Israel to Define Itself as ‘National State of Jewish People’–Despite Arab Population

Robert Tait, Telegraph (London), March 17, 2013

The move is likely to be denounced as weakening Israel’s democratic principles while triggering accusations of official discrimination against Arabs, who form around 20 per cent of the population.

The legislation is being proposed under an agreement between Benjamin Netanyahu’s right-wing Likud Beiteinu bloc and the ultra-nationalist Jewish Home party, who will form part of a new governing coalition along with two Centrist parties.

It will be enshrined in Israel’s Basic Law–the country’s equivalent of a constitution–and lay down that The State of Israel is the National State of the Jewish People.

“Such legislation won’t be seen as democratic by universal standards,” said Tamar Hermann, a senior researcher with the Israel Democracy Institute. “But the people arguing for it will say that as long as the non-Jewish citizens have rights from an individual point of view, it’s Kosher.”

A similar bill introduced in 2011 by Avi Dichter, a former head of Shin Bet, Israel’s domestic intelligence agency, was shelved amid an outcry over provisions that included recognising Hebrew as the sole official language while depriving Arabic of its equal status.

It also strictly defined the country’s flags, emblems and national anthem while requiring the state to promote Jewish settlement in all areas. No such requirement applied to other groups.

Proponents argued that it was aimed at preventing Israel becoming a bi-national state. Critics countered that it prioritised Israel’s Jewish identity ahead of its democratic values.

In a sobering message for President Barack Obama ahead of his arrival in Israel on Wednesday, the Likud Beiteinu-Jewish Home deal made no mention of peace talks with the Palestinians.

The Jewish Home party’s leader Naftali Bennett opposes a Palestinian state and instead favours annexing large parts of the West Bank.

The new government, which will be sworn in at a ceremony on Monday in the Knesset, Israel’s parliament, also includes two parties in favour of renewed talks, Yesh Atid and Hatnua, led by the former foreign minister, Tzipi Livni.

But its official guidelines do not mention the “two-state solution” advocated by the US and EU countries, including Britain. Instead, they state: “Israel will seek a peace agreement with the Palestinians with the goal of reaching a diplomatic agreement.”

It was confirmed on Sunday that Moshe Ya’alon, a former army chief-of-staff who supports a hard line on the Palestinians, would become defence minister, replacing Ehud Barak.

Mr Ya’alon, 62, is a strong supporter of Jewish settlers in the West Bank but has urged caution on the possibility of attacking Iran’s nuclear facilities, in contrast to the more hawkish stance taken by Mr Netanyahu.

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  • Easyrhino1

    US citizens are losing their jobs, losing their homes as well as foregoing health insurance yet the tax-dollars of those same citizens ($3,000,000,000+/year) is being handed to Israel to support their lifestyle.
    Time for the USA to pull the plug on this one sided and doomed relationship.

    • professor

      The foreign aid issue is an interesting one and not just Israel’s handouts.. Think about all of the money that is created on a monthly basis by the fed. Now consider what would happen if these billions hit the US economy at a local level…well, inflation would be very visible to the population. This is the true reason for the massive foreign aid program, spread the excess overseas and dilute the impact with some of it returning to the States via weapons systems, agricultural, etc. purchases. Last quarter’s data indicated an increase of a few percentile points in manufacturing in this counry. This was driven by new private airplane orders. None of my family or neighbors have or anyone I know of has bought one but I would bet they were orders from foreign customers. Its all very slickly done and it will never end as long as the money is created, it has to be distributed in the least damaging manner.

      • Easyrhino1

        Money doesn’t need to be distributed in “the least damaging manner” or distributed at all. Money needs to be EARNED.

        • professor

          If you are printing it out of thin air with no backing of any kind and are attempting to hide same then you have to do it somehow without people seeing it. I’m in total agreement with you.

      • Morris LeChat

        So yo are all for giving billions to Egypt and giving them warplanes, even though the Egyptians want to kill us, but you have a problem with giving Israel something, even though they are a little bit of America in the middle of the middle east. They are the canary in the cage. What happens to them will happen to us.

        • ATBOTL

          The aid to Egypt is a bribe to be nice to Israel. Essentially, the aid to Egypt IS aid to Israel.

          Israel is not “a little bit of America,” it’s a Jewish supremacist state where Christians are second class citizens and none of the privileges that Jews so loudly demand in America are available to whites, including the ability to live there.

          They are not “the canary in the cage” and “What happens to them will happen to us” makes no sense. Israel is nothing to America but a burden.

          • CaptainObvious

            On the contrary, Israels presence has been very good for Christians. Bethlehem was historically mostly Christian for many years. Under Israeli rule, Christian numbers increased. But then the world demanded Israel give what is now that area to some autonomous Palestinian control.
            Since then, Christians have been forced out and Muslims/Muslim crime run rampant in the street.
            I have met numerous Israelis who are not ignorant of the issue. Even as a minority, they know Christians are well behaved and reasonable. Sure, they aren’t Jews and aren’t extended the “Law of Return” or anything… But most conservative Israelis I know realize rather quickly, especially in a Middle East setting, that you find out your friends and enemies rather quickly. Typically, Jews and Christians are more often friends than enemies there. Look at Israeli and Christian Phalangist cooperation in Lebanon.
            I realize full well that sometimes Jews aren’t the nicest to Christians (and we haven’t always been nice to them), but Middle Eastern Christians easily recognize that lands controlled by Jews are preferable to lands controlled by Muslims. A Jew might be rude, but they aren’t going to systematically band together and try to wipe Christians out, or crucify them as has happened to Coptics in Egypt. Furthermore, most Israelis I’ve known don’t have a problem with Christians. Especially if you just want to go to the sites where Jesus lived, etc. They realize we’re not Muslims.

            I can tell you up-front that my experience visiting Jordan was much worse than my experience in Israel. If I was a Christian in the Middle East, would I rather live with the Muslims or the Jews? I would, honestly, pick the Jews.

            And if the Jews weren’t there, it definitely would be stuffed with Muslims, the exception being Jerusalem (always Jewish majority), and Nazareth (historically Christian). The Muslims aren’t nearly as tolerating as Israelis are, I must say. So who can say for how long before Nazareth would become the slum the Muslims are turning Bethlehem into, today.

          • saxonsun

            So true.

          • CaptainObvious

            I’m tired of the lack of actual brainpower displayed here. I feel compelled to point out that Egypt was decimated by Israeli forces, before Israel received anything from the U.S. Israel was literally using refurbished WWII tanks, and Egypt had top-of-the-line tanks, jets, and military equipment from Marxist Russia. Regardless, Israel annexed the Sinai peninsula. They gave it back from the pressure of the world’s liberals (guess that disproves “zog”), not because they had to.

            I could just as easily, and with greater accuracy, claim that the money sent to Israel is actually aid to Egypt… Because it’s on the condition Israel doesn’t take the Sinai the next time some Sunni, Coptic-murdering raghead in Cairo is feeling uppity.

          • Dave4088

            Maybe you can explain the Lavon Affair, the USS Liberty attack and the bombing of 241 U.S. marines in Lebanon in 1982-83. The last incident was not committed by Israel, but former Mossad agent Victor Ostrovsky revealed that Israel/Mossad had foreknowledge of the attack and deliberately failed to warn America.

            If America or a European nation ever attacked Israel or merely stopped sending it financial aid, then I guarantee the Jews of Israel would retaliate by persecuting and killing Christians in Israel with a ferocity that equals that of the Sunni Muslims.

          • Morris LeChat

            so you want to give money to the people who want to kill us. Give me a break. It is no bribe, it is money to kill Israelis and Americans,figure it out. Look who gave them the money and who do you think he wants dead?

    • CaptainObvious

      It’s not one sided for several reasons. Firstly, we’re using Chinese money in the first place–so this discussion is over. I don’t even have to continue past that.

      But I will…
      Israel has consistently paid all the money back plus interest. The money they do spend on weapons goes to….Primarily American weapons companies. Or had you supposed that when money is received it materializes things of use out of the air? (please, that’s “my obamamoney” thinking). And Israel isn’t ashamed to spend their money here.

      I swear, basic economics needs to be taught in all schools. The only reason it isn’t is because it’s just another course blacks would fail.

      …..

      I have more problems with American dependency on Saudi Arabia and the rest of the “oil barons” and American dependency on China (which is much greater than Israel’s dependence on the US), than I have problems with Israel borrowing money and then paying it back with interest.

      What’s that old argument I see here? Jews do things to distract Whites? Well, it looks like people who hate Israel and Jews are distracting us from the real issues at hand. So who is distracting who? Obviously, people who are informed in basic math and “real” power dynamics aren’t so easily fooled.

      • PesachPatriot

        Its not just US made boom sticks, tank and airplane parts and ammo…its the f word….food….israel is not in the greatest agricultural area in the world and only about a quarter of the country(mostly the north,exposed to rocket fire from lebanon and syria) would be considered productive agricultural land by american or european standards….

        the reason more is not taught about economics and that region of the world is that most of the american public enjoys being willfully ignorant and celebrating stupidity, it pains me to say this….teachers find it almost impossible to get american kids to give a fig about major figures in american history like washington, jefferson, lincoln, lee, pershing, eisenhower or teddy roosevelt(those dead guys didn’t have video games what do they know about anything? big sarc)….european western civ is even harder given how frequently the european map has changed in the last century and the non-english names of the continent. Go ahead and ask the next 20 random americans who nietzsche, pilsudski, rasputin, queen victoria, garibaldi and napoleon were and prepare to be embarassed and disappointed….you will never get american kids to care about the crusades, the british and french mandates, iran-iraq conflict, lebanese civil war, 1948 conflict or anything else that ever happened in that region while they are sexting and twittering up a storm. There is plenty of sex and violence in near east history…maybe that would interest them.

        • ATBOTL

          So you think white Americans are inferior morons.

          • PesachPatriot

            not by a long shot by americans I mean all the legal citizen demographics of all 50 states, including black, hispanic, asian, amerindian and my own….not just whites….most people under the age of 21 in this country simply don’t care about dead guys in history books, complicated economic math(i’m not very good at this) or foreign countries ….white americans are pretty awesome because this is quite obviously the best country in the world….white americans would also probably do the best in this hypothetical exercise….

      • ATBOTL

        Jews are the leaders of the anti-white left in America. Without them, it would barely exist. They have also done immense damage to America by corrupting conservatism from the inside.

        US government money going to US weapons companies should be for weapons that WE get, not weapons for a country that spies on us, steals out technology and views white people with contempt.

        • CaptainObvious

          Uhm. US money—-> Weapons companies—->Weapons “WE get”?

          You make no sense. The whole strategic point of giving Israel money is because it is an extension of our own war budget when they buy our weapons. It’s not like they use their weapons in ways we disapprove of.

          But that doesn’t matter, because the fact is we’re lending Chinese money… Israel is “BORROWING” money, they aren’t receiving it like aid… Which is what Pakistan is, and Pakistan currently receives more money per year than Israel… And Pakistan doesn’t have to pay all of theirs back. Israel pays ALL of their money back.

          Nor do I give a hoot about your paranoid schizophrenic theories. They can’t be any more accurate than your dismal understanding of how economics works and why it’s a good idea for a country to lend for interest if it’s stimulating domestic labor anyway. Oh boy, I should just stop replying to you.

          • Easyrhino1

            You are aware of course that our dear and loyal ally Israel has illegally re-exported US weapons technology to China?
            Just like black law makers care only about their own, Israel cares about Israel and only Israel

          • CaptainObvious

            Allegedly, Israel gave China patriot missiles, but that was debunked.

            Now as far as legal weapons sales in general…

            Wouldn’t surprise me if that’s an economic and diplomatic strategy of the U.S. to soften relations with China (who could demand payment and we would default, and our markets crash) via Israel.

            We’re running an empire here. So don’t be too certain you know everything about policy just because you read a blog. Especially when we’re doing the same thing.

          • Easyrhino1

            It was not debunked as it was true, in fact Israel later apologized for the “misunderstanding”.

          • Daisy

            Israel’s fifth column in the State Department has done worse than that – they have almost unfettered access to our government’s innermost workings and intelligence. Our secrets aren’t even sold anymore, they’re just given away. I’ve read several books by ex-CIA who document this.

          • Morris LeChat

            Daisy…. it rhymes with crazy

      • george00

        Israel doesn’t pay the money back. Where did you get that idea?

  • Kronolog

    The Israeli Jews are damned if they do, damned if they don’t. There’ll never be any lasting peace with the Arabs, regardless of any Jewish concessions; all the same, aggressive measures will only kindle more hatred and zeal in the Arabs without really changing the final outcome. It’s a game of numbers, and the Jews are losing.

    • Katherine McChesney

      I believe the Arabs will lose in the long run. I am cheering for Israel.

      • Paleoconn

        I am cheering for both to obliterate each other, so the world can get on with their lives. And I want no American soldier to have anything to do with either of them.

        • The__Bobster

          I’m hoping our 6 million will join their 6 million first. Then turn the whole region into a huge glass bowl.

          • Paleoconn

            Amen and hosannas to that.

      • Morris LeChat

        The big question is whether technology can trump demographics. It has in the past.

        • JohnEngelman

          The Jews are quite a bit more intelligent than the Arabs on the average. Intelligence matters on the battlefield. This is why Israel has always defeated the Arabs despite being greatly outnumbered.

          • Morris LeChat

            I will agree with you on this one.

      • Kronolog

        Perhaps, tough that would require the Jews to engineer some sort of “final solution” to deal with the problem of the rising Arab population, both the external and the domestic; or find a way to increase their own population. No doubt can Israel hold out for another 100-200 years, baring some unforeseen catastrophe, but longer? I doubt.

    • GM (Australia)

      Its a game of numbers, yes this should be the basic concern on this website. We as whites are simply being out-numbered in our own traditional white nations and societies. Israel has to fight for it’s survival and existence and we should be concerned for our future and very existence also.

    • Daisy

      Not if you go by bank accounts.

      • Pelagian

        You got that right. There is SOOOOO much Jewish money. E.g.:

        Drank some coffee?
        http://www.jewoftheweek.net/2012/03/14/jew-of-the-week-howard-schultz/

        Used the internet lately? Is there a single tech giant that is not loaded with them at the upper echelons? “Tech giants” are the new “Czar of Russia”: the throne of power and influence … plus nice salaries to boot.

        If Jewish women ate out at one less restaurant per month, and put the savings in a fund, there would be enough money to give every Arab within 200 miles of Israel a million dollars each to relocate to London. Quick, think of a poor Jew you’ve met recently ….

        • Daisy

          They are the wealthiest people in the country and if broken down by ethnicity in the world and yet they claim the jewish state cannot carry itself so their minions embezzle american taxpayer money. When I look at pictures of the white men who’ve died and continue to suffer in the Iraq Lobby-orchestrated War I can barely suppress my rage. To any jews who come to argue against white defiance of their usurpation, I ask: why not take your money and ‘faith’ and go to your homeland? Ah, but that would disable the parasitism.

        • Morris LeChat

          People like you puzzle me. You think the jews have the upper hand everywhere, own everything, control everything. Do you really think that non jews are not capable? You do realize that that is what you are saying don’t you? You are probably one of those that assumed Steve Jobs was jewish just because he was super successful and smart. Guess what, he wasn’t. There are alot of successful people with alot of money that are not jews. For the most part, the whole industrial and technological revolution in this country was created by White Christian men. The Robber Barons, The Bankers, The inventors, the auto manufacturers, the plane manufacturers. I think your problem is that you have a real inferiority complex and a strong feeling of resentment about it. Christians are in no way inferior to jews.

          • Daisy

            In answer to your below question and above assertion, I can offer that any white female and possibly male, much less with an IQ over 135 or worse, 140, lives in dire danger when surrounded by jews. I think you in general have an inferiority complex and that is why you troll around trying to start fights or lecturing everyone about some alleged lesbian satanic cult of male-child castrators, for whose existence you proffer zero evidence.

          • Morris LeChat

            I think you are a raving madwoman. Yo have always struck me as someone who is in a state of hysteria. My work takes me to many different envoronments. I can tell you right now that my experience has been that I am perfectly safe when I am with Jews, especially the more conservative or Hasidic ones. I will also tell you that I have been tipped quite generously by Jews. There was only ONE time I was not tipped, even though I did extra work, and that was a NYC screaming liberal jew. Even so, I was never threatened by the man. There have been times though where I have been treated extremely badly and threatened, and those were ALWAYS cases when I was dealing with a black crowd. So dear, I know from experience that jews in general are a very good bunch but with a few SOBs in the mix. Blacks on the other hand, are demanding, expect something for nothing, are ruthless cheaters and line cutters and liars about it all. Shameless liars, SHAMELESS LIARS. THEY WILL DO SOMETHING WITH YOU WATCHING THEM . KNOW YOU ARE WATCHING THEM AND THEN TELL YOU THEY DIDN”T DO IT! Not only all that, but blacks are TOTALLY ungrateful. No matter how much you give them, they will never be satisfied nor will they ever say thank you.Please woman, you are silly. As for whatever else it is you are talking about, I am going to chalk that up to a miscalculation with your meds. You really are unhinged tonight dear.

          • Daisy

            This from a man, albeit not one very comfortable in his masculinity, who types multiple sentences in all caps. If you weren’t so embarrassing to have on ‘our’ side, much less so overbearingly and unceasingly angry, you’d be funny.

          • Morris LeChat

            I think it is you that is uncomfortable with a strong male.

          • Daisy

            Oh gosh I hope not on my opposite side, ‘dear!’

          • PesachPatriot

            I am sorry you were stiffed that one time….my dad told me when I was younger that it was very important to always tip well so people wouldn’t think we were cheap and that if you can’t afford to tip well you can’t afford to eat out that week….anyone who isn’t as unhinged as daisy feels perfectly safe around jews….we aren’t an ethnicity known for bar room brawls, owning guns in the US, taking up lots of prison space or even being particularly tough outside of Israel….most people would rather be in the jewish parts of crown heights after midnight than in bushwick or bed stuy.

          • Morris LeChat

            Yeah, well, it happens.

          • Daisy

            In NJ I work with people in the catering business and many ethnicities refuse to work full-time, or sometimes at all, for jewish events, particularly bar and bat mitzvahs full of bratty spoiled and rude jewish kids. You don’t even know your own people’s history and still believe in an apocryphal diaspora that even jewish scholars have debunked. Well, your creed is still your creed, your actions your actions, your schizophrenia your schizophrenia – don’t try to project them onto white people.

          • PesachPatriot

            I’m not schizophrenic….not by a long shot…i’m not even super religious…it happened to be the group I was born into….I bet there are plenty of spoiled, bratty and rude kids of all colors and creeds in NJ too….you are full of keyboard courage….you confuse me with someone that gives a rats behind about your opinion…cool story bro…should i go take a zyklon b shower? will that make you happy? Too bad because its not happening….Just because your 4.0 history degree got you a catering job thats not my fault

          • Daisy

            “I’m a european but I descend through some inbred pure-blood line from Judea, or Mt. Sinai, or even Egypt, (or maybe Mars)” seems to fit the criterion for schizo. The only group people refuse to work for that I’ve seen are the jews amongst a rainbow of ethnicities in NJ. You admit that you come on here to whine and complain about zyklon b showers instead of just going back to your ‘homeland’ from which you were never kidnapped or banished, yet still refuse to take any responsibility for yourself or your race by going to Israel and standing and fighting like a man. Because your ‘god’ tells you to foist your problems and delusions on the white race is not our fault.

          • PesachPatriot

            I was born on american soil, english is my first language and i am not inbred…it was a sarcastic comment because i’m not a sensitive ivory tower academic type….the more I see this country circle the drain the more tempted i am to call it a day, and just GTFO…if I moved to Israel and start sending muslims to meet their maker I would be accused of imperialism, atrocities and war crimes by you, stealing the land of innocent palestinians and probably furthering the big conspiracy from there….raising my child to be a good person is more important to me than slaughtering guys named muhammad and ahmed over sacred rocks, sand and buildings. I have never blamed white people for anything that went wrong in my life….if bashing on me makes you feel better have at it because words on a keyboard mean very little to me in the grand scheme of things. You obviously went through a lot in life and i’m sorry about that but there isn’t really much i can do about that.

          • Morris LeChat

            BTW, I do not live on tipes. I am well paid for what I do. I do not begrudge someone who does not tip.If I go overtime, and they do not tip, then I am faced with the dilemma of billing them for the overtime or forgetting it. Changing the paperwork is a hassle and sometimes people claim they never authorized the overtime, although that has never happened to me personally. I’d rather not deal with the situation. Perhaps I am being unfair in this one instance since I never followed it up with an extra billing.

          • Daisy

            Your patronization of women is just a transparent smokescreen for what have been months of unhinged bizarre bellicose tirades about gays, lesbians, fragile sexual identity, and pseudo-sociobiology. Do everyone a favor and keep your pledge to stop responding to my posts; no one, least of all me, cares.

          • ATBOTL

            Total nonsense. Jews are notorious for not tipping or tipping very little in the service industry, especially the Hasids. I experienced this first hand working in a service job near the large Hasidic colony in Rockland county NY.

          • PesachPatriot

            This mortifies less religious more assimilated jews in this country….large families are not a good enough excuse for not tipping….thanks guys….if you didn’t want to tip move to israel and get an earful from israeli waiters.

          • Morris LeChat

            My experience is not the same. I have worked overtime for people who did not compensate me for it. I am in the novelty entertainment business, as well as being a freelance illustrator. Nine out of ten, or even more, people who did not compensate me for it were NOT Jews. Also, of the people who regularly tip me for a job well done without overtime, more often than not they are Jewish as well. Of the Christians who have taken advantage of my Conscientiousness one instance that PARTICULARLY sticks in my mind is the Italian owner of an Italian restaurant. I stayed an HOUR later, making sure that every guest was happy. Not only that but they tried to get me to agree to redo their menu for a cut rate price. I like my work, for me it is not a big sacrifice to stay a bit later, it is enjoyable. But I DO notice how honorable people are, even if I don’t make a big deal of it. I will tell you, some of my best tippers are Jews. My best crowds are Jews. If I could get my agent to book just the high end jobs so I could be free of negroes I would be very happy, It is more than just the money, it is the sentiment, the fact that people show they do not take me for granted and they appreciate my skill. Business has it’s ups and downs, and since my agent makes makes his money off of a cut of my work, he keeps me busy. I understand that. I will not stand here and let people defame those who have been good, kind and decent to me. Personal honor does not permit it. Could you let people slander people who have been good and honorable to you? Yes, I may get fed up at times with people like those at the SPLC, but I will tell you most of the people I meet are not like that. You can spread your tales, you do not go around doing ethno check ups on who tips and who doesn’t. You are only saying what you want to believe because you are scared and need to find an easy target . You want to find an easy target that you think will solve everything and turn everything around if you take it out. I think you are wrong.

          • Morris LeChat

            haredi ( The black hats and coats, sidelocks etc.) Jews, who are as poor as church mice, are notorious for not tipping. They eschew higher education, they get married in their late teens and early twenties and have children. They may have five or six by the time they are in their mid thirties. If these, and mormons, are the only whites that will reproduce then I say to them, please, keep your money and give it your their kids. I will get more joy out of the fact that the white race survives because of them then I will by spending it. Nathan Glauber was only 21 or so when a hit and run driver killed him, his wife and his child. Look at his picture and imagine him without the garb and the beard. You have an outright Aryan there.

          • ATBOTL

            The problem is we are not organized like you are. Too many of our people are naive and trusting. Your people have taken advantage of this for thousands of years. Our individualism makes our societies the best in the world, but it also makes us vulnerable to infiltration and subversion by collectivist, ethnocentric out-groups. The only solution is to play the same game you play, and that means excluding your people from positions of power and influence in our societies just like Jews exclude us from positions of power in Jewish dominated industries like Hollywood and of course, Israel itself Get back to me when one third of Israeli supreme court justices are WASPs.

          • Svigor

            I’d add that we have to exclude the vast majority of whites, too. Lefty/squishy whites will have to be excluded, too.

          • Morris LeChat

            I’m NOT Jewish. Don’t assume I am just because I am not deranged to the point that I want to see sweet children killed just because they are Jewish, LIKE YOU DO!

      • Morris LeChat

        do you even have one?

        • Daisy

          Do you really have an IQ of 140 as you claim? Your posts would suggest otherwise; there are contributors to Penthouse Forum who write more eloquently and substantively than you.

          • Morris LeChat

            I guess the answer is NO.

          • Daisy

            That’s what I was thinking.

          • Morris LeChat

            NO, as in NO, you don’t have a bank account. My guess is that crack you smoke when you post is costing you alot.

          • Daisy

            I actually read through your myopia if you didn’t pick that up; I guess Michael and JohnE aren’t the only Aspies on here, although obviously the more functional ones. At least JohnE attempts to support his claims and types in normal letters.

          • Morris LeChat

            ok, I was wrong, you are doing crystal meth

          • JohnEngelman

            I also substantiate my claims with sources I have found on this website.

          • Morris LeChat

            are you nothing more than a tape recording?

        • GM (Australia)

          Dear Moderator, time to intervene!

          • Morris LeChat

            Oh, it is LONG past that time

          • Daisy

            Whoa…a ‘strong man’ is crying out for the moderator?!
            I prefer mine with spine.

          • Morris LeChat

            I guess he thought this was too entertaining to moderate.

    • Morris LeChat

      Arabs become submissive when they are faced with a strong enemy that deals them a decisive defeat. That is how the British did it. Five hundred British soldiers killed tens of thousands of southern Iraqis at the early part of the 20th century. Then the arabs were very submissive until they saw the west becoming weak again. WE could destroy the arab world tomorrow and I will tell you right here and now how. Saudi Arabia gets 70% of it’s fresh water from desalination plants , almost all located on the red sea coast, safely out of range of Iran, or until recently safely out of range. The other 20% of it’s water it gets from deep aquifer wells. The shallow wells were pumped dry decades ago. ONe days worth of air raids and SA would be history. Those desalination plants are also electricity generating stations. If SA lost al it’s water and and electricity overnight, the end would come swiftly. It would be hastened by the fact that one out of five people in SA is a foreign worker. These workers are already treated quite badly and they would know that if people were going to die of thirst, the saudis would make it so they would be the first to die. They would not take that peacefully.
      Next country. Iraq. Iraq had a rather small population until the British rebuilt the ancient irrigation system that the Mongols had destroyed, It’s population grew by a factor of ten after that. Now there are two dams in Turkey, one on the Tigris and one on the Euphrates. Bomb those dams and see how much of Iraq remains afterwards, also bomb the irrigation system. N
      Next country, Egypt. Another country with an incredibly sweet weakness in the form of a dam. Destroy that dam and you would destroy the egyptian agriculture. There would not be a massive wave as it would probably dissipate before it got too far, BUT, the whole agriculture of the country would be spoiled for that year, and chances are, the way the society is, there would be a massive breakdown of social order, killing, etc. Just look how they behaved in Tahriri square. All of the above could be accomplished in a matter of days. THE ONLY THING the west lacks is the will to do it.
      If anyone doubts the strategy I have proposed the go research Dubai. It gets all of it’s water from desal plants. It’s glass and concrete buildings would be uninhabitable without electricity.

      • Daisy

        Bloviaton does not equal erudition.

        • Morris LeChat

          wow, you are out for blood tonight. Did you get kicked out of another school by a bunch of black lesbians?

          • Daisy

            Did yet another woman complain about your inadequate anatomy? Nah, you probably don’t even get that far!
            Morris you need among other things to grow up. No one on here wants to deal with your over-personalizing projections whether you realize it or not.

          • Morris LeChat

            wow, you are giving us your “A” game tonight. I’ve never seen someone debase themself so shamelessly as I have seen you do here tonight. YOu know you appear extremely pathetic tonight don’t you?

          • Daisy

            No, I have only hoped yours will not reflect on the pro-white movement. It’s okay that you can’t countenance authentic debate on the Israeli Lobby, but not that you react so absurdly when challenged.

          • Morris LeChat

            yeah, I’m not reading your posts anymore.

          • Daisy

            With the self-control you demonstrate on here, or lack thereof, that seems unlikely but I can always hope.

          • RisingReich

            Moderator – you’re going to delete other posts but leave this one????

            I still don’t understand your selective moderation policies.

          • Daisy

            TBH RisingReich, I could care less about Morris’ disinformation tactics and whether his inane insults get deleted, or my responses to them.
            I consider the truly selective moderation of anti-Lobby posts to be far more concerning.

          • Morris LeChat

            you sicked your black girlfriend on me

      • Vanessa

        Hey Morris, instead of getting all that blood on our new shoes, couldn’t we just as easily secure our borders? But then I suppose Israel would still feel threatened, and we can’t have that can we? Not with all the jewish relatives that we on AR have in Israel. I guess we must secure the existence of our people and the ancient hebrew homeland of our Irish, Saxon, Slavic and Teutonic ancestors.

        • Morris LeChat

          hey vanessa, wake up and smell the chess game!

  • David Ashton

    England is the National Home of the English People.
    How about that?

    • OBSERVER

      No. That is racists. And, you had better support the Jewish State for Jews or you are anti-Semitic and thus racists again.

      • So CAL Snowman

        a Double Racist!

        • GM (Australia)

          Double commonsense!

      • David Ashton

        I remember the old maverick Jew Sir Alfred Sherman saying that if the Jews can have a national home of their own in the Middle East of recent duration, the English are entitled to keep one of a thousand years or so.

        • Pelagian

          “duration”?

        • PesachPatriot

          who is sir alfred sherman? I have never heard of him

      • NowYouKnow

        It’s only unreasonable when you don’t like a Jewish State but want an English one. That’s a double standard. Israelis, especially, aren’t saying England belongs to non-Whites. You should look into the English Jews in the JDL in the UK. They say kick the Arabs and minorities out. They’re straining the country and causing crime short of the collapse of the society. Nobody actually needs them. These Kahanists typically back the English League: “England for the English.”

        Hell, some Israelis (like Avigdor Eskin) have come out in support of Afrikaners, calling them a “dying breed” and “in danger” from the blacks of South Africa. There is certainly sympathy for them in Israel even if PC and more directly pressing (daily) matters means less vocal assertion. But sure, find me some liberal Englishman who will openly say that.

        So you can cherry-pick if you want to, but it just says to me you aren’t familiar with all that much that goes on in the world.

        • Tom Iron

          Anyone with just a bit of vision can see the zionist idea has about run it’s course. Maybe it’s got another ten years – no more.

        • The__Bobster

          Jews wrote the Imigration Act of 1965 which flooded America with non-Whites. In every White nation that they’ve infiltrated, they’ve sought to dilute the White identity to make it safe for their fellow Jews.

          http://www.heretical.com/miscellx/culturec.html

          Prof. MacDonald claims that one of the most consistent ways in which Jews have advanced their interests has been to promote pluralism and diversity – but only for others. Ever since the 19th century, they have led movements that tried to discredit the traditional foundations of gentile society: patriotism, racial loyalty, the Christian basis for morality, social homogeneity, and sexual restraint. At the same time, within their own communities, and with regard to the state of Israel, they have often supported the very institutions they attack in gentile society.

          Why is this in the interests of Jews? Because the parochial group loyalty characteristic of Jews attracts far less attention in a society that does not have a cohesive racial and cultural core. The Jewish determination not to assimilate fully, which accounts for their survival as a people for thousands for years – even without a country – has invariably attracted unpleasant and even murderous scrutiny in nations with well -defined national identities. In Prof. MacDonald’s view it is therefore in the interest of Jews to dilute and weaken the identity of any people among whom they live. Jewish identity can flower in safety only when gentile identity is weak.

          Prof. MacDonald quotes a remarkable passage from Charles Silberman: “American Jews are committed to cultural tolerance because of their belief – one firmly rooted in history – that Jews are safe only in a society acceptant of a wide range of attitudes and behaviors, as well as a diversity of religious and ethnic groups. It is this belief, for example, not approval of homosexuality, that leads an overwhelming majority of American Jews to endorse ‘gay rights’ and to take a liberal stance on most other so-called ‘social’ issues.”

          He is saying, in effect, that when Jews make the diversity-is-our-strength argument it is in support of their real goal of diluting a society’s homogeneity so that Jews will feel safe. They are couching a Jewish agenda in terms they think gentiles will accept. Likewise, as the second part of the Silberman quotation suggests, Jews may support deviant movements, not because they think it is good for the country but because it is good for the Jews.

          • Daisy

            Parochial group loyalty is a euphemism for sociopathic, racist greed.

          • John L.

            Sorry, but I can’t help but resent them for this, and a bunch of other stuff.
            If that makes Me an anti-Semite then so be it. I’m not unreasonably so. I don’t dislike People beacuse They are Jewish. Just some of their organizations bother Me. Also, I refuse to support Middle East Wars that are partly in Israel’s interests and not North Americans or Europeans. .Israelis are doing nothing to promote peace, and continue to disposses Palestinians.The lives of Our Young Men take priority.

          • Daisy

            Tell that to the Lobby that runs our government, our State Department, CIA, etc.
            http://fox4kc.com/2013/03/25/iraq-war-vet-will-soon-give-up-fight-to-live/

            Read the above about an Iraq vet who’s chosen to give up the struggle to live and feel your heart breaking. So many men who don’t come home, or make it back with barely a limb; some have none. People on here say I don’t love my white men and they couldn’t be more wrong. I hate the forces that are genociding us as a people. Carry a picture of these sacrificial lambs as counter-evidence to the claim of ‘white privelege.’ Many joined the military to have a chance at higher education. Many just believed America believed in them.

          • Daisy

            And don’t use the word anti-semite; cop to being anti-jewish if you must, as that term disables the rhetorical maneuvering the former veils. Somehow if the jews can frame criticism of them as an issue of race or ethnicity they deflect and avoid the criticism of their imperialist and even genocidal creed.

          • PesachPatriot

            yes israel is so imperialist for not ever losing a war or giving the arabs the west bank after they turned gaza into a launching pad for rocket attacks…as for genocidal….not since the bronze age and do allow me to apologize for what happened to the jebusites, canaanites and philistines, it was kind of a rough time period…the palestinian arab population has quadrupled since 1948…Israel has nukes and one of the best militaries in the region…if they were truly interested in committing genocide on the pals or other arabs they could flatten the west bank and gaza from the air within a week….more arabs have been killed in arab on arab violence in the last 3 years than all the arab vs. jew conflicts since the british mandate….its very easy to be morally superior behind a computer screen in a still somewhat civilized country….your precious college yuppy morality would go right out the window if your kids bedroom window came under mortar or sniper fire.

          • Daisy

            My kids have, thank you very much.

          • PesachPatriot

            In america? gun fire seems pretty plausible in an urban environment but who is firing off mortars or RPG’s….gang bangers are bad but they generally don’t have the munitions budget of middle east jihadi types.

          • Nate Miller

            Pesach, except for the brown and olive complexioned Mizrahi Jews, who by the way, are the original Jews of the bible, what business do Slavic-Asiatic Khazarian Askhenazi Jewish converts have in Israel. Khazars (Askhenazim) do NOT share the same DNA nor the ancestry with brown Mizrahi Jews. Mizrahis form 50% of Israel’s Jewish population and they are the only folks I’m willing to call true Israelis, just like I would only refer to anyone of English, Welsh or Scottish ancestry as British.

            The Khazars were a Eurasian tribe from Khazaria (modern day Kazakhistan, Uzbekistan, Turkmenistan, Ukraine and Krygistan) who were converted by a few Mizrahi Jewish missionaries after the 2nd destruction of the temple & the Maccabees revolt wherein Jews were exiled, most of who moved to other parts of the middle east, Persia, India, a few went as far as China (Kai-Feng Jews) and of course the remaining settled along the Mediterranean region ( North African & European coasts).

            The few who ventured into Russia & Khazaria, met King Bhulan and converted the entire tribe. The descendants of the white Slavic-Asiatic mongrels constitute today’s Askhenazi Jewry in Europe and America. Basically, the indigenous Palestinians have more claim to Israel than the mongrels from Eastern Europe who call themselves Jews. Unless you can prove to me that you are a 100% Mizrahi Jew, you have no ethnic claim to Eretz Israel, no more than a brown Pakistani can claim to be English in the UK! And NO, I’m NOT an anti-semite or a racist. I’m a realist, a race realist!

            http://socioecohistory.wordpress.com/2011/05/26/ashkenazi-jews-are-not-descendents-of-the-biblical-israelites-2/

            http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/jews.htm

          • Morris LeChat

            If I knew who you were I’d report you to CPS and have them taken away.

          • Daisy

            If I knew you I’d send them away.

          • Morris LeChat

            that tack worked for Winston Churchill in his rebuke to Lady Astor, but it does not work in this case. You would only be hurting yourself. It is comical in this case that you would use that.

          • Morris LeChat

            You see now, she does not deserve your charity. I think I had her pegged correctly. Don’t let her suck your mind into the black vortex that is her life. Just disengage and get her out of your mind. The WORST thing that can happen is that she can remain in your head after you log off. Just picture her running away from angry black lesbians and laugh at the mess she got herself into.

          • Daisy

            Morris you need help if posters are somehow remaining in your head and haunting your life. Lesbians, gay men, hominids with sagging breasts et al are not out to get you.

          • Morris LeChat

            you are really getting personal with people tonight. You don’t remain in my head in any other form other than a comically stupid woman getting beat up by black lesbians.

          • Daisy

            The fact is that you started your itinerant personal projections with me on this thread but that shouldn’t surprise many who’ve called for you to be deleted and even banned. And BTW no self-respecting woman on god’s green earth is interested in your ‘charity’ nor does any pro-white movement benefit from your hateful misogynist and homophobic bigotry.

          • Daisy

            Since you successfully derailed this thread for a period, I’ll clarify that I ran away from jewish support of angry black lesbians and straight women. This is an example of how inappropriate and distracting the tone and content of your posts are. A jewish lawyer I hired to represent my interests in attending class actually questioned whether I deserved to be harassed as a white person in NYC by diversity. If you feel compelled to reply understand I write this for posters who actually think and not for blowhards.like you.

          • Morris LeChat

            Derailed it from what? Your assertions that Jews have all the money?

          • Vanessa

            “…not since the bronze age and do allow me to apologize for what happened to the jebusites, canaanites and philistines, it was kind of a rough time period.”

            One could also argue that way and say 1940’s Nazi Germany and the Russian pogroms were “rough times.”

          • PesachPatriot

            Thats fine….bad stuff happened to everyone….big difference between the bronze age and the 20th century when civilized people supposedly knew better….do you really want to compare the behavior of savage bronze age desert tribes to 20th century people who had cars, radios, flush toilets and airplanes?

          • george00

            And what does this have to do with the hypocrisy jews wanting one set of rules for themselves and another set of rules for everyone else.

          • RisingReich

            Absolutely nothing – that’s what.

          • Anders

            I’ll take the stance that the Nation of Israel as we know it, in the Middle East, is the nearest thing in that region that has the same values as Western democracies. Let’s face it. It’s the best country in the whole region. I could go on a holiday there and not have to worry about medieval-style punishment for a minor infringement.
            I nearly got sucked in to that University student pro-Palestine cobblers when I was young when I was bombarded by left-wing pro-Palestine b/s from all corners.
            Without being petty, I and a few friends could go out to a bar and have a drink or two. We might even see a Minimal Compact re-union show.

          • PesachPatriot

            what is minimal compact? I have never heard of them…

          • Anders

            I chose to be a bit obscure there.
            Minimal Compact was a rock band from Tel-Aviv that re-located to Brussels in the early 80s. Colin Newman from Wire (one of my favourites) produced their ‘Raging Souls’ album and ended up marrying the singer, Malka Spiegel.
            I traded some music with a fellow from Israel a while back. He told me that Minimal Compact did a re-union show in Tel Aviv. He was ecstatic. I think that was about 2002.

          • Felix_M

            An anti-Semite is someone who sees the truth and refuses to pretend it’s otherwise.

          • Xerxes22

            OF Course. Virtually everything that they do is based by the question ‘Is it good for the Jews’? Whether or not it is good for the country that they live in is Irrevelent. This policy will backfire since Israel’s survival depends on our survival. If the U.S. disappears so does Israel.

          • NowYouKnow

            Correction: liberal Jews did that, and liberal White Gentiles passed it into law, right down to the president, who did not actually have a terribly low approval rating among White Gentiles of the time. People thought they were doing the right thing. Who knew that blacks and others wouldn’t live up to the expectations of civilized society? Certainly some of us knew, but the Republic got what it wanted at the time.

            I question the arbitrary and baseless theory that Jews ever did this for “fellow” Jews–of which there are few. Perhaps you suppose there are more Jews than there actually are. Also, please stop pretending that the ideas of pluralism and diversity began in 1965. Some of us have studied history. I have two words: Roman Empire.

            Also, this is what always confuses me about anti-Semitism: Are you upset with Jews that don’t want to assimilate and have group loyalty? But on the other hand, when Jews do want to assimilate, it is met with disapproval. Let us suppose for a minute that the “Zionist idea” runs its course and it ends. And the area just goes to being Muslim (it’s not going to be anything else). And Jews everywhere, in their disheartened state, simply give up on the idea. (21 Muslim countries for Muslims, 0 for Jews). And then they assimilate. Is that what you want? Certainly, before Israel there were massive movements in Europe for Jewish assimilation, so it isn’t as if those times won’t return. But I just am curious to know that when Jews start assimilating… Are you going to be the person yelling, “I didn’t like you when you were clannish, and now I hate you when you just want to be White.”

            Sounds like a fantastic strategy. About as consistent and reasonable as liberalism.

            If you really want to understand the contradicting dichotomy that is anti-semitism, you should become a Christian. Supposing you are, read this: http://www.biblebelievers.com/misc_periodical_articles/mbi_001.html

            Only the Bible understands what’s going on here. Nietzsche didn’t quite understand, although he did say anti-Semites should be kicked out of Germany for opposing the movement towards assimilating the relatively small number of Jews.

      • Glickstein44

        Its more complicated than that…Ashkenazi are not the seed of Abraham nor are “jews” the chosen people…Jesus wasn’t a jew,he was an inhabitant of Judea ruled by Rome.Even the term “jew” was first coined in the 18th century by the Khazars and put into use in the second translation of the King James Bible.For related reading google Facts are Facts by Benjamin Freedman–then read Mohr.

    • ATBOTL

      Jews consider it anti-Semitic for any Western country not to allow Jews to immigrate, it’s been one of their biggest gripes for hundreds of years. They think they have a right to live in other people countries as they please. Of course, that right doesn’t extend to gentiles in Israel.

      • CaptainObvious

        As a gentile who has been to Israel… What the hell are you talking about? Why do I care about their Law of Return? I’m not Jewish. You want me to live in other people’s land, but you don’t want Jews to?
        Also, sure, it’s colonization of some brown people. Since when is that always a bad thing? Are you going to say Afrikaners should leave South Africa next? Some of you anti-Semites literally border on ANTI-WHITE behavior in your thinking… Thank God you’re just confused neurotics on computers.

        …Always complaining about the double standard of Jews when (liberal American) Jews oppose White homelands, and yet Israeli conservatives (many which I have met are very pro-White) supporting Jewish homelands…. And then you do the enact the exact same double standard. So basically, you’re thinking like the people you don’t like and begrudging them for thinking like you. The ability of some of you to use a brain is rather depressing….

    • Felix_M

      No. One standard for the Jews and another for everyone else. (Hypocrisy is at the heart of being a good j-bot.) Anyone still wonder why everyone, everywhere and always in the end comes to dislike them so deeply?

      • BonusGift

        As a general rule the tribe refuses to self-analyze but is hyper-sensitive and vindictive when it they imagine being attacked (mostly imagined). That is, they are quick with the ad hominem yet scrupulously tend to avoid the original issue or point. There is a very good reason they had been kicked out of virtually every country in Europe (some twice) in which they had/have taken ‘refuge’, and MacDonald obviously hits a nerve with his analysis. Who else would demand to enter a country (e.g., the U.S.) and then rationalize its destruction through ‘diversity’ and ‘multiculturalism’ by stating that the ‘gentiles’ had it coming for not letting enough in? Who else would suggest the Africans should be deported from Israel yet remain only in white Christian countries (actually encourage more)? Who else would try to destroy a US ship and kill her crew (the USS Liberty), steal US secrets and sell them to our adversaries, etc. yet claim to be a friend? … A country for me but not thee, diversity for thee but not me, tolerance for thee but not me … In short, who would actively abet and encourage white Christian genocide then claim you had it coming for helping the Nazis?

        • Felix_M

          That inability to see the truth puts “paid” to all those vaunted claims of Jewish brilliance. (Or, they’re just so arrogant that they can’t look at themselves objectively.)

          O’ course when a burning bush tells you that you’re the pinnacle of creation on earth and you hang out only with others who are always telling each other the same thing, it’s sure to go to one’s head.

          Pity the “chosen” have no concept of hubris. They might actually learn something.

  • Paleoconn

    Among White countries, only Israel is allowed to do this. and if you condemn them, you’re an anti-Semite. Their cousins in the USA would be the first to condemn anybody calling America a White, Anglo-Saxon Nation.

    • Mr Bork

      Israel isnt a white country. Last time i checked, jews were middle eastern in origin and Israel was right next to Egypt. You americans are so lost that you cant even recognize whos white and whos not. Do you consider gypsies indigenous “white” europeans because they have happened to chose to squat in Europe while not being black?

      • Concerned Christian

        They’re Middle Eastern, yeah. But they’re whiter than Arabs. And White is often based on skull shape and structure (they have a “nose sill” like every European). The Islamic conquest brought Arab DNA to Byzantium, where before it was generally contained within the Arabian peninsula. There is a genetic difference between Middle Easterners who predate Islam and those who come after the 7th century.

        You can see it in some Syrians. Assad is Whiter than many Italians and Spaniards. Because Assad has more in common with Byzantines/ancestral Syrians than Arabs–like Jews do.

        If you recall, quite a few Jews were described in the Bible as having red hair even. King David was described as having red hair. (In Medieval Italy, red hair was associated with Italian Jews. Jews would be depicted in Italian and Spanish art as having red hair. Only in the Anglosphere, where we are familiar with Scots, Irish, and many Scandinavians, did this characterization of Jews not persist as much. Although Jewish characters in Shakespeare were still identified with red hair. And in Dickens).

        Now how many Arabs do you know with red hair? Possibly some Lebanese and Syrians… But again those ones wouldn’t be Arabs (racially), those are other people in the Levant who still have some pre-Arab-conquest DNA. Are all Middle Easterners non-White? No… Particularly because “Middle Eastern” isn’t a race. So you’re right that genetic tests have traced 30-60% of Ashkenazi DNA to the Middle East… That doesn’t necessarily mean anything. Just proves the Bible… And so what if they have some white/pre-Islamic-conquest features? That would just make sense.

      • Paleoconn

        You’re right. I meant Western countries, ie. 1st world, non-Asian. And your hostile, over-generalization on Americans is a little bit much don’t you think. Lots of anger, chill Mr. Bork.

  • What’s mine is mine . What’s yours needs to be multi cultural.

    I don’t have a problem with Jews wanting Israel to be a Jewish ethno state, just don’t expect 90% of Jews to let whites do the same in any White country, White community. 90% plus of Jews push for mass Muslim immigration in to Europe, UK, Ausralia, Canada, USA.

    • Svigor

      I have a problem with Jews wanting Israel to be a Jewish state as long as Jews continue to form the vanguard of the cultural army opposing ethnic states for the descendants of European Christendom.

      Nobody gets my approval for having what they would deny to me.

      Nor do those working hand in glove with those who do so (i.e., American Jewry and their BFFs, Israeli Jewry).

      • ATBOTL

        Exactly. We don’t owe Jews any support of Israel’s “right to exist” was long as they deny ours. In fact, they are the ones leading the attack on our right to exist.

  • bigone4u

    Israel for Jews, Saudi Arabia for Arabs, Japan for the Japanese, China for the Chinese, ____________ for Caucasians. Can somebody please fill in the blank? I can’t remember which country is for Caucasians.

    • Morris LeChat

      America, Europe, Argentina, Paraguay. Uruguay, Chile, Southern Brazil, Russian Asia, Australia, South Africa. How about putting all that in the blank there.

      • bigone4u

        Pardon me for disagreeing, but the part of the USA I live in ruled and controlled by Mexicans. South Africa? Are you nuts?

        • Morris LeChat

          YOu misunderstand me, I mean after we RETAKE the whole of the USA and South Africa

    • Dave4088

      That’s the thing. The same people who declare Israel a Jewish state call us racist if we desire our own, racially exclusive territory.

  • NYB

    I like their revival of ethnocentrism. May we extrapolate:

    Germany as the National State of German people.

    The West as the natural homeland of whites.

    Multiculturalism as an outdated remnant 20th century neo-Marxism.

    Indiscriminate mass immigration as genocide.

    • Joe McCarthy

      Don’t even try to push these concepts of “mass immigration = genocide.”

      What is happening already has a definition in history: colonization.

      Colonization is almost always associated with genocide, both cultural and physical.

      I say “stop the colonization of Europe.”

      • JustaWhiteMom

        if you admit that settler colonialism is inherently genocidal and you admit that white countries are being subjected to settler colonialism, then why don’t you call it genocide?

        • BonusGift

          Because he would have to agree with you and most of the people that are obviously being genocided by design.

  • Jss

    I’m sick of everything coming out of the Middle East to include Israel. They get to call Israel a Jewish ethnic state but we can’t do that in America or Europe because that would make us “like the Nazis”. But not the Israelis because they are Jewish and Jews can’t be Nazis because they are victims of the holocaust and thus if you criticize anything they do you are “like the Nazis”.

    And no we don’t Israel for anything. They have nukes and guns and can take care of themselves. If we are so worried about Muslim terrorism we should stop supporting terrorist in Syria and Libya. We should stop tampering in affairs in Muslim countries. And most of all we should stop letting Muslims live and travel in our own countries. If they aren’t here they can’t blow anything up or cut people’s heads off.

    • Felix_M

      But not the Israelis because they are Jewish and Jews can’t be Nazis because they are victims of the holocaust and thus if you criticize anything they do you are “like the Nazis”.

      It wasn’t Herr Schickelgruber that first claimed his tribe was the master race. That claim goes all the way back to Moses and his followers are still making that claim. Chosen people/Master race/Vanguard Elite: All one and the same.

    • Vanessa

      You nailed it! I’d give you 100 thumbs up if I could.

    • saxonsun

      You are so right…and I like the Jews.

  • Anon

    Hilarious. Alot of words could be spilled on both sides of the debate on this……but it is pointless.

    The jews, have been so hateful and genocidal in their wars the last several decades that they have had an unintended consequence. The entire area of israel and much of the greater land of ersatz israel they intend to steal in the future, has literally been poisoned by the use of depleted uranium ammunition (which is not even close to actually being depleted). The result is the entire region has a low level radiation that permeates all the land and water, and much of the air. The cancer rate is probably way above normal but even that is not the issue. Fertility is plummeting among any who stay in the region. At the rate its going down, there will not be any future generations of people. Male babies born today will be completely sterile by the time they are old enough to have children. Israel…..no matter who you think should be allowed to be there….has no future. And that is likely a permanent thing.

    A HARSH lesson for the rest of the world about warfare.

    http://salem-news.com/articles/april142010/israeli-sperm.php

    • Svigor

      Wrong post

  • GM (Australia)

    Some years ago my wife and myself spent a short time at Tiberius. A local Christian group there told us that as Christians they were not particularly welcome in that strictly Jewish city. I thought about this a lot as I looked around at the local Jewish population. Most of these people come from families who had fled the horrors of wartime Europe. Most of these people themselves would be spending half of their adult life in a military uniform to defend their country. I thought, these people really do need a place they can call their own and enjoy their own customs and traditions.. We ALL need a place we can call our own, just one more reason to reject forced multiculturalism and inappropriate immigration policies.

    • PesachPatriot

      I’m sorry that people in Tiberias were less than pleasant….it is a pretty nice place in general and most israelis are very warm and welcoming to foreign tourists….some people there lack manners because they live in a war zone….thanks for being a little nicer than some of the other posters on this thread…..we aren’t all so bad….kids over there grow up way too fast….by the time they are ten they know all about ak-47’s, stabbings in crowded marketplaces, stone throwing riots, suicide bus bombers, retaliatory air strikes and international condemnation by people in nice safe countries who will never need to worry about that kind of stuff….they know they are as hated today as they were in 1930 and that many people would be itching to finish what hitler started if they weren’t armed to the teeth with tanks, airplanes and nukes….the more things change the more they stay the same.

      • GM (Australia)

        Please note, the people of Tiberius were never less than pleasant to us, we thoroughly enjoyed the time we spent there, the food, scenery, trips on the lake our quite safe walks in the streets in the evening and observing a lot of traditional Jewish customs. My annoyance (as always) is directed at people who will not respect local customs, (this includes loud mouth complaints about not being able to get services on the Sabbath) or who simply ask for trouble and as much as I hate to say it, this includes the particular (almost fringe) Christian group we visited.

        I agree with your comments about being in a war zone and I also appreciate the fact that Christian tourists and visitors are welcomed in Israel and that modern Israel is very accommodating to the many Christian organisations who maintain historic sites in that nation.

        • Morris LeChat

          uh oh, what are you up to? Did you create another identity, start a conversation with it, and then respond with the wrong identity?

          • Svigor

            Reading is fundamental, kids.

            P.S., are fundie Jews in Israel still spitting on Christian bishops during religious processions?

          • Glickstein44

            The Ashkenazi(90% of Israels population) who have not a drop of authentic ancestral Israelite blood in their genome) also treat the authentic Israelite(Hebrews) Shepardim much the same way they treat Christians…the Shepardim only tolerate them because they know that without them they can have no state of their own.They also dont have a choice now but to tolerate them.

          • GM (Australia)

            To: M. LeChat, my comments on this site are never contrived and are always aimed at supporting the ideals of Amren.

            To: The Moderator, Can we please stop personal attacks, insults and innuendo on this site.

            To Everyone Else; We have enough enemies without becoming dis-united.

            Happy Easter Everyone; Let us enjoy and appreciate it before the multicults abolish it or we have Islamic law imposed on us all.

            GM

        • PesachPatriot

          HAve you ever seen the episode of the simpsons where they go to israel with ned flanders? Its pretty funny…..jerusalem and tel aviv are much more used to foreign visitors….what many western tourists don’t understand is that the rules and regulations around holy places aren’t enforced by armed men to be prudes and sticks in the mud….a woman showing too much skin near a muslim holy place could be in serious physical danger and that incident could easily spiral into the international crisis of the week.

          The ruins of crusader churches and castles which I consider some of the most beautiful works of western civilization would not last long after the muslims have thrown the last jewish carcass in to the mediterranean or the jordan. The church of st. john in acre and the church of the holy sepulchre are both amazing buildings and I would be sad to see them crumble into the pages of history like the bamiyan buddhas or the twin towers.

          • GM (Australia)

            I don’t watch too much Simpsons but have certainly seen and appreciate the amazing architectural and other historic sites in the Holy Land. Yes, the Twin Towers (worst crime in modern history) and the Bamiyan Buddhas, the response to both of these outrages is in reality still very muted.

      • Svigor

        Special pleading. If we stomped on blacks’ heads and started a low-intensity conflict with them, we could say the same thing.

        • PesachPatriot

          No one in israel needs sympathy or my pleading for them….they know they can measure humanities mercy and compassion for them in a thimble and have some room left….the problems of that part of the world are insoluble….they have filled the pages of history and will fill them for the next 1000 years….in the pre-industrial religious age everyone yearned to possess jerusalem….in this day and age everyone wants to control the oil. The next century will be struggle between russia, china and america to control it…I would personally be more than ok if you or any other poster wanted to have law enforcement use west bank tactics to get america’s cities back in to recognizable shape. Its pretty much the only way to deal with it…

          • Pelagian

            .”the problems of that part of the world are insoluble….”

            Yeah, now. Since 1948. Before that US “Foreign Aid” was $0

            And there was nothing much very interesting to write in the “history books” til the Final Judgment at least. Unless you’re a Dispensalitionist who needs to write his own.

      • Vanessa

        I’ve not heard of any retaliatory “airstrikes” by Palestinians in Israel. When did they get fighter jets? Or are you referring to Syria possibly retaliating for your country joining the war against them by launching your own airstrike deep into Syrian territory? Well, bomb-throwers shouldn’t live in glass houses I suppose.

        • PesachPatriot

          arabs kind of got the ball rolling in 1948….the UN partitioned the country and israel said ok, arabs started screaming jihad and itbakh al yahud….if the arabs put down their weapons there would be peace tomorrow…if israel put down theirs it would be a massacre….people in nice, safe civilized parts of the world try to judge a country in a war zone by the standards of toronto, minneapolis, zurich or vancouver….I actually feel pretty badly for the arab kids growing up over there too….by the time they are ten they know all about checkpoints, collateral damage, shootouts between radical groups, funerals, hunger and hopelessness….no one over there has it easy….most people on both sides just want to live, but a small group of fanatics(about 5% of population) derails the peace process every time something starts going in the right direction….in that part of the world its 2 steps forward 20 steps back.

    • Pelagian

      Once again the Jews come out smelling like a rose.

    • ATBOTL

      Why are you bending over backwards to make excuses for the people who are leading the attack on us?

      Have you read about the Jewish role in opening Australia to nonwhite immigration?

      http://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2012/08/the-war-on-white-australia-a-case-study-in-the-culture-of-critique-part-1-of-5/

      • GM (Australia)

        Oh Dear. No I am not bending over backwards but even if I were I would be infinitely better than laying prostrate and apologizing to the Islamic world for the events of 9/11. This is exactly what the rest of the world has been doing for the past 12 years.

        As to your link re the end of the “White Australia” immigration policy it should be noted that most pressure to end it came from the UN and the general loony left especially university students.

        A full debate on the rights and wrongs of Israel is beyond the scope of this post but they, the Israelis want to preserve their lifestyle just like posters to this website want to preserve our lifestyle, none of us want it destroyed by multicultural madness, this is the ONLY message we should be trying to get across to out political masters.

  • John boehner

    America is for native americans. Whites should leave and go back to europe where they came from.

    • Pocafotus

      Whites were here first. Ever heard of Kenniwick man? Nah, didnt think so,

  • Dave4088

    Sure, a sensible idea except diaspora Jewry will not allow America, Europe, Canada or Australia to make the proclamation that they are national states for non-Jewish white people. If that ever happened the militantly philo-semitic, but anti-racist neo-conservatives who go insane and demand war.

    • anarchyst

      It is not IQ, but social and cultural insularity that contribute the most to jewish “success”. When your “own kind” is there to “grease the skids” either by “hook or crook” success is virtually assured. If one is to take numbers into consideration, jews are well overrepresented in colleges and universities. Part of it is a true love of education, but not all. Having “your own kind” at the top virtually assures that “your own kind” will be given preferential treatment. This is not a peculiarly jewish phenomonen, but is apparent in all races.
      Jews have contributed greatly to the betterment of mankind and at the same time have helped to deny other races the same “building blocks” (social and cultural insularity) that would assure other races’ future success. Jewish insistence on “multiculturalism and diversity” for the rest of us do neither them or us any good and actually leads to resentment against them.
      The debasement of our culture is primarily a result of those that run “hollywood” and the mass-media (that are primarily atheistic marxist ashkenazic jews–NOT jews “of the book”).
      It is the (long-dead, but “brilliant”) white males that came up with the concept of “limited government” and “rights” that are “endowed by our creator”–NOT “given” (and can be “taken away”) by government. No other “culture” in the world has ever come up with these ideas (and ideals).
      The United States is the last great hope for the world, but has been co-opted by internationalist (communist) types that hold no allegiance to the ideals that made the United States what it is (was?) Add to that the business types that elevate making maximum “wealth” for themselves without any consideration for those who actally perform the “work” to create “wealth”.
      As maligned as Henry Ford was in his recognition of “international jewry”, he did MORE to increase the standard of living for everyone in America than anyone else at the time. His decision to pay his workers $5.00 per day (when the average wage was $1.00 a day) caused the banksters and wall street types to howl that “capitalism would be destroyed” if his wage were allowed to prevail. Ford not only increased the standard of living, but gave “capitalism” such a boost that his policies are still being felt today (although to a much lesser degree).
      Globalism and the destruction of nationalism and patriotism will cause the destruction of this great country. The effects of globalism are already being felt . . .

  • Glickstein44

    Israel to Define Itself…but,but but…whats this i hear about outsiders wanting Samaras to crack down on the Golden Dawn?? Yep,here is the latest—World Jewry Order Its Lap Dog to Ban Golden Dawn(Boycott Estee Lauder!)

    http://xaameriki.wordpress.com/2013/03/26/world-jewry-orders-its-lap-dog-to-ban-golden-dawn-boycott-estee-lauder/

    Boycott these products if you believe people come before Dictatorship of the few and wealthy:

    Estee Lauder
    MAC(Makeup Art Cosmetics)
    Bobby Brown
    Joe Malone
    Prescriptives
    Tom Ford
    Smashbox
    Clinique
    Origins
    Ojon
    Aramis
    LabSeries Skincare for Men
    Tommy Hilfiger
    Kiton
    Donna Karan
    Michael Kors
    American Beauty
    Goodskin Labs
    Coach
    Grassroots Research Labs
    Aveda
    Bumble and bumble
    Darphin

  • I don’t agree with the anti-jewish undertone of your review. I understand why you react against Jewish pre-eminence in intellectual fields where many of them make money out selling false ideas, like racial equality, a concept they really don’t believe in. But after a cool examination, you will realize that accusing Jews of having put America in its present state of decadence is of no use. You will see that if Jews have been the best at benefitting from such a process of decadence, it does not mean they have been the masterminds of it (with the exception of left-wing university academics everybody despises, including them, for having preferred a featherbed tenure instead of real business, but everybody also agrees that such academics who chose their position out of sheer rejection of real work have likewise disconnected ideas and decide nothing in reality). Most of them I happened to meet deplore the American big cities being overtaken by black mobs just as much as Wasps, or maybe even more : the only diversity they really push for is a traditional central European-style one, a diversity composed of various peoples sharing the same values they themselves love, like work, study and spirit of free enquiry, out of which they define their own concept of superiority. Their first choice for a society to succeed in would have been a solid and self-concious mostly half-Latin, half-Germanic environment as in 1900 Vienna with Northern French, Northern Italians and also the whitest fringe of Mediterranean countries : even the most supremacist of them would gladly consider the Germanic group the ideal second of an ideal society they would be the head of. The reason why they dislike a pure Wasp society in America is simply that they find it too drab and also a rather poor client for their so-called cultural products. Actually they rather accept sheer antisemitism from East European groups they feel they can relate with successfully, than pro-jewish stances from peoples they really don’t like for being too loutish and too impervious to the kind of discursive activity they love most and benefit most from making a living with, like the French Quebecois of Montreal. But even within the circles of those who dislike most certain adverse white groups, there is a quasi unanimous consent in disliking the Blacks with much, much more energy, much more so than the surrounding White society. There is no hypocrisy on the Israelis’ part in being racist against third world peoples all around while supporting a now multicultural America, actually the Israelis have since the sixties been very unanimous in finding America much too tolerant and Black-friendly, they would have loved it to become rather like Imperial Britain or Imperial Austria : what they like most are moderately racist empires also acknowledging other superior races such as theirs, and taking inspiration from their own superiority. Moshe Dayan already resented greatly the fact that the US Army had become a haven for low IQ African Americans, and Netanyahu’s choice was clearly Mitt Romney over Obama.

    Most of them really dislike that feminist stuff that is easily ascribed to them, too, far more than the surrounding society. But given social contexts they cannot change or cannot guide to another more desirable state, Jews definitely have a talent to make a better living for themselves with ideas that are not theirs at all and make do with, actually you need deliberately mistake yourself for your client to be a good seller of anything. They would prefer Rap not to have ever existed, ideally they would have loved an American pop music style rather inspired by eastern european gypsy musical forms, but given the fact Rap is the music that pays off most to be sold to Blacks, they go for it in the same time they complain of its barbarity when they succeed as creative artists themselves or as social critics. Most Jewish professional anti-racists who pushed for the desegregation in the sixties were actually quasi anti-semitic self-hating Jews coming from families they resented against, of the very same kind that are today anti-zionist, they were actually so few that all it took for their families to neutralize them was to send them for a stay in an Israeli kibbutz, or simply resume the family trade. The same thing can be said of the Frankfurt school, the traditional European culture they resented against first and foremost was the Victorian Jewish one.

    Before accusing the Jews of intending to destroy the European cultures, it must be remembered that most European identities were greatly shaped by Jews and also according to Jewish ideals of nationhood and also of racial superiority, in their very beginning from the Renaissance and Classical era, when the court Jews as they were called favoured nationalities, oftentimes racially defined, over regionalism. Because of the films about the nazi era, people tend to associate White racism and antisemitism, but we must not forget that the very first modern and biologically-defined white superiority movement in Europe, the British imperialism, was definitely pro-Jewish right from the start onwards, based its racism on Biblical precepts and concepts with the help of Jewish scholars, and arose right at the time the Jews were invited back into England From Cromwell onwards. For a long time, the bugaboo of Jews was Southern Catholic and feudal, regionalistic Europe, and they themselves saw in extolling the Northern Germanic races as the prime founders of all civilization as they liked it, and in Sicilian-style miscegenation the biggest threat to it.

    Even in America, it definitely cannot be ascribed to Jewish influence that America, from the sixties onwards, has been evolving to a more and more Brazilian-type of society, with the demise of the former American dream in favour of an oligarchy maintaining a multi-cultural system of violent ghettoes. The Jewish influence had already reigned supreme from the time Manhattan had become the Metropolis of the World, and the American Federal Reserve the master of all currencies of the World, and Hollywood the cinema studio making the whole world dream. Without the Jewish influence reigning supreme at such a degree on the general American spirit as well as economy, it must rather be argued America would have stayed a rather backwater isolationist Republic with a big Jefferson-like landowner elite and Mormon-like church bodies and living off exporting foodstuffs, rather than have become a world industrial empire at the beginning of 20th century. That would have been most anglo-saxon people’s first choice hadn’t been guided otherwise by the mass media. Television and cinema and also all forms of non business culture at a higher level would have been banned in a quite totalitarian spirit, and maybe such a Republic, far less important on the world scene than it has been, would now be the main ally of extremist Moslem countries such as Arabia due to common interest sharing (tendencies are still to be found in that direction). Jewishness is not the problem.

    What made the difference in bringing down American culture from 1968 onwards can boil down to one word : Blacks. Any society in the history of the world that has failed to understand the incapacity for the Blacks to create or even maintain an organized civilization goes the same route to oblivion after a phase characterized by the loss of all civic and moral values, no matter there is a Jewish community involved or not. Wherever Blacks are considered equals, witchcraft and dishonesty is the one and only way to get it in a more and more jungle-like world. Jews adapted to the promotion of Blacks as a way to keep themselves in a temporary position of power and privilege as they have learned to do in other countries such as Brazil, but that was not the choice of the group as a whole, far from it, otherwise the most prestigious Jewish community in the World would have been the Brazilian one (Henry Miller would have liked New Orleans to be the Queen City of America instead of NYC, but he was a loner). On the other hand, you may rightly accuse the universities and the intellectual and ineffectual class of being the real artisans of America’s demise, and these are led by Jewish elements for sure, but within the Jewish community these elements have less prestige than within the society at large. It may be more reasonably argued that the former Communist powers counted on the promotion of Blacks in America to achieve their destructive aim, and might have won in a post-mortem revenge. The only way out of the current American demise is putting a final end to the humanistic paradigm : maybe homo sapiens as we claim to be doesn’t exist that much.

    • TGC

      You better believe that Jews are responsible for the current state of things…they’ve been guilty of the “state of things” for 2000+ years. They have been banished from different civilizations across the globe at a time when those civilizations were at opposite ends of the world and had no means of communication with each other.

      No, that’s not to shirk responsibility; White men are responsible for becoming the willing lapdogs of a group of people who to this day teach that non-Jews’ only purpose on the planet is to serve Jews. To deny that the direction of Jewish self determination is set by hardline parties and Rabbis who make statements like that is to be simply naive.

      White men must take responsibility for failing to impose the ‘Byzantine solution’ in the West. We could have avoided virtually all of our current problems by making this step. However, very many White men, even “White nationalists”, have sold their soul to their willing master (usually always for some material reason) and have effectively rendered themselves crypto-Jews. Pathetic fraternal organizations like Masonry are a prime example of this.

      To continue to on the one hand argue for White sovereignty, elimination of Federal entitlement programs, private banks, etc., and then on the other rabidly support financially, sentimentally and with bodies the establishment of an illegal state directly against the interests of Whites is to belie your position.

      Jews aren’t White and they have no problem telling you so. While White Nationalists work in support of a Jewish ethnostate, they shrink from the idea of establishing a White ethnostate, if not only because of the baggage associated with that thought, baggage accumulated by Jewish propaganda campaigns.

      White nationalists (including here on AmRen) are afraid to name the Jew, honestly evaluate history, and ask the simple questions that need to be asked. Jews are stirring the White nationalist pot of honey with their kosher fingers.

      Your rambling gives you away.

      Virtually every financial and sociopolitical policy in this country, and around the world, that has deleterious effects on White interests and White existence (particularly in the South) originates from and is enforced by Jewry.

      You can take your time, do your homework and study world history. Jews make the defense that “we’ve been persecuted in every country we’ve ever lived since the beginning of time” as a means of garnering sympathy. To the objective observer that statement simply reveals an underlying problem, and the common denominator is Jewry itself.

      The longer Whites, particularly White nationalists, prostrate at the feet of Jews, and demonstrate their complacency or even agency by refusing to name the Jew, and by allowing the Jew prime positions in the White nationalist “movement.” There is absolutely NO REASON for any Jew to be involved in any White nationalist or European nationalist movement. The simple litmus test is one’s willingness in discussing this issue. Shabbos goy may get all expenses paid trips to the “holy land,”

      but you better be sure that they won’t be reaping the fruits of that labor…

      It’s clear to see where supposed “White Nationalists” stand on this issue — just as complacent as the rest of them when it comes to the JQ.

      Prudence is prime when dealing with Jews. They’ve got a lot to answer for.

  • To Everyone here: I know this might be getting off on topic and might of already been mentioned. However, did everybody see the new Miss Isreal? She’s quite a beautiful looker and it shows Isreal is living in the second decade of the 21st cent. Something, you individuals should take to heart. Check this out-http://newsfeed.time.com/2013/03/21/first-black-miss-isreal-invited-to-dinner-with-president-obama/ Happy Passover or Easter, whatever, you WN types celebrate!!

  • Smitty

    In the past Amren has posted various articles related to Golden Dawn so am perplexed why they removed the post related to the same.One of the worlds wealthiest men ,WJC president and head of the Estee Lauder company,Ronald S. Lauder,orders Greek prime minister Samaras to crack down on the legal political activity of Golden Dawn–the WJC is joined by seemingly infinite numbers of other jewish lobbies that seek to influence the internal issues of Greece from the outside,utilizing the power of purse and press—quote on Lauder Site: “Our philanthropy seeks to revitalize jewish identity through education and cultural initiatives that reach out to all jews.”…..Why in the world was this post removed?

    • Morris LeChat

      the name is just too close to the term “golden shower”

  • Charles W.

    Africa for Africans, Asia for Asians, Israel for Jews, and White countries for everyone.