Con Artists Tormenting Chinese Immigrants in Brooklyn with Cash-or-Curse Scam

CBS New York, April 23, 2013

Con artists are targeting the elderly in a frightening way in Brooklyn.

As CBS 2’s John Slattery reported Tuesday, they ask for cash, and if they don’t get it, they terrorize their victims by threatening an evil curse.

As Chinese immigrants expand their growth in the city, con artists are targeting their older population, like those in Sheepshead Bay. Slattery spoke to one woman who knows one of the victims, and explained that the motive is said to be simple.

“Easy money,” she said.

It’s an old scam, warding off evil with a so-called “blessing.”

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“It is a curse. They try to scare some family member got sick … get spell … a curse from the evil,” said community activist Sammy Tsang.

Tsang said if money or jewelry is not paid, the target is warned a family member will suffer.

“They believe it, usually. They are very superstitious,” Tsang said.

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The scam has spread from China to San Francisco, to Boston and New York, and could move farther, police said.

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  • David Ashton

    You’d think that with their Super IQs this couldn’t happen, could it, J. E. ?

    • The__Bobster

      It’s amazing how superstitious these “intelligent” people can be, J.E.

      • The__Bobster
        • SmithandSmith

          Did you read any those posts on that article? Lots of sick people out there. Some say he cheated and I’m thinking, so? I would just leave but hey, I’m just a White Girl and apparently, not “smart” enough to come up with something so “intelligent” as cutting off my Husband’s private part.

        • josh

          Do you think asians have a tendency to do that kind of thing?

      • SmithandSmith

        I’m sure you noted how the ever so “intelligent and honest” asians were scamming American Tax Payers’ (welfare apartment) even though both their families apparently have money. Aren’t all the asian lovers always telling us how family oriented they are? Why weren’t their families helping them out financially if they needed the help so badly?

        I’m betting they were getting all kinds of other Welfare too since she was already “qualified” and just waiting for an available space in that Welfare Apartment Building.

      • Lancasharia

        The favourite Chinese scam round our way is to refuse to pay for work you have done for them. I built 2 pillars for a Chinese bloke who then says he doesn’t like them. Wrong colour. ” I not pay you!” The twat chose the rock in the first place. Anything to get out of paying. A lien solved the problem.

    • JohnEngelman

      They are elderly, poor, and probably poorly educated. Are you gloating at their expense?

      • SmithandSmith

        You can’t have it both ways. Your people are either better than us or they’re not. They’re not of course but whenever they’re shown for how they really are, you got an excuse at the ready.

        I’ll buy you a One-Way First Class Ticket to China. I’ll even give you some pocket money to take with ya. Will you go?

      • Greg Thomas

        And likely on the public dole as well.

        • SmithandSmith

          Center for Immigration Studies talks about that very issue. It’s a huge scam the asians commit. They’re supposed to take care of their elderly family they bring over but they put them on Welfare instead. They get SSI and all kinds of other assistance and “free” medical care too of course.

          • potato78

            http://yeeality.com/coacd/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/April_10_2007_Siri_Trump_11.jpg

            im scandinavian, and people make fun of me cuz i look asian. i try to explain its cuz im scandinavian but they dont understand, because scandinavia is europe!

          • Michael_C_Scott

            Whether or not that’s you, it is an outstandingly pretty photo, though you don’t look Asian.

          • NYB

            You really trust the Asian con artist potatohead? That’s a picture of Norwegian supermodel Siri Tollerød.

            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siri_Toller%C3%B8d

            He got you.

          • potato78

            Quote:
            “most original blonde scandinavian like finn that I have talked to…they 20000% excepted that they got asian blood from sami. ( lappi) they came from siberia.”
            How much pressure they got from their neighbors?
            Check this link.
            http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20100724061914AAkC0RE

          • Michael_C_Scott

            Does it matter? Since money wasn’t involved, I’m calling this “no harm, no foul.”

          • NeanderthalDNA

            If only she would get me!!!!! LOL!

          • BaronBaal

            Lol, and judging from how much Scott brags you’d think he’s smarter than the rest of us.

          • potato78
          • Michael_C_Scott

            I read that. I am Scottish, Irish, Welsh, German, Cherokee and Tuscarora: the Yank Heinz-57 mutt.

            My wife, Sayaka has a bigger nose than most Japanese. Where does one draw the line between “Japanese” Ainu and “Russian” Nivkhs?

          • NeanderthalDNA

            “White” is a pretty broad category and much of White variations are actually due to some admixture somewhere sometime of what many uber-purists would not consider “White”.

            The American White, especially, is a NEW MAN, a new version of White. Like you and your family. Thank God most of the “nutzis” seem to have drifted off here…

          • potato78

            Indeed, American Whites are a New Version of The World Whites.

          • NeanderthalDNA

            Socially speaking, East Asians in America ARE “white”. Socially I include them in the “white” category for obvious reasons.

            You know, neanderthal DNA is spread THROUGHOUT Eurasia. I remember watching a terrible miniseries years ago on the Huns where Attila looked more Germanic than Mongol, and ridiculed it for that reason (as well as the fact that it was just awful, lol), but upon further examination of the known history of the Huns, decided my notions of a very Mongol/East Asian looking group of folk were indeed perhaps inaccurate. They seem to have started pretty far East, but over the process of some 2 or 3 centuries slowly drifted westward, absorbing many populations, including remnants of Tocharians and other Indo-European genotypes until by the time they reached Rome…they very well may have looked…not exactly Mongol/Chinese at all.

            Sans insidious Bantu DNA, I believe we had a nearly perfect world, genetically, culturally. East and West formed a very dynamic sort of Yin/Yang balance that left to develop without much destructive input from Bantustan, meeting and mixing on the wide steppes of Eurasia and again in the New World, while remaining separate on the extremes of western Europe and Eastern Asia…

            Formed a perfect dichotomy and dynamic melange that boded well for the future of the human species. As evinced by the decline of the Islamic Middle east and now once fair Europe and Anglo-America, however, a retrograde DNA trojan horse has been introduced that may indeed set back human evolution thousands or more years.

            But as I’ve posted before I have two very good friends, a white fellow and a Japanese-Irish fellow, the first formerly married to a Korean/Ashkenazi, the second to a White woman, who both have precious little “WHITE” daughters whose lives, honor, and “whiteness” I will defend with my own. Uber purist are just as dangerous as are liblefty White genocidalists to our survival.

          • BaronBaal

            Why do you keep giving personal information about yourself and your family? No one here cares to know your wife’s name or that she comes from a famous military family, or that you were incarcerated for doing this or that, etc, etc. Don’t get me wrong because I don’t really want to be argumentive but c’mon, man, let’s try to stay more or less on topic.

          • Nathanwartooth
          • BaronBaal

            Only the eye-folds.

          • SmithandSmith

            I don’t believe you. You and I went back and forth about asians and you were pro but that’s not what’s important. You insulted White People on a Pro-White Website so I find it very hard to believe you’re White let alone this little girl.

            By the way, the mass majority of White People know how to write and your writing skills are more in line with a non-white immigrant. It’s okay if ya are, just don’t lie about it, that’s all.

          • Michael_C_Scott

            She doesn’t write English very well, but if she could write in her native language, it shouldn’t be very difficult.

          • NeanderthalDNA

            Pic’s of a supermodel. Potato got us. Shows the power a beautiful White face can wield on otherwise cynical bastards like us! Ha ha!!!!

            As Jared would say, “Looks white to me!” Me too…

          • American Tax Payer

            I’m American and this is America. English or Bust.

          • NeanderthalDNA

            Oh lovely daughter of the North. You likely have a some Sami blood in you. You are White.

            Only suggestion I have – White people tend to capitalize the first letters of every sentence. Rebellion is fine, but you’re White, angel…

          • romulus

            Asians or more corectly mongloids are not born with blonde hair. The sami, however do have somewhat of a connection to asiatics. Keep in mind though about dominant and recessive genes. If your father is a norseman, genes tend to favor the male so that his offspring will resemble him. Thus insuring the pairbond to raise them

      • This is funny as hell. Can’t you think of a better response, J.E.? I’m gloating at your expense.

      • David Ashton

        No, I don’t gloat over any victims of crime, even poor and uneducated Blacks or Mexicans. I am just pointing out that the Chinese may not all be as law-abiding or as clever as you imagine. Still, well done on producing a sentence we haven’t seen before!

        • JohnEngelman

          Read my posts with better comprehension. I have never said that all Orientals are intelligent. I have never said that none are criminals. I have said with ample documentation I have found on this website that most Orientals are more intelligent than most Nordics, and that a smaller percentage of them are criminals.

          • David Ashton

            2/10 marks for sentences we HAVE seen before.

          • JohnEngelman

            The sentences of mine you have seen before are in response to insults I have responded before, or facile arguments I have refuted before.

            I am told that I should be banned, that this or that crime committed by a Chinese visitor or Chinese American means that that they are a dangerous race , that the technological superiority of the West proves that the white race is superior to the Oriental race, that Jewish success in areas requiring superior intelligence is the result of nepotism and cronyism, and so on.

            It does get tiresome to keep responding to my detractors with the same quotes from the same articles I have found on this website, and written by men who have spoken at American Renaissance conferences. Nevertheless, if my detractors would read the articles I link to they might become enlightened.

            I am not claiming to be a mouthpiece for Jared Taylor, although I frequently quote him. We have our disagreements. Nevertheless, we generally agree about what is true and false.

          • David Ashton

            I am interested in direct answers to my own arguments and numerous references;.e.g. Misha Glenny, “McMafia: Seriously Organized Crime” (2009) esp.ch.14 on China.

            Ethnic successes may be due to a combination of ability with ethnic networking, not just one or the other.

            Immigration is a problem because of cultural difference. Compare your own view that nationalism has triumphed over Karl Marx’s view of class.

            Intelligence is important – so is what people do with it; e.g. “Arnold Rothstein, arguably the founder of modern American organized crime” (Martin Short, “The Mafia” [2009] p.140ff).

          • JohnEngelman

            Ethnic networking will be weaker than the old boy network of the established ethnicity. Jewish and Oriental successes were made despite discrimination against both groups.

          • David Ashton

            Discrimination is a reinforcement of ethnic solidarity and incentive to in-group co-operation and promotion. I greatly respect the positive achievements of individual Jews and Chinese, especially in scientific and medical research. There have been some very brainy and “successful” people whose considerable influence we could have done without – e.g. Meyer Lansky, Otto Katz, Franz Boas, Alexander Helphand, Harry Dexter White, Herbert Marcuse, Jerry Rubin, Richard Perle, to name a few.

      • josh

        Elderly…poor…poorly educated..and HERE! yeah immeegration is great! Chinese are a boon to America!! Us low IQ’s are so grateful to you for bringing your 3/4 dead relatives that we may have the honor to support .

    • a multiracial individual

      Every race believes in religious superstition. The correlation to IQ is undeniable. Belief in God in the United States:

      Jews<Asians<Whites<Hispanics<Blacks.

      Everyone else believes in superstitious nonsense like this in America. The only difference is their beliefs are usualky viewed through the lense of Christianity.

      • a multiracial individual

        Moderator? What happened to my post?

        • The way you typed it out, it interpreted your “less than” signs as HTML tags.

          • a multiracial individual

            Thank very much for correcting the issue.

      • pcmustgo

        Wait, you’re saying Blacks believe in it the most?

        Some of us have had crazy supernatural experiences… ok?

        • pcmustgo

          You have no proof God or spirits or the supernatural or ghosts don’t exist.

        • a multiracial individual

          There is almost no human that is more rare than a black non-believer.

      • guest

        *Every race believes in religious superstition.*

        Also, superstition unaffiliated with religion abounds among members every race.

        • a multiracial individual

          A fair point. I wish more detailed surveys could be given.

    • a multiracial individual

      On average, Whites believe in religious superstition more than East Asians.

      • SmithandSmith

        How so?

        • a multiracial individual

          52% of Chinese-Americans and 32% of Japanese-Americans are unaffiliated with religion. [Pg. 44]

          This is FAR higher than Whites.

          http://www.pewforum.org/uploadedFiles/Topics/Demographics/Asian%20Americans%20religion%20full%20report.pdf

          • SmithandSmith

            This is not an answer to my question. You wrote “religious superstition” not “religion”. Just because people believe in God does not mean they’re superstitious. I’m betting very few White People believe in stupid things like handling snakes (can’t remember what that’s supposed to be for) and roll all over the Church floor like they’re having convulsions. Most White Congregations simply read The Bible and Pray and that does not qualify as being superstitious.

            Also, just because a good number of asians are atheists does not mean they don’t believe in superstition. I’m willing to bet that the mass majority of asians do indeed believe in superstition hence all the weird stuff they do like eating certain animal parts for virality and other such things. Not to mention, believing in things like this article talks about.

          • David Ashton

            Does this mean they are more or less intelligent than church-going Nordic Gentile Episcopalians who have read the entire Bible several times in different translations, like an occasional contributor to this website?

      • pcmustgo

        Interesting. I would argue Blacks and Hispanics with their Voodoo do, but many White HIppies are into witchcraft and spiritualism, etc. I don’t think they take it that seriously though, they just pretend to. That being said, Whites are into the occult too. Including some wealthy whites… usually more “creative” type whites.

        • dogbone

          I think Multi is correct. If whites didn’t believe in their religious superstitions, especially the one that says “all men are created equal,” white nations wouldn’t be in the mess they are in today.

          • a multiracial individual

            Egalitarianism is wedded to the Christian. Faith

          • dogbone

            “Egalitarianism is wedded to the Christian. Faith”

            This country was supposedly started by christians, but they didn’t consider women or blacks to be equal, so either this country wasn’t based on christianity or christians aren’t egalitarians.

  • sbuffalonative

    I had a neighbor who confronted two Hispanics who used cut through his property. One of the guys started speaking in Spanish and said, “I put a curse on you”.
    The neighbor lived well into his late 80’s and died living a full, healthy, happy, and uncursed life.

  • bigone4u

    A lot of white women are into fortune telling, tarot cards, auras, remote viewing, magic crystals and other similar stuff. One of them had a PH.D. and taught classes for a Catholic university. Many white Christians are believers in demons. You might be amused to know that I’ve heard some say that interracial sex and any type of porn consumption open one up to be invaded by demons who will drive a person to total perversion. BTW, Mexicans are also into voodoo type stuff. There are witch doctors all over San Antonio called cunanderos (sp?) where you can buy a magic monkey foot or whatever.

    • pcmustgo

      Yup, especially hippies… astrology too. I used to be… wicca too. That being said, I don’t think whites take it as seriously as voodoo practicing Haitians or Blacks. But make no mistake, white witchcraft might as well be voodoo except they don’t sacrifice animals usually. But it is the same concept throughout the world- contacting the dead (spirits) to give you power in the here and now.

      Nancy Reagan engaged in this.

      Jim Morrison and Jimi Hendrix and ALL 60’s musicans were heavy into the occult, as is Stevie Nicks, the Eagles, etc.

      • Tori

        Morrison claimed to be into shamanism, butt mostly he was a drunk. I’ve never read anything that suggests Hendrix was into the occult. Jimmy Page was the only occult practitioner I know of, and his Led Zeppelin bandmates couldn’t have cared less.

      • David Ashton

        Don’t forget the Odinists.

    • Michael_C_Scott

      Mexicans also contaminate rental properties by placing droplets of mercury into candle flames to keep away witches. You never get that stuff back out of the sheetrock. After methamphetamines manufacture, use of mercury by greasers as a folk remedy is the leading cause of residential chemical contamination.

      • bigone4u

        Mercy. I never knew that. When I once had to rent my house it was rented to a white woman with black children. There were holes knocked in the walls and some small trees I planted with love cut down, but I guess it could have been worse. Mercury poisoned sheetrock!

      • josh

        Mexicans also contaminate rental properties by placing many mexicans into the apartments. You never get THAT out of the sheetrock!

    • SmithandSmith

      I don’t think it’s “a lot”. I know a lot of White Women and none of them believe in any of the stuff you wrote. As for the race-mixing part, it just wasn’t talked about because it was just plain ‘ole unnatural.

      Regarding the pornography, I’ve never heard any of them say demons would enter your body or drive you to total perversion. They’ve only said that it’s bad and unhealthy for a person because it’s not realistic. They mean that the girls are always perfectly made up (normal women just look like women, no professional make-up/hair job and women actually age and don’t stay eighteen forever) but me, I say it’s evil because that’s someone’s child who is being treated like a piece of meat and some filthy, good for nothing perverts are getting filthy stinkin’ rich off of it while the those “stars” end up old and thoroughly used up and many times, disease ridden and then they are promptly thrown away by Society and of course, that “film industry”.

  • romulus

    Super IQ’s my ass! The vast majority of China’s 1.4 billion people are peasant crap who still believe in ancient medicine. You know, eating rhinoceros horn,deer antlers, and tiger penis. They are currently by FAR more diligent students than white Americans because,again, a huge number live in poverty and take full advantage of the system that our children take for granted. They’re too busy partying “dude”

    • anonymous_amren

      That doesn’t mean they don’t have super IQs.

  • SmithandSmith

    This can’t be true ’cause as we all know, asians are the “smartest” of them all…

    I guess now it will be up to White People to solve this problem too right?

    As for the “frightening” part, the only frightening thing around here is the fact that asians consume everything in sight, their bugs and fish are destroying our crops and waters and how they take over entire neighborhoods and towns in no time flat. And then there’s all the financial fraud they commit. And of course, their violent gangs too.

    • Intrepid

      1) The average westerner consumes way more than the average Asian.
      2) Invasive species are everywhere.
      3) The Financial fraud they commit is absolutely nothing compared to Wall Street and American Greed.
      4) For all intents and purposes, Asians don’t commit violent crime. Of the U.S. prison population, Asians in there for murder are less than a fraction of 1%.

      • SmithandSmith

        1) – I assume you’re actually serious with that most ridiculous statement of yours. There are well over two billion asians so all the White People put together couldn’t consume more than them even if they tried their very best.

        2) – You really could care less what happens to America could you? Did you know that stink bugs live for seven years and that they have destroyed crop after crop after crop after crop of FOOD? They’re still destroying of course and guess what else? NOTHING kills them. Trees are being destroyed right and left from asian bugs and our waters and fishes are being destroyed by asian fish and asians have fished so heavily, there have been Laws enacted in order to keep the asians from fishing and eating them into extinction. Florida had to put a limit on softshell turtles because the asians were overfishing them.

        3) – The financial fraud they commit is worse than Wall Street and “American Greed”. – http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/investigate/organizedcrime/asianhttps://oig.hhs.gov/fraud/fugitives/profiles.asp – and then there’s that pesky little fact that the most fraud in the entire world is committed in Asia by, drum roll please, ASIANS! – http://www.cfoinnovation.com/content/portrait-asian-fraud-male-and-finance

        By the way, Madoff isn’t American, he’s a Jew so you can’t count him.

        4) – You must be an asian for only an asian would write such nonsense as this! Please take the time to read about all the violent asian gangs in America. “But Southeast Asian gangs, while less prevalent in the Northern San Joaquin Valley, are still part of the area’s criminal landscape and are just as dangerous as their Latino rivals.” “Detective Ra Pouv said about the mentality of Southeast Asian gang members. “If someone disrespects you, it’s on.” – http://www.modbee.com/2011/01/28/1533279/asian-gangs-violence-felt-in-stanislaus.html#storylink=cpy

        “Law enforcement officials in California, Georgia, Maryland, Massachusetts, Michigan, Montana, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, Virginia, and Wisconsin report a significant increase in Asian gangs in their jurisdictions.”

        Asian gangs are involved in a host of criminal activities to include violent crime, drug and human trafficking, and white-collar crime. – http://www.fbi.gov/stats-services/publications/2011-national-gang-threat-assessment/2011-national-gang-threat-assessment#Expansion

        By the way, West Nile Virus is believed to have come here from a mosquito hiding in tires from Japan and there are several deaths every single year and hundreds of illnesses from it and then there’s the Asian Tiger Mosquito and Dengue and Yellow Fever and, well, there’s lots of stuff from Asia that has done nothing but kill Americans and America. By the way, there are two new invasive species that poor ‘ole America has to deal with every single year too. One day, all those foreign bugs are gonna completely destroy her and every single last one of them is from Asia and/or Africa.

        Here’s something you’ll probably like – http://endoftheamericandream.com/archives/the-chinese-government-is-buying-up-economic-assets-and-huge-tracts-of-land-all-over-the-united-states

    • potato78

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEdiAcu6sHQ&NR=1&feature=endscreen

      Yuja Wang plays Rachmaninov’s Piano Concerto No. 3

      • NYB

        Imitating someone else’s culture.

        • potato78

          http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/lofiversion/index.php/t222952.html

          “White Nationalists claim that they are superior because they have different shades of hair and eye color;
          apparently they are not aware of Siberians and other obscure East Asian tribes such as Jurchen, Evenk, Yakut, (and even some Northern Han) etc who also have blond, orange, and red hair and blue/green/gray eyes.

          But, back to the topic, will you support any attempt of the Inuits/Eskimos and Siberians entering an ASIAN UNION?

          • NYB

            We already have the Arctic Council Indigenous People’s Secretariat, which includes those groups and the Saami people of Scandinavia.

          • romulus

            To be sure, through miscegenation, nordic mutations will crop up mathematically from time to time. They do not however, originate in mongoloids.

          • BaronBaal

            You can blame Genghis Khan for that, chump. He went around raping and pillaging everywhere he went.

          • cat cait

            Your comment is very negative. = negative energy.
            I would like to give you some positive energy, here.
            http://www.happierabroad.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=12705

          • BaronBaal

            Nothing negative about it at all. This guy was talking about how some asians have white features and a lot of that has to do with the mongol horde. When the horde swept through the vast Eurasian steppe they raped and pillaged as they went. And many East European and Russian women were raped and in turn produced white-mongol children, and that’s why some of the asian tribes he mentioned have offspring who come out with red hair, blond, hair, blue eyes, green eyes, etc. And above and beyond that, ancient white tribes such as the Tocharians did at one time exist in Western China and throughout Central Asia along the ancient Silk Road. They were eventually driven out by the ever-expanding East Asians but their genepool still exists in the East Asian population today and that’s another reason why sometimes we see Chinese and other East Asians with red hair and green eyes and pale skin, etc.

        • Bob

          Imitation or not. Check this out.

          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e3oNVmSaMsE

          • Michael_C_Scott

            Goodness. That was beautiful.

      • David Ashton

        Very good. Chinese music itself sounds pretty weird in comparison.

  • Greg Thomas

    Whatever. Maybe they should go back to china to escape this terror.

  • BaronBaal

    Wow, some of you are pro-asian here. Maybe you aren’t so pro-white afterall? Hmm…

  • FredMertz

    You think threats of a curse could induce sweet asian girls to offer a guy their charms?