African-Americans and Whites Are Sharply Divided on the Zimmerman Verdict, Reveal New Polls

David Martosko, Daily Mail (London), July 22, 2013

A huge majority of African-Americans disapprove of the jury verdict in the case of George Zimmerman, the Sanford, Florida neighborhood watch volunteer who was acquitted of murder charges a week ago in the self-defense shooting of 17-year-old Trayvon Martin.

In a Washington Post-ABC poll released Monday, more than 1,000 Americans were asked whether they approved of the Zimmerman verdict. A whopping 81 per cent of blacks said no, while just nine per cent said yes.

The numbers were sharply reversed among whites, with 51 per cent favoring the jury’s decision and 27 per cent disapproving.

And shortly after Attorney General Eric Holder was assuring the NAACP at its convention last week that his Justice Department was still investigating the Zimmerman case, an 81 per cent majority of blacks told pollsters that they believe Zimmerman should face new civil rights charges in federal court. Just 13 per cent disagreed.

White respondents were opposed, but less strongly, by a 59-27 margin. Overall, ABC found that 39 per cent of Americans thought Zimmerman should be charged again. Forty-six percent disagreed.

ABC conducted its poll July 18-21. A separate poll of 1,000 Americans released Thursday and conducted July 15-16 by Rasmussen Reports found that in the days immediately following Zimmerman’s acquittal, just 21 per cent – barely half the number in ABC’s poll a few days later – thought federal civil-rights charges were warranted.

Asked if they agreed with the jury verdict in Sanford, Florida, less than half overall – 48 per cent – told the Rasmussen researchers they did. Thirty-four per cent disagreed.

In a separate Rasmussen poll conducted July 17-18, 48 per cent of Americans said they view Zimmerman unfavorably, compared to 32 per cent who had a favorable view of him.

In addition to a race-based opinion chasm, ABC’s statistics about the federal government’s potential prosecuting Zimmerman also differed broadly among various age groups.

‘In one striking division that reaches beyond race and ethnicity,’ ABC News reported, ’58 percent of 18- to 29-year-olds favor civil rights charges against Zimmerman, the only age group in which a majority holds this view. Among senior citizens, by contrast, just 25 percent agree.’

President Obama entered the fray on Friday after a week of silence and pressing questions from the White House press corps, with 17 minutes of deeply personal remarks about the death of Trayvon Martin.

‘When Trayvon Martin was first shot, I said that this could have been my son,’ Obama told reporters. ‘Another way of saying that is Trayvon Martin could have been me 35 years ago.’

‘When you think about why, in the African-American community at least, there’s a lot of pain around what happened here. I think it’s important to recognize that the African-American community is looking at this issue through a set of experiences and a history that doesn’t go away.’

That pain is clearly visible in the polling data.

ABC also found that 86 per cent of blacks surveyed don’t believe they receive equal treatment under the law; 60 percent of Hispanics share that belief.

Meanwhile, a 54-per-cent majority of whites said all groups of Americans received equal treatment under the law.

Obama’s belated entry into the post-trial news cycle is likely to resonate strongly with his political base, and it could further alienate GOP voters.

Just 17 per cent of self-identified Republicans, The Washington Post reported, think the Justice Department should file civil-rights charges over the death of Martin, a 17-year-old young man when hist life tragically ended. Among Democrats, 57 per cent say Zimmerman should face new federal charges.

Approval of the jury’s verdict was also split along party lines, with 65 per cent of Republicans and 22 per cent of Democrats in favor.

Obama weighed in Friday on the Zimmerman trial, saying that African-Americans view the result through a lens colored by past racism. There has been no poll released yet that includes data from after that highly personal 17-minute speech in the White House press briefing room.

The president is about to embark on an economics offensive in an effort to turn his numbers around, beginning with a speech Wednesday at Knox College in Illinois. That address will be a preview of key budget votes on the horizon in Congress.

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  • White Mom in WDC

    The only reason why we keep re-hashing the Trayvon Martin verdict is because the media won’t let it go. Why can’t the media focus on more important issues, such as the economy? Oh that’s right, that’s a REAL issue and they want to distract working Americans from the fact that they ate getting fleeced by the elite.

    • Sick of it

      Because if they focus on the economy, they may be forced to admit to the stark reality they have lied about for years. They may also have to explain proposed free trade agreements with both Asia and the European Union. They might also have to explain the economic cost of amnesty. They will push us into a war before doing any of the above.

      • White Mom in WDC

        We are already in a silent Civil War. Things are just starting to get ugly.

        • Sick of it

          The Civil War never ended, it just changed from a sectional conflict into a conflict between the Federal government and everyone else. Oh and put on a happy face.

  • Creepy as a cracker!

    It’s obvious that the blacks refuse to accept the rule of law & order. Instead they prefer mob rule, lynchings and necklacings.

    • Oil Can Harry

      Even more horrifying, 6 out of 10 Democrats want to frame Zimmerman a second time.

      What a putrid, evil party.

      • Ed_NY

        It is disgusting!

  • Fredrik_H

    It’s still shocking that just 51% of the white population agreed with setting a more or less squeaky clean guy (on matters of race) free. Had it been of us, we would’ve been toast. Jared is absolutely right about that.

    • bigone4u

      All the more sjhocking because St. Trayvon was so dirty and thuggish. But take solace in the mass ignorance that affects us. Those Jay Leno man on the street interviews I used to see are not just hilarious, but telling us the truth about how collectively stupid we have become.

    • ncpride

      Take heart that in this poll, only a thousand or so people participated.

  • A Freespeechzone

    It’s obvious that too many blacks would rather convict someone on innuendo & lies, rather than on facts PROVABLE in court; the stats cited in this article validate that.

    I see comments and tweets from obvious blacks who cite outrageous claims–citing that the witnesses & experts lied. I was skeptical of the claim that many blacks average an 85 IQ–but, after the response on the Zimmerman Trial, I’m inclined to believe them.

    It’s a shame that this group of low-IQ people have no idea of what a fact is and furthermore, don’t care, including Barack Obama, who should know better..but, we know he sees opportunities to placate the most stupid of his ‘people’, just like Eric Holder.

    Regardless of the attitude of the black community and Obama, the majority will ALWAYS invoke their God-given right to self defense.

    No Apologies.

    • Fredrik_H

      They do make a good case for never letting them being in charge of anything.

      • Sloppo

        I disagree. I believe they should be sent to their homeland (Africa) and there they should be allowed to be in charge of themselves.

    • sbuffalonative

      This is a FALSE survey just like the media presented a FALSE ‘narrative’.

      This is a HISPANIC vs BLACK issue. Why are they allowed to continue framing this debate this way? Why are we allowing them to do so?

      Every time this case is mentioned, we need to FIRST point out to all parties involved that Zimmerman SELF-IDENTIFIES AS HISPANIC.

      Before you continue any discussion with anyone on this case, first and foremost get them to admit this is a Hispanic/black issue. Then carry on the conversation from that there.

  • din_do_nuffins

    49% of Whites side with blacks when a violent black thug attacks an innocent non black citizen. Typical White Fail, again.

    • baldowl

      Black race elevated. White race defiled. That’s why he’s smiling.
      She’s smiling because she’s a paid actress.

    • Jefferson

      I am sure that in Europe Trayvon Martin has even more White supporters than in the U.S. European Whites on average are even less racially aware than American Whites.

      • ShermanTMcCoy

        It gets tiresome having to constantly explain to Germans that most everything they have told about St. Skittles and Jorge Carpintero (Zimmermann in Spanish) is a lie.

      • David Ashton

        In Britain they are lied to about the events on a massive scale, with the BBC leading the field. The only significant exception I have seen was Rod Liddle in “The Spectator”, one against the mob.

      • anon

        “Whites on average are even less racially aware than American Whites”

        You’re assuming too much. There’s a reason why nationalist parties are rising so fast in Europe

    • Spartacus

      Isn’t posting pictures of bestiality against Amren rules ?

      • Romulus

        Im really really teaching my limit. Nausea rolls over me!! I can’t post what I’d truly like to do.

    • Bon, From the Land of Babble

      You owe me some eye bleach!!

      Bon

    • Funruffian

      Looking at those hands clasped together looks so unnatural and misplaced. It just doesn’t go together. I remember when that hack movie director, Spike Lee, tried to pull the same stunt when he made that wretched “Jungle Fever”. It was his wet dream to see a beautiful White woman fall for a Negro. It was his fantasy to depict that on screen to reveal that White women found Negro males appealing.
      In actuality it was the opposite.

    • Romulus

      Please stop posting that sick garbage, I can’t take anymore. I might have an episode!!!!

    • anon

      No, it was only 27%, not 49%.
      You should also know that balck-white interracial couples are extremely unpopular and that whites strongly favour other whites as mates, despite the propaganda.

  • bigone4u

    These poll numbers do not look good for Zimmerman. All the more reason for him to change his identity and leave the country for good. But also a canary in the coal mine for the rest of us. The corrupt media and the truly evil POTUS can manipulate public opinion to turn a thug in a “child,” and a public spirited citizen forced to defend himself or die into a “brutal” murderer. If Obama et. al can do it to Zimm, imagine what he can do to you and me.

    • Fredrik_H

      We would be royally screwed. Jared was right about that in his editorial. One of their computer wizards would dig out a comment left on Amren or similar and that would be all she wrote.

    • Major

      Friend…they’re all children up to 60 years old. Listen to them…look at them…Infants. They’ve been marooned to the mobcrats cribs for 50 tears now.

      • Johnny Squire

        High testosterone, low IQ, ultra-violent infants.

  • pcmustgo

    Stunning.

  • Major

    See…I knew it…we should have taken to the streets and rioted after the OJ verdict…where the jury was nullified by his “peers”.

    • ShermanTMcCoy

      His wife was a coal-burner and I had little sympathy for her.

      • Sloppo

        I would have been much more sympathetic to her if she had not voluntarily chosen to live in that kind of danger.

      • I remember a WS site that had a large section entitled “OJ Simpson We Salute You!” because he had carved up a mudshark and gotten away with it.

  • Spartacus

    “The numbers were sharply reversed among whites, with 51 per cent favoring the jury’s decision and 27 per cent disapproving.”

    ———————————————————————————————————————

    The lemmings are finally coming out of hibernation. How many of those 51 percent do you think were caught in a flash mob of “yoofs” ?

    • Sick of it

      In this respect, the numbers have been turning against us. We used to believe in the rule of law (based on the Constitution) and in self defense. Now…only 51% do.

      • Spartacus

        The poll asked what they think about THIS case, not about self-defense in general. And considering most people didn’t take 20-30 minutes to check out what really happened, and took their news from CNN, MSNBC and other ziomedia outlets, the number is actually pretty high.

        • Sick of it

          I’ve seen too much of a trend toward the gun control mentality and ‘hey let’s take pictures with our cellphones and wait for the police’. Plus, follow voting trends.

  • Charles W.

    Blacks will always put racial solidarity over truth.

    This is the life of a parasite.

    • Bobbala

      Black people have gifts and talents as well as weakness. They could just provide for themselves but not in a manner that they feel they deserve. Envy and Ego are killers. They have to have what you have or dispel the illusion. That isn’t going to happen. It’s not human.

      • ShermanTMcCoy

        Neither are blacks.

        • Romulus

          Homo erectus,heidelbergensis,florensis,australopithecus??????

      • Bon, From the Land of Babble

        Blacks want what we Whites have without having to work for it.

        Blacks think they have a natural “right” to the fruits of OUR labor — apparently, so does the American government.

        Bon

        (sorry for the photo — I know it is hideous, but I need it to make a point about what our overlords think of us).

        • David Ashton

          She’s no Alicia Keys, more like Jane Fonda after an unfortunate visit to a cosmetic surgeon. But the point about the pie, I admit, is much more important.

          • Sloppo

            Jane was very pretty when she was young, but her evil deeds are much more significant than her looks. I don’t think I could ever forgive her for getting those young servicemen killed in Vietnam.

  • Puggg

    The reason that so many “young people” and “Democrats” are sour on the verdict is because so many young people and Democrats are non-white. I can’t figure out how 22% of Republicans disagree with the verdict.

    • Sick of it

      I can. I keep arguing with them elsewhere. That 22% (or more) will vote for big government, government handouts, and eternal war across the world.

  • None Ya Biz

    Every American who isn’t blinded by political correctness knows that a very large percentage of the black community is uneducated, violent, feral, and de-evolving before our very eyes.

    Even Mr. Bill Cosby acknowledged this when he stated: “Black on black crime, drug and alcohol abuse, and a stubborn proclivity towards embracing the most ignorant and juvenile, criminal and self defeating culture and mentality, has done more to to hurt black people than anything ole Whitey ever did.”

    These facts are not “racist” ….. they are “reality”:
    ► Fifty percent of all of the homicides in America are committed by young black males, who make up just four percent of the total population.
    ► Almost seventy-five percent of black babies are born out of wedlock. That means the taxpayers are stuck paying for all of the associated health care costs.
    ► Millions of young Mexican men travel thousands of miles from their homes in Mexico to get jobs in America, yet young black men can’t seem to find jobs….why?

    Honorable black men and women struggled for decades to obtain their civil rights, so why do today’s blacks ignore their civil responsibilities that are associated with those right?

    Sadly, I’ve come to the realization that most blacks don’t want equality, even though they say they do. Equality carries great responsibilities and requires that actions have consequences. I think that what blacks really want is special treatment, as a protected class, who can’t be blamed for any of their bad decisions or behavior.

    More and more whites, like myself, no longer feel any guilt or sympathy towards blacks.

    We’re tired of excuses…..

    • Romulus

      Just like their “other” supposedly victimized Co-conspirators.
      We all know who “they”are!!

  • Bobbala

    When the fantasy is so much more appealing … How can you expect them to see the reality? It’s not wrong. It’s “ebonics”. It must have been the unions that sank Detroit … and Birmingham … and Haiti …
    (LOL — even the spell check tried to make me capitalize ebonics)

  • We have a problem here, 100% of white people should think the GZ verdict was appropriate.

    The problem is the MSM has been writing this story from the beginning and most Americans do not know that Trayvon Martin was a ghetto thug. All they see is that picture of the 12 year old boy that has been repeatedly used despite the fact it looks nothing like what GZ killed, a drugged up criminal sociopath.

    • Bobbala

      This is why Marx included free government schools in the Manifesto. It works.

    • MikeofAges

      The problem is, most Americans do not even know the factual story. Never mind the labels. Whatever the reason was, Martin attacked Zimmerman after Zimmerman had broken off contact with him. That’s why Zimmerman’s actions were found to be self defense.

  • negrolocaust

    I think black people are violent and I do not want them around me.

    • Ed_NY

      I know they are violent and I do not want them anywhere near me or my family.

  • Whitetrashgang

    Well kids remember Iraq, When I saw that dog and pony show I coudnt believe anyone fell for it but most people did. In fact most people are idiots, just accept it and move on. Also Most kids in their 20s and blacks know only what they are told . they follow the crowd etc.
    And never allow a black on your jury ,ever.

    • Romulus

      Herd mentality!!

    • Sloppo

      I fell for the Iraq thing. I feel stupid about it now, but did it.

  • Bon, From the Land of Babble

    A majority of blacks (including obama and holder) know nothing about how the judicial system or the Constitution work or what double jeopardy means.

    Facts matter nothing to these people and they are seething with extreme hatred and resentment of Whites.

    If I remained ignorant and were told by my leaders, the media and the president that Zimmerman was nothing more than a violent White racist who hunted innocent 12-year black children so he could shoot them down in cold blood, I wouldn’t agree with the verdict either. But then I am not that ignorant.

    among whites, with 51 per cent favored the jury’s decision

    Looks like the same false media narrative worked on almost 1/2 of Whites too.

    Bon

  • IKantunderstand

    Well, gosh, what this tells me: this whole diversity thing will really work out well in not only our judicial system, but in every facet of American life. Wow, I can’t wait until we Whites are the minority in this country! The whole country will be so awesome! Nothing will work, nothing will be repaired, you won’t be able to count on first responders, absolutely nothing will resemble the powerhouse first world country our ancestors fought and died for… who cares? We will be diverse! The most important goal EVER in the history of the world! I don’t know about you, but i can’t wait for this wondrous dystopia we are well on our way descending to… can you say fourth world country? Because that is what the United (for now) States of America is poised to become: a fourth world country. We won’t even be equipped to be a third world country. Ah, our Founding Fathers would be so proud.

  • sshadow

    If the jury had been black Zimm would be headed for prison now. There would have been no possibility of a fair verdict. Only 9 % of blacks could see the obvious truth. We’ve got to stop encouraging welfare recipients from having babies. Reason? They turn into Travonoids and black jurors. There must be a Darwinian model somewhere to deal with this problem. Hmmm.

    • Romulus

      There already is. Only the strong survive!!

    • Whitetrashgang

      How about I Q tests , sh#t if that wouldn’t get the negroes throwing their own feces

  • Romulus

    The poll demonstrates the unity of the blacks and the capitulation of whites. Only through more media intensity focused on the disparaty of interracial crime statistics, will whites see their true “colors”.

  • libertarian1234

    “51 percent of whites–and only 9 percent of blacks–side with the jury.”

    This is a reflection of either slanted media coverage or an example of the dumbed down effect on whites within the population who have to be culled from the herd.

    The basic facts in the case make it obvious a trial should never have occurred.

    I’m o.k. with going into a sovereign area without the gullible and the mentally-challenged even if they’re within my circle of friends and family.

  • Spartacus

    Those are fewer than the media would like you to think, and they’re usually low-IQ, overweight crack-whores, so we’re really not losing much in most cases…

    • unadorned

      It used to be that way, but I’m afraid not so much any more.
      I’ve seen lovely young white teens hand-in-hand with black youths.
      And this in predominately white communities. Glorifying the negro from K-12 has done its dirty, intended deed.

      • Ed_NY

        You are exactly right. Young White girls have been programmed into buying the black worship thing. Blacks are definitely in style for these young girls.

        • Puggg

          Not just girls. White boys have also been programmed into buying the black worship thing. That’s because winning ball games is more important than anything in the world.

      • Spartacus

        Not really. There was an article on CofCC about the “quality” of white women who go with blacks, but I can’t seem to find it right now…

      • Sloppo

        I see that sometimes too and I even had a talk with a friend of my daughter’s from one of her sports teams who seems to think it’s a good idea for her to date black guys. She didn’t like what I had to say, but she knows how I and my daughter feel about it and she knows some of the reasons. I hope our discussion was beneficial for her, but I know it’s not easy to undo years of indoctrination.

  • unadorned

    ’58 percent of 18- to 29-year-olds favor civil rights charges against Zimmerman, the only age group in which a majority holds this view. Among senior citizens, by contrast, just 25 percent agree.’

    And no wonder. The brain-washing that goes on in American schools is equivalent to child abuse. At a very young age children read books like “Roll of Thunder, Hear my Cry,” “Holes,” “Wringer,” “Maniac Magee,” and the “Book of Black Heroes: Scientists, Healers, and Invertors (Volume 3),” (as if it could fill three volumes!) These books instill terrible feelings of guilt in white children, and murderous hatred of whites in black children. American children watch shows geared for their age-group that always shows a white, blonde little girl sitting next to a little black boy. In high school and college whites are told they’re racist if they refuse to date people of color. Further, they are inculcated with the belief that we are all equal, and to say something negative about anyone is a terrible sin worse than murder.
    Sadly, the only solution is to isolate your children, home school, no TV, no movies, etc.
    But, even then most of the people around you will think you’re the one abusing your children.

    • Jack Burton

      Individuals who don’t work for the government can’t violate the civil rights of someone, even Dershowitz said that.

      • I think that was changed after the killings of Matthew Shepard and James Byrd. A hate crimes prevention act was passed in 2009 and this eliminated the requirement that the victim be engaged in some variety of federally-protected activity like voting or going to school.

        • Jack Burton

          No, it’s not legally feasible, it’s nonsense. They’re just grasping for straws in an attempt to win for their side.

  • Frans

    Black I. Q. is the major problem. They’re easily led by the lies of the race whores such as Jessie Jackass and Al Dullard. They’ve been taught from birth that YT is the enemy & causes all black problems—holding blacks down. No one will face this truth. There is no way on earth to change anything without understanding that a larger percentage of blacks is just dumb. They can’t be educated beyond a 5th grade level (or lower), so they’ll never understand responsibility, morals, ethics, common decency. And they’re easily brainwashed. When they answer survey questions, they just say whatever they’ve been brainwashed to say.

  • Blacks and whites may be divided on the verdict, BUT the real difference between the two groups is that whites are divided among themselves whereas blacks are united.

    Only half of whites think Zimmerman was right while virtually all blacks think he was wrong.

    Maybe some whites feel ambivalent because Zimmerman is brown. Maybe some liberals are less willing to condemn him for that reason and some conservatives are less willing to side with him for that reason.

    Some whites could even be enjoying this as a veiled black vs brown conflict narrative. Indeed, the notion that Zimmy is ‘white’ made this a national issue, but the drama everyone saw on TV was one between black and brown. Regardless of the narrative, eyes saw something else.

    So, paradoxically, the hype about Zimmy’s whiteness made his brownness(in contention with blackness) the focus of attention.

    Had the narrative been Zimmy the brownie killed a black at the outset, it would NOT have made the national news.

    • Jack Burton

      Black racism is so evident here. Whites have a balanced view, which is not necessarily a good thing, while blacks are virtually all in agreement.

      So 49% of Whites are stupid and wrong, while nearly all blacks are. Sounds about right.

      • I suspect some of those 49% are merely tragically misinformed because they were deliberately fed disinformation by the media. This is “garbage-in, garbage-out” writ large.

        • Tom_in_Miami

          I think you nailed it.

  • WR_the_realist

    Invariably most black people take the side of any other black person who gets into a conflict with a white person (or a mixed race Hispanic who is “white” enough). That’s a given. Look at all the blacks who cheered the O.J. verdict. Or who regarded the Jena 6 as victims, when they were the perps. I’m more worried about the 50% or so of white people who think the same way. Apparently nearly half of all white people do not think Zimmerman was justified in defending himself when Martin was bashing his head into the pavement. And think of all the idiot white people who sent money to the Jena 6 thugs. Maybe a race that thinks like that deserves to die out.

  • John Smith

    Blacks want a lynching. The irony escapes them.

  • Sloppo

    I’m not sure that Trayvon didn’t like it that he was being followed. TM’s text messages strongly indicated that he liked to fight, and I think he saw the situation as an opportunity to have some fun. And it was fun for Trayvon, at least until the bullet hit him.

  • Sloppo

    Asians and/or hispanics may have been polled, but that information may not have been something the propaganda networks wanted to talk about. They focus on topics which promote the agendas of the network owners.