an accident of geology. Iceland has virtually nothing going for it except its people, and these are per capita the seventh most productive in the world.

          • IstvanIN

            Added value is probably more important than anything else. Africans have the natural resources, they just can not not do anything with them. Just imagine how wealthy Zimbabwe would be if Mugabe had allowed the white farmers to farm and instead built up the added value aspect of Zimbabwe’s (former) tremendous agricultural output.

        • MikeofAges

          I don’t think this suggestion was intended to be taken literally, no matter who made it. But there are alternatives to the present system. I also wonder just how many farm workers, either migrant or resident seasonal, are really needed. I don’t know the answer, but I suspect it might be less than people think. Needed migrant workers could be paid properly to compensate them for their privations, tracked and required to go home after maybe an eight month tour. The ones who are true migrant workers I have heard spend about six month in the United States working and six month in Mexico, where they have homes and families. They may look strange to us, but they are, with a few exceptions, peaceful, law-abiding men who want to earn money. If they look shabby, it is because they are not spending their money on clothes and accommodations. I have seen them up close.

          If farmers were deprived of a cheap labor supply they would modify how they grow and what they grow as needed.

          • Bossman

            Your last statement makes no sense at all.

          • MikeofAges

            Farmers can change what they grow. They can switch from a labor intensive crop to one that can be more mechanized. The only ones who are stuck growing one thing are the ones who grow tree crops. In that event, they are faced with the choice of continuing to grow the crop they always have grown or taking out their trees and planting something else. Sometimes orchards are removed, but not often.

          • On the other hand, we have mechanical “tree-shakers” that vibrate things like pistachio trees until the desired produce falls off.

    • Bossman

      Yes, we still need low IQ peasants. It will be a very long time before robots can do all the low-status menial jobs.

      • IstvanIN

        No we do not. We have plenty of people right here in American who could do those job. Plenty of able bodied men and women whose only pursuit is making more of their own to go on welfare. The peasants need to stay south of the border.

        • Bossman

          The peasants are here because they’re needed. Most of them were invited to come and many have overstayed their temporary welcome.

  • willbest

    If food prices went up all the vibrant would have to take less cash for their SNAP cards, and they might have to sell their body to supplement the cost of their drug addiction. This in turn leads to more welfare babies, which we ALL have to pay for. So clearly, making sure illegals take jobs Americans won’t do off the books for sub min. wage is in the best interest of all the taxpayers.

    /sarc

  • truthteller

    hmm

  • WR_the_realist

    Yes, food prices would go up if the people who did the farm work were legal residents and paid a living wage. By having the 21st century equivalent of slave labor instead, food prices can be kept down despite massive money printing by the federal government. So we see that one crime can used to cover for another.

    • Major

      Fact is…they say a head of lettuce wouldn’t go up by more than 10 cents…if that happened.

  • NeanderthalDNA

    Heehee, sure. Know when middle ages slobs had it best? Right after a gigantic plague wiped out half the population. Was a workers’ paradise until the babies – partly enabled by the post plague boom – inundated the place again.

    Gotta find that silver lining, you know?

  • Bossman

    I’ve not looked into Maine’s agricultural situation but it is fact that most states import seasonal workers. Even Canada imports seasonal workers from Mexico and the Caribbean.

  • jeffaral

    Please Dianne Feinstein, can you inform the american public about your position on illegal immigrants -infiltrators according to israeli authorities- in Israel?

  • prunepit

    I live in California. About thirty years ago my teenage boys rode their bikes out to a nearby field and asked to work picking strawberries. The foreman refused them because they didn’t speak Spanish! When I was a kid fruit picking was a major source of summer income along with lawn mowing – another occupation taken over by Mexicans.

    • Major

      How do you say strawberry in spanglish?

  • prunepit

    We have lots of unemployed black citizens in California, but I have never seen a single black person working in the fields.

    • Bossman

      Because it reminds them too of the plantations that they escaped from.

      • prunepit

        Slavery ended nearly a hundred fifty years ago, none of the unemployed blacks in California ever worked on a plantation, and the vast majority have lived in urban environments since the middle of the last century. The only memory that is ineradicable is their evolutionary memory and that refers to evoltionary home. Abraham Lincoln was right in pledging to send them back to Africa.

        • Major

          And if they had known what horror they’d unleash on America …they’d have picked their own cotton.

  • Hans Schneider

    why do blacks on welfare not work in the fields ??

    • IstvanIN

      welfare and crime

    • Bossman

      Because it reminds them too much of slavery. When their ancestors were brought over from Africa, it was to do precisely that.

  • NorthSea

    Chuck Schumer says they’re coming anyway, may as well make them legal.

  • odious liberal

    F*** the farmers. This is just an excuse to keep labor prices lower and induce serfdom.

    • Bossman

      But these serfs are not citizens. Agriculture has always depended on non-citizens. Why do you think African slavery in America lasted for over 300 years?

      • prunepit

        Before WW I something like 75% of Americans lived on family farms. I have American ancestors going back to 1620 and none ever owned slaves or imported Mexicans to work in their fields.

        • Major

          Cause they now know that food is grown in supermarkets?

      • Major

        “Why do you think African slavery in America lasted for over 300 years?”

        Because John Deere’s hadn’t been invented yet? Most if not all slaves were…farm equipment, right? And I seriously doubt that their owners at the time would willfully abuse them. How would they be productive and get their products to market if all the workers were t0o abused or badly beaten to work?

  • Major

    Both from the same sewer…Pelousy too. Don’t forget her. It’s the worst thing that’s happened to Congress was to allow these harpies into it. And into the state department…and into the oval office…and into government, period. They don’t have the right DNA, period.

  • gregCall

    Slightly higher food prices in exchange for more available employment at better wages for Americans AND less illegals, I can live with that in fact I’d welcome it. Slightly higher food prices is a small price to pay to block illegals from their ill gotten gains.

  • NeanderthalDNA

    I think the “great unspoken” (race differences and their implications) is part of what has turned the Truth sanitized political debate so nasty and polarized. Whites grasp about for the “cause of all the problems”. Some, incapable of seeing the 1000 lb. invisible gorilla in the room, insist on blaming “the other” ideology, adhering to their own inordinately.

    The anger and cynicism grow yearly as regardless of which ideology gives it a crack at “fixing all the problems”, the 1200 lb gorilla just keeps sucking up more and more resources, breaking furniture and ripping out copper, and every now and then brutalizing one of the diner guests. But it can’t be that, so we political minded a-racial Whites keep pontificantly blaming the stupid left or the stupid right or whatever while…

    the 1600 lb invisible parasite gorilla just keeps wrecking and eating and growing and destroying…

  • Hans Schneider

    there are plenty unemployed americans that can do the job or risk losing their unemployment money ! Feinstein is calling to continue illegal behaviour !

  • Bossman

    No! I’m not making myself look like a complete dunce. America benefits greatly from undocumented migrant labor. Low inflation is one such benefit.

  • Harry

    Instead of having illegal immigrants harvest our crops, why not send recruiters into middle, junior high, and high schools to recruit local kids?

    Why not send also send recruiters to unemployment offices, the poorer sections of any city, town, or local community?

    With illegal immigrants being hired illegally, unscrupulous bosses could easily exploit them because illegal immigrants cannot complain of abuses through the right channels, for fear of being caught by federal authorities..