Funeral Shooting Victims Identified

Alexis Stevens, Atlanta Journal-Constitution, June 8, 2012

The two people killed in a shooting at a DeKalb County funeral were gunmen who fired at one another during an argument, police said Friday.

The dead were identified as Carlos Henderson Jr., 19, and Delmetrius Heard, 28.

Also injured in the shooting were a 12-year-old girl and another man. Their injuries are not life-threatening, police said.

Police said Henderson and Heard were attending the funeral for 19-year-old homicide victim Ryan Devon Guider Thursday at Victory for the World Church near Stone Mountain. As 500 mourners left the North Hairston Road church’s sanctuary, the shooting victims argued and went to their vehicles to retrieve guns.

Ryan Guider


In the aftermath of the shooting Thursday, DeKalb Public Safety Director William Miller had said police believed the man accused of killing Guider, Marcus D. Ventress, attended the funeral and ended up in the church’s parking lot with a gun, fired several shots into the air and other people returned fire.

Friday, police backed away from that, saying there is no indication Ventress was there. He is still sought in the May 27 killing of Guider.

Witnesses said as many as eight shots were fired at the funeral. {snip}


The church’s pastor, Kenneth L. Samuel, who founded the church in 1987, told the AJC he heard the commotion but didn’t immediately know what had happened. But the irony between what he had just said during the eulogy and the acts the followed was almost surreal, he said.

“This is exactly what I was preaching,” Samuel said. “There are too many guns. There are too many young people who do not know how to handle anger. We’ve got to find a better way. Our message has got to be peace.”


Authorities said Ventress, 28, shot Guider as retaliation. Law enforcement sources told investigators that Guider “burglarized the home of Ventress, stealing jewelry, cash and drugs and punching Ventress’ mother,” Sgt. Adrion Bell with the DeKalb County Sheriff’s Office said. Police said Ventress also is accused of shooting into an apartment in the 5800 block of Treecrest Parkway, thinking Guider lived there.



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  • I was wrong about something.

    I  said last week the most dangerous place on Earth was a black anti-violence rally.

    Egg, meet my face.

    The most dangerous place on Earth is a black funeral.  Ironically, this was to mourn a homicide victim. 

    Now, these two vics will have their own funerals, and there will be murders at those.  It’s like a vicious cycle.

    • Like a nuclear chain reaction about to hit critical mass.

    • Strider73

      Perhaps all black churches should double as funeral homes. It would save a lot of time and travel.

      Note to pastor Samuel: There aren’t too many guns, but there are way too many blacks. But as long as they confine their murder & mayhem to each other, the rest of us should simply stand to one side and let them self-destruct.

      • mikejones91

        I have an idea for a business venture. To sell “side walk memorial kits”, like the ones you see whenever a black is shot by another black. Teddy bears/picture frames/balloons/plush heart/disposal camera/candles/ in a convenient all-in-one package! Coming to a bodega near you!!! 

      • Anan7

         I wouldn’t say there are too many blacks, rather there are too many blacks in White areas.

        Africans were meant for Africa.  Europeans cultivated and built America and it should be reserved for them.

  • Francis Galton

    I’ve noticed that these types of stories are becoming strangely reminiscent of suicide bombers in the Middle East–in both cases, people are going about ostensibly normal business when, out of nowhere, deadly weapons are discharged in such a way that bystanders are killed.  Blacks with guns are the suicide bombers of America.  Thank God that blacks aren’t intelligent enough to build bombs or discharge them properly!

  • haha – let these black dogs kill each other off.
    They do, what a white would get ZIMMED for!

  • JackKrak

    Is there any social occasion or function that blacks won’t ruin by their inability to control themselves?

    • haroldcrews

      If baby showers aren’t immune I see no reason why funerals would be.

    • xthred


  • APaige

    If they had better aim it could have cut down on future transportation cost and the title of a made for TV movie: Murder at a Funeral.

  • This may be the first time I’ve read a story where the shooters actually hit the person they were aiming at. Of course, there was some collateral damage but, hey, nobody’s perfect.

    • They might have been aiming at others, normally when 2 gangbangers shoot at each other from across the street they end up shooting little girls

  • Church_of_Jed

    From what we hear, Atlanta is very Diverse and very proud of being the cradle of the Civil Rights movement, which means Atlanta is doing better than most at “undoing” White privilege.   Since I’m White, I’ll ignore that the mugshot is of a Diversity, and I will double down on my commitment to foster Diversity and help minorities by highlighting their outstanding accomplishments and enriching contributions. I hope to give a meaningful voice to calls that the media must to do a better job of presenting the community of color in positive ways that counter bigotry and racism.

    • blight14

       I’m certain you’ve typed in the wrong url…….this isn’t the site you were looking for…..Run along now…..

  • mikejones91

    The paramount of TNB. 

  • mikejones91

    Well done hahaha.

  • xxxtonygunsxxx

    for anybody interested the pat mcdonough radio show starts at 8 eastern tonight sat you can hear it on wcbm dot com streaming. good show he is CALLING OUT BLACK MOB ACTION IN BALTIMORE

  • Talk about a brimstone and “fire” sermon – the Rev. Samuel must have thought the holy spirit visited his church, what with all those tongues of (gun)fire on display.

    What with that corpse-lover in Ohio, the cemetery debacle in Illinois, and this shootout at a funeral service, I truly believe Bantus have no respect for the dead, whatsoever – certainly those of other races, but especially none for their own.

    And this from the race that thinks it’s being “disrespected” by other races.  

  • xxxtonygunsxxx

     Turquorius Vines, 23, said he was at the pool party on Saturday evening at the apartments with one of his friends, Pitts…(….Turquorius Vines….) that basically tells you the whole story….

  • Major

    “near Stone Mountain”

    Does anyone else see the irony in this like I do?

    Yup…”Rev”…blame it on dem guns….they sure do act strangely sometimes…they just go off by themselves…lawdy, lawdy. I declare.

  • Johnny Reb

    QUOTE:  “This is exactly what I was preaching,” Samuel said. “There are too many guns. There are too many young people who do not know how to handle anger.”

    Nope.  There are too many negroes. 

    And there are way too many with too much time on their hand.  Five hundred people attended this kid’s funeral.  From I’ve read, cops suspect he was murdered in retaliation for a home burglary he committed. 

    Burglars must be popular in Georgia this time of year.

  • Up to my neck in CA

    There should be guns laws in place…against low IQ, poor impulse control blacks.

  • Gotsumpnferya

    Actually, Samuel should have said “There are too many monkeys”.

    Too many monkeys, with access to firearms.