China Is Engineering Genius Babies

Aleks Eror, Vice, March 15, 2013

{snip} While Western civilization chokes on its own gluttony like a latter-day Marlon Brando, China continues to buy up American debt and lock away the world’s natural resources. But now, not content to simply laugh and make jerk-off signs as they pass us on the geopolitical highway, they’ve also developed a state-endorsed genetic-engineering project.

At BGI Shenzhen, scientists have collected DNA samples from 2,000 of the world’s smartest people and are sequencing their entire genomes in an attempt to identify the alleles which determine human intelligence. Apparently they’re not far from finding them, and when they do, embryo screening will allow parents to pick their brightest zygote and potentially bump up every generation’s intelligence by five to 15 IQ points. {snip}

Geoffrey Miller, an evolutionary psychologist and lecturer at NYU, is one of the 2,000 braniacs who contributed their DNA. {snip}

VICE: Hey, Geoffrey. Does China have a history of eugenics?
Geoffrey Miller: As soon as Deng Xiaoping took power in the late 70s, he took the whole focus of the Chinese government from trying to manage the economy, to trying to manage the quality and quantity of people. In the 90s, they started to do widespread prenatal testing for birth defects with ultrasound, and more recently, they’ve spent a lot of money researching human genetics to figure out which genes make people smarter.

What do you know about BGI Shenzhen?
It’s the biggest genetic research center in China, and I think the biggest in the world, by a considerable margin. They’re not just doing human genetics; BGI is also doing lots of plant genetics, animal genetics, anything that’s economically relevant or scientifically interesting.

Are you in touch with them?
I just got an email a couple of days ago saying that they’d almost finished doing the sequencing for the BGI Cognitive Genetics Project, the one I gave my genetics to, and that the results would be available soon.

What was their selection process?
They seem mostly interested in people of Chinese and European descent. They’re basically recruiting through a scientific conference, through word of mouth. You have to provide some evidence that you’re as smart as you say you are. You have to send your complete CV, publications you’ve produced, standardized-test scores, where you went to college… stuff like that.

How will the research be applied?
Once you’ve got that information and a fertilized egg that’s divided into a few cells, you can sample one of the cells to figure out the expected intelligence if it’s implanted and becomes a person.

What does that mean in human language?
Any given couple could potentially have several eggs fertilized in the lab with the dad’s sperm and the mom’s eggs. Then you can test multiple embryos and analyze which one’s going to be the smartest. That kid would belong to that couple as if they had it naturally, but it would be the smartest a couple would be able to produce if they had 100 kids. It’s not genetic engineering or adding new genes, it’s the genes that couples already have.


When do you think the embryo analysis might be implemented on a large scale?
Actual use of the technology to do embryo screening might take five to ten years, but it could be just a few years. It depends on how motivated they are.

Could this whole process be repeated with other characteristics, like physical appearance?
Absolutely. In fact, almost any trait other than intelligence would be easier to do. We know that intelligence depends on lots of genes while physical traits—like hair or eye color—only depend on a few genes. Things like body shape would be easier to do, physical attractiveness would be pretty complicated, personality traits might be a little simpler than intelligence—how hard working somebody is, how impulsive, how politically liberal or conservative they are would be easier. How religious you are—that’s definitely influenced by genes to some degree.

Shit. How does Western research in genetics compare to China’s?
We’re pretty far behind. We have the same technical capabilities, the same statistical capabilities to analyze the data, but they’re collecting the data on a much larger scale and seem to be capable of transforming the scientific findings into government policy and consumer genetic testing much more easily than we are. Technically and scientifically we could be doing this, but we’re not.

Why not?
We have ideological biases that say, “Well, this could be troubling, we shouldn’t be meddling with nature, we shouldn’t be meddling with God.” I just attended a debate in New York a few weeks ago about whether or not we should outlaw genetic engineering in babies and the audience was pretty split. In China, 95 percent of an audience would say, “Obviously you should make babies genetically healthier, happier, and brighter!” There’s a big cultural difference.


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  • John

    The cultural differences that Mr. Miller alluded to exist because China does not face the multicultural handicaps that Whites in the West have been conditioned over decades to accept. With roughly half of all Whites, their first reaction to such a proposal is typically, “This could produce disparate impact for African-Americans and undocumented migrants. Oh no! It’s a bad idea!” After all, they have been conditioned to accept responsibility for dumb and dumber (e.g., Browns and Blacks). So many ironies.

    • David Ashton

      Most Chinese have not been raised to “love thy enemies” and “resist not evil”.

  • a multiracial individual

    Many conservatives are ignorant of general scientific principles. Also, many display a troubling and overtly flippant attitude toward science/scientists. This has earned them a (richly deserved) reputation of being anti-science. However, when it comes to: evolutionary psychology, psychometrics, neuroscience, etc, it is clear that liberals are just as zealous and ignorant regarding these subjects. Most liberals believe in the tabula rasa, despite the overwhelming evidence that suggests that humans are not blank slates. Each camp opposes the science they disagree with (mostly because certain scientific theories are associated with the “other” camp).

    • E_Pluribus_Pluribus

      True. Liberals/leftist abhor the evolutionary implications of “group selection,” the idea that groups competed groups for scarce resources, dominance, females. Jonathan Haidt, a prominent social psychologist at the University of Virginia, explains:

      “In my book [The Righteous Mind] I explain why you need to see evolution working on multiple levels: Genes compete with genes. Individuals compete with individuals. And groups compete with groups . . . But the idea that groups compete with groups and that we are descended from winning groups, that has been a heresy in scientific circles since the 1960s so very few evolutionary theorists will talk about that.” (Jonathan Haidt, presentation of The Righteous Mind, March 21, 2012; the exchange occurs between 1:02:45 and 1:04:40 on the video):

      But the idea that groups compete with groups is not heresy for E. O. Wilson, two-time Pulitizer Prize-winning biologist and founder of the discipline known as socio-biology. Wilson explains man’s capacity for violence toward “out-groups”:

      “Darwin in the DESCENT OF MAN probably had close to the right answer . . . He said that human evolution was driven in substantial part by group selection, that is, group versus group, inter-group competition, one group — tribe, clan, whatever it was — acting aggressively toward others, defending territory, acquiring territory, dominating if they can, enslaving if that’s possible.”

      E. O. WILSON featured on In-Depth,, August 5, 2007:
      Watch 3-hour interview:

      • concernedcollegekid

        “The Righteous Mind” is one of the best books I’ve read in a long time. I loved it. Jonathan Haidt is one of those very, very rare “social scientists” that are actually “scientists”. It’s a race realist book if you’re looking for race realism in it, but it doesn’t contain anything that would be offensive to non-race realists. Jonathan Haidt’s writing, in my opinion, is the best example I’ve ever read of starting to ease good, reasonable people into accepting average racial differences. It’s never incendiary or hysterical and doesn’t use terms that immediately trigger negative reactions in people.

        People on this site should read that book and look to Haidt’s writing as an example of how you can REALLY make educated, evolution-believing people question existing dogma on race without feeling like bad people.

    • Der Typ

      The irony of the left regarding this subject is even greater than what can be found on the American right these days. Their mockery for creationist or fans of ‘intelligent design’ is without bound, but they insist on the Tabula Rasa (blank slate) theory for our brains. If we are to accept the premise of the Blank Slate theory regarding intelligence then we have to either conclude that the leftist hit the cosmic lottery or there is ‘intelligent design’. Of course there is a much simpler explanation, which they don’t mind using if they are talking about the difference in the structure of the tibia between to different groups, namely, evolution.

      To me, to simultaneously believe in the Blank Slate theory in regards to intelligence and evolution is a classic Orwellian Double Think. That is, the ability to have two complete but mutually exclusive thoughts at the same time.

      The mental aerobics people perform to evade the word racist really are quite comical.

      • JohnEngelman

        Steven J. Gould used the theory of evolution as a stick to beat Protestant Fundamentalists with. Then he ignored the evolutionary implications of “The Bell Curve” and race realism.

        • a multiracial individual

          Gould was certainly a talented zoologist. Apparently his work with terrestrial gastropods was especially impressive. However, no matter how smart some people are, wishful thinking and emotional desire always seem to creep back into some peoples’ consciousness, even esteemed scientists. I wonder if people like Gould deep down inside know the truth or not.

          • David Ashton

            I wrote to him once after he had published stuff on brain size and shape comparisons (since shown to be dishonest) for a comment on the theory that black skull formation prevented frontal lobe development, and got a totally evasive reply that avoided the issue altogether.

          • a multiracial individual

            Typicaly response. Perhaps the libs should just admit the truth. It would make their philanthropy much more vigorous. You think they throw money at cancer and HIV research now? How much would they throw at Eugenics for Blacks, Hispanics, Abos, etc. if the truth was known to all? I think the figure would be beyond all reckoning.

        • François

          He said whatever suited the pursuit of his own objectives, at a given moment, then.

    • QuinnTheEskimo9

      Nonsense. This is the SILLIEST post I have read on this entire forum, including any by a lefty character that goes by “engelman.”

      What proof do you have that “many conservatives are ignorant of general scientific principles?” or that “many have a troubling…flippant attitude toward science/scientists.”

      These are your mere OPINIONS based on “faith” and conjecture, not scientific proof.

      Many scientists HAVE to toe the PC line to keep their positions or receive grants. Look up James Watson and find out what happened to him when he tried to leave the PC plantation

      • The Verdict of History

        Multi-race man is correct here.

        “Many conservatives are ignorant of general scientific principles”…

        … in that many American cultural traditionalists refuse to accept the practically irrefutable nature of scientific evidence surrounding EVOLUTION, THE BIG BANG, GLOBAL CLIMATE CHANGE, THE USEFULNESS of STEM-CELL RESEARCH…

        The left is guilty of ignoring the potentialities of Positive Eugenics…

        • JohnEngelman

          By denying the truth of “The Bell Curve” the left denies the political implications of evolution, and attempts to punish those who draw implications.

      • a multiracial individual

        Conservatives are far more likely to: deny natural selection, deny environmental science, believe in “gay conversion” therapy,etc.

        • JohnEngelman

          Gallup June 11, 2007

          PRINCETON, NJ — The majority of Republicans in the United States do not believe the theory of evolution is true and do not believe that humans evolved over millions of years from less advanced forms of life.

          • Quoting an opinion poll is the best that you can do? An opinion poll is not a fact. I used to penalize my freshman comp students for using “block quotes” to bolster an argument without at least enough text devoted to explaining why they inserted the block quote, Engleberry.

          • a multiracial individual
          • Cherry Bomb

            No they aren’t. Gallup is biased, Pew is even worse.

          • a multiracial individual

            I am afraid we have reached an impasse. They might be biased in the data in which they DESIRE to collect. I will not rule that out, however, they are not permitted to fudge with the methodology, nor do they control peoples’ responses.

          • JohnEngelman

            The topic here is widespread Republican indifference to facts that can be proven scientifically, and to scientific consensus. A poll demonstrating that most Republicans reject a theory that is essential to modern biology is relevant to that topic.

            Rejecting the theory of evolution is to biology what rejecting the multiplication tables would be to mathematics.

          • David Ashton

            Liberal egalitarians and biblical fundamentalists are often “allies” against human genetic research. There are problems with evolutionary theories, but even more with the date of Noah’s universal deluge. What we have with the human races, and some related fossil evidence, is evidence of evolution staring them in the face in a biological area which is the most ideologically embarrassing for them both.

          • JohnEngelman

            Secular liberals dislike Protestant Fundamentalists, and like blacks (even though they know few blacks, and those few are not representative).

            Consequently secular liberals use evolution as a stick to beat the Fundamentalists with and ignore the implications of evolution when those implications are displeasing to them.

            They ignore the importance of innate differences over acquired differences, the reality that some individuals are genetically superior to other individuals in ways that nearly everyone appreciates, and the reality that races differ significantly in average ability levels and behavior for reasons that are mainly genetic.

          • Sun

            That maybe true that it doesn’t outright prove an assertion however the very policies that are advocated by Republican parties members disprove the belief of evolution of most Republicans. Laws to either deny evolution being taught in school and/or demand creationism to be taught is well known and ill refutable.

        • QuinnTheEskimo9

          That is your OPINION only.

          You have no way of proving this and you posted NO sources for your contention. You have no way of knowing whether “conservatives” are far more likely to deny environmental science, etc.

          You are being ridiculous.

        • David Ashton

          Mainly in the USA, not so much elsewhere in the western world.

          • a multiracial individual

            A fair point. I have not seen the data, but I would not be surprised if European conservatives are just as scientifically literate (if not more so) than their liberal counterparts.

      • MikeofAges

        Then there’s what happens when the PC plantation doesn’t want you and you want some of the sugar they control. Hell, that’s the story of my life. Not figuratively. Not metaphorically. Literally. The best I can say about these people is that they need a lot of structure. It helps them manage their neuroses. That’s the liberal. The leftist is another matter. Leftists may be imbalanced and irrationally angry. But they are willing to fight and die when it comes to that. That often makes all the difference.

        “Somewhere ages and ages hence:
        Two roads diverged in a wood, and I—
        I took the one less traveled by,
        And that has made all the difference”

        Robert Frost

        Not that he meant it that way, of course. He was thinking of an earnest youth who had read his Emerson and his Thoreau and wanted his life to mean something. Not our problem, by the way. Our problem is that we have sent too many people down “the road less traveled”. For most, it a curse.

    • François

      “This has earned them a (richly deserved) reputation of being anti-science”.

      Of course! I mean, some of those people believe that Darwinism is only some kind of ideology, and that the biblical Genesis, is tha actual “story”, of how lfe began and evolved, on Earth!

      Too many of them are not just anti-scientific, but plain anti-intellectual.

      But we can’t count on the Sarah Palins of the world to do anything that will bring us closer to our objectives.

  • Fighting_Northern_Spirit

    Now if the Chinese could identify their amoral hyper-pragmatic gene and eliminate it, they might get somewhere.

    • CourtneyfromAlabama

      I agree. Your comment made me laugh (with you , not at you).

    • Northerner

      Pragmatism has always been strong among the Chinese. Most ancient cultures died out, but there’s didn’t… and that kind of character trait is probably a big reason why.

    • patrick

      Amoral hyper-pragmatism is bad? Are you joking? It’s precisely because of that trait that they’re able to understand that smarter and healthier is better, and dumber and sicker is worse. The Chinese are a no-nonsense people who are aiming to better themselves in the most effective and pragmatic way possible: eugenics.

      Meanwhile, we moral and idealistic whites coddle the Mexicans and ghetto blacks. We’re teaching our white American children that blacks and hispanics are our equals and that anything that disputes that stems solely from racism.

      Who is getting somewhere here? I think we have a lot to learn from the Chinese. They don’t buy that eglaitarian bull for one second.

      • Fighting_Northern_Spirit

        Yes, amoral hyper-pragmatism is bad, thanks for asking. Pragmatism is fine until it crosses the line into amorality, then you end up with rampant theft, scams, wage slavery, organ harvesting, melamine in baby formula, toddlers cranked by trucks and left to die in pools of their own blood while pedestrians walk by unconcerned and unfazed, you know, that sort of thing.
        Whites can regain their self-preservation instincts without resorting to Chinese-style amorality. Our societies are livable for a reason, and we should limit them to Whites only. Others are welcome to emulate us but not share.

  • The__Bobster

    China is progressing well in her preparations to conquer us.

    On Tuesday’s “Mornings on the Mall” on WMAL-FM in Washington DC, Rep. Frank Wolf (R-VA) revealed that it was the Obama Administration that allowed hundreds of Chinese nationals to work in a sensitive area of NASA’s Langley Research Center. One of the nationals was arrested Monday at Dulles airport as he was trying to leave the country when he failed to disclose all of the electronics he was taking with him.

    An affidavit says Bo Jiang was under investigation for possible violations of the Arms Control Export Act and that he had previously taken a NASA laptop to China that contained sensitive information.

    Hosts Brian Wilson and Larry O’Connor pressed the congressman on the details of the program that allows hundreds of Chinese nationals who work directly with the Chinese Liberation Army to access the Hampton, Va. facility for the National Institute of Aerospace. Wolf revealed that the program is not meant to be a cultural exchange, as Americans are not invited to work in Beijing’s counterpart facilities. Furthermore, when asked who was responsible for allowing the questionable access to Chinese nationals, Wolf responded simply, “The Obama Administration.”

    • wattylersrevolt

      Good job Bobster!!!! White Americans should not be shocked that 9/11 happened…direct consequence of racial civic sloth..

    • David Ashton

      Engelman, part of the answer is here.

  • Tom Iron

    This type of thing never works. It’s like when Marilyn Monroe suggested she and Einstein have a baby because she thought if the baby had her looks and his brains, it’d be great. He of course said, with his luck, the baby would look like him and have her brains.

    • captainc

      you haven’t read carefully, it said it will choose the brightest baby, not playing dice like we did.

    • Tim

      Tom, go to and give your self a Ba-Dump!

    • François

      Sometimes it doesn’t work but sometimes, it does.

  • Michael_C_Scott

    China is one of the most hideously polluted nations on earth. If they want healthy kids, they need an environmental movement, rather than eugenics.

    • CourtneyfromAlabama

      I agree. They need a lot of things first. It is fashionable in the West to only focus on what is positive about China. I acknowledge that if we keep doing what we are doing , they will get ahead, but it won’t have anything to do with them being better than whites when both groups are left to themselves.

      • White Mom in WDC

        Courtney- I have seen you on this board before. Are you going to the Amren convention?

        • CourtneyfromAlabama

          Yes, ma’am! I am going. That is right, I believe I stood up for you under another article!

          • White Mom in WDC

            I really want to go. I just got tuned into this whole Amren thing the last little while. I have two kids though and nowhere to leave them. Ugh!

          • CharlieK

            Why not bring the kids? I’ll be happy to take a turn at watching them while you attend the conference. I’m sure others will, as well.

          • White Mom in WDC

            hmm Let me think about it!

          • CharlieK

            Also, I see that you’re in the DC area, as am I. I’m looking for riders to share the road trip to Tennessee. If you send an email to AR, they’ll tell you how to get in touch with me. Mr. Taylor (I think!) will vouch for me. We can pile you and the kids in my car and share the ride.

      • François

        All about China is not positive, non, but the very sad fact is that the Chinese are getting stronger and stronger, while American leaders won’t even kick out the Latino illegal immigrants who will brandish signs reading “f*** the Alamo”.

    • Northerner

      I’m sure their environment would improve substantially if they didn’t have all our manufacturing. The West contributed most of the pollution, so criticizing them is nothing short of being a douchebag.

  • wattylersrevolt

    A score on a IQ should not be accepted as a profound scientific insight into human intelligence. China will produce more” geniuses” who will figure out even more clever ways to destroy China’s ecosytems with technology…think four gorges dam. And if the “geniuses” who are doing this study have their way..China will be run by a cabal of technocratic imbeciles with 0 common sense.

    • captainc

      another reason why they need geniuses, perhapa, 4 gorges dam was designed by slightly less geniuses?

      • wattylersrevolt

        Only a mad calibrator such as yourself would make such a foolish comment. Yeah,.if they could spawn geniouses in test tubes in Shanghai with IQs of 1000 China would become a veirtible paradise within a decade or two. All you can get out of this research is that certain genes correlate with a score on an IQ test..and that’s a big maybe statistically speaking(we had this debate a year ago..go look up my comments in one of Jared’s posts), But this does not tell you anything thing deep or interesting about human intelligence. More fundamentally, why is this scientific sewage even being posted on AR? Who cares? All I care about is halting and reversing the size of he chinese invader population in America. You comment is just nutty on the face of it.

        • David Ashton

          Opposing and reversing non-white invasion of white homelands are not objectives incompatible with trying to improve the average fitness of white populations. Leftist egalitarians oppose them both.

          • wattylersrevolt

            IQ test score mad calibrators are skating on thin ice when they use IQ test scores as a proxy for intelligence. I mean it all comes across as bat… crazy with all this talk of mental fitness of the White population. Among other things intelligence is a very context sensitive phenomena that is to relative to problems facing a particular demographic group at a certain time and place.

            And taking everything at the mad calibrators face value reality…whose to say a society with an average IQ of 500 wouldn’t act as a lethal mutation? This is not a trivial point. I think what you guys should worry about is the moral developement of Native Born White Americans and getting rid of all the substandard math teachers. This is a very sane and doable way to increase the average mental fitness of Native Born White Americans.

          • QuinnTheEskimo9

            That this world is still completely dominated by White Western Civilization and White technology, not Chinese technology or civilization proves that IQ isn’t obviously everything.

          • JohnEngelman

            All that it proves is that the West has achieve temporary advances because of accidents of history.

          • a multiracial individual

            Jared Diamond was not completely wrong.

          • Cherry Bomb

            Jared Diamond was wrong about many things. He refuses to factor in IQ as a critical factor that advanced civilization. He passes off white achievement as due to climate and latitude, this is why the media love him. Mother nature is a b****. Those who were not prepared, could not think ahead and were unintelligent did not survive brutal northern winters that characterize Northern Europe. Mother nature selected for intelligence. But then Jared Diamond is not white.

          • a multiracial individual

            I find lefty academics’ refusal to incorporate IQ in their work as annoying as you do. I never claimed that luck was all, or even most it. However, if you think that results in life are 0% luck, then you are mistaken. There is an element of chance in all things.

            I completely agree, that intelligence helped some of our ancestors cope with harsh environments/conditions. IQ is actually correlated with all human behavior, and I mean ALL. In the last 100 years, we have been legislating laws to protect morons from themselves. Consider something as innocuous as seat belts. We make it illegal for people (and their offspring) to not wear them. Low IQ people mostly wear seat belts because it is the law, not because they are worried that they will be flung from their car. We have helped low IQ avoid destroying themselves (and their offspring) by making laws like this. There was no equivalent in the ancient world. If you were a moron and ate all your food in a few days, no one was coming to the rescue.

          • Beetlejuice

            “Jared Diamond”

            The anti-white author who claims Papua New Guineans are the smartest people on Earth?

            From what I know of the new Guineans they seem like good honest non-white folk with charming tribal rituals and such, but if his claim were true you would expect to see some exceptional civilisational evidence, but what do we know, we`re not Mommy Professors in the Professor Priesthood.

          • a multiracial individual

            The guy is a clown, but he is partially correct. Resource/circumstance luck plays SOME role (a very minor one).

          • QuinnTheEskimo9

            Accidents of history. This is a childish response and you are being purposefully stupid. I have not seen ONE post where you actually debate the topic. NOT ONE. 

            Notice you’re using the White English language, electric power, computer, and Internet to communicate to us here, NOT the ashkenazi or chinese ones.

          • David Ashton

            Accidents in history are factors like climate and disease.
            History is also made by people, and intelligence and character are relevant factors. This “temporary advance” dates from Sumer, Israel, Greece, Rome and the European experimental science that started (contrary to myth) in the Middle Ages. Of course, the huge largely homogeneous Chinese population can precipitate an intelligent elite that can effectively borrow (or steal) western ideas and create their own. But this is why the white west should unite to prevent our land, society and culture being taken over by a modern version of Mongol domination.

          • JohnEngelman

            How do you intend to oppose this “modern version of the Mongol domination?” Would you keep Orientals out of elite universities in the West? Would you prohibit high tech companies from hiring Orientals?

            I cannot document this, but I am confident that the percentage of Orientals with professional positions in Microsoft,Google, Apple, and other prestigious high tech companies is far out of proportion to their numbers in the American population. This is not because those companies have affirmative action policies that reduce entrance requirements for Orientals. It is because they hire the most talented programmers, engineers, and scientitsts in the world, and pay them what they need to to attract them.

            Would you like to change that?

          • David Ashton

            The problem is surreptitious technology transfer to foreign competitors not the use of foreigners to improve western technological supremacy.

          • JohnEngelman

            As long as Chinese American citizens and Chinese visitors in the United States do not pass classified information to the Chinese government and as long as they do not pass American trade secrets to companies in China I do not see what the problem is.

            I am aware that some of this is happening, but I do not think it is nearly significant enough to justify excluding everyone of Chinese descent from American universities and corporations.

            Historically different civilizations have benefited when they have learned from each other.

            I expect China to surpass the West technologically in this century. When this happens it will be beneficial for Americans and Europeans to study in Chinese universities, and to work for Chinese corporations.

          • François

            “As long as Chinese American citizens and Chinese visitors in the United
            States do not pass classified information to the Chinese government…”.

            It has happened, unfortunately.

          • JohnEngelman

            When it happens it is a crime that should be prosecuted. It should not be used as an excuse to discriminate against all Chinese in the United States.

          • François

            Yes, it is a crime, and in the cases to which I was referring, it was prosecuted. And I never said ALL Chinese in the US should be discriminated against. But I think that, just like the US used to be in a Cold War against the communist block, we are moving into a period of history, where your country will be engaged, quite possibly, in a similar cold war against China, and things such as spying, will occur. This isn’t about race, it’s about two powerful nations competing against one another.

          • Cherry Bomb

            Good job again engelman.

            Let’s make sure we put those evil, stupid, racist whites in their place here on this white issues site. We must continue to promote Asians and Jews until this site is shut down. We’ll have reached our goal when AR is shuttered! Too bad Vdare doesn’t take comments otherwise we could head over there and bomb them too with our pro-Asian/Jewish and anti-White comments.

            We did a great job over at OO didn’t we? Comments are now shut down and you and I can count that as a great success.

            Let’s also encourage others to invite more blacks and Asians to infiltrate this site (as I know you already do) and drive off regular posters and donaters so we can shut this site down. Who needs the ADL and SPLC when we can shill right here for the demise of American Renaissance! The dumb, racist whites who read this site need to be put in their place. Because your posts aren’t deleted you are the perfect candidate for this campaign.

            So, keep up the good work! We must step up our efforts and keep the pressure on to do everything we can to shut this site down by praising the virtues of Jews and Asians at the expense of whites.

            After all, you support the genocide of the white race and believe that Asians are more deserving of our country than we are.

          • JohnEngelman

            I challenge you to find something I have posted here that is anti-white. All that I do is to draw attention to the high average IQs of Jews and Orientals. Frequently I do so by quoting articles I have found here, including those by Jared Taylor.

            “For example, this is what Mr. Taylor wrote in “The Color of Crime”: “Asians commit violent crimes at about one quarter the white rate…

            “High arrest and incarceration rates for blacks and Hispanics—and very low rates for Asians—reflect differences in crime rates, not police or justice system bias…

            “In total, blacks had the highest incarceration rate at 7.2 times the white rate, followed by Hispanics, at 2.9 times the white rate. Indians and Pacific Islanders were imprisoned at about twice the white rate, and Asians at only 22 percent of the white rate…

            “There is only one category of crime for which Asians (unfortunately, this
            figure includes Pacific Islanders) are more likely to be arrested than whites, and that is gambling…

            “Asians are much less likely to commit crimes than whites…

            “Blacks are considerably more likely than any other group to commit crimes of virtually all kinds, while Asians are least likely…

            “Whites and Hispanics have intermediate crime rates…

            “Blacks are about eight times more likely than whites to commit murder, and 25 times more likely than Asians to do so.”

            “The Color of Crime drew me to this website. I recommend that posters who have not read it do so.

            I also recommend Mr. Taylor’s “Paved With Good Intentions.” Here are some passages from it: “Asians have faced fierce discrimination in America, but this has not stopped them from working hard and getting ahead. In fact, they have been so successful in ‘racist’ America that whites have even begun to complain about Asian achievement. Whether one looks at Japanese and Chinese, who have been in America for generations, or Koreans and Vietnamese, who have arrived more recently, Asians have been remarkably successful…

            “By 1969, Chinese as a group out eamed Italian, German, and even Anglo-Saxon Americans…

            “During the 1960s, Chinatown was the part of San Francisco with the most unemployment and poverty, the highest rate of tuberculosis, the least education, and the most substandard housing. Nevertheless, in 1965, only five people of Chinese ancestry went to jail in the whole state of California.”


          • a multiracial individual

            Don’t you get it yet you dolt?

            When Taylor, Rushton, Jensen, Lynn, Murray, etc, present information it is acceptable……

            When you or I present the exact same information, well, we are just anti-whites.

          • JohnEngelman

            There is a difference between race realism and race bigotry. Unfortunately some of the posters here do not understand the difference.

            I am not anti white. I am not even anti black. I do recognize that the races differ in ways that are significant, durable, and indicate genetic causation.

          • François

            But are Jewish people a race, or ethnicity, or rather, a religious and cultural group? And the Ashkenazi, who have Eastern and Central European roots (or partly, at least), look pretty white to me, in terms of physical appearance. I mean, just look at actress Jeri Ryan (née Zimmerman).

          • Sun

            A European Jew is white. Go back to Stormfront.

            The sheer blindness of your post really shows exactly why those Europeans who are succeeding aren’t people like you.

            Whether you like it or not, China is rising. You can bang on your drum about how great you are for being white and that isn’t going to do squat to change reality.

          • MikeofAges

            I.Q. score in the aggregate statistically correlate with the capacity for certain types of achievement. A simple score cannot tell you what a particular individual may be capable of. Or if they are capable of anything at all. But obviously more is better, meaning that more people with high IQ’s means more IQ-linked capabilities.

          • David Ashton

            Agree about moral rectitude and substandard (also ideologically leftist) teachers. The prospect of an average IQ of 500 is not likely in any event, but a population with the people noticeably brighter than the present would be more aware of genetic dangers as they go along. Nations themselves have been genetic experiments, and the general evolutionary trend has been “up from the ape”. There is no need to prevent this by dysgenic multiplication, or fail to improve it with a bit of positive and negative eugenics. Why shouldn’t clever and creative couples be encouraged to have relatively more children, and criminals and welfare-spongers to have fewer?

          • wattylersrevolt

            ?And who are these very clever people…Wall Street wheeler dealers? Hedge Fund high frequency traders….think tank policy wonks?….all of them were top students…tracked early into the fast track with IQ tests…and they are a cancer on Native Born White American Socety..and the human species at large.

            Why anyone would want to put their kids fate in the hands of a freak such as Linda Gottfiedson is beyond me.

          • David Ashton

            I have repeatedly stated that intelligent criminals can be more dangerous than stupid ones. The creative people I have in mind are scientists, constructive entrepreneurs, composers of quality music, etc. Not the racketeer cliques ably exposed by for instance Max Keiser in his Russia Today report.

        • captainc

          what’s your conclusion then, i couldn’t find your comments.

    • A. Windaus

      I am certain that it will be intelligent people who will come up with the ideas needed to fight pollution, but I must admit I am sceptical it can done in a capitalist society unless the government starts to offer incentives for those who attempt to solve these problems (I’m a big fan of the X-Prizes).

      • Cherry Bomb

        China is one of THE biggest polluters if not THE biggest world polluter.

        In the past few days, 13,000 dead pigs were found in river near Shanghai. This is the same river from which the city’s drinking water is drawn.

        The Chinese aren’t known for their environmentalism.

        • Northerner

          We sent most of our manufacturing to them… and all the pollution that came with it. Criticizing China on its environment now would just be a D-bag move, and they’ve called us out on it.

    • QuinnTheEskimo9

      Goes to show that IQ tests don’t measure ingenuity, imagination, talent, vision, dexterity, resilience, courage, desire, motivation, independence, self-control, honesty, etc which are all genetic traits and qualities that Whites overwhelming possess over jews, asians and blacks.

      • JohnEngelman

        Ashkenazi Jews have the highest IQ of any ethnic group known.
        They average around 112-115, well above the European norm of 100…

        Their numbers among prominent scientists are roughly ten times greater than you’d expect from their share of the population in the United States and Europe. Over the past two generations they have won more than a quarter of all Nobel science prizes, although they make up less than one-six-hundredth of the world’s population. Although they represent less than 3 percent of the U.S. population they son 27 percent of the U.S. Nobel prizes in science…

        American Jews are also over represented in other areas, such as business (where they account for about a fifth of CEOs) and academia (where they make up about 22 percent of Ivy league students).

        – Gregory Cochran and Henry Harpending, from “The 10,000
        Year Explosion: How Civilization Accelerated Human Evolution,” Chapter 7:
        “Medieval Evolution: How the Ashkenazi Jews Got Their Smarts,” pages
        188, 189, 190.

        • NeanderthalDNA

          But John, you Jew loving, East Asian loving fool, don’t you get it?

          If one group (like the Ashkenazi Jews) does well vis-a-vis other groups (especially ours) this means that since nobody is smarter than us Aryan Whites, and since Ashkenazi Jews do better than us…

          It MUST be because they are evil. And shifty. And too, if East Asians and Ashkenazi Jews score higher on average IQ tests…must be something wrong with the IQ tests…some chimeric intellectual quality those things aren’t measuring right…

          OK, sarcasm over. It truly amazes me the amount of histrionic flak your posts elicit from those who seem to feel as threatened by any science that suggests anything other than “we’re number 1 in everything, woot woot!” as any black when shown the results of real science regarding his TRULY abysmal average IQ…

          Again, perhaps we will find something beyond raw IQ in the equation, and too I wonder who is included in the definition of “white” but as of now I think the oft quoted figures on group IQ are valid and indeed mean something.

          As I’ve pointed out above, a slightly lower average IQ for whites could actually explain the West’s dominance. Perhaps Whites have been slightly more likely to take dangerous risks as a result of slightly lower IQ, which resulted in big pay-out when smart and resourceful Whites managed to avoid disastrous ends to foolishly risky ventures. Just putting it out there.

          • David Ashton

            I don’t think white Gentiles should insult Ashkenazi Jews because of a far from huge difference in average IQ scores, but birds of a feather not only flock together but tend to feather their own nests; this is almost an ethnic sociological axiom, and more intelligent birds will do it all the more. What matters with any individual or ethnic group is what they DO with whatever brains they have. You can have intelligent scientists – and criminals.

          • NeanderthalDNA

            Yeah, good point. It is what it is. I do think anything resembling a “Protocols of Zion” view of Jews does nothing good for our struggle.

            It alienates them from us and impels some who would otherwise be on our side away from us. Like how Hitler lost Einstein and other big Ashkenazi brains by his actions and ideology.

            Look how that worked out for him, eh?

            I look at the common sense ethnic and hard immigration stances of Israel and think to myself…

            How could any white not respect these guys? If we make our tent too small and restrictive, we won’t have a tent one day.

          • David Ashton

            There was a female physicist of Jewish heritage experienced in the nuclear field they tried to retrieve, with the prospect of Hitler’s personal protection and a postwar estate, but too late. If the Nazis had confined their anti-Jewish discrimination to the political and cultural sphere, instead of developing a policy first of total expulsion and then at least partial “liquidation”, they would not have incurred so much enmity, despite the admiration by some Jews for various positive achievements before 1938.

          • NeanderthalDNA

            I’m always amazed at the Nazi policy toward the “mischling”. To me it punches holes in any vestiges of appeal of the ideology, of it’s ultimate moral retardation. Some folk of Jewish background were given passes and a half Jew was the poster boy for Aryan martial manhood…

            Ie, the Nazis were opportunists willing to throw some fellow Aryans under the bus like inconveniently located Slavs, as well as many people (Ashkenazi Jews) who could physically pass for “Aryan” (and whose modern genetic tests would show ecactly why).

          • a multiracial individual

            High IQ people tend to be averse to risk. For every Wright Brother there are countless other smart men who all wasted their time. The ones who make radical changes in history are a small sliver taken from a group of bold men, 99.99% of whom never accomplish anything significant. How many men toiled for countless hours with some gadget, contraption, equation, etc. and never discovered anything of value? If we knew the actual number, it might retard progress because people would be less willing to invest in such high risk projcts.

          • Cherry Bomb

            Nope. Many whites were killed by their own inventions by taking huge risks. I doesn’t matter whether 99.9% didn’t accomplish a thing, what matter is that whites like Newton, Gauss, Galileo, Darwin, Edison and Watt DID accomplish those things which forwarded western civilization, including the very technology you are using now.

          • a multiracial individual

            Most people where not killed by their gadgets, the project just never went anywhere. And yes, I think that boldness does help SOCIETY get ahead, I was just sparing a thought for the poor tinkerers that wasted their time instead of doing something more practical.

          • NeanderthalDNA

            That’s what I’ve been thinking, so you must be on to something…lol…

            But yeah, exactly. If there is a legitimate 5-6 point difference in IQ between “white” (again poorly defined and rather controversial term here as well as elsewhere, given), this alone could explain a lot. Could.

            5-6 points is not that much, but indeed we find that IQ is inversely related to risk taking. Think about the grand scope of Euro vis-a-vis EastAsian civilizations. Certainly analysis of History is fraught with all sort of pitfalls and Lord knows what the exact mix of nature and nurture results in outcomes, but…

            I think about those desperate, wild eyed Europeans who set out across an unknown, uncharted, vastness of ocean based on what at the time must have been some pretty “iffy” suppositions. Perhaps a few more IQ points would have resulted in some more second thoughts, a resolution to stick with what is known and defined rather than risk all on what could end in disaster. But then halfway across the unmeasured sea, with the crews grumbling and getting sick and freaking out, level heads prevailed and the pay-off for a perhaps rather foolishly risky venture resulted in MASSIVE pay off…

            Multiply this countlessly over centuries, with many noble and sort of foolish endeavors crashing and burning, but, as a result of the fact that a 100 average IQ still produces a goodly number of geniuses, enough paid off and paid of big time that the aggregate result was a group of 100 average IQ folk outperforming a bunch of 105/106 average IQ folk in terms of science and economics.

            Can, as many hard core liblefties seem to exemplify (who appear to have a FEW more IQ points according to several credible studies), one be a little too smart for one’s own good, especially when in large groups? Does a few more average IQ points also potentially enable people to construct more complex mental scaffolding to justify idiotic ideology, for example?

            Also as we learn more about how important heredity is, as we recoil in horror at the indoctrinated social scientists who refuse to accept any role for genes and heredity in explaining human group behavior, let us not not throw the baby out with the bathwater and completely ignore or discount all theories of how environment does affect behavior, etc. The irony is that if we accepted the reality of genetic bases for behavior, we might be able to more effectively deal with this reality by environmental factors.

            But with the only explanation for any and all group pathologies being “somebody done somebody wrong”…

            Whites be the new Jews!!!!

            But I gotta say, the screechy histrionic tone of the Jew and Oriental bashing here reminds me of some excuse making, insecure, 85ish IQ American black slurring all smarter than him as evil…and not liking the fact that facts suggest another option…

          • a multiracial individual

            Yes, high IQ people tend to be more empathetic and egalitarian (therefore more repulsed by the idea of racial differences). High IQ people also are able at conjuring elaborate explanations/justifications for their beliefs. No one should think that high IQ might not come with liabilities. Believing your own B***sh*t appears to be one of them.

            Many Blacks and Hispanics attribute white success to: thievery, nepotism, unscrupulous business practices, outright oppression, etc…..

            Sound familiar?

          • JohnEngelman

            Race realism entails a realistic assessment of how races differ. Indeed, that is the essence of race realism. When I point out that Ashkenazi Jews and Orientals are more intelligent on the average than white Gentiles I find it easy to substantiate my assertions with articles I have found on this American Renaissance website.

            I also have an easy time substantiating my assertions that Orientals have lower rates of crime and illegitimacy than white Gentiles with sources I have found here. I have not found how Jewish and white gentile rates of crime and illegitimacy compare. Nevertheless, I am confident that Jewish rates are lower.

            Stereotypes are usually over generalizations of what is really true. Nevertheless, I have never found credible statistics that Jewish businessmen are less honest than Gentile businessmen, that Jewish money lenders charge higher interest rates, that Jewish landlords charge higher rents, and so on.

            The stereotype of the dishonest Jewish businessman was invented and is maintained by those who resent Jews for success they have earned and which they deserve because of superior merit. Antisemitism is the socialism of the sewer. It combines left wing politics of envy with right wing race bigotry. The Jews are quite simply an asset for any country with a large number of them. The same can be said of Orientals.

          • NeanderthalDNA

            Yeah, seems some here love to rag on you. Guess you’re the goat. At least you serve a purpose, lol.

            But I think one of the most effective aspects of the Amren approach to our plight is precisely it’s devotion to science over histrionics and ideology, which includes Jared’s open acknowledgement of what science seems to say.

            Seems to, since who knows what may be discovered in the future that again alters our view of our universe?

            The volume and nature of people’s criticism of your opinion bespeaks to me of a certain insecurity and prickliness that in my experience suggests you hit upon Truth more than the alternatives and that presents problems to many when the Truth isn’t amenable to self esteem…

          • JohnEngelman

            Eric Hoffer put it best when he wrote in “The True Believer, “The less justified a man is in claiming excellence for his own self, the more ready he is to claim all excellence for his nation, his religion, his race or his holy cause.”

            Most people allow their likes and dislikes to influence their judgment of what is true and false. I do too, but I make an effort not to.

            It unfortunately seems to be the case that in order to recognize the truth about blacks one usually needs to have been a victim of black crime. Until that happens most whites are able to make excuses for blacks.

            Because I have had good experiences with Orientals it is easy for me to recognize the truth about them.

            Because the neighborhood I grew up in had lots of Jews in it I feel that they are “getmutlich.” That is German for “cozy, comfortable, enjoyable.”

          • David Ashton

            Would it not be refreshing if you could say all this in the two previous posts in different words or ways? Almost every sentence has been seen verbatim many times before on this site.

          • François

            About “Orientals”: the IQ averages in certain Asian countries such as Indonesia and Thailand, differ significantly form those in Japan and China. Asians are not one big monolithic entity, Mr Engelman. I have seen data, and over the years, have met quite a few people from that part of the world.

        • QuinnTheEskimo9

          Richard Lynn’s work has found that Ashkenazi Jews in Britain and the US have average IQ’s of 110.7 and 110.4 respectively.

          Because Jews are such a small percentage of the population, there are far more European-Americans and native Brits with IQ’s above either 130 or 145.

          At elite universities, on the basis of IQ, the ratio of non-Jewish Whites to Jews should be around 7 to 1 (IQ >130) or 4.5 to 1 (IQ > 145). Instead, the ratio is at most 1 to 1.

          The only explanation is that Whites of European extraction are being systematically excluded and displaced to the point that they are now underrepresented in all the important areas of the elite compared to their percentage of the population.

          • David Ashton

            Engelman has bypassed your valuable point about other valuable traits.

          • JohnEngelman


            When I try to find out where truth lies on a complex and controversial subject emotionally charged language inclines me to give greater credence to the opposite viewpoint.

            When I started to read the article you posted a link to I saw this, “His dissection of Alan Dershowitz is classic—the supreme arrogance and hypocrisy of Dershowitz’s fanatic ethnocentrism that is entirely mainstream in the Jewish community.”

            These are the words of a crank who is motivated by his hostility to the Jews, rather than to his love of the truth.

            It is well known that in the past Ivy League universities had quotas to keep Jews out.

            The following book review of Richard Lynn, “The Chosen People: A Study of Jewish Intelligence and Achievement,” appeared on American Renaissance on December 29, 2011. I think it gives a more credible explanation of Jewish success and prominence.


            The Chosen People: A study of Jewish Intelligence and Achievement is the most recent work of Richard Lynn dealing with group differences in IQ and their ramifications. As in all of his previous work over the past decade, he substantiates his arguments with huge quantities of empirical data. He advances his positions dispassionately and lets the facts speak for themselves, which they do in impressive, nearly irrefutable fashion…

            Prof. Lynn writes: “They arrived as penniless refugees unable to speak the languages of their new countries; they were the “huddled masses” from the most backward region of Europe. Yet by the middle decades of the 20th century, the children and grandchildren of these immigrants were doing far better than their Gentile hosts on all indices of socioeconomic status and earnings and outperforming them by several orders of magnitude in obtaining elite academic distinction.”

          • David Ashton

            I cannot understand how in your acquaintance with Jews you have failed to noticed ethnocentricity. Among my large newspaper subscription in Britain I take the “Jewish Chronicle” and just occasionally consult Jewish sites on the internet. Ethnic self-interest is obvious.

          • JohnEngelman

            Because the Jews have throughout their history been persecuted, and because powerful enemies have tried to annihilate them I am not surprised that they are ethnocentric.

            One of my favorite passages in the Bible is Psalms 129: 1-2 Many a time have they afflicted me from my youth, may Israel now say: Many a time have they afflicted me from my youth: yet they have not prevailed against me.

          • David Ashton

            So you now agree that Jews generally are ethnocentric. Only today I read in the “New Statesman” an article praising the “great” American novelist Philip Roth and comparing him with the more overtly Jewish Nathanael West, Barry Malzberg, Norman Mailer and Abbie Hoffman; it is by Jonathan Lethem who says the “majority” of his fellow-Jews are raised to take being Jewish “personally”.
            Which came first, Jewish ethnocentrism or the hostility of other peoples towards it? The document library known as the “Bible” itself gives the answer to an impartial sociologist. That is not, of course, a justification for wholesale persecution. Esau’s tears.

          • JohnEngelman

            Which came first, Jewish ethnocentrism or the hostility of other peoples towards it?

            – David Ashton

            Two things separate Jews from other people: their religion, high average IQs. I have not found statistics on Jewish rates of crime and illegitimacy, but I suspect that they are lower than rates for white Gentiles, perhaps much lower.

            Also, is American Renaissance the place to condemn ethnocentrism? Most of the posters here seem to be ethnocentric. I am not. I like diversity. I only want it to be voluntary and earned.

            My objection to the Negro population in the United States is not that Negroes look and sound different from me. It is that they have a much higher crime rate than other peoples.

          • David Ashton

            I am not sure whether you have really answered my question. In the Bible Jews describe themselves as a people specially chosen by the Creator above all others to whom other nations should give tribute; and in the conquest of the “holy” land quite happily bumped off other occupants or rivals. In crude summary, subsequent civilizations have regarded them as a self-segregating, nonconformist though in some respects admirable people, but when their presence and activities become too obtrusive and annoying to others among whom they dwell, they arouse hostility.

          • JohnEngelman

            Jews are less unanimous on easing immigration restrictions, or anything else, than is the employer investor class.

          • Cherry Bomb

            Richard Lynn, one of the world’s foremost IQ experts, has performed an exhaustive literature review and located some 32 IQ samples of American Jews, taken from 1920 to 2008. For the first 14 studies conducted during the years 1920–1937, the Jewish IQ came out very close to the white American mean, and it was only in later decades that the average figure rose to the approximate range of 107–111.

            On the basis of Richard Lynn’s estimates of Ashkenazi Jewish IQ [110.7] and correcting for the greater numbers of European Whites, the ratio of non-Jewish Whites to Jews should be around 7 to 1 (IQ >130) or 4.5 to 1 (IQ > 145). Instead, the ratio of non-Jewish Whites to Jews is around 1 to 1 or less. (See here.) … The brouhaha that engulfed the Princeton campus because Jews were “only” overrepresented by around 6.5 times their percentage of the population suggests that there is considerable pressure for high levels of Jewish admission. The Daily Princetonian ran four front-page articles on the topic, and the New York Times ran an article titled “The Princeton Puzzle.” (See here; the original NYTimes article is here.) Clearly anything less than 20% Jewish enrollment would be met with raised eyebrows and perhaps intimations of anti-Semitism. The big picture is that this is a prime example of the corruption of our new elite. (see “Jewish overrepresentation at elite universities explained”)

            The Chosen People: A Study of Jewish Intelligence and Achievement (2011) Richard Lynn

            “The Strange Collapse of Jewish Academic Achievement”


          • JohnEngelman

            Crediting Jewish achievement to some sort of Jewish conspiracy is like blaming black poverty on white racism.

          • David Ashton

            There may actually be a little bit of truth in both explanations.

          • a multiracial individual

            [Goes to show that IQ tests don’t measure ingenuity, imagination, talent,
            vision, dexterity, resilience, courage, desire, motivation,
            independence, self-control, honesty, etc]

            [Because Jews are such a small percentage of the population, there are
            far more European-Americans and native Brits with IQ’s above either 130
            or 145…At elite universities, on the basis of IQ, the ratio of non-Jewish
            Whites to Jews should be around 7 to 1]


            How do you know that IQ 140 Jews don’t just study more than IQ 140 Whites and Asians? I mean, after all, you did champion the idea that motivation, desire, self-control, and matter.

          • Cherry Bomb

            You’re grasping at straws to justify discrimination against whites.

            Ron Unz (who is Jewish) writes about the decline of Jewish achievement in education:

            Pay attention engelman.

            “The underwhelming percentage of Jewish students who today achieve high scores on academic aptitude tests was totally unexpected… An examination of other available statistics…provides evidence for a dramatic recent decline in the academic performance of American Jews.”

            Evidence here:

            Unz’s table on p. 31 (see below) shows that Whites are underrepresented compared to their population at all elite universities. Whites are therefore highly discriminated against: “Based on reported statistics, Jews approximately match or even outnumber non-Jewish whites at Harvard and most of the other Ivy League schools, which seems wildly disproportionate. Indeed, the official statistics indicate that non-Jewish whites at Harvard are America’s most under-represented population group, enrolled at a much lower fraction of their national population [18%] than blacks or Hispanics, despite having far higher academic test scores.”

            The numbers for Jewish overrepresentation compared to Whites are even more striking. Corresponding to the collapse of Jewish academic achievement has been an increase in the percentage of high-performing Whites in math and science competitions. And whereas the performance of Jews has declined dramatically, the performance for Whites has stayed approximately the same—an amazing and very heartening finding considering the corrosive effect of the MTV culture and a public school system whose main function would seem to be spewing multicultural propaganda and White guilt rather than academic rigor.

            Based on the overall distribution of America’s population, it appears that approximately 65–70 percent of America’s highest ability students are non-Jewish whites, well over ten times the Jewish total of under 6 percent.


          • MikeofAges

            They also are not applying in the first place even when qualified. And not pushing the envelope in other ways either. Discrimination is not the only explanation.

        • François

          Yes, Ashkenazi Jews have a higher IQ average than say, Sephardic Jews… and they have a lot of European blood in their veins.

    • NeanderthalDNA

      I don’t know man…I like science. I like numbers. I like the truth even if I don’t…like it.

      I won’t deny the possibility that IQ may not measure “creativity” or whatever wishy washy amorphous jibber jabber other than raw computational power we want to water the question down with…sure, it’s likely a complicated reality with plenty of theoretical possibilities that we non-Jew Whites really are better than everyone else, blah blah blah…

      Really. Coming from education, I’m just sick of all the obfuscation that results from trying to find holes in tests that point toward conclusions one finds personally disturbing and threatening. Like, “Suzy just doesn’t take tests well” or “Jayquan scores low on IQ tests but has highly developed social and musical intelligences”. Yeah, well maybe Suzy doesn’t take tests well because she’s not too bright, or perhaps Jayquan has a 70 IQ and is great at being a borderline retarded black, which includes incessant rapping and yacking on the phone with his homeys and ho’s.

      But again I suspect there may be truth to the “IQ isn’t the whole picture” canard. On the other hand perhaps the White, European’s willingness to take more risks is a function of slightly lower average IQ. Perhaps Whites have taken more risks because of this, but with many smart and resourceful tindividuals – despite the over all lower average – were able to make many foolish long shots pay off, the size of the reward commensurate with the risk.

      I don’t know, I just hate excuse making and insecurity even when practiced by my own people. Whatever it is, it is, like it or not.

      One thing for sure, the Chinese are going to find and disseminate the scientific Truth before we will – because our ideology will not tolerate the Truth. Once they have proven it, all will fall apart like a house of cards.

      So hurrah for the evil Chinese! As some have pointed out, they are evil like us Whites! Success = EVIL and shifty, like Jews, LOL!!!!!

      (Hey, they got high IQ’s too. Must be EVIL!)

    • François

      You are right. Too many people seem to believe that IQ is really synonymous to intelligence.

      An IQ is just a result or score, to a test. Such results are compiled and treated as statistical numbers, and that results in a bell curve distribution.

      IQ is not a direct way to measure human intelligence, the same way you can measure someone’s height or weight. But it is SUPPOSED to provide a reflection of someone’s intelligence, or at least some of their intellectual abilities.

  • tarczan

    What was their selection process?
    They seem mostly interested in people of Chinese and European descent.
    What, no Africans? That’d be raciss.

  • Charles W.

    Oh no, please! There’s that terrible, dreadful word! Anything but..

  • sbuffalonative

    …while the west practices dysgenics in an attempt to make everyone equal.

    • PBL

      The last paragraph is the giveaway. We worry over preempting Nature or God. We should be thinking: God or Nature gave us reason, it is unreasonable not to use it.

      Left and right both are slaves of 1960’s neo-Romanticism. What a destructive generation.

    • QuinnTheEskimo9

      While the alien culture that has now has control of the West attempts to make everyone equal –while holding themselves apart, of course.

      • François

        Oooohhh… You are very close to revealing the whole truth, here, my friend!

      • a multiracial individual

        People around here who do not like “them” are mostly paranoid crazies. It is the same rhetoric I hear about Whites from Blacks and Mestizos.

  • ConcernedYoungAmerican

    This is exactly what we would have done had the right side won WWII.

  • crystalevans

    I read once where young Asian women in Los Angeles were being paid as much as $25,000 for egg donations to couples from China. They were looking for those who had good grades, went to a top university and had high test scores.

  • NorthernWind

    Maybe the Chinese will invade Europe. I bet they would do a better job of preserving our kind than our current leaders. That’s just how bad our current elite is.

    • Nathanwartooth

      Why invade? Just wait for the collapse and buy everything.

    • a multiracial individual

      [Well, I’m merely interested in the preservation of civilization,
      regardless of where it is. Some people are so afraid, of say, the Asians
      taking over in this country. Well if they can take over and do a better
      job than the rest of us, if they preserve the great things of both
      Western and Asian civilization, well I don’t think the world will be
      worse off. Race and color and national origin and that sort of thing,
      don’t really matter much to me at all. I’ve just never thought along
      those lines.]

      – Arthur Jensen, Amren interview, 1992

      The Chinese might protect Whites from the third world hordes more than White liberal leaders. I’m not saying I buy this idea completely, but it is possible.

      • QuinnTheEskimo9

        Preserve and protect Whites? No, they won’t. Chinese are fiercely ethno-centric. If resources are scarce, such as food and water, do you really think the Chinese would share these things with whites at the expense of their own children? Or would they use deadly force to procure resources for only their own people? WE are an endangered species, they are not. Numbers are not on our side.

        D you think whites will elude slaughter, from people who don’t look like and think like us?

        Quisling Whites, in South Africa helped install the Black racists thugs, the ANC. And now, if they are lucky, they can flee for their lives. Do you think this won’t happen to whites?

        • David Ashton

          Quite so. Jensen’s “ifs” are big, and unnecessary to contemplate if we do a better job ourselves. He is being disingenuous. National origin, for example: he thinks and feels like a white English-speaker, not a Han peasant fluent in Mandarin and loyal to the Middle Kingdom and its current “emperors”.

        • Northerner

          The Chinese might be “fiercely ethnocentric” but that doesn’t mean they want whites gone. In fact, China has never waged war against anyone outside of Asia in its entire history. For some odd reason, people think they’re going to start now. It’s all irrational fear. If the Chinese become hostile, it will because their country is being threatened, or is in otherwise imminent danger.

          • QuinnTheEskimo9

            China is busy colonizing Africa, Tibet and the U.S. This IS waging war. Human history is all about fighting over resources such as food, shelter and especially water. When resources become scarce, as they will be in the future, people become extremely ethnocentric which is normal and natural, it’s how our respective DNAs were preserved. We didn’t survive by being nice and sharing with others. The Chinese are no exception. They will kill Whites if it comes down to saving their own children or whites.

          • François

            ” They will kill Whites if it comes down to saving their own children or whites.”

            While many Whites adopt Chinese children… What is wrong with White people???

            What’s next? The UN will create a new international law, making it illegal for Whites to have White babies and raise their own children, while we will be forced to adopt kids from overpopulated non-White countries?

          • Northerner

            That’s pure speculation. The Chinese aren’t colonizing America. Asians in general are only 4% of the population, and the subset which is Chinese is probably half or less than that. China has a greater claim to Tibet than the U.S. does on Texas. So the issue of Tibet is irrelevant because there’s no way it’s going to be independent. Colonizing Africa? not in the way that Europeans did, plus I think the locals would know if they were.

          • François

            ” In fact, China has never waged war against anyone outside of Asia in its entire history”.

            But did they have the ability to actually do it, before?

          • Northerner

            The Chinese had ships before the vikings did, and knew about the Americas. Instead of landing and brutalizing all the natives, they left them alone and returned home.

          • A. Windaus

            China IS in imminent danger: the Gobi Desert is expanding in every direction at 1 mile per year; by 2050 it will have completely overtaken Beijing, displacing over 21 million people in the city itself and all those in its path.

      • Bob Wallace

        People who think China is going to be a 21st great power don’t know much about China or the Chinese.

        • a multiracial individual

          21st century? 22nd? 23rd? In the long run, it’s all about who gives birth to more talented individuals. The West is doing all it can at the moment to ensure that the least impressive people have the most offspring.

        • Northerner

          Given rapid demographic shifts, what makes you think America will continue to be?

          Sure, it’s still the richest country in the world, and will attract talent from around the world… but eventually the society will face other problems it won’t easily solve.

      • White Dragon

        Jensen was HALF Jewish

    • potato78
  • GM (Australia)

    This all sounds like eugenics, where are the howls of outrage from the loony left?

    • refocus

      It is only when white people do eugenics that the liberals get upset.

  • Troy

    If there’s one thing that the Chinese (as well as the Koreans and the Japanese) are good at, it’s believing that their own race and culture are better than everyone else’s. Even if it turns out that their genetic engineering efforts are futile or misguided, it is the motivating ideology that not only drives, but approves such efforts that would be viciously condemned were they to be mentioned in the US. There is so much qualitative difference in “intelligence” between races that even multicultis can’t ignore it, but instead of even daring to inquire if there is a biological factor involved, they shift the blame to everything and anything but – be it income, nutrition, elevation, or global warming. I would wager that research even implying a study between genes and intelligence would have any grant requests roundly rejected and the principal investigator censured.

    That is not to say, however, that I necessarily agree that China’s genetic engineering of genius babies will result in their unmitigated domination of the rest of the world. As many have mentioned, China has serious problems of its own, including rampant political corruption, abuse of human rights, and environmental pollution. Whatever high-IQ superhumans they might breed, a cultural milieu and the wisdom to maintain it are also necessarily for societal flourishing. While the US may have among, if not, the best foundations for a thriving culture out of all the countries today, wisdom is sorely lacking in those who seem blind to their efforts to eagerly uproot that milieu and in our climate of “affirmative action” and “equality,” we can forget about ever having “empirical studies” to research the truth about intelligence.

  • RisingReich

    Meanwhile we’re spending trillions we don’t have trying to engineer bantus into white people.

  • Extropico

    I watched The Bourne Legacy about a month ago; a CIA-run eugenics program that turned a low-IQ soldier into a genius with incredible physical capabilities was the central plot of the film. We probably are working on eugenics studies and they may be off the books in the budget for the spooks.

    • David Ashton

      Arthur Jensen had some private discussions with high-level NATO people some years ago. But military eugenics may be as illusory a hope as the last-stage Nazi super-weapon.

  • conrad

    Liberals hate anything & anyone that tries to lift mankind above the level of mediocrity. Conservatives are stuck in the past and are just too lazy to try anything new. NEITHER of them is of any real use to us. Try something new.

  • Paleoconn

    The White western world best box out China economically from their countries. As long as China is isolated they can only flex their muscle in Asia and in the 3rd world, especially Africa.

    • ConcernedYoungAmerican

      I’ve been saying this even before I was racially aware. The West must establish a unified geopolitical bloc AND ally with Japan and India to contain China. Of course, none of that will probably matter even in the short term because we are all rushing to destroy ourselves by creating white minorities throughout the Western world.

      • Northerner

        Given all the rapes and other indiscretions by Americans (especially military personnel) in Japan…. I wouldn’t be surprised if Japanese rage eventually reached a tipping point and our relationship with them became permanently worse.

        • ConcernedYoungAmerican

          I’ve read reports of that occurring on Okinawa and in South Korea. You’re right, they want us gone—but until Japan goes nuclear (I believe they will under PM Abe), they need us.

          • Cherry Bomb

            NO they don’t. Neither do the Europeans. Let S. Korea guard its own border. We need to concentrate on preserving the white race. Asian numbers are in the billions and their respective peoples are not facing genocide as we are. This is where our attention needs to be focused.
            Let Asians take care of themselves IN ASIA.

            History does not justify white genocide.

          • ConcernedYoungAmerican

            I totally agree with you; our military should be guarding the US-Mexico border to halt the flow of genocidal indios flooding in with the very intention of racial displacement.
            Unfortunately, the powers that be (probably including many military men) don’t see it that way. So we wait until our time comes and protect ourselves.

          • François

            Absolutely nothing does!

        • Cherry Bomb

          Blacks are committing those rapes and murders, not whites.

          I hope the Japanese DO kick out the American military.

          • Northerner

            It doesn’t matter whether the perpetrators were black or white. They’re all American and it makes no difference to the Japanese.

          • Temp8

            No, there are some whites in there too. Looked at the convicted felons.

      • Cherry Bomb

        “WE” are not destroying ourselves. This is being done to us and shoved down our throats by a nonwhite hostile elite that controls our government, media and academia. You have a lot to learn but you seem intelligent.

        Start here:

    • David Ashton

      Immediately after WW2 politicians across the spectrum saw Africa as the kitchen garden for Europe, and then anti-colonialism and anti-apartheid kicked in. What irony if the vast potential of that huge continent (not just elephant tusks) falls into the hands solely of the Chinese.

  • Barrack Osama

    That’s eugenics! I’m going to hold a protest outside my local Radio Shack about this.

  • paul

    Lol, All these ‘super geniuses’ will probably run for their lives at the sight of their own shadow.

    • Ted

      Maybe. I wonder how well they’ll do behind the wheel of a car. Skills like speed control, proper lane position/braking, and turn signal operation really come in handy.

    • Michael_C_Scott

      As a side bet, due to female infanticide, 80% of them will be male, and China will continue to collectively wonder why they have a shortage of young women.

      • Northerner

        They don’t have to wonder about it, they’ve known for a long time. It’s why lots of guys are finding wives in neighboring countries like Vietnam, North Korea, Thailand etc… In fact, China becoming more pan-Asian will probably benefit them in the long run.

  • Yerg Gantor

    Articles like this make me cringe. We as Whites could be YEARS ahead of the Chinese in this. However, we have thrown it all away for…. yep, black people’s self-esteem.

    Chinese probably laugh when someone calls them a Yellow/Chinese supremacist. Healthy, sane people are supremacists for their own race. Whites cower and mewl and look for a black to worship when someone calls us a White supremacist.

    Look at how far along they are. Yet the idiots in the White countries deny race exists!

    When the Chinese invent all the new technology, 200 or so years from now, what will left-wing White idiots be able to say? “Well, they may be smarter than us, but we worship black people!”

    Progress > “Diversity”

    From the bottom of my heart, I am grieved that we are not practicing eugenics.

    • Nate Miller

      While leftist dogma and PC norms have certainly destroyed this nation, it is unfair and incorrect to blame all or even most of our present woes on blacks or browns. The reality is that our culture in general is degenerating from the inside. Most white kids are sub par to their Asian counterparts in developing nations like China, Korea, India or even for that matter parts of Europe.

      There seems to be a culture of being lazy, overindulgent and stupefying stupidity if not mediocrity among most young whites. I mean look how our music and arts have degenerated in this generation. Millions of young white girls worship an effeminate no talented over rated bum from Canada named Justin Bieber or some low IQ sports star. Smart nerds are uncool but dumb jocks are cool! White youth have poor role models in crass low IQ white celebs like Lindsay Lohan, Honey Boo Boo, Hannah Montana, Selena Gomez and other such losers. In the United States immigrant kids from China and India excel and outscore white kids at intel science competitions for creativity and innovations. The world is changing and evolving. The big question is: are we adapting to the metamorphosis or are we going to be extinct like the Dinos?

    • Sun

      I don’t think anyone should be a supremacist because they devalue what others should think. The Chinese learned of eugenics and are open to change. We are stuck in our ways when it comes to healthcare, unable to progress. The current “progressives (note I used quotes)” despise eugenics on the basis of Liberal egalitarian morality.

      However, a big flaw of right wingers is that they think they’re great just due to the group that they belong, etc. Our European ancestors didn’t just boast about “being white” as the basis for their superiority. They actually did it and conquered the world.

      A wise person always learns from others.

      That is why the Chinese are advancing and we are not.

    • Northerner

      The Chinese have never claimed their reason for doing this was to be better than anyone else. They just think it would be better for their country, and its future. It can be assumed that the rest of East Asia feels the same way. The Western distaste for eugenics largely stems from Nazi Germany. The practice is associated with hatred, but since the Chinese are separate from western history, it doesn’t affect them. They also had no equivalent to Hitler, or explicit hate groups such as the KKK.

      While people think East Asians tend to be conformist, it’s balanced out by the fact they have a lot of controversial, non-politically correct pursuits.

      • Cherry Bomb

        No Hitler but Asia has had tyrants far far worse: Mao and Pol Pot.

        Hitler was at least pro-white, Mao and Pol Pot slaughtered millions of their own people.

        • Northerner

          That’s irrelevant. Mao and Pol Pot don’t have ties to eugenic practices (or at least none as extreme as Hitler’s).

          Mao slaughtering millions of his own people actually defies conventional thinking on here that the Chinese (or Asians in general) only support their own.

          • David Ashton

            Pol Pot’s slaughter was simultaneously dysgenic and racist.

          • Luis

            How is it racist, if Pol Pot slaughtered Cambodians? Both he and they were Oriental.

      • A. Windaus

        The Chinese have the Triads, the Japanese have the Yakuza. Neither of them are friendly towards outsiders.

    • François

      They already have a high national IQ average, in China. Do we want our Western countries to devolve into populations with averages ilke that of Ghana (which is 66, if I remember correctly)…?

  • johndoe101

    At least there is one country moving forward. Their human rights are horrible, but so were ours at the onset of the industrial revolution…. Timing is everything China has the world and the future at its fingertips. Political freedom political greed and most of all political correctness is the doom/ death rattle of the West. All you anti Asians etc lets put real life into perspective. They are the ones doing it not US!!! We can bitch and moan all day about past glory, but that doesnt really make the bed does it? Get out there get educated, be the best, lead by example and most of all reproduce!!!!!…

    • rightrightright

      I admire the Chinese for their achievements and their recovery after Mao’s murderous rule. I loath them for their cruelty towards animals – milking bile from captive bears, their hideous treatment of dogs, and so forth. It would be interesting to know if they are, as a people, somewhat short of the empathy and altruism genes.

      • Northerner

        China is still a developing country. Don’t forget that. The people who are cruel to animals probably don’t have much else going for them. It’s not something that’s pervasive throughout Chinese society.

        Saying they’re short on “empathy and altruism genes” is ridiculous. If they were, there’s no way their culture could have survived for as long as it has.

  • fakeemail

    I’ll take Chinese hegemony over Islamic. And if the Chinese are more willing to rough up Africans, Arabs, & Mexicans and bio-engineer me my own private “masseuse” I will defect because that would be a helluvalot than Amerika has ever done for me.

    • David Ashton

      Most of us don’t intend to surrender to either Han or Arab domination, least of all because of the gross improbability that they would provide you with a perfect sex robot.

    • Northerner

      China only seeks hegemony in East Asia, not the entire world. We could infinitely improve our relationship with China just by leaving Japan and South Korea (i.e., their backyard).

      • Cherry Bomb

        Not true. The Chinese are colonizing Africa and setting up Chinese colonies in the US.

        From a South African source:

        In the greatest movement of people the world has ever seen, China is secretly working to turn the entire continent into a new colony.

        Reminiscent of the West’s imperial push in the 18th and 19th centuries – but on a much more dramatic, determined scale – China’s rulers believe Africa can become a ‘satellite’ state, solving its own problems of over-population and shortage of natural resources at a stroke.
        The strategy has been carefully devised by officials in Beijing, where one expert has estimated that China will eventually need to send 300 million people to Africa to solve China’s problems of over-population and pollution.

        New horizons? Mugabe has said: ‘We must turn from the West and face the East

        45 Signs that China is colonizing the US:

        45 signs that China is colonizing the US

        • Northerner

          The Chinese have invested a lot in Africa and are overseeing their operations. It’s not exactly the same as western imperial colonization. You’d think Africans of all people would recognize if it were.

          • Cherry Bomb

            Nice try. Did you read the article?

            Africans ARE recognizing it –what’s the tradeoff? Chinese munitions are being shipped into Africa:

            “Chinese-made war planes roar through the African sky, bombing opponents. Chinese-made assault rifles and grenades are being used to fuel countless murderous civil wars, often over the materials the Chinese are desperate to buy.”

            “From Nigeria in the north, to Equatorial Guinea, Gabon and Angola in the west, across Chad and Sudan in the east, and south through Zambia, Zimbabwe and Mozambique, China has seized a vice-like grip on a continent which officials have decided is crucial to the superpower’s long-term survival.”

            “‘The Chinese are all over the place,’ says Trevor Ncube, a prominent African businessman with publishing interests around the continent. ‘If the British were our masters yesterday, the Chinese have taken their place.'”

            A staggering 750,000 Chinese have settled in Africa over the past decade. More are on the way.

            Don’t try to tell me that they’re all “overseers” — they are colonizers.

            “Across Africa, the red flag of China is flying. New embassies and air routes are opening up. The continent’s new Chinese elite can be seen everywhere, shopping at their own expensive boutiques, driving Mercedes and BMW limousines, sending their children to exclusive private schools.”

            “More than a thousand miles of new Chinese railroads are crisscrossing the continent, carrying billions of tons of illegally-logged timber, diamonds and gold.”

            How is that different from what the British did in the Indian subcontinent?

            “Exclusive, gated compounds, serving only Chinese food, and where no blacks are allowed, are being built all over the continent.”

            Now, would you like to discuss what the Chinese are doing to Tibet?

            But these aren’t “colonies” are they?

  • Shattered

    China engineers a new smart generation while American statistics reveal we are becoming dumber.

  • Morris LeChat

    Frankenstein’s monster comes to mind. How can someone create a being superior to them and expect it to serve their desires. IT wont. This will be the end of Chinese civilization, and the Chinese ethnic group, and the birth of something different. A genetically engineered, super intelligent group of people may have no qualms at all of destroying a billion Chinese. Once a living thing is created, self preservation is it’s primary function. Once they create a breed of super humans, self preservation will be that breeds primary function.

    • jambi19

      Read the article again. They could attempt to genetically alter “self-preservation” out of the genome. Even if it did get out of hand for the chinese. The party could easily go to the country side and round up a billion third worlders to crush the new species.

      • refocus

        They certainly have engineered self preservation out of the white people !

        Be it by vaccines, dysgenics, or media…

    • freddy_hills

      That’s not what the article said. They’re not going to engineer anything. They’re simply going to screen the couple’s OWN embryos for the smartest one.

      • François

        Classic eugenics, then, not genetic engineering of a new breed of Super Chinese.

    • François

      But these super intelligent people woudl be Chinese, after all. They of course would quickly rise to positions of prestige and power in their society.

      A breed of genetically engineered Chinese geniuses, destroying a billion Chinese? I don’t know… That sounds a little too much like a mixture of Blade Runner and Battlestar Galactica, too me.

  • whiteyyyyy

    So what?If the west practiced eugenics they raise the colored i.q. by 50 pts.They’ed find some labrador gene for the white’s to make them more pliable,the LAST thing I want to see is eugenics. Just screen for retard’s and birth defects and leave it at that. Maybe if you had a 95% White population. It seems like something far down on the list of priorities.

    • David Ashton

      Well, you have endorsed what used to be called “negative eugenics”.
      Positive eugenics: why not encourage intelligent whites (ideological leftists apart) to have more children, or even any?

      • concernedcollegekid


        My family is really liberal, and this Christmas I was at a family reunion and one of my cousins has a beautiful baby son and I said something like “He’s so cute, it makes me excited to have a baby of my own someday!” and immediately I was subjected to this PC RANT about how I was TOO YOUNG TO BE THINKING ABOUT THAT and had the WRONG PRIORITIES (I’m 21). It’s not like I said anything like “Man, I want to get knocked up and have an illegitimate child ASAP!”; I just said that the cuteness of our family’s new arrival made me excited to be a mom SOMEDAY. And that was not an acceptable thing to say at 21, apparently.

        I just thought it was weird and actually surprising. But I have found that most left-leaning, educated types will chastise educated young white women for talking about being mothers (even just TALKING about it) before they are out of college and grad school and “set in their careers”, etc, but when they see a black 17-year-old single mom of a few kids they will be afraid to criticize her and instead commend her for “doing the best she can under the circumstances”.

        I don’t get it. One time I asked my mom what she thought about the LONG term consequences of less intelligent people having the fewest kids and she said “Why would you spend energy worrying about something hundreds of years in the future?” and I said “Do you not want your great-grandchildren to have good lives?” and then basically she resorted to implying that dysgenics wasn’t a problem. I think she’s old enough that she’ll be able to fool herself all her life if she still is now. She definitely romanticizes ghetto blacks and will probably never have enough experience with them to stop.

        • concernedcollegekid

          In my last paragraph I meant “less intelligent people having the most kids”

          • David Ashton

            You are absolutely right – my male heart also leaps whenever I see a white child or a happy white family, and also when I see them achieve. In Britain our left-wing “intellectual” Sunday newspaper “The Observer” has for years had a blatant don’t-have-kids message, directed especially at well-educated women (while fawning on black entertainers and celebrities).

        • Cherry Bomb

          Well, now you know why the white race is dying.

  • eduard

    The concept of “Made in China. Store in a cool place. Do not switch on.” still stands. When seeing “made in PRC” or “made in China” , I will not buy it. Sometimes you find a product that does not state where it originates from.

    • Northerner

      Even if something isn’t Made in China… it’ll probably have parts of ingredients from China. Avoiding it isn’t possible unless you want to live like the Amish.

  • ConcernedYoungAmerican

    Someone brought up a good point on the comments section of the original article: What happens when a race can, legitimately and beyond any doubt, attest to being the world’s master race?

    • concernedcollegekid

      We start having to accept that all the other races are less masterful than them by varying degrees?

      • ConcernedYoungAmerican

        Do you think perception of the races will then be gradated? Because if/when this comes to fruition, no silly notions of political correctness regarding “equality” can ever be taken seriously again.

        The important question is if the new master race will see conquest as legitimate because lesser humans will be seen as a drain on resources. One can argue that we whites have been too “nice” in this regard. We got soft and forgot how to conquer in the name of nationalism because Social Darwinism and eugenics, while obviously spot on in retrospect, lacked scientific proof when whites unquestionably controlled the world and then were delegitimized by cultural Marxism after WWII. But if nationalism were reawakened….

        • concernedcollegekid

          “Because if/when this comes to fruition, no silly notions of political correctness regarding “equality” can ever be taken seriously again.”

          I’m afraid that the mainstream Western thought on race is already so stupid that I could actually see us continuing to preach egalitarianism within our own countries even as China does all this genetic tweaking to raise IQs there. I just wonder if the Chinese will be nice enough to be like “HEY WEST, BY THE WAY GUESS WHAT WE CONCLUSIVELY PROVED ABOUT RACIAL DIFFERENCES IN IQ THAT WE THOUGHT YOU MIGHT FIND USEFUL? USING NON-GENETIC TECHNIQUES TO CLOSE THE RACIAL ‘ACHIEVEMENT GAP’ WON’T WORK. YOU’RE WELCOME.” I actually don’t know what the Western liberal reaction would be if China made some sort of directly “racist” announcement about the conclusions of their work, such as saying the genes they wanted to select for were found predominantly in whites and Asians. I actually really don’t know. I could almost see the West just sticking its fingers in its ears because we’ve gone so far already down a path that’s wrong and the longer we do it, the harder it is to admit our mistake. The more race realism becomes known, the more people will realize that they have a legitimate right to be so mad at their government. I think the government is really afraid of race realism – and more cognizant of it than they let on – because if it gets accepted by a large enough number of people, the government won’t be able to deny that people have a right to be really, REALLY mad at them and really mad about affirmative action and all the tax money spent on a false premise. I mean, how could the government even begin to formally apologize for a mistake so huge and far-reaching? They would have to admit to demonizing so many people who were right all along…

          • I think the government is really afraid of race realism

            The powers that be are really afraid of white racial thought of any sort. I can prove it.

            George Noory and before him Art Bell get 4-5 hours a night on hundreds of radio stations to talk about UFOs, aliens and all sorts of weird stuff. Meanwhile, if Jared Taylor can count on more than one hand in a given year the number of times he’s on over the air broadcast media to talk about racial issues, he’s lucky.

          • concernedcollegekid

            Yup. If they thought people like Jared Taylor were wrong, they would let them talk all they wanted and just refute them.

  • BulgAryan

    China added $7.9 billion to its US Treasury holdings, which grew to a mammoth $1.16 trillion. In fact, China already does own the USA.

    • David Ashton

      Get your Congressmen to keep raising this treacherous scandal.

  • Elena Andbasket

    “Scientists have collected DNA samples from 2,000 of the world’s smartest people”. I’m guessing that, as part of this plan they’re not collecting anything from Africa. Meanwhile we’re importing millions of low IQ third world intellectual retards, who either marry their cousins and reproduce like there’s no tomorrow, or seek out and mate with the lowest dregs of our society. We are so ****ed. It’s like we’re living in the movie ‘Idiocracy’, but it’s a documentary. If China is successful whilst we continue on this path of intellectual degeneration, in a few generations they would be able to quickly and efficiently take over, easily sweeping aside whatever feeble and disorganized resistance our mixed up and dumbed down ‘descendants’ might be able to muster.

  • jeffaral

    W e are trailing behing the Chinese because of stone age Social Marxism and Cristianity. We are on the road to self-oblivian.

  • Luis

    The Chinese are attempting to better themselves through genetic engineering, while Americans are jacking around with zombies, vampires and Roswell-type aliens. The Chinese are trying to eliminate defects in humans that Americans celebrate in themselves; but would not tolerate in barnyard animals.
    Viva la difference!

  • Aelfgar

    Time to learn mandarin, looks like we’ll have asian over lords once again, maybe they’ll clear the muds, and liberals out of Europe and North America for us. But either way, the west is doomed.

  • Bill

    China is engineering genius babies? I wonder where they got all the Ashkenazi embryos?

    • Northerner

      They’re just looking for certain genes, the source can be from anywhere.

      • David Ashton

        There we are, Engelman. You fancy Chinese chicks. Now’s your chance to get the quick boat there and spread the computer-genius goodies like the east wind.

  • potato78

    The Chinese dragon is depicted as a long, scaled, snake-like dragon with
    five claws. The Chinese dragon is a symbol of auspicious power in
    Chinese folklore and art.

    • David Ashton

      The Indo-European and Semitic traditions value the divine hero who slays the evil reptile.

  • potato78
    Europe and China – West meets East.

  • Nobody

    Well it is only natural that China is engineering genius super-babies. I mean it should be fairly obvious to anyone that Asian people are insane and are not to be trusted.

  • I wonder if they got the idea from Nazi eugenics?