Two Are Fatally Stabbed and Two Are Shot as Violence Follows Parade

Liz Robbins, New York Times, September 3, 2012

The day had been mostly quiet, except for the thunder of police helicopters and the boom of reggae music coming from the colorful floats of the annual West Indian American Day Parade.

But not long after the official festivities ended, sirens started sounding and violence descended on pockets of Crown Heights, on and around the route off Eastern Parkway. By early evening, the police said, two men had been fatally stabbed and at least two people had been wounded in gun violence, breaking the tenuous calm in Brooklyn.

By the time the parade began around noon—a leisurely 60 minutes later than scheduled, bringing all of its feathery finery and island tunes—the New York City Police Department had long been visibly in place.

”There’s more of them than there are us,” said Vanada Miller, 58, who came from Queens and watched the parade from a bench on Eastern Parkway, wearing a shimmering silver top and waving a Jamaican flag. “It’s much too much, it takes away from it all. But I understand it.”

Bronwin Taylor, 32, who lives in Crown Heights and was born in Jamaica, said on Monday night that the parade was not what it used to be because of the violence.

“I don’t know why people decide to come out and ruin other people’s fun with violence,” she said. “I don’t understand it, but it happens every year.”


Last year, some officers posted racist comments on Facebook about patrolling the parade, and others were caught on video dancing suggestively with participants. {snip}


In recent years, most of the violence had taken place after the parade ended. The official end time for this year’s procession was 6 p.m., and by then the crowds had dispersed.

The police said on Monday evening that around 6:30 p.m., a dispute broke out between two men on St. Johns Place, two blocks from Eastern Parkway. One man, 26, died of stab wounds, and the other, 20, was arrested.

Another man, 27, was pronounced dead at Kings County Hospital after being stabbed on Eastern Parkway, around 6 p.m., the police said. And a woman, 24, and a man, 32, were shot about 5:15 p.m. on Eastern Parkway, the authorities said.

Last year, a resident of Crown Heights, Denise Gay, was sitting on her stoop when she was killed in the cross-fire between police officers and a gunman. That came on a Labor Day weekend in the city when 67 people were shot, 13 of whom died.


The Police Department came under scrutiny after the revelation that officers had posted on the Facebook page “No More West Indian American Day Detail.” One poster called participants “savages” and “animals,” and another suggested, “Let them kill each other.” Seventeen officers were disciplined.


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  • libertarian1234

    “Seventeen officers were disciplined.”

    Telling the truth will never be tolerated in Michael Bloomberg’s version of 1984, New York, 2012.

  • Defiant White

    What a spectacle.  Reminds me of what a Hollywood remake would look like if they combined APOCALYPTO and GORILLAS IN THE MIST.

    Is it just me or does anyone else notice that the savages are unable to let go of their past?  We whites went through our own Stone Age days.  We consider them ancient history.

    Blacks still revel in their Stone Age.

    • “Is it just me or does anyone else notice that the savages are unable to
      let go of their past?  We whites went through our own Stone Age days. 
      We consider them ancient history.”

      You just answered your own question.  OUR Stone Age is their PERMANENT AGE.

      • Northernfront

        “You just answered your own question.  OUR Stone Age is their PERMANENT AGE.”

        That hit me like a STONE.

      • Bad_Mr_Frosty

        So true

  • Didn’t this happen last year?

    Ah, yes: 2011 West Indian Day Parade Marred By Violence (PHOTOS) 

    • JohnEngelman

      One of these years there will be a banner headline:

  • It’s funny how the standard Federal/State line is “we are all equal”, yet clearly the city of New York does not see it that way, what with the HUGE police presence at a parade!  I mean why would a West Indian “American” Day Parade need MORE police than a St. Patrick’s day or Columbus Day Parade?

  • Detroit_WASP

    This violence is an annual event.  In fact, the violence may be the main event. 
    “I went to a stabbing and a parade broke out.”  

  • Ah, yes; shame on those nasty, White racist police officers for telling the truth and letting the chips fall where they may. And those quotes from the “West Indians” about how “a few people done spoiled our parade — again” are hilarious. When blacks gather in large groups, there is always an outbreak of violence. Make that, a BUNCH of outbreaks. It isn’t “a few people,” folks; it’s genetic. Blacks are as prone to violence as dogs are to gnawing bones and chasing cars.

  • LaSantaHermandad

    Two more  young White victims of a Mau Mau in an Old Bridge NJ supermarket.

    The Huffandpuff post carried it but didn’t identify (OF COURSE) the shooter.

  • bluffcreek1967

    What, another Black event which results in people being shot, stabbed and arrested?! How utterly un-shocking! Once again, Blacks when gathered in large groups (sometimes even in small groups) are unable to maintain themselves in a decent, respectful and orderly manner. Even when there’s a large police presence watching over them as if they are foolish little children who need to be constantly monitored (which really isn’t a stretch as an analogy), they STILL manage to shoot and kill each other!

    This is why Whites are alarmed whenever they see a “nice, Black family” move into their neighborhood. The family might indeed be “nice,” but it’s just a matter of time before all their not-so-nice relatives and friends join them. Before long, the neighborhood goes to crap and Whites are, once again, forced to flee.   

  • APaige

    And to think that some people hold up the West Indian Blacks as different than ‘other’ blacks; hard-working, stressing education, behaving, and an example for all. How about disciplining the behavior, not disciplining those that mock the behavior?

  • godzillabloggs

    You must be dreading the next St. Patrick;s Day Parade, with all those Irishman assaulting people and shouting ‘That’s for Trayvon’.

    • Michael C. Scott

      You are forgetting that bad old Violence is “raciss”, and it only picks out certain kinds of parades to “follow”.

  • Rebelcelt

    No wonder Blacks hate us…
    Everytime they gather in umbers someone is attacked, robbed, or just unplesantness abounds.
    They know a festival or County Fair in Nebraska ,Idaho, Iowa is free from such nonsense.Jealousy breeds contempt far better than familiarity.   

  • Great White Observer

    There was also the spectacle of the White Roman Catholic Bishop of Brooklyn gushing on about what a wonderful cultural event this was and then actually marching down Eastern Parkway, with all of the vulgar behavior going on around him. Last time I looked only a small percentage of West Indian’s are Catholic, so what gives here? In the past Mayor Bloomberg and his Police Commissioner Kelly even after all of the mayhem and destruction have gone on about this being a wonderful Day of Family Celebration. If this is the best so called White Politicial and Religious Leader’s can do we are in heap big trouble.

    • The__Bobster

      Catholic Charities makes megbucks resettling immigrants, regardless of their religion.

  • JohnEngelman

    Every year I attend the Greek Festival and the Italian Festival at the city where I live. There are never any fights. The only thing I have to worry about is walking to and from the festivals through a black neighborhood where people do get murdered from time to time. 

  • CharlesFinley

    No surprise here.
    I see bantus EVERYWHERE.
    Giving white people a hard time.  Stealing, raping, murdering…
    Getting all they can from the government.
    Everyone knows they’re the world’s worst “citizens”.
    Really, were cotton and tobacco THAT hard to pick?
    Seems to me, Lincoln deserved that bullet.

  • godzillabloggs

    If you avoid West Indian carnivals in the US because of the violence, you could sample the British version.  Some of the vibrancy has been missing in recent years, although that could be because the press are keeping quiet about it.

    • pc must go

      There’s a video on youtube of serious hardcore violence that broke out at a West Indian Day (black) parade in Baltimore (I think Baltimore, it was near some HSBC black college). That was about 1 year ago.

      • Up to my neck in CA

        Practical use of Knife Sharpening 101?

  • godzillabloggs

    There was one amusing event in a Notting Hill Carnival some years ago.  The Socialist Workers Party entered a float in the parade. It was later attacked and pelted with rubbish by vibrant carnival-goers.