Fraud Concerns Linger over New Ill. License Law

NPR, January 27, 2013

As Illinois becomes the fourth and most populous state to give illegal immigrants permission to drive, nagging concerns remain about whether there are enough safeguards to avoid the identity fraud and other pitfalls other states faced.

Democratic Gov. Pat Quinn signed Illinois’ measure into law Sunday in Chicago. Backers, including Quinn, Chicago Mayor Rahm Emanuel and some of the state’s top Republicans, tout it as a public-safety measure. They argue that required facial recognition technology is reliable enough to prevent fraud.

They hailed it as an important step for immigrant rights in Illinois, which approved its own Dream Act in 2010 to create a privately-funded scholarship program for immigrant students. {snip}

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However, the law’s opponents have pointed to hundreds of fraudulent cases in New Mexico, Washington and Utah after those states began giving illegal immigrants permission to drive. Illinois will not require applicants to be fingerprinted, for fear that would discourage immigrants from applying.

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Proponents say it will allow an estimated 250,000 people unlawfully residing in the state to apply for a three-year temporary driver’s license and require them to get training and insurance. {snip}

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The licenses will be like those already issued to certain foreign-born, legal visitors. Applicants will be photographed, and their photo will be entered into the state’s facial recognition database—like the rest of Illinois’ licensed drivers—to verify their identity.

But other states’ driving programs for illegal immigrants have been abused. New Mexico and Washington both issue licenses, while Utah issues a permit.

An Associated Press investigation last year found a striking pattern in New Mexico, suggesting immigrants tried to game the system to obtain a license. In one instance, 48 foreign-born individuals claimed to live at a smoke shop in Albuquerque to fulfill a residency condition.

Authorities also busted a fraud ring last year that forged documents for illegal immigrants to use after driving from as far as Illinois and North Carolina to obtain a New Mexico license. Republican Gov. Susana Martinez has vowed for years to repeal the decade-old measure, but the Legislature has rejected such efforts.

Washington’s requirements attracted national attention when Jose Antonio Vargas, a Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist, revealed his illegal immigration status in an essay for the New York Times Magazine in 2011. Vargas chronicled how he obtained his Washington license. State authorities conducted an investigation that revealed Vargas did not reside at the address he stated in his application and canceled his license.

Utah’s permit is not valid for identification. Illinois’ law follows suit.

Utah’s Republican-controlled Legislature amended the state’s law in 2011 to require illegal immigrants to be fingerprinted, and mandates that the state notify U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement if an applicant’s fingerprint check yields a felony on record. If the applicant has a misdemeanor warrant outstanding, the state must notify the agency that is seeking the person’s arrest.

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  • We used to have a similar driving card for illegals in Tennessee. There used to be buses coming from the East Coast with people wanting to get this driving card even though they did not live in Tennessee. The program was eventually stopped by the legislature after several DMV officials were paid to give licenses to out of state illegals.

  • Puggg

    When you give people who shouldn’t be here a benefit they shouldn’t have, should you be surprised that there is “fraud?” This surprises me about as much as a story that is entitled, “Turning tap water on raises concerns about wet sinks.”

  • Greg Thomas

    The illegal invader’s entire existence is based upon fraud, from the moment they step foot
    in this country until they show up at the DMV to get their license. If they
    were genuinely concerned with fraud, they would enforce the law.

  • The__Bobster

    As Illinois becomes the fourth and most populous state to give illegal
    immigrants permission to drive, nagging concerns remain about whether
    there are enough safeguards to avoid the identity fraud and other
    pitfalls other states faced.

    ___________

    The stubbies have a tradition of drunk driving. The state should be sued if any of the ones they give licenses to kill or injure anyone.

    http://www.vdare.com/posts/san-antonio-boy-killed-by-drunk-illegal-alien

    San Antonio Boy Killed by Drunk Illegal Alien

    By Brenda Walker on January 28, 2013 at 11:22am

    In San Antonio, a six-year-old boy was hit by a drunk-driving illegal alien on
    Thursday evening and died en route to the hospital. First-grader Brandon Abrams
    (pictured) was struck as he rode his bike on the sidewalk while waiting for an
    ice-cream truck.

    The driver, 17-year-old Luis Enrique Landin, reportedly lost control of his pick-up when he reached for the cell phone he had dropped.

    Landin faces the charge of intoxication manslaughter and was driving without
    a license. Authorities placed an immigration hold on him, yet bail was set at
    $100,000. Go figure. Plenty of illegal alien criminals have used bail to depart
    for the dear homeland.

    http://www.limitstogrowth.org/WEB-Graphics/BrandonAbrams.jpg

    • The stubbies have a tradition of drunk driving. The state should be sued if any of the ones they give licenses to kill or injure anyone.

      Already was for the CDL scandal.

  • bigone4u

    Fraud is just one of many things our friends from Mexico are good at. Drunk driving, incest, pedophila, murder, theft, burglary. Oh, and the art. The grafitti is so magnificent. Then there’s diseases like TB and typhus. Let’s join with our Dear Leader Obama and welcome these new citizens to our neighborhoods. Welcome Wagon lady, where are you?

  • Lewis33

    NPR is the worst, ever. Aren’t we all so lucky we get to help support it every year with our taxes?

  • SintiriNikos

    As bad as NPR is, at least they used the correct term ‘illegal immigrants’ versus the bollocks ‘undocumented’.

    Immigration reform = amnesty for illegals. We don’t need new immigration laws and reform and all that BS. We need to start enforcing the laws that are currently in place.

  • IstvanIN

    Someone should give the Governor a Merriam-Websters dictionary so he can study up on the definition of illegal!

  • Bon, From the Land of Babble

    Well, it looks like Illinois has superseded California as American’s top welcoming state for illegal aliens!!

    Illinois will not require applicants to be fingerprinted, for fear that would discourage immigrants from applying.

    Do you folks in Illinois feel safer now? I’m sure the illegals will have full insurance coverage, understand American traffic laws and be able read road signs. Right?

    Local law enforcement officials pleaded in vain with legislators in favor of fingerprinting: ‘We could see if they have committed a crime; it could be a crime in another state or it could be a crime in their home country,’ said John Kennedy, executive director of the Illinois Association of Chiefs of Police.

    But, Illinois is a motor-voter state so all illegals with driver’s licenses will be able to vote….Democrat, of course. THAT’S all that matters to Pat Quinn.

    Maybe Texas could learn a lesson from Illinois and offer up their illegals state driver’s licenses since it makes everyone so much safer. Right?

    In San Antonio, a six-year-old boy was hit by a drunk-driving illegal alien on Thursday evening and died en route to the hospital. First-grader Brandon Abrams (pictured) was struck as he rode his bike on the sidewalk while waiting for an ice-cream truck.

    The driver, 17-year-old Luis Enrique Landin, reportedly lost control of his pick-up when he reached for the cell phone he had dropped.

    Landin faces the charge of intoxication manslaughter and was driving without a license. Authorities placed an immigration hold on him, yet bail was set at $100,000.

    http://www.limitstogrowth.org/?s=to+growth&submit.x=16&submit.y=11&submit=Search

    Safer? Yeah, right…

    Bon

    • IstvanIN

      Get off it, that kid had white privilege and would have grown up to be an oppressor.

      • Bon, From the Land of Babble

        He and his entire race deserve to be genocided for White Skin Privilege and for past bad acts of slavery, colonialism, raping the earth and for what they did to Native Americans.

        No other race on earth has ever been this evil!! We must prevent ourselves from forming a Fourth Reich — this kid looked like he could have been one of the leaders of a White Power movement in a few years. We must make sure ALL White homelands are turned over to the peaceful Third World in the name of social justice and gaia. Then Whitey will have nowhere to live, run or hide!!

        Except…I’m not sure this kid was White…maybe he could have worked for the FBI, then, as an infiltrator…

        We must end the White Race by any means possible!!

        Bon

    • NM156

      Illegals can buy auto insurance in IL now. Nothing is preventing them from buying it. Just ask my Chicago Allstate agent.

      • Bon, From the Land of Babble

        Ask your Chicago Allstate agent to make sure you have enough Uninsured Motorist coverage on your policy.

        I give you this advice from years of experience as a California driver.

        Bon

        • NM156

          Thanks for the advice, but I know all about it. Having Pedro slam into you with invalid insurance due to non-payment is old news. They’ll pay the first installment for the proof of insurance, then stop payments. The illegals will somehow be different.

  • Why would fraud be a concern?

    We have a governor in prison for selling CDLs to illegals.

    • NM156

      He’s being transferred to a halfway house soon…

      • Got there this morning.

        Salvation Army Freedom Center, 105 S. Ashland Chicago

        • A Federal prison cell is now open. Might as well save it, they’ll be needing to put Pat Quinn in it pretty soon.

  • NM156

    What fake foreign papers and ID wouldn’t work to get a license in IL? Getting fake foreign documents in Chicago is as easy as walking into an ethnic bar. Facial recognition technology? What a laugh. Even if that software were foolproof, facial recognition technology won’t prevent an illegal immigrant (or a crook from another state) from obtaining a first license. Immigrants can get auto insurance without a driver’s license as it is in IL, so this has nothing whatsoever to do with road safety. It’s all about aiding and abetting the ongoing invasion and pandering to ethnic political interests. It’s only a matter of time until an illegal commits a major crime facilitated by the use of a legal driver’s license. If we’re lucky, IL politicians will be implicated for an act of terror.

    • Facial recognition technology doesn’t work as well on at least one race as others.

  • E. Rekshun

    Another NAM immigrant involved in a tax refund scam: $11 million; where’s the money! I’m trying to be open-minded, but I have seen about twenty of these stories over the past year; each and every one of them a black person. I’m starting to think that the IRS is in on the scam as a way to funnel money to blacks. Usually, it seems that the scam always starts by some inside employee (always a black female, usually a clerk) stealing patient/coworker/customer/client SSNs and personal data. At this point, I think that any bank, hospital, doctors office, government agency that hires a black female who will have access to sensitive personal data is asking for trouble and should be held liable when it happens! It’s just too risky.

    Fort Lauderdale woman faces 351 years in prison in tax fraud scheme. (Good pic!)

    http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/broward/fort-lauderdale/fl-lauderdale-tax-fraud-conviction-20130129,0,3486742.story

  • E. Rekshun

    Another NAM immigrant involved in a tax refund scam: $11 million; where’s the money! I’m trying to be open-minded, but I have seen about twenty of these stories over the past year; each and every one of them a black person. I’m starting to think that the IRS is in on the scam as a way to funnel money to blacks. Usually, it seems that the scam always starts by some inside employee (always a black female, usually a clerk) stealing patient/coworker/customer/client SSNs and personal data. At this point, I think that any bank, hospital, doctors office, government agency that hires a black female who will have access to sensitive personal data is asking for trouble and should be held liable when it happens! It’s just too risky.

    Fort Lauderdale woman faces 351 years in prison in tax fraud scheme. (Good pic!)

    http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/broward/fort-lauderdale/fl-lauderdale-tax-fraud-conviction-20130129,0,3486742.story

  • mobilebay

    I guess the hundreds of murders by shooting isn’t enough in Chicago. Now, with illegals able to drive legally (somehow that doesn’t make any sense) we can expect more killings by drunk drivers, and I’m sure it isn’t confined to Chicago. The “Land of Lincoln” should be ashamed.