Zimmerman Juror: Race Wasn’t a Factor, ‘Both Were Responsible’

Margaret Hartmann, New York Magazine, July 15, 2013

After weeks of media speculation on what the jurors in George Zimmerman’s murder trial might be thinking, one of the six women who acquitted him spoke out for the first time tonight. The woman appeared on Anderson Cooper 360 in silhouette and was identified only by her juror number, B-37. While the verdict sparked protests across the country and a massive discussion on race, the juror says the issue never came up in deliberations. “I thought all of us did not think race played a role,” she said. George Zimmerman would have “profiled anybody who came in and acted strange,” regardless of race, she explained, because he was “overeager to help people” in his neighborhood.

The juror said she feels Zimmerman’s “heart was in the right place. It just went terribly wrong.” She noted that “it’s everyone’s right to carry a gun,” but Zimmerman shouldn’t have gotten out of his car. “I think he’s guilty of not using good judgment,” she said. However, she feels that at some point their “roles changed.” “Trayvon decided that he wasn’t going to let him scare him and get the one-over, up on him, or something,” she said. “And I think Trayvon got mad and attacked him.”

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It was reported earlier that juror B-37 plans to write a book about her experience with her attorney husband, but Anderson Cooper said she insists they don’t want to profit from the case. She wanted the public to know that the jurors considered everything very carefully, and cried after they reached their verdict. “It was just hard, thinking that somebody lost their life, and there’s nothing else that could be done about it,” she said. “It’s a tragedy this happened, but it happened. And I think both were responsible for the situation they had gotten themselves into.  I think both of them could have walked away. It just didn’t happen.”

Update: Well, that was fast. Juror B-37’s literary agent, Sharlene Martin, announced on Twitter just before midnight, “After careful consideration of the book project with Zimmerman #JurorB37, I have decided to rescind my offer of representation.” Moments later she posted a statement from the juror herself.

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  • Spartacus

    I always hate defending a non-white but… How was Zimmerman responsible for getting attacked by the gangsta-wannabe ?

    • capnmorgan5150

      Because he got out of his truck in his own neighborhood, and as we all know now, that’s somehow immoral.

    • Fighting_Northern_Spirit

      A lot of play is made by leftists about the 911 dispatcher telling GZ “to stay in his car [sic]”, drawing inferences that GZ was thus the aggressor. A close examination of the call shows that GZ got out of his truck and was breathing hard, as if running; the dispatcher noticed and said “we don’t need you to do that”. This next part is never mentioned by leftists: GZ said “OK,” his breathing returned to normal, indicating that if he was running before, he was no longer, and he stopped to chat with the dispatcher for almost two minutes. All the evidence indicates that GZ indeed was headed back to his truck, which was parked not that far away from the scene. All of this was hashed out last year, even on lefty law blogs, and GZ’s version of events was the only one that made sense given the location of his truck, the location of St. Skittles’ death, and the distance to TM’s father’s girlfriend’s unit.
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      All of this was not delved into very deeply in the trial, with the prosecution depending on the racial aspect to blind everyone to the facts. Zimmerman was very very lucky in this case; nothing this juror has said indicates that she or the other jurors had a firm grip on the chronology or the facts, relying rather on their intuition. That intuition swung in GZ’s favor, this time. It could’ve easily swung in the opposite direction.

      • capnmorgan5150

        I’ve commented on many Youtube videos that the dispatcher said “we don’t need you to do that” not “stay in your vehicle”. I guess the blacks and liberals just don’t like dealing in facts.

        • Luca

          Liberals never let facts, logic or common sense get in the way of their agenda.

      • Nathanwartooth

        I agree, reading that was kind of scary.

        She basically said they wanted to convict him, but because of the law they couldn’t.

        They could have easily just ignored the law and convicted him anyway. That’s probably why it took 16 hours.

    • English Sparrow

      He dared challenge one of the sainted ones.

  • A few random related thoughts:

    1. Look up the phrase “eliminationist hate.” It’s relevant here. Even if GZ faces no more legal action, it doesn’t matter, because Official America is spreading eliminationist hate against him.

    2. If we had a President that cared, here’s how he or she would guarantee GZ’s safety:

    The President should carry on him or her at all times a piece of paper that seems to have writing on it and room for a Presidential signature, even if it’s a Potemkin prop, and an ink pen. He should let on like the document would cut off gibsmedat welfare benefits to all black recipients.

    Broadcast this threat: If George Zimmerman is murdered, he signs the document, and the EBT cards in Bell Curve City stop working forever.

    At that point, the NBPP will instantly turn from GZ’s tormenters to his body guards.

    Now, does the President have the legal authority to do this? Probably not. But does that matter? No. Do we expect members of the black undertow to understand this nuance? They won’t. As long as they depend on gibsmedat to survive, they’re going to do whatever they can almost to the point of paranoia to keep the gibs comin’ in. To the extent a lot of ghetto blacks “work,” “go to school,” etc., it’s to obey conditions of whatever welfare program they’re on.

    There is precedent for this from surprising quarters. In his 2004 autobiography, entitled My Fault, Bill Clinton describes an incident from his time as Arkansas Governor. Some compound of troublemakers in the state was causing trouble, and several people in the compound who the cops wanted wouldn’t come out. So Clinton signed a gubernatorial order cutting off food stamp benefits for everyone inside the compound until the wanted gave themselves up. Which they did in very short order.

    • capnmorgan5150

      Slightly off topic, but I did see someone make the comment that if you can call Zimmerman a White Hispanic, why don’t they call Obama a White African? They’re both half White.

      • Sqeptique

        Both are hybrids. Look it up. One of the mothers chose to improve her offspring by choosing a mate having a much higher IQ than her own people. The other mother chose to go down to the most primitive race on earth in her mate selection.

        • MerlinV

          One of the mothers missed the memo:

          It will be seen that when we classify mankind by color, the only primary race that has not made a creative contribution to any civilization is the Black race. — Dr. Arnold Toynbee, Historian

          In most if not all of the newly independent Black nations of Africa, little if anything during the past 5000 or more years can be pointed to as having made a contribution that in any way enhances the life of man. — Walter Arnold, The Evolution of Man in Relation to That of the Earth, Part V, The Mankind Quarterly, Vol. X, No.2 (Oct-Dec 1969) p. 78.

          The major cause for American Negroes intellectual and social deficits is hereditary and racially genetic in origin and thus not remedial to a major degree by improvement in environment. — Dr. William Shockley, Stanford University, Nobel Prize winner

          Never yet could I find that a Black had uttered a thought above the level of plain narration… never saw an elementary tract of painting or sculpture. — Thomas Jefferson, U.S. President

          Black people never founded a government nor made a single step toward civilization that did not soon lapse in barbarism, except under the fostering care and guidance of White people. — Thomas Hardwick, U.S. Congressman

          Whatever may be the sociological value of the legal fiction that ‘all men are born free and equal,’ there can be no doubt that in its biological application, at any rate, this statement is one of the most stupendous falsehoods ever uttered by man through his misbegotten gift of articulate speech. — Dr. Earnest Hooton, Professor of Anthropology, Harvard University

          • baldowl

            Thanks for this. I’ll be posting it elsewhere, with a link to this article.

      • Nathanwartooth

        Because a “White Hispanic” is not a half White half Latino/whatever.

        A White Hispanic is a person of European lineage who usually has a Spanish surname and was raised in that culture.

    • bigone4u

      Interesting story about Clinton’s action, but given that he is the source of the story it may not be 100 percent true. It might depend on what the meaning of “is” is.

  • Three things:

    Obviously this woman already went to sell her story before she was even sequestered. And how does her husband have a perspective?

    Until the names are made public, anyone make claim to being a Zimmerman juror.

    I think the media needs to be careful about who they are paying for interviews and other things.

  • Luca

    This juror gave a clear, concise, lucid, fair accounting of this incident. GZ was perhaps over zealous and fed up with all the crime in the area and the fact that the perps always got away. But he did nothing illegal. However, if TM would have had a gun, he could have used it without warning as fast as a sucker punch. I personally would never follow shady ghetto vermin like that.

    Having said that, it was TM who through his own illegal, violent reaction lit the fuse and set the stage for his own demise. He is entirely responsible. But the liberal media will never let the narrative stray off script as they want to continue this bonfire so the public is distracted from all the Obama scandals and economic disasters.

  • din_do_nuffins

    Whites can’t write books about race unless they blame Whites.

    • Winston Merryweather

      So true. In fact, we are supposed to be a race-less people while everyone else has a racial identity.

  • din_do_nuffins

    White aren’t allow to write books about race unless they blame the White community for everything.

  • borogirl54

    I think that she is doing the right thing. She and other jurors need to stay low to avoid hatred and animosity from the black and other minority communities who feel that justice was not served.

  • Romulus

    Holy cow! What a news day ladies and gents. Seems there is no lack of storys today! Is this the fuse of the powder keg?! Will the commies trash the bill of rights?! Tune in tonight and every night for updates and keep your powder dry!!!!

  • sbuffalonative

    There’s also this gem:

    “MORGAN: You felt that there was no doubt in your mind from what Trayvon was telling you on the phone about the creepy ass cracka and so on, that he absolutely believed that George Zimmerman, this man, you didn’t know who he was at the time, but this man, was pursuing him?
    JEANTEL: Yes.
    MORGAN: And he was freaked out by it?
    JEANTEL: Yes. Definitely after I say may be a rapist, for every boy, for every man, every — who’s not that kind of way, seeing a grown man following them, would they be creep out?”

    Homosexuals call this the Gay Defense. They have rallied against it for years. It’s generally used by a straight man who kills a gay man for making unwelcome advances.

    Salon also mentioned this but called it a ‘phobic’ reaction. He didn’t say homophobic.
    The left doesn’t want it to come out that Mr. Martin may have attacked Mr. Zimmerman because Trayvon thought George was gay.

    • IstvanIN

      Because 6’2” black males are attacked and raped so often by short, fat, “white”, gay men.

    • Nathanwartooth

      Steve Sailer pointed this out about a month ago on his blog.

      When I mentioned it to people, they thought that I was insane and that it was too far of a stretch. I conceded that maybe it was.

      Then this gem comes out and confirms what Steve thought was true. Steve Sailer has a crazy intuition about these things.

  • Eagle_Eyed

    The law won. Watching her now, it is clear that the women were susceptible to a line of thinking which is common to the fairer sex–that is that confrontation should be avoided at all times, why can’t we all just get along-type pascifism.

    Of course women aren’t responsible, by and large, for securing peace. That is what husbands and fathers do. Most cops and soldiers are men. Self-defense laws are for their protection. Men have responsibilities frankly most women don’t and can’t relate to.

    So I was skeptical GZ would walk because I was sure that the women would seek to punish Zimmerman with something…it’s just that they couldn’t. And to their credit, they followed the law and weren’t bullied into the race canard.

    • IstvanIN

      To there credit they followed the law more than Angela Corey and her tax-payer paid goons.

    • GeneticsareDestiny

      “I was sure that the women would seek to punish Zimmerman with something…it’s just that they couldn’t. And to their credit, they followed the law and weren’t bullied into the race canard.”

      Yes, this was what I thought would happen too. As soon as I knew the jury was all-female and that manslaughter was an option, I was certain they would choose that, as a way to try to placate both sides.

      I was pleasantly surprised to see that they did their job admirably and did not succumb to feminine tendencies to desire peace above all.

      • David Ashton

        I think they all went over the evidence with more care and were obliged to acquit GZ in the end.

  • Jefferson

    The Blacks on the internet are going ape$hit over the juror B-37’s comment that George Zimmerman’s heart was in the right place.

    Some Blacks on the internet are even threatening to murder her for saying that. These Sub Saharans sure are a “friendly civilized” race aren’t they ?

    • GeneticsareDestiny

      “Some Blacks on the internet are even threatening to murder her for saying that. These Sub Saharans sure are a “friendly civilized” race aren’t they ?”

      Definitely. I’ve even seen some white liberals, mostly women, leaping into the fray to try to defend the 70 IQ Urban Americans with tired old arguments about how it’s okay to “have rage” against “white supremacy” and that if an “oppressed class” rises up against the “oppressing class” using violence, it’s not wrong.

      They’re basically condoning murder. That’s how desperate they are to not let the entire edifice of institutional liberalism collapse.

      • CourtneyfromAlabama

        “I’ve even seen some white liberals, mostly women…..”

        The longer I am in this movement, I am really not so sure that this is a male/female issue like people make it out to be. Women are the more emotional and irrational of the two, and for those reasons they shouldn’t be voting and they shouldn’t be on juries. But they most certainly aren’t the leaders of the liberal movement. Women wouldn’t be acting that way if they didn’t have someone to follow as an example.

        I fully acknowledge that there are differences between the two genders, and that women shouldn’t be allowed to do certain things. When I first joined this movement I was constantly attacking feminists. But the longer I have been in this movement, and have seen so many comments that blame women for our race’s problems, the more sensitive I have become, and the more I try to approach this topic with caution.

        • Nathanwartooth

          Oh you are right, men are behind it. The females who are spouting this stuff are just victims of it.

          • CourtneyfromAlabama

            Did you read everything I said in my post? Obviously not. Don’t put words in my mouth. I said that for the longest time I was always on here attacking feminists and supporting white males. But after being on here a while, and after reading too many comments where white women are getting blamed for the downfall of our race, and only white women, I can’t help but be a little careful and weary of this topic lately.

          • Nathanwartooth

            You know that my comment wasn’t sarcastic, right? I was agreeing with you.

            When you look back to the start of political correctness, the immigration act that flooded this country with 3rd worlders, etc. you are going to find men behind it.

            Also just blaming one gender is kind of silly, since neither gender as a whole did anything. It was just a few people pushing their agenda that a lot of people fell prey to.

            I wasn’t trying to be a dick or anything, just saying that I agree women are not at fault and I don’t blame them for anything.

          • Joseph Bryant

            There is nothing more pathetic and creepy than a White male idolizing Asian women. But to do so on a site such as this is not only pathetic and creepy, it’s utterly clueless and a slap in the face to the entire movement.

        • GeneticsareDestiny

          Yes, you are right. I think I tend to give women more gruff about it because I am one and it gets very tiring to see my fellow white women, the people who are responsible for bringing forth the next generation of white children, acting so irresponsibly and foolishly. I think women tend to have much sillier behavior when it comes to race, probably because they feel empathetic for the “poor oppressed people of color”.

          Liberal white men are also to blame for the state of the nation. Women are more naturally followers rather than leaders, and liberal racial egalitarianism would have gone nowhere without male leadership directing the movement.

          • Joseph Bryant

            Right. Blaming women to me is just like how some people go on and on about the Jews. Sorry, folks, but Lyndon Johnson wasn’t Jewish, or female, and neither was Ted Kennedy. Yet those two are more responsible for the current mess in this country than anyone else.

  • bigone4u

    Juror B37 is wrong–Martin and Zimm are not equally responsible. Trayvon Martin is 100 percent responsible for his death–morally and legally. Zimm is 0 percent responsible.

  • BlarneyMiller

    The fact that the juror chose to be blackened out on Piers Morgan and the fact that other jurors are afraid to come forth because of death threats and possible attacks is scary. We’re accepting this like it’s nothing, but the threats of violence to jurors jeopardizes our legal system; and the violence happening currently happening in our cities and to innocent victims threatens our way of life. I simply do not understand how white America has not been more forceful the past few days.

    • capnmorgan5150

      I agree, it’s like something out of the Twilight Zone. We’re constantly under the thumbs of the blacks and liberals. Scary stuff to be sure.

  • briebo1

    That is the problem here – if they were both responsible – than Martin paid a high price with his life – Zimmerman paid no price gets no legal reprimand for his irresponsible behavior. How can she believe GZ was irresponsible and not give him manslaughter. Yes, she admits she believes Martin was afraid – we know from texts that Martin thought GZ was a “pervert” – which is understandable with how perverted crimes are publicized – someone starts following you by car and then on foot – hate to say it has happened to me – I immediately thought pervert too. So Martin shouldn’t have fought GZ – was it understandable to the juror – yes. And she concedes GZ’s behavior was wrong and he shouldn’t have followed Martin and that he went too far – but she sympathizes because there had been robberies in the neighborhood. Well OK – but doesn’t he deserve punishment for those wrong actions because he brought the confrontation with Martin on himself – that is manslaughter. I will say they did win with an all women jury on this – most all men have been in or seen fights – if their friend came up and told them that they had taken 20+ punches to the face and all they had was a mildly broken nose, and that his head had been pounded into concrete 20+ times and all he had was a scrape – most men would laugh and tell their friend to take their BS somewhere else – cause most men have at least some experience with fighting injuries. Only a woman or a really pussy man could see GZ’s injuries and actually believe his story and further think he really thought he was going to die. Most men if they saw GZ’s injuries would laugh their asses off if the person recounted fearing death when they received them.

    • BlarneyMiller

      Hey Matlock, you may want to look up the elements of manslaughter and you may want to look up on what confrontation grounds one can use force. Here’s a hint — Martin wasn’t legally justified in using force even if he thought Zimmerman was following him, and Zimmerman is not guilty of manslaughter simply by virtue of having followed Martin.

      Don’t worry, though. Hardly any other Trayvon supporters are smart enough to grasp the law either.

      • Nathanwartooth

        This guy is just a troll. He goes around to all of the websites posting pro Trayvon garbage.

        He even thinks that baby tray tray had a 3.7 GPA!! HAHAHA

        He also reads Media Matters. He is a commie piece of garbage who the current day Russians would send to Siberia to break rocks.

        • Rachel Jeantel had a 3.0, so why wouldn’t Skittles the Great have a 3.7?

          • Nathanwartooth

            If Rachel Jeantel had a 3.0, then I had a 9.0 GPA.

    • David Ashton

      I don’t think a careful examination of the evidence completely sustains your view.

  • c684570

    I’m sure most people who are about to commit murder CALL THE POLICE AND INFORM THEM OF THEIR LOCATION before it happens.

    It just makes sense, right?

    • ncpride

      No kidding. Zimmerman supposedly ‘hunted down and murdered an unarmed black child’ so the logical thing for him to do beforehand is call and ask for help from the police. Makes perfect sense… NOT.

  • DailyKenn

    Race was made a factor by the mainstream Marxist media.

    • Creepy as a cracker!

      A little off topic, just checked out your web-site. I added it to my favorites bar. Keep up the good work!

      • DailyKenn

        🙂

  • anon

    The juror is scared of the apes finding out her identity. I would be, in her position.

  • disqus_Xz3UA6obwj

    Why no public outcry over the untold millions being made by the black victimology channel (CNN) that has been exploiting and distorting this case 24/7 for weeks now?

  • Fighting_Northern_Spirit

    If I were a juror, I would stay silent and hidden. No way in heck would I trust the media to keep my identity secret, they have neither integrity nor honor.

  • Evette Coutier

    This entire incident could have been avoided. Martin’s parent could have taught him to not attack other people. If Martin had acted like a reasonable human being and not an out of control wild animal, he’d be eating shuttles right now.

  • Joseph

    “…a massive discussion on race…”

    Yeah, it always goes something like “White supremacy disguised as conservatism is at the root of all of the problems in the country.”

    End of discussion.

    • Creepy as a cracker!

      Same old broken record, I am getting sick and tired of it! I would think that by now the left would come up with something a little more tangible.

      • robinbishop34

        “I would think that by now the left would come up with something a little more tangible. “

        They don’t need to. Their constituency is made up of people who are fueled by visceral emotion, not logic.

        • David Ashton

          This is an MSM-POTUS-NAACP-created opportunity for leftist agitators once again to build up their cadres for violent protest and eventual revolution, anticipating further economic crisis in which unemployed black-and-white-unite against “racism”, “capitalism” and “inequality”. Look at the Socialist Worker and CPUSA webistes for starters.

    • Evette Coutier

      Their discussion on race is a one sided lecture on the evils of whites. And talk of the short coming of blacks is racist. Any positive talk of whites is racist against blacks. The only conversation they will consider is racially based bigotry against whites. There is no conversation with these people.

  • CourtneyfromAlabama

    Let’s not get too carried away here with the negativity. Look, I don’t think women should be on juries at all. We should be angry at the people in power a long time ago who decided to allow women to be on juries, let alone vote.

    But what matters right now, is that these women made the right decision despite their emotional and irrational tendencies as women. What the women ALMOST did or what some of them are saying now, shouldn’t matter. I am thankful they came up with the right verdict despite all the pressure.

  • candide

    The time will come, make no mistake, when blacks will need to feel the anger of whites who have put up with their lawlessness and depravity for too long.

  • bigbiz2

    When Martin decided to go back..instead of going home where his young brother was left alone and attack Zimmerman he became a felon..Nothing Zimmerman did was any crime.He was a homeowner there .He was a homeowner.Martin was a stranger walking off the sidewalk snooping around Zimmerman killed a Felon…so good..

  • David Ashton

    Even more innocent lil black chillun shot dead by cracker cops!

  • libertarian1234

    You’re right on.

    The job of a neighborhood watchman is to monitor the neighborhood for suspicious activity and report it to the police if he sees any, and if he has to get out of his vehicle and walk a few feet in one direction or another that’s part of the job in order to find and an identifying address….in this case….because the 911 dispatcher asked for one.

    Zimmerman wasn’t actually following the thug he was repositioning himself to see better what he was up to and he needed an address so he could report the location of the perp.

    I’m pretty sure the dispatcher warned Zimmerman off as a standard advisement policy for no other reason than he might be putting himself in jeopardy from attack by a perpetrator. He went back to his vehicle but was attacked any way, probably….as Limbaugh stated…..because the perp thought he was a homosexual rapist.