LA Times: Illegal Immigration Can Reduce Global Warming

Wynton Hall, Breitbart, March 14, 2013

The Los Angeles Times ran a Thursday editorial by Middlebury College Professor Bill McKibben arguing that allowing millions of illegal immigrants into America will reduce global warming.

“I feel it’s urgent that we get real immigration reform, allowing millions to step out of the shadows and on to a broad path toward citizenship,” wrote McKibben. “It will help, not hurt, our environmental efforts, and potentially in deep and powerful ways.”

McKibben says that while the average American has a larger carbon footprint than a person living in the developing world, bringing more immigrants to America would likely reduce their tendency to have higher birthrates, thereby creating less carbon-producing people.

“It’s true that the typical person from a developing nation would produce more carbon once she adopted an American lifestyle,” says McKibben, “but she also probably would have fewer children.”

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  • David Ashton

    This sort of logic-free drivel beggars belief.

    • Bon, From the Land of Babble

      This is the sort of logic-free drivel the LA Times puts out every single day!!

      Bon

      • Anders

        I can honestly say that this is the most ridiculous ‘theory’ that I have heard for quite some time, if not, ever. What the hell?

        • robin

          it’s the usual ‘throw everything at the wall and see what sticks’ strategy.

  • Oil Can Harry

    Taking the babble of eco-wackos to its logical conclusion, we should therefore invite every Third Worlder to live in the West.

    Of course it would cause the murder of whites to skyrocket but that’s a good thing to Green Slime like McKibben who believe the human race is a cancer.

  • FourFooted_Messiah

    Uh, but people living in third-world countries have a lower carbon footprint, due to them not needing to heat their homes, less electricity demand, and probably no car.

    Bring them to first-world nations, that automagically grows. The farther north they move, the larger that footprint gets, from the need for heat for more months of the year, more need for artificial lighting in the winter, and the need to keep a block heater plugged in when the car is not in use.

    What bass-ackwards logic these simpleton lefties have.

    • I have never ever seen a justification as obtuse and disingenuous as the one in question. I am not only astounded by the idiocy of the “proffessor” in question, but more so by his backers that give him a platform. Just by allowing this idiot’s logic into the minds of american students they are furthering the plunge into madness. This supposed “logic” is detrimental and dysgenic in regards to serious academia. It’s funny the raving hysterical lunatics are called professors whilst those with actual intellectual ability are called the raving hysterical loons.

      • bigone4u

        As i was an academic myself for many years, I can tell you that McKibben will be praised by the administration, and at the next faculty cocktail party the loony lefties on the faculty will drink a toast to his “brilliance.”

        • It’s like dumping cyanide, bleach, and heroin into the gene pool.

  • Wrong. What this really means is that more immigration of the Hispanic variety can guarantee that Democrats can win all elections, and that by itself will (er, might…er, maybe might) reduce “glow-BULL (not) warming.”

  • ILOVEMYRACE

    Your grandchildren will die in the Middle East fighting to obtain more oil so that Mexican and African peasants can immigrate to America and drive gas-guzzling sports utility vehicles.

    • Mexicans drive 15 year old mini and conversion vans.

      • Bad_Mr_Frosty

        My Puerto Rican neighbor stopped me and the hallway recently. She was really excited, her daughter (she has 5 kids) just got on Social Security and they were going to get a big check. They are already on section 8, foodstamps and a bunch of other social programs. A week later I see a Lincoln Navigator parked in my driveway.

        • Felix_M

          Yup, and at a time when we’re being told that Americans have to be ready to embrace austerity, American taxpayers are going to have to shell out more dough for Taco and Nacho’s illegitimate crumb-crunchers.

          Only in congress could a person be so two-faced and stupid to think that he can balance a budget while importing people who’ll suckle at the public tit.

        • Some Karl Roverrated types already have these people figured as “natural conservatives.” The only thing people like those PRs you mention want to conserve is the gibsmedat train.

        • bigone4u

          Hispanics have no self control and no ability to manage money. The Navigator was purchased on credit and if my experience is a predictor it will be repossessed.

      • StillModerated

        Mexicans want to drive low riders. Kneegrows want to drive POS Caprices with 20″ rims and low profile tires.

        • bob

          More like 24″ rims on the clowncars

        • You forgot the element which brings them together and which they share in common: The (at least) 500-watt subwoofer, preferably 1,000. Who says there can’t be racial harmony, even though with 500-1000 watts of bass, there won’t be peace on Earth tonight?

    • Charles W.

      Every time I see a black person cruise by in a brand new SUV, I can’t help but laugh to myself at the plight of the ‘poor oppressed negro,’ damned to drive around white countries in automobiles that their own people couldn’t engineer if their lives depended on it.

  • MekongDelta69

    The L.A. Times was on a roll yesterday. Not their usual one idiotic article – but TWO. (see below on AmRen)

    *Round of applause everybody. Standing O…*

  • sbuffalonative

    The climate alarmists will stop at nothing to push their agenda.

    Remember how all the polar bears were in danger of extinction because of global warming? It turns out the number of polar bears has increased. You don’t hear much about the polar bears anymore.

    http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/healthy-polar-bear-count-confounds-doomsayers/article4099460/

    BUT now they’ve shifted to the Antarctic. Now the penguins are the new canary in the global warming mine.

    http://newsbusters.org/blogs/kyle-drennen/2013/03/11/nbc-alarmism-could-penguins-be-canary-coal-mine-global-warming

    Linking a solution to global warming and illegal aliens? Priceless.

    • FourFooted_Messiah

      That,. and the fact that Inuit are offended by bans on polar bear parts. See, they like to sell their “traditional” hunting rights to trophy-hunting tourists for around $15K.

      The environmentalists shut up when it’s non-whites wanting to kill for profit.

    • wattylersrevolt

      Buffalo
      If you want to to dissent because you have serious scientific objections…fine go right ahead. But in all likelihood you are dissenting for political reasons which is not a very intelligent thing to do. Just like Alex Jones. There are now an increasing number of grizzlies polar bear hybrids because the grizzly bear’s northern range has increased….very consistent with the global warming hypothesis being true. I mentioned the alligators. I can give you many other examples. Moreover, the newer statistical evidence only confirms the strength of the hockey stock graph. I’all stake my life on the fact that neither you or the two bit huckster Alex Jones ever heard of Martin Tingley. all I can say is end of conversation. Your just repeating the sewage of ” global warming experts” such as multimillionaire and corporate whore
      Lord Mock ton and Canadian billionaire who owns mines and would like to violently rape Mother Earth. Alex Jones is a fool to let All Gore steal the Ecology issue.

      • Jaego

        The Southern Hemisphere is cooling and the ice cap growing. A few years ago hundreds froze to death on the high Andean Plateau as temperatures dipped to record lows. To the extent there was a warming trend, it ended a few years ago.
        Also, as the data fudgers admitted, how to explain Roman Britain which was much warmer than Britain today despite the lack of industry. And the Earth was much warmer than that in past ages – as the record shows. All this without industry. Oh Dude, you’re falling for the new Eco-Religion, a project of the Globalists. Read The Report from Iron Mountain, written in the 60’s. The Globalists came up with the idea then.

        • Bad_Mr_Frosty

          Very true. Europe was much warmer in Roman days than it is now. We simply don’t have enough data to make any firm conclusions and for every area that’s getting hotter, others are getting cooler.

      • Robert Binion

        How do you reconcile the fact that the planet has suffered ice ages when carbon dioxide levels were far higher than today, that our plants have evolved during those eons and are almost starved for it now? That’s why greenhouses are pumped full. I will make an absurd argument and you will tell me where I’m wrong: some Russian scientists believe that oil reserves are the result of an abiotic process of simple chemistry under extreme geologic pressure. And since by far most of the oil that dirties the sea leaks from these natural Texaco springs, wouldn’t it be wise to drill for it (cleanly without spillage, of course) and burn it harmlessly into the atmosphere? Couldn’t we say that nothing cleans the globe more effectively than a Chevy 357? More CO2 would mean more flora and more food for bugs. Down South, we drive at night to smash them on our windshields lest they eat us alive. But we don’t kill eagles as your wind turbines do.

      • sbuffalonative

        I don’t depend on Alex Jones for my information, nor do I listen to Limbaugh or Hannity.

        I knew I would cause controversy with my comment but I was only trying to show the tactics the left uses to link anything to anything. When the polar bear population was shown to be growing, the extremists found another alleged problem. I don’t know if the penguins are disappearing but animal populations rise and fail all the time. You can’t say penguins are disappearing and then jump to the conclusion that it’s proof of global warming.

        For the record, I love the environment. I love breathing clean air and drinking clean water. I love polar bears (at a distance) and penguins. I love my cardinals, black capped chickadees, and nuthatches which I keep well fed.

        I know this won’t change your mind but you may find this piece interesting:

        http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2294560/The-great-green-1-The-hard-proof-finally-shows-global-warming-forecasts-costing-billions-WRONG-along.html

  • bigone4u

    Better idea, Professor: Let the immigrant woman stay in her own country and have fewer children there. That way, dummy, there’s no environmental impact on America. Another great idea I just had, prof: Buy a ticket to a third world country and start preaching the message of fewer children. That would spare your students from having to listen to your nonsense.

    • Let’s see, they can stay in Mexico or Africa in live in, respectively, mud and stick huts without electricity, but if they come here and move into a home with electricity and get and automobile and they help America “will reduce global warming“, because they will “adopt American values” and have less children.

      Is Middlebury College Professor Bill McKibben a f*cking idiot?

      • No he is just blatantly dishonest.

        • Michael_C_Scott

          Both of the above.

        • Jack’s War

          The crime is White genocide and they will say ANYTHING to justify it.

  • The__Bobster

    http://www.vdare.com/posts/bill-mckibben-the-government-must-elect-a-new-people-now-for-the-climate

    The average Mexican in Mexico emits 22% as much carbon per capita as the average resident of America, and Mexico is, by Third World standards, a fairly affluent, car-crazy country that subsidizes gasoline prices. People in Central American countries emit substantially less carbon per capita than Mexicans.

    Either illegal aliens and their descendants, are going to fail to assimilate economically to America, which means they and their’s will be a net tax burden, or they will assimilate economically and emit vastly more carbon than if they had stayed in their own country. Which is it?

    but she also probably would have fewer children.

    That’s 180 degrees backwards. The total fertility rate for Mexicans-born women in America has been higher than for Mexican women in Mexico for several decades now. The birthrate is extremely high for new immigrant women in the years right after they arrive in America. Thus, during the big Housing Bubble influx of immigrants, the TFR of foreign-born Hispanic women in California was 3.7 in 2005. The TFR in Mexico is 2.32. One reason Mexicans move to the United States, besides their hopes of buying V8 vehicles and big houses with airconditioning, is to have the extra babies they can’t afford to have in their own country.

    McKibben lives as far from Mexican immigrants as he can get in the continental U.S. Perhaps there is a political lesson for us all in his behavior

    • Monello

      They have anchor babies, hoping to not get deported when they are caught. Many get pregnant as soon as they get here. Once the child is born they apply for a US passport for the kid.

    • Salarino

      You seem much more knowledgable on the topic than myself sir, but I had also heard that the Mexicans who come here now are generally pretty far down the totem pole in Mexican society. Basically that Mexico is happy to have them be the States’ problem now.

      • Greg Thomas

        Why wouldn’t they be happy to dump their undesirables on us? Illegal invaders send billions of dollars in remittances to mexico each year. We are mexico’s welfare system.

  • wattylersrevolt

    Bill McKibben must be insane. His beloved Adirondacks will be invaded and infested with high fertility hispanics,asians, and muslims, and as a consequence, paved over with asphalt and cesspools. I mean, what he is advocating is hyper-exponential population growth and the complete destruction of all the ecological amenities in America that make life worth living in America. There will be 20-50 year waiting lists to get a peak at Lake George..the NYS Throuway will be turne into a giant parking lot.
    So what is going on here? Mckibben is another liberal who won’t feel validated as a liberal unless Native Born White Americans are 1)rapidly reduced to a racial minority within the borders of America and 2)are violently persecuted by nonwhites.
    Mckibben is just a phony environmentalist. Adapting to the American Lifestyle means driving a car and chopping down trees for surburban tracks.
    In the mall the other day I saw a Chinese family of nine including the parents. Mckibbens agenda is race-replacement..this is much more important than protecting the environment.
    By the way, if the situation was exactly as Mckibben lays it out…import millions of high fertility nonwhites and the corresponding racial minority status for Native Born White Americans or the very nasty consequences of Global Warming..I would choose Global Warming and the collapse worldwide of human civilization.
    Global Warming is a fact despite what some pinheads who listen to Alex Jones will say. The evidence for it is now overwhelming on so many levels. The only question is what we should do to slow it down and reverse it. Very large Alligators can now be seen sunbathing much further North in Virginia in a lattitude in which they have never been seen before. Global Warming denialists are bat….. crazy..they are the mirror image of the crazy McKibben.

    • I have never seen a liberal so depraved and above reproach as this particular environMENTAList clown. How can one even justify ethnic suicide with the supposed potential of lowering our “carbon footprint.” How exactly is creating more gas guzzling westernized non whites who could care less about the “environment” beneficial to their cause? Once again the left is searching for any form of justification for massive non white immigration inside of every political nook and cranny. The “culturally beneficial” argument is only believed by those ignorant of their crime and their incompatibility with the west. They are destroying our country and all the Left can do is talk about carbon footprints and ethnic restaurants? As if ethnic suicide of whites is a desired byproduct in combating global warming OOPS I meant “Climate Change.”

      Since when did environmentalists adopt an anti white standpoint? Since when is anti white policy advantageous to saving the environment?

      • wattylersrevolt

        Simple and obvious answer:they are fake environmentalist….and they are hardcore race-replacement enthusiasts. They get away with this massive deception because the White Right allowed the left to steal the environmental-ecology issue.

        • Bad_Mr_Frosty

          A watermelon, Green on the outside, (Soviet) Red on the inside.

        • Jack’s War

          Race replacement doesn’t adequately describe the seriousness of the situation. It is genocide, and it is a crime.

    • wattylersrevolt

      Why does Bill McKibben want to destroy the Adirondacks? Bill Mckibben:because I want to halt global warming! Wattylersrevolt:Bill Mckibben…you be bat…. crazy man!!!!!!!!!!!!

      • wattylersrevolt

        For those of you who don’t know…Bill Mckibben is a Haaaavad educated writer who lives in the Adirondacks.

  • They don’t become us, we become them!

  • Extropico

    If you tell Mexico that they can all come here on our taxpayer dime, that will actually delay the maturation of Mexican society and cause them to have more babies. Reality is 180 degrees opposite of what the LA Times alleges. That “relief valve” we have provided to the Third World has actually caused a higher population growth here and there. Always follow the money… that is what the newspaper is trying to vector.

  • New Rise

    This is what you call a false choice.

  • Bill

    That is the LAMEST excuse for letting more stubbies in to our country I’ve ever heard.

  • MobyWhite

    White people will actually believe this.

    Re education, it’s not that black aren’t as smart as Whites, they just must hear something more times than Whites before they believe it.

    Tell Whites something that leans left, and by they time they’ve heard it three times, they embrace it like a Religion.

  • YT

    that may be the stupidest headline I’ve seen in a week or two

  • YT

    mexicans love refried beans, all kinds of beans. Studies have shown that mexicans emit 72% more methane and other destructive gases than the average 500 pound cow.

  • cecilhenry

    So we are responsible for their actions???– classic third world thinking.

    OF course the fact that is leads to white genocide if never considered or mentioned.

    • Bon, From the Land of Babble

      The LA Times is a Third World paper!!

      Bon

    • Jack’s War

      Does a criminal ever own up to their crimes until they are caught and reprimanded? Then it is usually crocodile tears. They will have to be forced to own up to their attempt and promotion of genocide.

  • Bon, From the Land of Babble

    According to the LA Times, we should just let everyone in from the Third World, no questions asked.

    According to their twisted logic, this will solve two issues:

    No more global warming.

    Less unemployment and better standard of living for everyone.

    Now do you understand why the LA Times is going out of business?? (it’s up for sale at the moment).

    Do not mourn the demise of the print media!!

    Bon

    • Michael_C_Scott

      I’ve hated the print media for decades, but after I read the phrase “all of a sudden” in what purported to be an otherwise serious article, I began to positively revel in the collapse of newspapers.

      For an amusing lesson in how far down the print media has sunk, read a recent issue of Time magazine in your local library. I was simply stunned that people pay hard-earned money for that rag.

  • Greg Thomas

    Why would they produce less spawn when our government rewards them for their reckless breeding habits? Amnesty for illegal invaders has been touted as a fix for all the countries ills. These traitors will say anything to get their amnesty passed.

  • Jaego

    Wait, is the first part even true? Do they have fewer children when they come to America? I’ve heard they have more. Sure after a couple of generations they might become middle class and stop having as many. But our middle class is dying so is that likely now?

    • Unperson

      Wait, is the first part even true? Do they have fewer children when they come to America? I’ve heard they have more.

      You are correct: they have MORE children per family (or “family”, considering their >50% rate of bastardy) in America than they do in Mexico. AmRen has covered this; maybe someone could provide the link. The figures I seem to recall are an average of 2.3 kids in Mexico, but 3.7 for those who’ve jumped the fence. AR’s (perfectly plausible) take on this under-reported phenomenon of wetback hyper-fertility was that, once stelled in Gringoland, the mestizos’ increased material wealth led them to “celebrate” their newfound prosperity by having more kids.

      …Which means this Prof McKibben is logic-challenged and his theory is rampant foolishness: the (easily researched) facts of the matter tell us that Third Worlders in First World countries will bring greater harm to the environment: there is no way that MORE people having MORE children and therefore consuming MORE resources could possibly result in LESS eco damage. It’s amazing that someone can even get serious press attention for stating something so obviously false.

      • Sailer’s theory is that they’re homesick, so they compensate by having more children. The corollary to that theory is that once they settle in, then their TFR reverts to about the average of their co-ethnics/co-racials back in the old country.

  • fakeemail

    First, global waring/climate change/the sky is falling is a total and complete LIE. Second, Mexicans did, are, and will populate like cucarachas in America. And what’s more, they’re a helluvalot less “environment friendly” than the SWPL whites who would be mortified if anyone saw them not throw away a hanky in the wastebasket.

    Two colossal lies simultaneously! Nice work, liberals!

  • concernedcollegekid

    GUYS. YOU GUYS: I thought of something. So like, the conclusion “illegal immigration can reduce global warming”… when you think about it, someone could have been, like, politically motivated to come up with that conclusion, right? So maybe there could have been some bias in their reasoning leading to it, or something, right? Like, say they were already in favor of more immigration and against global warming. They might be, like, inclined to use flawed reasoning to lead them to the conclusion that more immigration could somehow reduce global warming. Especially if they were, like, already some sort of professor and knew people would listen to them or whatever.

    Yup, apparently the LA Times doesn’t think people are smart enough to figure that out…

  • Zackersman

    This article is actually interesting. It’s surprising it’s taken them so long (as far as I know) to manufacture a (most likely) bogus rational. What it doesn’t take into account, is that as dense populations move into less populated areas. . it only provide incentives and breathing room for them to return to their densely populated lives. At least, that’s my made up excuse. Haven’t used that one in awhile.

  • Zackersman

    “it only provide incentives and breathing room for them to return to their densely populated lives”. Thus increasing the total population.

  • Zackersman

    “The LA Times is a Third World paper!!”

    Isn’t every big city newspaper. When can we have our own papers. Ones that are not explicitly covering for brown but also pro-brown: Newspapers that are pro-white. Newspapers in all big cities are ‘progressive’. Where are their corollaries in the suburbs and rural areas? but pro-white?

    • Michael_C_Scott

      Isn’t this one of them?

  • ConcernedYoungAmerican

    This is almost as bad as the Libertarian writing in Forbes that we NEED open borders and NEED to apologize to illegals because “he sees the face of his ancestors in them.” I just hope that the average person reading articles like these [correctly] finds them insane…

  • surely ye jest

    Only if they are not catholic and use birth control. No way Hose. They dont act like whites.

  • rightrightright

    What nonsense. So, a third world family dumps a son on the West which leaves a bit of space to have another child who will marry aged 18 if male or 13 if female and produce 10 kids. Reduce global warming, my eye! The Left will say anything to keep the populace (a) cowed, (b) complacent. This idiocy is another such.

  • guest

    I’ve heard of many stories that attempt to justify the illegal immigration problem, but this article is without a doubt the most ridiculous, nonsensical, and asinine drivel I’ve ever read. I’m not even surprised anymore that this was written by a “college professor”, considering how ultra-PC the education system is now at schools and universities.

    America’s environment may not be the most perfect (as if there’s really such a thing as a perfect environment), but it’s still been doing fine over the years without the need of illegal immigrants coming over.

  • cynthia curran

    Mexicans usually have more kids in the states than in Mexico for a professor he has not done his studies on the subject.

  • Fredrik_H

    It boggles the mind that this editorial is published in a major newspaper and the one who penned it has the title professor to his name. Their handlers must think we are growing dumber exponentially.

  • Tired

    This completely ignores the destructive patterns of illegal immigrants as they migrate here. Illegal immigrants from the third world are the least likely to care about the environment. Just look at what they do to the lands they cross. A true environmentalist supports the separation of nations. How are we to preserve our environment if it is constantly being trampled by hordes of non-white invaders?

  • ImTellinYa

    This is another example of the mental illness that characterizes the Leftist; the acute denial of reality that is the precondition for realizing any of the insane, delusional tyranny that is the Leftist agenda.

    The Leftist is generally intelligent enough to see that allowing your country to be defiled by millions of third-world savages is a very bad idea that will ruin your country. Other Leftists are in fact eager to ruin their country so that they can rebuild it along lines that favor a brutal, Left-wing tyranny. In either case, the Leftist MUST lie to us and possibly to himself about the nature of immigration into White countries by third-world savages.

    I work for a major daily newspaper and most of those people are committed Leftists of the more cowardly sort. I see evidence that they understand the disaster that third-world immigration is and will always be, but they can’t admit it. They can’t admit it because some of them can’t abandon the feeling of condescending moral superiority they feel when they champion our enemies. Others can’t admit it because to admit the problem implies that we must begin to implement a solution; that is we must deport the vast majority of nonWhites in the U.S. and Europe whether they are here legally or not. We have no real choice, and it will happen.

    But in the meantime, Leftist cowards and traitors must reassure us that, contrary to all evidence and common sense, that third-world savages will sooner, rather than later, become indistinguishable from Whites. We see this lie, this delusion, in all forms of mass media today.

    This particular piece of lying propaganda also invokes the nonexistent “crisis” of “global warming.” This hysterical nonsense is the same sort of insanity that causes a panic at Oberlin where a street loony wearing a blanket is equated to a full-scale invasion of several full-strength divisions of highly-trained, combat-ready KKK storm troopers.

  • Michael_C_Scott

    I think this article may well be the dumbest thing I have ever read.

  • Michael_C_Scott

    In related news, the LA Times is also claiming that illegal immigration will prevent male pattern baldness, cure diabetes, lower taxes and take four strokes off your golf game.

  • The Worlds Scapegoat

    Moving garbage from a waste dump to a pristine area will not reduce global warming. Allowing that garbage to get a drivers license and drive cars will not help either.

    The sooner this country falls on its rear, the sooner we can pick ourselves up.

  • steve33

    It’s these Mexicans that will help Whites become a minority in their own country that they built with a lot of blood and sweat. To hand the country over to squatters is beyond me. Someone is working overtime to see that this happens.