In California, Push for College Diversity Starts Earlier

Richard Perez-Pena, New York Times, May 7, 2013

As the Supreme Court weighs a case that could decide the future of affirmative action in college admissions, California offers one glimpse of a future without it.

California was one of the first states to abolish affirmative action, after voters approved Proposition 209 in 1996. Across the University of California system, Latinos fell to 12 percent of newly enrolled state residents in the mid-1990s from more than 15 percent, and blacks declined to 3 percent from 4 percent. At the most competitive campuses, at Berkeley and Los Angeles, the decline was much steeper.

Eventually, the numbers rebounded. Until last fall, 25 percent of new students were Latino, reflecting the booming Hispanic population, and 4 percent were black. A similar pattern of decline and recovery followed at other state universities that eliminated race as a factor in admissions.

If the Supreme Court justices, who are expected to rule in the coming weeks on a case involving the University of Texas at Austin, decide to curtail or abolish the use of race and ethnicity in college admissions nationwide, then the experience here and in other states that have outlawed affirmative action in college admissions decisions—including Florida, Michigan and Washington—could point to new ways for public universities to try to compose a racially and economically diverse student body.

Those states have tried a series of new approaches to choosing students, giving applicants a leg up for overcoming disadvantages like poverty, language barriers, low-performing schools and troubled neighborhoods. That process has drawn heavy scrutiny, but in California, it is only half of a two-pronged approach. Disadvantaged students in poor neighborhoods, like Erick Ramirez, a senior at Anaheim High School, are benefiting from the state university systems’ growing efforts to cultivate applicants starting in middle school.

“We’ve worked very hard to widen the pipeline, and there is still an enormous need to do more,” said Mark G. Yudof, president of the University of California system.

The results of California’s efforts offer some measure of satisfaction to supporters and critics alike. Both sides hail the U.C. system’s strides toward economic—and not just racial—diversity; opponents of affirmative action claim that as vindication of their argument that it primarily benefits middle-class minority members. Supporters of race-conscious admissions acknowledge that the system has reversed the initial decline in black and Hispanic enrollment, though they say that is not enough. {snip}

So California’s public universities, and some of their counterparts around the country, have embedded themselves deeply in disadvantaged communities, working with schools, students and parents to identify promising teenagers and get more of them into college.

It is not enough, university administrators say, to change the way they select students; they must also change the students themselves, and begin to do so long before the time arrives to fill out applications.

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The need for such intervention unites people like Mr. Yudof, who believes that race should be a factor in admissions, and Richard D. Kahlenberg, a senior fellow at the Century Foundation, a liberal-leaning research group, who is a prominent critic of race-based affirmative action.

“If you’re serious about doing admissions based on disadvantage, it requires a lot of outreach,” Mr. Kahlenberg said. “It’s the right thing to do, but it isn’t easy, and it isn’t cheap.”

The University of California, Irvine, alone spends more than $7 million a year on that outreach, with a few hundred people working on it—mostly part time, and not always for pay—and reaching into dozens of poor neighborhoods in its region, said Stephanie Reyes-Tuccio, director of the university’s Center for Educational Partnerships.

Many of the programs predate Proposition 209, but in the years after the ban took effect the University of California system’s spending on them jumped to $85 million from $18 million, before shrinking again in the last decade.

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To qualify for the state universities, California students must earn at least Cs in higher-level courses — and many of those students are still rejected. Over the last three years, 59 percent of Asians who graduated from California high schools met the university requirements, 44 percent of whites, 28 percent of blacks and 27 percent of Latinos.

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University officials admit that it is hard to know how much difference these programs make. Most of the students they reach go on to some level of college, but those tend to be among the better students in their schools. In examining changes in U.C. enrollment, there is no way to tease out the effects of new admissions standards versus outreach to low-income students.

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  • If I ever come across a graduate of Berkeley, Stanford, UCLA, or even Indian Valley College, I will spit on the ground in front of whoever it is, probably a hippie or a dyke, and let them know what I think of their degree, AND their state.

    THEN, I’ll ask them, “why the ph_k are you living in MY state? What’s wrong with YOUR state?”
    I lived in that dump from 7th through 10th grades. I’ve earned the right to badmouth that state as much as I want to.

    • I hate California as well, but there were plenty of good folks there.

    • APaige

      Spitting on the ground in front of a person because of the college they attended? If they are living in YOUR state it is also THEIR state.

      • jambi19

        Spoken like a Cali transplant.

      • You are Gee Dee right that I have little respect for a college that believes that a primitive third worlder, who barely passed the SAT, is a better student than a white person who nearly maxed out his own test scores.

  • jay11

    Decrease and diminish the status, wealth and position of whites is the stated policy of the liberal left. How did we fall so far? I honestly believe that if a liberal was faced with the choice of saving only one of two children in danger, he would let his own biological child die in favor of a non-white child. He or she would justify this by saying that white privilege would have made him or her choose their own child, and they wanted to strike a blow for social justice.

    • The__Bobster

      Most likely. After all, they will go to Afreaka to purchase ninnies over creating White children.

    • Room101

      The people that are doing this to us are not to be envied.
      This will go on until it can’t anymore, then comes the cleansing reality.

  • bigone4u

    The university I was employed at for 30 years became ever more Hispanic, with an Hispanic president and administrators, and a majority Hispanic student body for the last 10 years. Tens of millions or MORE were spent on social engineering to offset the dysfunction. Result: It’s at the BOTTOM of the Forbes rankings of US universities. Most of the others there are schools with no money, but this one has the bucks, just nothing to show for it. What a waste. Disgusting. But the state of Texas has decreed that every Hispanic and black MUST get a college degree. Print em on rolls of TOILET paper I say. Then they can use those worthless degrees for wiping …

    • Room101

      The college-finance bubble is over-ripe and just beginning to pop as we watch the financials.
      The newspapers are coming up with ever more schemes proposing to force the taxpayers to finance other kids’ college degrees. And sports and all their filthy stupid criminals.

      A college degree could easily be seen as a liability in many circumstances, except engineering or chemistry or smething solid and mostly-un-fakeable.

      • bigone4u

        I’ve read that Obummer is thinking about a plan to forgive student loan debt. Another instance of promoting irresponsibility by him. With Washington ready to bail out higher ed, there is no incentive for anyone to act responsibly, including administrators. The median university president earns 400k a year. What a waste of OUR money.

  • The__Bobster

    Those states have tried a series of new approaches to choosing students, giving applicants a leg up for overcoming disadvantages like poverty, language barriers, low-performing schools and troubled neighborhoods. That process has drawn heavy scrutiny, but in California, it is only half of a two-pronged approach. Disadvantaged students in poor neighborhoods, like Erick Ramirez, a senior at Anaheim High School, are benefiting from the state university systems’ growing efforts to cultivate applicants starting in middle school.
    __________
    IOW, they’ve found new ways to cheat, so that more-qualified White kids will get screwed.

  • The__Bobster

    To qualify for the state universities, California students must earn at least Cs in higher-level courses — and many of those students are still rejected.
    _________

    When I went to HS, “C” students knew that they weren’t college material and took up a trade instead.

    • jambi19

      “To qualify for the state universities, California students must earn at least Cs in higher-level courses — and many of those students are still rejected. ”

      Translation: they just have to barely pass and they still get rejected.

      This is American leftism. This is conformity to the lowest common denominator.

  • Why would a California high school graduate have a language barrier to attending college in California?

    So California’s public universities, and some of their counterparts around the country, have embedded themselves deeply in disadvantaged communities, working with schools, students and parents to identify promising teenagers and get more of them into college.

    Here’s an idea, build some branches of the U of C and Cal State systems in the ghettoes. Attach them to the high schools they have ruined.

    To qualify for the state universities, California students must earn at least Cs in higher-level courses — and many of those students are still rejected. Over the last three years, 59 percent of Asians who graduated from California high schools met the university requirements, 44 percent of whites, 28 percent of blacks and 27 percent of Latinos.

    Which means whites and asians are rejected in favor blacks and hispanics from lower quality schools who got the “coveted” C average ….. dismal.

    • jambi19

      The whites that do get accepted have to take out 100K and up loans to pay for all the diversity too!

  • crystalevans

    California does not want to admit the inevitable. Their state universities are going to be overrun by whites and Asians. Why? Because they have the best test scores and G.P.A.’s. The majority of blacks and Latinos that they admit will not be able to compete against their white and Asian classmates.

    • Aspiring rapper

      But then they just transfer into “Ethnic Studies” or some other baloney degree. Once blacks are admitted to college, they graduate as long as they show up for class occasionally.

      You wouldn’t believe the functionally illiteracy of some black “college graduates”. I read a dissertation from one in a Master’s degree program at a top tier school, and she wrote at a 4th grade level!

      She was dumb as a rock…and now she makes over $100,000 working for the federal government. I should dye my skin brown and change my name to La’Quashondretta.

      • Nick Gherz

        Most pro athletes have a college “diploma”. BFD

        • crystalevans

          Yeah, they run out of eligibility and leave with nothing.

        • MBlanc46

          I think that graduation rates for big-time college sports programs are abysmal. They might show up for the season for four years, but fewer than half graduate.

      • crystalevans

        Did she actually get a Masters? She must have gone to one of those online universities where they accept everybody and everybody who goes there ends up in debt but without a diploma. I believe that Ethnic Studies should not be a college major. I can see Ethnic Studies courses as part of general education requirements or as an elective.

        • dukem1

          Here’s a 5 second ethnic studies course:
          People are different. Take a look around. Use your head.
          Thank you. You owe me $100k.

        • Aspiring rapper

          No, she went to a prestigious private university for her Masters, which is how I met her through a classmate. She screamed racism when a professor told her that her writing skills were “not college level” – her professors were afraid of her after that and passed her along.

      • IstvanIN

        I have a dope with a master’s degree working for me, and calling her as dumb as a box of rocks is an insult to rocks.

      • Room101

        Who’s to say you weren’t Born Black (“other”) if you tick the box on an official application for a government job?

        If they say you’re not, you could sue for millions!

        That’s the only way to take it down.

        Swamp it with lawsuits.

        • Good idea. And I could get a free geneology search done for me if they want to contest whatever I select.

      • guest

        Have you ever read Michelle Obama’s thesis on Princeton-Educated Blacks and the Black Community? You can find it on Google easily. It’s boring and shouldn’t be considered a thesis. My high school papers were at a higher level. I was rejected from Princeton, probably because I lack the right qualification which she had (skin color).

  • Jefferson

    [QUOTE]The need for such intervention unites people like Mr. Yudof, who believes that race should be a factor in admissions,[/QUOTE]

    Whatever happened to a color blind society ? Why did liberals give up on trying to achieve that ?

    Liberals are more race obsessed than the right, yet right wingers like me are the ones who are called racist.

    • Jefferson,

      You are using “board code”, brackets. Discus uses HTML.

      i = italics
      b=bold
      s=strikeout
      u=underline
      Can also use “blockquote”.
      .
      Enclose them in the same manner you are doing with brackets,
      by using the less than and greater than signs.

  • Room101

    Mark Yudof stuck the taxpayers of Minnesota with hundreds of millions in government waste, fraud, and abuse during his brief tenure @ the University of Minnesota.
    He’s a perfect fit for the California government ‘educational system’ and its taxpayers, if any.

  • White Mom in WDC

    California aka Crapafornia. A lost cause. Maybe the San Andreas fault will get active and some thinning the herd action will start.

  • Howard W. Campbell

    Kansas City (and the state of Missouri) was ordered to spend over $1B to upgrade the schools in the 1980’s and early 90’s. It was only stopped because of a Supreme Court decision that was 5-4. What do you want to bet that the Universities in California will experience a similar result (just drawn out over a longer period). Once kids are 18 and out of high school, they cannot be forced to attend college (for now).

    I am personally more impressed with someone who learns a trade than the person who spends 12 years getting their PhD in 13th century Albigensian literature and then whines about $150K in student loans and either not finding a job or being on the community college circuit. I may steer my kids to this path, even corporate America is hell-bent on not employing white engineers. Find a black engineer with even marginal skills, and the people in HR will have multiple orgasms.

  • China is laughing at us—they won’t have to ‘compete’ with us in the future; we won’t have the skill set in our ‘college educated’ workforce.

    There is NO diversity in China….or abandoning of a standard.

    • Are they laughing? Their only aircraft carrier is a former Russian rust-bucket that was laid down at Nicolayev in 1985 and completed in China in 2012. The fighter jets for it are copies of the Sukhoi Su-33. China hasn’t produced any brilliant aerospace engineers. Where is their Andrei Mikoyan, Willy Messerschmitt, Ernst Heinkel, Jiro Horikoshi or Kelly Johnson?

      Their new 5.7mm DPB military cartridge arrives at precisely the time when everyone is re-thinking the problem and deciding that cartridges like the 5.56mm are not enough. It appears that 6.8mm SOCOM is the future, and the Jordanian army is converting their M-4 carbines for that.

      The one armament China has produced that was unique was their first atom bomb. Instead of running a reactor on U-238 and recovering Pu-239 from the spent fuel rods for use in the bomb, they ran a reactor on Th-232 and recovered U-233 and then used that. I don’t know what the economies of scale as far as making a fission bomb with U-233 are, but running their reactor on Th-232 had to be very cheap.

      The Chinese are also notso-hotso at preserving their environment. China is literally the filthiest place I have even been. The countryside is beautiful, but as much as I love seafood, I would never eat anything that came out of their water. It’s probably full of polychlorinated biphenyls.

    • Anonymous

      You know, China actually has the same odious form of affirmative action for its minorities. People are dumb all over the world. I have heard that ethnic minorities in China can have as many children as they wish…so the Chinese elite are also trying to replace the native population with minorities.

  • No “anti-racists” say a 100% Black area needs more diversity.

    No “anti-racists” say a 100% Asian area needs more diversity.

    No “anti-racists” say a 100% Muslim area needs more diversity.

    According to “anti-racists”, they are already 100% diverse.

    They say ALL & ONLY White area need to be more diverse, and that White areas only stop needing to be more diverse when there are no White people left in them.

    Anti-racist is a codeword for anti-White.

  • Ella

    I am not sure if this whole push on education is about minorities. I think it’s about subsidizing the Universities and big banks through student loans/grants. There are States now with less than half Whites (CA, NM and TX) so they look for new marketing strategies to sell openings and degrees. I’ll take your monies for the first year but then, flunk you out after your probationary period. So it leaves more open slots for upcoming students. Everyone knows about 1/2 the students currently enrolled should not even be on campus. Then, Lib professors will socially promote a few out of guilt or fear.

    • jambi19

      “Lib professors will socially promote a few out of guilt or fear.” Or for another year of tuition $$$

  • LHathaway

    What about white students from poor neighborhoods? Oh that’s right, the same student who are beneficiaries of these ‘two-pronged approaches’, and affirmative action at private universities, and by nearly all employers, and are beneficiaries at pubic universities in the other 40-some state, these same beneficiary ‘victims’ have ethnically cleansed whites from their former neighborhoods. .

  • Bobby

    California is a case study in what happens when today’s Democrat Party gets complete control of a state. California should be a textbook study and a lesson and warning to other U.S. states, yet I’ve noticed that on issue after issue, many states are following the same disastrous policies. For one example, California’s polticians in Sacramento the capitol and in large cities, have a policy of spending BILLIONS OF DOLLARS, for not only hispanics, but Mexicans and others who are in the state illegally. At first Sacramento’s worthless politicians denied that illegal aliens get benefits from taxpayers. But strange as it sounds, the Los Angeles Times , actually printed an article proving the Democrats that denied it ,were flat out lying. Of course the policy stays. Democrats will never change anything that overly burdens white taxpayers

  • Maribel Guardia

    well I do like the effort the administrators are putting in to get more Pedro’s and Tyrone’s into the U.C. system. Me? I got lost on my way to college, to borrow a line from the film Jarhead, due to paranoid schizophrenia; I lost approximately 10 years of my life. On the mammoth dosages of meds for my mental disorders and thanks to my kid sis, I’m able to go to school. At my age, I’m realistic about my future, I have a community college certificate in the bag, and I’m working on an associate’s degree in a particular healthcare trade. California Community Colleges are cool; they have many trades to choose from. I wish I had the support I have now — ten years ago, so that I could have received a Bachelor’s. But having one is no guarantee of success. I know of losers who have business degrees who are working outside their field. I have an idiot in the family who majored in Sociology from UC Riverside; and, guess what his gf majored in? Native American Studies. ROFLcopter. Losers like them two can’t find a job outside of Jack in the Box, if even. Which is why I like community colleges so much; they have many trades to choose from. Get yourself an Associate’s degree in a trade, and you’ll be fine in this robust market economy. Chau!

  • SFLBIB

    This article has some misinformation. First, CA did not eliminate race-based admissions; the people voted via Prop 209 to eliminate it, and the Prop survived court challenge, but the university system defied the law from the day it passed the ballot. Here are several articles by Heather MacDonald that document that defiance:

    “Affirmative Action Showdown”
    January 30, 2007
    http://archive.frontpagemag.com/readArticle.aspx?ARTID=390

    “Diversity Forever”
    20 September 2012
    http://www.city-journal.org/2012/cjc0920hm.html

    Second, initially, minority enrollment dropped because of the adverse publicity, but once that wore off, it rebounded, which would explain what the author states.

    No where in all the literature and propaganda that I’ve read about affirmative action do its proponents explain why the freshman class of a top university has to “look” like the population. If a student lacks the test scores, why can’t he attend community college and establish his ability then transfer?

    Finally, from Professor Lino Graglia of U. of Texas Law School:

    “We can’t have” (i.e., it is not politically feasible to
    have) “an all white institution.”

    “THE ‘AFFIRMATIVE ACTION’ FRAUD”
    http://law.wustl.edu/journal/54/Graglia.pdf