Black Male H.S. Graduation Rates Lag Behind Whites

Suzanne Gamboa, CNS News, September 19, 2012

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The Schott Foundation for Public Education, which has tracked graduation rates of black males from public schools since 2004, said 52 percent of black males who entered ninth grade in the 2006-07 school year graduated in four years. That compared with 78 percent of white, non-Latino males and 58 percent of Latino males.

The foundation releases its report every two years. In 2008, the black male graduation rate was 47 percent.

The progress among blacks closed the racial divide on graduation rates by 3 percentage points over nine years to a 26 percentage-point gap.

“At this rate it would take nearly 50 years for black males to graduate at the same rate as white males,” said John H. Jackson, president and CEO of the foundation. “I don’t think the country can wait. I don’t think any parent or student can wait for half a century to have the same opportunities, education, jobs as their white male counterparts.”

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“These outcomes are not evidence of flaws of young men, but evidence of willful neglect by federal, state, local elected policymakers and leaders,” said Jackson, who is participating in this week’s Congressional Black Caucus legislative conference, which includes education access on its agenda.

With the release of the report, his organization is calling for a moratorium on school suspensions, which have been shown to be used disproportionately on minority children and children with disabilities. {snip}

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  • Imagine how cruel it would be to put someone like me, who has no interest/skill in basketball onto a court, and expect me to slam-dunk. I was not born with the sports gene, and so, hands-down, I leave the ball-tossing to the colored folk. (They’re also very musical)
    It is also cruel to take a black child and sit him in a class with Whites and expect him to care about the Battle of Hastings. Cruel to force him to perform on par as you teach the White kids around him about the superfluidity of the helium 4 atom. Give him a ball and just pat him on the head.

    and then wash your hands

    • JohnEngelman

      Whenever I see a white basketball player, even if he is good at the sport, he makes it look difficult. I want to say, “Isn’t that inspiring? Just think of all the training he endures, hour and hour, day after day. But it sure pays off, doesn’t it?”
                                                 
      When I see a black basketball player I want to say, “Hey, that looks easy. Maybe I ought to get a job doing that.” Then I remember how difficult basketball was in gym class.

    • Detroit_WASP

      You white basketball lovers should start asking for affirmative action in sports.  
      After all, a few 5 foot 5 inch Asians with pocket protectors sewn on their jerseys running up and down the NBA court could only make it better….right?

  • Puggg

    Yes they are evidence in the “flaws of young men.”  In fact, that is by far the best explanation to this disparity.

    Related news:

    http://www.theindychannel.com/news/local-news/pence-marriage-before-kids-finishing-high-school-working-full-time-keys-to-reducing-child-poverty

    Paved With Good Intentions was the first writing of Jared Taylor’s I ever read (that’s probably true for a lot of people).  What Mike Pence is driving at is something that JT said in Paved, that real poverty is almost unheard of for those who graduate from high school and get married.  That might not be the case any more because of the economy.

    The problem with what Pence is trying to say is that it assumes any two people who can get a sum total of four high school diplomas and marriage certificates will rarely live in poverty, when it’s more like the other way around, that any two people who graduates from high school and want to get married have higher IQs than those who don’t, therefore they’ll do things like feed their kids instead of buying frivolous junk for themselves.

    • IstvanIN

      Wow, that makes sense.  Getting a HS diploma at the very least means sticking out 13 years of school.  Getting married means a certain level of planning: getting the license, getting the blood test, getting the preacher, getting the certificate afterwards.  Wow, that is even beyond them

  • jedsrael

    Watch for the gap to suddenly narrow.

    They won’t allow you to audit the findings, but grade inflation through the secret Diveristy Extra Credit Bonus and lowered grading standards will be the weapons used to “attack this ongoing and shameful problem”.

    Naw, that won’t happen. The gap will remain, and with it demands for more money.  That’s what the gap is for- shaking down mo’ dat money outta Whitey.

  • Defiant White

    On the other hand, negroes do excel at coming up with retarded ways to shoot a pistol, running with a football, public corruption, assaulting females and getting into prison.

    So what if they can’t graduate high school?  No one can be expected to be good at everything.

  • Here in the United Kingdom standards have slipped over the last two decades as exams have been made less and less rigorous. Wikipedia states that ‘As of 2011, the pass rate (A-E grades) for A-levels rose for the 29th year running, and was 97.8%.’

    I have a suspicion that this is partially driven by egalitarianism, especially considering many employers and universities have complained about the fact that school leavers increasingly lack essential skills. Some universities even claim that undergraduates are not sufficiently literate and numerate to cope with their syllabuses!

    Ultimately if you make an exam easy enough everybody will pass it but it will be a worthless qualification. This has finally been recognised here and the government’s promising to make exams tougher.

    • toldev

       The same thing has happened in  the USA. It just happened about 20 years earlier. The government’s solution to that was standardized proficiency testing. Now minorities are unable to pass those tests in large numbers and there are always stories of cheating in the news.

  • I wonder how many of black males who fail to graduate from high school eventually get a GED? The reason I ask this is because many of them get jobs like flipping burgers, sweeping floors and washing cars and realize that they cannot make a decent living from working these jobs.

    • Bon, From the Land of Babble

      Blacks have been pushed out of those jobs by Hispanics all across the Southwest — employers prefer Hispanics, obviously — leaving even more blacks unemployed.  Rampant, unfettered Hispanic immigration is never blamed for high black unemployment — it is ALWAYS  White racism or oppression.

      I seriously doubt many go on to get a GED, even that takes some cognitive ability and effort.  As far as I can tell, it looks like once blacks drop out, that is the end of the line for them — many go on to prison or hang out around housing projects all day — ready to go “flash mob” against Racist White Society if the word comes down.  

      This is a very dangerous demographic, there are a LOT of blacks who are uneducated, idle, unemployable, bored and angry — because all of their failures, so they believe, were caused by Whites who wish to “keep them down” — this is the pernicious message they learn in school, from black politicians and from the media.

      But, if these spoiled brats think they are going to take on a heavily armed, increasingly angry White America, where they are outnumbered 14-1, they aren’t going to know what hit them.

      Bon

      • Ed_NY

        Well said Bon, well said!

    • Ed_NY

      The last time I looked,  New York requires that you only have to score a minimum of 35% on each of the 5 parts of the GED exam with an aggregate total of at least 225.  So in reality you only need a passing grade of 45%.   Not too hard for anyone to pass.  I am aware of two illiterate individuals who took the NY GED and passed without ever reading a question.  It was just multiple guess.  Throw some required essays into the mix and see how many will pass.

  • IKantunderstand

    Mr. Jackson, your math is way off. It’s not going to take 50 years for blacks to catch up. It’s going to take 50,000 years. Meanwhile, the rest of us are going bankrupt waiting. Of course, one can only hope that we Whites have managed to flee this planet for another. I know, I know, andrew young says you blacks will follow us wherever we go. That’s because young assumed you would be able to use White technology to do it. There won’t be any technology after we’re gone. Hell, there won’t be any food, electricity, tall buidings, clean water, plumbing, government…Because when we go(however that might come about), you are DOOMED. Have fun, enjoy the cannibalism, juju, and voodoo and all the other magnificent cultural achievements your race is known for.Bon Appetit! Oh, and you’re welcome for clueing you guys into that advanced scientific marvel: the wheel. Maybe after 50,000 thousand years you can invent the car.

    • JohnEngelman

      I estimate 2,000 years. The German tribesmen written about 2,000 years ago by Julius Caesar and Tacitus were about at the level of development of the Bantu two hundred years ago. They had iron tools and weapons, but no cities, no writing, and no mathematics. The political unit was the tribe. The economy combined primitive agriculture and hunting.
       
      Urban civilization breeds for higher intelligence because those who are able to master literacy and mathematics, and who become merchants, government officials, money lenders, artists and so on have more children who survive and reproduce than those who support themselves as laborers. 
       
      If IQ tests had existed 2,000 years ago I suspect the German tribesmen would have done poorly, even if the tests did not require knowledge of writing and mathematics. Currently Germans and Germanic nations average among the highest IQs in the world. 
       
      http://www.sq.4mg.com/NationIQ.htm     

      • IKantunderstand

        Um, Mr. Engelman, I suspect you are jewish. No offense, no one is perfect.  I find it extremely interesting that you decided to compare and contrast Germanic tribes of 2,000 years ago, and bantus. I mean, why Germanic tribes? Do you have a problem with Germans? It seems as if you do. Seriously? Comparing Germans with bantu? What exactly are you afraid of? Oh, and by the way, no one cares about the past, as for the future? I’m betting on the Germans.

        • JohnEngelman

          My ancestors are Gentiles from Germany, England, and German speaking Switzerland. 

        • JohnEngelman

          lKantunderstand,
           
          Thank you for thinking that I am Jewish. 

      • toldev

         Does that even matter? If Germanic tribes at the time had such low IQs, they sure caught up quick and no other group had to spend trillions of dollars for them to do it.

        • JohnEngelman

          The Ashkenazi Jews evolved even faster. During the Roman Empire Jews were not considered to be exceptionally intelligent. Now the Ashkenazim have average IQs of 112, and Jews have won one fifth of Nobel prizes. A lot can happen during two thousand years of evolution, when there is selective pressure in favor of superior intelligence. 

          • Dumb to quote myself, but, ..

            Now, Jews, this old & talented ethno-religious group is in the great
            creative period of their existence, which lasts as yet ca. 150-200
            years. Many other groups or peoples have had such periods- Italians,
            say, 1300-1600; English up and down, but let’s take a look at 1550-1750
            period. During this time, the English had produced: Tallis, Byrd,
            Purcell- composers, Boyle (Irish extraction)- father of chemistry,
            Shakespeare, Milton, Donne, …-literature, Bacon, Hobbes, Locke,
            Berkeley-philosophy, Gilbert- magnetism, Harvey- physiology, blood
            circulation, Newton- the greatest scientist ever, Halley- astronomy,
            Cavendish- physics & chemistry, discovered hydrogen, ..

            So, just
            in this 200 years span the English had created enormously more than Jews
            in past 200 years. And- what does this have to do with IQ & other
            stuff ? Nothing.

            Some peoples have given, in various periods of time,
            more or less important creative contribution to the world civilization.
            As I’ve said- I’m not impressed with some extraordinary “Ashkenazi
            intelligence”. There is also enormous French intelligence, Russian
            intelligence, English intelligence, Swedish intelligence, Italian
            intelligence, German intelligence … manifested in different historical
            periods.

      • Wrong. No black army could have done what Arminius had done in Teutoburg forest. Also, German tribes destroyed Roman Empire ca. 500 yrs after that, and had a script as early as 2nd century A.D. – http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Runes

        Comparison with Bantus is hilariously incorrect.

        • Bon, From the Land of Babble

          The Germanic tribes could not have survived the brutal northern climates with Bantu IQ. 

          In areas where there are long, harsh winters with little sunlight and food, those with lower IQs, were culled out of the gene pool.

          Keeping oneself and family warm, fed and safe in northern environments IS cognitively demanding; scant plant life meant hunting, often for big game.  Success WAS a matter of life and death for the hunter and those dependent on him — only the strong and intelligent survived.

          Mother Nature is a b****.

          Bon

          • I understand your argument, but I doubt it’s persuasive. Just look at Eskimos, or various Asiatics, especially Siberian peoples (Chukchee, Ostyaks, Samoyeds, ..), or Indians in Canada. They have a rudimentary culture, but have learned how to survive. Just, nothing more above basic level.

            That’s where Darwinian reductionism fails.

            The point is that early Germanic peoples, rather isolated as they had been, had developed both organizational skills and a civilization (script, calender, law, religious and secular literature etc.). And they, after the immersion in high Greco-Roman civilization, continued to further develop that civilization (with their own peculiar characteristics).

            Bantus, on the other hand, remained- Bantus. No need to elaborate further.

          • Bon, From the Land of Babble

            In “Northwest Passage,”  Jared Taylor’s review of Richard Lynn’s Race Differences in Intelligence:  An Evolutionary Analysis, M. Taylor asks:  

            “Why, for example, do the Eskimos not have the highest IQs?  They have even thicker trunks and shorter arms than Asians, which shows they have endured harsher cold than Asians.”

            Professor Lynn explains that their environment did push their average IQ into the low 90s, but theorizes that the intelligence breakthroughs found in other races probably required mutations that simply did not take place in small, Arctic bands.  Fortunate mutations are much more likely in large populations.  This may also help explain why North Americans did not develop higher IQs.

            Prof. Lynn, writes that there is a strong correlation of 0.68 between racial IQ and cold-winter environments. There is an even stronger correlation of 0.92 between IQ and lightness of skin color, which developed in northern latitudes.

            http://www.amren.com/ar/pdfs/2006/200606ar.pdf

            Bon

      • JohnEngelman

        Those who have responded to my comment do not seem to have understood it. The Germanic peoples are more evolved than the Negroes by 2,000 years. Nevertheless, the Negroes can catch up. With more genetic diversity they can evolve faster.
                
        2,000 years from now it will not matter. The races will have amalgamated. Miscegenation is accelerating. Then trend will not be reversed.

        • They won’t evolve. They will stay as dumb as they had been 5 millennia ago.
          Shark hasn’t evolved for tens of millions of years, perhaps more. The same with Bantus, on a smaller scale.

          • JohnEngelman

            Sharks have not needed to evolve. They are at the top of the food chain. What they have been doing for millions of years has worked. 
             
            All of the races are facing evolutionary pressures in favor of superior intelligence. 

          • Killer whales are on the top, and they have evolved, unlike sharks. Some species are too dumb to evolve.
            Need or not need, Bantus won’t evolve. They’ll rather become extinct.

            So much for Darwin.

      • the germans where the first people to decimate the roman legions so they had to be smarter than africans today.

        • JohnEngelman

          At the Battle of Cannae in southern Italy in 216 B.C. the Army of Carthage under Hannibal killed 70,000 Roman soldiers in four hours.
                        
          In 100 B.C. at Aix-en-Provence, the Romans killed 90,000 Germans in a single day. 

  • JohnEngelman

    We often hear that we should reduce the dropout rate and raise academic standards. Reducing the dropout rate and raising academic standards is like cutting taxes and balancing the budget. It cannot be done. 
     
    If standards are raised many students discover that they lack the ability or the inclination to meet those standards. These drop out of school, making room for those with the intelligence to learn, and the willingness to study hard.

    • I was talking to my husband the other day about how some of these blacks are 19 and 20 years old and are still in high school! This was not the case in my day. The oldest students in my high school graduation class had already turned 18 because they all had their birthdays before graduation.

    • The Worlds Scapegoat

       I dropped out of High School my junior year because it was boring, and I kept getting attacked by Mexicans. I spent 3 months reading encyclopedias in the public library and learned more in 3 months, than I did in the previous 10 years (except how to read). They found out I dropped out and said I either go to school or go to juvenile hall (jail). I ended up going to another high school and graduating.

      I think Sam Walton (Walmart) dropped out before high school.

      • JohnEngelman

        Good for you. I gradated from college, but most of what I know I have taught myself. 
         

  • Jim

    I think we all know why the gap is narrowing slightly – the rash of teacher assisted cheating scandals in “urban” (black) communities should give you an idea.

    Even with cheating, however, the disparity is enormous. Trying to turn most black kids into accomplished students/scholars is like trying to turn most white kids into basketball players or break dancers – some will make the grade, but most will not measure up.

    • They’re already cooking the books. The gap is unlikely to narrow any more unless they take drastic measures to cheat. When they do it will be obvious and they’ll get caught.

  • shmo123

    “52 percent of black males who entered ninth grade in the 2006-07 school year graduated in four years.

    What they can’t say is how many of that 52 percent just graduated with little reading knowledge, no math skills, and ignorant in virtually everything else. They just wanted to pass them with whatever it took and get rid of them, and from what I read of the state of public schools, I can’t blame them one bit.

  • “At this rate it would take nearly 50 years for black males to graduate at the same rate as white males,”

    If that rate continues that is. The real question is the rate of evolution.

  • Meanwhile, I’m still trying to teach my dog to cook me a steak. I blame his failure the lack of support and funding from my peers and relatives . 

    • Try enrolling your dog in a “Cullinary School” for canines. That might help.

      On a more serious note, I know that many therapy dogs have been trained to do a lot of things to help the diabled, like opening doors, retrieving telecommunications devices and medications for their disabled masters. I’d trust these dogs before I’d trust an AA Bantu with a degree in social work, if I were in that situation.  

  • The Worlds Scapegoat

    I thought High School Diplomas were now being given out in gumball machines. What is the matter now: Blacks can’t afford 25 cents for a gumball machine? More white racism.

  • The Worlds Scapegoat

     The worst part is the the 75 IQ person will think he is worth the same as a 125 IQ person because they both have a HS diploma. You don’t need a college eduction to have a 125 IQ.

    • Another problem is that watering down high school diplomas so everyone gets them makes them meaningless, and results in people unnecessarily needing to enter college (and incur student loan debt) just to get a degree that counts for something.  100 years ago it was easy to be successful with just a high school diploma alone, as it meant something back then.

      • Ed_NY

        And some colleges are handing out diplomas to undeserving minorities.  Look at any black with any diploma with suspicion.

  •  You my friend get a like!

  • JohnEngelman

    The differences overlap. Many Negroes are more intelligent than many whites. 
                                                        
     ——————- 
                                        
    African immigrants to the U.S. are among the most educated groups in the United States. Some 48.9 percent of all African immigrants hold a college diploma. This is more than double the rate of native-born white Americans, and nearly four times the rate of native-born African Americans.[13] According to the 2000 Census, the rate of college diploma acquisition is highest among Egyptian Americans at 59.7 percent, followed closely by Nigerian Americans at 58.6 percent. [14] [15]                   In 1997, 19.4 percent of all adult African immigrants in the United States held a graduate degree, compared to 8.1 percent of adult white Americans and 3.8 percent of adult black Americans in the United States, respectively. [16] According to the 2000 Census, the percentage of Africans with a graduate degree is highest among Nigerian Americans at 28.3 percent.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/African_immigration_to_the_United_States 

    • only 15% of blacks have an IQ of 100 or greater while 50% of whites have the same. You only speak of papers and not knowledge there is a big difference between having a degree from Colombia the college and Colombia the nation. The prev top drill sargent in the army had a fake PHD degree
      http://news.yahoo.com/army-suspends-1st-female-drill-sergeant-leader-141658483.html

    • And your point is?

      I don’t think an engineering degree from the University of Timbuktu, or a doctorate from Mombasa State University is the same as a degree from a European, Japanese, Chinese, or even a Latin university.

  • I Forgot

    What’s up with this guy’s math?  If you’re closing the gap at 3 percentage points over 9 years and you have 26 percentage points left to go before it’s completely closed, then it would take approximately 78 years to close it.  Or did I miss something?

  • LaSantaHermandad

    How about because they don’t want the White man’s education? How about because they spend half the school time wandering the hallways, boldly opening the doors of other classrooms to hail their “homies” and God help the teacher who protests this invasion? How about entering one of these classrooms and repeatedly punching the White kid in the first seat in the second row from the door? How about when the teacher of that class orders him out the door. How about when the intruder says “Ahm takin’ over dis class Muthah F—ah!”
    Does this rise to the level of eligibility for graduation?

    “WAKE UP WHAAT PEOPLE!”   Daniel Carver

  • Sloppo

    This article seems to ignore the fact that many black-majority schools make their results look better than they really are by cheating on standardized testing.  I wonder if the percentage of blacks who should graduate might actually be decreasing while the percentage of blacks who graduate functionally illiterate increases.  

  • Ed_NY

    They already found a way to hand out diplomas to the undeserving and they will continue to do so.

    • “College is for everyone”.

      That has been the dogma of higher education proponents for decades, now.

      Somehow, Shintavious Washington graduating from Chicago State University, with a BA in African-American Studies, isn’t the same as Roger Shaughnessy graduating from Harvard with a BA in nuclear engineering.  

  • Ed_NY

    They also have an aversion to work.  They much prefer to take something rather than earn something.

  • KD_Did

    “These outcomes are not evidence of flaws of young men, but evidence of willful neglect by federal, state, local elected policymakers and leaders,” 
    That is evident in the success that the Cleveland, Detroit, St Louis, LA,…. school districts have had since they have been run by their own. Those elected policymakers have really turned things around, haven’t they?