Upcoming Workshop at Brown Univ. Set to Help Queer Minorities Overcome Attraction to Queer Whites

Timothy Dionisopoulos, Campus Reform, March 19, 2013

A group of Brown University students appear to be preparing an on-campus workshop in which “queer” participants will separate by race to work past their sexual attraction to Caucasians.

We “find ourselves falling always for the white queers… wishing we could have more agency in the process, be more intentional about who we desire and how,” reads the official Facebook description of the event.

“We are invested in generating a politics of sexuality that compels us to interrogate beauty as privilege and constructed by systems of white supremacy, ableism, capitalism, and heteronormativity,” it continues.

{snip} The workshop called “Protect me from what I want: a workshop on privilege, power, and desire” is sponsored by an organization called the Comprehensive Allyship Network, according to the Facebook event page.

“We will break into POC [People Of Color] and White caucus groups for a part of the workshop to unpack some of our specific experiences of racialized desire,” reads the event description. “This will be an intentional, anti-racist, and feminist space.”

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  • Gay Black Man

    I have mixed views about this.

    • The__Bobster

      Me, too. Genuine misgenation bothers me more, as it results in mongrel children and less White ones.

    • Morris LeChat

      who cares what a negro has to say about anything?

  • StillModerated

    To think Brown is an Ivy League school. Is this what “higher education” has devolved into?

  • pcmustgo

    This reminds me of a room for rent ad I read on craigslist- the “space” was like this… gay, diverse, conversations on “privilege” were to be expected and encouraged, etc. It used the same language as this.

    • sbuffalonative

      That’s a Supreme Court dream case to end this madness right there.
      The ad claims they encourage conversations about diversity and privilege. Take the apartment and give them a conversation.
      Once you’re kicked out for expressing your views, you sue. They’ll argue that they have the right to kick you out for your views.
      If a test case like this made it to the SC, it would call into question who has the right of freedom of association.
      The “progressive” left would be terrified of such a case because if you won, freedom of association would be re-established. If you lost, the same rules would then apply to the “progressive” left.

  • ncpride

    Sheesh….How much lower can we possibly sink as a nation? I mean, what more can you say about this nonsense?

  • pcmustgo

    I’m not so sure about this. On the one hand, I’ve heard even Blacks Lesbians like white women (Tracy Chapman is now dating a white girl, after all those songs about black oppression). On the other hand, black gays and lesbians seem to have their own homo thug scene. I have heard gays “of color” critsize white male gays for having their own “tribe” and self-segregating.

    I have heard white males are the Type O negative of gay male dating, meaning, you may see a white male gay with a black or an asian or a latino, but never the other groups mixing or dating…

    • Kevin

      Did you ever listen to Tracy Chapman’s music? Her songs were about poor people in general, not just poor Black people. In fact, the overwhelming majority of her fan base was /is White.

      • pcmustgo

        I’m an expert on her music. No, her music is laced with references to socialism/communism and the “white man” holding down blacks. Listen to “Born To Fight”. That being said, she’s amazing. Her voice, her guitar skills, the simpleness yet profound impact of her songs. She’s just another super gifted and important black artist.

        Of course, like most gifted black artists, her audience is lily-white. Whites have better taste in Black music. We’re inherently classier- and it shows.

        I’m able to give credit where credit is do. I have no problem crediting Blacks with generally being some of the most gifted musical artists out there, particularly in the past. I do have a problem with people who don’t give such credit to the amazing white/euro-american artists too.

        I’m able to separate artists from their politics.

        • Daisy

          I’m not. I can’t listen to white-bashing in the lefty artists at all. I was at a gay group-sponsored mini concert in the area and some seemingly mellow, cool white lesbian was playing her guitar and doing covers and she did the Indigo Girls’ tune which has some refrain about “Even white people” should be moved to dance or something. I just cannot take any patronization or stereotyping of whites, period. I complained about that and other more outrageous anti-white comments and eventually disassociated myself from the whole place for that and other reasons.

        • François

          Guitar skills, really? I enjoy playing the guitar, and I have played a few different kinds of music, over the years, so allow me to just quote heavy metal singer Dee Snyder: “You know what? Plug Paul Simon and Tracy Chapman’s acoustic guitars in two Marshall stacks… and Ride the Lighting!!!”

          I mean, those two are very good, and prolific songwriters, yes, but virtuosos…?

      • François

        Her music doesn’t sound very Black, I think. What kind of audience was she really targetting?

    • Mike

      In Phoenix you do.

  • sbuffalonative

    …systems of white supremacy, ableism, capitalism, and heteronormativity

    Ableism? Heteronormatvity? Spell check doesn’t recognize either.

    The workshop called “Protect me from what I want”

    The name of the workshop seethes with jealousy. They want what they can’t have.

    • Triarius

      Pretty much like hetero colored people. I love the “beauty as a privilage” part. Thank you minorities.

      • Daisy

        Someone tell that to the blacks crying about all the white models.

    • jane johnson

      I had to write a paper recently on the “Five Isms”, and ableism was one of them. I had never heard of it either up to that point, but FYI the term’s first known use was in 1981 (9 years before the ADA of 1990), and is defined as discrimination or prejudice against individuals with disabilities. How that relates to the “workshop” is anyone’s guess. BTW, the other 4 isms were racism, sexism, heterosexism(discrimination or prejudice against homosexuals by heterosexuals), and ageism(dis. or prej. against a particular age group; This one can apply to any age group, depending on the circumstances, but usually means the elderly.) I get to choose the topic of my next paper, and have decided on “breedism” , and its disparate impact on pit bulls. Seriously!

      • rebelcelt

        Do not forget communism and socialism. All isms ar eliberal incantations to change the culture. They want to take it so far away from where it was they have to coin new words to explain themselves.

      • David Ashton

        The “minorities” – non-whites, LGBTs, singleton wimmin, the disabled – were specifically identified by the Cultural Marxists like Herbert Marcuse as the new agents of the egalitarian revolution, and now these obsessions have become the themes of “education” and legislation. The Liberal Democrats in Britain, who are in the governing coalition, actually have special organizations for each of these chosen groups, while legislation, from “gay marriage” to ethnic monitoring of public services, continues under the slogans “equality” and “diversity” (sound good, do bad). Lib Dem spokesperson Lynn Featherstone recently complained: “One of the main barriers to full equality in the UK is the fact that women still have babies.”

    • TheAntidote

      Bingo! Perhaps they believed if they could rub gold, they could become gold. It is very funny in a pathetic kind of way.

  • Robert Binion

    Can you get that anti-heteronormativity in an ointment?

    • IstvanIN

      How about a non-oily, disappearing cream?

  • WmarkW

    Hey, I don’t mind someone teaching black homos to keep away from me.

  • My God in heaven. How do these people keep up with who’s more oppressed?

    • Wayne

      Fear not! The Chinese and Indian schools are pumping out STEM majors while we pump out useless immorality. A lie cannot subsist forever. These idiots will be owned.

    • SargeInCharge

      They keep up by running to their college’s “microtransgressions” webpage to read and record even the most miniscule perceived slight…

      “A microaggression is a brief and commonplace daily verbal, behavioral, or environmental indignity, whether intentional or unintentional, that communicates a hostile, derogatory, or negative slight or insult toward people of non-dominant identities. Microaggressions are symptomatic of a larger culture of pervasive stereotypes and manifestations of privilege.”

      Here’s Oberlin College’s Microtransgression webpage…

      http://obiemicroaggressions.tumblr.com/

      • MBlanc46

        Oy.

      • Hahaha. It’s too ridiculous to not be funny. I feel like we should be keeping score. Does the most oppressed group then have to confess that distinction as a privilege and go back to the top of the list of The Oppressed?

      • sbuffalonative

        It reminds me of a true story in which a women wearing alluring clothing received an unwanted comment from a male and described it as a “mini rape”.

      • Wayne

        Thanks for the link! It was so entertaining I read all the comments. Besides being hilarious and pitiful, many are downright scary–particularly the constant busybody style tattling. These are the types that would have been at home in Stalinist Russia.

  • The__Bobster

    Wow, even coloured poofters find Whites more attractive.

  • I would think that a lucky couple that was both homosexual and interracial would be at the top of the tolerance totem pole. Instead, at the intersectionality between LGBTQMIAPDLOLPLPLTH and “anti-racism,” we have a big car wreck.

    • Daisy

      Did you really expect black people to ever give up their place at the top of that totem? I get the sense that whites in interracial gay couples are among the most self-loathing, but that’s just a suspicion.

      • sbuffalonative

        Because of unrestricted Hispanic immigration and the support of such by black leaders, blacks have guaranteed that they will remain at the bottom of the pecking order.

    • guest

      I read an article that explained intersectionality and I understood your comment and you used the word correctly. Bravo, QD!

      Our tax dollars are funding all of this. As SBPDL always says, we could have been on Mars…

      • However, I deny being Jim Goad’s illegitimate son. I also deny being Michael Barone’s illegitimate son. Even though I follow both on the Tweeter.

    • Xerxes22

      The top totem pole interracial couple will always be BM/WF since it satisfies the agenda of our enemies. An interraicial Gay couple can’t produce any mulatto children, Also, the MSM has a blackout on coverage of Gay Blacks. So they couldn’t even put such a couple on TV.

  • Stentorian_Commentator

    This never would have happened if the guy after whom Brown U. is named wasn’t a . . . slave trader! Just kidding, but I would not be surprised to hear that argument from someone.
    So, can we now institute classes to keep white women from desiring black men? Why should be stop that? Look at BO. That turd’s father was nowhere to be found in his upbringing, and except for Lolo Soetoro, he was raised by whites who sacrificed for him and gave him a lot. They even introduced him to their commie friends who in turn opened so many doors for BO. Maybe having his father’s name helped a little, but that’s about it. And how does he treat these people? As far as I can tell, with contempt. I wonder if his grandmother died of shame after he was elected, or BO had her silenced.

    • Wayne

      The more this continues the more I agree with General Patton: We fought the wrong people during WWII.

  • Shocked and Appalled

    Abelism seems to be the red-headed stepchild of the tolerance industry. There must be a morally repugnant reason for this.

    • Daisy

      Ironic that the black lesbian actually cited my ‘scottish red hair’ as a direct attack on her as a black person. It’s not even scottish to the best of my knowledge.

    • MBlanc46

      I believe that Abelism pertains to the Norwegian mathematician Niels Henrik Abel.

    • Andy

      Because they’re *actually* disadvantaged. 🙂 (Although apparently it’s wrong to admit being blind, etc is inconvenient.

  • Luca

    If they want to learn how to control their urges maybe they should have a workshop on “de-queering” themselves. Let’s have an open discussion on how queers are either products of a hormonal birth defect or some severe mental/emotional trauma. I mean, isn’t it good to promote some dialogue in the community and have some healing inclusive free speech??

    • a multiracial individual

      The cause of sexual orientation is somewhat of a mystery. fMRI reveals that the suprachiasmatic nucleus, which is the area of the brain associated with circadian rhythms, is twice as large in gay males as opposed to heterosexual males.

      • Bill

        So what? Same academia comes up with that crap as the academia who came up with the main topic.

        • a multiracial individual

          I beg your pardon?

          • Morris LeChat

            not granted

      • Defoe

        Does that mean gays think it is always night or always day?

        • Morris LeChat

          always a sunny day with a rainbow, balloons, bunny rabbits and plenty of bushes

      • rebelcelt

        That is one small study by some gay guy. I do not trust that at all.

        • Morris LeChat

          a small stubby gay guy? Yeah, I wouldn’t trust him either

      • Morris LeChat

        give it a rest

      • Morris LeChat

        no, it is not a mystery, it is only a mystery to those that want to attribute it to genetics but they have not found the evidence for it. There is plenty of evidence that the presence of fathers is vitally important to the healthy development of a masculine identity. It is no mystery that sexuality attraction is always focused on oppositeness. A male with a healthy masculine identity is attracted to femininity. A female with a healthy feminine identity is attracted to masculinity. When males do not develop a masculine identity , they are attracted to masculinity. All children first identify with the mother. The male child needs to have an adult male presence in order for him to separate his identity from his mother and form a masculine identity. Different children are born with different temperaments. Some male children are more sensitive to an actual or a perceived rejection by a father figure that would send them back to the mother as a source of their identity. The evidence for this is real and substantial and has been mentioned in other posts. One further point. Male homosexuals greatly outnumber female homosexuals. This is because the female identity is already present- that being the identifying with the mother. It can be confused at times when the mother harbors secret resentments and hostility towards the father and expresses this by trying to be more masculine and stronger than the father.

    • Bill

      Yup. That would be my suggestion also. But see how far this country has come. Used to be shame involved (and rightfully so) in being a queer. Now in our “enlightened” age we are supposed to cry because of a disparity as to who queers go with????? And have studies (at tax payer and alumnus expense) as to how many queers are going with other queers and the racial breakdown? So we can fix the problem and make queers feel better? Give me a break.

    • jane johnson

      Yes, they should have it in Philadelphia.

    • Daisy

      Luca what does that have to do with black gay people barging into white gay people’s space (the article actually calls for this as the strategy for somehow negating black gays’ lust for white gays)?

      • Luca

        I am being facetious. They will never discuss the fact that they are dysfunctional deviants. They are in your face, shouting about how normal they are, flaunting their lifestyle and portraying the victim role. I’m saying we should be talking about something else, not their urges for Whites but their urges for same sex. Sometimes my sarcasm goes astray.

        • Daisy

          I don’t get denigrating gays other than decrying their forays into anti-white mongering. However, the transsexuals are another matter…

          • It’s one thing if one wants to have a good time “identifying” with the other gender and wearing its clothes. But where they go too far is when the TS/TG crowd wants to use restrooms, locker rooms and showers of the gender they “identify” with instead of the one they were born with.

            We’re getting in a situation where the only social justice-y correct solution to this thorny issue is everyone gets in one big shower.

          • Daisy

            Well QD you’re finally the liberal on this one compared to me. A good time is not charging the tax payers and insurance pool contributors for a $12,500+ makeover. I could have a good time using that for cosmetic surgery.

          • Want me to keep my temporary liberal streak alive for just one more AR comment? Okay, here goes:

            My personal care-o-meter over the non-troversy of these sex seminars and sex weeks on these college campuses, such as those described in this article, is just about zero. I mean, c’mon, post-pubescent individuals have been talking about sex ever since the dawn of spoken language and will continue to do so until the end of time. What are these “sex weeks” on colleges but adults talking about adult material?

            Now, with that having been said, let’s send Jared Taylor to Brown University to have a workshop on race. Or David Codrea there to have a workshop on firearms. You know the usual suspects will throw a fit. The same adults who are adult enough to talk about every sexual act known to man/woman/transgender/transsexual will all of a sudden be said to be too immature to handle either sociological research about racial differences in IQ or those dastardly ranch rifles with fancy plastic decorations.

          • Daisy

            The trans agitators are the absolute most hard-core anti-white mongers in both the ‘queer’ alphabet soup and possibly even the whole left, with the exception of maybe certain elements of the blacks. They are as determined to attack whites as they are their own genitalia.

          • Luca

            Who’s denigrating gays? These are militant, gay, Liberal Nazi’s. If I were criticizing the KKK would you say I am denigrating Whites?

            If a person is gay, I believe they can’t help it, and should not be discriminated against. But anyone from a group like this that is purposely making a spectacle of themselves, ridiculing normal values, and denigrating White people for the purpose of cheap theatrics and spreading propaganda, well, they deserve criticism. They are just an apparatus of the Liberal cancer that is spreading across this country and it’s more about being a militant and “in your face” than it is about serious issues.

        • Chicago Gay

          It has been my experience that White gays are by far the most deviant (and sexually experimental) of all groups.

          • NM156

            Queers at Boys Town bars are some of the most well-scrubbed I’ve seen anywhere in the city, particularly the after-work crowd. They look like Banana Republic models. Do looks deceive?

        • Morris LeChat

          there is a very interesting book on the subject called “reparative Therapy”. It’s thesis is that at some crucial period in a male child’s development the presence of, and affection by a father is very important. Up to this point a child’s identity is confused with the mother. The male child needs a male adult in order to develop his own masculine identity. The father helps the child break away from the mother. The male child has the inborn desire to do so but few male children can manage to do it without a male presence in the home. What happens to male adult homosexuals is that they are trying to consume masculinity that they see in other males, in order to fill what they feel is absent. They are in effect trying to self repair. Feeling that he lacks masculinity, a gay male will be attracted to what he feels is the opposite of himself. Heterosexuals are attracted to opposite, all sexuality is an attraction to an opposite. This is why gay sexuality is not a normal healthy sexuality. Gay unions are not complimentary the way male and female unions are. They quickly find that what they are seeking, masculinity, is absent in the other gay male, and the relationship soon ends. The minute they see their partner as being non masculine, they lose all interest. This is something they did not see before as they idealized the other, based on certain features. They are chasing an image in their head of the ideal form of masculinity they seek and they project it onto others, then familiarity soon forces them to see the real person and that’s the end. This is why gay love is not really love, they do not really see the other person, they project onto them what they want.

    • MBlanc46

      I believe that what you’ve just said is “hate speech”.

  • NorthernWind

    These kinds of people are a joke but they’re too deluded to realize it. How can you not be amused by their stupidity?

    • Morris LeChat

      I think this is a hilarious story. It does though, validate a point about sexual attraction. Oppositeness is always required for sexual attraction. Non whites will see whiteness as an opposite to what they are. Usually the oppositeness that causes sexual excitement is the masculine-feminine dichotomy but there are many documented instances where other dichotomies also arouse sexual desire. As for minority male homosexuals, they have a feminine self identity, for them males are an opposite, but that is compounded when they encounter white males, then there are TWO opposites to themselves, and that multiplies the attraction. No amount of talking or group therapy will remedy this. They would have to develop masculine identities, and then they would not be attracted to men. As long as they choose a gay identity, they will be miserably pursuing white men who want nothing to do with them.

  • JackKrak

    So when is the workshop for black males to “work past their sexual attraction to Caucasian” women?

    • guest

      There used to be highly effective workshops like that. It’s been a while. Too long.

      • MBlanc46

        I believe that they called them “l*nch m*bs”.

      • nobody

        There still are, they are called Federal Correctional Facilities.

        • Jim Bob Lassiter

          Wrong. They were called “The Old Oak Tree Behind the Lodge”– Federal Prison is The Country Club.

          • Morris LeChat

            ahhh yes, the negro rope dance, time to bring that one back

          • Morris LeChat

            ye olde rope dance

      • Morris LeChat

        yes, it involved a rope and a tree limb

    • Robert

      Actually , it should be “work past white women working past their attraction to black males” Like a turkey, white women love the dark meat.

      • NYB

        Asian females need to work past their attraction to white males, and vice versa.

        • sbuffalonative

          What I find odd is that so many Asian women I see with white men aren’t very attractive. There are certaily attractive Asian women but white men seem to just scoop up any Asian woman who comes along.

          • Felix_M

            Those Asian women might be internet brides. Men who find their true love in 3rd world countries on the internet are goddam fools. Most of the women there are only looking for their green card.

          • nobody

            Asian women have the bodies of a child. It is not attractive. I automatically suspect any white man who dates Asian women of being a pedophile. Asian women have no figure, they are flat, and they are hideously ugly for the most part. White guys only like to date slopes because their women are submissive and will do what you say. But mixing is mixing and I think it is just as wrong as marrying a black.

          • Luca

            Attractive Asian females are more attracted to money than the qualities of their male partner..

        • potato78

          Why Asianphobia “white”s are so jealous of their brothers, who dated Asian females?! Are you Asian hater and black lover? The country is almost blackenized/latino-ished. But some “white”s are still making fun of our Asian partners. Some whites are really weirdest people in the world.
          If we could convert USA to “USA”, this world would be better?
          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5LyRdV9kFv8

      • joesolargenius

        The reason for that attraction is based on programming by television in which children developed an idea of what they want to be by relating to different characters in the story . Some believe themselves to be the hero and some the villain and its the same with girls whom grow up imitating the gangster moll or prostitute . Blacks like to portray themselves as gangsters so emotionally unstable females with low self esteem whom fear rejection gravitate towards them in order to fulfill the beliefs of their formative years. The blacks learn early on from older men how to spot the ones most susceptible to bullshit or drugs and then prey on those weaknesses.

        • Andy

          There’s truth to that, but I think it also has to do with the fact that women are attracted to masculinity, and white men are being emasculated. It’s hard to find a man who meekly accepts the inferiority of his race and gender attractive. Women fall for “bad boy” types because they are some of the only ones that act like males in a time when acting like males in a decent way is not socially acceptable (and criminality is fairly acceptable, so as to reduce the stigma on blacks). I find some black men attractive, but I know that most of them would make very poor mates and that my children would be much more likely to be unintelligent and to commit crimes than if I mated with a white man. Most white women have been indoctrinated against believing such statistical truths, and to give black men (and not white) the benefit of the doubt, *and* to trust their physical impulses, so they have very low defenses against indulging themselves.

          • concernedcollegekid

            “It’s hard to find a man who meekly accepts the inferiority of his race and gender attractive. Women fall for ‘bad boy’ types because they are some of the only ones that act like males in a time when acting like males in a decent way is not socially acceptable”

            YES. THIS. I think this is one reason I have such a hard time finding a white boyfriend in the liberal bastion in which I live. I don’t find the attitudes of liberal white men attractive, and the vast majority of white men I encounter are feminized liberal hipsters that I know would be shocked at some of my political views. Ugh. I think a lot of white women turn to black men because, at least where I live, they look and act WAY more manly than white men on average. I’m not saying more attractive, but definitely more masculine in their looks and actions.

          • Defoe

            May I suggest that you start looking for a White male in places where White males hang out. For example, I spend a lot of time at shooting ranges; since I am a White male, I am not looking for a mate, but there are some single, White males who might be candidates for someone like you. I’m sure you can come up with other places some “real White men” might be found.

          • refocus

            I real good place to find a white Man is at business functions, afternoon socials and things like that. Marketing groups, professional clubs…. job fairs…

          • sbuffalonative

            I agree. Real women are looking for real men. White men have been emasculated and feminized. They’ve been told to shut up and blend into the background and not express their opinions.
            Who are the men women see as masculine? Rappers; surrounded by sexy gyrating women. How does a women get a black man? By gyrating and acting slutty. That’s the message.
            Where are the strong, masculine, white males in the public arena?

        • whiteuncleruckus

          I think the problem White males have is that we don’t have naturally large, muscular, designed for surviving africa bodies that blacks do. Because africa was such a physcially demanding place to live and because the White man used his brain to survive rather than his muscle,they have a natuarl and evolutionary advantage over us. Without even trying they have more muscle and testosterone than we do and that’s what women see.

          • François

            Not so. Living way up in the North was physically demanding, while all Blacks had to do was pick up fruit on trees in the jungle. It is very probable that a great many pf them where killed by wild animals, but they had time to reproduce before that happened, in many cases, I suppose.

            And what about the pygmies?

          • Luca

            Africans had to chase their meat sometimes for many hours, very physically demanding. When the tables were turned they had to outrun their prey when charged. It takes a lot of effort to be a hunter in Africa with only a spear. When you lack brains you typically use brawn. Furthermore this is how mankind started out. The smarter they got the less need they had for muscle because they developed tools that worked more efficiently.

            The high testosterone is due to a survival technique of having many offspring so when a few die there are many left to carry on the gene.

            Pygmies are a genetic variation and aberration usually caused by an isolated environment whereby food was scare or of poor nutrition and the smaller members of a tribe with smaller appetites and less calorie requirements had a better survival rate.

          • François

            And our distant Indo-European ancestors had to look for meat in harsh places like the cold steppes of Russia, where ther isn’t that much meat to find, among other demanding things…

            But, you know what? I really think this isn’t what all this is about.

            I think that much too often, posters on Amren will engage in talking about genetics, the finer points of the statistical data behind the concept of IQ, and so on…

            I believe it just comes down to this: as Whites, we must learn to stick together, fight for our own interests, and keep our cultures alive. And stay majorities in our own countries.

            I mean, Hispanics do have a lower IQ average, but so what? That doesn’t keep them from looking out for their own interests, and hoping for their Reconquista.

            I think a little less analysis and debate, and more action and change, is what we need

          • Luca

            Agreed. But Whites will not rally around skin color. They are much too diverse with different affiliations and causes aside form skin color.

            Most times other groups like Hispanics are organized and manipulated by Liberals, in Labor Unions, Politics, media etc.

            I believe in the end the only way to succeed is we have to rally around principles.

          • Morris LeChat

            that is why so many blacks have gollywog eyes. Eyes that are wide set. This is common for prey animals that need to have a greater field of vision so they can see their attackers coming.

          • François

            I suppose that would widen one’s peripheral vision, yes. I must admit I had never really noticed that, in them.

          • Tom

            Nor has anyone else in all probability. I hate to have to say this, but if his other comments on other posts on this website are any indication, Mr. LeChat seems to be a little off in the head.

          • Adam

            I am not so sure about this. I have seen some pretty large, muscular White guys and some very small dimunitive Black men.

        • NC Mountain Man

          I’ll have to blame the parents on this one. Maybe it’s more of a southern thing, I don’t know, but there are 5 women in my family and they just don’t think blacks are good-looking–if only because they’re visually boring: One eye color and one hair color matching their skin color. And everyone in my family, regardless of TV (we had TVs but our parents were good parents and didn’t use them as a substitute for parenting. We played outside, and preferred that over sitting and staring) has standards and values when it comes to relationships. Everyone in my family also value intelligence (I too prefer highly intelligent women for relationships. I won’t have my children raised by someone who is mentally incompetent). And placing value on intelligence automatically disqualifies 99% of black suitors.

          Instead of blaming TV, I’m putting responsibility where it belongs. Parents. They don’t have an excuse, and I’m sorry. No one is saying be strict to the point of “rebellion,” but if you raise your children right they won’t want to “rebel.” There’s right, and there’s wrong. There’s smart, and there’s stupid.

          Also, fathers. Psychology studies show that daughters are going to base their ideal man on their father. Right down to their positive relation with him even dictating whether they are more likely to find a beard attractive. Be a good father, please. Set an example of how you treat your wife and do what it means to be an intelligent, competent, and responsible White Man. Women with low self-esteem? I’m going to be suspicious of how they grew up to cause such behavior.

          I maintain that a healthy and upstanding family is never going to produce children that will end our people. TV or no TV. I realize TV is very influential in how it impresses on what a fulfilling life is, but they’re still images–and that’s their weakness. The relationship you should have with your children is more than an image, it’s an experience that will lead them to competing in this world and making right choices. It’s easy to blame things, but at the end of the day accountability and principle fixes the problem permanently. Which is something else my father taught me. I believe with great conviction that the root of nearly every single social problem is familial. And I can defend this conviction quite adeptly.

      • NorthernWind

        Do you have to be gross? You’re not even correct in your assessment to boot. Pfft.

        • Dawn

          Yes, it is disgusting but it’s true. White men are weak, black men are strong.

      • MBlanc46

        I believe that much of the attraction is based on black male hypersexuality.

        • sbuffalonative

          I agree. Women are attracted to masculine men but they aren’t seeing such in white male archetypes today.

      • Derelictus

        Vast majority of whites marry within their race…same goes for all other races, as well.

    • Popeye Doyle

      No that is to be encouraged at all costs so as to hasten the end of the white race. Homers dont produce that effect quickly enough.

    • whiteuncleruckus

      I think White women who are attracted to black guys are the dirtiest, nastiest, sluttiest, whores who ever whored.

      • sbuffalonative

        In surveys, women SAY they want a kind, caring man with a good sense of humor. In the real world, they want sexually aggressive bad boys in need of being fixed by a loving and caring women.
        Not all women, mind you, just the party girls who head out to bars.
        Some years ago, Mother Jones did a story on college drinking. They found that a majority of women who went to bars did so with the intention of getting drunk enough that they would lose their inhibitions to having sex.
        This is where the trouble for men starts. Once they’re too drunk to say NO, when they’re sober and they regret their decision to get drunk and have sex with a stranger, they get to yell, ‘rape’.

        • Dude

          Maybe these guys should just get a real girlfriend.

          • nobody

            Yeah, and maybe heading to the bar is the best way for a college aged man to do that, Dude.

          • Dude

            They should still get to know a person before having drunken sex.

        • Derelictus

          Not sure why you would necessarily trust any ‘study’ from a rag like ‘Mother Jones’ without a due amount of skepticism…but I guess there’s no reason to doubt it in this case, seems true enough. Would MoJo be for or against that type of behavior? Isn’t that just modern women expressing their sexual liberation?

    • StillModerated

      It makes me wonder how many black are truly qualified to attend Brown. Maybe they’re on the bucketball team AND queer.

    • Felix_M

      Whites are more attractive. One of the biggest reasons is that because of light and shadow, (partly how we see), you can see finely chiseled features on a white face more easily than you can on a black face. Most people prefer finally sculpted faces as opposed to what looks more like an amorphous blob. Even among blacks, lighter skinned blacks are considered more attractive.

      This isn’t racism. It’s just optics and nature.

    • David Ashton

      Could this ever become fashionable (if never PC) with support from black women?

    • Paleoconn

      Rather we can ship a few White liberal women into the ghetto for awhile, then get them to spread the message of their experience.

  • Daisy

    I told a black lesbian at the New School to stay away from me, she then chased me out of a class and threatened that because I was a ‘white woman’ I couldn’t speak in class and that no one would work with me in a film class requiring student participation because of my whiteness (I had commented in a class that women were equally responsible as a gender, not as individuals per se, for rape). When I reported the threats a black asst. dean told me I couldn’t be in the class anymore. So much for my dad serving his time in Viet Nam, my cousin dying within 18 months from Agent Orange.

    Apparently a black queer has to ‘break in’ to white people’s space to find themselves. They can fight their ‘attraction’ to white people but white people can’t fight it?!!

    • bigone4u

      Two strikes against you, I suppose: heterosexual and white. At the university I used to work at as a professor, the students were often counseled, “How do you know you’re not a lesbian if you haven’t tried it?” This Amren story seems odd to me because my old employer did everything to encourage interracial relationships, especially queer ones.

      • Daisy

        I actually tried to play the lesbian card on this one, even though I’d had nothing remotely romantic/sexual to do with this crazy black ____. She’d invited me to help her shoot a short film project for one class and then developed some bizarre infatuation with me, or had one beforehand. Anyway, nothing mattered to the black dean except that I was white and my harasser was black, not our respective classes – me, poor, her, wealthy – or anything. It was incredibly scary as I then reported the asst. dean to someone, then got ordered in to ‘talk about it’ by her inferior and he then dutifully lied about me and said I’d lied about the black dean’s racism. The New School was supposedly founded in resistance to tyranny from the left and the right. What an orwellian joke. This experience made me my own brand of race realist finally after such a litany of Diversity attacks. It changed me.

        • mike

          I feel bad for you but your first problem was not understanding that you simply can’t deal with blacks unless you are willing to accept a poor outcome.

          • Daisy

            My problem was having no access to a video camera. The black lesbian sort of surreptitiously came at me, feigning indifference, in class and invited me to help her on her project. We then did a longer segment and submitted it as a joint project. That was in the beginning of the class; even without access to a camera I avoided dealing with her after that and was just polite and casual, but went without. How are white people supposed to know how truly sick, hateful and deranged these people are without being directly exposed to them? The main stream media is completely repressing the truth and promoting lies to portray just the opposite of what’s happening.

          • Tired

            Daisy, the white in the suburb who has never dealt with minorities is most likely to wave the flag of diversity. I myself was quite liberal until I had to actually deal with minorities (and I approached it with an apologetic open mind). It is then that you realize how awful blacks (and many mestizos) are. The media has no interest in showing the truth. It doesn’t make them money and it doesn’t expand their viewing audience.

            You must remember that you aren’t the only one. Amren is here because so many of us are waking up. You’re not alone.

    • sbuffalonative

      Rape used to be defined as an act of violence against a women. The definition now seems to mean a woman in the proximity of a man.

  • guest

    This stuff only happens because taxpayers fund it. I will dedicate the rest of this post to my favorite down-low Yale professor, Dr. Jafari Allen, someone who would be a street prostitute were it not for the benevolence of white taxpayers who have anointed him a professor at an Ivy League and given him a generous salary and grants, so he can study downlow action in Cuba.

    http://www.yale.edu/anthro/anthropology/Jafari_Allen.html

    • brengunn

      I often find their writings to be as impenetrable as discussions of complex mathematics but for totally different reasons. The way they put words together makes my head hurt.

    • NYB

      From his biography:
      “mutually constituting scenes… represent a gravid space for becoming new revolutionary men and women, with new
      racial, gender and sexual subjectivities.”

      Piled higher and deeper….

      • guest

        I don’t know about “mutually constituting scenes” but Amren does represent a gravid space for becoming new revolutionary men and women with new racial subjectivities. I love his use of neopluralisms all over the place, something which is common among academic ultra-left identity grievance professionals. Maybe the Professor should write a paper about it. That would be hilarious.

        • What AR actually is is my gravid space for remaining a middle aged reactionary man with genuine and time-honored even if currently taboo racial objectivities. I guess it is a mutually constituting scene because I doubt anyone makes comments here at the point of a gun.

          Now, where did I put that cigar?

      • So he goes to Cuba and watches a bunch of Spanish speaking black gays living under an octoroon despot have sex, hustle cigars, play cards and listen to hip hop. Then he comes home and writes a book about it…insto-chango, tenure.
        There truly is one born every minute.

        • sbuffalonative

          Sir, this is a ground-breaking, LANDMARK treatise, and you are to respect it as such!

    • guest

      I thought more about this. In fact, the reason Dr. Allen likes to go “study” those down-low parties in Cuba is because he is gloating! He knows that he has pulled the greatest hustle of all, on whites, and has gotten himself appointed (and anointed) as a professor with status and money, even though he’s no better than any common black tranny street walker. So he goes to Cuba to gloat and write books about it. I get it.

      Dr. Allen, someday this will end. You’ve run up quite a tab, bigger than you know, and how will you pay it when your credit is exhausted? This is a tab that will be paid in full, someday, Professor.

      I also figured out why these Marxist identity grievance professionals (MIGPs) go on about intersecionality. They say it means that it’s important to recognized the difficulties of people who are oppressed in two ways instead of one, like a gay black, for example. What it really means is that MIGPs have figured out how to give a pass to all manner of awful black behaviors, because hey, they’re dealing with intersectionality, something that doesn’t apply to any whites!

  • concernedcollegekid

    Wait, is this condemning interracial attraction? I thought interracial attraction was supposed to be good… is it only good when whites are attracted to someone of a different race? How is encouraging non-whites not to be attracted to whites compatible with whites being encouraged to be attracted to non-whites? I’m genuinely confused.

    • Bill

      There are a LOT of black women out there who are really PO’d that black men are going with white women rather than them. Hence, probably, likewise for black homos.

    • Wayne

      It does not matter. Sodomites can never produce offspring. Nature herself hates them and has judged it that way.

    • SargeInCharge

      Their warped thinking….

      Minorities are only attraced to whites because America is a racist and supremacist society that holds whiteness out as the symbol of beauty. Thus, minorities must disregard the evil white brainwashing that white is better.

      Whites can be attracted to minorities, however, because minorities, but for white privilege, would be seen as every bit as attractive, intelligent, and successful than evil whites… if not more so.

      Their warped thinking, not mine.

      • Black women have a “Sex and the City” complex. Black women that see themselves as successful have to have whatever a white woman has.

    • Dude

      Queers don’t make mulatto babies.

  • GeneticsareDestiny

    I had a white female friend once who was dating a black girl. She broke up with her after she found out the black girl was stealing from her on a regular basis and cheating on her.

    It would probably be better for white gays and lesbians if blacks weren’t attracted to them, but it won’t ever happen. Blacks can’t help being attracted to whites. The name of this event is “Protect me from what I want.”

    That says everything you need to know about blacks.

    • White Mom in WDC

      I could never mash with a black man ever.

      • GeneticsareDestiny

        Me neither. The idea is just disgusting, not to mention the greatly increased risk of being murdered.

      • gemjunior

        Amen to that. I think, honestly, I would rather just die. I love my family and life is precious. But I have lived, I really have. And had the best husband in the world, all the more reason it would be gross. Like remembering the most delicious piece of angel food cake while contemplating the task of being forced to eat a spoonful of brown feces. A gross analogy but pretty realistic. I’ve lived a good life. So I think I could make my peace with death. It’s totally disgusting, and God made it that way for a reason. We are meant to stay with the people he put us with. That’s how we were made.

      • sbuffalonative

        Part of the problem is that too many people, men and women, are now afraid to speak openly about their disdain for such unions. Silence makes them believe we support it.

        • White Mom in WDC

          What I do with my body is my business, including who I find sexually attractive. Who I love with my loins is not up for political debate. Blacks objectify white people, and this objectification leads to violence.Hi h r u Lori? it’s me Anna, If u remember, I met with u on metro station::)) How is it going on? I am good, hopefully everything is going well with you and your lovely kids. If u have time, I love to meet with you all in the coming weekend or someday ::)) please let me know when u available ? Thank u , have a great weekend ::))

        • White Mom in WDC

          Exactly. Look, who I want to love with my loins is not up for political debate! Blacks objectify white people and this opens up the door to violence towards whites. It is like they view us a ATM machines and sex toys. I am being serious.

  • dj2

    Is it Jews or white liberals or a combination of both who are responsible for this sort of nonsense?

    Things seem to be getting worse, I just don’t understand it.

    Back in my day I had my fair share of holocaust speeches and diversity workshops, but nothing like this even existed, even if it’s voluntary.

    • bigone4u

      In my experience it’s lesbian feminists who create this junk.

  • David Ashton

    Reductio ad nauseam.

    • François

      Well put.

  • Rational Being

    Idiocy upon idiocy upon idiocy.
    The problem with such transparently absurd calls for minority “empowerment” is that they put satirists out of business: Satire simply cannot compete with the ridiculousness of the reality.
    Soon similar nuts will demand empowerment clinics for dogs, cats, hamsters, and pet fish of all persuasions to overcome the master-slave relationship “inherent in the concept of ownership.” (I’m afraid to Google this idea to see if some empty-headed advocacy group has already laid claim to it.)

    • They have already demanded that we stop calling ourselves “pet/animal owners” and start calling ourselves their “guardians.”

      • Rational Being

        These people must keep their psychiatrists up at night. And in the money.

    • sbuffalonative

      Or as I like to say, absurd theory after absurd theory after absurd theory.
      The more radically absurd the theory, the higher your status in academia and as a hero of the “progressive” left.

  • Popeye Doyle

    What a sick society this has become. A few generations ago these pervs would have been thrown in the crapper. Men with balls walked the earth in those days.

    • robin

      men with balls are now arrested or ostracized for a myriad of things, and the media and even our laws (aa) want to keep it that way.

  • Tired

    As a white gay man I can tell you from my own experience that the sexual aggressiveness and pursuit of the European found in the heterosexual black man is found in much the same form in homosexual black men. They are sexually aggressive, unable to deal with rejection, and they truly believe that you “owe” them because of racism. If you refuse to go out with a black man (which, to black men pretty much means the most crude scenario possible) you are labeled a “racist” much as white women who refuse the advances of negroes.

    Anti-whites assume that white gays would fling their doors and arms open to any non-white that appeared, but much to their horror they found that gay whites tend to be more racist than their heterosexual brothers and sisters. In the 70’s-90’s gays migrated to what you would call “gay ghettos” in the centuries old neighborhoods long abandoned during white flight. It is here that gay whites found an utter wasteland filled with non-whites. These non-whites showed a strong hostility against them (them being gay played a part, but they hated them much more because they were white) and any attempts they had at rebuilding the neighborhoods.

    Gay whites did exactly what whites normally do. Despite the threats of the non-whites they restored long abandoned historic structures and brought businesses back. Gay groups had to work to defend themselves and organize within such neighborhoods. Eventually the non-whites were pushed out and these “gay ghettos” became the outposts from which urban revitalization would spread. This played a large role in the “rebirth” of many American downtowns.

    However, now that anti-whites realized gay whites are not to be trusted, they’ve started pressing miscegenation on us in hopes that we will vanish along with our white brothers and sisters.

    I’m so tired of this constant war against our people..

    • SargeInCharge

      White gays create polar opposite communities than blacks.

      White gay communities are always clean and safe with high property values, and almost everyone seems happy.

      Black communities are littered and dangerous with low property values, and almost everyone has a chip on their shoulder.

      • IstvanIN

        Because they are white. It is simply amazing, no matter what sub-group they divy us into, male, female, gay, Christian, even prison inmates, we are far more civilized and better behaved than they are. And yet it is the dirty secret no one wants to speak of.

        Some time last year I read about a violent, gay black gang in, I believe, Washington, DC. It was hysterical, effeminate, yet still thuggish looking. Blacks never cease to amaze as to how low they can sink.

      • Morris LeChat

        is there such as a thing as a black “gay” community? Never thought about that before but now that I have I don’t think they exist. Black gays are like blacks in general, very parasitic, but with a life expectancy that is so short that it is impossible for such a coonoomity to exist. The only one’s that come to mind are the ones that end up on judge judy, living with a relative and doing ridiculous things such as having “runway” modeling shows in their mother’s basement.

        • SargeInCharge

          Oh, gay black communities exist.  In fact, Atlanta was named America’s gayest city a few years back because Atlanta is the gay black capital of America.

          http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=122867548

          • Morris LeChat

            A quick skim of the link and I saw nothing about Atlanta being a “black gay” coonoomity. What I’m talking about is the gays being property owners, living in all gay neighborhoods, not a black neighborhood where gays make themselves more visible while they still live with relatives.

          • SargeInCharge

            Atlanta has a well known and well deserved reputation for being America’s gay black capital. Google any variations of the words: Gay, Black, Atlanta, Downlow, Capital — and you’ll see numerous articles and videos on Atlanta’s openly gay or downlow black scene.

          • Morris LeChat

            sir, there are no “gay black neighborhoods” The black gays have not bought properties in concentrated areas of all gay blackness, they are merely part of the black community but have force that community to be tolerant of their openess

          • SargeInCharge

            Oh, I see what you’re saying. I’m only familiar with Atlanta’s reputation on the whole, but not whether there is an actual neighborhood of gays. I think that you’re correct that there likely isn’t. My apologies for the misunderstanding.

          • Morris LeChat

            it’s ok sarge

          • Morris LeChat

            a quick search on “gay atlanta” . Found two areas mentioned, one was “Buckhead” and it is known to be the part time residence of Elton John- not very likely to be a “black gay neighborhood” The other is westmidtown or something or other. Neither one is mentioned as being black. Buckhead is said to be an upscale shopping district, so, not very likely to be black again.

      • Morris LeChat

        don’t forge the “track lighting’ and the “homosectionals”

    • Gay Black Man

      This is nonsense.

      • Gay & Not Politically Correct

        It was black people who revitalized urban neighborhoods? Detroit and St. Louis would disagree.

        Gay white men were definitely the pioneers of the white race’s return to city living in America, partially because most of them don’t have to worry about quality of schools for their children.

        • Morris LeChat

          He is a groid, the only thing his mind accepts is lies he tells himself, self aggrandizing lies.

    • Gay Black Man

      I have had a number of sexually aggressive gay White men pursue me. A number of them were married. A few of them resorted to violence when I broke off the relationships after learning of their marital status. Talk about the inability to face rejection. I have seen it firsthand from a more than a few White gay men.

      • Richard

        I will give you this much, at least you had the decency to not pursue or have relationships with married men.

        • Gay Black Man

          Thank you. Any morally decent person would do so.

      • Dan

        Actually, I believe you. I live in Dallas and I have seen Black and White men in certain parks trying to get with one another.

        • Dean

          This is becoming more and more commonplace in parts of Chicago of all places as well

          • Tired

            As I have said, the race mixing propaganda isn’t exclusive to heterosexual whites…

            I’ve known a handful of gay men (and a lesbian) who have all been with black men and women. All of them came to regret it…

            Racially aware gay whites (there are more than you think) won’t touch whites who have been with non-whites and often for very good reasons.

      • mike

        BS

      • sbuffalonative

        Both personal experiences can be true.

        • Gay Black Man

          Agreed.

      • WhiteGayLibertarian

        Most white gay men are not attracted to black men. Most gay men who are *married* to women are highly dysfunctional, volatile, self-loathing people who are desperate for anyone who will give them attention. They are not a good example of a white gay man.

        I would say just the opposite is more common, just as it is with heterosexual black males. Black gay men are more aggressive and violent than white gay men.

        • Gay Black Man

          “Black gay men are more aggressive and violent than white gay men.”

          That has not been my experience.

          • Morris LeChat

            The only gay that I ever knew that did black men was a total drug addict. The male version of the typical coalburner.

      • WhiteGayLibertarian

        You remind me of Engelman. Anytime there is an article relating to homosexuals on here your comment is exactly the same, word for word as it is in other articles. It seems to one of several stock comments you have ready to deploy. People are baited into praising you for being the noble, virtuous black man who broke things off with that deceitful white man who is married. You aren’t fooling me.

        • Gay Black Man

          Yes, I have mentioned this in the past due to the fact that it is true and it is relevant to the conversation at hand. It is not my attempt to “fool” you or anyone else.

        • Morris LeChat

          ahhhh yes, like the infamous “church ‘n””. Talks about jeebus and god and church but it is all a front, all a scam. Bet you this guy has raped many white gay men.

      • Morris LeChat

        I doubt the truth of anything you said. You are a negro and whatever you say is suspect. It is much more likely that you conned some men into “Lending” you money, and this is the reason why they would not leave you alone. Either that or you outright stole from them.

      • Morris LeChat

        typical black person, not telling the truth. The truth is likely that you either stole money or owed them money, or drugs etc. and they wanted what you took/owed them back.

        • Gay Black Man

          I shoudn’t was time responding to such an ignorant, elementary level, juvenile comment; however I will. I am professional Black man who will be 40 years old later this year. I make very comfortable living as a public speaker and a political consultant. I also have 25% ownership in two restaurants that do very well. That being said I do not have to STEAL money, drugs (I do not use drugs for that matter) or anything from anyone.

          Given the fact that the most of these men were upper middle class, two were millionaires) White men, they did not have to steal frm me either.

          You may want to rethink your sterotpyical, myopic mindset that all Black people do drugs and steal. I realize it may come as a shock to you, but most of us do not. Get a life.

          • Morris LeChat

            public speaker and political consultant- in other words, you are a political hack, you don’t actually work, you are a parasite living off of the white mans taxes, like all other “professional” black people. You are a nothing that thinks it is a something because it is living off of a scam.

          • Gay Black Man

            You are a sad, pitiful person

          • Diana

            I have to agree with you on this one.

          • Thomas

            I am White and I own two restaurants in the southeast. So are all White people who are political consultants, public speakers and have ownerships or part ownerships in restaurants “parasites” ans scammers? I know I am not.

            There is something dreadfully wrong with you sir.

          • sbuffalonative

            Mr. LeChat seems to have issues which we will never understand.

          • Gay Black Man

            Agreed.

          • Morris LeChat

            so in other words, you do not do anything productive for work, you live off of white tax payer moneys, you are a hack, a shuck and jive artist. You are just another member of the “black middle class” that is living off of government. You have a job, but you don’t actually work. You flap your gums, but black people are always doing that.

          • Jellyfish

            To the moderators, this comment needs to be deleted

          • Oliver

            It is these type of over the top, indefensible comments that do the race realism movement more harm than good.

          • Gay Black Man

            You are obviously a deeply disturbed, uninformed, hopelessly misguided individual.

          • Tired

            Gay Black Man, do not take my questions as antagonistic, that is not my goal.Why do you come here and try to convince us of what you believe? Why do you come here and speak of how established you are? What do you wish for us to think of you and gay black men (or blacks in general)?

            No one is claiming that every African on the face of the planet is a useless beast, however, you seem to have some very strong delusions about your own race. You’ll find that most race realists were not raised in white hoods and swastika armbands, but many of us were raised in very liberal households and often in very diverse communities. It is exactly this exposure that leads us to be race realists. There is a strong fee for being a race realist as well. My point is, please do not assume that the white men and women who comment on these articles do it out of hatred or utter isolation from blacks.

            You remind me of a black man I know (you will be surprised to find that most white race realists do not attack every black man or woman we see) who is quite intelligent, artistically blessed, and the proud holder of a couple Masters Degrees. His family is much the same, however, they never seem to get along with much of anyone else. You never see them with other Africans but only with Europeans. They do not fit in their own community but do not fit in the white community either. They are the exception to the rule and often suffer for this fact.

            Have you ever considered that you are as well?

          • Gay Black Man

            No. No offense taken. The fact is that I have many fellow Black friends. I attend a Black church, I am involved in my local boys/girls club, I am member of several Black professional clubs and frequently vacation with a few of my buddies from graduate school, three of them are Black, two Hispanic. One, like me, is openly gay.

            That being said, professional and social circumstances put in a position where I come into contact with many White people as well. I have met and made some fabulous very dear friendships with a number of White people I have met over the years. Yes, I have had made some unwise decision, not intentionally, of getting involved with men who have been deceptive about their relationship status. Upon learning this fact, I have responded accordingly. I get along with people across racial lines.

            To answer your question, I became aware of this website after the Gabrielle Gifford’s shooting. A number of news outlets mentioned the website. I decided to pay a visit and found the conversations and comments quite iconoclastic – good and bad. I myself tend to be a rebel of sorts.

            It is not my intention to try to convince anyone on this board of anything. Indeed, if anything, the vast majority of posters seem to be quite committed to their viewpoints. It s highly unlikely that I could persuade them to believe or reexamine their viewpoints on anything.

            Hopefully, I have answered your questions.

          • Guest

            Thank you for answering my questions. I do not mean to pry nor ask you overly personal questions. You had a lot of parallels with a black man I knew, but I am mistaken.

            It can be very difficult to have these conversations. There is so much emotion and there is so much to lose for us.

            Please realize that if many posters here seem stubborn, it isn’t out of a simpleton approach found amongst more ignorant persons. Often people such as yourself appear, claiming to oppose our views out of genuine disagreement, but often they do it simply to weaken the foundations of our survival. It is usually expected and true that the information they put fourth is either unreliable or wholly incorrect. They do it to spite us and not to understand us. The stubbornness one may find here is a survival mechanism. A necessary mechanism in this uncertain times.

            As I said before, the posters on Amren are rarely ones to put on white hoods. Many of us come to these conclusions of race realism out of our exposure, not isolation, to diversity. I myself have many East Asian friends (I do not say this to gain diversity points or a higher statues, but simply as a matter of fact) but I would never marry or have children with any of them. I would never wish to form a nation with them either. I believe every group of people deserves their own homeland.

            You also have to keep in mind who you are (which I am sure you do).

          • Gay Black Man

            Yes, I am very well aware of who I am – genderwise, racial wise, sexuality wise and otherwise.

            It seems that you posted.your comment twice.

          • Tired

            A glitch it seems.

          • Tired

            Thank you for answering my questions. I do not mean to pry nor ask you overly personal questions. You had a lot of parallels with a black man I knew, but I am mistaken.

            It can be very difficult to have these conversations. There is so much emotion and there is so much to lose for us.

            Please realize that if many posters here seem stubborn, it isn’t out of a simpleton approach found amongst more ignorant persons. Often people such as yourself appear, claiming to oppose our views out of genuine disagreement, but often they do it simply to weaken the foundations of our survival. It is usually expected and true that the information they put forth is either unreliable or wholly incorrect. They do it to spite us and not to understand us. The stubbornness one may find here is a survival mechanism. A necessary mechanism in this uncertain times.

            As I said before, the posters on Amren are rarely ones to put on white hoods. Many of us come to these conclusions of race realism out of our exposure, not isolation, to diversity. I myself have many East Asian friends (I do not say this to gain diversity points or a higher statues, but simply as a matter of fact) but I would never marry or have children with any of them. I would never wish to form a nation with them either. I believe every group of people deserves their own homeland.

            You also have to keep in mind who you are (which I am sure you do).

        • Edward

          So by your logic, the married wealthy Gay White men decided to beat up upper middle income Gay Black man up because he stole money and drugs from them rather being angry at the fact the refused to continue on in a relationship(s) with men that were married?

          I think you are a little out there on this one.

          • Morris LeChat

            no, I am saying, that , as usual, the word of a black man is worthless and that if he had white men coming after him it is because he scammed them or robbed them and they wanted to get their money back. You can believe his stories, and that means you probably have little experience with black people. What they say about themselves is NEVER true.

          • Alice

            We could say the same about you

          • William

            To be honest, you are sounding like an idiot.

          • Justin

            Indeed

    • sbuffalonative

      This is a very good and objective piece on (white) gays vs. blacks. Worth watching:
      http://www.pbs.org/pov/flagwars/

      • Morris LeChat

        PBS? Give us a break, we really do not care about the issue THAT much

        • sbuffalonative

          The link was intended for Tired regarding comments he made to gays and non-whites living together.
          As for the PBS piece, if anyone is inclined (and you clearly are not) to see the clash between blacks and gay, they can go to the link. If not, don’t.
          But it is a good, objective case study. The people who made it were dealing with two “oppressed” minorities so they couldn’t take sides.

    • Richard from Vancouver

      Tired, I found your comment to be most interesting. I recently read an article featured in Taki Magazine about gays and neighbourhood revitalization. The article’s main thesis is if you want a neighbourhood restored then encourage gays to move in. For many years I lived in a traditionally gay neighbourhood in Vancouver. Not because I’m gay, but because it was clean, safe and convenient. Gay shop keepers, restauranteurs and the like know the meaning of customer service and customer appreciation.

      • Daisy

        It’s mostly because when the school system goes down hill and becomes ‘ghetto,’ the gay men particularly don’t care. In Plainfield NJ there were some really beautiful old-style houses and it was a smallish but thriving city before riots of the 70’s. For years I think no one lived in the nice houses in certain residential sections, then the gay men start buying them b/c they didn’t care about the schools and slowly the neighborhoods regenerate, straight couples with families move in and re-balance the demographics racially, etc., and voila, the school system then improves and revitalization occurs.

        • Tired

          The lack of children plays a big role. A lot of gay whites are loners (or at least were when homosexuality got you kicked out of a family) and really had little to lose. There was a strong pull factor to the abandoned inner city neighborhoods (cheap land, architecture, social protection, etc) that outweighed the negatives (non-whites, crime, pollution, bad schools, etc). However, when gay whites have children, they tend to follow the patterns of heterosexual white parents and head for the suburbs.

          Urban homesteading (as it is now often called) can be very promising for whites…

          • Morris LeChat

            Blacks don’t care if two white men are living together and not reproducing and white gays probably disdain blacks and could care less if they don’t approve of their lifestyle.

          • Tired

            Problem comes when gay whites figure out to reproduce. That’s why (IMHO) they are starting to force the propaganda down our throats.

          • Morris LeChat

            gays do not reproduce. A male and a female reproduce. Gay households intentionally rob the child of one of it’s natural parents. Nevertheless. gay male couples do not produce gay male offspring at a greater rate than traditional families, so, they are not increasing their numbers. Female couples though, DO produce gay male offspring at much greater rates than male couples or traditional families.

          • sbuffalonative

            In Buffalo, in the late ’70s, there was a revitalized area of Buffalo called Allentown. Gays created a very nice looking community by reclaiming old houses. Then AIDS hit and gays died and moved out. Now it’s overrun by blacks and shows all such signs.

      • Tired

        The process of urban rejuvenation that you see in gay whites is almost identical to patterns of rejuvenation (and construction) you see in straight whites. White culture is much stronger than sexuality and that’s why gay neighborhoods succeeded the way they did. Give Europeans a pile of rocks and they’ll build a city.

        • Luca

          During WW2 after a bombing raid the people of Europe immediately went about clearing rubble and putting out fires, before the smoke cleared. Look at Africa or Haiti or Detroit. The blacks are perfectly happy sitting in squalor, filth, sewage and decay waiting for YT to come save them

      • sbuffalonative

        For more on the subject of a clash between gays and blacks fighting for a neighborhood:

        http://www.pbs.org/pov/flagwars/#.UU4UUWflud0

    • Pete

      Than how do you account for all the sheterosexual White women who willingly date Black men?

      • Pete

        I meant to type “heterosexual.”

      • Tired

        There is STRONG cultural pressure for white women to date black men. Our culture glorifies it, black men seek white women and if a white women refuses their advances they are branded a racist (which to many whites, is terrifying). We glorify it, but if you get through all of the nonsense you will find most white women do not find black men attractive.

        • Oliver

          Actually, that is not true. That is good for the White male ego to say that White women date Black men for fear of being called racist, but the fact is as Pete has stated, many White women willingly date Black men with or without being called racist.

          • Tired

            I do not agree, nor do I have much to gain from saying so (I am a gay man). I run in many circles of white women and I can tell you first hand from my own experience as a mentor to many that a lot of it has to do with pressure (both obvious and subtle) to not appear racist. Cultural images of black men as strong, intelligent, and attractive adds more pressure to the situation. There are white women who are genuinely attracted to black men, but I believe they represent a much much smaller percentage of even white women who commit miscegenation.

            Then on top of that, I know the pressure that black men place upon white women (I myself have gotten such pressure from black men). The more passive white women are the most susceptible.

            It is a very alluring to believe that it is natural attraction(it fits perfectly with our cultural expectations and ideals), but to face the much darker (no pun intended) and disturbing reality can not only be troubling to our sense of security, but our cultural morality. To discover that something you believed was right is actually wrong.

    • Dawn

      Have you had sex with a black man before, “Tired”?

  • MBlanc46

    A bunch of poofters in a “feminist space”?

  • This is the perfect example of where their (gays and blacks) agenda’s don’t mesh.

    Homosexuality is the abandonment of all morality. Thus, miscegenation must occur in the lifestyle as it is the ultimate debasement (at least in the case of Asians and whites) – submission to inferiors.

    • IstvanIN

      So a homosexual who is celibate has abandoned all morality? Just for being born gay?

      • There is no such thing as a celibate homosexual.

        Homosexuality is about deviant pleasure. Celibacy is the opposite.

        • WhiteGayLibertarian

          And you are an expert on all things homosexual, how?

          In no way is being born gay abandoning “all morality.”

          How do you know there are no celibate homosexuals? You’d probably also be surprised gay men are not one carbon copy personality.

          White gay men tend to be more open with racially charged topics, and from my experience tend to be pro-white.

          • Ed

            Some maybe, but it has been my experience that White gay men are among the most liberal group of people out there. Moreover, a number of them date and in some cases, form civil unions with Black and other non-White men.

          • Ed

            Yep!

          • Morris LeChat

            homosexuality is the burning desire for masculinity by a man who lacks a masculine self identity. It is a feeling of incompleteness and a longing for that completion, although that longing is never fulfilled as it can not come from without but must come from within. I would agree, there are no “celibate” gay men. Once a male with this problem assumes the “identity” of “gay”, it implies sexuality. Therefore celibate gale male is an oxymoron, it can not exist. To define oneself by one’s sexuality precludes celibacy. Only a male that has rejected the identity of “gay’ can be celibate.

    • Morris LeChat

      you do not understand. The attempt is to stop miscegenation, or the desire amongst gay minorities to miscegenate with whites. It appears that there is little or no desire amongst most gay whites to mix with the minorities and the poor minorities are left pining away, gratifying themselves with images of white men in their minds

      • Rebel Rebel

        Wishful thinking on your part.

  • Guest

    Im a gay man who never needed any help finding nonwhites to be unattractive.

    • sbuffalonative

      AR has posted articles in the past where San Francisco bars have been accused of being ‘racist’ for having white clientèle.
      It’s not ‘racism’ born of hate, it’s just people being attracted to people most like themselves.

  • bigone4u

    The purpose of the workshop seems plain to me: To normalize homosexuality and other forms of sexual deviancy and to engender hostility toward whites. The wars on masculinity, femininity, heterosexuality, and caucasians are mutually reinforcing.

  • IstvanIN

    Blacks, and assorted other non-whites, are attracted to whites because, in general, we are better looking. That is simply it. We have more evolved, refined features. Now, can you imagine the outrage if some group attempted to prevent white gays from being attracted to non-white gays? Or attempted to prevent white women from being attracted to black males? Or tried to stop white males from being attracted to Asian females? The fact is that these people are jealous of us, pure and simple. They hate us because we are white. And any gay or feminist group of whites who thinks they will avoid the coming tragedy because they are a fellow oppressed minority is sadly mistaken. As I always say, a modern, civil, liberal society is only possible in a white society.

    • SargeInCharge

      They’re definitely jealous of our hair and our light eyes.

      • IstvanIN

        And our complexions. They range from almost purple to muddy looking. They honestly look closer to apes than we do, and I do not say that to be mean, but it is true. And they must know it.

      • Morris LeChat

        Many minority gays shop at stores like Abercrombie and Fitch. Stores that use the waspish models that are the very image that these males desire. They want to put on whiteness as if it was merely clothes. They also straighten and lighten their hair. They try everything they can to be white. It is really a sickness, a total mental disconnect with reality. They think that straightened hair on an african is the same as being a descendant of a viking.

    • Andy

      It’s sad how many women have turned to feminism, and both men and women to being “gay”, to feel less guilty about being white. When I learned about the evil white men in elementary school, I was terribly glad I was a girl. Likewise I think that the sudden upswing in homosexuality and the avid pro-gayness of young people is largely a desire for that morally superior victim-not-perpetrator status. But, unlike blacks and whites, men and women need each other to survive. There can be no separation between the sexes, and so at some point the gender war will need to end.

      • sbuffalonative

        Unfortunately, too many women love gay males. They’re safe males to be around. They get to hang around with men but they don’t have to deal with sexual pressure of a str8 MF relationship.

        • Daisy

          A lot of them, gay men, have serious anti-woman attitudes deep down. They’re known for it in feminist circles. I’ve always wondered if they actually feel jealous of straight women, or if there are other deeper issues which seem to make them pretty hateful. Not all are like that, but unfortunately many are. I wouldn’t allow a gay man on a jury hearing a rape case.

  • freddy_hills

    It sounds like this workshop is all about bringing “white privilege” to the gay scene. I’m going to tell the women and homosexuals this right now. This “white privilege” smear won’t be limited to white, heterosexual males. Eventually they’ll come for you, too. You liberals aren’t immune to this, either, And Jews? C’mon. You’re always on the list. Gender, sexual orientation, religion, politics, etc. None of that will win you a Get Out of Jail Free card. This “white privilege” smear is purely racial.

    First they came for the communists,
    and I didn’t speak out because I wasn’t a communist.

    Then they came for the socialists,
    and I didn’t speak out because I wasn’t a socialist.

    Then they came for the trade unionists,
    and I didn’t speak out because I wasn’t a trade unionist.

    Then they came for me,
    and there was no one left to speak for me.

  • Edward

    Did anyone see the New York Times yesterday (Thursday)? They had an article on professional gay male couples adopting children. Two of the couples were interracial – White male/ Black male. They men were attractive,but the whole thing made me want to puke!

  • NeanderthalDNA

    I suspect much gay sex will result.

  • LHathaway

    “Protect me from what I want”

    I remember a great quote on someones Myspace page, “What you live for is what you will die by”.

  • LHathaway

    “There is a war on heterosexuality going on in America on college campuses”

    Well, first, it was the gradual criminalization of heterosexual behavior. No means No. No touching – No talking. No interoffice romance. Gag orders and protection orders and stalking clampdowns. Then it was marchers in favor of homosexual relationships (which admittedly are still at least partially suppressed).

    Let’s face it, it sure looks like gays are going to have all of their ‘rights’. What we can do is support heterosexual relationships. We might have to, not condemn heterosexual relationships, but march and agitate in favor of them.

    • wayne

      The whole of the leftist sickness can be traced back to that biggest of all American lies: EQUALITY. The false notion of equality is ground zero of the leftist movements.

  • Andy

    The whole “Caucasian” thing cracks me up. Whites are not insulted by the term “white” because we have not racked up negative connotations for the term.

  • Kaffirsmasher

    How long before the workshop that “helps” white women overcome their attraction to white men? And how long after they have it do they make it mandatory? Don’t laugh – if they came up with something like this, you know at least one of the organizers thought about it in the back of their minds.

    • François

      How long? We may be dangerously close to that. But I don’t think it would work.

  • rebelcelt

    protect me from what I want… wow where to begin?
    My first response is they need to be protected from wanting sodomy with any male.

  • sbuffalonative

    Of course, the ‘progressive’ left believes college campuses should be free and open to debate so long as it fits their liberal agenda.
    I’m a bit torn by the story below. I believe colleges should be open to people expressing different views but this is something usually denied to white advocates. The left has no problem silencing white advocates but scream censorship when they don’t get their way :
    C.C.C. Cancels Gay Porn Star Speech; Students Speak Out

    http://www.wetmtv.com/news/local/story/C-C-C-Cancels-Gay-Porn-Star-Speech-Students-Speak/k08JgNynM0WCb9435WtZDg.cspx

  • pcmustgo

    Actually, it’s probably only the classy gays of color that attend universities like Brown that want white gays…

    I think the homo-thugs prefer their own

    • Ethan

      The fact is that White elite young gays at places like Brown also seek out classy gays (classy not thuggish) gays as well. It is often a two way street. As someone who attended upscale and private schools all my life, I can attest to this fact.

      • Christopher

        You are correct. I attended Amherst College and I saw a similar mutual attraction among elites of all ethnic groups.

  • anonymous

    Where do these characters pick up their jargon? “.,,wishing we could have more agency in the process…be more intentional about who we desire…white supremacy…ableism…capitalism…heteronormativity…privilege, power and desire…the “Comprehensive Allyship Network…” This is the language of Cultural Marxism and people don’t just pick it up naturally on their own; they’re being trained to spew this gibberish and their brains are being destroyed in the process. I mean, if you can use words like “ableism” and “heternormativity” and still take yourself seriously, your elevator doesn’t go to the top floor. They go to all these workshops on campus where they pick up this way of talking and they seem to be constantly involved in reeducation sessions and confrontation groups designed to reinforce their ideological convictions and purge themselves of any lingering traces of “ableism, sexism, white privelege,” etc., etc., not to mention the evil desires they have for “white queers” and all the rest of it (as if it’s possible to decide who you’re going to be attracted to in the first place). They’re crazy. They really are. Crazy and evil.

    • Defoe

      Mediocre minds trying very, very hard to sound intelligent. It simply does not work.

  • Shattered

    This is a joke right?

    Please tell me that my tax dollars are not going to fund this nonsense. If I have to have money extorted from me by the government and spent toward these ends then it should only go toward helping students who choose celibacy until marriage.

    The corrupt “progressives” give not a care to the importance of assisting morality and helping moral people. Their only concern is enabling immorality in people.

    Shameful. Tragic. A sign of these times.

  • Shattered

    The latest and best polling results show an aggregated LGBT nationwide average of 3.5%. The estimated percentage of those that are homosexual rather than bisexual or transgendered is 1.7%.

    http://www.gallup.com/poll/160517/lgbt-percentage-highest-lowest-north-dakota.aspx

    Rain forests are being decimated by the modern liberal progressive media to push a homosexual agenda on 96.5% of the population that are hetrosexual. It’s ludricious.

    And the bar continues to fall. Yale hosts workshop teaching sensitivity to bestiality:
    http://www.campusreform.org/blog/?ID=4646

    I imagine pedastry is next on the modern liberal agenda.

  • i no dat rite yo

    2 apes just executed a white baby being walked in a stroller brunswick georgia

  • Pearl

    Excellent. I hope they work hard to spread the message. Hopefully, soon ALL the minorities will find whites sexually abhorrent!

    • sbuffalonative

      I wonder if the person who thought of this is non-white and he’s jealous at seeing too many blacks pass him over for whites. So he comes up with a new theory to get more black men to have sex with him.

  • Derelictus

    Holy crap…entitled trust fund brats with too much time and money and nothing to do but rebel against the ‘hetero-archy’ or what have you…but I actually find this hilarious, so I can thank them for a good laugh at least. And I’m sure more AmRen regulars would be on board with this! Although a lot of AmRen commenters seem disgusted with homosexuality…I guess since it doesn’t produce more White children and is ‘evolutionarily’ a dead-end?

  • BillC

    There are learned and unlearned behaviors on a continuum. Most of the problems of white male masculinity are the result of social conditioning. There is a daily assault on young men to inhibit naturally aggressive play, acting manly or in any way acting aggressive, all out of politically correct thinking or desire to raise children that are passive and problem free.

    When I was a child there was an image of the humble negro, definitely non-aggressive, but not groveling, because there was a level of respect that people had for other people when there were limits (social and self-induced) on personal behavior. Blacks today are more aggressive, not necessarily more masucline, than in the past simply because they are not called out for their anti-social attitudes.

    True masculinity is not merely a hyper-sexualized way of being, but requires a component of responsibility to others, as in taking care of your children, taking responsibility for ones deeds, and intentionally seeking the best in life for oneself and loved ones. Most of the male stars of yesteryear were the epitome of masculinity because their roles were all encompassing and not merely based upon the street perception of what masculinty is. The word has become distorted from its original meaning and slavishly applied to ne’er do wells to appease their egos and sensitivities. I honor the man who takes his life seriously enough to commit to his fatherhood, being a good husband, and being socially responsible. Most blacks today cannot reach those goals simply because whites continually allow them to slide on their behavior out of political correctness.

  • “This will be an intentional, anti-racist, and feminist space.”

    I’m glad that the feminist’s have been included–but as a trans-gendered Chinese and Ethiopian Muslim militant you haven’t’ included me and I am not happy.

    • donkeyfly69

      How are you not included?