Signs of Declining Economic Security

Hope Yen, AP, July 29, 2013

Four out of 5 U.S. adults struggle with joblessness, near-poverty or reliance on welfare for at least parts of their lives, a sign of deteriorating economic security and an elusive American dream.

Survey data exclusive to The Associated Press points to an increasingly globalized U.S. economy, the widening gap between rich and poor, and the loss of good-paying manufacturing jobs as reasons for the trend.


As nonwhites approach a numerical majority in the U.S., one question is how public programs to lift the disadvantaged should be best focused–on the affirmative action that historically has tried to eliminate the racial barriers seen as the major impediment to economic equality, or simply on improving socioeconomic status for all, regardless of race.

Hardship is particularly growing among whites, based on several measures. Pessimism among that racial group about their families’ economic futures has climbed to the highest point since at least 1987. In the most recent AP-GfK poll, 63 percent of whites called the economy “poor.”


While racial and ethnic minorities are more likely to live in poverty, race disparities in the poverty rate have narrowed substantially since the 1970s, census data show. Economic insecurity among whites also is more pervasive than is shown in the government’s poverty data, engulfing more than 76 percent of white adults by the time they turn 60, according to a new economic gauge being published next year by the Oxford University Press.

The gauge defines “economic insecurity” as experiencing unemployment at some point in their working lives, or a year or more of reliance on government aid such as food stamps or income below 150 percent of the poverty line. Measured across all races, the risk of economic insecurity rises to 79 percent.

Marriage rates are in decline across all races, and the number of white mother-headed households living in poverty has risen to the level of black ones.


Nationwide, the count of America’s poor remains stuck at a record number: 46.2 million, or 15 percent of the population, due in part to lingering high unemployment following the recession. While poverty rates for blacks and Hispanics are nearly three times higher, by absolute numbers the predominant face of the poor is white.

More than 19 million whites fall below the poverty line of $23,021 for a family of four, accounting for more than 41 percent of the nation’s destitute, nearly double the number of poor blacks.

Sometimes termed “the invisible poor” by demographers, lower-income whites generally are dispersed in suburbs as well as small rural towns, where more than 60 percent of the poor are white. Concentrated in Appalachia in the East, they are numerous in the industrial Midwest and spread across America’s heartland, from Missouri, Arkansas and Oklahoma up through the Great Plains.


By race, nonwhites still have a higher risk of being economically insecure, at 90 percent. But compared with the official poverty rate, some of the biggest jumps under the newer measure are among whites, with more than 76 percent enduring periods of joblessness, life on welfare or near-poverty.


The numbers come from Rank’s analysis being published by the Oxford University Press. They are supplemented with interviews and figures provided to the AP by Tom Hirschl, a professor at Cornell University; John Iceland, a sociology professor at Penn State University; the University of New Hampshire’s Carsey Institute; the Census Bureau; and the Population Reference Bureau.

Among the findings:

-For the first time since 1975, the number of white single-mother households living in poverty with children surpassed or equaled black ones in the past decade, spurred by job losses and faster rates of out-of-wedlock births among whites. White single-mother families in poverty stood at nearly 1.5 million in 2011, comparable to the number for blacks. Hispanic single-mother families in poverty trailed at 1.2 million.

-Since 2000, the poverty rate among working-class whites has grown faster than among working-class nonwhites, rising 3 percentage points to 11 percent as the recession took a bigger toll among lower-wage workers. Still, poverty among working-class nonwhites remains higher, at 23 percent.

-The share of children living in high-poverty neighborhoods – those with poverty rates of 30 percent or more – has increased to 1 in 10, putting them at higher risk of teenage pregnancy or dropping out of school. Non-Hispanic whites accounted for 17 percent of the child population in such neighborhoods, compared with 13 percent in 2000, even though the overall proportion of white children in the U.S. has been declining.

The share of black children in high-poverty neighborhoods dropped from 43 percent to 37 percent, while the share of Latino children went from 38 percent to 39 percent.

-Race disparities in health and education have narrowed generally since the 1960s. While residential segregation remains high, a typical black person now lives in a nonmajority black neighborhood for the first time. Previous studies have shown that wealth is a greater predictor of standardized test scores than race; the test-score gap between rich and low-income students is now nearly double the gap between blacks and whites.

Going back to the 1980s, never have whites been so pessimistic about their futures, according to the General Social Survey, a biannual survey conducted by NORC at the University of Chicago. Just 45 percent say their family will have a good chance of improving their economic position based on the way things are in America.

The divide is especially evident among those whites who self-identify as working class. Forty-nine percent say they think their children will do better than them, compared with 67 percent of nonwhites who consider themselves working class, even though the economic plight of minorities tends to be worse.


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  • Transpower

    The only anti-poverty program which works is strict laissez-faire capitalism, with a strictly-limited Constitutional Republic, and a strict meritocracy. Everything else is a socialist scheme, and the 20th century disproved every form of collectivism.

    • JohnEngelman

      Scandinavian Social Democracy works fine.

      The United States already tried “strict laissez-faire capitalism,” during the nineteenth century. The capitalists lived like European royalty. The workers worked twelve hour days six days a week and suffered greater poverty than welfare recipients do today.

      Laissez-faire capitalism was rejected throughout the twentieth century by the voters.

      • IstvanIN

        You are wrong on one point: the robber barons lived better than any royalty could have hoped to. Laissez-faire was a disaster for the average man. You have to have a balance between business, government and unions. You can not let any one of the three run rough shod over the others.

        • And Theodore Roosevelt, a Republican signed many of the necessary laws.

          • Formerly_Known_as_Whiteplight

            This was before the Red Scare of 1918-1921 (first of a number). From then on, labor reforms and what FDR accomplished, although obviously necessary, has since been viewed as “creeping socialism” – a front for a communist world revolution, as the Bolsheviks proclaimed in 1918. (FDR was a Democrat. The parties changed a great deal between the time of TR and FDR. FDR was carrying on with what TR had done).

            This is one good example of how issues become mixed up and exploited for political means, losing the best advantages of an issue or proposition. Even Leftists today, don’t seem to understand the historical separations between the traditional labor movements, Bolshevism and Frankfurt School Neo-Marxism. A good reason for this is that for example, the Bolsheviks did try to infiltrate the labor movements before WW2. Between that and organized crime later on, the average laborer has had a pretty tough time. We seem to be on the other end of things now, where we’re moving back to the exploitation of workers in the U.S. Herbert Marcuse and Emanuel Cellar of the Frankfurt school seized on the idea of making black civil rights the issue on which they would spread Marxism. They have succeeded tremendously, while workers get a lousier deal every year. Especially is they are white and male.

      • Puggg

        Maybe the right answer is a combination of both systems or a new system.

        Still, I don’t think this great taste versus less filling debate is really appropriate here, because this article is almost entirely a result of the American ruling class declaring war on white people.

        • Mike Lane

          The problem with a “mixed economy” is it has no objective ethic/moral code in which to be based off of. It’s just a utilitarian machine.

          • MBlanc46

            So, what objective ethic/moral code would you recommend?

          • Mike Lane

            The moral code that states every man has the right to take care of himself and that which is dear to him. The moral code that also states that no man owes any other man because of some arbitrary “right” the other has over him (e.g. the welfare state).

          • MBlanc46

            OK, fine. But others have no obligation whatever to abide by any code that you determine for them.

          • Mike Lane

            Of course not, but all that matters is if the government is modeled after that same ethic code

      • Daniel Schmuhl

        Ah the good old Scandinavian Socialism myth. Scandinavian countries score high on the economic freedom index so they’re far from socialist and the USA does not have a free market, it has a dysfunctional inefficient welfare state. Also Scandinaviais more ethnically homogenous.

        • Romulus

          Sweden doesn’t support 2/3 of the entire planets economies either. Only a dips**t like JE would present Sweden as an economic model. Did he forget that Sweden is the number 2rape capital of the world? Did he forget about the three weeks of rioting they had because of haji?

      • willbest

        Sweden has the population of Michigan, is the size of California, and the racial makeup of Vermont.

        • Sick of it

          In other words, they’re bound to succeed no matter what. Communism itself could be successful when applied to a SMALL population. Same with plain Democracy. Larger, more varied populations require something different, as we have been taught by history.

          • They WERE bound to succeed until their government began repopulating the nation with Somalis.

          • YourMOMA

            Swedish government wanted to slow down economic growth by bringing Somalis. The same thing is done in Montana.

        • Luca

          And they never suffered in WW2, they tax their citizens to death, have few ethnic ills, and spend less on defense than Columbia.

      • Sick of it

        Laissez-faire capitalism does not exist when government and corporations collude. That is also a form of socialism, known as fascism.

        • MBlanc46

          Then apparently we have fascism.

          • Sick of it

            It’s funny that the liberals brought up this point during the Bush years…then magically disappeared after the Obama administration was involved in the same dirty process. It reminds me of the liberals claiming they were for peace until Hitler invaded precious Mother Russia.

      • NM156

        Certainly, the success of Scandanavia’s social welfare systems has much to do with its ethnic homogeneity. Their success also has much to do with cheap Chinese labor, outsourcing, and deindustrialization, which saved their social systems from elephant-sized shortfalls and high unemployment 20 years ago.

      • Stiv44

        “Scandinavian Social Democracy works fine.”

        Yes, in nations that are still mostly white. It’s hell when blacks are involved.

        • JohnEngelman

          I agree with you. Unfortunately, most Social Democrats disagree with you. I hope they learn before it is too late.

          When War on Poverty programs made welfare benefits more generous and easier to qualify for in the United States during the 1960s millions of blacks quit low paying jobs and went on welfare. They knew the good life was out of reach, so they choose the easy life. Whites are less likely to behave that way.

      • Formerly_Known_as_Whiteplight

        The problem with Scandinavian social democracy is that they have used it to force immigration of non-whites into their countries. Do I need to remind you that Sweden has the second worse rape rate, next to South Africa? Rather than blame the government’s system and demand a cessation of those policies and start sending these criminals home, they are enduring a declared war inside their borders. Feminist Swedes blame ALL men for the rapes (look it up).

        It might have been a good system at one time, when it served Nordics, but this is the problem with any system, but especially socialism, it can’t be sustained indefinitely by the host and bringing in foreigners as a fix, as has been being done in Europe for several decades now, has proven to be a disaster and the likely doom of real Europe and real Europeans.

      • Transpower

        Laissez-faire capitalism brought us from a poor agricultural country to an industrial powerhouse. From 1865 to 1900 we had the fastest economic growth ever seen in the world. The voters who reject all of this are pathetically mis-educated.

    • Rhialto

      I don’t think that “one size fits all” is true of economic systems. Different societies have different goals and values. A Swedish system worked in Sweden because the Swedes were willing to pay the costs to get the benefits. Likewise a laissez-faire type economic system worked in Hong Kong for the same reason.

  • JohnEngelman

    Nevertheless, the rich keep getting richer. Does anyone seriously think ordinary Americans would be better off if the Republican Party dominated the United States. If so, why?

    • GB101

      I do.

      • IstvanIN

        I don’t. The Republicans are only very marginally less repugnant than the Demoncrats.

        • E_Pluribus_Pluribus

          You must have no knowledge of vote tallies on immigration bills.

      • I up-voted, but I don’t want a GOP that is merely a Jesus-freak version of the Democrats.

        • Mike Lane

          Ayn Rand made a great point: “conservatives”, deep down inside, are really just altruists. That is the major flaw of the Republican Party- they claim to support the upper-class infrastructure, yet support the philosophical tenet that we are our brother’s keeper.

    • E_Pluribus_Pluribus

      All 54 Democrat senators voted for the nation-and-people-destroying Senate amnesty/immigration acceleration bill. 70 percent of Republican senators voted NO. The GOP House, weak-kneed as its leadership are, is the only barrier between za besieged population and a never-ending, ever-growing amnesty/immigration surge. The Democratic Party is lethal. The GOP, disappointing as it sometimes is, is the only known antidote to its poisonous counterpart.

    • Triarius

      Less bad. The Republicans are idiots and Israelophiles, while the Democrats are downright traitorous.

      • JohnEngelman

        Both parties love Israel. So do I.

        • Triarius

          It boggles my mind why you love them when Israelis despise you. Google how gentiles are abused and spat on in Israel.

          • JohnEngelman

            If that happens at all it happens very rarely.

          • Triarius

            It isn’t rare.
            And let’s not start into the sexual slavery of Russians and former USSR states. Israel has nearly depleted an entire female generation from Moldova.

          • anarchyst

            Triarius, the Israelis don’t despise Mr. Engelman. . .he’s one of THEM.

          • Triarius

            Makes sense. Between his Marxist overtone, Jewish supremist insinuations, and his Israel-first attutide, I am not surprised.

          • ms_anthro

            Don’t forget his anti-White fetish for Orientals.

        • Whitetrashgang

          You are very sick, seek help.

          • JohnEngelman

            Those who are hostile to Jews, Judaism, and Israel lack the excuse of illness. They are resentful of Jewish superior intelligence and prosperity.

    • Nathanwartooth

      You have fallen for the “If only Republicans didn’t exist. The world would be perfect!” line. It’s stupid and you are being foolish by believing it.

      Think about this. If there weren’t so many poor people the Democrats would lose massive amounts of votes from people who just vote for more gimmies. They WANT to keep people poor and dependent on government handouts.

      Both of the parties hate the White middle class. But they just use different language and disguise it. The Democrats language has fooled you.

      This is also a logical fallacy called a false dichotomy. Just because the Democrats aren’t ruling doesn’t mean that it has to be Republicans. Could be a third party that actually cares about the country.

      • Sick of it

        Our country really was ruined by party politics. Washington himself warned us against factionalism. Now factions form massive voting blocs to pass ever more new legislation on a routine basis. Presidents rarely veto like they need to.

    • willbest

      The Republican billionaires tend to at least create things like energy and weaponry. The Democrat billionaires created the highest stakes casino the world has ever known and gamble our economy in it daily.

      • Luca

        The Government has no responsibility to elevate the poor, it is a political ploy of the left. People, family, neighbors, churches, and charities have a responsibility to help the poor. This is what we did before FDR and LBJ, and we managed just fine.

        As Friedman once said, there has never in the history of the world been a more effective tool to eliminate poverty than the free market, free enterprise system. The late 18th and early 19th centuries saw the greatest transformation from poor to middle-class to rich than any other period in history. What the free market system can’t do is eliminate laziness, ignorance, complacency, and those who are unwilling to participate in society.

        All the poverty we see today in the US is almost exclusively the work of government programs and actions. Welfare keeps the lazies, fat and happy, reproducing at will, talking on their “sail fones” and voting for the next Democratic sugar daddy.

    • NM156

      Eisenhower Republicans? Yes, we would probably be in far better shape, in all respects, if we had economically moderate Republicans in charge.

    • Luca

      Generally speaking, the rich will always get richer. And why shouldn’t they? They have developed formulas for getting rich and so they perpetuate those formulas. They spend countless hours educating themselves, they invest, they save, they take risks, they buy and sell, they build, they employ people, they hire professionals, etc.

      Generally speaking, the poor overpopulate, smoke, drink and eat what they can’t afford, are complacent, uneducated, don’t work hard, over finance, abuse credit, spend and do not save or invest. They are in denial and blame others for their failures. They do however, keep their Democratic friends in office who throw them money stolen from the rich and the middle class.

  • Viking_61

    Wake up! Wake up! Wake up!


    • robinbishop34

      Most whites just keep hitting the reality snooze button.

  • White people better wake up.

    This government is working against us. Regular White people can’t get jobs because there is no government incentive to hire them. No offense to ex-military, but the reason Chase bank advertises it hires ex-military is because it receives a tax credit for every one it hires. Potbelly’s hires ex-convicts for the same reason. The government also gives tax credits for welfare/SNAP recipients who I are hired. None of these credits are fair to anyone else qualified for the job, it is just subsidizing of wages by the government for certain classes of people.

  • bigone4u

    The traditional family is the foundation of true economic security. There in the family is found love and mutual sacrifice. And that is why the powers that be seek to destroy the traditional family and replace it with government handouts. That economic security is declining is due to the attack on the family. Preserving the family means rejecting the values of the MSM, TV, movies, feminism, and Cultural Marxism. It can be done.

    • The Final Solution

      The gays are doing their part in destroying the family, with the homo lifestyle constantly shoved down our throats. Look at the backlash against Russia for their heroic anti-gay policies and also Fergie’s “gayby” party (no joke).

      • disqus_Xz3UA6obwj

        All gays have heterosexual parents Jethro.

    • Sick of it

      Manufacturing goods in the homeland is another foundation of economic security. We have allowed almost everything to be exported for the sake of a global economy which cares nothing for our people.

  • Daniel Schmuhl

    I buy the thesis of Charles Murray’s book coming apart. The main source of these problems is the growing degeneracy of the working and lower classes.

  • disqus_Xz3UA6obwj

    Try making it a crime to have babies when you don’t have the financial resources to raise them instead of rewarding this immoral practice with food stamps and public housing. Let the financial burden of raising these children fall onto the immediate family members instead of unrelated taxpayers and see how quickly this stupid behavior stops. Welfare fails with a population so willing to exploit it.

    • capnmorgan5150

      I still think mandatory tubal ligation for welfare recipients who have one kid is a good idea. Otherwise you’re just rewarding people for irresponsible behavior.

      • Stentorian_Commentator

        Amen, and a vasectomy for any man who fathers a bastard and does not pay up child support in full.

        • capnmorgan5150

          I agree, but the guys would be harder to track down. Most of these “baby mammas” probably don’t know who the father is anyway.

  • GB101

    This is all BS.

    “The gauge defines “economic insecurity” as experiencing unemployment at some point in their working lives,”
    Tossing this in with reliance on welfare and being near poverty is silly. Being out of work? At some point in your life? I am surprised the figure isn’t higher than 80%.

    • Sick of it

      Around 20% of American workers make a professional wage. Everyone else is struggling to get by, no matter the numbers at any particular time.

      • GB101

        I have been out of work. It has been a long time, but a company I worked for went broke. I know lots of successful people who at one time or another have lost their jobs. I and many people I know, who are not financially stressed, would answer truthfully “Yes” if we were asked “Have you ever in your working life been unemployed?”
        So I am part of the 80%.
        There may be signs of trouble, but the survey doesn’t reveal it. The 80% figure is meaningless. The survey is meaningless. The so called “gauge” is not a gauge at all.

        • Sick of it

          I’d give you the SSA link for current wages, but apparently it’s down at the moment. Needless to say, things really are that bad.

  • robinbishop34

    “While racial and ethnic minorities are more likely to live in poverty,
    race disparities in the poverty rate have narrowed substantially since
    the 1970s

    In other words, blacks haven’t been raised up… whites have been brought down.

    • willbest

      Sadly, that has been empirically proven.

    • NM156

      Most of the narrowing can be attributed to mass immigration, which has only harmed white American workers at worst and done nothing at all for them at the least.

    • Luca

      That’s pretty much what Margaret Thatcher said. The goal of socialism is to reduce the rich, not elevate the poor

      In the end, it will make everyone equally drab and mundane, it will stifle innovation and hard work.

  • exLibtard

    NewsBusters has an blog post on this AP article: newsbusters DOT org/blogs/tom-blumer/2013/07/28/breathless-ap-exclusive-4-5-us-face-near-poverty-no-work-sometime-during

  • Romulus

    It is going to get worse, as reported here on amren and in todays phila inquirer, the new HUD program will be busing the bruthas in with your money propping them up. Once they default on these loans, just like in 08 , whole neighborhoods home values will plummet.
    Whites will really feel the pain then.

  • We need an ASIAN to tell us this?

    • Fighting_Northern_Spirit

      Not just any Asian either. Do a search for Hope Yen and you’ll see she specializes in anti-White spin articles. Given this story appears just now as Obama is trying to shift focus on to the economy shows that she takes her marching orders directly from him. The deep irony is that Whites will read it and think, “gee, I wonder if legalizing 30 million criminal invaders will help the economy?”

    • Spartacus

      An asian named Hope, no less…

      • Sick of it

        Perhaps we can get some change now.

      • Hope in one hand and poop in the other. Which one fills up first?

  • MekongDelta69

    The AP (aka NoBama’s personal media outlet).

    Therefore, this is what I read (to paraphrase, since I didn’t really read very much of it, nor did I care to, b/c I know what AP punches out on a regular basis):
    sociology professor
    affirmative action
    people of color(ed crayons)
    evil whites
    blah, blah, blah, yadda, yadda, yadda

    Was I close?

    • Sick of it

      For once they couldn’t dodge the reality of white poverty. Being in said situation and knowing plenty of others in it…it’s not exactly news to me.

  • hanfeedback

    Am I the only one that looks at this as good news? Sometimes things have to get worse before they get better, and with more working class and poor whites continuing to be passed over because there skin color isn’t right this is an opportunity to build a coalition with people who might finally be receptive to whats long been going on in this country.

    • Spartacus

      It’s only good if we take advantage of it, use this situation to wake up as many people as possible, and fight if the system does indeed collapse .

    • Sick of it

      People tend to support whatever it takes to survive. If they can be convinced that the government can save them, we may see a major turn toward even more government in exchange for the means of survival…not because it’s what people truly want. I’ve tried warning others that, as things get worse, younger people will turn toward Marxism. Not that it will help, but people, quite frankly, are easily manipulated.

  • BlarneyMiller

    “Hardship is particularly growing among whites, based on several measures. Pessimism among that racial group about their families’ economic futures has climbed to the highest point since at least 1987.”

    I was reading that President Obama had a long meeting today with Eric Holder and Al Sharpton regarding race issues. Now why would whites be pessimistic about their children’s futures?

    • Sick of it

      I’m amazed by the 1987 figure. In 1987, there were TONS of opportunities for people to ‘make it’. This economy is more like the Great Depression, but with even more government interference to prevent entrepreneurship and even less native manufacturing.

  • Spartacus

    “While poverty rates for blacks and Hispanics are nearly three times
    higher, by absolute numbers the predominant face of the poor is white.”


    How many times do you hear that dark-skins commit more crime because they’re poor ?

  • IKantunderstand

    Do I detect a note of jubilation in Ms Yen’s report? Is the fact that the descendants of the White founders of America are now in dire financial straits a cause for celebration? Was this the only way this country could prove that we have moved beyond racism, is by making Whites suffer? Seriously? Are Whites suffering, now the litmus test of progress in the world? Silly me, I thought it was economic, technological,intellectual progress that counted. If Whites are beaten down, who is left to save the world? The Chinese of course come to mind: always on the front line of saving lives in natural disasters around the world! Followed, of course, by the intrepid Indians, always willing to lend a helping hand and rupees everywhere in the world when disaster strikes! And the Africans, who could ever forget the helping hands extended to the Japanese tsunami victims? Whoa, I almost forgot the absolute herculean efforts of goodwill, always, always extended by the Saudis and other oil rich Arab nations! So, let us rejoice with Ms. Yen, about the downfall and eventual eradication of the White race! The world will be so much better! The peace, tranquility, and brotherhood of humans will increase many times over, after Whites are either gone(or race mixed!). Think how blissful life will become on Earth, after the hateful Whites are gone: No one to make others feel ugly( Forget hair straighteners, skin lighteners, nose fixing, procuring eyelids, etc.) No one to be made to feel left out: ( Don’t have to worry about trying to compete with Whites by writing books, creating art, architecture, fashion, or even, CIVILIZATION! ) A White free world, will surely be heaven on earth.

  • Tim_in_Indiana

    This recovery shows every sign of being a jobless one. In addition to rampant immigration eating up entry level jobs, the economy, probably due to increased automation, simply isn’t creating very many new ones.

    Job growth held steady for EVERY DECADE from the 1940s until the 2000s, when it actually dropped by 1%.

    In the past, automation destroyed some jobs but created others, but today, automation is increasingly encroaching not only on the physical jobs but the mental ones as well, handling tasks that were once thought to require humans, such as that of legal aides.

  • Spartacus

    “More than 19 million whites fall below the poverty line of $23,021 for a
    family of four, accounting for more than 41 percent of the nation’s


    And here’s the key to all our problems. People who have nothing don’t give a damn about “political correctness”, egalitarianism or any other bull. You have to reach out to them, just like Golden Dawn does in Greece. Give them a bowl of soup and a loaf of bread, and some ideology for dessert, every one of ours you awaken is a great victory. Mentor poor white children, take them out hunting or doing sports, and slip in some of the truth when you can. Ideally, give them some books by David Duke, Jared Taylor, William Luther Pierce, or any other author you think they’re most likely to respond to.

    This must be done in both an organized manner, as well as on a one-on-one basis by people like you who are reading this right now.

  • IstvanIN

    Pessimism among that racial group
    I don’t like being referred to as “that racial group”. We are the real Americans, you, Ms. Yen, are not and if you and the other racial groups weren’t here Americans would be fine.

  • CourtneyfromAlabama

    “Four out of 5 U.S. adults struggle with joblessness, near-poverty or
    reliance on welfare for at least parts of their lives, a sign of
    deteriorating economic security and an elusive American dream.”

    I am part of the under 35 crowd that has had to “job hop”. I didn’t realize I was in such good company. Maybe I shouldn’t say “good” company, considering that a lot of people in the above statistics are on welfare, and they don’t even try like I do.

    I was in between jobs once and this guy who was giving me advice said something like “92% of adults have jobs”. What a way to make me feel better about myself at the time.

    I did some searching myself on these stats. He forgot to include all the people on welfare. When you include all the people on welfare, it is more like only half of adults who have jobs at any current point in time. And then of that half who are working, a majority are stuck with positions they are overqualified for. Not only that, but if he got that percentage by just looking at the “unemployed” who are looking, he was even way off on that.

    It is a bad situation. Explain to me once again why it was good to let immigrants come here after 1965? What jobs are they filling that “Americans aren’t doing”? Somebody tell me please. And then you also have to factor in the fact that white women and minorities are getting preferred in jobs where they don’t belong.

    It isn’t a good situation for anybody. As a result, you have unqualified people in the top positions, and the people who should have those top positions are in bottom positions, and meanwhile the people who should be in bottom positions are on welfare. And in the mean time we bring immigrants in to “fill in the gaps”.

    • Sick of it

      We’re in the age range that is currently suffering the most from unemployment and underemployment. The people who’ve got theirs don’t care about the rest. My own brother in law won’t help me find full time work.

      • CourtneyfromAlabama

        Yes! And a lot of the people who were fortunate enough to never lose their job their entire life, either entered a good government position at the right time, started work with a family business, or went into a profession that is always needed (medicine, law enforcement, teaching…).

        I applaud those people, and they earned every inch of where they are at. But some of them turn their noses down at the rest of us, lumping those of us who have to “job hop” in with the people who aren’t even trying and living on welfare.

        Note to everyone: Unemployment is NOT the same as welfare! Please don’t make the mistake of lumping the many decent white people who have had to use unemployment at some point (something they already paid into), with people on welfare!

      • pcmustgo

        yup. Check out the Economic Collapse blog for more about this.. .under 30 and over 50’s have it worst.

    • I haven’t had full-time work in my old field in 13 years. That said, my blood pressure after 9 years of working for jerks was 175/105. If I hadn’t been arrested by the FBI, I believe I would be dead today. At age 47, I look approximately 30. Now my BP is 85/45 – too low for me to donate blood – after 7 years of working out of my garage and basement and the same time as a househusband. Enjoy relative freedom while you can, because the money isn’t worth it.

      If you include the armed forces, prison inmates and people who have stopped looking for work, the jobless rate is even higher.

      I don’t want to discourage you: far from it. Whenever someone can find a job that they would do for free, and then make a living at that, they will be happy. I was once the best laboratory chemist in the microelectronics industry in the world. We could turn experimental test capacitors around fast because I could make anything from wet chemicals within a week. That just doesn’t matter to me anymore. My bosses never swore at me or called me names the way they did with other engineers. I made up my mind to not bring a gun to meetings if they addressed me the way they told off my co-workers. They never verbally abused me because they thought I was dangerous.

      As an employment strategy, this one fails. On the other hand, the same bosses who fired my co-worker Joe and used to swear at him all the time never even thought about it with me; I’d have walked out of the meeting if they had tried that with me even once. During similar meetings, I could show in the whiteboard what I’d been trying to do, and produce chem abstract photocopies. They told my ex-father that he will never have to worry about whether my mother was cheating on him.

      I don’t ever want to go back. I routinely put in 60 hour weeks in the lab, and sometimes I slept in my office, which had windows looking into the lab, but it was the end of the world.

      You don’t need that. Nobody does. Best wishes, Courtney.

      • CourtneyfromAlabama

        Thanks, Michael! Good points! The only point I have a question about is the armed forces. How are those people considered outside the work force? I am just curious, and not disagreeing with you in any way.

        I would like to apologize to you for how I got on your case a lot, when I first started posting on here in my early 20’s. I gave you a hard time about your choice in a mate. Now it seems like you are one of my closest friends on here and we see eye to eye on most issues. Please forgive me!

    • pcmustgo

      ditto for me and my job situation(s)

  • Luca

    Keep importing third-world welfare recipients, keep exporting jobs, keep putting hyper-environmentalist agendas before common sense energy needs, keep hiring affirmative action actors over real performing employees, keep doling out taxpayers money, keep borrowing from China with your grand kids as co-signers, keep using propaganda to sell deceptive economic news and statistics, keep spending and wasting money and keep printing fiat currency.

    What could possibly go wrong?

    The US is falling deeper into the economic abyss at the speed of sound.. Have your parachutes ready.

    • Ella

      Looking at a 15 year depression and much violence due to over-populated cities, the best answer is to buy land which can yield good produce away from large urban areas.

  • Triarius

    Good. Whites, or anyone for that matter, will not demand change as long as they have something to lose. The end result is the inevitable, the sooner the better. It is only we after we lose everything we are free to do anything. Revolution is coming.

    • jane johnson

      Once our currency is so devalued that it’s not worth the wheelbarrows we’ll be hauling it around in, and a loaf of bread costs $100+, who will step in (or up) and fix the mess? And what will the “solution” look like? That is what worries me.

      • Triarius

        Look to the French revolution, imo. It will not be pretty. Ours will be unique, since there are so many other ethnicities. A revolution is not the most accurate example. The US will be a civil war with multiple sides, not dissimilar to a several front balkanization.

        • MBlanc46

          I think it’s more likely that we’ll just sink into a Latin American torpor and degradation.

          • WR_the_realist

            Yup, we’ll be the next Brazil.

        • Sick of it

          During the French revolutionary period, the whites in Haiti were murdered until none were left. Foreigners burned down properties and slaughtered people throughout France. A Corsican, also not technically French, stopped the Terror by proclaiming himself Emperor. Slaughter followed in Europe. No thanks…

  • The Final Solution

    Not exactly related but the other day I saw a commercial on Youtube for the U.S. military. Entirely in Spanish. They can’t flush this country down the toilet any faster.

    • IstvanIN

      Every TV commercial for “NJ” Senador Menedez was in spanish. He knew he didn’t need my vote.

    • NM156

      Every historian theorizing on America’s collapse as an overstretched, deeply-indebted empire with untenable imperial interests worldwide never once considers that the most likely collapse will be from an implosion from within, the fragmented, multicultural American Empire ripping itself apart because of competing ethnic and racial interests, in a nation of diminishing economic returns. The absence of any work on a possible future like this is bizarre in the wake of projections that America’s largest group-it’s founding group-European whites will be a minority before mid-century.

  • Evette Coutier

    The economic problem we face is caused by over population. There are not enough planetary resources to sustain a large population at high living standards. So the democrat solution is to pump more people into an already over burdened burdened American economy. The only possible result is a decrease in the quality of our lives. The republicans essentially are going along with this insanity. This is more than just an issue of having a white culture. A white culture where we are starving and living in abject poverty is better than the equivalent black culture, but it is nonetheless unacceptable. The solution to our situation is clear, but the will is not there yet.

    • Sick of it

      We easily would have the resources to take care of more people in the U.S. if our economy had not been exported in order to create a global economy.

      • Evette Coutier

        @ Jonny: I am saying that amnesty for illegals is conscripted poverty for all Americans regardless of race. I am saying that it is impossible to maintain the American standard of living for the entire world. Our planet cannot support it. I will also add that the white culture faces greater dangers than diversity. Great culture requires a great economy. While the government distracts us with diversity, it deals the fatal assault by destroying our economy. Diversity really is nothing more than throwing salt into the wound. It is their way of stating: you have lost, it is our world, and we are going to make you suffer for being white. But the real goal is to turn us all into government dependent slaves. If you follow the money, most of the policies of the past few decades has been to push the American middle class into the American lower class-Kings and surfs. Soon, if we don’t take action, we will be pushed into the world lower class. We all know it. Everybody hear has pointed out we are becoming a third world banana republic.
        White culture has for centuries been the struggle for excellence, for individualism, and to become something greater with each generation. That is completely opposite to the black culture which seeks power through physical violence, group think and collectivism, and a lack of concern for their children’s future. There’s is a self absorbed life and ours is a life of purpose.

      • IstvanIN

        Do we really want more people, especially people who are not our own? If California is what the future of the US looks like, then NJ is a microcosm of the present. Farms and woods being plowed under, cities in ruin, real Americans a minority in large areas, every imaginable foreign language. It is horrible.

        • Sick of it

          End welfare. End immigration. Deport the illegals. That should help.

          • Luca

            Also … deport criminals and Leftists.

  • MBlanc46

    Ship every job to Asia that can be shipped to Asia and import Latin Americans to do the jobs that can’t be shipped to Asia; it’s hardly surprising that the US economy is sinking into the sunset. I’m only surprised that more people aren’t depressed.

    • Ella

      I see older age in denial. They drift between loving USA and confused with the present climate for their children and grandchildren. Younger generations do not view the USA in the same, positive light as older generational voters sold us out through their political voting into the treasury. Ron Paul said it so well. We got the government we deserved but I never voted for this…..the 60’s destroyed the family with false promises of sexual freedoms, with social justice models and with liberation from traditional roles.

      • Sick of it

        Well said. Go back to the flappers who voted in that rat FDR…they helped wreck this land forever and they got to die in peace! The people in my family who talked about how hard the Great Depression was had access to food either through land they owned or land they worked on for others. Most Americans don’t have that today.

  • The Final Solution

    This might not be such a bad thing. It took such similar conditions in Germany to wake the people up to the Jewish problem. The Jews really learned the hard way not to mess with white people and they are still terrified to this day of us.

  • PepsPersson

    We see the same terrible trend in Europe. The countries most affected by the financial
    crisis are the southern European countries. Greece’s unemployment rate is at
    27.2 percent and Spain’s is close behind. Portugal’s unemployment rate is at
    17.7 percent and Italy’s unemployment rate is at 12.0 percent.

    These countries’ unemployment rate is well within what is normal for the third world. Portugal, Spain and Greece have even higher unemployment than most African countries. In the Scandinavian countries commutes unemployment between 8.4 percent (Sweden) and 3.0 percent (Norway). Finland and Denmark have an unemployment rate that is close to the Swedish. There is no country in Europe which has escaped high unemployment and the financial crisis.

    What is frightening is that many third world countries have lower unemployment than in
    the West. Wages, quality of life and the general standard of living is of
    course lower in the third world than in Western countries, but the quality of
    life is significantly worse than twenty years ago.

    Sweden is one of the countries that have managed to hold her head over the water line.
    The main reason is because of the conservative government has not borrowed vast
    sums of money. Instead, they have funded the welfare state and the various
    social programs by cutting down government jobs which have increased unemployment.
    The conservative government (just as the socialist one did in the Swedish crisis of 1990) by selling public enterprises for pennies to financial institutions in order to finance welfare state.

    In principle it would be possible to reduce unemployment significantly in Sweden
    if the government reduced immigration and the expenses that come with it. A
    month ago the conservative government with the support of the Green Party implemented a new reform that allows illegal immigrants to gain access to the entire Swedish welfare state. But this is not enough. The politicians have also included free
    dental care in this policy. In Sweden dental care is free until 20 years of age
    but illegal immigrants will regardless of age receive this government perk.

    The same conservative government has announced that they are now discussing of making it illegal for the police to arrest and deport illegal immigrants. This means that
    Sweden will have practically have open borders. The conservative government has
    also continued the old immigration policy that was in 1991 – which means that the
    Swedish border already is wide open. Sweden is one of the countries that
    receive the most immigrants per capita.

    All this is of course very costly. According to one of the foremost economists in Sweden
    costs Immigration to Sweden $ 3,552 per year – reading on every Swedish have a
    job. There are almost as high as the overall average income in Sweden.

    In order to finance the open border policy and generous grants for immigrants the taxes
    have been raised. In particular VAT. Today, a liter of petrol costs approx 2.25
    dollar which is equal to 8.5 dollar per gallon. They also raise taxes on energy, infrastructure and fees for public transport. Today a 30 days card that give you access to the public transport system in Stockholm cost 125 dollar. Remember that the average salary in Stockholm is 3860 dollar a month. Also remember that the prices in Stockholm when it comes to food, clothing, energy and housing are as higher than New York.

    Now consider that the official unemployment rate in Sweden is 8.4 percent but
    actually it is close to 15-20 percent so naturally the tax base is dropping rapidly. Many of them are third world immigrants but many are also Swedes. There an ever ending number of newcomers that are placed in ghettos. The state and municipalities spend millions of dollars on each year to keep them up in a respected standard. Because of the high unemployment among youth and immigrants the state that decided to put their effort of reducing it.

    Government agencies and large corporations are now hiring only immigrants. We see an increasing number of ethnic Swedes suffer discrimination in the labor market even if there is not an official statutory quota. There is an informal ethnic discrimination
    that is set to be unfavorable for Swedish men.

    In the upcoming 2014 election is very likely that the red-green socialist coalition will
    win according to the polls since a year ago. They have declared that they will fight “white
    men” and make the informal discrimination into law. In the same time they will bring more immigrants to the labor market in the expense of not only Swedes but the entire work force. What is scary is that socialist and greens have staunch support among banksters and corporations that want to lower salaries.

    The response to the red-green party has been positive from the conservative-liberal
    government. Prime Minister Fredrik Reinfeldt said in his speech in Gotland a
    month ago that if it was between letting the Sweden Democrats (equivalent to the
    French National Front) in a conservative-liberal government or let the
    red-green alliance form a minority government, he would choose the latter.

    In fact, since the election of 2010 the media, finance, bureaucracy and academia is
    nothing even attack each other. The left wing daily tabloid Aftonbladet chief political
    editor said that she is proud of the conservative government. In other countries there is some kind of show between conservatives, greens and socialists. The Swedish elite is now openly says that they are a socially, economical and political elite and the
    difference between their views is just cosmetically. They do it every day in every media outlet and every forum. This has vast effects for them.

    Almost all media houses are under financial stress. In 2008 the free daily newspaper Punkt (Dot) was discontinued. In 2011 the free daily newspaper Stockholm City was discontinued. Liberal and socialists local newspapers are discontinued or have heavy downsizes since 2007. The largest daily socialist tabloid Aftonbladet has gone from selling 450 000 papers a month in 2000 to less than 200 000 newspapers sold a month. Their profits has dropped to just 8.5 million dollar a year and they are losing ground on the internet. The largest conservative newspapers named Svenska Dagbladet (The Swedish Daily Paper) profit is just 620 000 dollar a year. In Sweden, a larger and successful grocery makes more money than this. The Norwegian media house that owns Aftonbladet and Svenska Dagbladet losing a lot of money and there have been voices raised to discontinue Svenska Dagbladet. To get more readers Svenska Dagbladet has now become even more liberal to attract people.

    They have fired many conservatives and replaced them with neoconservatives and
    liberal elitist writers. Still they have a monthly circulation of 150 000 but it dropping fast. You see the same thing in liberal media. Both Expressen and Dagens Nyheter (The Daily News) is rapidly losing readers and profits. Dagens Nyheter is a Swedish version of
    New York Times. They even buy syndicated columns from New York Times. Recently
    they fired almost 100 people from the staff. They still has a high circulation of over 250 000 but is going down quite fast. A month ago Bonnier Media House announced that they will discontinue their News Channel TV News because of lack of viewers.

    Since the 2010 election, the Sweden Democrats has increased constantly. In July, it
    reached its highest average record of over 12 percent. In the same time liberal
    parties are losing ground. Two of them may not reach over the four percent threshold
    in the 2014 election. The Sweden Democrats have begun to grow in the Swedish middle class in a way that was previously unknown. One reason for this is the soaring unemployment of academic.

    As in other Western countries gave an academic education work. Today, the average for
    a newly graduated student in most areas except health care and technology up to
    a year and many will never enter the labor market. This means that poverty is
    approaching the middle class and it is especially middle-class children affected those born in the 1980s and 1990s. We see a political and democratic revolution in Sweden as it fall deeper into financial, cultural and social collapse.

    The soft national-conservative Swedish Democrats is not enough for many Swedes. Because of the radical anti-Swedish elite we see a growing number of alternative movements on the absolute extreme-right.

    The Party of Swedes (equivalent to Golden Dawn), which had 0.01 percent in the 2010
    election is becoming popular. The party has become a larger underground
    movement that is rising quite fast. In the 1994 a couple of teenagers founded an explicit Neo-Nazi skinhead party named National Socialist Front. This party was
    rather a youth movement then a political party. In the parliament election of 2002 they gained 0.03 percent. In 2008 they decided that they wanted to create a party that actually had a potential to grow and attract other than young Neo-Nazi skinheads.

    They reached out to the entire Swedish radical nationalist movement. They also reached out to the small intellectual radical conservative movement. Many came from the National Democrats (ND). ND is a failed ethno nationalist party that consists of excluded party members from the Swedish Democrats. It was founded in 2001 and initially reached
    some success in the 2002 election. It is now more famous for its small newspaper and its deep connection to the City of Sodertalje. They also succeed to reach support from highly intellectual figures that ten years ago belonged to the Swedish conservative establishment before they left for the radical conservative movements. Apparently many of them have found a home this newly established party.

    The Party has since 2008 established an online magazine named “The Realist”
    (Realisten) that is reported to have 150 000-200,000 visitors a month. It is one of the most popular online newspapers in Sweden. They also broadcast a weekly podcast show that has thousands of listeners.

    There are a growing number of alternative right newspapers. They are not blogs anymore but entire newspapers that make the headlines in mainstream media. Among the big ones we find paleoconservative and paleolibertarian online newspaper Fria Tider (Alexa rank 95), Pro Swedish Democrat blog Avpixlat (Alexa rank 107), political nativst online newspaper Exponerat (rank 172),

    Radical conservative Motpol (rank 3385) and printed white nationalist Newspaper Nya Tider (rank 2204) and the National Democrat controlled printed newspaper National Today (Rank 2580). There is a plurality among the alternative right in a way never seen before. Today all kinds of people can find something in the Swedish media outlets produced by the alternative right. Fria Tider and Avpixlat have even become mainstream and a house hold name. Fria Tider has actually become so powerful that they can put pressure on people in establishment and get interviews with celebrities.

    The only great problem for the alternative right is the finances and the lack of writers.
    The only organization that actually has the money to back up an alternative
    Newspaper is the Swedish Democrats. They receive almost 4.5 million dollar a year from grants. After the election of 2014 and if they get 12 percent they will have almost 10 million dollar annual in state grants. Sadly, the Swedish Democrats hold a very small staff of political advisors and secretaries and do not invest in media outlets. They have invested some money in a Newspaper but it is still under construction. Sadly, they still use the same tactics as when they were a small party – save all the money on the bank and then burn it all in the election.

    I do not think the Swedish Democrats is the ultimate political party and it is only
    their chairman, financial speaker and youth chairman that is actually do well. Many problems stem from internal fighting over political power but also ideology when it comes to economics, foreign policy and nationalism.

    The party consists of three camps. The first camp consists of civic nationalists and partly soft paleoconservatives. The party chairman and the spokesman for cultural affairs are in this camp. They seek to reach the middle class and the establishment. The majority of the party is in this camp and these people are the reason why they are growing so fast.

    The second camp consists of neo-conservatives, radical Zionists and contra-jihadists. It is represented by the party secretary and a few others on the very top. This is a
    problematic camp because it is very radical. They see a “clash of civilizations”
    and make all issues about a clash between Islam and the west. In this camp you also find some hidden pro-Israel white nationalist. In the mainstream media these camp look bad and is in some sense a burden for the party.

    The third camp consists of white nationalists, radical conservatives, hard paleoconservatives and others critical of Zionism. The Youth Chairman is the leader of this camp.The Youth organization stance lies here. They have also some support among the party elite. This camp is in an open war with the rest of the party but mostly with the second camp that is much larger. Because this camp is more intellectual, soft spoken and less blunt than the neo-conservative camp the establishment has no strategies to fight them. There have been a few excluding of people from this camp. One of the more famous ones was the excluding of Patrik Ehn, a radical conservative that was partly open with his white nationalist positions.

    I have good hope for the Swedish Democrats. I think the first soft paleoconservative and civic nationalist camp have done the right thing. The neo-conservatives, radical conservatives, contra-jihadist and the white nationalist camp are to extreme and to apart the Swedish political and social culture. People do not want ethno-nationalism but they want a responsible immigration policy and less normative multiculturalism.

    The current establishment is so extreme that the faster the Swedish Democrats grow to power the more can be saved. There will be alternative movements and parties that will come after the Swedish Democrats. The Party of Swedes is just an embryo but will grow rapidly the next 10-20 years. They will never come to power but they will make the establishment afraid and that may be push to the Swedish Democrats to power.

  • Tom_in_Miami

    Not enough jobs? And we’re still importing foreigners and giving most of them the “affirmative action walk” up to the front of the job line? What can we do about this? Our elected representatives don’t seem to care.

    • MBlanc46

      It’s what the economic elite want and neither party is going to oppose them. Short of serious civil unrest, nothing will change their course. Even that might not do it; it just might give them the opportunity to completely suppress us.

  • Stiv44

    I can’t believe somebody used the word “white” in an uncritical light, As though whites actually have our own concerns and aren’t always ‘privileged’.

    They even seem to be tacitly in agreement with criticism of Obama.

  • MystiKasT

    Send the blacks back to Africa!

  • saxonsun

    Liberal Yahoo actually published a story about white poverty over the weekend–it stated that 41% of those living below the poverty line are white! Spread the word.

  • Epiminondas

    The predictable result of redistributive tax policy.

  • Sick of it

    Rhodesia was once one of the breadbaskets of Africa, prior to current management.

  • anarchyst

    We have been “SOLD OUT” by the multinationalists and “free trade” advocates. For the first 150 years of this country, we prospered WITHOUT an “income tax” and a “foreign
    banksting system” (Federal Reserve). The country was going good (and was the envy of the world) until 1913 when the income tax and Federal reserve was foisted on us by
    internationalists (you know who they are–of the “tribe”). Previous to 1913, tariffs were the way that the government was funded. Tariffs also had the desired effect of
    protecting American industries.

    Fast forward to the late 1960’s . . . “free trade” was being touted as the future way to do business and was promised as being beneficial to American workers. Ross Perot
    warned of that “giant sucking sound” of American jobs being “offshored” to foreign countries. “Free trade” is NOT “free” as exporting countries still restrict our products. Ross Perot was right. American manufacturing, once the envy of the world was decimated on the altar of “free trade”.

    Capitalism only works when there are “workers” (producers), “investors” (financial support, banks and stockholders) and “entrepeneurs” (people willing to take risks, even to
    the point of sacrificing their own capital) and “consumers”. Consumers and workers are somewhat interchangeable as one “needs a job” in order to partake in capitalist
    society as a consumer.

    Business schools teach that the “stockholder reigns supreme” and that pushing wages down to bare subsistence levels is the way capitalism works). Capitalism is like a
    three-legged stool–all three components (worker/consumer, venture capitalist, entrepeneur) are needed in order for capitalism to function properly.

    A “moral” component (often missing) is required for capitalism to succeed. What is the difference between making 6 million dollars here in the USA and making 7 million
    dollars by offshoring your production and putting your U S employees out of work? By putting your U S employees out of work, they can no longer purchase your products.

    Capitalists like to brag about “lower prices”, but what good is that for the unemployed American workers??

    Henry Ford mistrusted banksters and Wall Street(with very good reason). When Ford instituted his $5.00 per day pay scale, Wall Street and banksters howled that he would
    destroy capitalism. At that time, the average wage was approximately $1.50 per day. With the costs of mass-production plummeting, Ford REDUCED the price of his cars. The
    average person could afford to buy a car. Ford CREATED a market that had not previously existed. Ford singlehandedly CREATED the “middle class”. . .

    Internationalist capitalists (actually “crony capitalists”) are “in it” for the “short term”–to maximize corporate profits during their term in power. If any one thinks
    that capitalists will lower prices of their products made offshore, I’ve got a bridge for sale. A good example is Nike . . . shoes made by workers making 50 cents per hour
    in Viet Nam sell here in the U S A for hundreds of dollars. Corporations could give two-shits about the “human component” in capitalism.

    “Free trade” has not worked because other countries impose a “value added tax” on our products while exempting their exports from these onerous taxes. Add to that
    ridiculous “registration” and “inspection” requirements on U S export products. A good example of this is Japan, Korea, and other asian countries. Japan requires ALL

    import automobiles to be inspected individually. Japanese cars imported to the U S A receive “blanket certification” in which one model of each car is submitted for safety
    and emission inspection–after approval, subsequent cars are brought in with no difficulty.

    If I had my way, ALL trade would be on a “tit-for-tat” basis. A country that required individual inspection of our cars would have their imported cars also inspected individually. You would see the trade barriers come down almost immediately. Identical rules (and VAT fees) would apply to every country that pulled these stunts.

    TRUE capitalism, when properly run, has the potential to benefit everyone–unfortunately we are not there yet . . .

  • pcmustgo

    too funny

  • Transpower

    Rome became a welfare-state and declined. We are on the same path.

    • JohnEngelman

      Rome declined because of the growing gap between rich and poor. Poor farmers could not compete with estates worked by slaves. They lost their farms and became a proletariat that saw little reason to defend the Empire from Germanic invaders.