Poll: 29% Think Armed Rebellion Might Soon Be Necessary

Sahil Kapur, Talking Points Memo, May 1, 2013

Three in 10 registered American voters believe an armed rebellion might be necessary in the next few years, according to the results of a staggering poll released Wednesday by Fairleigh Dickinson University’s PublicMind.

The survey, aimed at measuring public attitudes toward gun issues, found that 29 percent of Americans agree with the statement, “In the next few years, an armed revolution might be necessary in order to protect our liberties.” An additional five percent were unsure.

Eighteen percent of Democrats said an armed revolt “might be necessary,” as compared to 27 percent of independents and 44 percent of Republicans. Support levels were similar among males and females but higher among less educated voters.

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The poll, conducted between April 22-28, surveyed 863 randomly selected registered voters across the country and had a margin of error of plus or minus 3.4 percentage points.

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  • The 18% of Democrats who agree are probably unchained Django types.

    • So CAL Snowman

      They all see Chris Dorner as a hero, valiantly fighting against evil whitey.

      Edit : Oh wait they forgot all about Dorner, it’s NBA playoff time.

      • If not black Django wannabes, then they’re white anarchists (neo-Marxists).

        • Nathanwartooth

          Yeah I wouldn’t place modern day anarchists on the far right, I would place them on the far left.

          I know it sounds kind of crazy but if you meet these people you find out they are really just big government loving egalitarians.

          • I’ve noticed that myself. How does one square anarchy with their big-government-solves-everything mentality? I’ve asked a few self-styled anarchists to solve that paradox for me, and they say that they wish they didn’t need to resort to big government, but they need it to crush “right wing bigots” (“who are the source of all ills”), then once we’re dead and buried, and won’t be here to cause problems, then the world will have utopia and big government will spontaneously disappear. Which is basically warmed over classical Marx.

          • White Libertarian

            There’s left wing anarchists, and conservative anarchists. I’m a “private party anarchist,” in the tradition of Rothbard, and Hermann Hoppe. No government, all law enforcement provided by insurance companies and their agents. And every square inch of property is privately owned. Immigration then becomes a non-issue. Property owners are allowed to rent to whomever they want, or use their property to create and sell whatever they want. The free market reigns supreme.

          • David Ashton

            Is there a public space of any kind where private individuals can exchange ideas or goods? The idea of a privately funded defense system in the age of nuclear, biological, overflying and cyber weaponry is sheer fantasy. A free market in labor, finance and addictive substances makes non-white immigration an issue. The concealed subtext of anarcho-capitalism is private competition not only between police agencies but penal systems and judicial verdicts; a reductio ad absurdum. It can be imagined typically by its sole putative beneficiaries, young childless adults of high intelligence and outstanding health who take their inherited Anglo culture as a given.

          • Nathanwartooth

            If it were up to me, the only defense we would have are nuclear missiles, a missile defense system and troops along our borders.

            What more do you need?

          • kerrysmith

            Well, when the biggest threat is from within….

          • And a reasonable Navy.
            We might not really need a missile defense shield, because nukes are their own best deterrent (M.A.D.)

          • Nathanwartooth

            I guess I could be behind that.

            Missile defense shields would just be to protect us from crazy nations or accidental firing of nukes.

            M.A.D. is a great strategy when dealing with sane countries though. But missile defense is so good (just look at Israel) it seems like it would be silly not to have it.

          • David Ashton

            Cyber war defense and exclusion of ethnics with subversive ideologies, alien loyalties and terrorist-sleeper potentiality.

          • 1gravity

            Oh Yes.

          • 1gravity

            Energy Self Sufficiency. We are in the Persian Gulf, Central Asia, and much of Africa because we import over 50% of our energy. We go abroad because that is where the BTU’s are.

          • Yet we want to build Keystone XL so we can ship more oil overseas. What is wrong with that picture. Oh wait, we produce more oil domestically than we ever have…

            Stand behind a Great American, T. Boone Pickens, and support domestic natural gas as the alternative to oil. The technology is already here, we just need political will…which is difficult since Big Oil owns the politicians of both major parties.

          • jambi19

            Good points. Many of my millennial peers who claim to be libertarians assume outside of white culture it would be applicable. It’s hilarious.

          • kerrysmith

            There is not the slightest possibility of such a system ever coming into being. You might as well argue for absolute monarchy under the Tooth Fairy.

          • rebelcelt

            i firmly believe that model would eventually lead to serfdom. The rich would simply overpower the middle class and poor.

          • Hilarious

          • These idiots and their master (Noam Chomsky) believe in communist/anarchist which is impossible. Communism isn’t natural so it needs to be enforced which means the need for a police state which will cross out anarchy. If they would stop smoking pot they would be able to see the flaw in their childish belief system.is just fantasy.

          • Sick of it

            It’s not easy for the average person to see past well over a decade of consistent brainwashing.

          • evilsandmich

            That was always the classic bit in regards to the French Revolution: “We believe in absolute FREEDOM, and anyone who doesn’t believe in absolute FREEDOM shall lose their head”.

          • I propose that 99% of OWS types have no idea who Chomsky is. In my opinion, they are mostly young kids who understand the bankers are raping the system. The comment on pot is absurd, by the way.

          • Dude

            You should check out the youtube channel “fringeelements.” He’s a race realist and an “anti-statist” (anarchist) as he calls himself.

          • dogbone

            The Anarchists you see in the occupy movement are communists. They did the same thing during the Bolshevik revolution. It gave the appearance that they were not for the Communists, but they still attacked the established government (Tsar). Anyone that tried to stop the communists were seen as supporting the Tsar, and the anarchists attacked them.

            I consider myself more of a MadMax anarchist.

          • What is a MadMax anarchist? A subhuman idiot in a low-budget movie? That is your self-perception? Congratulations.

          • PesachPatriot

            This is a good point…most of the keyboard pounding tough guys wishing for the complete breakdown of civilization and truly third world tribal warfare situations in america probably wouldn’t last 5 minutes in the Mad Max fantasies they envision. Its pretty easy to puff your chest out in a comfortable air conditioned house with a fridge full of food and a 42 inch plasma flatscreen….that said, Mad Max was a pretty good movie….I just don’t want real life to ever resemble that.

          • Wayne

            Exactly! Anarchy is never the desired in state, only a waypoint. Anarchy is destroying the present order to raise a new one. Sadly, most of the dunces spouting “anarchy” have no idea what they mean, only that they hate the present.

          • Northwest_Raised

            Collectivist control freaks, for sure.

            I met one of these “anarchists” over in Seattle. 30, lived with parents, got food stamps, and sold weed for a living.

          • So he is a capitalist, then.

    • Cheri Rodriguez

      My first target is anybody driving through my neighborhood blasting their car stereo.

      • Morris LeChat

        what about the cars with the “coexist” bumper stickers? I would like to see how they coexist with speeding lead projectiles

      • Chris

        LOL. I feel the same way.

    • Paleoconn

      Agreed, they dream of rebelling against oppressive Whites on behalf of the other.

    • Morris LeChat

      They are more likely union workers that are seeing their livelihood being destroyed by illegal aliens. Be sure, many white democrats are not at all happy with what is happening but they remember that it is the republicans that wanted the free trade that pulled the rug out from under them. TThere is a point where we have to start uniting white people. Don’t turn away those who are of like mind but feel a loyalty born of habit to a party. Most real conservatives have divorced their emotions from the republicans. I for one DETEST republicans. Some white democrats just haven’t “evolved” completely yet.

      • Nathanwartooth

        Myself and others have been saying this for a long time and reading that article just posted about South Africa reinforces it.

        We need to bind Whites together with a common cause, like stopping immigration and keeping the country majority White.

        When you start quibbling about gay marriage, drugs, etc. it just hurts things. It’s the equivalent of debating gay marriage while a house is burning down around you. Just work together and put the fire out, then we’ll be free to argue about whatever we want later.

        • I hate to break the news to you son, but your wet dream of keeping a white majority is already gone. And the level of immigration has only a small part in the equation.

      • Bill Clinton lobbied heavily for NAFTA.

        • Morris LeChat

          and bicycles riders….. In other words, so what? It was the republicans that pushed that and are identified with it.

  • dd121

    They didn’t poll me but I guess I make it 29.000001%. 🙂

    • The__Bobster

      Me, neither. 29.000002%.

      • MekongDelta69

        Me neither. 29.1%
        (Hey – I have an inflated view of my self worth!)
        /sarc

        • Nor me: 28.9%.

          Sorry to be the Debbie Downer here, but I’m not down with this tactic. We could end up with something far worse than what we rebelled against.

          • dd121

            QD I’ve read a lot of your posts and if we put you in charge I know there will be a big improvement.

          • pcmustgo

            We need a European-American civil rights movement… non-violent, genuinally putting issues on the table, marches, etc.

          • sbuffalonative

            Yes, let’s use the tactics of the non-violent civil rights movement. Let’s see how ‘progressive’ liberals react to that. Dogs? Hoses?

          • bigone4u

            I’ve been trying to find the time to study Ghandi. A one day national strike by white people would cause this nation to grind to a halt. That may have been one of his tactics.

          • Sick of it

            They let the muslim savages in dearborn throw pieces of concrete at men holding signs proclaiming that Jesus is Lord. There are no repercussions for the other side – See Waco, Ruby Ridge.

          • I was born in Dearborn. My family goes back to the French explorers of the late 16th century Canada and the US midwest, including Michigan. My family helped establish Fort Detroit and later Detroit in 1701. Detroit through the middle of the 20th century was variously the second most important US city in terms of commerce and was an even larger producer of steel than Pittsburgh. Detroit was a critical cog in the victory of WWII. And then it happened. The US was taken over, slowly, stealthily by commnunists intent on the destruction of the nation. Places like Dearborn, where a small middle eastern, mostly Christian immigrant community, started in the 1930s, became a focal point for massive muslim immigration from mostly the ME. Now over half of a once major suburb of Detroit has become a foreign land. Not just the people but the sights and sounds are of the middle east, not middle America. The Church where I was baptized has been decommissioned and is now a mosque where five times a day they call out in arabic for foreigners to come to make promises of allegiance to a foreign god. And of those almost 500 year presence of my European family has all been wiped out. From the All-American High School where my father graduated from in 1932, Fordson HS, which is now 95% muslim to the grand buildings, stores, and factories that my family owned or worked in, all is a rubble with dark skinned cretins crawling throughout, like cockroaches after some nuclear holocaust. God it is sickening.

          • Sick of it

            Same thing actually happened to the nation of Lebanon which used to be 100% Christian and is now majority muslim I believe. Let them in the door and they pop out an army.

          • Lebanon was never 100% Christian. Sorry to blow your argument clean out of the water.

          • Sick of it

            They were prior to the advent of Islam and possibly during the era of the crusader states. Christians were 84% of the population in 1926, contrasting with only 39% of the population in the late 2000s. Huge difference once they let the mohammedans migrate there.

          • Now you know how the natives felt after they were slaughtered by your ancestors.

          • jackryanvb

            Yes, we lost Dearborne MI, lost a once safe, beautiful White place, lost it to invading NW Muslims. The exact same thing happened to 1 million Pied Noir French in Algeria. Same thing is happening to local Whites in French industrial suburbs, working class Whites in Birmingham England.

            This terrible, anti White, genocidal catastrophe ALWAYS happens when we let down our guard and get soft on Muslim invasions.

            Most regular Whites in Michigan, Serbia, Russia, France, England or Murfreesboro TN understand the danger, understand who is with “us” who is with “them”.

            Don’t let some idiot confused Libertarian, Constitutionalist or some paranoid conspiracy theory nut case try to change the subject, try to present some race denying economics argument that mass Muslim immigration in to the West isn’t a big deal.

            Please use the powerful propaganda reality of the loss of your beloved Dearborne MI, or the reality of the 9-11-01 Muslim mass murder of our people, or the Fall of Constantinople – use these real Muslim slaughter of our people to rally our people to close ranks and create some White places that will be for us, alone.

          • kerrysmith

            The shade of Lester Maddox will be doubled up with laughter.

          • François

            I think in Obama’s America, it could become ugly, quite rapidly. Not just dogs and hoses, but police in anti-riot gear and maybe vene calling the national guard of a state where things got hot because too many Whites would protest in the streets.

          • I once thought so as well but if we look at the last half century how easily it has become for the enemy to destroy our European Republic and then think of how we have lost the most important aspect of winning such an enterprise, the media. The media really is the enemy. They have carried the water for the evil beasts in DC, propagandizing against all of Christian White America. Instead we are told to put in place the weird and perverted, the dark-skinned races, feminists, progressives, communists and globalists. Anything but the White Traditional American. Who is left to stand up and will they take a chance to lose their life’s fortune? I think not, the softening of the American has gone too far and our enemies grow in size every day.

          • Sick of it

            They make fun of everything traditional, rational, and biblical. The kids are too ignorant of the world to realize how duped they are and go along for the ride.

          • David Ashton

            Is a Million “White” Man March on Washington feasible?

          • Cape to Cairo

            Yes, but you can bet your last white privilege earned dollar that the white liberals will all be there with their cameras and note pads taking pictures, writing down names, noting license plate numbers for those who drove to the march, and then start an intimidation and smear campaign against as many as the could muster, even going as far as sending your personal info to your employer’s HR dept, so they would basically commit economic hits on your livelihood.

          • WhiteWoman

            First we have to act in some capacity of low profile, but if more of us banded together and faced down anti-white hatred with bravery, we’d take back the white majority.

          • David Ashton

            Yes, and put in a few actors for the benefit of the cameras to give salutes or wear white hoods etc.

          • 1gravity

            I too would have answered no, on the technical quibble that the process of eroding our civil liberties will take longer than a few years. I do see armed struggle in the near future as a response to the ongoing NAM aggression against whites. If the question had been, “In the next few years, an armed struggle might be necessary in order to protect you, your family or community,” I would have certainly answered yes.

          • SF Seal

            It’s not just “aggression”. Diversity is bad and that includes all asians just the same as they are already taking jobs, school seats and federal grants away from native White Americans while taking over neighborhoods all over the country and even entire towns in Northern California (ie: Daly City, Fremont, Milpitas, Cupertino).

            And if you think asians would not aggress Whites, watch what happens when they outnumber us:

            Asian mob attacks three White people in Boston:
            http://topconservativenews.com/2013/01/asian-mob-attacks-three-white-people-in-boston/

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          • Gerónimo Anónimo

            The video about the Black militants glorifying attacks on Whites has been removed from YouTube and some “half assed”reason for it’s removal was included.
            This situation is getting scarier by the minute.

          • Caspian

            YouTube is clamping down on free speech. Anything that is remotely critical of minorities, could easily get flagged. Gone are the days when you could be truly honest.

          • BaronBaal

            And the one white guy who got beat up behind the car was holding his asian girlfriend near the end of the video.

          • We watched that. My wife doesn’t think Chinese are really people.

          • kerrysmith

            If I remember right, your wife is Japanese?

          • Nathanwartooth

            The Japanese and Chinese historically hate each other.

            There is even a Southpark episode where a Chinese person and a Japanese person were going at it, trying to smear each other and show the town there is a difference between them.

          • Actually, Chinese hate Japanese and recon them as culturally inferior. They call Japan “Monkey Island”, meaning Japan imitates. Chinese also describe Japanese as “ugly dwarves”.

            Japanese think China a gross, stupid beast of a nation, without even negroes and Mexicans as an excuse.

          • Sick of it

            Their term for the Japanese means submissive dwarf, per my Japanese History professor.

          • BaronBaal

            He really does enjoy bragging about his Japanese wife for whatever reasons.

          • Morris LeChat

            and don’t forget the “Mongoh’rians”who were always attacking the wall that the Chinese guy built around Southpark.

          • Sick of it

            There are halfus who look like the prettiest white people. It’s why they get so many modeling jobs and not just in Japan.

          • Say “admit it” instead. I’m also an ex-con. This stuff is all part of what I am.

          • When have I last done that? I am delighted to be married to her; I’m a lucky man, perhaps for the only time in my life.

            Since I am 3/16 northeastern woodlands Amerind, you probably wouldn’t want me to marry a white woman. I have noplace to go other than North America, and are you so certain of victory that you would shun an ally?

            I want what you want, except that people like my family should have a place here that their abilities allow.

          • BaronBaal

            Me thinks you’re an egotistical, narcissist braggart. Don’t think the people here care to hear about your personal life and the fact that you married into an influential Japanese family with connections and money because this IS a White Nationalist website but whatever, bud. I’m married to a Chinese woman who comes from a wealthy family and we aren’t hurting as a couple either but I’ll just stop here because I know that no one here except for you really gives a damn.

          • BaronBaal

            The Japanese consider the Chinese and Koreans to be uncivilized, rude, and backwards.

          • Sick of it

            I’d say the same about the Chinese..and that they’re the greediest people you will ever meet.

          • David Ashton

            Gosh, where is old John during this little interlude about our bright and beautiful racial superiors who dislike each other? Replaying a video of “The Flower Drum Song” or what?

          • Bad_Mr_Frosty

            Please donate any weapons or food to someone you know who is willing to fight so that White children will have a future.

          • Morris LeChat

            wrong

          • gemjunior

            Well, yes if we were unclear about the motives for the rebellion. Armed insurrection in support of literal interpretation of the bill of rights might be one motive that’s straight up, and the complete removal of all politicians and new one’s put in their place. Nobody knows each other and there are no cronies. Every branch of gov’t completely changed. Complete housecleaning, new house, new senate, new president, new supreme court, a new amendment making lobbying completely illegal, and a new amendment that keeps any ethnic group other than the founders from having any more members than their ethnic percentage in the country’s population. Also, reinstatement of any Christian expressions in public as it was founded by Christians. A law stating English is the official language of our country and no special languages, advertisements, or any official teaching of any other language. New arrivals will not receive anything in their own language. Total restructuring of the immigration laws permitting the majority of immigrants to be from Europe to replenish the number in the country and the repatriation of all illegals without appeal. Of course I could go on and on.

          • WhiteWoman

            All good except for the Christian part.

          • Sick of it

            Read what the Communist International produced..what they pushed for and you’ll see that you’re working for them.

          • saxonsun

            No, most of the founders were Deists–Jefferson marked up his Bible with comments about how dumb Christianity was.

          • Sick of it

            Give me the page number, because I do not recall seeing that in my Jefferson Bible.

          • Sick of it

            Due to so much racial tribalism by other groups, we’d just plain have to remove them from the country. I like some non-white people, but they always seem to stick together against whites.

          • Sick of it

            Very true. But it’s also true that if things keep going along the same lines we’ll be massacred by either the government or the immigrants.

          • Laika, The Space Dog

            Let ’em try.

          • Sick of it

            Sadly, the helicopter fleet alone would make it doable. Throw in an air force, missiles by the millions probably, tanks, a heartless mercenary military and police forces…it’s a much worse situation than 1776.

            Plus our people didn’t have the fortitude to fight to the death in 1861..not sure we have the stuff it takes for a full on guerilla war. Too many complacent people.

          • Morris LeChat

            nope, you are WRONG! We are on a path to oblivion. We are a frog being slowly boiled , tipping over the pot might make a lot of people unhappy, but that is a good thing, they are the ones that want to see us disappear from the face of the earth, so start tipping!

      • MAJ

        29.000003%. And my in-laws make it 29.000007%.

    • Dr. X

      Yeah — make that 29% + 1. Seriously, this country is FUBAR as presently constituted and cannot be fixed through the normal political process. I say we let the Blue States have their disarmed “diversity welfare state” as long as they leave the rest of us the hell alone. If that means Civil War II, then so be it. However, I’m somewhat optimistic that it would be a good deal less bloody than the first Civil War. Aside from a few government mercenary types in the DHS, they won’t have anyone else on their side. I rather doubt that stoned Ivy League college kids, illegal aliens, welfare queens, and gays in San Francisco are going to take up arms and go out to try to kill elk hunters in Wyoming and Montana who might want to secede. More likely they’ll just say “Good riddance.” I’d say the same to them.

      • ms_anthro

        We saw what two brothers and a pipe bomb managed to do to a major American city with minimal effort. The tacticool display by the Boston PD was both shameful and heartening. These are the overweight incompetent goons we’re supposed to fear in case of martial law? Molon labe!

        • tickyul

          Great points.
          I don’t condone it…..but, regular and horrific guerilla attacks on soft targets and politicians would quickly bring drastic change to this country.

          • dd121

            It would consolidate the left and they currently hold the strings of power. They would morph “homeland security” into their own personal leftist-gestapo. Hilarity would ensue.

          • tickyul

            That is what the terrorists/insurgents/citizens would want….political turnmoil/change created by their actions.
            The tighter the noose gets because of Big Brother “securing” the homeland….the more it will tick people off.

          • Dr. X

            I agree. You can’t do attacks on soft targets, it would backfire and be counterproductive. It would have to be a much more political secession, backed by the potential for armed conflict. Best case scenario is a Velvet Revolution type of thing: let them have their country, let us have ours.

          • tickyul

            The country would HAVE to be thrown into barbaric turmoil. Why would this be necessary…..because the Libscum want to have their boots on the throat of the “non-believers”……division would only come as a last resort…..when it is obvious the country as they know it is done-for.

            As for the home grown attacks…..soft target would have to come into play when Big Brother hardens all that they reasonably can. Outliers like Timmy M or the Boston Bombers would not care what society thinks…..they would see their ideology as being much, much more important.

          • Ted

            “when it is obvious the country as they know it is done-for”, that is when they will call on the United Nations to send troops. Mostly Chinese and Russian.
            You people better get out of your fishbowl, this will be a lot worse than you think. .

          • tickyul

            Maybe the Russians would be better than the Libscum.

          • NM156

            For a price I’d do about anything
            Except pull the trigger
            For that I’d need a pretty good cause
            Then I heard of Dr. X
            The man with the cure
            Just watch the television
            Yeah, you’ll see there’s something going on

            Got no love for politicians
            Or that crazy scene in D.C.
            It’s just a power mad town
            But the time is ripe for changes
            There’s a growing feeling
            That taking a chance on a new kind of vision is due

            I used to trust the media
            To tell me the truth, tell us the truth
            But now I’ve seen the payoffs
            Everywhere I look
            Who do you trust when everyone’s a crook?

            Revolution calling
            Revolution calling
            Revolution calling you
            (There’s a) Revolution calling
            Revolution calling
            Gotta make a change
            Gotta push, gotta push it on through

            I’m tired of all this bullshit
            They keep selling me on T.V.
            About the communist plan
            And all the shady preachers
            Begging for my cash
            Swiss bank accounts while giving their
            Secretaries the slam

            They’re all in Penthouse now
            Or Playboy magazine, million dollar stories to tell
            I guess Warhol wasn’t wrong
            Fame fifteen minutes long
            Everyone’s using everybody, making the sale

            I used to think
            That only America’s way, way was right
            But now the holy dollar rules everybody’s lives
            Gotta make a million doesn’t matter who dies

            Revolution calling
            Revolution calling
            Revolution calling you
            (There’s a) Revolution calling
            Revolution calling
            Gotta make a change
            Gotta push, gotta push it on through

            I used to trust the media
            To tell me the truth, tell us the truth
            But now I’ve seen the payoffs
            Everywhere I look
            Who do you trust when everyone’s a crook?

            Revolution calling
            Revolution calling
            Revolution calling you
            (There’s a) Revolution calling
            Revolution calling
            Gotta make a change
            Gotta push, gotta push it on through

          • capnmorgan5150

            Queensryche. Nice!

          • potato78

            Truthful!
            Amen.

          • Sick of it

            Great idea until you look at political maps which also give you a map of the demographics and religious beliefs to a certain extent. They’re all over us.

          • Non Humans

            I think that they gravely underestimate the danger that your average armed American would pose to DHS and other forces that they send after us.
            .
            There are alot of questions that would need to be answered, such as what % of law enforcement and the military would see the error in attempting slaughter/detainment of the very citizens that they are sworn to protect? How long would the ones who remained loyal to Uncle Sam remain so after their resources inevitably dried up?
            .
            Ultimately, though, the last data that I remember seeing on this topic mentioned that Police & Military forces (combined) are outnumbered by armed citizens 35:1. If I was in the Obamarmy, I wouldn’t be thrilled with those odds, even given superior equipment.

          • Freey’all

            They already have and it’s mostly just an anti-white elitist gestapo. People need to look up ‘sedition’ and read the g****** Patriot Act to figure out that any time soon Big Gov might come knocking on your door…and I mean even now as they’re reading our posts!

          • tickyul

            USGOV has the Carnivore surveilance system…it analyzes ALL internet traffic.

          • Morris LeChat

            no, it would embolden the white American Male and he would take over. The soldiers would start fragging their officers all the way up the chain of command. The “left” will lose control as fast as a lightning strike. When TSHTF, what matters most is where people’s hearts are. White Americans will unify and mobilize.

          • I’m sure Bill Ayers could help with this………

          • TeutonicKnight67

            and don’t forget judges! oh, and the unelected bureaucrats who rule by fiat as well.

          • tickyul

            Unelected Bureaucrats are one big reasons, among many…that this country will never be able to make REAL and LASTING reforms.

          • Morris LeChat

            put school teachers on the list as well

          • 1gravity

            As for the judiciary, how about something like this: “No judgment, or portion thereof, obtained by any law or process evincing hostility, broadly construed, against whites, shall be binding in this [jurisdiction].”

          • ms_anthro

            My point wasn’t that we should start engaging in guerrilla warfare. I would never ever condone targeting innocent people or committing a violent act preemptively. I can’t condone anything but truly defensive force.

            The point of my post was that two amateurs paralyzed a city for a day and showcased the full ridiculousness of those fat overdressed buffoons for everyone to see. This is the face of the almighty State. These are the blackshirts we’re supposed to be afraid of if the control freaks are ever stupid enough to come for our guns.

            The defeatists want us to believe an Obama government in all its depravity and terrifying power will be conquer us with these incompetents. It’s pure fantasy.

          • kerrysmith

            Nicely put and worth pondering – thanks!

          • tickyul

            I fully understand the point you are making….this is of course just an acedemic discussion…..as in “what if”.

            I also feel that a non-linear, guerilla war would be the best hope for people who want to make the USA change in a drastic way. Force meets force….no match at all….the USGOV would crush the opposition. If need be….the military would be called into play.

            If the opostion really wanted to win, and did not use attacks such as assasination of political targets and attacks on soft targets…..they would not have many tools left in their arsenal.

          • Laika, The Space Dog

            All modern wars are guerrilla wars. How do you think the third world Afghanis defeated the Russians and are keeping the American army, with the latest tech gear, tied up with no end in sight? The only way to win against guerrillas is to “kill ’em all”.
            You can ask Lt. William Calley about that.

          • Morris LeChat

            Shut down roads so no trucks can enter urban areas and an EBT card will not be able to purchase anything. So much can be done with so little.

          • tickyul

            Anyone who attempts this would get crushed like a big by Big Brother and Janet Sterno2.

          • Morris LeChat

            hmmm, a deep trench can shut down a road. Snipers from afar can deal with those who try to drive around it or repair it. The white males in the army and the construction crews wont be doing the bidding of big bro and sterno. Let the monkeys try to actually work , it will be superb entertainment!

          • Morris LeChat

            Hmmm, a large vehicle traveling down a highway could slow down and jackhammer something into the road then speed up again and take off. That something could do damage later on.

          • Defoe

            The “drastic change” would most probably be some form of martial law. Not good.

            If you can find a copy or e-version of UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES by John Ross, read it. Ross has a web site also.

            Ross’s book came out in the 90’s, and quickly became a huge hit especially among members of the gun culture. Some very, very cool stuff in the book.

          • tickyul

            IMHO this country is headed towards disaster…..how things shake-out on the way, and what this country becomes when we get there is anyone’s guess

          • Morris LeChat

            OMG OMG OMG WE ARE ALL GOING TO DIE! OMG OMG OMG!

          • Tucker

            Soft targets?

            You mean targets that resemble, in context and texture, the sort of droppings my dog leaves in my back yard, after I’ve added a little sausage grease to her food, for flavoring?

            I would have provided a recent digital photo of an example of such droppings, but in the interest of helping to maintain the higher standards of discourse and decency of the AmRen community, I decided that a photo would be inappropriate.

          • tickyul

            I stated that I DO NOT condone attacks inside the USA. This is a discussion of what scenarios may play out in the future.

            If the discussion bothers you so much…..why do you bother reading these things????

          • Morris LeChat

            without a scratch and sniff card though, it would not be a complete experience

        • Lancasharia

          I have to say,watching from another country, all the police in Boston looked like clones of Hank from Breaking Bad. One too many doughnuts!?

        • You have to be very careful about this sort of thing. It’s exactly what the authorities want. “White supremacists.”

          They want them so badly they have even been creating their own. It will give them the excuse they need to move against you.

          Be careful.

          • ms_anthro

            You think these animals need excuses? The only reason they haven’t acted yet is they know it would be a disaster for them. Why do you think they’re so eager to strip our gun rights away? We can and will shoot back and they’re fully aware of it.

            At some point you have to stop being so fearful and start openly opposing tyranny. Posting words on the internet to hearten others like us is the least I can do. I am not afraid of exercising my God-given right to freedom of expression and speech, even if it scares some government moron into putting my name on one of their damnable lists. That’s what tyrants do–make lists. We can’t expect anything better from these lowlife thugs. They’re human garbage and deep down, they know it.

          • I agree with nearly everything you say ms_anthro. I certainly do. What I pointed out is that this is what they “want”. Be careful.

            “That’s what tyrants do–make lists.” No. That’s not only what they do. They do much more and much worse. The present government is no different.

          • ms_anthro

            I deeply appreciate your concerns, Mr. Baines. I do. But when I decided to “come out of the closet,” so to speak, about my opposition to the modern anti-White death cult and its adherents, I made my peace with whatever they might try to do to me.

            This quote gives me strength when fear threatens to overwhelm my resolve:

            “If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”

            – Samuel Adams

            We must all choose our own path. Mine has led me here and I intend to remain as true to it as God allows me to be. He will see to the rest.

          • QuinnTheEskimo9

            Brilliant man. He also said:

            Among the natural rights of the colonists are these: First a right to life, secondly to liberty, and thirdly to property; together with the right to defend them in the best manner they can.

            The Constitution shall never be construed… to prevent the people of the United States who are peaceable citizens from keeping their own arms.

            Too bad the opposite is taught in schools today, i.e., government knows best how you should live your live.

          • Mine too. I just don’t have your confidence in god.

          • Morris LeChat

            we are where we are because the republicans loved their comfort and wealth more than liberty and more than their brethren

          • ms_anthro

            Only the Republicans? Tell me you don’t believe there’s a real difference between jackasses and elephants these days.

          • Freey’all

            This is true, and is the reason why we need to band together for support. The first thing these ‘lists’ do is rob us of our livelihoods; I don’t suspect it’s just HR that our enemies will report us to. I believe there’s a list that the SPLC and their minions in the federal government try to disseminate to corporate America. I also suspect that many people would be set up in their jobs for purportedly ‘spontaneous’ accusations from diversity. Since I’m under-employed right now, I’d never even get in to begin with.

            But there is strength in numbers. We need to organize amongst ourselves, lend support and refuse to be cowed.

          • Garrett Brown

            This, they didn’t buy 1.2 billion rounds of ammunition for no reason.

          • Morris LeChat

            exactly, The Boston Massacre was the flashpoint of the American Revolution, Nothing was the same after that event. When the government openly starts attacking American’s then the days of that government are numbered. The Ruby Ridge and Waco incidents were a disaster for the US government in that trust was forever lost amongst a huge proportion of the population, and that was even with a huge effort to propagandize what happened to make the government look good. NO, the US government is now either distrusted or outright despised by most white Americans. When they start shooting again their days will be numbered.

          • Morris LeChat

            the “authorities” are a bunch of incompetents that have been promoted to positions way beyond their abilities. They piss their pants when they consider such possibilities.

          • Beloved Comrade

            They’ll move against us anyway, they’re doing it now by legislating against whites.

        • Katherine McChesney

          They’re here in my city. Many cops here are morbidly obese. Quite a difference from the cops in my former Santa Monica community…buff and tough looking.

          • Greg Thomas

            The former “buff,” cops of Santa Monica have bee replaced by fat mestizos and other diversity.

        • Nathanwartooth

          If Arabs weren’t so bad at being terrorists we might be in trouble.

      • I have a lot of doubts about that. The non-whites & anti-whites are all ready chomping at the bit to get the fight started.

        • Non Humans

          Tell’em to bring it!! We will teach them the meaning of “American Pride”, “Patriotism”, and Bleeding for your Freedom!!
          .
          I would be honored to die in an effort to restore this country’s greatness ridding it of those vermin and their treasonous enablers!!

        • Nathanwartooth

          Because in their echo chamber of life they think that 90% of people agree with everything they think. They think the only opposition will be from trailer trash in the sticks.

      • dd121

        Most people don’t know the reasons behind the first civil war. The North and South had an uneasy political balance for decades leading up to the wbts. When western states started coming in to the union that political balance was upset. The South knew that they would simply be overwhelmed politically by the north-allied west. The only option was to succeed and go their own way. A similar situation exists today with the Marxist Democrats. Conservatives are simply overwhelmed demographically and have no chance at the ballot box. We are faced with a similar choice as our ancestors were.

        • Freey’all

          No, we actually have the majority, at least as it stands now, on our side; they just don’t know it yet. We must get the message, the facts, out before it’s too late. That is our first goal, and as we wake up whites across America then we can continue to figure out how to take back our basic rights and civilization.

          • Dr. X

            No, we don’t have the majority and the last two elections proved that beyond a doubt. More importantly, we control absolutely none of the the elite institutions in society. That’s worse than not having the majority.

          • Freey’all

            I believe, firmly, that if the majority of whites truly knew what was going on outside of the somewhat insulated areas they live in, we would have them on our side. They just don’t know. I lived in Pa for awhile and would sit and talk to white people there who had no idea how extreme the situation is in ‘diversified’ states and areas, like NJ and NY, etc.

          • Dogbone

            “Freey’all – I believe, firmly, that if the majority of whites truly knew what was going on…”

            That is like saying; “If your aunt had testicles she would be your uncle,” or “If I won the lottery, I would be rich,” and maybe “If people weren’t so stupid, they would be smart.”

          • Pelayo

            I’ve spoken to at least 30 people who had never heard of the murders of Channon Christian and Christopher Newsom in Knoxville. I stopped at 30. God only knows how many more there are.

            Freey’all,
            All 30 of these people were either native Jersey people or transplants from Philadelphia.

          • J B

            You are correct, many brain dead whites would join the Communist.

          • Beloved Comrade

            To save their lives they would. They would turn on fellow whites in under one heartbeat. What they don’t know is that after their usefulness is up, they’ll be lined up for elimination like all useful idiots before them.

      • brengunn

        I say we let the Blue States have their disarmed “diversity welfare state” as long as they leave the rest of us the hell alone.

        Strange, considering the blue states subsidize the red states.

        • Mr Plankton

          So what? Most of the things they are subsidizing are unconstitutional or unwanted by a good many of us in the red states. As far as I’m concerned, the blue states can keep their money.

        • Dr. X

          I’m not so sure about that. Texas and North Dakota right now have the strongest economies in the nation. It’s true that Blue States have high per capita incomes, but ultimately, this is about culture, not money. Are you willing to be subsidized by Wall Street money and in return Mayor Bloomberg gets to tell you how to live your life?

        • Think really hard: What is a certain racial demographic that you find a lot in red states? I’ll give you a hint: They don’t look like you or me.

          Once you figure the answer to that question, then you’ll be on the path to realizing why these red states are red states.

          • PesachPatriot

            I’m pretty sure that particular demographic is the reason most red states have concealed and open carry, castle doctrine, stand your ground and other pro-2nd legislation. If florida and georgia had the same gun control laws as NY and Chicago those states would probably look more like haiti and liberia than the rest of the US.

          • Mr Plankton

            Not disagreeing with you because that is most certainly the case here in the south, however how do you explain some of their other “red” states that are overwhelmingly white? ND, AK, and MT come to mind.

          • brengunn

            I’m looking at a map of ancestry’s here and wondering how the likes of North Carolina and Mississippi are red states when most of the people there seem to be black. I thought blacks only vote democrat.

          • PesachPatriot

            The demographic maps can be kind of misleading….the black population in those two states are extremely concentrated in urban areas like charlotte, raleigh, birmingham, mobile and selma although there are some in almost every small rural town as well…..the whites in those states are scattered around the state on farms or small towns in sparsely populated rural counties.

            Even the blacks in those states tend to be more conservative on social issues like abortion and gay marriage then northern or california blacks….they all voted for obama on a national level, but some vote for republicans in state or local elections. My guess is that some older southern blacks still feel some positive feelings towards the party of lincoln. A lot don’t care about voting at all….the ones I dealt with on my ice cream route generally didn’t care about anything happening beyond their own hood. Some of them thought I was a genius because I knew the names and capitals of several foreign countries, had a basic understanding of historical events that happened before my lifetime and could speak a language other than english.

          • Morris LeChat

            blacks are “hive” creatures.

          • Laika, The Space Dog

            They are sub-human beasts.

          • Morris LeChat

            yes, sub saharan bests that smell bad and have a hive mentality.

          • It’s easy to look at those maps and think that the Deep South is supermajority black. When in reality, no state is majority black, the highest is Mississippi at 37%. But in a given jurisdiction consisting of only blacks and whites, the breakdown of percentages of people that vote will be significantly whiter than the population in general, because blacks are a younger bell curve distribution people (under 18 can’t vote, and younger adults who can vote generally don’t vote), and also, lower black IQ leads to apathy. In order to have a regular voting constituency that is half black half white, the population needs to be around 65% black and 35% white.

            Before Katrina, while Louisiana wasn’t the blackest in terms of overall population, it was the state with the highest percentage of black voters. Because New Orleans had a lot of mulattos.

          • brengunn

            Hmmm, interesting. I think that sounds right.

            QD, have you ever seen stats that suggest mulattos vote in higher numbers than regular blacks? I’m sure they probably do but I can’t imagine it’s a stat that would be tested for let alone have the results released to the public.

          • Obviously they would, because they’re part white.

          • JohnEngelman

            The more blacks there are in a state the more whites vote Republican. As a general rule the states that are most white are most Democrat, and most liberal.

            This is why the goal of a white ethnostate is unachievable and politically dysfunctional.

          • Morris LeChat

            when those whites have their IRAs and 401K’s stolen then they will be forming a new vision.

        • Scott

          Silly liberal. People pay taxes. States don’t.

        • Ted

          States don’t subsidize anyone, troll. Taxpayers do. I live in inner-city Cleveland Ohio, a deep “Blue” area. And I subsidize the porch people here. Without them, I do even better than I do now. Without me and those like me, they starve.

          • brengunn

            No, they wouldn’t starve. It’s likely that they would just get even more dysfunctional.

            BTW, I’m not a troll. The stat is genuine.

        • Nathanwartooth
          • brengunn

            Strange really. There are a lot of of blacks in the southern states but those states are all red states. I thought all blacks vote democrat?

            Also, most of the counties are supposedly of Germanic descent with not that many of English descent. I knew there were lots of German immigrants who traveled to the US, but were there more than the people that gave you your law, politics and language? That seems a bit odd.

          • Blacks do vote almost Democrat 100% of the time.

            So, ask yourself: How can those states be red?

            I’ll give you exactly 60 seconds.

            Your time is up.

            Southern whites vote Republican almost monolithically, mainly out of pure reaction to the blacks voting Democrat. For instance, 89% of whites in Mississippi and 84% of whites in Alabama voted Romney.

            Never underestimate the power of Patterson’s First Axiom.

          • Nathanwartooth

            Yeah, the Whites there see first hand what Black rule does and they don’t want any of it.

          • But Patterson’s First Axiom doesn’t hold up everywhere. Exhibit A: Chicago. As arrogant and criminal as that city’s blacks are, you’d think that Chicago would have a rich history of politically organized white racial reaction, but alas, virtually nothing.

            You can find evidence of politically organized white racial reaction in two cities close to and not way too dissimilar from Chicago, those being Milwaukee and my very own St. Louis, but not in Chicago itself.

            One thing that holds back our people in Chicago is the Abraham Lincoln/racial equality worship ever present in the state of Illinois.

          • Nathanwartooth

            You aren’t really getting it.

            The Blacks there did vote 95%+ for Obama but you only need 51% of the vote to win a state. The Whites in states where there are a lot of Blacks, like those southern states, vote heavily Republican. They see the Democrats as a non White party and wont vote for them. Just like the Blacks see Republicans as the White party so they wont vote for them.

            Also the point is that Blacks disproportionately are on welfare, food stamps, work in government jobs, etc. So the numbers are skewed because of the Blacks living there. It makes the Whites look dependent on the government when they really aren’t.

            The Germans obviously assimilated and joined the United States language and culture. Not really much else to say about that.

          • brengunn

            I knew what you you meant the first time. I was just questioning the fact those states are red when the map you linked to showed at least two as having black majorities.

          • Defoe

            There were so many Germans in America during the colonial period that making German the national language was almost accomplished.

          • brengunn

            Not true. That is often quoted as gospel when really it’s just a misinterpretation of history. Or a deliberate mistake, either way, it’s bogus.

          • Defoe

            I stand corrected; actually there was a recommendation only to publish federal statutes in German as well as English. Even that didn’t pass.

          • brengunn

            TBH, I thought that myself for years until I came across the truth by accident not long ago. It’s funny how things like this can take off and become so accepted.

          • What was “almost accomplished” was not making German the national language, but an official second language.

          • dmxinc

            There are more of Germanic descent in the US than any other group (for now).

          • brengunn

            What, more than of English descent? That does not sound right.

          • Half of all American whites are at least one-quarter German ancestry.

            As far as American folkways, the English contribution is clear and undeniable. But there has been a concerted effort ever since American entry into WWI, accelerated after WWII, to deny how important Germanic culture and sociology and folkways were to the euphemistically entitled “American Way.” An example is jury nullification as a tool to resist prosecutorial and legislative abuse of power: Imported from the Germanies, never really found in England.

          • Andy

            I don’t know if there were more, but there weren’t as many more as it looks like on the map. The areas with highest population density tend to be on the coasts.

      • Freey’all

        This is the kind of delusion and underestimation of one’s enemy that the southerners immolated themselves on.

        • dd121

          Believe me, I’m not underestimating them.

        • J B

          The south almost won, 6 million southern whites fighting 22 million northern whites.

          • Freey’all

            BUT THEY DIDN’T, which in the end result it was matters.

          • Freey’all

            ETA: I meant to type ‘is what matters…

          • Morris LeChat

            But the situation is different today. VERY different. The new oil fields are in the Dakotas, the manufacturing has moved to the Southern States. The north had the industry and the WORKING immigrants during the Civil war. Today, it has NO INDUSTRY, at most it has tech industries that can be destroyed with an EMP weapon. It has health care that is not a productive industry but instead a huge financial drain. It’s immigrants are NOT working but on welfare. The immigrants of today also make extremely inferior soldiers.

            If The central states seceded, from alabama and Texas up to Wyoming and the Dakotas then the coastal parts of the Northeast and California-Oregon-Washington, would not be able to do much at all. They would need to buy their oil and food and cars and everything else from the New Federation. The old federation certainly would not be able to wage an effective war. They would be burdened with huge numbers of welfare refugees who would all of a sudden be without welfare if they stayed in the New Federation. The illegals and blacks are all concentrated in urban areas in much of the territory of the New Federation. They would not be able to do much except control an isolated area that will slowly starve to death. The New Federation would offer them transport out of such areas as Memphis, Atlanta, Detroit, Houston etc. They would take the buses and head to their new “promised land” of welfare benefits. The liberal states that would form the left over rump of the Old Federation would be inundated and fail. The majority of violence will happen in what has been up to now white liberal enclaves.

          • Defoe

            If only we could somehow “wall off” NYC, S. Florida, San Francisco, and LA, we would be so much better off.

          • Morris LeChat

            why not just level them?

        • J B

          Bang, bang, we are on our way.

      • sbuffalonative

        If ‘progressive’ liberals actually believed anything they said, THEY would be the ones demanding cession.

        But liberals are parasites and they know it. They could never fund or make their diversity Utopia work without conservatives money to support them.

        Their noble experiment is doomed on conception.

        • BonusGift

          Exactly. Whitey kicks off a nice surplus and that surplus is required to fund the parasites in their utopia. I’ll take my chances with the surplus makers that look and act like me not the surplus takers/parasites. The reason we are even having this conversation is that even the defeatists among us know deep down the truth; and that truth must even be at least tangentially faced by those in power, yet they are incapable of admitting to it and even trying to compromise, is that on the one hand whitey must die yet whitey is the only thing holding the ‘rainbow coalition’ together by its disappearing surplus that’s been ‘offshored’, stupidly spent, and just plain been wasted. Welcome to the coming bloodshed as the national credit card is cut with only tax increases and virtually no tax cuts. The parasites (whether in ‘blue’ or ‘red’ states) will squeeze and yell and kick and kill until the whole thing folds up in one hellish smoking pile. That is our current future not one of choice, and thank our overlords for that not you or me for that choice, as the choice has been made by the elites who hate us and want our surplus yet want us dead/replaced/genocided/etc. they can’t have both but over our dead bodies and those of their parasitic pets they will try. Their actions and words seem to indicate no intention of letting off the gas pedal on the way to hell.

          • Beloved Comrade

            What you describe is already happening.

            The overlords who created and set up the collapse of the economy will blame greedy whites, George Bush or anything other than themselves. They will announce that they are perpetual victims of killer whites and trot out the Holocaust to “prove it.”

          • Morris LeChat

            something else is already happening. States are refusing to recognize the federal government. The are asserting their own sovereignty. Kansas just told Holder to go screw. The US is breaking up right now. My prediction of the central part of this country breaking away IS coming true.

  • Hal K

    That 44% figure for Republicans is surprising. I wonder what they think they will be restoring with armed rebellion. Limited government? Low taxes? The right to bear arms? Most of these people have probably not seen the light on racial issues, which means we have our work cut out for us.

    • Bill

      Are any of those things you mentioned NOT worth restoring? I don’t know why the breakdown surprises you. I really don’t. Have you thought through the fact that most patriotic Americans consider the attempted confiscation of firearms to be the trip wire for Revolution….mainly because it is obvious to most of us that the tyrants desperately want to disarm us BEFORE we’ve reached the point of rebellion. Race is a key factor in my (and others) thinking, but like abortion it is NOT a single issue with me and many others. The same mindset that inflicts blacks on us, and lets them get away with the garbage they do, is the same mindset that wants us disarmed. And the very same PEOPLE, by the way, who betray us in many ways, not just racially. Dems, liberals, libertarians and RINOs.

      • Aaron

        Libertarians? I agree with you 99% but I don’t think you understand libertarianism.

        • Nathanwartooth

          Libertarianism (to me) means basically just following the constitution.

          But egalitarian libertarians somehow think that open borders and globalism is somehow a greater thing than defending the constitution which clearly says that we need to look out for our own interests first.

          • Could you please cite your reference: “we need to look out for our own” in the U.S. constitution?

          • Ted

            It’s right there at the very top, in the Preamble. You must have read the Cliff’s Notes version:

            We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

            Check out the part about “…ourselves and our posterity,”. That means “us and our kids”, as in “we need to look out for our own”, in 18th century style. This nation was founded as and was intended to be the home of the Americans, a free people in a Constitutional republic, not some symbolic shining city on a hill, world-imperialist left-or right wingers. The Founders warned us against political parties (they AREN”T mentioned in the Constitution), and we didn’t listen, and here we are..

          • Pelayo

            I’ve never gotten an answer to this. Do these White traitorous SOBs think that they’re going to be an aristocracy who are going to rule over this monster whom they have created over the past 70 years? Are they going to pacify them by continuing to provide them with “La Mierda Gratis”? If all the productive Americans have been eliminated, who’s going to support the masses of Mau Mau?

            It seems to me that their arrogance has blinded them to the reality that they’ve been feeding the Churchillian Crocodile and it WILL devour them last.

          • QuinnTheEskimo9

            They will decamp for Israel after they have looted the United States.
            A better question is: Who will fight and pay for the wars needed to keep Israel safe from their neighbors?
            I don’t care, do you?

          • Good response – Thank you

            But I still have a few observations. The gentlemen who penned the passage were most certainly concerned with their own “…justice…tranquility….defence… welfare… Liberty…” I genuinely feel that our founding fathers were passionate in their quest for securing each of these privileges for themselves and their children or as they put it, for “…ourselves and our posterity…” But I am not convinced they intended these privileges to be bestowed upon all Americans. Indeed, many groups of Americans have been systematically denied these privileges

            For example, take a look at the combatants and root causes of the Shay’s rebellion of 1786. The problem was that the elite merchant class needed to make payments in cash to their trading partners in Europe. But cash was in short supply. The merchant class, quickly found that cash by imposing taxes on the rural farmers. The merchant class sent tax collectors and armed militias out into the country side with the intent of taking private property to raise much needed revenue. The farmers revolted.

            Plough Jogger, a poor farmer, sums up his condition as follows:

            “I have been greatly abused, have been obliged to do more than my part in the war, been loaded with class rates, town rates, province rates, Continental rates and all rates … been pulled and hauled by sheriffs, constables and collectors, and had my cattle sold for less than they were worth … The great men are going to get all we have and I think it is time for us to rise and put a stop to it, and have no more courts, nor sheriffs, nor collectors nor lawyers.”

            In response to the growing concerns of the poor farmers to protect their property they began to fight back. Samuel Adams, one of the signers of our beloved constitution, drew up a riot act and suspended habeus corpus so as to indefinitely incarcerate those suspected of fighting to protect their property. What happened to freedom and liberty?

            Obviously, the constitution was for the “great men” but not the lowly farmer who was being taxed out of existence and jailed for fighting back. It’s obvious Mr. Jogger did not feel “the Blessings of Liberty” as his property was being stolen by the wealthy elite – those for whom the constitution was intended.

            I can give several other examples, but time and space would not allow it.

            As we enter the 21st century, where the wealthiest have managed to legislate their freedom, tranquility, and blessings at the expense of the rest of us, can any one here say with a straight face the constitution is really helping anyone other than the elite?

            In other words, why are we so frustrated, not unlike Mr. Jogger, if the constitution is for us and not just them?

          • Defoe

            “The founders warned us…”

            Yes, they understood very well the “divide and conquer” strategy that has been used so very successfully to…well, divide and conquer us. You can see this strategy all around you. All of the “civil rights” issues are, in my opinion, versions of the D/C strategy. In that regard, note who founded the naacp, all for the purpose of d/c.

          • In my house, there not any warning signs above the electrical outlets that read, “Do not insert knives and forks into these outlets while holding on to them.” There are some things that should be realized as implicitly true or just plain common sense. Did the framers of the Constitution and other founding documents of the era literally need to say that they were what was then the functional equivalent of white nationalists? No, because they didn’t need to, because it was implicitly understood.

          • Nathanwartooth

            We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defense promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

            The Constitution is just a list of rules (which are continuously broken) but this is why they exist.

          • Laika, The Space Dog

            The USA is for White people, Silly !
            It says so right in the Constitution ‘for ourselves and OUR posterity’, remember?
            The USA is not for Everybody, why do you think you have the right to take away White children’s countries and give them to 3rd Worlders?

        • NeuBismarckian

          I can’t stand Libertarian ideology, to be honest. Most of you on mainstream sites support open borders, knowing full well that the Left would never agree to abolishing the welfare state (a quick route to bankruptcy and fiscal ruin because all of Bangladesh would show up on our front porch looking for handouts). Libertarians are also “universalists” in the same sense as the neoconservatives and globalists that believe America should be a reflection of the world and not a European nation, therefore making it a fundamentally anti-white ideology.

          At this moment in time, whites need a strong, nationalist-minded state that guards its borders zealously and is able to use force to remove the non-whites. Eugenics and subsidies to white parents to make babies (like Russia does) would also be necessary. Once a white future has been secured, government can be reduced.

          • redfeathers

            I know what you mean about libertarians. Last week O’Reilly did a segment on violence (I think in Chicago) and he was trying to convince libertarian John Stossel that it was race-based. I don’t know what he meant by race-based though. Our version of it or the mainstream conservative version…poverty, “broken families”, etc. Anyway, Stossel disagreed. He believes an end to the drug war would stop the violence. O’Reilly looked perplexed. Is he a secret racialist?

          • Back in the days when the Hitlery Channel actually did shows about history, and in the occasional breaks when their history shows weren’t about Hitler, they had a show entitled, “Illegal Drugs: How They Became Illegal.” The main reason cocaine became illicit was because of Bellcurvius and all the violent things they did hyped up on cocaine.

            If drugs are legal, blacks are violent. If drugs are illegal, blacks are violent in a different way. If cocaine was never invented, blacks would still be violent. The moral of this story? Blacks are violent.

          • Cid Campeador

            O’ Reilly seems to be ” coming out” little by little as a racialist. He’s treading carefully so as not to stir the pot too vigorously since that would cause a total uproar and FNC wouldn’t have the huevos to support him and would throw him under the bus. Perhaps he would find a home with a TV network that would have a mission dedicated to the interests of White people. Blacks have BET and Latinos have Telemundo and Univisión. We need one as well and have a perfect right to one.

          • Defoe

            That will never happen as long as the media are owned by the current clique.

          • Morris LeChat

            the media are just people, people can die

          • NeuBismarckian

            I honestly believe that O’Reilly is, to a degree, a racialist. Granted, he’s not going to be calling for a white racial state anytime soon, but like Ann Coulter, I suspect he reads Vdare or maybe even Taki Magazine. My favorite comment of his, which of course drew condemnation from the anti-white Chris Matthews, was on election night when he said, “This isn’t traditional America anymore….the white Establishment is now the minority.” Succinct and true analysis.

          • lanceman

            Back in the day when we actually “followed the Constitution”, there were no drug laws. And yes, there were drugs – codeine, morphine, cocaine etc. George Washington even grew hemp but didn’t smoke pot as far as I know. He did distill his own whiskey and brewed his own beer.

            It seems that the drug laws came along during the time we stopped “following the constitution.”

          • Gunrunner1

            Some of Us are working for exactly that.

          • NeuBismarckian

            I see you have the flag of the Northwest Imperative as your avatar. I totally support the idea, brother. Whether it comes about peacefully or through economic collapse remains to be seen, but the Northwest is my destination to escape Occupied Mexifornia when SHTF. Personally, I vote on expanding the territory that you guys want to include the entire belt along the Canadian border, to the Northeast, since that’s the whitest area of the country, but that’s just my opinion.

      • Smitty

        Where i live we have had 4 home invasions in upper well to do White neighborhoods just in one week committed by armed black perps.One home invasion took place in the middle of the day where the man of the house was shot in the leg and his wife severely beaten.Both were very liberal and donated generously to black organizations.Another home invasion took place when the man and wife were returning from vacation where upon they saw their dog had been shot and then were beaten by the black home invaders…blacks are leaving their neighborhoods to commit armed home invasions in mostly White neighborhoods…i find it hard to believe that most White gun owners will willingly give up their guns.

        • Smitty

          The area in which the city these home invaders come from has been ranked as the 14th worse crime ridden area in the Nation.

          • QuinnTheEskimo9

            What you describe could be any number of American cities.
            Cars and public transportation have made targeting Whites far easier these days.

        • Non Humans

          They try that “Home Invasion” crap with me, after the cops leave, I’ll have their fambly members scrubbing the blood and such off of my floors and walls!!

        • Gunrunner1

          This would not be happening if Whites had a Country of their Own.

          • Smitty

            It wasnt happening in the 50’s and early sixties here in America either,that is until civil rights legislation and 1965 immigration bill passed…i remember quite fondly of those days when we Whites were 90% of the population…we never had cause to lock our doors to our homes at day or night or locking ones door to their vehicles as they drove them to whatever destination that may be…no,all this wonderful diversity is the cause why we now lock the doors to our homes and our vehilcles and why we have no choice but to own guns to safeguard our property and family…as my short story above describes.

      • 1gravity

        Those who betray us include, some unwittingly, almost the entire popular culture. Watch how the clergy will overwhelmingly react to the prospect of imminent revolt, preaching the need for love and understanding, calling on all of us to be peacemakers. “All we are saying, is give peace a chance.”

        • Non Humans

          I consider each of my 14 rounds per clip “A Chance at Peace”. Usually, I only need one “Chance” to make “Peace”.
          .
          Furthermore, in this type of situation, if you’re not with us…

        • Glickstein44

          I would tell the clergy that spouts such foolishness by reminding them that Christ himself stated in the Good Book that, “I come not to bring Peace to the world but Division.” Its evil against good and those clergy that further or support the triumph of evil through their words or actions will be spending alot of time with Lucifer begging for love and understanding.

      • Hal K

        Lawrence Auster was skeptical about these conservative “revolutionaries.” I think his insights were valuable about 90% of the time. Are these people really ready to start fighting with the established authorities? I don’t think so. Ted Nugent said he would do something drastic would happen if Obama was re-elected, but that remains to be seen.

        • Ted Nugent HAS done something drastic in the aftermath of Obama winning reelection. He hasn’t popped off in public. That’s drastic, for Ted Nugent.

          As you can tell, I’m not a huge fan of Nugent politically as it would seem that I should be — I have a soft spot for animals.

          • Morris LeChat

            tgo bad for you, you choose the wrong animals

    • connorhus

      All of the issues you mentioned are really racially based anyway. If it gets the deniers off the couch so be it. They can champion any single cause and still thump their chest and say they are not racist but defending those causes places them immediately at odds against the vast majority of Blacks and Browns, along with all the Feminist enablers who are using those minorities for their own ends.

      Defending the issues you mention will eliminate the racial problem all together anyway.

      • Hal K

        “Defending the issues you mention will eliminate the racial problem all together anyway.”

        Successfully defending them, maybe, but the question is whether it is possible to successfully defend them without explicit white solidarity, and I don’t think it is. Explicit white solidarity is the lynch pin. If these “revolutionaries” are not right on racial issues then they will fold “like cheap cameras” when it counts.

    • “Most of these people have probably not seen the light on racial issues, which means we have our work cut out for us.”

      Most of these people have probably not seen the light on racial issues, which means we have our work cut out for us.Yes there is a lot of work to do. SO START BUYING OUR BOOKS AND GET THEM INTO THE HANDS OF THESE PEOPLE, especially the young. I keep hearing people brag about all of the GREAT deeds that they will do when the big war comes. I can tell you one thing for a fact, those that are making excuses so they don’t have to spend the money to buy a few books now, will have even more excuses to avoid a fight in the future.

      • Ingsoc

        Sometimes we lose sight of the forest for the trees.
        We should be focused on the genocide of the white race and nothing else.

        • This genocide IS their number one goal, it always has been. So we must use every method to help our people see it before it is too late.

          • Ingsoc

            Pity so few see it, isn’t it. We must make sure the genocidists are identified and eliminated. I can think of no greater evil than genociding another race, but this is what is happening to us.

    • K

      There’s a reason why the DHS is buying up millions on hollow point and sniper rounds and training with targets depicting white civilians, including children, seniors, and pregnant women. I’m ordinarily not one for conspiracy theories, but this is one of the most worrisome developments Obongo’s come out with since he lied and stole his way into office. This should be much bigger news than it is.

      • And the reason seems to be that Obama is ordering DHS and all other sorts of Federal agencies to make weird mass ammo buys, and the reason for that is that he’s driving up demand artificially to drive up price to drive us out of the market. Because…he can’t wait…Congress refuses to make him a dictator…so the petulant little baby is going to barf all over his peas.

        • Freey’all

          Is the part about the targets true?

          • anarchyst

            Yes, it is . . .

          • Mr Plankton
          • Gerónimo Anónimo

            WTF is going on here? We’ve got to do something other than bemoan our possible fate. There IS no place to go to get away from it.
            Our neighbors down the block have moved out and they’re having a home built in San Miguel de Allende, Mexico! That sounds to me like going from the frying pan to the fire.

  • The__Bobster

    Well, voting doesn’t work when the candidates are handpicked and owned by the elites. Armed rebellion seems to be the only course left.

    • joegoofinoff

      As Tom Jefferson said, “the tree of liberty is watered with the blood of tyrants and patriots.”

      • Aaron

        Close enough.

      • Smitty

        Yep,and it was Patrick Henry who said,”Give me Liberty or Give me Death.”

        • Bon, From the Land of Babble

          I like this better:

          There are only three forms of government: tyranny, anarchy or liberty.

          Liberty, not freedom: There is a difference. Liberty means “freedom from government.”

          Anyone here think it’s not worth fighting for?

          Bon

          • JohnEngelman

            Those whose paychecks are signed by the government, and who send their children to state universities owe what they have to the government. They should stop pretending that they are junior league John Galt’s.

          • QuinnTheEskimo9

            Yep. We should all listen to you and hand over our life savings, and our property and race-replace ourselves with Asians.

            You first, John, since Economics 101 obviously isn’t your strong suit.

          • Bon, From the Land of Babble

            Not like I — unlike MANY others — have get up every morning at 5:30 and work for that paycheck, is it John? Somebody’s got to support all the non-workers in this state and nation.

            Not like I haven’t supported — through years California’s satanic taxation — the UCs my children attend.

            Tell me, John, do you have a job? Do you pay state, local or federal income taxes? How do you support yourself? Or does the government support you without you not having to do anything in return?

            Bon

          • JohnEngelman

            I pay taxes. I receive nothing from the government.

            You would not benefit from a libertarian economy.

          • Bon, From the Land of Babble

            “I pay taxes.”

            That is the lame same argument illegal aliens use to justify their presence in the United States.

            I asked specifically if you paid federal income taxes or state taxes. You do file a 1040 with the government every April, right John? How about property taxes? You do pay “your fair share” of property taxes, don’t you?

            If you don’t, then it looks like I am subsidizing you with MY federal income taxes.

            Benefit from a libertarian economy?

            No need to be insulting, John.

            I would thrive in a libertarian economy.

            In such a free market system, w/o government interference, I would open my own school, including a Euro-White-centric school that honors White heritage, culture, language and history — the same type of ethno-centric schools I see all over Los Angeles that serve specific ethnic populations such as Chinese, Armenian, Korean, and Syrian, just to name a few. Everything except White.

            Libertarian economy? Bring it on. It would beat the failed government-directed economy we have now.

            Oh, that’s right!

            You believe the Obama’s administration’s lies that the economy is improving, the jobless rate is going down, inflation is low, businesses are being created, the US is fiscally sound even after printing up trillions of worthless dollars, Obamacare is going to create jobs, millions of people on food stamps and unemployment are growing the economy.

            You believe the government and mayors like Bloomberg know best and should direct every aspect of our lives because WE the people are too stupid. Maybe you would be more comfortable in Cuba or North Korea where speech is strictly controlled and not minding the government means a bullet in the back of the head — but they have free health care and that make them better than us, right? Wait until obamacare kicks in and see what that “free” healthcare costs — as in rationing. If you’re over 50, you’ll be lucky if a doctor even looks at you.

            Laffer’s Curve proves socialism isn’t funny.

            You can go ahead and have the final response. I won’t read, let alone respond to anything you put up because I already know it’ll be more ad hominem apologies for your gurus and heroes Obama and Keynes and justification for why the US should embrace socialism.

            You’re wrong, I know it, you know it and everyone here knows it.

          • Ingsoc

            Why aren’t you on some Asian porno site?

          • Nathanwartooth

            So Blacks?

          • Defoe

            They owe NOTHING to the government. They have paid their taxes. Where do you get these hare-brained ideas?

          • JohnEngelman

            Because of the failed presidency of George W. Bush many on the right no longer want to call themselves “conservatives.” They prefer the label “libertarian” instead.

            Libertarian requires substantial reductions in government spending and employment. The only people who would really benefit from a libertarian economy are those who have reason to be confident in their ability to earn a good income in the private sector, and to thrive with no government subsidized services at all.

          • Morris LeChat

            your whole life has been a failure, you are in your 50s and trying to get a phd and living in a ghetto. Why should anyone listen to you about anything. You are a person of perhaps 105 to 115 IQ who thinks education has made him a 140 to 180 IQ .No, it hasn’t john, you just sit here and regurgitate textbook statistics and expect glory for doing what a retard can do.

          • JohnEngelman

            With a better education you would not need to direct personal insults. You would have comments of substance to contribute. With a better character you would not want to direct personal insults.

          • PesachPatriot

            I think you and MorrisLeChat are both pretty good guys and i read and enjoy both of your posts….it saddens me to see gentlemen with more life experience than myself engage in this kind of petty backbiting and schoolyard name calling….I’m sure that your life circumstances are upsetting enough without being taunted about it and morris is a pretty good person who doesn’t need to be talked down to and receive accusations about the quality of his character.

          • JohnEngelman

            PesachPatriot,

            Thank you for your comment. I enjoy discussing controversial topics and prefer that personal comments to be kept out of the discussion. I try to ignore insults, but occasionally I respond in ways I regret later.

            Unlike MorrisLeChat perhaps I have been nearly murdered by black criminals. I was drawn to this website by reading Jared Taylor’s “The Color of Crime.” I have often quoted that essay on this website, and recommend that everyone read it.

            http://www.colorofcrime.com/

          • Morris LeChat

            I consider it a “personal comment” when someone says that the survival of my race and people is not important, that only IQ is. I consider it a personal insult when my people are considered obsolete because they scored one or two points below Asians on IQ tests( a meaningless difference). I consider you nothing more than a traitor that practices the old “spoonful of sugar’ routine, you give a couple of posts about black crime and then you follow it up with how White Europeans are inferior and should accept demographic oblivion through miscegenation. You are the most “personal” commenter on here but you do not have the nuts to do it on an individual level, you degrade a whole group of people then run and cry and play the helpless innocent victim when others retort. Your goals and aims and dreams are the exact OPPOSITE of those that the people who come here have, the only thing you share with them is an dislike of blacks. We do have that in common though and we have both had our lives threatened by blacks.

          • Beloved Comrade

            The “crime and I.Q stats” arguments John Engelman uses play right into the hands of the anti-whites who are desperate to avert attention away from their white genocide guilt and their anti-whiteness. It is utterly ridiculous for him to deny that he’s anti-white when he supports policies that forcefully create a world without white people.

            If we ask him of others of his ilk inconvenient questions, questions which challenge their one-sided narratives, they call for a moderator to censor us and forcefully end the discussion.

          • Morris LeChat

            with a better brain, you would not need to bore people reposting things others have written

          • Laika, The Space Dog

            That is a childish response. It is a sure sign of a nut, who has lost an argument.

          • Defoe

            The apparent increase in those who call themselves Libertarian, in my opinion, is attributable to the influence of Ron Paul and others, not to the “failed presidency of George W. Bush”.

            Where did you find that hare-brained idea?

          • JohnEngelman

            This is what Ron Paul has to say about illegal immigrants:
            Sending 12M illegals home won’t & shouldn’t happenEven with a healthy economy and stricter border controls, the issue of what to do with twelve-million-plus illegals already here would persist. One side says use the U.S. Army, round them up, and ship them home. The other side says give them amnesty, make them full-fledged citizens, and reward the lawbreakers, thus insulting and unfairly penalizing those who have patiently waited and obeyed our immigration laws. The first choice–sending twelve to fifteen million illegals home–isn’t going to happen and should not happen. Neither the determination or the ability to accomplish it exists. Besides, if each case is looked at separately, we would find ourselves splitting up families and deporting some who have lived here for decades, if not their entire life, and who never lived for any length of time in Mexico.

            Source: Liberty Defined, by Rep. Ron Paul, p.153 , Apr 19, 2011

            http://www.issues2000.org/tx/Ron_Paul_Immigration.htm

          • Defoe

            Your above post does NOT support your assertion that the “failed presidency of George W. Bush” is responsible for the increase of Libertarianism”. Once again you try to slime around an unsubstantiated assertion.

            Give it up, dude. (see the definition of dude :))

          • Laika, The Space Dog

            I have not seen ONE post where you actually debate the topic. NOT ONE.

            You have to stop with this childish behaviour, John Engleman.

          • JohnEngelman

            I calmly post my facts. Others throw insults, like you are doing right now.

          • Laika, The Space Dog

            You post OPINION which you pass off as fact and ignore facts that are presented to you. You deflect a lot too instead of debating.

            The sad thing is you think you are winning.

          • JohnEngelman

            Give an example of when I have done that. I nearly always document my factual assertions. I often document them from articles I have found on this website.

          • JohnEngelman

            When has that ever happened? Post an example of it. I nearly always document my factual assertions, often from material I have found on this website.

          • Morris LeChat

            yes, this is the psychological bush that you run to hide behind after you throw your rocks.

          • Morris LeChat

            hmmm. Dogs are a man’s best friend, thank you for the support.

          • Morris LeChat

            Ron Paul is not a fact, he is a sawed off nut

          • JohnEngelman

            That is one thing we agree on.

          • Smitty

            I was thinking about Nathan Hale also who was hung by the British for being a spy at the age of 21 and is purported to have stated before he was hung,”I regret i have but one life to give for my country.”

            A ballad was made in his honor to recreate the essence of his last dying words…

            From “To the Memory of Capt. Nathan Hale” by Eneas Munson, Sr. written “soon after” Hale’s death:[20]

            Hate of oppression’s arbitrary plan, The love of
            freedom, and the rights of man; A strong desire to save from slavery’s
            chain The future millions of the western main, And hand down safe, from
            men’s invention cleared, The sacred truths which all the just revered;
            For ends like these, I wish to draw my breath,’ He bravely cried, ‘or
            dare encounter death.’ And when a cruel wretch pronounced his doom,
            Replied, ‘Tis well, —for all is peace to come; The sacred cause for
            which I drew my sword Shall yet prevail, and peace shall be restored.
            I’ve served with zeal the land that gave me birth, Fulfilled my course,
            and done my work on earth; Have ever aimed to tread that shining road
            That leads a mortal to the blessed God. I die resigned, and quit life’s
            empty stage, For brighter worlds my every wish engage; And while my body
            slumbers in the dust, My soul shall join the assemblies of the just.

            If you substitute country for race i think you can really appreciate the wisdom of this writers words for it is we Whites who are being oppressed today.

          • Smitty

            Bill Richmond,a 13 year old former slave and Loyalist who later became famous as an African American boxer in Europe,was reportedly one of the hangmen,”his responsibility being that of fastening the rope to a strong tree branch and securing the knot and noose.”

          • Since the middle ages, there has been only one form of government. The function of all governments has been to partner with the owners of production and to ensure that the channels of distribution are kept open and available. If any group of non-owner makes any attempt, irregardless of what the prevailing government is termed (e.g. monarchy, democracy, socialism, etc), that movement is immediately quelled. . All governments, irregardless of what they are called, are the administrative arm of the owners. Talk of liberty and freedom is idle chatter.

          • QuinnTheEskimo9

            “Since the middle ages there has been only one form of government.”

            Not true. Why don’t you relocate to North Korea and write to us from there since there’s only “one form of government.”

            “Irregardless,” I’ll stay in the US and go down fighting if I have to. It there were only “one form of government” why do Cubans risk their lives to get to the United States? Why don’t they stay and enjoy Castro’s prison?

          • Whether in North Korea, Cuba, Or United States, the interests of the owners of capital are the government’s primary concern – non owners are inconsequential in any government system.

            This is why so many posters here feel betrayed and let down by their government. We were lead to believe that the government was for us. But as Woodrow Wilson so aptly put it “The masters of the government of the United States are the combined capitalists and manufacturers of the United States”

            The government is under the master’s control and what benefits them is put into law. Your individual freedoms are of no concern. This is why our government is unable to control it’s borders (reverse imperialism) This is why corporations are able to evade taxes and you will be incarcerated if you don’t pay; this is why we are now compelled to purchase health insurance; this is why our central bank continues to devalue our currency. This is liberty?

            Everyone here has a theory on why they are being dispossessed.
            Most blame the Jews. Some blame the Blacks. But if we look throughout history, the agenda which leaves the common man left powerless and property-less has consistently been set by capital, and enforced by government.

            As for people wanting to leave Cuba? If the measure of liberty and freedom is determined by how many people want to leave, you might be surprised to find out Americans are leaving America at an unprecedented rate. Read the posts here carefully and you’ll find people who are frustrated with their country’s leadership and are looking for other places to go. Even to the extent of armed insurrection, people are growing weary. Yet corporate profits are reaching all time highs? They are completely content. This is democracy?

            Our political system is designed, legislated, and maintained to benefit a few – yet we call this justice, liberty and freedom? Which gives us….

            “Advocates of capitalism are very apt to appeal to the sacred principles of liberty, which are embodied in one maxim: The fortunate must not be restrained in the exercise of tyranny over the unfortunate.” – Bertrand Russell

          • Cherry Bomb

            Read The Culture of Critique by Professor Kevin MacDonald and then get back to us.

          • gemjunior

            Exactly. Once they did the long march through the American Institutions, our troubles began. With The Creature from Jekyll Island in 1913, then our involvement in WWI. I think The C of C isn’t just a great start – it’s all one needs to know to really put things in perspective.

          • Gunrunner1

            I am afraid I have to agree. One of the reasons the North West American Republics Constitution bans international capitalism, fosters Private Enterprise and focuses the powers of the Government ONLY on international Law and protection of the Homeland is that Capitalists want Cheap labor, Communists want votes. By gutting the Constitution of power over people (for example, the only “State” official in the Homeland is a sheriff elected by the local County. Otherwise people work out their differences between each other. There are criminal courts, but they only try fact and their are no lawyers.
            Capitalism has in its roots the very same desire to control populations that Communism has in it. One philosophy wants the votes so to counter that you remove the power of the Federal Government to deal with the people at all, point its aggressive tendencies outward. To remove the Capitalist/Cheap labor yoke you foster Labor Battalions out of Kids coming from High School and then give them a stint in the Army. Thus every citizen serves the common good fixing roads or picking tomatoes for two years and then (like Switzerland) goes into the Army for two years, NO EXCEPTIONS. Like Switzerland, every boy would be issued a rifle. Raw materials/produced goods are taxed only at the border and there are no “international Corporations” that can export factories.

            Raising a citizen is like raising children. Love them, Teach them truth, make them strong and they will always follow a good path with a clean heart. Lie to them, spit on them, manipulate them and take away their freedoms and they will learn to hate.

          • JohnEngelman

            Lila Dennis,

            I just clicked on your avatar, and read each of your 22 comments. I am impressed. Please post more comments on American Renaissance.

          • Thanks JohnEngleman.

            I believe as you do that statements of fact need to be referenced. If my facts are wrong, then I stand corrected. Facts lead to opinions. Although opinions may vary, if we agree on facts then we can have a dialogue.

            Some here, not all, forget about facts and jump straight to opinion. This leads to ignorance and superstition. Opinions based on myth, hearsay or customs, like religion, are not easily shaken but fiercely defended. The defense, as you have noticed, invariably involves ad hominem attacks. This is regrettable, but completely forgivable. Waking from a slumber is an uncomfortable process.

            Stick to the facts, form an opinion and keep posting.

          • Laika, The Space Dog

            Nonsense. Americans are not fleeing America at the same rate Cubans are escaping from Castro. Why do billions and billions of destitute poor desire to come to the US or Europe or Australia?
            Our system designed to protect individual liberty has been hijacked.
            I strongly suggest you take up the advice and read Culture of Critique cover to cover and then get back to us.

          • trollzforlulz

            Your feminism is showing.

            Eat a d1(k,Marxist.

            Capital may be everything for a woman,and you may view the world in those terms,but those you refer to don’t have the same trip. Capitalism is not and never was the problem. Unlike Marxism, capitalism worked pretty damn good in the U.S. for 200 years,it made our nation so pampered and prosperous that the lurking specter of tyranny, which existed from the beginning, seemed as though it had been permanently vanquished. And that’s where you anti-capitalist Marxists stepped in. To stir the pot. To convince people who had made a contract with employers of their own free will and received monetary compensation for it that they were being “oppressed”.

            Neither they,nor you, have ever even experienced anything that could hyperbolically be called “oppression”, unless you refer to the campaign to demonize white people and “exclude them from the democratic process”,per housing regulator Watts,that is ongoing.

            Parasites-leftisit women,blacks on welfare,etc.- hate capitalism.

            I wonder why?

            You’ve had the absolute best of it your entire lives! A parasite can afford to demonize capitalism,but you still want to keep your little exclusive benefits that it confers on you,don’t you?

            Not only are you trying to cut our throats,but you’re cutting your own group’s as well. Women hate men who don’t have any money and won’t marry or breed with them. Why do you think women in the former Soviet Republics want an American man so bad and talk so much crap on their own men? Why do you think they need a government program that gives away MONEY (evil,evil capitalist money) to women to get them to breed with them.

            Why do you think OWS is anti-capitalist?

            The fastest way to drive whites out of existence is to end capitalism and institute socialism/marxism. This isn’t about you or your desire for a nanny state, this is about the survival of this country.

            You are part of the problem.

          • Beloved Comrade

            Excellent response. We’ll see how long your post stays up.

            Economics follows law, not the other way around. Countries that respect, follow and enforce British Common Law-style rule of law that respects individual rights are prosperous and thrive; where tyrants make up their own law (Bloomberg in NY comes to mind) there is non-ending, grinding poverty and human misery.

            The proof is in the empirical evidence starting with the demise of the state-controlled Soviet Union, but, as noted elsewhere here, North Korea and Cuba are modern examples of state controlled economies which ignore human nature.
            The only way to get the people to go along is through oppression, strong-armed,forced compliance, and eventually murder which is how it played out in the old USSR.
            By the time the entire system imploded, 60 million were dead.

          • Defoe

            Irrespective of what you say, I think it boils down levels of control; that’s why the founders talked in terms of “ordered liberty”.

          • gemjunior

            Yes, in the cases of Old Europe and the monarchies there (and other forms of gov’t ) you’re right, the gov’ts were the arm of the owners. But that’s what was different about the USA for so long. Until 1913 and after that the fomenting of wars for European (Americans) to kill other Europeans. Americans became too fat and happy to really pay attention and do something about their country being infiltrated by a white-hating enemy in all its institutions. And it’s working really really well. Talk of liberty and freedom is, I believe, not idle chatter. If we believe that, we’re really doomed.

    • MikeS

      You got that right. There’s no sense in playing the game when the dice are loaded, especially when the casino owner (non-White House) and the casino security (Eric the red) are the ones who “inspect” them and assure us that they’re “fine” and to keep playing.

    • JohnEngelman

      The United States is a very free and a very democratic country. Civil violence is never justified. It is usually punished at the polls, because it provokes a political backlash.

  • A taxpayer revolt would come first, and be just as effective, and no
    bloodshed. That this is even being talked about is a sign that we are so
    ideologically divided that it’s time to divide the country. Cut it in
    half, dems/libs/socialists/blacks/mexicans etc. get one half, Americans
    get the other half. This way, if the libs want illegal aliens as
    citizens, they can open THEIR border, they want abortions, homosexual (i
    don’t know what “gay” means) marriage, gun control, no voter id, no
    questions asked welfare etc., they can do it in a minute. It’s coming
    folks, and it’s a lot better solution than a civil war

    • MekongDelta69

      ‘gay’ USED TO MEAN ‘happy’.
      ‘queer’ USED TO MEAN ‘odd’.
      ‘niggardly’ USED TO MEAN ‘cheap’.
      ‘issues’ USED TO MEAN ‘problems’.
      ‘like’ USED TO MEAN ‘about’ (e.g. “I’ll be there at ‘like’ 5pm”)

      [Should I continue? I have a ton more!]

      • Katherine McChesney

        Continue.

        • Jane Johnson

          Can I help? Please?
          Money USED TO MEAN currency, (not speech)
          People USED TO MEAN human beings, (not corporations)
          Thank You.

      • sbuffalonative

        As someone else wrote:

        Whiteness now means racism.
        Maleness now means sexism.
        Heterosexual now means homophobia.

        • Freey’all

          I say White Pride means an end to bickering over what defines maleness or femaleness, as both exist in nature; I take these truths to be self-evident. I propose that pro-whites resist reactionary false dichotomies that the elites use to divide us.

        • 1gravity

          When the nasties scream, “Racist, Sexist, Anti-Gay,” at me, my response is, “So?”

      • Bobbala

        fas·cism
        noun
        1. ( sometimes initial capital letter ) a governmental system led by a dictator having complete power, forcibly suppressing opposition and criticism, regimenting all industry, commerce, etc., and emphasizing an aggressive nationalism and often racism.

        …. but it’s OK, now he’s black.

      • Non Humans

        Teens USED TO MEAN Teenagers,
        Youths USED TO MEAN Adolescents,
        Adolescents USED TO MEAN Children,
        Welfare USED TO MEAN Temporary Assistance,
        Immigration Policy USED TO MEAN Restrictive Entry,
        Hos USED TO MEAN a Gardening Tool,
        .
        America USED TO MEAN Greatest Nation on the Planet!!

      • Katherine McChesney

        We’ve been mind-controlled haven’t we Mekong?

        And btw, I despise the label “Ms.”

      • DEFOE

        brief used to mean SHORT. 🙂

  • wattylersrevolt

    There will be an organic-inevitable-grassroots-spontaneous combustion..nobody will see it comming…but it will seem obvious and inevitable in retrospect. Cornball RepubliTard Americana is on life support..the plug will be pulled soon…good riddance.

    The Mega-Corporations are Mega-Force of evil driving the US to implosion..followed by explosion. I see Native Born White American Socialistic-Libertarian Anarchism as the only viable alternative for our people. Millions of nonwhites will be expelled…the CEOs will put on trial for treason…and their stolen wealth confiscated and given back to the people they stole it from…Hedge Funds will be made illegal. Imagine an America without Hedge Funds.

    • wattylersrevolt

      I say brutal Concentration Camps for Bill Gates,Steve Balmer,every Silicon Valley Executive,every Hedge Fund Manager,every Corporate Lawyer,Karl Rove..oh yeah, and a very special place in Concentration Camp Hell for Jack Welch….these are the loathsome scum whose mission in life is to annhilate Native Born White America.

      • Smitty

        You left out McCain and Lindsey Graham

  • NYB

    The time for planning is now.

    An important question will be: how will the organizational interests of the existing police and military be incorporated into the Second American Revolution? The ancillary duties of military officers will be to maintain governance and order, in the absence of a central federal government. How will civilian volunteers, military veterans and law officers be integrated into local and regional commands?

    Much manpower will be needed on short notice. I suggest community leaders begin forging closer ties with military officers as well as rank and file soldiers. National Guardsmen and police should be joining local gun clubs and civilian organizations, which could form the backbone of territorial defense.

  • Aaron

    Start storing tons of rice, beans, and ammo. Get with about five friends and have them do the same. When this kicks of meet up with those friends and have a plan.

    • Bobbala

      Hope for the best, plan for the worst.

    • J. Rockwell

      Excellent plan with respect to defending one’s family against raiding hordes of blacks and browns once the money-printing house of cards crumbles and we enter the Second Depression.

      With respect to fighting the federal government itself, however, it will accomplish naught.

  • Mr. Lloyd

    Nothing is going to happen. Whites are “all hat, no cattle”.

    You’ve lost every White country without a shot being fired.
    PATHETIC

    • Aaron

      I’ll see you on the battle field.

      • Bobbala

        I’m skeptically optimistic on that one.

    • connorhus

      I don’t believe that Mr. Lloyd. Whites are slow to anger and slow to wake up but once they do, well… Continents tremble, Armies march and cities evaporate. No mortal power on this earth compares to an army of White men with a cause.

      • GeneticsareDestiny

        Yes. Whites are slow to wake. They’re like a bear coming out of hibernation. It takes them a while to roll over and shake themselves off, but once they do, the rest of the world watches with bated breath.

    • Katherine McChesney

      Coward. You’d be one of the first who’d find white nationalists to protect you when the hammer goes down.
      You’re all talk and no action. You must be black.

      • ms_anthro

        I’m guessing he’s a White “weak seed” as another Amrenner calls them. They’re defective, deracinated. They know they can’t function in our advanced societies so they strive to tear them down. It’s like a low-IQ peasant scratching a mustache onto the Mona Lisa because he knows, deep in his dullard’s brain, he could never be Da Vinci.

        • Bobbala

          No. People have families, jobs and responsibilities. Even in the 1850’s, men had crops to tend and lives to lead. No sane man volunteers for combat when other options exist. Dwindling options maybe.

          • ms_anthro

            It’s one thing to stay out of it. It’s another to scream defeatism at the first whiff of danger. He’s a coward or a psyops troll. Either way, pay him no mind.

          • Bobbala

            I don’t like it but that’s the way it is. We will bear an increasing, unappreciated burden until the collapse. Whites will then be vilified and blamed as the “minorities” find themselves in command of a kingdom of people incompetent to survive without their oppressors. Like Zimbabwe on a global scale. They even put up a real fight.

          • ms_anthro

            Where does this defeatism come from? Whites have prevailed against much scarier enemies than the ones we face now. We shouldn’t underestimate them but neither should we assign them magical powers they don’t have.

            Who will pay to keep the war machine running after Whites are completely disenfranchised? Zimbabwe is a great example. Last I heard, their new government was down to its last $217. This only proves my point. The anti-Whites hate us but they need us to fight us properly. Once we stop enabling them…poof! As in the final days of the USSR, the people will realize their oppressors are toothless cowards.

          • QuinnTheEskimo9

            There are so many on this thread who think the government has a huge advantage over the population; they do not, but the government wants us to think this. We are armed and many of us have military training while the new, improved military have been emasculated by “diversity”, playing by Marquis de Queensbury rules (tsk tsk, mustn’t offend those who are planting IEDs) and a “pro-homosexual agenda.”
            You watch and see how many Whites are scared rabbits when their very lives and that of their children are being threatened with extermination, because that is what it will come down to, we will be deemed surplus population. We’ve been in this situation before and survived and will again.

          • Bobbala

            Zimbabwe is not recovering. Care to guess where their sustenance comes from? The most horrible racist SOB in American politics (somebody with an actual vote) hints at limiting, someday, some kind of restriction on illegal … you get the idea. Look, I’d be laying down mines and rounding up people in detention camps. They wouldn’t want to come back. Who do I vote for?

          • ms_anthro

            When have I ever suggested that voting is a solution?

    • I’m going to have to agree with you. If this kind of thing was in us, we should have already revolted given the million travesties and outrages just on the race issue alone that has already happened before now.

      See the article about Lindsay Graham today — South Carolinians had a very easy and non-violent way to throw out the known race traitor in 2008. But they didn’t do it then, and they probably won’t do it in 2014. And we’re trusting the same people who can’t properly wield the power of a voting stylus with the power of armed rebellion?

      • Smitty

        Same for arizonians regarding McCain…

        • Defoe

          $$$$$ talks, b***s**** walks.

      • Bobbala

        We can’t even admit the enemy let alone fight one. When little, white girls and nuns are getting shaken down at the airport to protect our diversity, what hope is left for a peaceful resolution?

      • Defoe

        $$$$$ talks, b***s*** walks.

    • ms_anthro

      You’re either a coward or our sworn enemy. Which is it?

      • Bobbala

        He sounds like a realist to me. If you could give an example, I’m sure you would have.

        • ms_anthro

          Give an example of what? We haven’t lost every White country, as we’re still living in them and preparing to take them back. Go jump in a lake, Tokyo Rose. No one is buying what you’re selling anymore.

          • Bobbala

            Pretending isn’t helping anything. I’d love to know where the trend is reversing. We can’t even plug the holes in the US. We can’t even name the parasites. They might be offended. Whites are even footing the bill for their own destruction. Imagine an Africa that had to feed and care for itself. How are we supposed to stop the ship from sinking?

          • ms_anthro

            Don’t make the mistake of conflating “nations” with “governments,” because they are not the same thing. As long as there are White people living and creating and breathing, there are White nations. Our governments may be destroyed but they won’t destroy Western civilization as long as we have breaths in our bodies.

            Which is, of course, why they’re trying so hard to genocide us out of existence. Like all living species, we must fight to survive or we will die. So then the question becomes “Will you fight?”

            Will you, Bobbala?

          • QuinnTheEskimo9

            Excellent reply and spot on. The people and the government are not the same thing. This board has been infiltrated by anti-Whites trying to convince Whites to just “roll over and die” and take it because there’s no hope of defeating he government so why even try.
            Where would you anti-Whites rather live? In North Korea? Cuba? The Soviet Union? Well, which is it? Because that’s what anti-Whites have in store for us Whites. But I don’t think they’ll even allow us to live.

          • Bobbala

            The only place that even pretends to resist is way behind friendly lines. The Midwest, Canada, Alaska will fall. They’re on the way.

            http://dailykenn.blogspot.com/2013/05/by-dailykenn_3.html

          • ms_anthro

            Oh, please. You sound like a frightened old woman.

          • Bobbala

            So where’s that mythical land where the hoards have been turned back.

          • ms_anthro

            Nice straw man but this mythical land is in your imagination, not mine. At this point I’m not sure you’re even reading my posts.

          • Bobbala

            You don’t have a single success story? The only thing I can think of is Charles Martel. We’ve been in pretty much constant retreat.
            I like what your writing. I just don’t have much faith it is true.

          • Mr Plankton

            The Knights of St. John and the Siege of Malta in 1565 is one of the most fascinating and awe inspiring accounts of what white men can do when their backs are against the wall.
            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Malta_(1565)

            http://www.amazon.com/Great-Siege-Malta-1565/dp/075929934X/ref=sr_1_2?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1367854463&sr=1-2&keywords=the+siege+of+malta+1565

            130 years later, 100,00 white men pretty much ended Ottoman expansion into Europe at the Gates of Vienna.

            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Vienna

            Granted all of this stuff happened a long, long time ago but victories nonetheless.

            Don’t give up. When the time comes and it hasn’t yet, I’m sure that you and millions of others will do what is necessary to cauterize the wound. We’ve become soft. Rome became soft. Nations and empires come and go., but European white men have always risen to the occasion. Tacitus bemoaned moral decline and softness in Roman culture as did August Caesar and others, so our situation is not unique.

          • ms_anthro

            These are the stories our people should be sharing and celebrating. Great post, Mr. Plankton. It’s a breath of fresh air in the stench of cowardice and defeatism that permeates this entire discussion.

          • Bobbala

            Good answer. Thank you.

    • That is what Chief Pontiac was thinking in the 1700’s. See, WILDERNESS EMPIRE.

    • Dogbone

      You are correct Mr Lloyd. Americans are the toughest cowards you will meet. All mouth and nothing else. If it is a fair fight, they will make an excuse and run with their tails between their legs. If they can out number someone 100 to 1, that’s when they become brave. I have dealt with enough “Americans” in my life to know that if the police came for their neighbor guns, they wouldn’t do a thing to stop them.

    • trollzforlulz

      Tell that to Hiroshima and Nagasaki,dumbass.

  • Tim_in_Indiana

    Sorry. but I just don’t buy these numbers. If 29% of Americans were really mad as hell and not willing to take it anymore, then why don’t we see mass protests on the streets? We should be seeing demonstrations that would put the Vietnam protests of the ’60s to shame! Instead, all I see are a bunch of brainwashed white couch potatoes being force fed a diet of multicultural “entertainment” while they show far more concern over the health of their manicured lawn and how much storage capacity their next iPod will carry than the rot that is eating this country away from the inside.

    If this many whites were awakened to what is happening, then we wouldn’t be in the mess we’re in in the first place.

    • If 29% of Americans were really mad as hell and not willing to take it
      anymore, then why don’t we see mass protests on the streets?

      And why hasn’t the presented in our peaceful politics more forcefully? An ordinarily good group of people a red Deep South state wouldn’t turn out the known race traitor Lindsay Grahamnesty in 2008 when given a perfectly legitimate and credible alternative in the person of Buddy Witherspoon. (See another AR article today)

    • ms_anthro

      What’s the point of protesting in the streets? We should fight smart, not loud. Why show them who we are? Why make ourselves into easy targets? Why give the MSM whores fodder for their agitprop and smear campaigns?

      Don’t confine yourself to their ways of thinking or their rules. The only rule Whites should have is this: Win at all costs. Street protests keep the proles feeling useful, but what do they really accomplish? Nothing. And that’s why the State allows them to go on.

      Think smart. Think sly. Think “wise as serpents and harmless as doves.”

      • Tim_in_Indiana

        Are you for real? Don’t underestimate the power of protests and just plain speaking out. That’s how the leftists gained the upper hand. They played on white people’s emotions to the degree that we voluntarily surrendered our rights.

        All of this could have been headed off long ago if more whites had spoken out in the early days of the “civil rights” movement as Jared Taylor does today. It’s only if you let it go for too long that your only recourse becomes violence.

        Carleton Putnam laid out the strategy whites should have taken back in the 1960s in Race and Reason; A Yankee View, for which you can find a link in the upper right corner of this page.

        • Freey’all

          Wise as serpents can mean doing both.

        • Non Humans

          Are you for real? Don’t underestimate the power of protests and just plain speaking out. That’s how the leftists gained the upper hand. They played on white people’s emotions to the degree that we voluntarily surrendered our rights.

          The problem with fighting that problem in the form of protests and such nowadays, is that the libtards rooted their brainwash into nearly all major corporations by way of the EEOC and into academia by similar means. That means that anyone willing to publicly and openly speak out against their brainwash is taking great risks with their livelihood, unless they are entrepreneurs, and even then there is usually the risk of losing business. Next to noone is willing or able to do that.
          .
          This is part of the reason why Jared Taylor and the few others like him garner the admiration that they do. Honestly, if I had the education and otherwise ability to make my living speaking out against the libtards and nonhumans, as they do, I would be more than willing to put my all into it. My talents lie elsewhere, though.
          .
          For now, the game that I play is to stock up on staple foods and ammunition, stay abreast of nationalist/realist topics, train, stay physically fit, learn survival techniques, and to study the methods, patterns, and behaviours of (all of) our enemies. When it does break-off, for whatever reason, I want to be as valuable to our cause as possible.
          .
          I want to have as many “Tally Marks” as I am able to….IF you know what I mean.

        • Bad_Mr_Frosty

          Ok, what have the massive protests and riots done in France and Greece? Nothing, our leadership doesn’t care about protests. They will not have the patience and restraint conservatives did in the 60s. If we try peaceful protests, they will use force without hesitation and call themselves heroes for stopping evil Nazis.

          We cannot use peaceful resistance because we are not fighting the same type of people peaceful resistance was designed to be used against.

          • David Ashton

            Much easier said than done, but patriots must emulate the pre-war communists – a “struggle” at ALL levels, elections, protests, strikes, infiltration, front organisations, etc.

          • Morris LeChat

            massive protests are necessary in the beginning to bring people out and make them aware they are not alone. They need to feel their “mob” strength.

        • ms_anthro

          You can’t play fair with cheaters. Leftism is based on the idea that we must level the playing field for even the worst losers in society, at gunpoint. What they can’t achieve via a fair legislative process, they ramrod through via “judicial activism” and executive orders. Again, protest all you like, but while you’re out there begging for cheaters to finally play fair and “give” you your rights, the rest of us will be preparing to defend our very lives from the human trash that would put us in cages or graves for resisting their cult’s dogma.

          Break your mental chains. These people cannot be reasoned with or swayed. They are members of a death cult and facts, reality, truth, appeals to higher ideals (they have none) don’t sway them. Are you going to try and deprogram a whole society or are you going to be genuinely effective? Your choice.

          • Defoe

            If you can, find a copy, e-copy or otherwise, of UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES, by John Ross.

    • connorhus

      29% as a whole is not a tipping point. Some report a lower percentage number for support of the American Revolution as a whole although others report a higher percentage. What really matters is getting to a 50% or higher percentage of support in one particular geographical area and then throwing a match on it.

      That’s when you see the flames take over.

  • bigone4u

    That the women support armed rebellion in equal proportions to the men is an encouraging sign. Rebellion without the support of women will not work IMO. Let’s hope a healty discussion of the idea ensues now that it’s in the open.

    • joegoofinoff

      Women are always with their Husbands, Sons, Fathers, Brothers, Uncles, etc.

      • bigone4u

        GOOD women are with their loved ones. Too many women have no husband today.

        • beano

          Why buy the cow when the milk is free?

        • WhiteWoman

          Does that somehow mean I am less loyal to my people?

          • connorhus

            No but a huge chunk of White Women certainly are not loyal to their people.

          • WhiteWoman

            We need to honor and respect them and I assure you that most will be.

      • robinbishop34

        Unfortunately I’m not so sure about that.

        • robin

          I agree, we have millions of white women who are clueless to the scam they are being suckered into by the “diversity” crowd, the union crowd, the ‘we are the world’ crowd.

          • François

            Such women, if you say something like “Affirmative action is unfair and it just has to go!”, will probably look shocked, or sad, and answer “Oh, I can’t believe you could say something soooo racist!”.

          • Beloved Comrade

            Wait until their own children are locked out of universities, jobs and careers and their husband passed over and refused promotions or raises in favor of blacks and see how much longer they support AA.

          • Beloved Comrade

            Wait until there’s a knock on the door, or a knock on the head and see how fast those white women shun the diversity and union crowd.
            The left is full of empty rhetoric and ideology, all of it false. The brainwashing is so deep that white women are being taught to shun white men in favor of blacks and eschew having white babies.
            But, blood is thicker than water and it may take seeing one’s white child beaten, robbed, stabbed or killed before it wears off.

        • joegoofinoff

          Anytime a woman sees a relative being beaten, killed, harmed, they’re always for their relative – blood.

    • GeneticsareDestiny

      The worse things get, the more women will be on our side.

      If there’s one thing that could get women to become race realists and anti-government, it will be the teeming masses of minorities threatening their children. More white neighborhoods are lost every day.

      As the ghetto expands into the realm white women have settled down in to raise their children, they will come to our side. They won’t tolerate their children being in danger.

      • François

        Their instincts will kick in! That’s what we need: White people feeling their survival instincts again!

        Come to think of it, this anti-White, modern liberal thing, is about the most sick, unnatural garbage, one could ever imagine.

  • ms_anthro

    I like how they made sure to mention that those who voted patriot were more like to be “uneducated.” Is there any better evidence that modern “education” is just leftist indoctrination? A compliment for our side, however unintentional.

    • robin

      you’re correct. I saw it being taught.

      Groupthink and grouphug is much more prevalent than dig in and learn.

      and then there is the outright “the left is correct, the right is wrong” being taught in public schools.

      • François

        “Groupthink and grouphug is much more prevalent than dig in and learn.”

        Because it is easier, simpler, quicker. It is seductive to the weak minds.

  • Tim_in_Indiana

    If you broke those poll numbers down, I’ll bet you would find that the reasons for an armed rebellion would vary wildly depending on who you asked. Some would probably say taxes are too high, others would say the politicians are all just a bunch of crooks, but very few would name immigration or racial issues as the reason. Whites are just too brainwashed. If there were an armed rebellion, the rebels would just end up fighting each other.

    • There’s another issue: Everyone who is in the armed rebellion worldview are disgruntled for very different reasons. You have your black unchained Djangos, your white Marxists, your Hispanic Razatards/Aztlan nuts on one end, to some of us on the other end, with a whole lot of in between. Get all of us disgruntleds in a room, and we’ll wind up fighting each other way worse and way sooner than we start fighting any formal instrumentalities of the state.

      • Beetlejuice

        They may hate each other but they hate whites even more.

        This is because the entertainment industry and schools have taught them that whites are the reason for their failures and poverty.

  • I see vigilante justice beginning very soon. It will be dealt with very harshly too. The white man that shoots, but does not kill, the nergo trying to rape is 10 year old daughter, will receive a harsher sentence than the negro.
    We have 4 years of Obama and Holder to go. It is going to get much worse.

    • Dogbone

      Here is a 13 year old white boy that tried to rape his mother, and then shot her.

      http://whitewatch.info/2012/04/03/boy-13-who-shot-dead-his-mother-37-with-a-hunting-rifle-after-attempting-to-sexually-abuse-her-.aspx

      Here is a statement made by the “health professionals”:

      “The 13-year-old boy who allegedly
      shot his 37-year-old mother dead with a hunting rifle is also facing
      ‘unheard of’ charges that he tried to sexually abuse her.

      Now, authorities are saying Noah
      Crooks also tried to sexually abuse his mother, which mental health
      professionals say they have never encountered among juveniles.”

      I guess these “Health Professionals” have never heard of Oedipus and Sigmund Freud. Supposedly all children want to have sex with their parent.

      P.S. The kid, the mother, and her husband look like they could be Engleman’s relatives. The Husband even looks like the dead Boston Bomber. I am sure they had common ancestors.

    • Bobbala

      George Zimmerman should have fled the country while he still had a chance.

      • Katherine McChesney

        Where would he have gone?

        • Ingsoc

          To a country w/o an extradition policy with the US. Israel may offer sanctuary, his step-father is Jewish.

          • PesachPatriot

            Israel would be a very poor choice of countries for mr. zimmerman to flee to…it is geographically a very small place and he could be found pretty easily. They also receive a a pretty nice foreign aid check from the US treasury each year…all obama would have to do is threaten to withhold aid or cause trouble at the UN and mr. zimmerman would be turned over in less time than it takes a domino’s pizza to be delivered.

    • Beetlejuice

      When the rule of law breaks down, vigilante justice is the inevitable outcome.

      It may start out as obvious violence with blame place on whites, but it will move underground, under the government’s radar and it will be bloody and violent as whites seek retribution for the assaults, rapes, murders, robberies and other inequities we have been forced to suffer for decades from blacks and other nonWhites, while the authorities did nothing.

    • François

      It is very, very unfortunate… but perhaps this is what too many people need to see things as they are, and finally “wake up” and see that we must take a stand, before things get so bad that it will be too late?

  • sbuffalonative

    Cessions would solve everyone’s problems; a peaceful, no-fault divorce.

    • Bobbala

      Fletcher: You scratched my car!

      Motorpool Guy: Where?

      Fletcher: [indicating with his hands] Right there!

      Motorpool Guy: OH… That was already there.

      Fletcher: You – -LIAR! You know what I am going to do about this?

      Motorpool Guy: what?

      Fletcher: Nothing! Because if I take it to small claims court, it will just drain 8 hours out of my life and you probably won’t show up and even if I got the judgment you’d just stiff me anyway; so what I am going to do is piss and moan like an impotent jerk, and then bend over and take it up the tailpipe!

      Motorpool Guy: [tossing the keys to Fletcher] You’ve been here before haven’t ya?

    • tickyul

      HAHA, Libscum do not want that…..they want Whitey under their boots.

    • Freey’all

      It would be nice but c’mon, been there and done that – it’s called the Civil War. Overall, whites lost the future. Maybe it happened later…but the point is, secession isn’t something we can think of just yet. We need to organize both openly and privately amongst ourselves, become activist, and then think on the future. But just backing away and thinking we’ll win is IMO somewhat antediluvian, and dangerous for our interests.

      • sbuffalonative

        A mighty oak grows from an acorn. It’s time to plant the seed in peoples minds.

        I’m not looking for a CWII. It’s what I’m trying to prevent. We need to talk about how it would be good for the left and the right to separate.

        Liberals are the ones who don’t want cession because they know they’re parasites and their liberal policies couldn’t be supported without conservative work ethics and the money it generates.

        Just imagine liberals setting up their own territory and setting up astronomical tax rates to fund their programs.

        “Progressive” liberals need us and they know it. That’s why they won’t let us leave peacefully.

        • MikeS

          “A mighty oak grows from an acorn.”
          —————————————–
          Yes it can, provided it is left to do so. It can also live for 450+ years. However, even the largest one can be cut down in a matter of minutes. If that oak tree lying on ground is the USA, all I want to know is who’s holding the axe?

          • sbuffalonative

            ‘I’m not going to plant a seed because after all my hard work, someone may come by and cut down my tree’.

            Giving into defeat before you try is hopelessness.

          • MikeS

            You misunderstood my comment. Who said anything about giving up? As for the axeman, even if the USA were to be “cut down” I will continue to seek him out and shoot him where he stands and anyone who even thinks about helping him. My comment was quite the opposite of your take on it. Even when everything seems lost and the USA is on the forest floor as it were and must be “re-planted” I will be there, acorn in hand.

        • François

          “Just imagine liberals setting up their own territory and setting up astronomical tax rates to fund their programs.”

          That sounds like anything but a viable new society!

      • Interested Party

        “secession isn’t something we can think of just yet”

        Sure it is. It’s the only thing that will work. Any other strategy is simply running out the clock until it’s too late. How long has Taylor been on this mission of his? Has it worked so far? Even after years of a terrible economy, endless war, a racist AG, a dysfunctional government/disconnected congress (gang of 8), looming gun bans, endless media assaults (Zimmerman, Dorner, Django, Duke Rape case, Jena 6, etc.) and the nation’s first black president, WN (or race realism) has made little or no progress.

        In that light, the chances of it ever working are nil. Whites cannot be awakened; they are too diverse and too interested in advancing themselves with egalitarianism. Greeks and Russians are waking up, NOT whites. That’s the difference between us and them. “White” is not a unified ethnicity and never will be. By the time some whites “wake up” the rest of the country will be long gone and those whites will be hated minorities in their own country.

        “We need to organize both openly and privately amongst ourselves, become activist, and then think on the future.”

        Will never happen. The media will label all such activists as Nazis/racists. When that happens, kiss your life goodbye.

        • ms_anthro

          I didn’t realize we have a seer among us! Care to divulge the next winning Powerball numbers while you’re at it, anti-White defeatist?

        • David Ashton

          Defeatism is an enemy weapon.

    • Defoe

      Secession has been tried by Quebec for a long time now without success. Why do you think it will succeed with us? Real question.

  • http://chuckbaldwinlive.com/home/archives/5618

    “Does anyone believe that the American people are spending all of this money purchasing all of these guns and all of this ammo with the intention that they will turn around a few months later and surrender them to the federal government? HECK NO!”

    I said this myself a few months ago. Now Christian preachers are saying too.

    • I think the real reason for our mass buying is fear of blacks and Hispanics coming even more unhinged than they are already.

      • Non Humans

        I believe that it is a combination of that and collective fear of an economic collapse.

        • “Fear of economic collapse” is basically another way of saying “race.” If the economy does tank in a hurry, guess who is going to cause the most problems? Them and them.

      • Bad_Mr_Frosty

        “Economic collapse” is the #1 reason from what I’ve heard. That can mean both riots by diversity or a police state to “maintain public order”

  • libertarian 1234

    To me the most likely scenario is civil war. And it will evolve over a period of time and could well transition through various stages, beginning with an economic plunge, which will reduce government revenue, requiring severe austerity measures…..job layoffs big time…..a devalued dollar, causing rampant inflation…..the US dollar no longer recognized as a reserve currency due to an out-of-control debt to GDP ratio and a devalued dollar…..etc.

    The government’s attempts to acquire revenue would involve a Cypress-style heavy tax on all IRA’s and 401K’s, and property taxes would skyrocket, causing government property seizures for non-payment of taxes.

    This would send white people into the streets. A cut off of all social freebies would send blacks and others into the streets.

    Hispanics and blacks in California would escalate their ongoing warfare to armed, open conflict, and it would snowball, along black/Hispanic lines all across the nation. Black and Hispanic gangs would be fighting in every urban area in the country.

    White militias would explode from about 1000 now in existence to several dozen in each state with thousands of members each.

    The government would try to contain the fighting, but would be severely weakened with mass defections, breaking along lines of race, ethnicity and politics, and the country would be economically crippled so severely public sector employees couldn’t be paid and would leave to care for their families and join their respective groups for protection.

    Fighting sporadically between factions from sea to sea and from the northern border to the southern one would stretch government forces too thin to be effective.

    And then……………………………………………..

    • ricpic

      Thanks for your comment. First an economic implosion and then who knows? But without the implosion the white retreat will continue indefinitely. It will take the loss of even a vestige of comfort before whites take that huge leap from words to deeds.

    • Non Humans

      This doesn’t even consider what foreign nations unfriendly to us and our foreign interests would do given the opportunity of a completely unstable UoA. This would be an extrmely good opportunity for them to do god knows what to us….

      • Bad_Mr_Frosty

        Meh, a global economic collapse will cause chaos throughout the world. China will definitely see a revolution once the CCP cannot maintain GDP growth. Russia’s economy will collapse when it has no customers for its gas and oil. Russian Nationalists are getting very antsy as well, we may see a revolution in Russia too.

        Overall, I think the threat from outside is minimal.

        • Beetlejuice

          Agreed. Our threat is from the inside.

          If we go down, China will go down as well, Russia most likely too. They are busy keeping their own population under control, especially China with it’s various warring ethnic groups.

          • David Ashton

            We have to anticipate alternative geopolitical impacts from China and its overseas communities on the west, and seek co-operation with white patriots in the former USSR.

        • Morris LeChat

          China has some very soft vulnerabilities. There are calamities just waiting to happen over there. The collapse of their economy is just one. They also built a huge dam, the three gorges dam, that has already showed worrisome cracks. They also have a cyclical pattern of devastating floods that are connected to the nature of their agriculture. They use levees to direct the water throughout their country. Over time silt settles to the bottom of the levees and the sides must be built higher. Great devastating floods happen when the levees are much higher than the surrounding land and heavy rains overburden them. After the levees burst and there is much devastation and then starvation, they start again with new channels and levees and over time the situation repeats itself. The levees get higher and higher. The irrigation system in China today is in a very precarious state, the levees are the highest they have ever been. What I see happening in China is that the economy falters, and civil unrest follows. The great bonanza in dollars earned from exports has been channeled mostly into the construction of cities that are empty, while many people who lived in that area have been pushed aside, dispossessed. There is a HUGE mass of unhappy Chinese.
          NExt, I see that once discontent is expressed openly, the system will start to fail and any small breaches of the levees will not be dealt with and the situation will become catastrophic. A breach of the dam at the same time would be a HUGE hit for China. The whole system would collapse into anarchy at that point and China’s history would be repeating the age old phenomenon of “peasant rebellion”. millions usually die in this circumstance, in the China of today it could be hundreds of millions.

          • Beloved Comrade

            Excellent post, Morris.
            What people don’t understand is that China is not a homogeneous land or society. There is a lot of unrest in China from non-Chinese who don’t like being under the thumb of Chinese communist dictators.
            With that said, there is no need to bring a single one of them here.

          • Morris LeChat

            Personally, I have nothing against them. They can be quite interesting and pleasant to talk to, the ones I meet at Universities, but yes, they should not remain here. As Jarred Taylor stated in his latest video from England, we have a right to exist as a white country and the eradication of a “white” America would be an atrocity.

          • Defoe

            But what about the J. E. position that the Chinese are smarter than us Whites? Surely they can solve their problems and take care of all their beutiful women.

          • Morris LeChat

            Have you ever seen a Chinese woman get mad? Some serious stuff goes down. I was in a take out restaurant and the phone kept ringing. Of course I could not understand what was being said but it seemed obvious what was going on. Every time they answered it they would yell to one of the cooks, he would grumble back and dismiss them with a wave of his hand. This happened about three times. Then, a couple of minutes later a small skinny, VERY angry Chinese woman came in, grabbed a chefs knife, and went after the guy. The others intervened but believe me, Asians have a temper and are capable of violence too. From what I have seen, it seem Chinese women are much harder on their men. They will demean them as losers and poor providers. The men seem to just shrug it off as if to say, meh, she’s just being a silly woman. They drive their men very hard.

          • Morris LeChat

            HE is only repeating what his inflatable asian girlfriend told him, it is all just hot air

  • Bobbala

    What else are you going to do, vote republican?

  • Let’s face it, there is an all out war on Whites by minorities–aided and embolden by Barack Obama, Eric Holder and many cabinet members, not to mention the complacent and cowardly media. Minority on White crime is exploding and it is literally ignored by this administration.

    Furthermore, the policies of the socialist Barack Obama reward illegals and takers in society, while making those who actually produce and contribute to the economy the enemy of all society.

    Not to forget that Obama is hell-bent to disarm otherwise law-abiding Americans–while refusing to go after the real cause of gun violence—minority gangs and thugs who terrorize most cities in this country.

    No wonder over a quarter of Americans see an armed revolution coming…..

    • Freey’all

      Mostly he’s hell-bent to disarm WHITE Americans.

  • Bobbala

    My Dog

    I went down to the Benefits Office this morning to sign on my Dog.

    The woman said, “Dogs are not eligible to draw benefit”.

    I explained to her that my Dog is Black, Unemployed, Idle, can’t speak
    English and has no clue who his Dad is.

    She looked in her policy book to see what it takes to qualify.

    He gets his first check on Friday.

    Is this a great country, or what?

    • Bon, From the Land of Babble

      The IRS sent my Tax Return back! AGAIN!!!

      I guess it was because of my response to the question: “List all dependents?”

      I replied –

      “30 million illegal immigrants;

      “3 million crack heads;

      “42 million unemployable people on food stamps;

      “2 million people in over 243 prisons;

      “Half of Mexico; and,

      “535 fools in the U.S. House and Senate.”

      Apparently, this was NOT an acceptable answer.

      Bon

      • dmxinc

        Don’t forget the guy and his family in the White House.

        You made my wife and me laugh. Thanks!

      • Bobby

        Bon, that’s one of the cleverest posts whether it’s true or not that I’ve ever read LOL. I’m not questioning it’s truth, true it definetly is!!

      • LaSantaHermandad

        I love it. I do hope that you really did it.

  • thoughtcrime

    “Revolution is the only solution.”

    -Dr. William Luther Pierce

  • ye ol’ swampyankee

    But here’s the rub.

    The Department of Homeland Security headed by Janet Napolitano, lists Gun Owners, Christians, Constitutionalists, returning Veterans and even Ron Paul supporters as potential terrorists. So let me ask: Of the above listed, what race do you think these groups overwhelmingly include? All DHS profiling and military mock exercises, depicting domestic terrorists, seem to lack one common physical trait,- a lack of the pigment melanin.

    If armed conflict does indeed become a reality, it will be largely an internal white versus white conflict initially. Mostly white citizens now para- militants and elements of the military loyal to the Republic, versus government agencies and elements of the military who’s allegiance will remain loyal to the big bank takeover and New World Order operatives.

    Leave it to the white power structures to turn on their own race. Since whites as a representative group in this US, is the only group capable of derailing their plans, they’ll destroy their own to achieve those goals.

    The deconstruction of America is happening right under the noses of all but a small percentage of aware Americans. You won’t find truth by watching FOX, CNN, MSNBC, HLN, CBS, NBC or ABC, as they are all government influenced mouthpieces. The big broadcasters aren’t sometimes referred to as” Infotainers” for nothing.

    Alternate sources of print news and talk radio are the only alternatives to learn what the hell is going on.

    • Bobbala

      Didn’t “potential terrorist” used to be called Americans back in the old days?

      • ye ol’ swampyankee

        Well. . . .

        They are being called that once again. This time by their own government. White Americans that is.

  • jackryanvb

    Put aside gun revolutionary fantasies.

    Learn to use the effective weapons, tactics of the Left.

    • I’ve been wondering when you were going to come along and help me out on this thread. It seems like you and I are the only people with brains so far. I wish some of our people posting this outlandish stuff would come back and actually read what they wrote.

      • Jackryanvb

        QD – put me on your short list file.

        We’re starting some things new, effective. Not the same old, same old.

        We’re looking to win some things.

      • Freey’all

        Excuse me but I have voiced my dissent here. Right now we need to study the tactics of the left and the right as both sides are against Whites. Start with the neo-cons.

      • Bad_Mr_Frosty

        QD, you don’t seem to have a clear view of what’s going on. We are currently seeing the largest arm-up of any population since the invention of the firearm. People are not spending all that money just to hand their property over to the government. This buying spree accelerated when the government started going after guns. People are buying guns in defiance of the government, most will not cooperate with government confiscation.

        This will turn into a shooting war pretty soon, I don’t see what is “outlandish” about that truth.

        • We’re buying guns and ammo like there’s no tomorrow in fear of our not being able to get them and that we’ll need them to defend ourselves against wild mobs of blacks and Hispanics. It’s race far more than molon labe.

          • BonusGift

            You are wrong, it’s more molon labe if anything. I know why I bought them, yet you seem confused? Either way, you’re wrong about my motives and those of many/most of the people I know. For example, the ramp up in purchases began before the 2008 election was decided, and well before Holder and Soetoro tipped their hands. You can talk all day but millions of people figured out a long time ago what you still seem unable to see; namely, they are coming for them and you are likely to need them. Also, to prove the point, purchases are relatively high everywhere, not just around urban zones where the people you fear live. In short, your comment is not backed by the timing or especially the geographic distribution of purchases; the proof doesn’t support your assertion.

        • Anonymous

          I got an email notification from Midway that .38 special ammo had been acquired. The email was less than an hour old. I went to the site and it had already sold out. This is the second time.
          SG, Lucky Gunner and CTD are still totally out of .38 SP, .357 Mag., and .22 LR

          • Defoe

            Ok, that’s for the close-in work. What about .308, .338 lapua magnum, and .50 bmg?

    • the Left in america is really just another wing of the Right, but using different propaganda and achieving different goals.

      Both sides work for the rich.

      • That’s funny, I see it as the other way around: What passes for the American “right” is just a less left “left.” And both work for the egalitarian establishment.

    • What exactly is it that you do effectively?

    • Non Humans

      Learn to use them both. Both will be necessary. A sharp and educated mind with proficiency in the use of many different kinds of weapons is absolutely frightening to the elites. Many of our vets are really being called terrorists by DHS for this very reason.
      .
      They know the tricks to being effective in urban/guerilla warfare, and most have a disdain for the way our government conducts business. This aint exactly the America or the Government of our Grandpas.

    • Bobbala

      It’s hard to reason with “Bush, Chimp, Nazi, Racist, Haliburton”.

    • Interested Party

      Too late. You’re now fighting an uphill battle against opponents who control all the most advanced cognitive weaponry (lawyers, academics, the media, think tanks, the entertainment industry, many prominent scientists, etc.) while you have none (besides a few websites)…and they will have numbers on their side soon enough.

      It took the left decades to take over everything. Even if you could do the same, Los Estados Unidos would be long lost by the time you did…or has no one been paying attention to the amnesty debate?. Secession is the only viable option. I cannot believe that there are people so dense that they cannot see this. Every other post is “whites need to wake up” (even though they’ve been given every reason to and haven’t) or “whites are slow to wake up but when they do…” (even though there is little evidence that they ever will or will succeed when they do) or “whites need to become activists” (much like saying you need to throw a hail Mary with 2 seconds left at the end of the fourth).

      It just isn’t going to happen. Some people tried to resist in both Rhodesia and South Africa. They lost – betrayed by their own self-righteous people. Peaceful secession can work. The Empire has no argument against it. They supported it in both Yugoslavia and in Africa. What’s good enough for them is good enough for us. Better yet, growing numbers are supporting it in those states. Self-determination is a fundamental right according to the imperium. The world would reject any empire that refused to practice what it preaches on such a right and they know it.

      • jackryanvb

        We can and must use the effective tactics of the Left to fight four stated goal of some smaller, independent White homeland, PLE.

        Revolutionary gun fantasies aren’t going to work.

        Instead, take over some local White area, make the march through local institutions, once we win some towns, counties, go for a whole state – a governor, most, all the county board chairmen.

        Please understand, the same old, same old Right wing strategies have failed, things like:

        Wasting all our time, money and hope on long shot Presidential campaigns. When these constitutionalist Libertarian Presidential campaigns fail, and they always do, our side gives up on all mainstream politics and becomes obsessed with gun revolutionary fantasies and conspiracy theory paranoia.

        We need to learn to play to win.

        • ms_anthro

          Care to substantiate your claim that “Revolutionary gun fantasies aren’t going to work”? Because they worked pretty well in 1776.

          You don’t speak for me or patriots like me. “We” don’t need to do anything but resist tyranny by any means necessary, and make those who attempt to inflict it upon us accountable–every last one of them.

  • brengunn

    Support levels were similar among males and females but higher among less educated voters.

    This is the reason that it will never happen. As long as a significant proportion of realists are uneducated with violent tendencies, the movement will never have mass appeal and thus be bound to failure.

    • edie

      what they call less educated is sometimes someone with a Batchelors degree vs someone with a PHD……….. iow- the writer will spin it the way he wants to support or take the argument

      • brengunn

        I don’t think so Edie. It’s no secret that this demographic is attracted to race realism and the politics of the right, in general.

        • Freya

          What do you mean by this demographic is attracted to race realism specifically? I don’t think the majority of middle class whites care for or identify with the IQ fetishists at all, and many race realists fall into that category.

      • Freya

        brengunn gets kind of snooty and elitist sometimes. He’s a good guy but not the most pragmatic or realistic in many ways. Sorry if I sound rude, bren.

    • Like I said elsewhere in this thread, a big chunk of the Democrats who are part of this mentality are black militants and Django Unchained types, and that’s probably the reason why the educational averages of the 29% in total are lower than the 71% who opposeit.

      • Andy

        Yes, but it’s also because poor whites have more contact with minorities than wealthy whites do.

        • Katherine McChesney

          But it’s the wealthy who are for supporting the blacks and ‘messicans’.

    • Bobbala

      Not uneducated, less indoctrinated.

  • Luca

    No doubt, this country is so morally, politically and economically corrupt an internal armed rebellion is a distinct possibility I sometimes post comments on Liberal websites just for laughs. The responses I get are so vile, ignorant, hateful and rooted in nonsensical propaganda that it is clear to see we are just as divided now as we were in 1860. The problem now is there are not just two opposing ideologies.

    The liberals, minorities, gays, anarchists, communists, environmentalists, the media, academia and a good deal of women are against the White, Christian, heterosexual, males of this country. Thank God for the Second Amendment which will protect us against thisTyranny..

    • Freya

      The only ‘good’ label I really fit into above is WHITE and yet I am as militantly for my people and race as anyone on here.

    • JohnEngelman

      The right is also divided.

      Few on the left are enthusiastic about President Obama. I have never heard one of his supporters call him the Messiah. Nevertheless, virtually everyone on the left agrees that he is vastly better than any possible Republican rival.

      • Luca

        Nevertheless, virtually everyone on the left is not living in reality and most are just useful indoctrinated idiots. Maybe you have never heard it, but they act like he is the Messiah. What they think or agree upon is irrelevant. The problem with this country now is that the Left is in charge and has never been more radical.

  • Inki Snowe

    We are engaged in a cold civil war right now.

    • IstvanIN

      Not quite cold considering all the murders, rapes, & attacks that take place plus the destruction of our major cities. Camden, Detroit, Baltimore are less livable then Dresden in 1945.

  • David Brims

    The only person who has done anything to protect his country is Anders Breivik in Norway.

    • beano

      What a hero. Murdered a bunch of kids.

      • David Brims

        Beano

        He put a bomb outside the Norwegian prime ministers office in Oslo, then he went to the island which was the summer camp of the youth wing of the Labour party, they were completely indoctrinated by cultural marxism and would become future leaders of the Labour party.

        Norway has a population of 5 million, the socialists have brought in 400,000 immigrants.

    • Eran S.

      Useful idiots like Breivik and Mcveigh serve to do nothing positive for Whites, and actually turn centrist Whites away from nationalism. Pierce aptly described such acts of senseless violence by lone wolves as “temper tantrums,” because they accomplish nothing but make Whites look like child-killing lunatics.

      Not to mention, Breivik was a rabid Zionist neocon who was a member of the Freemasons. Hardly a role model for Whites.

  • JohnEngelman

    In the United States those who initiate the use of violence inspire a counter reaction that benefits the other side. This happened during the civil rights movement when segregationist violence contributed to the passing of the Civil Rights Act of 1964. It happened several years later when the black ghetto riots turned the United States into a Republican country.

    • edie

      most, maybe all, of the civil rights violence from circa 1964 was media staged

      • Bon, From the Land of Babble

        Or maybe the media only told ONE side of the story, as they’re wont to do — anything to portray Whites in a bad light — as racists, bigots, haters, etc. and blacks and other non-Whites as peaceful victims of White savagery.

        Never forget: The mainstream media are an enemy of Whites.

        Bon

        • BonusGift

          Yes, don’t expect the tribe to report from an unbiased perspective.

        • JohnEngelman
          • Interested Party

            Sure it does. It can easily lie by omission. How many cameras are there to document minority violence in proportion to its actual occurrence? And why are we shown endless Civil Rights photographs but few photographs of the perpetrators of robberies and sexual assaults?

          • JohnEngelman

            In 1961, the Freedom Riders, a dedicated group of men and women, black and white, young and old (many from university and college campuses) across the country boarded buses, trains and planes bound for the deep South to challenge that region‘s outdated Jim Crow laws and the non-compliance with a US Supreme Court decision already three years old that prohibited segregation in all interstate public transportation facilities…

            The next morning the Freedom Rides boarded the buses and took their places…

            They met little resistance along the way until Rockville, S.C. where an angry mob beat the Freedom Riders as they pulled into the station. This was the first of many such beatings the Freedom Riders were to receive at the hands of angry mobs…

            Undaunted by the beatings. the Freedom Riders continued on their journey until Mother’s Day, May, 14th, 1961…

            a mob of men who had been following the bus got out of their cars and surrounded the stricken bus. From somewhere in the crowd a firebomb was thrown inside the bus and exploded. As the Freedom Riders tried to escape the smoke and flames they found they could not as the exit doors were blocked by the surging mob. Just then one of the gas tanks exploded on the bus and the mob rushed back allowing the Freedom Riders to push the doors open and escape.

            As they exited the burning bus, the Freedom Riders rushed outside still choking from the thick smoke and were beaten by the waiting vigilantes. As lead pipes and baseball bats were swung, only an onboard undercover agent prevented the Freedom Riders from being lynched that day as he fired his gun into the air. Later that same day the Freedom Riders were beaten a second time as they arrived in Birmingham, Alabama.
            http://www.freedomridersfoundation.org/id16.html

            The “liberal media” did not make that up. It really happened.

          • anarchyst

            Your “Freedom Rider” treatise is one reason why many whites do not trust those of the “tribe”. It is no secret that many jews (actually modern-day “carpetbaggers” from the north) actively supported the so-called “civil-rights (for some” movement along with the media. People that lived in the affected communities were all described as “racists” and “bigots”. The violence and disgusting acts by the “freedom riders” were conveniently omitted from any news reports. For one, how would you feel if outsiders came into your peaceful tranquil community and proceeded to “start trouble”?
            One incident sticks in my mind–the “Detroit housewife” Viola Liuzzo who was killed while traveling around the south with these so-called “freedom riders”. As she had a family in Detroit, what the hell was she doing riding around with blacks at that volatile conditions of the times?
            As to your “lynching of blacks” statement, it is fact that many more whites were lynched than blacks. Lynching in itself was a relatively uncommon form of “frontier justice”.

          • JohnEngelman

            The violence and disgusting acts by the “freedom riders” were conveniently omitted from any news reports.

            – anarchyst

            What “violence and disgusting acts” by the freedom riders?

            Post an incident and document your source.

          • JohnEngelman

            One incident sticks in my mind–the “Detroit housewife” Viola Liuzzo who was killed while traveling around the south with these so-called “freedom riders”. As she had a family in Detroit, what the hell was she doing riding around with blacks at that volatile conditions of the times?

            – anarchyst

            She had the courage to risk her life with the freedom riders on behalf of a cause she believed in. She threatened no one. She was a victim of segregationist terrorism.

          • Luca

            She was a pawn of the organizers and agitators who knew what would happen in the deep south. They were used as bait in hopes of catching headlines and furthering the agenda of division and making money.

          • JohnEngelman

            She sacrificed her life on behalf of a cause she believed in. That was the cause of racial equality. That was a noble cause. It is not her fault that many blacks were unworthy of it. It was not her fault that many segregationists were violent thugs.

            Her agenda was not of division. Her agenda was of “one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.”

            She did not get rich. She got murdered.

          • Luca

            As would be expected, you pontificate on a subject I never introduced. I never said she got rich. I was peaking of her organizers.

            She was a pawn and was used by the organizers. While in her mind she was doing something justified, her organizers had the black Riders go into White restrooms and White ones go into black restrooms. Now tell me, is that a wise errand to send a naive White woman into a negro restroom in the deep South? Couldn’t she just have held up a protest sign or something?

            They took advantage of weak minded liberals who had lofty ideals and no sense of realism. She certainly did get murdered and her organizers absolutely knew that was a distinct possibility. What kind of vile filth leads a disillusioned woman into harm’s way just to further their agenda?

            I repeat: She was a pawn, a White pawn.

            Had she been black we would have had another Rosa Parks mythology in our history books.

          • JohnEngelman

            Luca this is what you said, “They were used as bait in hopes of catching headlines and furthering the agenda of division and making money.” Those who organized the freedom rides did not become rich as a result.

          • Luca

            John, Wake up. The lawyers got rich.

          • JohnEngelman

            As to your “lynching of blacks” statement, it is fact that many more whites were lynched than blacks. Lynching in itself was a relatively uncommon form of “frontier justice”.

            – anarchyst

            From 1882-1968, 4,743 lynchings occurred in the United States. Of these people that were lynched 3,446 were black. The blacks lynched accounted for 72.7% of the people lynched. These numbers seem large, but it is known that not all of the lynchings were ever recorded. Out of the 4,743 people lynched only 1,297 white people were lynched. That is only 27.3%. Many of the whites lynched were lynched for helping the black or being anti lynching and even for domestic crimes…

            Most of the lynchings that took place happened in the South…

            Of the lynching that did not take place in the South, mainly in the West, were normally lynchings of whites, not blacks. Most of the lynching in the West came from the lynching of either murders or cattle thief’s.
            http://www.chesnuttarchive.org/classroom/lynchingstat.html

          • Luca

            Lynching is vigilante justice. Apparently blacks were breaking the law at a greater rate than whites between 1882 – 1968 and they were being dealt with by vigilantes. We know today that their crime rate is seven times greater than whites. Therefore if blacks were lynched at the historical rate of 3 to 1 over whites, I would say they were woefully underrepresented.

          • JohnEngelman

            What you say is probably true.

            In San Jose, California two white men were lynched in 1934 for kidnapping and murder. The lynching was brutal, but there is no doubt about their guilt. When I lived in San Jose the old timers told me that the crime rate in San Jose went way down after that.

          • Luca

            Are you aware the largest mass lynching in US history was of 11 Italians in 1891 New Orleans?

            http://www.cnn.com/2012/07/10/opinion/falco-italian-immigrants

            Many lynchings were brought about by hatred and rage within mobs that were not controlled by local authorities or under cover of darkness. The innocent suffered with the guilty. many of those lynched got the street justice they deserved a lesser amount did not.

            The portrait of the KKK riding the countryside looking for random innocents is a myth. Although there were obvious abuses they were looking for known law breakers just like they did in the old west. This does not condone lynching but neither is it fair to portray them as the historical and current press loves to do.

            The organizers of the Freedom Riders wanted publicity and knew full well they were riding into the belly of the beast. They knew that the useful idiots along for the ride would be exposed to mortal danger and they didn’t care as long as it furthered their agenda.

          • Bon, From the Land of Babble

            But the media do.

            From the AR archives, 2005, “Selma to Montgomery, 30 Years Later:”

            “The national press was warmly sympathetic to black demonstrators and their white supporters. The movement basked in an aura of great moral superiority.

            Eighteen officers were injured by flying rocks and bottles…but according to press accounts, the police had ‘whipped and clubbed’ unoffending demonstrators, and television pictures showed crowds of fleeing blacks choking on tear gas…Montgomery Chief of Police Drue Lackey explained what it was like to be on the receiving end of those ‘nonviolent’ bottles and bricks, the spittle and invective hurled at his cops…of MLK and his minions trying to provoke his well-disciplined men into overreacting.”

            Many of the journalists were disgusted by what they saw, and complained that candid accounts of the demonstrators’ behavior were edited out of the stories they filed.

            Disgusted journalists noted that a number of young couples at the rear of the crowd fornicated during the services.

            On at least one occasion, police officers prevented newspapermen from photographing the revelry.

            It was widely – and falsely – reported that not a single United States flag flew in Montgomery that day.

            [S]everal newspapermen who were allowed to go to the rear of the demonstration came back up to the front and told us they observed white and Negro couples in the act of sexual relations. They told us that they had sent the story and pictures home to their papers. One told me that the only thing he recognized about his story when it was printed was his name.

            Now, why on earth do you think the national media portrayed the marchers — many of whom were bused in and PAID with food, drugs and sex — as peaceful, moral heroes of unspeakable White violence– while censoring the marchers own violence, debauchery and moral depravity?

            http://www.amren.com/ar/1995/05/index.html

            Bon

    • I gave you an up vote, which is something I rarely do.
      The general trend in the Occidental first world in recent decades is that tumult results in a growing and more powerful government or state, and almost always animated by a liberal-left ideology.

      • Interested Party

        That is only for relatively prosperous nations. In the 1960s, America’s best days were still ahead of it. Not any more. Greece is a good counter example to your argument. So is Europe during the 1930s. I cannot believe anyone can really think that working within the same corrupt system that dispossessed them is really going to do anything.

        • Sherman_McCoy

          One needn’t use violence to work outside the corrupt system. But one should be ready to defend oneself and love ones.

  • WhiteKnight

    I will be honest about whites rebelling. Too many whites talk the talk, but they don’t walk the walk. Many whites do not want to lose their jobs or their government benefits. This is the reason that there has not been an armed rebellion. As long as whites have jobs and government benefits, they will continue to be asleep and preoccupied by things such as gay marriage and NFL football. Whites have become too complacent in America.

    • Sherman_McCoy

      Bread and circuses, WK. Bread and circuses.

  • J. Rockwell

    The grim realist in me believes that this is part of the plan. The powers that be (TPTB) know that they are eventually going to have to deal with the heavily armed White Christian non-urban demographic who vehemently oppose what they are doing to this country (and the West as a whole). It’s clear that Bible-believing armed whites are the only real obstacle standing between them and their sick vision of a multicultural genderless socialist America where they are the central planning elite controlling the lives of an amorphous black and brown populace that doesn’t have the intelligence to question their masters.

    It’s also clear that those same Bible-believing armed whites, despite all their firearms and food storage, do not stand a chance against the federal government. If they try to resist TPTB they will be swiftly Waco-ed x100 in this age of drones and GPS weaponry (all operated by low-ranking white traitors of course).

    IMO, TPTB know that time is now of the essence because of the rapid rate at which Whites in America are waking up to the fact that they are frogs being slowly boiled alive. The internet sped up the process exponentially; voices like Alex Jones are now borderline-mainstream.

    Nothing would serve TPTB’s agenda like an excuse to take up arms against their White survivalist arch-enemies and finally remove the last stumbling block to their plan for an America free of “hate.”

    • Whites in America are “waking up” because they’re listening to a race denier like Alex Jones? I’d really believe they were waking up if we/they were listening to James Edwards.

      I think you’re on to something in thinking that this article about how “popular” armed rebellion is “becoming” is an establishment trap, not only to provoke us into doing something foolish so they can squish us like bugs, but also to help Morris Dees raise money.

    • Bon, From the Land of Babble

      What Good Can a Handgun do Against an Army?

      “If/when our Federal Government comes to pilfer, pillage, plunder our property and destroy our lives, what good can a handgun do against an army with advanced weaponry, tanks, missiles, planes, or whatever else they might have at their disposal to achieve their nefarious goals?”

      http://billstclair.com/blog/stories/handgun.html

      • Mr Plankton

        That was a very interesting article. Thank you for sharing.

      • What can a handgun do against an army?

        Shoot a soldier in the back of his head so you can take his rifle.

        • Bon, From the Land of Babble

          Yes.

          Exactly!!

          Puts to rest all of those arguments that we should just give up and die — which I’m seeing all over this thread – because we have NO chance against the mighty government’s (multicultural, emasculated) army!!

          This little gun was used during WW II and was created EXPRESSLY for the purpose of shooting a guard at close range so you could steal his machine gun, or whatever else he may have been guarding.

          The FP-45 Liberator was a pistol manufactured for the United States military during World War II for use by resistance forces in occupied territories. It was designed with the idea of offering an enemy soldier a cigarette, putting a round of .45 ACP twixt his eyes or in the base of his skull, and ‘liberating’ the now deceased soldier’s rifle, SMG, grenades, or anything else of military utility. A crude and clumsy weapon, the Liberator was never intended for front line service. It was originally intended as an insurgency weapon to be mass dropped behind enemy lines to resistance fighters in occupied territory.

          The weapon was valued as much for its psychological warfare effect as its actual field performance. It was believed that if vast quantities of these weapons could be delivered into Axis occupied territory, it would have a devastating effect on the morale of occupying troops. The plan was to drop the weapon in such great quantities that occupying forces could never capture or recover all the weapons. It was hoped that the thought of thousands of these unrecovered weapons potentially in the hands of the citizens of occupied countries would have a deleterious effect on enemy morale.

          The pistol had its origins in the US Army Joint Psychological Committee and was designed for the United States Army in 1942 by the Inland Guide Lamp Manufacturing Division of the General Motors Corporation in Dayton, Ohio. The army designated the weapon the Flare Projector Caliber .45 hence the designation FP-45. This was done to disguise the fact that a pistol was being mass produced.

          The original engineering drawings label the barrel as ‘tube’, the trigger as ‘yoke’, the firing pin as ‘control rod’, and the trigger guard as ‘spanner.’ The Guide Lamp Division plant in Anderson, Indiana assembled a million of these weapons. The Liberator project took about 6 months from conception to end of production with about 11 weeks of actual manufacturing time, done by 300 workers. The FP-45 was a crude, single-shot pistol designed to be cheaply and quickly mass produced. The ejection system was a wooden rod that was pushed down the barrel from the muzzle end to eject the fired cartridge case. The Liberator had just 23 largely stamped and turned steel parts that were cheap and easy to manufacture. It fired a .45 caliber pistol cartridge from an unrifled barrel. Due to the unrifled barrel, maximum effective range was only about 25 feet (less than 8 m). At longer range, the bullet would begin to tumble.

          As those who fought in Viet Nam learned: “You’d see a small child in a village, maybe 5 years old holding a Coke can, approach a G.I. and all of a sudden … boom! And that was that.”

          The mighty US military is NOT invincible.

          Bon

          • I haven’t recently said “I love you, Bon”, but I do, all over again.

            If I’d been designing the “Liberator” pistol, I’d have made it in 12-gauge. It turns out that 3/4 inch pipe will accept 12-gauge shells.

            Kill all the Communists.

  • PesachPatriot

    Its interesting to note that people all across the political spectrum are openly discussing the idea of armed rebellion. It might not be the best solution to america’s numerous problems, the french and russians found out the hard way that revolutions sometimes cause more problems than they solve….it would also instantly crash the still fragile economy and probably that of canada and some european countries too as millions of panicky foreign investors would start slamming the sell buttons on their computers. A lot of people like to talk big over the internet and play keyboard rambo, very few are willing to live in tents in the woods and fight like afghans or iraqis as long as there is still electricity, cold beer and food in the grocery store and sports on TV.

    • NYB

      Take a guess at where we would be right now without the Fed shoveling $85 billion a month into bread and circus’s.

      Not only does this stimulus prop up America, but the whole world.

      • PesachPatriot

        I’d guess that without the magical money printing machine we’d probably be in some sort of dystopian nightmare world kind of like the terminator or robocop movies. Detroit would look like damascus and boston would look like baghdad. I would assume there wouldn’t be much in the way of democratic representative government left either…no more senators or congressmen, just warlords ruling over small fiefdoms around the north american continent. This is why I am thankful every day that most people on this planet and in this country are very bad at math.

        • Sherman_McCoy

          I say bring it on. The sooner this whole corrupt system collapses, the sooner we can start to clean house. You’re a bright guy, PP, and you know that whether we want it or not, it is coming. Better to prepare as best one can, and high tail it out to the white territories.

          • PesachPatriot

            I always try to be careful what I wish for because it just might happen…the roman empire stagnated and decayed for centuries before the barbarians finally destroyed it….so did the austro-hungarian, spanish, czarist and ottoman empires….everyone on this board could be dead and buried in the next 50-60 years and the bread and circuses could still be in full swing. I am not particularly eager to play zombie apocalypse survival video games in real life….there is still much that is good and decent left that is worth preserving in america and I’m more interested in that then a collapse of civilization(beyond the point to which it has already failed).

    • rightrightright

      If such a rebellion occurs, army trained troops and ex troops will be part of it. I find this

      http://www.freepatriot.org/2013/05/01/breaking-obama-criminalizes-christianity-in-the-military/

      more than worrying.

      • Bon, From the Land of Babble

        Saw that yesterday:

        From your link:

        Obama Administration Criminalizes Christianity in the Military

        This statement follows a recent meeting between Pentagon officials and fanatical anti-Christian activist Mikey Weinstein, who helped design the new punishments for Christians who dare to commit the hate crime of sharing their faith with others.

        Weinstein is the head of the Military Religious Freedom Foundation, and says Christians–including chaplains–sharing the gospel of Jesus Christ in the military are guilty of ‘treason,’ and of committing an act of ‘spiritual rape’ as serious a crime as ‘sexual assault.’ He also asserted that Christians sharing their faith in the military are ‘enemies of the Constitution.’

        Why are you surprised?

        Bon

        • BonusGift

          A ‘fanatical anti-Christian activist” named Weinstein? I wonder what tribe he belongs to?

          • IstvanIN

            And the powers that be say they aren’t plotting our destruction.

          • Interested Party

            …and you’re not even allowed to talk about it on a supposedly race realist website. That’s why activism and “waking up whites” will never work. The opposition is THAT powerful.

          • Katherine McChesney

            Google for an interview with Weinstein. He has a good argument considering the Evangelicals have cursed at his family, made threatening phone calls to him in the night, called his son a “Jesus Killer” and have bullied cadets into bringing the unsaved to so-called ‘Christian rallies.’ This occurred in Colorado at a military base. It was probably Focus on the Family, an Evangelical group.

          • Ingsoc

            yeah, right.

            No chance of Weinstein lying then is there? His word is “gospel”, is that right?

            Anyone else reported that Focus on the Family harassed them with phone calls in the middle of the night, called their son a “jesus killer.”
            Have you ever heard anyone called a “jesus killer?” I haven’t.

            His contention is beyond ridiculous, but the press will treat it as unquestioned truth.

          • BonusGift

            So if a similar thing happens to a person in, for example, Israel (say a Christian or Muslim) then they should be allowed to root out the Jewish proselytizers from those forces and pass insane and raconian regulations disallowing any overt religious comments for just that one religion based on the word of a liar? If the imagined slight of one person who hates America is all that it takes to subvert that military and attack a religion they obviously hate, and someone on this website in a kneejerk fashion comes to their defense, then we surely are toast as a nation.

          • Cherry Bomb

            Well, then, it’s just easier if we’re eliminated because any perceived insult no matter how minute means a rise of the Fourth Reich in their eyes. Jews are perpetual victims of whites whose only desire is to resurrect Hitler don’t you know.

          • NormanF

            The sad and simple truth is that the overwhelming majority of Jews in the US literally hate Christianity. The hatred even reaches the level of irrationality. That is simple fact plain to see. However, at 2% of the population and residing in an ocean of Christians, they have to sway large numbers of Gentile Whites to do their bidding, form alliances with Blacks, promote Atheism, and so on.

            I am convinced that sooner or later Christians will lose their reverence for Jews and turn against them for obvious reasons.

          • And you actually believe that. Focus on the Family = Pro-Israel, “Standing With Israel.” First, I think the underroo-clad loser made it up, (left types always make these kinds of things up), and second, even if it did happen to him, it certainly wouldn’t be FOTF.

          • Sherman_McCoy

            Er, poppycock. Same sort of nonsense has been spewed from the very beginning. Sanhedrin to the tomb guards, “Here you go guys, take this cash and just tell everyone that His Body was stolen by His disciples.”

            Now, if Weinstein’s family has been vomiting out similar vitriol for years, I can well imagine a phone call in the night.

        • PesachPatriot

          This weinstein guy sounds like a real piece of work….most people who sign up for the military in an era or country tend to already have their choice of deity and afterlife picked out, but I hardly think being given a pamphlet about the new testament or being invited to attend someone’s church is the same thing as sexual assault. If a person doesn’t want to be proselytized at a polite no thank you usually works just fine in my experience….

          • Puggg

            Bah. I figure this Weinstein and his foundation to be nothing more than something he runs from his iPad while clad only in his underwear from his parents’ basement.

          • PesachPatriot

            LOL….its kind of a long standing joke among the judeo-american community that weinsteins tend to be the worst whiners among us…i’m sure his ancestors were bitching and complaining to moses for forty years straight about how dry the air in the sinai was and that sand, scorpions and rocks kept getting in their robes and sandals. Its stuff like this that makes me prefer the company of israelis when I hang out with my own kind.

            I don’t understand this fear of christianity…sure I like lots of blasphemous heavy metal music but I’m not worried about jerry falwell, fred phelps or pat robertson ever getting any sort of real political power in this country.I’m far more concerned about what the religion of peace is doing in Jersey City or Dear Born than by the jacksonville pastor who burned a koran a few years ago. Even many conservative, rightwing types in america who post on this board and others don’t want churches handling political, military and economic matters. Stuff like this is just small and petty and reflects more poorly on him than the people he opposes.

          • David Ashton

            We need to sort out the patriotic wheat from the cosmopolitan chaff among both Jews and White Gentiles.

          • Falwell is dead, Phelps is a kook, and the best Pat Robertson ever did was 2nd place in the Iowa Republican Primary in 1988. Falwell was and Robertson is a Stand-With-Israel type. People who worry(ied) about Falwell and Robertson and conflate Phelps with them are obviously packing a kook left agenda.

            The university Falwell founded, the incorrectly named “Liberty” University, has more repressive anti-white race speech prohibitions than any ten public universities combined.

          • That might be true, but it’s not so much Weinstein that worries me, it’s the fact that the overglorified teleprompter reader that calls itself President and more importantly for the matter at hand, Commander-in-Chief, pays said underroo-clad loser so much attention.

          • QuinnTheEskimo9

            Looks like this Weinstein is more than a keyboard warrior. If he’s what I think he is, he’s got the power of the ADL behind him.

            Keyboard warriors running their mouths from iPads in their parents’ basements do not meet with Pentagon officials.

            Don’t underestimate this guy and who’s behind him and funding him. Notice also he gets to design the punishment for Christians.

            Not very “tolerant” now is he? Although he’ll defend the rights of Moslems in the military to pray to their leader Obama 5 X/day.

    • Bon, From the Land of Babble

      What happens when there IS no electricity? Food riots clear grocery store shelves? The water taps don’t work? Supply trucks can’t get through or refuse to travel? When our currency is utterly worthless?

      There is a direct connection between debauching of the currency and the moral and social breakdown of society. When people are forced into impoverishment by devaluation and depreciation of their money, not only they will be impoverished, but they are headed for social and moral breakdown and finally internal war and revolution.

      What the American people don’t understand is that when the Federal Reserve creates trillions of dollars that it calls “quantitative easing,” it does two things. No. 1: It dilutes the currency, thereby reducing the value of all currency in circulation. No. 2: It is transferring wealth to the government away from all dollar holders.

      This is stealth or silent warfare against the American people. This is serious because it leads to impoverishment of the middle class and finally to complete economic collapse.

      –Bob Livingston

      After that, what choice will we have?

      Maybe those “preppers” aren’t as crazy as the government and media make them out to be.

      Bon

      • PesachPatriot

        I thought the preppers were pretty smart right from the get-go….i try to do what I can, as i can afford it but its hard when to think in such gloomy terms when you have a small child to raise….i try and force myself to be hopeful for her sake, but it gets harder each day.Prepping is a good idea because you save money buy buying food in bulk and rotating stock as you eat anyway. My mom thinks I’m nuts for thinking in survivalist terms…she says “do you really plan on surviving nuclear armageddon?” obviously not, but riots, currency collapses, terrorist attacks and hurricanes do happen pretty frequently and those things can be prepped for and survived. The one failing of the show is that the people on it have exposed themselves and their goodies on national television.

    • Of course you are right. That said, lots of wars were fought even when saner heads said they would never happen.

      Kill all the Communists.

      • PesachPatriot

        Being right about this sort of thing is sort of unnerving….you are right about a lot of wars starting over small things when saner heads really had no interest in them…I recall watching a special on WWI a few years ago and in 1910 some reporter from the new york times was interviewing the british foreign minister and asked what europe’s next major conflict would start over….the foreign minister replied “probably over some damn fool thing in the balkans”.

        At the end of the show they showed a picture of Gavril Princip’s house, which had been destroyed in the 1990’s balkan conflict….It bummed me out that within the same century the home of the man who started a globally devastating international conflict was destroyed in another stupid pointless conflict that america got itself involved in. The only thing that I have learned from a lifetime of studying history is that no one learns anything from the study of history…and eventually everyone, both good and bad is forgotten as their biographies gather dust because no one reads anymore.

  • So your moderators delete a one word comment I make that said Revolution, but then go on to link to an article that says more than a quarter of citizens believe armed rebellion will soon be necessary?

  • Dave4088

    It’s positive that a growing number of people consider armed rebellion as a possibility. Personally, I think the USSA may collapse similar to the USSR. Nobody knows, but this racial freak show, this Weimar Democracy on steroids has to reach the end of its tether sometime very soon for the sake of our racial survival.

  • Joe Mack

    Well, the majority of people believe that jet fuel can melt steel and cause a 110 story building to fall at free fall speed and eject steel and concrete at 150 miles per hour laterally just due to gravity.

    So I don’t have a lot of faith in the level of independent thinking among those planning a revolution.

    Most Americans have no idea that the Federal Reserve is private, and profits from creating recessions. Most Americans don’t know anything about the Rothschild family, or the fact that 70% of Obama’s advisors are jewish.

    How can we ever win if we don’t even know what or who we are fighting. And any honest discussion is impossible due to the ethnic makeup of the people actively doing this to the American people.

  • Bon, From the Land of Babble

    Armed rebellion? I see no other outcome as Whites are increasingly stripped of their rights, wealth and homeland — and face being lorded over by hostile non-Whites with grudges against the White race.

    Wait until the amnesty bill passes and forty million non-White, uneducated, low IQd, Third world immigrants flood into the U.S. in the next 10 years — all of whom will demand public services like welfare, obamacare and education, AND, the vast majority will pay no federal income taxes.

    The bill allows these “new Amerikans” to start daisy chain immigration to bring in their family members, including elderly parents who will need health care. This will significantly speed up the coming minority status of White Americans.

    It also means a massive tax burden on White Americans to support their own displacement population.

    How could anyone say this is NOT White genocide?

    You know, If I hated a race, I’d promote flooding all of their homeland with millions upon millions of destitute, violence-prone, uneducate people not of their race and tell them to “celebrate diversity” — and that not doing so is racist and hateful. If anyone objected I’d label them “racist” and try to get them fired from their jobs.

    But I am not doing this.

    Anti-Whites are doing this to White people in all White countries.

    Bon

    • Bobby

      Great comment Bon. I think many European-Americans would have no trouble believing most of your statements but the one that I have noticed most whites simply can’t latch onto as a reality, is your first sentence and how there is a huge grudge by millions of non-whites against the white race. Sure, there are friendly people towards whites who aren’t white. The problem is that it’s the opposite case for so many non-whites, because the leftist media in the U.S., the democrat party, ethnic power groups and some of the very nations these non-white folks come from, have so utterly brainwashed them towards whites, in a way that is totally vile. I can’t see a positive outcome from any of this.

      • I think Whites have to experience strong violence & dispossession as *the* necessary preclude to anything radical. Liberal ideology must go, but it will not be “defeated” in a debate club: the reality will make it obsolete & simply a lie. I’m sympathetic to all your efforts to go back to good ole democratic White days of 18th & 19th century, but I’d say the liberation can happen only through something dictatorial, radical & openly racial-exclusivist.

        • Ingsoc

          At this point, we’re not longing to go back to the “good ole 18 and 19th centuries”. We are fighting to keep a homeland for our people and for our very right to exist.

    • jackryanvb

      If you feel this way consider working with the northwestfront to form a break away White republic in the Pacific Northwest

      Www dot Northwestfront dot org

  • Twerking video with White High School students. Guess who’s presiding over the degeneracy?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HvD5_T7aUCk

    http://tinyurl.com/c8j4k2u

  • Twerking video with White High School students. Guess who’s presiding over the
    degeneracy?

    http://tinyurl.com/cww9ke8

    http://tinyurl.com/c8j4k2u

  • Bobby

    Armed rebellion?? Please, most Americans cannot even work up the energy to raise enough hell, to get rid of the politicians that denigrate them on a daily basis. I’m don’t see any, ANY, of the GANG OF EIGHT, shaking in their boots, while they are planning OPENLY to initiate a plan that will totally transform the U.S. in the most damaging way imaginable–namely to team up with one of the most corrupt nations on the entire earth. Armed rebelliion!!………….LOL…..

    • Not so. History has shown that when a mass of people are disaffected (and Whites in the US are, just read comments section when some touchy issue pops up- and I’m talking about MSM, not sites like AmRen), then revolutionary changes inevitably follow on the smallest instigation. Remember: all self-destructive ideologies, whichever their time of dominance over minds & hearts of the true people of the land, eventually expire or sizzle out. Hispanics, Blacks, Asians…all know they’re just a bunch of parasitic foreigners without a reliable glue of solidarity, and when things fall apart, they’re history. Lincoln was right- you can’t deceive all the people all the time.

      • Bobby

        Well, “time will tell”. But I’m not certain about the reliability of historical precedence as being an accurate guide to what will happen in the future. Modern first world governments are so sophisticated at controling a populace, (and the U.S. is the best at it) that they often know the key to stopping things before they get out of control. My guess is that the U.S. elite will simply give the population enough bread and circuses, to keep them happy and lingering in a state of minimum satisfaction for quite a few years more. Although I agree with much of what you say about how parasitic foreigners, especially new arrivals who immediately are allowed to go on welfare, etc., view themselves vis a vis European Americans. I’ve observed their puzzled state on trying to figure out what their position actually is here.

        • You’re overestimating them (plutocratic manipulators). Take Iraq war, for instance. Both US and major oil & gas companies simply lost- nothing of undreamed of profits, just big spending & more US debt. This was a major strategic blunder, something of epic proportions. In short- don’t underestimate, but also don’t overestimate the enemy.

          • QuinnTheEskimo9

            It was not a strategic blunder. The supposed “war” in Iraq was designed to completely destabilize the Iraqi government and send it into a state of civil war and anarchy. In that respect, it worked perfectly considering that Iraq is made up of a number of warring tribes who will never agree to peace until the other is annihilated.
            If they’re fighting each other, they won’t lob missiles or bombs at Israel.
            I’d say mission accomplished.

          • robin

            the media have their evil hand in that too

      • jackryanvb

        If you feel this way, please work with the Northwestfront

        Www dot Northwestfront dot org

  • frederickdixon

    From all that I read here on Amren and elsewhere, all you really need is a prominent and capable mainstream politician to say:- 1/ no amnesty, 2/ no more immigration, 3/ no more affirmative action, 4/ no more foreign wars. Or failing a mainstream politician with the necessary guts, a new movement with a charismatic leader.
    That, or its equivalent, is now happening in many European countries and the electorates respond with enthusiasm, the most recent example being the stunning results for UKIP in Thursday’s elections in England. The public mood has turned sharply to the Right, if the same is true in the US you won’t need an armed rebellion.

  • amerikwa & america

    America was created with armed revolution wasnt it? Lincoln attacked a peaceful nation with his 2 million armed soldiers and killed a million putting a bad marriage back together at the point of a gun didnt he? Way past time to split again and no idiot slave issue for the whiners. Red and Blue coming..

    • WE MUST FIRST FORM A LAWFUL PROVISIONAL GOVERNMENT TO MAKE LAWS AND REGULATIONS

      Get candidates elected to a new second Continental Congress this November. There is enough time to get them on the November ballot. Stop the talk and start doing something.

  • Who are the moderators that keep deleting comments?

    • anarchyst

      Amren moderator “rules” are such that those of the “tribe” are not to be criticized for their behavior. It is indeed sad that the TRUTH is muzzled on an otherwise fine forum.
      Moderators?? What say you??

      • As shocking as this may be, I’ve mentioned nothing about the J-people or the Z-word, but still have comments pruned and deleted. There’s no way that’s a man moderating this stuff. That’s estrogen-filled rationale and sensibilities without a doubt.

  • anarchyst

    The question has been raised about whites’ apathetic behavior in these times. It is not apathy, but the fact that most whites WORK, take care of their families and have little time for “protests” and other activities.
    Whites are slow to act (and react) but when we do, LOOK OUT!

    • I think I’ve come to realize that it’s not so much a given that White people as a whole are too apathetic and slow to react. Yes, we are a little too much of those than what we should be. But there’s a really good reason these kind of articles get so much participation, not just here, but all across the Internet.

      The reason isn’t because White people want to ridicule other White people for feeling anger and resentment, and it’s not to push them into another state of serfdom where we passively accept whatever fate someone else decides for us.

      No, the reason these types of articles get so much participation is because White people actually want active resistance instead of passive annihilation. Most of them are just too afraid to say it out loud. Even the ones who still say that we can peacefully negotiate terms with the anti-White crowd don’t actually believe that. They just want to impress some media pundit or paid stooge who might happen to see them comment. They are actively trying to get recognition as some peaceful, reasonable and intelligent critical thinker. They actively pursue this agenda by being totally passive when it comes to speaking boldly and candidly about the preservation and protection of White People. These passive aggressive types are vapid poison who suck the energy out of true revolutionaries and the revolutionary spirit, and they almost never do anything to inspire people to action. In fact, they are generally the ones inspiring people to do less in terms of being vocal and physically active.

      Our problem is that we’ve had really bad leaders; We’ve had really bad spokesmen; We’ve had bad organizations and groups that were too easily associated with the sane and reasonable pro-White people; We even have bad moderators on websites that don’t understand human psychology.

      • NormanF
        • Kathy M

          The EDL leadership is insane. They are trying to fight Islam and ONLY Islam using leftist, diversity-is-our-strength, multiculturalist, techniques. The very SAME techniques that Islamofied Europe to begin with! They are not interested in preserving the ethnic English at all. They want a society where multiracialism rules. As they claim, “We are anti-racist. We have no concern about race.”

          • Their tactic is diversion and slight-of-hand manipulation. If someone doesn’t say they are a Race-ist, then you can assume they are anti-racist. If someone emphatically tells you that they are anti-racist, then you better lock up your valuables and be prepared for a world of lies, deceit, distortion, ridicule and attacks. Anti-racist as an ideology knows nothing else.

        • It sure isn’t. The undeniable truth is that if someone isn’t a Race-ist, then they are anti-Racist. Nothing is more “extremist” than a group or person that adheres to an ideology that denies the existence of distinct biological traits that separate the races.

          The EDL is an opportunistic front. Period! There’s probably not enough combined brain cells(or honesty/integrity) from the EDL spokesmen to rationally explain why, if Islam is ultimately the only real threat, the atrophy of Western civilization has been mostly proportional to the browning of those societies which are in decline. We don’t have a Muslim problem here as much as it is an overall black and brown problem. But, oddly enough, American society as well as most other White-majority nations decline proportionally with or without Islam being a significant factor. According to EDL minds, we should all be living peacefully and comfortably with all of our non-Muslim, black brothers and sisters in Detroit, Camden, Philly, Chicago, etc.

          • NormanF

            Well said! I try and try to get my Jewish friends to see this. A handful do. I wish more did. We are not the enemy. I am staunchly pro-White and pro-Israel. That may seem like a contradiction but it doesn’t have to be. Just sayin’.

          • It only becomes a contradiction when being pro-Israel demands that you be anti-[some other type of nationalist] just to further that pro-Israel agenda.

          • jackryanvb

            I think I met you at the Amren conference. There were a few nice sincere Jewish people there from New York. We shared NYC war stories from the 80s and 90s..

            My views on what to do on the Jewish issues could fill up ten books.

            I suggest being fair, practical and local. Try to find decent Jewish people to do most of the fighting against destructive Jewish people like the $ billionaires Zuckerman, Adelson pushing now for race replacement immigration to the USA.

          • PesachPatriot

            I don’t know too much about the EDL or its philosophies or political statements….I think the strident angry muslims demanding sharia law in the UK have made strange bedfellows of many different elements of british society. If this organization helps to keep the land of arthur, merlin, henry v, shakespeare, sir francis drake, JRR Tolkien and Winston Churchill from becoming an english speaking sharia state I think it is doing a good thing.

          • It is good in the same way that an all inclusive, multicultural America would be good if only everyone would just promise to keep a copy of the Constitution in their homes. All the illegal Mexicans and Ethiopian immigrants will be a blessing to our nation if only they swear that they will speak English and not follow Islam. That is essentially what they are saying.

            This lesser of two evils approach is why White people always lose ground. Even when we supposedly win it is nothing more than a compromise of sorts. Actually, it’s not even a compromise. A compromise takes two sides. Do you see anyone else really compromising? No. What you see are groups and races that have demands and selfish agendas, and they make no apologies for vocally and physically pursuing them.

            So, with that in mind, what White people and faux pro-White groups like the EDL are promoting is nothing more than terms of surrender. They surrendered in the past, they are surrendering now, and in all likelihood they will surrender until there is nothing but a brown glob of people calling itself English.

          • PesachPatriot

            I know the UK has different laws on speech than in the US so maybe the EDL is trying to deal with the immediate threat of Islamization of the UK while trying not to get itself in more trouble than it already has. I could see myself being a member if I lived there. I’m also pretty sure england, scotland, wales and n.ireland don’t have anywhere near the amount of blacks that the US has and they aren’t directly adjacent to Mexico. Anyone who immigrates to england legally or otherwise can only do so on a boat or airplane, they can’t hop a fence or swim a river.

        • UKIP is the same way.

          I listen to Nigel Farage, and I basically hear a typical American conservative Republican.

          Race denying lamestream conservatism will ultimately gets us back into the same pickle that race denying liberalism got us into. Except most liberals don’t deny race, they just embrace the wrong races.

  • anarchyst

    When the storm troopers attack, sure and swift reaction by whites will be necessary. IF we don’t “nip” the storm troopers’ actions “in the bud”, they will become emboldened. If whites react (as we should), it will be difficult for the enemy to even “recruit” for storm trooper jobs.
    There would have been no Russian communist victory if the people had attacked the storm troopers from the outset.

    • Epiminondas

      They couldn’t. They lacked weapons. Americans, on the other hand, are armed to the teeth.

    • Dogbone

      “There would have been no Russian communist victory if the people had attacked the storm troopers from the outset.”

      When the jewish Bolsheviks took over Russia they already had their people in key positions and knew who the leaders of any resistance would be. One of the first things they did was kill anyone they thought would be a problem. They also controlled most of the food, so large populations in the cities that didn’t grow their own food were at their mercy. There weren’t enough farmers to pose any problems, and because news was very slow (no radio or TV), the Bolsheviks already had control before most of the people knew what was happening. The Bolsheviks also couldn’t have done what they did without the help of Uncle Stupid and his band of idiots (taxpayers) who loved anyone that hated Germans.

      • Ingsoc

        It was called the Red Terror, and it was very effective.

        Later, after helping “Uncle Joe” the USG loved anyone who hated the Soviet Union, the same regime that the USG helped to create.

  • There is a more powerful force than armed resistance. Most truckers are ‘rednecks’ and conservative. They have massive power. If the truckers would stop all shipments of food, fuel and medicine to Washington DC, NYC and Chicago, the entire country would be forced to change to what the majority wants. If these three city’s find away around the embargo, then add Philadelphia and Boston to the list. Then LA and San Fran. Sooner or later, the populace in these city’s will demand change or go hungry in the cold. Historically speaking, hunger has a way of changing people’s minds.

  • anarchyst

    It’s time to “go Galt” and “starve the beast:”. If you have a business, offer a discount for cash, gold or silver. Barter with like-minded individuals and other businesses. As individuals, increase your “side jobs” and minimize what you “pay” in taxes. . . .

    • You should also network as much as possible within your region and locality. If you find good businesses and people offering services, then suggest them to other people. Grow your own food or find farmers and growers in your area to deal with. Have at least one firearm for every member in your family. Remove Hollywood and the “entertainment” world from your life. If you like to read, then double up on your reading. If you like to write, double up on your writing. If you have a trade or skills, then actively seek out other pro-White people who want to learn and teach them. Set goals and make it a point to move forward every day.

      • David Ashton

        Good advice which we should apply across the Pond.

        The collapse, engineered or accidental, of the global usury system will still leave north America with farmland, factories, computers and human intelligence, as warriors of the Old Left, Social Credit and Fascism pointed out long ago. A self-sufficient and self-financed giant autarky is possible for you, but not for the overpopulated, bankrupted British Isles where our economic resources have been destroyed or handed over to foreign ownership or control. So I admit to the “virtue of selfishness” in arguing for inter-national “white solidarity”!

    • David Ashton

      Bitcoin?

  • MBlanc46

    I’ve entertained this notion for longer than many of you have been alive, but I do question whether almost three out of ten voters now agree with me.

    • Opinion polls can be made to look men still believe that the earth is flat. It really comes down to what kind of questions are asked, whom you ask, and the way the questions are presented.

      Poll A) I ask how many people would be willing to fight a psychotic killer to the death.

      Poll B) I ask the exact same question, but ask it in such a way to where I know the person being polled will believe that it is a question that insinuates that he is the only thing standing between his own family and the psycho killer.

      That’s not so much an opinion poll as much as it is an obvious poll about common sense and predictability.

      • MBlanc46

        “Most polls done today by pseudo-scientists are actually done to sway public opinion, not gauge it.”

        Or to invent it.

  • jackryanvb

    For those who do want some revolution to take way some part of the corrupt United States, consider the Northwest migration.

    Www dot Northwestfront dot org

    And read “the Brigade” by HA Covington

    We’re not taking back the entire USA by armed violent revolution.

    • Guest

      If you are a part of it, no thank you. Looks like that movement has already been infiltrated by the likes of yourself.

  • Joe Mack

    We can’t even have an honest discussion about who is doing this to America on Amren without the post being deleted, so I don’t hold out much hope that any sort of armed rebellion would be anything but a waste of human life.

    • OBSERVER

      You are so correct. We can trash Blacks and Mexicans all we want and really insult them. But there is a truth existing which I fear or would wish unknown to the whole world (read the top of this blogs home).

  • Mariner33

    Perhaps that is the last station before absolute tyranny. However, the only way to reverse the momentum of the “graveyard spiral” of the American airplane is to cut off funds. For that to happen millions of the middle class would have to withhold Federal Income Tax payments. Certainly No Taxation Without Representation applies. America cannot exist on a one man one vote system. Singapore Prime Minister Lee Kwan Yew pointed this fault of democracy some years ago.

    • Bobbala

      The Bill of Rights was the individual’s defense against the mob. Today we traded individual liberty for group rights. If you’re not in the right group, you don’t have any rights.

      • Cherry Bomb

        It was the individual’s defense against the government.

        The founding fathers knew tyrants seek unlimited power over the people but fear an armed populace and wanted to keep the government small, limited and crippled. The founding father also feared a democracy, which is mob rule, so they created a republic.

        Their worst nightmares (and ours) are coming true.
        Ben Franklin said after the Constitutional Convention of 1787 that they’d created, “A Republic, if You can Keep it.”

    • RileyDeWiley

      If all tax collection stopped, money would be printed to cover the federal budget.

  • How much are moderators paid to pretend that they actually care about the interests of actual pro-White people?

  • Guest

    TT

  • LHathaway

    some might be democrats who have just had enough.

  • Garrett Brown

    I hope it comes soon so I can rescue the love of my life. Maybe then she’ll finally see how I feel about her.

  • Joe Mack

    So is it just random? Is America just accidentally disintegrating?

    Or is there a specific group of people who are benefiting with the cultural and economic chaos America now finds itself?

    • Luca

      I agree with your statistical post above. Some others here just don’t see it.

      • Beloved Comrade

        Some others here refuse to see it.
        Fear of having one’s career and reputation destroyed for one.

      • Joe Mack

        Amren deleted it, so you can’t see it.

        Even this website is infected with PC ideology.

    • Guest

      It has all been planned for a long time…..Is not random as most of us know.

  • AbdulKareemaWheat .

    How else can we regain the Constitutional rights that are enshrined in that document?

    I swear..if Arizona and Texas goes…I’m in. No more BS about “undocumented” POS that are allowed to change our laws. No more “Student” visas. All of them..OUT…I mean OUT.

    That’s how we take the country back from the Chechnayns, Mexi scum that…if it was the 1940’s…they’d be shot while invading. And shot by a demrat POTUS too called FDR who didn’t hesitate to lock them up or execute the traitors.

  • WR_the_realist

    There is very little left of the Constitution that is actually followed. The 4th Amendment died with the Patriot Act, the TSA, and the NSA. (When the NSA was exposed as having spied on American citizens’ internet traffic en masse without search warrants, congress acted not by throwing the director of the NSA in prison but by retroactively making the spying legal.) The 1st amendment is under attack by the cultural Marxists. The Democrats have long loathed the 2nd Amendment. The 9th and 10th amendments have been dead letters for decades. And that’s just the Bill of Rights. Large parts of the main body of the Constitution are not followed either. The very notion that congress is limited to its explicitly enumerated powers was thrown out many decades ago, now congressmen assume they can make any law they damn well please, and usually they get away with it. The one man in congress who actually wants to uphold the Constitution has retired and was demonized by the media as being a racist and a nut in his last two presidential runs.

    And we have the $PLC labeling as dangerous anyone who wants the Constitution to be followed.

    So, I’m with the 29% in that I have reluctantly come to the conclusion that armed rebellion might become necessary in my lifetime. Our country has long been sliding into a kind of soft totalitarianism, which could easily morph into the hard kind. Armed conflict is certainly not something I look forward to. I’m not one of those guys who likes to tromp around in the woods in camo gear playing soldier. And most of the issues I’ve mentioned have nothing to do with race — most of the constitution shredding has been done by white guys. Not that I have any illusions that black politicians are any more interested in upholding the Constitution.

    • jackryanvb

      And Zimbabwe Rhodesia supposedly had a good constitution that was supposed to protect the rights of the White citizens and ensure that Zimbabwe remained a safe, prosperous place. Lot of good that Constitution did for Whites there.

      White people generally put way to much faith in Constitutions.

      • Table_View

        So you think the raping, pillaging and land grabbing they did while in power wasn’t going to bite them in the ass, did you?

      • WR_the_realist

        No constitution is self enforcing. For a constitution to work the public, the judges, and the politicians must know what is in it and there must be a widespread agreement that it be upheld. That has long since ceased to be the case in the United States. As for Zimbabwe, I doubt that the great mass of the populace ever knew what was in their constitution, and wouldn’t have cared about upholding it if they had.

    • Guest

      most of the constitution shredding has been done by white guys.

      —————————————-

      That is where you are wrong…..those “white” guys you speak of is the typical response from those like yourself. Most of the shredding has been done by that certain group of people you won’t mention, just lump them in as “white” guys is the name of your game.

      • WR_the_realist

        We always get this sort of response from the stormfront crowd. George W. Bush isn’t Jewish. Neither is Dick Cheney. Neither is Obama. The Jews in congress and the White House are no more likely to uphold the Constitution than the other white guys are, but they are far from being the sole or even the major source of the problem. Who would have upheld the Constitution as rigorously as Ron Paul, had he ever been elected to congress? The late Aaron Russo, a Jew.

  • The DHS just bought millions of rounds of ammo just by chance……..

  • liberals are twisted

    Make that real native Americans or European Americans are restless. Asian migrants “indians” who crossed the Bering land bridge were never native and never Americans. Just a bunch of savage mongoloid race pagan cannibals who practiced bestiality.

  • Joe Mack

    This board is more heavily moderated than CNN. I don’t get it.

    Let the good ideas survive, and the bad ones will fall under their own weight.

    But deleting so many posts will just kill the board.

    • Sad, but true. Just keep a record of your comments and what they delete and prune. It’ll all come out in the wash.

  • Joe Mack

    Jews are 71% of Obama’s advisors, 67% of Federal Reserve Board governors, 78% of Goldman Sachs execs, 69% of Treasury Dept senior officials.

    Jews are 40% of US Senate chairs, 83% of Ivy League admins, 44% of supreme court justicies, 75% of AIG directors.

    Jews are 83% of Hollywood execs, 36% of Defense Dept senior officials, 72% of major sport league execs.

    Jews are 72% of Wall St senior execs, 75% of media senior execs, 89% of TV senior execs, and 70% of radio senior execs.

    Jews are approximately 2% of the U.S. population.

    Source: thezog.wordpress.com

    This post likely won’t survive long on this website though.

    • gemjunior

      No matter how much this information is suppressed, the truth will always come out. I just cannot believe how strong the evidence, yet people continue to stay silent on it out of fear.

    • jackryanvb

      This comment violates Amren’s clear policy prohibiting open anti-Semitic Jew hatred, Jew scape gloating.

      We need to find some effective people, organizations that are on our side. It’s not just this one ethnic group that is against us.

      • Beloved Comrade

        1. Is what he wrote incorrect. No.

        2. I checked and didn’t see any “clear policy” prohibiting telling the truth about Jews or any other ethnic group that works against the white race.

        3. Why do you want to stifle the truth? Give reasons why we should not be allowed to discuss Jewish hegemony against white America.

        4. Pointing out the truth is not anti-Semitic hatred.

        You’re another one that needs to read Culture of Critique from cover to cover.

        • jackryanvb

          American Renaissance has always had a very strict policy prohibiting open, anti Semitic Jew hatred. It’s the same with Amren’s strict dress code.

          So don’t show up at an Amren event in a dirty T- shirt, spitting tobacco juice, farting and going on long rants about how much you HATE THE Jews, want kill Jews, Communists, Liberals, queers, Catholics, Mormons, everyone in “da gubamint”

          American Renaissance is an “Uptown”, high class racial realist publication.

          • Beloved Comrade

            I defy you to give examples of “anti-Semitic” Jew hatred on this thread or any post that calls for the killing of Jews or Communists.

            I defy you to point out exactly where Joe Mack’s post is wrong.

            I also asked you to point out AR’s “clearly stated” policy specifically prohibiting “anti-Semitic” hatred, but you couldn’t.

            Instead, you call for censorship like a typical lefty who has no argument.

            You don’t like what we’re posting and call for censorship because you can’t refute one word of Joe Mack’s post.

            Telling the truth is not anti-Semitic hatred and no one here posting and if you’d like to debate, I’m all ready.

            Your true colors are on display for all to see.

            You are calling for censorship of discussion because you have no argument or rebuttal.

          • Yes, but we can hate commies all week long and twice on Thursdays.

          • Joe Mack

            Communism is jewish ideology written by a jewish intellectual…

            I wonder if this comment will survive the censor lol.

          • You’re real “uptown,” aren’t you Jack?

          • Guest

            Guess truth is now called hatred when it comes to a certain select group of people? Your posts sure aren’t “Uptown”. What you call “hate”, I call censorship of truths.

            EVERY racial group should be included for their obvious WHITE hatred. If the shoe fits…..

            Isn’t it odd that it is ONLY the Jews that no one can criticize in this country? That should tell us all something about who really runs America, don’t you think?

        • Joe Mack

          What I wrote was easily verified by the link I provided – all those stats are easily verified through public websites and google searches.

          But the truth is now ‘racist’, and is too politically incorrect for even a website like Amren which is my point.

          I don’t hold out much hope if the truth cannot be discussed openly. The self censorship due to the brainwashing ideology of PC prevents even Amren from functioning in an effective way.

          So even if there was an armed revolution, how effective really would it be?

      • I don’t really consider myself anti-Semitic, and I don’t see how a fact is open hatred. Does me pointing out that sunburns seem to happen more when it’s daytime and the sun is shining make me hate the sun?

      • Guest

        You must be Jewish. No?

        • jackryanvb

          No.

      • Joe Mack

        Nothing in my post indicated a hatred for jews. Nothing.

        But you took it as such, and so did Amren.

        If 100% of the USA national news media was controlled by the Chinese, would pointing out this simple fact make me racist against the Chinese?

        Or would it be useful in indicating a reason WHY the media wasn’t acting in the interest of the country in which it exists?

        If you ask people on the left, they don’t like the media. They think it is biased. If you ask people on the right they don’t like the media and also think it is biased.

        How can the media be biased against everyone at the same time? (or at least 98% of the population…)

        • jackryanvb

          The cursed MSM mainstream media is not 100% Jewish. It’s very Jewish, but there are lots and lots of terrible anti White Gentiles in the US Media Ken Burns, Joe Scarborough, Chris Mathews. I agree J domination of our media is a problem but how to improve the situation? Running around ranting and raving about THE JOoooooz. That doesn’t work.

          • So you admit there is a problem, but just can’t figure out how to remedy the problem. Then you take what was essentially a comment that stated absolutely nothing but facts and equate that to someone ranting and raving about “THE JOoooooz.”

            Anti-Jewish sentiments are given a shot of adrenaline by people like you, not the person you are responding to. You can’t even mention a very important and undeniable truth in your world without being accused of being a lunatic or adhering to some anti-Semitic rhetoric.

    • StillModerated

      And pretty much all of the pornographers.

  • Nate Miller

    I never got the 18% demo-rats…what are they doing here?

  • Morris LeChat

    What this story is really about is the “grass roots” nature of a coming avalanche of change. Twenty six percent today, will be 66 percent tomorrow once that twenty six percent starts agitating and flexing their muscles. Many people are too timid to voice a real opinion. They play it safe even with pollsters. You would be surprised what the number REALLY are.

  • ninomangioni

    black mob attacks and muslim bombings from the black muslim president you elected…how you whites like you hope and change? whites voted for this…

  • I won a bet with my wife that this thread would pass 400 posts without my contributions, and it is now closing in on 500.

    I know what the communists have done to abuse our country and many others, but you must be more organized if you’re going to successfully do anything about it. Yes, we are close to the end game, and yes, we get to kill all the communists.

    Most of you would rightly want a return to our original – legitimate – United States government. I do.

    Calm down and quit griping.

    Learn to handload your empty brass. I will provide load data if you email me. Save empty 1.75 liter jugs. Most of the tops on these interchange, and their weight (1.75 kg) makes them easily portable. Save a few pairs of clean, dry socks in heat-sealed plastic bags.

    If you really want to do this, I will be with you, but I believe most of us will be KIA in the first six months.

    • jackryanvb

      This comment has to violate Amren’s comment guidelines- with open incitement to “kill all the Communists”.

      Amren usually has very solid comment moderation and usually doesn’t publish Right Wing revolutionary gun fantasy nonsense.

      • Your mileage may vary. Since I am already a convicted federal felon, all the misdemeanors are free for me now, and perhaps everything short of a death penalty. Maybe even that; we’re all taking the Dirt Nap eventually.

        It isn’t “gun fantasy”. Gas chambers work a real treat, but I favor working the communists to death at slave labor, and I’ll bet $20 that even the moderator would agree.

        • jackryanvb

          “Since I am already a convicted federal felon”

          Best of luck being on the outside. Please understand your rights for gun possessions are severely constrained. Try to stay free, legal and don’t fall in with idiot trouble making revolutionary fantasy gun nuts.

      • guest

        Why are you trying to end discussion of thing you don’t like?
        Why don’t you find another site.

        • That’s what he does. If he’s the same jackryan that has posted on other sites — and from the M.O. it looks like it is the same person — Jackie is always pretending to be some voice of reason by telling people what should and should not be allowed on their discussion boards and websites. He makes up absolute scenarios where everyone not jumping on his call-your-senators bandwagon is some crazy revolutionary nut.

        • Because he is a communist.

          Kill all the Communists.

  • jackryanvb

    I am requesting that American Renaissance not publish any more of these revolutionary gun fantasies. These stories might as well be scripted by the SPLC, ADL, MSNBC. There is never any coherent plan say, to beak away some smaller , independent White republic, instead it’s always sheer frustration, threats of violent gun revolution everywhere to “take back America”.

    Also, these anti government, Constitutionalist calls for violent revolution are hopelessly infected with race denying libertarians who favor letting every single human in North America have full access to military grade guns.

    • Which “revolutionary gun fantasies” are these?

      Kill all the Communists.

    • ms_anthro

      Your desperate control freak desire for the censorship of opinions you hate is duly noted. This site is called “American Renaissance.” Perhaps you would be more comfortable on a board for North Koreans, Cubans, or Red Chinese?

      The gun culture is as American as apple pie. The gun culture founded this country out of a hardscrabble collection of royalist colonies. The gun culture is the only reason our once-great cities haven’t turned into Little Mogadishu and Nuevo Juarez all over the country. The gun culture preserves your right to say stupid, defeatist, control freak things without fear of prosecution by a tyrannical state–yet.

      The 2nd Amendment is the only thing that guarantees the others. The gun culture makes a republic possible, as the Founding Fathers so sagely understood. The tree of liberty will be watered again, and no amount of online hasbara will change that, “Jack.” You don’t belong here and we aren’t buying what you’re selling.

      • jackryanvb

        Kooks, screwballs, nut cases, loners, disfunctional misfits, societal drop outs, Hollywood Nazis, paranoid conspiracy theory gun nuts. Revolutionary fantasy embarrassments to our people.

        Everyone be prepared for some 90 year old Amren poster to invade the US Holocaust museum and kill some minimum wage Black security guard.

        If these gun nut, revolutionary fantasy loons didn’t exist, the ADL, SPLC would have to invent them…

        Maybe the ADL, SPLC are making these posts.

        • ms_anthro

          Your last line is called “projection.” Google it if you’re unsure what I mean by that.

      • jackryanvb

        “This site is called “American Renaissance.” Perhaps you would be more comfortable on a board for North Koreans, Cubans, or Red Chinese?”

        Jack replies:

        Oh dear. Floyd R Turbo the Johnny Carson comedy charactiture of the paranoid Right Wing gun nut is visiting us.

        AMERICA IS ABOUT TO BE TAKEN OVER by the RED CHINESE!

        Not.

        • ms_anthro

          Is this really your idea of a solid and effective rebuttal? They’re paying you too much, “Jack.”

          • jackryanvb

            I live on the South Side of Chicago – I welcome Cubans, Russians, most Chinese – Chinatown is a solid place.

            Can we please do something about these 1950s retro Red Scare kooks?

            Wow, these race denying conspiracy mongering loons are a huge embarrassment to our people.

          • Which conspiracy mongering loons could possibly embarrass an idiot? The whole point here is civilized argument. The fact that we are all political dissidents of a sort means we are inevitably not going to be in lockstep.

            John P.M.once said “God Help Us All”, but I say,

            Kill all the Communists.

  • Old Crow

    The third American Revolution(tiebreaker)is fast becoming more than a wingnut fantasy. Jefferson was quite clear that when government ceases to repersent the interest of those it was elected to serve, the people always retain the right to divorce themselves from it or abolish it altogether.

  • Joe Mack

    I think the inability to even discuss this issue on a race realist msg board indicates that any sort of revolution would be a complete disaster – and only be used to further tighten the noose around the necks of the people living in this country.

    When the globalists have complete control, it will be bad for all people of all races. This is the sad irony.