Michael Moore: Americans’ Desire to Own Guns Stems from Racial Fears

Jeff Poor, Daily Caller, December 20, 2012

Friday night, on the heels of last week’s mass shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary in Newtown, Conn., the left-leaning Current TV is planning to air progressive filmmaker Michael Moore’s ten-year-old Columbine documentary “Bowling for Columbine,” with Moore revisiting the film to accuse American gun-owners of being motivated by racial fears.

Gun ownership, Moore said, “cuts down to the heart of our race problem that we still haven’t resolved.”

“I think we’re a very frightened people,” Moore said. “I think we’ve been frightened ever since we landed on these shores. We were frightened of the native people.; we were frightened of the slaves we brought over, as we should have been. And those in power have known how to manipulate us with fear. And we’ve started wars over being told lies about, you know—whether it was in the Spanish-American War, the Mexican-American War. You can go through so many of these wars we’ve been in throughout history—right up through the Iraq War—where we’re just lied to because those in power knew if they just put enough fear out there. And the best kind of fear is the one that has the kernel of truth, so you have 9/11 happened—that’s a real incident, nearly 3,000 people lose their lives. Very easy at that point to use that fact in a way to tell a fiction.”


“And I was fascinated in that subject when making ‘Bowling for Columbine,’ of how fear is used to the point where everybody feels like they’ve got to have a gun in the house. Now, not every house has a gun but we’ve got over a quarter-billion guns in people’s homes. And they’re mostly in the suburbs and rural areas where there is virtually no crime and no murder. So why is that? What are they really afraid of? What do they think of—who’s going to break into the house? Do they think it’s little freckled-face Jimmy down the street? I don’t think so. I don’t think that’s who they’re afraid of. And it cuts down to the heart of our race problem that we still haven’t resolved. And I thought it would be interesting to take a look at that in the movie.”


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    Hey, Moore.

    Racial “fear” is exactly why I own guns.

    So, what are you going to do about that?

    • pcmustgo

      You must be a very frightened person to admit that.

      • OlderWoman

        DWL’s are very frightened. See how they run to their white gated communities as far from blacks as possible!

    • Oil Can Harry

      And racial fear is why Michael Mooron jetted out of his hometown of Flint, Michigan after it turned black.

      He now lives in another part of Michigan (no, not Detroit) named Torch Lake which Wikipedia describes as “98.98% white”.

      • OlderWoman

        Have pity on a fat guy. He wouldn’t be able to run if a black man tried to chase him down. Now he has a head start.

      • pcmustgo

        Race-baiting is all just one big game for White Liberals- one big sick pathetic game of self-righteousness and looking down on/attacking other whites.

  • No Michael, it’s not only “racial fears” that drive gun ownership… It’s the knowledge that our government can turn tyrannical that also drives it.

    Michael, you are a illiterate pus bag…

    I hope that the “homies” get you !

    • Pelayo

      Does any one remember the scene from Bowling for Columbine when he walked into a bank, opened an account and walked out of the carrying his new bolt action hunting rifle (without it being in a box) which was being offered as an incentive to open accounts? If one opened an account they would receive the rifle after a background check was complete. He walked out while his camera man captured the moment so it would look like anyone could walk out with the rifle immediately after opening the account.
      Michael Moore is living, breathing, walking validation of Hoffman’s Theory as well as a lying butt horn.

      And yes Mikey, we do keep firearms to protect ourselves and our loved ones from the Mau Mau.

      • The__Bobster

        The fat slob is the original video cut and paster. He distorts the truth and the libtards take his movies as gospel.

        • Joseph

          Poor choice of words. Gospel is to liberals as garlic is to vampires.

          • Pelayo

            I like that!!! May I use it?

          • Joseph

            Have at it!

      • Unperson

        Yes, I remember that scene. I also remember that accusations of sloppy, deliberately misleading journalism and of playing fast-and-loose with the facts, have dogged Moore ever since his first movie back in 1989. And not just from his ideological enemies on the Right but even from his fellow lib-left types like Pauline Kael, who even though generally sympathetic to Moore’s politics, couldn’t stomach his deceitful shuffling of chronology and other counter-factual duplicity. He has as much as admitted his tendentiousness and lack of impartiality, and that forced to choose between inconvenient facts and a good left-wing argument, he’ll take rhetoric over facts every time. Many on the Left consider him an embarrassment, who does more harm than good to their cause.

        • OlderWoman

          Certainly wish ‘many on the Left (would) consider Al Gore an embarrassment, who does more harm than good to their cause.’

      • Winston_Jack

        There is an excellent documentary called “Manufacturing Dissent” made by two disillusioned Canadian fans of Michael Moore. It completely debunks scenes like the one described above, and shows how Moore manipulates people and edits his scenes in order to look like he made a point. This is true right up to his disgraceful treatment of Charlton Heston, who was decent enough to invite him into his home and give him time for an interview.

        Given the fact that Moore’s charades have been known for so many years, he must have some amazing chutzpa to still keep parroting the same tripe–and have people fall for it.

        • Tom in MI

          Mr. Moore cleverly disguises himself as an obese redneck.

          • Joseph

            Once he starts talking though, the jig is up.

      • libsuxk

        Yes, and there was also a movie response to him. Forget the name of it, but it was good. It came out a few years after that Columbine dump.

      • Pelayo

        There was another word in front of “horn”. It was “butt”. I got the expression from a Gary Busey movie. That was his insult of choice for those whom he didn’t respect. I kinda thought it was more than appropriate for someone such as MM.

      • Luis

        Pelayo, a few years ago, after the Columbine school shootings – Michael Moore claimed that he is a life member of the NRA. Not sure if he’s lying, but if he is a member, NRA should throw him out, since he’s a quisling.

        Talk about the rankest hypocrisy!

        • Pelayo

          As a NRA member I’d cancel my membership if I thought that it was true. I’m confident that it’s a lie. I’d like to hear a statement from them one way or the other.

          • Joseph

            It would be easy enough for publicity purposes to join the NRA just to inflict what damage he can with the claim, like if I joined SPLC and then showed KKK promotional videos to create some type of false “insider” expertise.

            He’s an ambush journalist hack but that’s okay with his target audience of true believers.

    • Libsuxk

      I am more angry at my government than the black and mexican criminals because our government is trying to make it harder and more expensive for you and I to protect ourselves and our loved one from these parasites.

      • Joseph

        It would be preferable to stop the primary source of the problem and *stop importing and subsidizing* the underworld. What remains might then be managed by self defense and police.

    • Pelayo

      Don’t hold your breath. He’s well protected while quite soon, we’ll be defenseless, unless of course Obama decides to stay in Hawaii rather than come back to the Mainland and face the Benghazi and gun control music. If I were him I sure as Hell would.
      As for the “homies” getting him, do you think that he kept that bolt action rifle that he got from the bank? He’s hypocritical enough to have kept it.

    • Johnny Clay

      Moore is a useful idiot. He thinks that if you be nice to them, they’ll be nice to you. Time after time, that’s been proven wrong.

      • David Ashton

        “Nice” he is not.

  • nobody

    I have often wondered why black leaders wouldn’t encourage their community to improve their behavior. I finally realized that black violence and dysfunction is the root of their power. If they acted like humans they wouldn’t get the gibs, attention, and drama that they desperately crave.

    • The Verdict of History

      You’re right.

      I’ve said for years that gun ownership is an essential corner stone for European American preservation and defense against the hordes of Anti-Whites that pour into white suburban and working class communities.

      I stated this last night, and I’ll repeat it once more: Negroism is an evolutionary strategy to effectuate the displacement of White people in America…

      The gun is a last line of defense against this strategy, seeing that the white political establishment has entirely betrayed us.

      Gun bans make geographical replacement of White people easier for blacks to carry out their racially dysgenic activities like miscegenation, and economic terrorism like the plummeting of housing values and low interest loans to minorities in Euro-American neighborhoods – all of which are cleverly perpetrated under the guise of social justice. These are elements of a concerted strategy which Negroids and Chicanos have adopted and employed with tremendous success with the ultimate goal of DISPLACING EUROPEAN PEOPLES IN THESE UNITED STATES.

      Meanwhile, gun activists seem to shirk at the notion of calling out black gun-toting hooligans. That would be racially insensitive and would breach codes of political correctness.

      Instead, only gun-owning WHITES are branded as potentially dangerous, despite statistical evidence to the contrary…

      So restrictions on white gun ownership are promoted with the complicity of elites in the press, the entertainment industry (Hollywood), academia to facilitate the racial displacement with ease…

      A cunning, yet transparently obvious, scheme.

      • Pat Kittle

        “… the complicity of elites in the press, the entertainment industry (Hollywood and pop culture), and academia…”

        And who might be vastly overrepresented in those stats?


      • OlderWoman

        I’d be willing to bet that over 50% of music and film entertainers have guns. These people are generally fearful of many of their fans. They live in gated properties with massive security. Having worked in the music business in L.A., I know that several of my noteworthy clients were stalked by fans, some of which threatened their lives.

        • The Verdict of History

          As far as your first two sentences go… you succinctly crystallize what has been regularly described as “Liberal hypocrisy”…

          But I would submit to you that the phrase is oxymoronic…

          White elites, and, as Pat notes above, members of tribe who over-represent our entertainment industry, find themselves in the bind as they court the devil in his blackest of form….

          • Pat Kittle

            I think you mean “redundant” — “oxymoronic” means self-contradictory.

          • The Verdict of History

            Haha – silly me…

        • Tucker

          Brad Pitt is one such celebrity. Of course, this white race traitorous slab of human scum has good reasons to want to keep a firearm for self-protection in his own home, since his pea-brained wife is obsessed with adopting black kids from Africa and then turning these future gang bangers loose in his house, where they can grow like cancer tumors that will one day decide to slit his White throat as he sleeps.

          Incidentally. I think it is a worthwhile project to refuse to see ANY movie that this piece of race traitorous white filth appears in. Let’s help get this loser unemployed, ok?

          • Richard

            He also dated the Black actress Robin Givens. Apparently, Mike Tyson, givens ex-husband caught Givens and Pitt on the sofa in Givens apartment having sex! The guy is a race traitor like Paul Ryan and other White men who engage in miscegenation.

          • gemjunior

            Wow what a story. He’s lucky he’s still alive and Mike didn’t pulverize his pretty girly face with his jackhammer fist. Or bite his ear or nose off, African style.

          • schmenz

            I think Mr Pitt should have a gun to protect him from people who have to sit through his “performances.”

    • pcmustgo

      The root of their power is calling whites racists.

      • C_C_Conrad

        Just ‘demote’ their accusation to a personal opinion.
        – – In your opinion I’m a racist; you’re only saying that because I’m white. Anti-racism is just a code word for anti-white.


        Jack’s War

      • John

        The root of the problem is the people who taught them to call whites racist.

    • Descendants of cannibals behave the same no matter where they are. If they acted like humans they would truly be acting.

    • OlderWoman

      I believe they are incapable of functioning healthily. Look at Africa. Then look at Deetroit. Same destruction. There’s no hope for these people at all. They are LOST in their dysfunction. It is very rare that one breaks away from their culture. But then, the few successful ones generally side with the low class blacks because of skin color. We are beating a dead horse trying to help them improve themselves. They are a lost cause.

      • Johnnie Appleseed

        The African Economy is experiencing an economic revolution (See ““The Fastest Billion: The Story Behind Africa’s Economic Revolution,” and “As the Rest of the World Slows, Africa Accelerates”).

        • And yet in their cities they are putting their excrement in plastic bags and throwing it out the windows of high rises because they have yet to master plumbing, a very primitive technology that has been a mark of civilization for thousands of years.

          • Joseph

            Oh, they are using plastic bags for crap now? That IS an economic revolution!

          • George

            You mean they don’t store it in jars to make jenkem?

        • OlderWoman

          I saw the video. If true, no doubt this is because of the investments White countries and China have made in Africa. Meanwhile, they keep killing the White farmers. I believe this is partly propaganda.

        • That “acceleration” is directly & ONLY as a result that Africa is a vast reservoir of minerals & other natural resources that is being thoroughly exploited by China & it’s booming economy. Africa’s “prosperity” will be short lived. The wealthy oil shiekdoms of the middle east are rich not because of what their indigenous ihabitants have done, but because their lands sit on a sea of oil. It took the high I.Q. Nations of the west & east asia to figure out ow to extract, transport & refine that oil. To make use of that valuable resource.

          Once China has sucked subsaharan Africa dry, Africa will immediately revert back to its normal primitive/disunctional state.

          • NakedJusticeLeague

            Here is another scenario. African nations do prosper because of Chinese investments. Then, as soon as the money pours in, some African demagogue starts to rant against the Chinese invaders who are exploiting their people. They kick the Chinese out, confiscate their equipment, and completly screw it up.

          • Puggg

            Or, alternatively, and more likely, the Africans won’t start ranting against the Chinese because the Chinese won’t take any of their guff. Only gullible whites are fool enough to let that kind of stuff work on them.

      • [Guest]

        No, the solution to black dysfunction was found decades ago and is now firmly in place. It’s been implemented in two big ways—by (1) continually redefining “dysfunction” downward and unceasingly feeding it into the mainstream and by (2) making it unacceptable to speak honestly concerning the real dysfunction.

        A lost cause is not a lost cause when 100 percent of the time, year after year after year, through government and media, that cause is portrayed as a success.

        • OlderWoman

          But, redefining dysfunction downward and feeding it into the mainstream doesn’t change the facts. The fact will always be that this race is hopeless. All the Black education and affirmative action will never improve the black race. Sixty years of tax payer funded programs have done nothing. Blacks have got to make all the changes if they want their lives to be on the par with Whites.

          • [Guest]

            I understand. It’s just that for black dysfunction to be identified as black dysfunction, there must be an honest white person in the equation to point it out. In the absence of that, the most vile, depraved beast gets elevated to sainthood by nonwhites and quisling whites.

            As white standards fade into oblivion, nonwhites will ascend to ever-greater heights of self-aggrandizement. The only check would be the exhaustion of black self-love … and that appears to be inexhaustible.

          • OlderWoman

            Narcissism…must be genetic in the black race. Look at Obama.

          • Mike

            If they could’ve, they would’ve.

    • Why do black leaders hate it when white people hold a gun show relatively close to a ghetto? The NRA’s national convention has been in Downtown St. Louis twice in the last 10 years, most recently this past year, and both times, the local cracker jack box theology degree chittin’ eatin’ black preachers whined and moaned about it.

      I figured it out finally from your comment here: It “shows up” the ghetto. You can have a show or exposition of thousands and thousands of white people seeing, buying, selling (pending background check, of course) all sorts of small armaments, including those ranch rifles decorated with plastic accoutrements slandered as “assault weapons,” and there is not one violent crime at the event. Meanwhile, just a short walk away from the convention hall is a neighborhood where if you put just five of its typical young male denizens and any given pistol on the same ten yards square parcel of land, and give it enough time, say, a few hours, you’re almost 100% guaranteed that someone gets murdered.

      • Joseph

        Even aside from that, ANY collection of mostly white folks means requisite equal free air-time for the “black community spokesmen”. They are like other naturally occurring opportunistic pathogens.

        • I figured something else. Of course the media hate the NRA today even more than they did two days ago, after WLP’s presser yesterday. WLP, in floating the trial balloons of violent movies and video games and music and TV shows, basically pw3ned the media itself, because the same megacorporations that own the mainstream news media also make the violent movies and music and TV shows and to a lesser extent the video games. Too, WLP took swipes at the media itself and their celebritization of these nutbars, and I agree with WLP. Unfortunately, WLP then went on to name some of the nutbars by name, so he undid his own good point.

          If firearms mfg. corporations had interlocking relationships with media conglomerates, and/or if there were far many more gun ads on TV, the media would love the NRA. The media hate tobacco because there are no consequences in doing so — Cigarette advertising has been FCC banned since 1970 or so. All about the money.

          • Dio Genes

            The only reason to go for the guns like this is because they have something in store for us when we don’t have guns. Now all we have to do is figure out who “they” are.

    • JohnEngelman

      “Your children need your presence more than your presents. ”

      “There is nothing more painful to me at this stage in my life than to walk down the street and hear footsteps… then turn around and see somebody white and feel relieved.”

      “It is time for us to turn to each other, not on each other”

      “Today’s students can put dope in their veins or hope in their brains. If they can conceive it and believe it, they can achieve it. They must know it is not their aptitude but their attitude that will determine their altitude.”

      “When the doors of opportunity swing open, we must make sure that we are not too drunk or too indifferent to walk through.”

      – Jesse Jackson

      • Bill

        “Actions speak louder than words.”
        – me

      • OlderWoman

        Jesse Jackson irks me. I don’t believe he does an honest days work.

      • Joseph

        Poet Laureate of the hood.

    • Tucker

      You are right, Nobody. I used to wonder about, and constantly grapple with, the superficially confusing contradiction in how our enemy owned and controlled mainstream media, on one hand, would be falling all over themselves to kiss the hind parts of blacks and other minorities – but, at the same time they were engaging in this nauseating pandering to violent, dangerous and predatory non-whites, every night on the news – I’d also be seeing an endless parade of crime reports that featured black and mestizo criminals, or in the local newspapers, I’d be seeing an equivalent flood of news reports that detailed black and mestizo crime in my local community.

      For a longer period of time than I am now embarrassed to admit, I used to see these contradictions and ask myself: “Since the enemy owned and controlled media hates Whites and apparently are obsessed with projecting false, air-brushed, and clearly fantasized, totally unrealistic depictions of non-whites – why are they also allowing a little bit of the harsh realities of criminal racial behavior slip out into the mainstream?”

      Finally, it hit me. The reason these virulently anti-White media owners do this – is because they, just like the black leaders who they are allied with – want to constantly remind Whites in their audiences that they need to be terrified of black and mestizo crime and to understand that if they refuse to concede to every parasitic, extortionist demand of blacks, mestizos, and other non-whites – then the penalty will be massive black (minority) violence directed at Whites.

      It’s an intimidation game, folks. The fact that Whites are setting new records every single day, purchasing firearms and ammunition – as well as practicing ‘White Intelligent Relocation’ (the left calls this white flight) – really does appear to grate on these totalitarian minded lelfists last nerve, because it is seen by them as an attempt by White European people to protect and insulate themselves from the constant and carefully nourished threat of minority on White violence and criminality.

      Remember, and pass the word – these screams we are hearing now from the gun grabbing left about taking away our firearms – are exactly what I have predicted the left would try to do, if they ever reached a position of power that they felt was absolute and unbreakable. They want to disarm, not minorities, but law abiding White people.

      They want us to be defenseless against minority crime. Oh, and the other defense mechanism – of fleeing these minority infested hell holes, in order to get away from their crime and parasitism – is also on the left’s list of things to thwart and make impossible. This is where those third world refugee resettlement programs come into the picture. I read that ObongoMugabe is importing something like 50,000 Africans from Africa every year – and these dangerous, primitive, IQ of 60 blacks will be deposited in any geographic area of the USA that our enemy rulers determine is too white for their liking.

  • Old Right

    Can we keep the guns and confiscate the blacks?

  • Token Finn

    The european-american lefty tactic of destroying your opponent is just that;
    Repeat the (in itself) factual statements of your opponent in a disgusted, snobby, uptight, snotty manner in order to shame him or her into submission. If a ‘far-right winger’ said that milk comes from a cow’s udders, Michael Moore would shriek “Did you catch that? This evil neo-nacho just said that cows produce milk! What a degenerate!”
    The fear babble sort of ties into it and I’m not sure if it deserves a category of its own. But talking about the fear is how the multicult people present themselves as heroic macho men, even if they are pampered hipsters who would throw their shoulder out throwing a punch. The ulterior logic of this argument is to say “Look at me; I’m so strong and powerful that I don’t even have to deny non-white harm occurring around me because I’m above complaining, unlike those right-wing wimps who’ll complain about their wallet and their daughters’ thighs being torn open”.
    It’s like a bunch of drunken juveniles daring each other to have bottles broken over their heads and straddle a pointy, metallic, rusty fence to win points from their buddies. The reason why the fratboys are far more respectable is that they do their own stunts with their own bodies while liberals are filling their mouths with bonbons and using less wealthy whites as their unwilling stuntmen. The dead working class whites go to heaven and the liberal takes the public credit and the false angel wings on this earth.

    • Joseph

      “Sophisticates” like Moore don’t have to soil themselves with concerns of self-defense. Only the barbarous would rely on themselves. The lavish class pay someone else to defend them so that they may keep above the rabble which are foolish enough to spend their money keeping people like Moore in a position from which he can make these enlightened judgments.

    • pcmustgo

      Yes, Yes, yes, it’s “I double-dare you to live with me in the ghetto”. Kind of , what are you , a “pus…y” , you’re afraid to drive through/live in a dangerous neighborhood?

      “I’m so big and strong and tough and loved by Blacks because I’m a special white person I was able to go live in Harlem/Bed-Stuy/xyz Ghetto (gentrifying it the whole time) while only getting mugged once and burglarized twice. But I didn’t mind. Because I have to prove that I’m not racist and go live with other trendy whites by taking over/raising rents in poor black people’s neighborhoods (usually only one block from the subway station to minimize the potential for violence). Also, anyone who doesn’t want to live a in a ghetto (scratch that, ghetto is a word off -limits to whites now) IS LIVING IN FEAR… THAT’S RIGHT, “LIVING IN FEAR”. IF YOU DON’T WANT TO LIVE IN A GHETTO, YOU’RE “LIVING YOUR LIFE IN FEAR”.

      Why even discuss crime stats? That’s “Living in Fear”, according to this new-agers. Maybe you can even use The Secret and think positive thoughts and avoid crime altogether.

      The liberals I know are always saying this. “So and so’s “Afraid of Black People”. “She’s that little Japanese girl who’s afraid of Black People”.

      I find the whole notion of it to be super manipulative and dismissive of other’s emotions and teenage like. Sick.

      • pcmustgo

        They’re also little sh—ts in the obvious fact that just because whites are afraid of SOME Black people, dangerous, violent, menacing ghetto thugs who often hate white people to boot does not mean we’re afraid of every black person we see. Liberals, of course, like to play mind games and twist words, manipulate, so they do… cheap shots.

        They also don’t get that avoiding ghettos and/or blacks isn’t just about avoiding black crime (crime is indeed, pretty rare,,, at least murders are). It’s about avoiding blaring music played by aggressive “neighbors”, it’s about avoiding racial hostility, angry glares, “attitude” and people who more often than not view you as a racial enemy.

        It’s not about fear or hating blacks per se, just a desire to avoid negativity in life. How is that, new-agers?

        Why should we immerse ourselves in a pit of negatvity? Oh, that’s right, to shed our white skin privlege and do what liberals and racist blacks want more than anything… “make white people uncomfortable”.

        • pcmustgo

          I’ve noticed here in NYC, Western European immigrants, French, Germans, etc are particularly prone to this political correctness and “not living in Fear” by living in black ghettos , unlike those racist white americans who irrationally fear/dislike Blacks, because unlike white american liberals, who just pay lip service to this, they are unable to “read between the lines” of what’s going on around them and are just naturally socialist anyways.

          • liberalsuck

            Maybe being ‘enriched with diversity’ might wake up those ignorant Western European immigrants, that is, if they live through the experience.

          • Luis

            I think Western European’s attitudes about Bantus are shaped by Gunnar Myrdahl’s book, and “Good Times” reruns.

        • Pelayo

          Not all snakes are poisonous but unless you’re a herpetologist you avoid ALL snakes.

      • liberalsuck

        Don’t you love it how liberals accuse us of being fearmongers, yet they use situations like the Connecticut shooting to push for more gun control all because of their fears of weapons. They are such hypocrites. I really hope the blacks, mexicans and muslims they use against us backfires on them in a real bad way. I hope the conservative whites don’t take in people like him and let them suffer the consequences for their agendas they’ve pushed onto us.

  • Puggg

    Michael Moore ignores the mental health issue, probably out of projection.

  • Luca

    Michael Moore is one of the many Libbies who when they speak, I often wonder, why does anyone give them an audience or the time of day? And as per most Libbies he is a fantastic hypocrite of monumental proportions.

    So Michael, if you are truly so fearless, what say you move out of your gated mansion, drop your security and body guards and move to East St. Louis where you can revel in the wonders of diversity. I’m waiting.

    • The__Bobster

      Why did the DNC give him an honorary front row seat at their convention?

      • OlderWoman

        Probably because he was too fat to sit anywhere else.

    • StillModerated

      He could move back to Flint.

      • liberalsux

        Just like his other liberal buddy Tim Wise, who lives in a 96% white neighborhood. Funny, both men have lots of media airtime and have made lots of money pointing their finger at “America” (read: white americans) and browbeating us, yet they live around the same people who they claim are racist, ignorant, evil, dangerous, greedy, etc. Amazing. You have to be even worse than mentally retarded to be a liberal, especially if you are past college age.

  • Take notice of how Moore always talks so negatively about how Fear is used to sell us things that are either nothing but lies or something that we wouldn’t want if we knew the truth.

    But how does Moore go about doing all of this? Well, he uses Fear, of course. Fear of guns… Fear of “racists”… Fear of rich people… Fear of scientific facts being used instead of “feelings”

    • pcmustgo

      Fear of being CALLED RACIST…

    • The__Bobster

      His favorite groups, like the $PLC and the ACLU, make their living on stirring up false fear.

  • BannerRWB

    This appears to be a question that came after the answer:
    “Now, not every house has a gun but we’ve got over a quarter-billion guns in people’s homes. And they’re mostly in the suburbs and rural areas where there is virtually no crime and no murder. So why is that?”

    • pcmustgo

      Whites are also the majority, so it should be obvious that the majority of gun-owners are whites and most whites due tend to live in suburbs, so yes, majority of gun owners are suburbanites.

      More playing around with statistics. It’s like saying “most people on welfare are white” when the real point is that blacks, though a tiny majority, are over-represented, disporpotionately much more likely to be on welfare.

      More semantic mind games.

      Most Liberals and Blacks, being dumb, don’t know the racial breakdowns, the statistics of demographics. They don’t even know what the racial breakdown of this country is.

  • Francis Galton

    Michael, please allow this ignorant, knuckle-dragging right-winger to commit the hate crime of Illustrating the Truth with Statistics.

    First, let’s start with the fact that in my state, Virginia, blacks are about 20% of the population and black males about 10% of the population.

    Now, let’s look at some crime statistics for VA for last year, 2011.

    1) Blacks committed at least 60.8% of the homicides in the state (race was unknown in 30 cases).

    2) Black males younger than 30 committed 37.7% of the homicides (again, possibly more).

    3) Blacks committed no less than 80.2% of the robberies in the state (race was unknown in 148 cases).

    4) Black males younger than 36 committed at least 72.1% of the robberies.

    5) Blacks committed 41.2% of the rapes (64 cases had an unknown race).

    6) Black males in particular committed 40.9% of the rapes.

    Although there is plenty more data to go around, you can see by now that blacks in my state (and nearly everywhere else) commit violent crimes at rates vastly disproportionate to their population numbers. Young black males are especially heinous and sociopathic.

    So yes, Michael, you’re absolutely correct that White gun owners are often driven by racial fear, and they have every bloody reason to be. From the crime stats, you can readily see that young black males in particular are about as civilized as Pygmies or Bushmen. They are an alien race within our midst, and only the insane would have no fear of them.

    • pcmustgo

      98% OF ALL GUN CRIMES IN NYC COMMITTED BY BLACKS AND LATINOS, 60% BY BLACKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Oh, and the “Latinos” here (Puerto Ricans mostly) are part black,afro-hispanic.

      • tickyul

        dhats raycisss!!!

        • The Verdict of History


          You bet it is!

          At this point, you may be getting a sense that REALITY is racist…

          Along with History, Math, Physics, Engineering, Biology, Chemistry and everything else worth studying….

          Nature, Civilization and Law are frankly hostile to Blacks

          • tickyul

            Lol, that too!

    • Critic_of_Leviathan

      Wow, great post. How dare you use evidence like that? Don’t you know how raciss that be?

      This is another great example of how fearing or disliking blacks is indicative of having a faculty of inductive reasoning that is in perfect working order.

    • JDInSanDiego

      Also keep in mind that these stats only count the ones who are caught and only count the crimes that are reported. Many of these guys commit multiple crimes before they are caught.

    • libsux

      What I can’t believe is how many people give that fat liberal sack of manure any money or airtime.

    • HadEnough

      It would be more sensible to ban moolies than guns.

    • moore is dumber than hell

      ditto that for all other 50 states

      stats back it all up

      who is “we” ?

      moore loves to wrap everything up and speak for everyone even the dead

      whites do not deny that slavery was not only a mistake but the mother of all mistakes ever made.

      “we” had nothing to do with it and “we” wish it had never happened and “we” wish we could invent a time machine to change the past and eliminate slavery.

      would blacks be in favor of that? yea rite

  • PesachPatriot

    Mr. Moore is right to an extent…people who live in vibrant diverse urban areas have concealed carry permits because of a certain demographic. No one buys guns because they fear being assaulted or murdered by jewish violinists or chinese pianists. I own my guns because Florida is basically Africa with a large mouse based them park in the middle. I’m a lot more concerned with deterring a potential home invasion by aspiring rappers than chi-com soldiers showing up in the middle of the night to collect the national debt. I don’t think Mr. Moore would feel very comfortable on an MLK after dark without one of those evil racist guns. I think its funny how all the rich anti-2nd amendment people like Mr. Moore and Mayor Bloomberg all have well paid armed security to protect them. I guess us lesser mortals should just offer up our wallets and daughters to our new bantu overlords. I bet he would be singing a very different tune if he had to live in Detroit or Atlanta for six months

    • Luis

      Paisan, speaking for myself, I would feel more comfortable around a squadron of North Korean soldiers on a bus, than a couple of shrill, screaming, Bantu women.

      • Pelayo

        Absolutely!! The North Korean soldiers would be disciplined.

        • Johnny Clay

          Would have loved to see how a platoon of Waffen SS would handle a bunch of boisterous homies on a bus or a subway train. I had three uncles who fought the Nazis, so I’m not advocating for them.

      • Johnny Clay

        Sad, but true.

    • Pelayo

      Can we be sure that Itzhak Perlman ins’t carrying a Bushmaster in the violin case and imagine what Yoyo Ma could hide in that cello case.

      Blacks are the most dangerous entities in this world and I don’t want to hear about the “decent Blacks”. I know that they exist but it isn’t worth risking your life to find them. Wichita, Knoxville, Amy Willard, Amy Biehl and thousands of other innocent White men and women who have fallen prey to these Wilde Chaim will never be out of my thoughts.
      Happy Channukah.

      • OlderWoman

        Sorry, but I have no sorry for Amy Biehl. For her to venture into that country alone, was a terrible decision.

        • Tucker

          I agree 100 percent. I feel no sympathy for do-gooder white liberal idiots who become victims of the very same savages that they are foolishly risking their lives to help.

          I remember a white female friend I had from our years in the military. She was the wife of a White Southern male buddy of mine who was from Kentucky. This couple wound up getting divorced, but I kept in touch with this woman for a number of years and as time passed, I began to notice that she had been drinking the liberal, egalitarian kool-aid and once she began to spout that sort of self-destructive, racially suicidal poison – I decided to end the friendship. She had turned into a Chris-Matthews sort of self-hating White liberal, and these are the kinds of Whites who none of us at Amren should ever risk our lives trying to rescue, should we someday see them being swarmed over by non-white predators.

          Let them be devoured by their pets.

          • Joseph

            I’ve seen it too with people gone off to college. They had weak minds or convictions at least, to begin with.

        • Pelayo

          She didn’t deserve to die. Have a heart! She was the victim of the Progressive agenda that made her parents that way and then passed it on to her. I can’t imagine that someone could not be touched by reading the details of her brutal murder while the savages cheered and the guffaws of the savages in the courtroom as the horrifying details of her last moments were related.
          I can imagine her thoughts “Why are you doing this to me? I came here to help”. They’re heartless soulless beasts who destroy everything beautiful including their own continent and its wildlife. Channon and Christian died the same way with the sexual torture component thrown in. As well as were the five young people in Wichita. Victims all! Victims of our “Progressive society” and of the monsters it cultivated.

          • OlderWoman

            The situation with Channon and Christian is different. Africa is a violent nation and moreso since the end of apartheid. The black murderers in Knoxville, tortured them for several days. If whites go into black communities in America, the percentage of them coming out alive is low. Channon and Christian weren’t IN their community when they were kidnapped.

            I still say Amy Biehl placed herself in danger. Her parents are guilty for not intervening. I still feel more passion about Channon’s and Christians deaths than I do for Amy Biehl.

          • pcmustgo

            Biehl’s family supported the release of the killers,[4] and her father shook the murderers’ hands, stating:

            The most
            important vehicle of reconciliation is open and honest dialogue…we are
            here to reconcile a human life which was taken without an opportunity
            for dialogue. When we are finished with this process we must move
            forward with linked arms.[5]


            In 1994, Biehl’s parents, Linda and Peter, founded the Amy Biehl Foundation Trust to develop and empower youth in the townships, in order to discourage further violence.[6] Two of the men who had been conviced of her murder worked for the foundation as part of its programs.[7] In 1999, Biehl’s parents were honored with the Aline and Norman Felton Humanitarian Award.[8]

            In his speech accepting the Congressional Gold Medal on 23 September 1998, Nelson Mandela said:

        • schmenz

          I’m not terribly keen on do-gooders, either, but I think when one learns more of the details of the murder of Miss Corrie one begins to see things differently.

  • Michael_C_Scott

    Does anyone on earth actually give a rip anymore about what Michael Moore pretends to “think”?

    • guest

      I for one am extremely uninterested in what these liberal celebrities think on these kinds of issues. They’re just out to make a name for themselves. Kind of like Rosie O’Donnell, who claims to be anti-gun, yet she has no problem with having an armed bodyguard.

  • guest

    I never liked Michael Moore. He’s just another leftist celebrity always telling people how they should live their lives, thinking that his opinions are the only ones that matter. Not all of us can live in the safe gated communities of Hollywood that he lives in. There is more criminal activity in the world of “normal people”, and many people here buy guns to protect themselves and their loved ones. They don’t care if it makes them look like they have “racial fears”, their only concern is the safety and well-being of themselves and their families.

    • OlderWoman

      I don’t like him because he’s morbidly obese. “He ‘messes’ up the scenery.”

      • liberalsuck

        I hope he has a coronary and has a slow painful death. No, I don’t care if that’s mean to say either. I have a lot of hatred and disdain for liberals like Moore, Tim Wise, Angelie Jolie, etc. You name it. They’re all the same. All bashing (rich) white people and our traditions, yet wanting to be a part of our society that we created.

        • OlderWoman

          He probably has an addiction to food…that’s a mental illness.

  • Read the article on the two youf’s who set a fellow teenager on fire and then ask yourself if it doesn’t make sense that people want guns.

  • Don’t forget that Michael Moore is protected by an armed bodyguard: http://hotair.com/greenroom/archives/2012/12/18/michael-moores-body-guard-arrested-on-gun-charges/

    Most, if not all of the gun-grabbers either carry or have armed bodyguards….yet, they insist that the average American be at the mercy of armed & dangerous criminals, gangs and minorities who TARGET Whites.

    • Michael_C_Scott

      I wouldn’t be too inclined to trust a firearm that has a plastic receiver. I suspect the technology would be quite useful for making copies of hard-to-find ammunition magazines, however.

  • MekongDelta69

    Why do lunatics ALWAYS have to shoot innocent little kids and attack white people, when there are so many idiot leftist targets out there?

    Disclaimer for AmRen Trolls: The above does NOT mean I advocate, yadda, yadda, yadda….

    • The__Bobster

      Because the lunatics consider themselves to be victims and thus identify with the idiot leftists.

    • Joseph

      Some/most of the *teachers* probably WERE idiot leftists- ultimate victims of their own philosophical bent. We just didn’t get to hear them spew the usual educrat speak so we don’t know. The ones that we hear on the news certainly are. -NOT that this was deserved but, ideas have consequences and the public schools are the major purveyors of foolish ideas.

      And for the PC “reverence police” here- my daughter IS a school teacher as I was in a previous life, so don’t go there.

    • Michael_C_Scott

      The lunatics do these things precisely because they’re insane. Not also how they so often end by committing suicide, when if life is such a burden to them, they could commit suicide first thing and leave everybody else and their families out of it. Again, it’s because they’re insane.

      AR-15 rifles of the type used in the recent shooting, as well as the one in Denver first appeared in 1963, and one could purchase them with no waiting period and no background check in any state in the nation at the time. No mass shootings in those days, either.
      What has changed is that personal responsibility is no longer “hip” or “trendy”, and mass shootings precisely like this one are the inevitable consequence of an “anything goes” society in which liberal enablers have spent the last 45 years making excuses for irresponsible adults and malicious teenagers. The NRA is currently being demonized for this horrible incident, as they are for every similar case, but I must wonder whether the same liberal enablers of society-wide irresponsibility who propagandize these tragedies mean the National Rifle Association that has for the last 20-plus years been ardently stumping for careful firearms handling and safe firearms storage, or do they mean some different NRA that nobody else knows about?

      • Pelayo

        Back in the mob days there were no mass shootings and they had Thompson Submachine guns firing .45 ACP from drum magazines holding 50 rounds. The St. Valentine’s Day massacre was seven dead. They were other gangsters. No loss. The only innocent victim was a mechanic.

      • anonymous

        Hell, talk to someone over 65 and they will tell you they remember going to high school before the 1970s when they could keep a shotgun in their locker and no problems. Whites were going around doing mass shootings and, unless I’m wrong on this, but even black neighborhoods didn’t have all the violence, crime or pathologies back then as they do today. Am I wrong on that?

  • pcmustgo

    Yeah, I hated this comment. He made this awhile ago, during the Aurora Batman Movie murder.

    I hate, hate, hate having to deal with this stereotype of being “the (irrationally) frightened, cowardly, shaking with fear, clueless, dumb, inexperienced, unsophisticated, uneducated , clinging to my guns even though I don’t own a gun, white racist”. I’m sick of it.

    I’m not frightened at all. I’M MAD AS HELL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    I also don’t get white liberals thinking. They are the frightened ones, not us. We let blacks have it , fight back, against all odds and against the entire politically correct society thumbing their noses at us. We’re FIGHTERS…


    No, how about Honest and Brave, and full of Integrity and understanding and experience and intellect, awareness on the issues, etc.

    • pcmustgo

      Another thing I hate about these judgmental, hypocritical, “not living in Fear” White Liberals is they don’t seem to understand many of us race realists/right wingers have had TONS OF EXPERIENCE WITH BLACKS, on many levels. They always assume we’ve “never met a black person before” and just irrationally dislike blacks. They can’t think outside their own limited realm of experience to understand others may have lived and experienced life differently. They can’t imagine a white person having more experience with blacks/latinos/asians than they do- and walking away the more racist because of it.

      • pcmustgo

        Check out Brooklynian.com (run by typical left wing hipsters, so be careful what you post or they’ll block you). It often lists crimes committed in these “up and coming” gentrifying ghettos, robberies, violent muggings where blood is spilled, stray bullets, reported by neurotic , neighborhoody, trendy white liberal types etc.

        The most annoying conversations is where one poster will inquire about whether xyz neighborhood or block is “safe”. They’ll then get slammed as racists for even using that racist code word “safe”, or by angry, self-righteous whites who have lived there longer and consider themselves “tougher” than the new poster and say “if you even have to ask that question, you shouldn’t be living here”. They’ll also get slammed by the Hard Left types who deny all crime statistics are even capable of being valid (IN TOTAL DENIAL OF REALITY TYPES, IMPOSSIBLE TO RATIONALIZE WITH), they were made up by the racist NYPD, shoot down other’s bad/racist experiences as “purely anecdotal” and therefore invalid judgments, existential almost denial of the idea that any neighborhood can be any safer than any other neighborhood, “you can get shot/mugged anywhere” type thinking (technically true, but statistically more improbably in safe, non-black areas), employ a logic and a lingo that only an out of touch, rich white person/ freshman sociology major at some wackadoo university in the stix could believe or speak in “Race is a social construct, in this example you mentioned , his construct is more targetted than __________”. Some are Hard Leftists who specifically move to these neighborhoods to indulge their Hard Left Credentials/Diversity-seeking fantasies.

        Others do just respond honestly and straight-forwardly, but yeah, pretty awful stuff. A great way to get into an endless argument with an impossible white liberal whose mind is like that of a lawyer defending a serial killer- all about the game, the fight, the debate, cares not a whim about blacks or about others or fairness, or honesty, just about winning, winning, winning,.

        The Hard Left attracts a lot of Sadists I’ve noticed.

      • George White

        There have actually been studies that showed that proximity is the cause for racial realism. Just like you said. It’s just the opposite of what the libs claim. This is my consistent problem with canadians! I HATE Canadians. They’re the worst sort of liberal retards, prone to long lectures about “racism” when they’ve had ZERO exposure to blacks and browns.

        • George

          George, with the greatest of respect to you, I’m Canadian.

          Scroll through, check out my posts.

          I’m a racial realist, but I hate being stereotyped. We unfortunately have more than enough blacks & browns here, and more are arriving every day. Not everyone is happy about it.

          In passing, Canadian firearm ownership is fairly high. 20% of Canadian households have at least one firearm.

          Lastly, I’d encourage you to check out the comment threads on news items on yahoo.ca. You’ll find that there are rather an awful lot of Canadians who aren’t prone to giving long lectures about ‘racism’.

          Merry Christmas to you!

          • guest

            I know how you feel. I’m from Massachusetts and California. I am stereotyped quite often by Amreners, especially Southerners. We are not all the same person. I am the opposite of liberal. I won’t go on about how much I hate Barney Frank, Nancy Pelosi, Uncle Teddy, etc. They fill me with so much rage that my post would sound like a Mel Gibson rant. I will just avoid that topic; you get the idea. I am extremely race realist, as are most of my family and friends that I grew up with. We had to grow up with forced integration and extreme interracial crime. I believe that white liberals are the lowest form of life that exists…oh, there I go again. Yes, I am from these liberal dominated states, but I may as well be David Duke.

  • Biff_Maliboo

    Who the heck even gets “Current TV?”

    I think it’s more of an elaborate tax write-off than anything else.

    • The__Bobster

      Who wants to pay for propaganda?


      Current TV, or Current, is a progressive[1] media company led by former U.S. Vice President Al Gore and businessman Joel Hyatt. Comcast owns a ten percent stake of Current’s parent company, Current TV, LLC.[2]

      • StillModerated

        Joel Hyatt is not a “businessman” per se. He is the son of the late Ohio senator Howard Metzenbaum, but changed his name (as tribesmen are wont to do) when it became legal for lawyers to advertise on TV. Hyatt/Metzenbaum is in fact a greasy barrister.

  • pcmustgo

    Moore also loves to play up the role of the stereotypically fat, poorly dressed, working class white guy, the “blue collar joe”… apparently , like most Leftists, he over-exaggerated his “poor upbringing” and grew up upper middle class in a town outside of Flint.

    • Joseph

      Probably the son of a “Kenyan goatherder” also. That’s real popular these days.

  • StillModerated

    Michael Moore is the worst sort of fool: he’s the type that believes his own lies.

    Having grown up in Davison, just outside Flint Michigan — a once-great Middle American town — he fails to see what the bantu underclass did to destroy his hometown, and also why his parents joined the white flight. So, what does he care? He now lives in LA, where he also fails to see what the underclass has destroyed.

    • OlderWoman

      People in entertainment have guns. They usually have rabid fans and sometimes threats against their lives.

  • I think this women has a better grip on reality than Mikey does:


  • fenway23

    Correct me if I’m wrong, but I remember reading somewhere (maybe it was here) that Michael Moore lives in the whitest metropilitan area in the country…

  • falsedawn

    we should humanely repatriate all blacks back to africa, It wouldn’t be a bad iead to send the hispanics there as well.
    To do all this humane work, we should understand fully that it will take a lot of bodily control. We must first find a good shooting position, control our breathing, bring our sights to six o’clock bull, take up trigger slack of our weapon, let the round go at exactly the right moment.

  • SoCal LoCal

    Fear of the natives does not explain why my ancestors intermarried with their Cherokee neighbors. Fear of blacks, on the other hand, is perfectly rationale–and it always has been.

    Gun control advocates should heed their fellow leftist, Chairman Mao. He said, “power flows from the barrel of a gun.” He understood power to a degree today’s coddled liberal slobs do not.

    • Bon, From the Land of Babble

      The Founders gave us the 2nd Amendment to protect us, the people, against an out-of-
      control federal government.

      When a government has a monopoly on violence over the people, in time it will use violence against anyone deemed to be an “enemy of the state.”

      This is what Mao, Stalin, Pol Pot, Hitler and other bloodthirsty tyrants knew.

      As Thomas Jefferson (supposedly) said:

      When people fear government there is tyranny; when government fears people there is liberty

      No truer words were ever spoken.


      • Pelayo

        Why aren’t all those violent bastards that we’re warehousing in prisons on our dime ( would that it were only a dime) still alive. Aren’t they the REAL enemies of the state?

  • fsagas

    Didn’t Moore say that he was glade white people are because a minority/not to be in power much longer. Didn’t always write a book “stupid white men.”

    He then wonders why people cannot get along?

  • Anon

    The irony is those guns primarily protect the same people Moore says we are all supposedly frightened of.

    Moore is part of a group of people who want very much to create a police state that lords it over a large slave plantation of sheeple…..with Moore and his cohorts firmly established as our masters. Blacks and other non-whites are just a tool to sow the very fear he is talking about but not for the reasons he says. Blacks commit gun violence so the obvious solution is to ban guns, is very much the way this works. Once the guns are gone, Moore and friends plan to move in and take over.

    And what is the very first thing they will do? Get rid of anyone who is a problem and/or doesn’t make a particularly useful slave. Basically send every single non-white to the “showers”. The ONLY ones who would have a mind to prevent this are morally righteous and courageous WHITE people. But without guns, preventing it is iffy, at best.

    That is where Michael Moore is coming from. You want racist? It doesn’t get much more racist that that.

    • Luis

      In other words, throw the kulaks into the gulags.

  • Arming and protecting yourself against a known enemy is not fear, it’s survival.

    • Bon, From the Land of Babble


      Blacks are an estimated 39 times more likely to commit a violent crime against a White than vice versa.


      If Moore wants to call it “racism,” that’s fine by me. I’d rather be called a “racissst” than dead!!


      • OlderWoman

        The Bible says to be “wise as serpents and harmless as doves.” Guns are wise investments these days after blacks have threatened a race war.

  • In his film Bowling for Columbine, Mr. Moore twisted the shooting of a 6 year old white girl Kayla Rolland by a 6 year old black boy Dedrick Owens into his own take on welfare reform.

    Here’s the tribute page for Kayla Rolland:


    Here is an example of Moore’s twisting of facts:


  • Another example of Moore playing fast and loose with facts and history:

    A Brief History of The United States of America


  • “A lie can travel halfway around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes.” Mark Twain.

    Moore uses an effective tactic to spread his lies; Hit and run.

    “Bowling for columbine” and all his other films are loaded with twisted inaccuracies which are then ‘set in stone’ so to speak. These twisted facts will be perpetuated for years to come because few people are going to stop to critically think through or research each and every false fact and biased opinion.

    • Bon, From the Land of Babble

      Michael Moore is a rich, elitist hypocrite who has (or had) a body guard who carries a gun.

      Filmmaker Michael Moore’s bodyguard was arrested for carrying an unlicensed weapon in New York’s JFK airport Wednesday night.


      Moore tells activists to “battle against the wealthy 1%” while lolling about in a $2 million dollar “holiday home” in one of the country’s most elite communities: the Eastern shore of Lake Torch, MI while telling us HE “isn’t one of the wealthy.”

      Where’s my harpoon…


      • Pelayo

        Thank God for Michelle Malkin and Hot Air & Twitchy.

  • WmarkW

    Steve Sailer points out today that white blue-staters want to restrict guns for same reason — their use by NAM’s threatens their family’s safety.


    So here we have the ultimate loss to political correctness; neither side of the gun control debate can accurately discuss their position, which is what to do about dangerous blacks?

    • Joseph

      They have already decided that “what to do about dangerous blacks” is to discover how whites caused this problem, then impose a solution on whites -like scattered-site housing, bussing, gun control, or confiscatory taxation.

      Checkmate; white king loses.

  • Bon, From the Land of Babble

    Figures Michael Moore would “weigh in” at some point. How great it to be a lefty, Mr. Moore! The media slaver over you and never demand proof of anything you say no matter how wrong, ignorant or outrageous it is.

    You avoid reality and facts just like you do Slim-Fast.

    Fat, dumb and stupid is no way to go through life, son.


    • liberalsuck

      Doesn’t this speak of the liberals’ character (or lack thereof) that they can’t just say “This is tragic” without pushing their anti-gun agenda or how “whites are privileged and racial profiling blacks/mexicans/muslims is wrong”? They can’t tell you about a place they vacationed or lived without going on some rant about how they don’t like the fact a Republican is from there. Here, it’s different. I know this is a site dedicated to racial, social and political issues. However, I’m talking about liberals in general who can’t stick with a topic or situation on hand without bringing up their politics or social views.

  • George

    I know Moore is unfamiliar with concepts such as ‘truth’, or ‘rigorous academic research’, but his comment ‘Now, not every house has a gun but we’ve got over a quarter-billion guns
    in people’s homes. And they’re mostly in the suburbs and rural areas
    where there is virtually no crime and no murder. So why is that?’ indicates two things:

    — Moore does not understand the concept of cause & effect, viz. criminals are less likely to attack a household where the residents are likely to be armed.

    — Moore fails to see the point he himself has made in this quotation: Areas inhabited by armed whites have less crime. That’s one very good way of solving our race problem.

    • Joseph

      Those places are “strongholds of white privilege” (working families of normal IQ) inhabited by “armed racists in fortified compounds” (they haven’t broken out the windows and sold the plumbing).

  • C_C_Conrad

    “We were frightened of the native people.” Read Wilderness Empire by Allen W. Eckert; The Oregon Trail, and The Conspiracy of Pontiac by Francis Parker

    “…we were frightened of the slaves we brought over, as we should have been.” Read The French Revolution In San Domingo by T. Lothrop Stoddard.

    “Gun ownership, Moore said, ‘cuts down to the heart of our race problem that we still haven’t resolved.’” I agree but it will be resolved one day.
    Jacks War

  • fakeemail

    Michael Moore is RIGHT for once! Huzzah!

    He’s damn right that most white people buy guns for home protection because they see the local “youths” passing by at night or the Mexicans digging in their garbage cans for recyclables/casing their house. Damn right!

  • Speaking of guns and race, I read somewhere that Federal gun prosecutions are down 40% in Obama’s first term compared to Bush’s second term. Of course, we all know that the left doesn’t like prosecuting “gun crimes” (for the lack of a better phrase) anyway, because too many blacks commit them.

    Now, could there be some Machiavellian reason why “gun crime” prosecutions are down? Maybe. I know that big city cops like holding a felon in possession rap over the heads of certain ex con blacks caught with guns like the sword of Damocles so they can turn them around as stool pidgeons, to use them as sources. So when there’s a murder, they can pull their “sources'” strings and triangulate to a doer. If this happens, though, the cops aren’t referring the Federal felon in possession rap to the U.S. Attorney’s Office, so they don’t know at all, much less make a decision to prosecute or not.

    • Scott

      Federal gun prosecutions are the most effective thing possible to cut down on violence in our society. When DeAndre is caught carrying a gun in proximity to a school, that’s a federal crime and he can be locked up for years for that. Within the Federal system, time is real time. There is no parole and they must serve 85% of their sentence.

      Meanwhile, in my city, when gang members are picked up with guns and drugs, they are back on the street almost right away.

      Federal prosecution of gun charges and whatever else they can come up with.

      But do they want to use that? No. It will result in way too many DeAndres and Trevons in Club Fed. They would prefer to go after AR-15s (favorite gun of white conservatives) and mental health issues (your black social worker will diagnose you, and guess what the diagnosis is).

      Once you start seeing with your eyes you see many things.

      • And because the Feds (usually) will prosecute, and Federal time is real time, that’s why local cop can use the gun crime as bargaining bait to get the gun criminal to turn supergrass.

        I wish Wayne La Pierre would have brought this up in his presser yesterday. Like I said, the NRA endorsed and helped design these programs.

        I contend that vigorous enforcement or the threat of enforcement of Federal gun laws against ghetto blacks is even more responsible than CCW for a noticeable drop in the black crime rate in the last handful number of years, because the average person who gets a CCW permit turns into a good coward and starts avoiding anything close to a troublesome situation, ergo they’re not in the middle of trouble (blacks) to deter crime that much.

        • Pelayo

          I do not believe there has been a noticeable drop in the crime rate. It sure hadn’t dropped in Chicago, Philadelphia, Camden, Baltimore, St. Petersburg, Cincinnati, Savannah, Charlotte etc. Unless that by “noticeable” you’re referring to “statistics”.

      • Pelayo

        “Meanwhile, in my city, when gang members are picked up with guns and drugs, they are back on the street almost right away.”

        Trust me. It’s that way in most cities because the police are overwhelmed with Black crime and the courts have been rendered helpless to control the disruption of the system.

  • C_C_Conrad

    The thrust of this article is about the anti-gun mania going around. These killings were a horrible thing, no doubt, and we all would like it if there were never another one. My concern is that this school attack was perpetrated by yet again a mentally disturbed young white person. We need to put better solutions in place in order to stop these things from happening, it is our responsibility to do this.

    Here’s a plan for us to foster in our own community. 1. If there is a person living in your house that is even slightly unstable keep all guns locked securely in a safe and keep the combination and keys hidden from them.
    2. If there is a person living in your house that is even slightly unstable seek medical help for them early, don’t wait for something to happen that you’ll be sorry for. 3. Make plans to guarantee that future generations of our race will be possessed of a sound mind and body by practicing eugenics. http://www.eugenics.net/index.html
    Jack’s War

    • liberalsuck

      Do you think it’s possible some of these shootings were planned by the government? Sorry, I know. I sound like Alex Jones sometimes.

      • C_C_Conrad

        I wouldn’t put ANYTHING past the government, especially knowing what I know about Pearl Harbor, but in this case I haven’t seen anything to indicate that the government had a hand in this. You can be sure however that they will use it to further their Leftist ‘Red Coat’ agenda. The Feds don’t have to do every bad thing, there are PLENTY of goofs out there that will do it for them.
        Jack’s War

  • Shawn_thefemale

    “And those in power have known how to manipulate us with fear.”

    That’s the first honest thing that fridge-raiding, face-stuffing, dumpster-diving moron has uttered. Those in power have manipulated the American public with the fear of losing our jobs, our freedom, even opportunity for education by not succumbing to worshiping blacks and elevating them to godly status.

    If Michael Moore’s brains were gunpowder he couldn’t blow himself up.

  • William Rooks

    Unh huh. And why did Americans own guns PRIOR to 1950 then? Why was it considered a manly thing and routine with no eyebrows raised? Why was it possible to not only own them, but to buy them without background checks, through the mail, with only an affirmation on the order that you were of age? No school shootings. Rarely armed robberies. Doors left unlocked. Jim Crow laws forbidding blacks to own anything but a shotgun. Segregation. Separate schools. Come the “civil rights era” and blacks unleashed and suddenly you have rampant crime running amok, with illegally procured or stolen guns, and citizens no longer merely enjoying a right enshrined in the 2nd Amendment, for hunting and sporting purposes, but necessary for home and personal protection. Now, Schools need metal detectors. Doors need to be locked during school hours. Cops need to be on school grounds. Only relatively recently has there been a recognized need to arm oneself for personal protection, and that is primarily due to blacks unleashed and out from under Jim Crow, the restricted covenants, and abolition of segregation. So in a way, yes, guns now are often legally procured for the purpose of self defense against blacks. But prior to 1960 that need was way down the list as to a reason to own and enjoy firearms. The reason things changed? Blacks among us. Liberal judges. Federal courts. But first and foremost, blacks among us and no longer constrained by sensible measures.

    • Pelayo

      You’ve got it all wrong. Never believe what you see. Blacks are scientists, surgeons, lawyers, judges, counselors, urologists, gynecologists, Generals, Norse Gods, police chiefs, good samaritans who rescue beautiful White women from being ravished, people who are shocked at the outrageous behavior of White people, wise men who set erratic, hyperactive White men on the right path. Trust me I see it on TV and movies. You need to watch more.

  • LHathaway

    In the 1980’s it was carjacking. which, it isn’t so bad getting your car stolen but authorities cracked down on it. Nowadays it’s home invasion robberies. The authorities are concerned once again; they’re afraid home owners might defend themselves.

    • sarah stein

      Usually police will arrive ten to twenty minutes after receiving a home invasion call. But if you tell the dispatcher to just send the meat wagon because you will have shot the invaders before the police arrive, the police will be there before you hang up the phone. Career criminals keep the police and judges in work. Which is why judges just release them if they’re caught. Judges’ kids gotta eat too.

  • sarah stein

    I’m frightened of “Beat Whitey Night”, “Polar Bear Hunting” and the “Knockout King Game”.

    • Pelayo

      Every White person is a possible target and should prepared to respond to any hostile act as if it were going to prove fatal to them. The Platinum Rule says ” Do unto others BEFORE they do unto you”.

  • Jeff

    The end of the world is here! When Michael Moore says something honest, it means the world is ending!!

    • liberalsuck

      He might be true (or half true), but liberals and anti-white people use these facts to browbeat whites. Not to uplift us or empower us.

  • Jeff

    it cuts down to the heart of our race problem that we still haven’t resolved. And I thought it would be interesting to take a look at that in the movie.”

    I hope he makes a movie about it. There are two ways it could go:

    He could go the Redtails path, and make a movie that portrays blacks in a way that no one will believe, Or he could let some reality infuse the movie. And no matter how he filters it and twists it, the reality will shine through. Blacks shoot other blacks, constantly, over disrespect, Air Jordans, or many other phantasms. There’s no way you could make a movie about unresolved racial problems and not let that come through somehow.

    I hope he makes this movie. He’s walking into a trap of his own invention if he does. The more you look at black dysfunction, the harder it is to blame it on white conservatives.

  • bigone4u

    A gun is an insurance policy, part of the cost of living in a world in which guns and other people stand ready to impose tyranny on one. A little fear and paranoia is a good thing.

  • falsedawn

    Whatever the reason an American wants to own a gun is irrelevant. As long as they’re a citizen in good standing, they’re allowed to own a weapon. Case closed.

  • tampabay

    Why does fatboy Moore still live in a 99% white area all his life as a spoiled brat?
    The real solution to guns is to outlaw firearms for all liberals only who commit 99% of all crimes anyway unless split the nation in half and start all over.

  • JohnEngelman

    “Blacks are seven times more likely than people of other races to commit murder, and eight times more likely to commit robbery.

    “When blacks commit crimes of violence, they are nearly three times more likely than non-blacks to use a gun, and more than twice as likely to use a knife.”

    – Jared Taylor, from “The Color of Crime”

    Whites who are not afraid of black crime suffer from what George Orwell called, “money sheltered ignorance.”

  • Exoplanet Finder

    “Now, not every house has a gun but we’ve got over a quarter-billion
    guns in people’s homes. And they’re mostly in the suburbs and rural
    areas where there is virtually no crime and no murder. So why is that”. Well, there’s a lot of unpacking to do here. I would argue the worldwide apartheid system, the system formerly known as the ‘nation-state’ system, with definable borders and a ‘we live here, you live there’ mentality was really the same as in former times when a nation armed itself against other nations. All these suburban and rural white gun owners, like myself, are in fact the leftovers of a nation, called America, which, if fought to the death, will produce such as death spasm that Pyrrhus of old would have thought his a clean victory. With each year that goes by, I am rather sure the odds get slightly worse, but then again the stock is immensely strong, and the germ-plasm extremely potent. Which award would you want for helping save your society (imagined in its ideal form?): http://antarcticaedu.com/investors.htm

  • TTownTony

    In antebellum Alabama and much of the South, every town had a militia unit and slave patrol. There was a nightly slave curfew and blacks were only allowed out with written permission from their masters. The result was a very low crime rate, especially for murder. At one point in the 1840s when Tuscaloosa was the capital of Alabama, a group of legislators introduced a bill to abolish the death penalty because there were so few murders. The death penalty was no longer considered necessary as a deterrent.

    From that perspective, those were the “good old days!”

    • Pelayo

      The death penalty should have never been abolished. Those who argue that it wasn’t a deterrent lost sight of the fact that it wasn’t used that much. Lengthy appeals practically assured the convicted party that he would probably never see the inside of the execution chamber. Life imprisonment doesn’t work for the most violent. They’re sociopaths, Everything they need is provided for them in prison, including sexual gratification. If they decide that they don’t like a fellow inmate or perhaps the CO on their tier, they can just kill them. What more can be done to them? They’re already serving a life sentence.
      People use the argument that in the UK when they used to hang pickpockets publicly, there were people in the crowd picking pockets. That only proved that the penalty was overused for crimes that by today’s standards are trivial.

  • “Now, not every house has a gun but we’ve got over a quarter-billion guns
    in people’s homes. And they’re mostly in the suburbs and rural areas
    where there is virtually no crime and no murder. “

    Could it be that fact that the reason suburbs and rural areas have virtually no murders is BECAUSE people are known to have guns?

    That’s really the argument of ‘more guns, less crime’.

    And why do (white) suburbs and (white) rural areas have fewer murders than (black) urban areas with fewer guns? More white people with guns, less crime. More blacks with access to fewer guns, more crime.

    That’s the point Mr. Moore is missing and never questioned about.

    • Luis

      sbuffalo, maybe someone should tell Moore about Kennesaw, GA which has had no murders (if I’m right) ever since they mandated a gun in every household, a few years ago.

  • Pelayo

    Despite the horror of the school shootings and the loss of those innocent little lives and those of the adults we can’t lose sight of the fact that there at least that many people murdered every day all over the US by the predatory beasts who have de facto control of the streets. We have a society where a couple out for the evening is abducted, sexually tortured, mutilated and murdered and their killers are already into their second trial because the judge in the original trial was impaired by Rx drugs, as if that changed any of the evidence gathered by law enforcement and a Black so called columnist Leonard Pitts sums it up with “Cry me a river”.
    We also live in society where a 21 year old girl on public transportation is attacked by a simian wielding a sock full of human feces; most likely his own.
    When this ( and I mean “when” not “if”} this so caled government confiscates firearms from law abiding citizens, it is sentencing us (translate ” whites” to death. The prims will go on a nationwide rampage of murder and rape.
    Many people were disappointed by Wayne LaPierre’s remarks yesterday. I agree with him but also support the installation of steel ballistic doors on all classrooms. Once there’s a threat, all the doors should be locked remotely from the main office and then armed security could take out the shooter(s). The cost shouldn’t be an issue. Let’s divert some of the foreign aid to these countries who hate our guts and use that to secure our kids.

  • nobody

    Michael Moore, who undoubtedly lives in a rich majority white gated community, explaining to us why we are silly for being frightened of ghetto black thugs running amok in our neighborhoods. I would love to see Michael Moore send his kids to the public school that I was forced to attend, or even just haul his bulk around my old neighborhood for a few hours.

    • ageofknowledge

      Never going to happen. He prefers the pink cloud he lives on to the real world.

    • OlderWoman

      ‘…who undoubtedly lives in a rich majority white gated community’
      with his obese white wife.

  • nobody

    Thanks for deleting my perfectly reasonable comment guys! This is a good way to get me to respond to that annoying donation pop-up you recently added.

  • SintiriNikos

    He’s right about the imperialist. However, he mentions Spanish-American, Mexican-American, Iraq (he certainly forgot about Vietnam) but he doesn’t single out WWs I and II. I wish for once somebody who pretends to be anti-war to condemn America’s participation in those debacles.

    Also, race is indeed a factor in some people’s choice to own firearms. Although, he of course pretends there is no threat from NAMs. I say, pretend, because I doubt he will be moving back into Flint any time soon.

  • JohnEngelman

    America’s love affair with the gun is often attributed to America’s pioneer heritage. Canada and Australia also have pioneer heritages. They also have stricter gun control laws. What they do not have are large black populations. Blacks, as we know, have a much higher crime rate than whites.

    On most issues I am fairly liberal. I like many things liberals like, and dislike many things liberals dislike. Two and a half years ago, perhaps it was between my fifth and sixth mugging, it dawned on me that everything I dislike about the United States is due directly or indirectly to the large black population.

    I like downtown areas of cities. I like public transportation. Most whites do not like these because they associate them with blacks, and they associate blacks with crime.

    i dislike guns. Nevertheless, many whites want to use something to prevent a mugging, an armed robbery, or an armed home invasion by blacks while waiting for the police to arrive.

    • IstvanIN

      Canada and Australia are both importing Africans by the thousands to do the killing Canadians and Australians won’t do.

      • JohnEngelman

        That is a mistake. I hope they realize it before it is too late.

  • SLCain

    Here is the latest in celebrity hyporcrisy:


    Celebrities, many of whom have almost certainly employed armed body guards, lecturing us on gun control. And also lending his voice to this latest media/government orchestrated campaign? That’s right – Jaime “Kill all the white prople” Foxx.

    • Beyonce is part of that putsch. That’s Beyonce, as in Chris Brown bashed in her face and made it indistinguishable from a pepperoni pizza. The same Beyonce later got “T-H-U-G L-I-F-E” tattooed on her knuckles.

      • Professor Farnsworth

        Rihanna, not Beyonce.

        • Luis

          The funny part is, Rihanna went back to Chris Brown. Kinda like Tina Turner, who tolerated being slapped around by Ike Turner, for what, 20 years.

          • liberalsuck

            There is something psychologically wrong with women who keep going back to men who beat them. It’s a Stockholm Syndrome.

  • Ralph

    Moore is just another self-hating White person who has been conditioned by society to hate all Whites and himself. I suspect things are starting to change, and those such as Moore will soon be seen as the idiots that they are.

  • Luis

    Moore’s comments about fear of other peoples look like he took it straight from this dialogue in the ‘Cape Fear” remake starring Nick Nolte and Robert DeNiro. This is Joe Don Baker’s character “Kersick”, talking to Nolte’s character, “Sam”:

    “…The South evolved in fear. Fear of the Indian. Fear of the slave. Fear of the damn Union. The South has a fine tradition of savoring fear”….

  • Herger

    I don’t fear the lion or the rhino or the Masai as long as they remain in their natural habitat,or in a cage.I have reason to fear any of them if they are in my community and I am unarmed.

  • Laager

    I would welcome confirmation or denial of this story.

    Switzerland has one of the lowest violent crime rates in the world because it has one of the highest rates of gun possession in the world.
    Note that I said possession not ownership.
    Their military training program requires that a certain % of the population is on the national reserve at all times. This means that they keep the weapons they are issued with at home. When mobilised they are instantly equipped with everything they need.
    Whether they are permitted to use this weapon in self defence in peace time I do not know.
    It is also a strange anomaly given that Switzerland has elected to remain neutral in all conflicts in modern times.

    • Michael_C_Scott

      Semi-auto-only versions of the Swiss full-auto military rifles are available for private purchase there.

  • Zapp Branigan

    Pot calling the kettle black, Michael Moore has a concealed carry gun permit and keeps guns at home for protection. He also has armed body guards hired for different occasions.
    Hypocrite that he is.

    • George

      Any chance I could get a citation for his CCW? That information would be useful from a credible source.

  • ageofknowledge

    People own guns for all sorts of perfectly legitimate reasons that have nothing to do with Michael’s blathering.

    I’m old enough to remember when ownership of a gun was a rite of passage to adulthood conferred upon a son by his father who guided him the through the process of learning how to properly use, maintain, and store his first rifle and often the certification process of a good gun owner safety course.

    I watched my Boy Scout neighbors get their first M1 through the government this way at age 16. Tens of millions of young people went through this program without any problems.

    Unfortunately, modern liberals like Michael worked hard to redefine properly socialized family units with good modeling in which guns served important functions into single mother households in which young men grow up without a father and seek to sell drugs for the gang instead.

    The ghetto gang is the result of people like Michael’s social reengineering and then they complain about the consequences afterwards.

  • http://snapperheadsoup.blogspot.com/2012/12/why-george-zimmerman-is-best-argument.html

    Snapper Head Soup of Culture and Politics: Why George Zimmerman Is the Best Argument for Gun Ownership

  • sandy truthtree

    I’m scared of people who don’t have necks

  • Ni123

    I apologize for posting something that is off topic. Just wanted to share: this is the Israeli journalist’s documentary Allah Islam

    Part I http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wE-vNohfqy0
    Part II http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vuqd2aAkxRE

    Unfortunately, there are no English subtitles (yet, people are working on adding them). But from video along one can get the idea.

  • Zapp Branigan

    Ahhh yes Michael Moore….hired as the editor of Mother Jones magazine and fired a few months later because everybody that had to work with him HATED him….as has everyone else that has ever been around him since in a work relationship. He is a mean natured sad sack of crap that has no friends.

    You have to wonder what kind of family he has.

  • k8

    I don’t understand why Michael Moore doesn’t simply pack up and move to England. They don’t have that pesky constitution there, so it looks pretty much like his idea of utopia.

  • gemjunior

    This guy is really out there. He really deserves to be worked over good with some of that wonderful enrichment and diversity that he appears to advocate. Just like Susan Sarandon and Tim Robbins. Are they likely to get that much needed workover out at their homes in Malibu overlooking the ocean? Not likely at all. That why it’s so easy to suggest that we be sitting ducks for any ferocious, hate-filled negro that, foaming at the mouth, is given free-reign to rape and murder whenever the whimsy takes them. If there is one thing I HATE with a white-hot passion, it’s celebrities who mouth off about “white racism”. Michael Moore is public enemy number one IMO.
    He doesn’t seem to understand that in the suburbs or in rural areas whites are not safe as they are not on city streets. There are hate-filled violent blacks everywhere. There is nowhere to run. Wherever we go, they will follow. Unfortunately we can’t say the same about the celebrities – they can’t get in there private communities (yet). So yes, we need to be armed precisely to protect ourselves from these invaders who we were never involved in setting loose on society. All we can do is defend ourselves from them. For those other whites who are disgusted with us: go live amongst those you love so much. Unarmed. See what happens.

  • cojonius

    mm 0f course is a ‘cadillac communist” and an enemy of the republic

  • Rain

    Most Whites purchase guns so they can hope to have an excuse to shoot and murder Black and in some cases, Hispanic people.

  • Paul

    No crime in the suburbs? Clearly he is a moron. He also is a moron to bring up race considering that Columbine, which is loves to talk about, and the shooting in Conn. involved white gunmen. But the real problem is that it doesn’t matter “why” Americans want guns. They clearly do, period. As soon as we have to justifiy to liberal elites “why” we want certain policies we have already lost.

    • Paul

      That should read “he loves to talk about”…

  • David Ashton

    Dude, give the Americans back their country!

  • The Quadfather

    What are we afraid of? Not a damned thing!

  • anarchyst

    Michael Moore’s “schlockumentary” “Roger and Me” was based on falshoods from the word “go”. . . The chairman of General Motors, Roger Smith, offered Moore an nterview but was rebuffed because it would have destroyed the whole premise of the movie. In “Bowling for Columbine” a segment showed a bank offering guns as a promotion to large depositors. What was conveniently omitted was the FACT that the customer was required to undergo the same background checks as a normal non-promotion gun buyer.

    Michael Moore is a charlatan which has made his money on untruths and lies . . .