Blacks, Nonblacks Hold Sharply Different Views of Martin Case

Gallup, April 5, 2012

Black Americans’ views differ dramatically from those of nonblacks regarding the circumstances involved in the death of 17-year-old Trayvon Martin in Sanford, Fla., on Feb. 26. Blacks are paying much closer attention to the news of the incident; overwhelmingly believe that George Zimmerman, the individual who shot Martin, is guilty of a crime; believe that racial bias was a major factor in the events leading up to the shooting; and believe that Zimmerman would already have been arrested had the victim been white, not black.


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  • redshirts

    This is very bad news and will only hurt us.

    The elites will use it as “more shocking evidence that America is still a deeply divided and racist country that can only be cured through more anti racism training, social justice classes, Diversity inclusion policies, Somalia immigration, Amnesty for undocumented workers, the vote for ex-cons, more funding for negro Head Start, more Critical Race Theory training for White teachers to admit that their racist White privilege directly causes the Achievement Gap, and justice for dat no_limit_nigga_treyvon Diversity Son of Obama.”

    Whenever we see encouraging news that White Humanity has not entirely succumbed to the voodoo Moloch of the Diversity Curse, our enemies see encouraging news that they can use as “more proof” to race hustle, mau mau and shakedown Whitey.

    What we see as good, they see as better, because they can say, “See, not only was Hate Whitey a good policy, because Whitey is incurably racist, but we now have justification for even more stepped up Hate Whitey, he he he, ha ha ha, heh heh he, ho ho ho, all up ‘en hee-ah.”

    Whenever White Humanity reasserts, we just create bigger ammo for our enemies weapons.

    Anti-Racism is codeword for Anti-White. Diversity is a vile hate crime against God’s kingdom plan for our White privilege and violates White Humanity’s ordained destiny.

    If you don’t yet have Negro Fatigue, you will.

    • haroldcrews

      That is only the case when they can control the message and can drown out any competing narrative.  But that is not the case any longer.  The MSM has to compete with the freedom of the internet.  It wants those eyeballs even if it means reporting the truth on occasion.

    •  I cannot agree: I think this incident is proving to be a severe disappointment to the liberals and race-hustlers. If the leftists had been able to more strongly control the story and promote their narrative (or simply had all the facts actually on their side), it could have had much more severe consequences. Tactically, it will be a draw, unless some follow-up case of allegedly “racist” behavior occurs soon. Strategically, I also see it as indecisive, besides for the fact that it has established the new tactic of treating non-whites as white and “white Hispanic” when it is perceived to be useful.

  • WmarkW

    The majority of whites (61 percent) agree we haven’t enough facts yet.
    27 percent of blacks agree.

    That’s just a little less than one standard deviation.

  • No

    This just proves the fundamental dullness of blacks.

    Supposedly, they’re “paying much closer attention to the news” yet they’re still convinced Zimmerman is a racist and that race played a major role.

    What “news” do they listen to?  

    Asking your crack dealer for insights and analysis as you swig on your foty doesn’t count. 

    • haroldcrews

      They’re watching Sharpton on MSNBC of course.

  • Oil Can Harry

    Aren’t these the same people who said OJ and Mumia Abu-Jamal were innocent and that Tawana Brawley and Crystal Mangum were credible sexual assault victims? 

  • redshirts

    Racism never raises its ugly head until something uglier first appears.

  • Whiteyyyyy

    Blacks believe what they want to believe. If they had sense they’d cut their losses on No limmit nigga. He’s a loser and it’s going to hurt them inthe long run 

    • haroldcrews

      Blacks have any number of self-destructive pathologies.

  • blacks’ preception of reality is vastly different from other races.  They look at everything as it relates just to them, nothing else matters. They also view everything as a victim would,  their brainwashing has been that effective.

  • Impertinent

    Maybe..but it’s whites who mostly have legal weapons and CCW’s. But we all know that gun laws don’t stop blacks from getting illegal arms.

  • redshirts

    Sanford’s officials are acting like Race Realists:

    City of Sanford prepares for response to George Zimmerman decision

    Sanford Mayor Jeff Triplett said on Thursday that the city’s emergency management team has met regularly with the U.S Department of Justice to construct a plan. Officials said extra police officers and fire department officials are on standby. Neighboring agencies have also been asked to assist, if needed.


    Racism doesn’t rear its ugly head until something uglier shows up first.

  • crystal evans

    I personally am waiting to see how this all plays out before having an opinion on the guilt or innocence of George Zimmerman.

  • Greg West

    FYI, you’ll also find differences in math and reading scores between black and whites.

  • JackKrak

    These people will believe anything – the CIA supplied crack to black neighborhoods, a certain drink has been poisoned to make black men impotent, etc. They are only a couple of steps removed from some witch doctor throwing chicken bones on the ground to look for a sign of good fortune.

  • Kurt Plummer

    Whites need to understand they are dealing with a different type of mentality that hovers collectively just above retardation level but thats not trying to insult retards.

    Blacks know what they are doing, at least insofar as their actions are a deliberate, dominance seeking, attempt to gain leverage from -any- moment.  They are like women in their ability to read the social contexts of a given situation and active seek to exploit them.  Whether through aggression or victim entitlement or letting others speak for them that they themselves don’t have to expose any position at all so much as reflect what the common standard seems to be.

    WE are the socially retarded who believe that this dispute is not part of an ongoing war and that victory is not an inertial slide, like a slow motion avalanch, of continuous psychological pandering as defeatism in keeping the big bad black people at bay.

    What WE need to do is rapidly set up the wealth building systems to bring as many whites under one roof of ethnic as racial solidarity as possible.  Buy in our own and when the time comes, secession will be -much- simpler.

    I maintain that this is not our issue to be mad about.  It is the Hispanics and the Jews.  They have also been engaged in a low level race war with blacks for the better part of half a century (who isn’t, in close proximity with them?) and if we do -anything- at all, it should be as a concentrated effort of deflection which says, not whether Zimmerman is guilty or innocent.

    But rather ‘Don’t bother us, it’s _not our problem_.’

    For only by refusing to be baited into their game do you really frustrate black instinctive social psychology.  I learned this the hard way, in Respite, when the black drug dealer who shared my room started mouthing off and found in my silence no way to dominate me with volume or constant repetition of scathing commentary as personal attacks.  It drove him nuts that I would have nothing to do with him.

    Because, like a woman, he was totally dependent on created, conflictive, angst.  To set his own compass.

    • There is something into it, but only partially. I disagree with the conclusion.

      1) I’ve observed some time ago that Blacks were in some respects like women. For instance:

      * they are not so great drivers, i.e. their spatial intelligence is not enviable
      * they do not excel in exact sciences or technology
      * they frequently act on the spur of the moment, i.e. “emotionally”, better instinctively
      * they are in interpersonal discourse passive-aggressive, i.e. behaving like
      a wronged & helpless side
      * they constantly whine about being trampled by White MAN

      On the other hand, they differ profoundly from White women:

      * they generally lack empathy
      * males are, of course, physically aggressive, although mostly in packs
      * they lack humanist & caring attitude WW show towards members of out-group
      * they lag very much behind WW re verbal skills
      * WW, even at this stage of decadent civilization, want home & family.
      Blacks- very rarely.
      * they cannot compare with WW re social intelligence

      2) and, the final- if this is the proper word- goal of both Blacks and WW is similar: to carve out the biggest possible place for themselves in the White man’s world.

      Because they know that they themselves cannot rule the countries, let alone continents or the globe.

  • xxxtonygunsxxx

     Zimmermnan committed no crime.

    2011 Florida Statutes CHAPTER 776 JUSTIFIABLE USE OF FORCE[17]

    776.012 Use of force in defense of person.—A person is
    justified in using force, except deadly force, against another when and
    to the extent that the person reasonably believes that such conduct is
    necessary to defend himself or herself or another against the other’s
    imminent use of unlawful force. However, a person is justified in the
    use of deadly force and does not have a duty to retreat if:

    (1) He or she reasonably believes that such force is necessary to
    prevent imminent death or great bodily harm to himself or herself or
    another or to prevent the imminent commission of a forcible felony; or(2) Under those circumstances permitted pursuant to s. 776.013.

    • xxxtonygunsxxx

      776.032 Immunity from criminal prosecution and civil action for justifiable use of force.—

      (1) A person who uses force as permitted in s. 776.012, s. 776.013,
      or s. 776.031 is justified in using such force and is immune from
      criminal prosecution and civil action for the use of such force, unless
      the person against whom force was used is a law enforcement officer, as
      defined in s. 943.10(14), who was acting in the performance of his or
      her official duties and the officer identified himself or herself in
      accordance with any applicable law or the person using force knew or
      reasonably should have known that the person was a law enforcement
      officer. As used in this subsection, the term “criminal prosecution”
      includes arresting, detaining in custody, and charging or prosecuting
      the defendant.

      (2) A law enforcement agency may use standard procedures for
      investigating the use of force as described in subsection (1), but the
      agency may not arrest the person for using force unless it determines
      that there is probable cause that the force that was used was unlawful.

      (3) The court shall award reasonable attorney’s fees, court costs,
      compensation for loss of income, and all expenses incurred by the
      defendant in defense of any civil action brought by a plaintiff if the
      court finds that the defendant is immune from prosecution as provided in
      subsection (1).

  • Anonymous

    Which is what angers me when whites appease this thinking and think this crazy racial paranoia they have is rational.  I say, “Don’t these crazy conspiracies blacks hold about whites sound as crazy as what the Nazis said about Jews?  They blamed everything wrong in the world on Jews and claimed Jews were out to get them.  Doesn’t that sound crazy?  Why does this crazy talk from blacks not sound equally crazy?  You will never appease these people.  They will never respect you or be grateful.”

  • Anonymous

    When I feel bad for having anti-black feelings, I think about the race hustlers, the black on white violence, the crime in black neighborhoods, how the system favors their side over us every time and then I stop feeling ashamed for not being sympathetic to blacks.

  • To wit:  They’ve nabbed two white men (“white whites” — NYT) for those Tulsa murders:

    The rank hypocrisy from almost everyone involved in this article is jaw-dropping.  All I’ll say is this:  They say “dah communnitee” came together and was instrumental in bagging these suspects.  They’re not so instrumental or helpful when black kills black or black kills white:  The cops will ask fifty people who were standing around at or near the scene, and magically, nobody will have seen anything.  The only reason the cops will be able to find a suspect at all, if they find one, is because they, like PDs in cities with lots of blacks, have lots of stool pidgeons who are being strung along for information in exchange for the cops not referring relatively minor drug or gun charges to the DA’s office.