Report on Europe finds ‘Numerous’ Anti-Christian Actions, Crimes

Kevin J. Jones, Catholic News Agency, March 21, 2012

A new report says that 85 percent of hate crimes committed in Europe during 2011were aimed at Christians.

The report, from the Austria-based Observatory on Intolerance and Discrimination Against Christians in Europe, summarized incidents ranging from vandalism and insults to the suppression of religious symbols, desecrations, “hate crimes” and religiously motivated violence.

Dr. Gudrun Kugler, director of the observatory, said studies suggest that 85 percent of hate crimes in Europe are directed against Christians.

“It is high time for the public debate to respond to this reality!” Kugler said.

In Scotland, 95 percent of religiously motivated violence targets Christians. In France, 84 percent of vandalism is directed against Christian places of worship.

The observatory has also monitored professional restrictions on Christians. A restrictive definition of freedom of conscience means that professions such as magistrates, doctors, nurses, midwives and pharmacists are “slowly closing for Christians.”

Teachers and parents “get into trouble” when they disagree with state-defined sexual ethics, the report said.

One survey in the U.K. indicates popular perception agrees. Seventy-four percent of poll respondents said that there is more negative discrimination against Christians than people of other faiths.

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  • anonymous_amren

    Sounds good to me. Why should non-consenting people be subjected to such nonsense.

    And we urgently need that to happen to Islam and other religions too.

    • Boereseun

      So…it’s acceptable to persecute Christians because you believe they subject you to nonsense? Freedom be damned, they must suffer because they are not atheists. How many Christians actually go around subjecting you to nonsense anyway; or is it because you have to look at a beautiful Cathedral once in awhile, perhaps a nun working in a hospital or a private Catholic Law school not willing to give birth control to Sandra Flukes? Christians are rather weak now anyway, nice time to get a good kick in.

      Sounds much the same as believing ‘racists’ must suffer because they still believe there are different races.

      If you don’t like Christianity or its believers, leave them alone.

      • Formerly_Known_as_Whiteplight

         I think we’d be happy to if Christians only left us alone.  What you mean is left alone to dominate everything.  If we aren’t vigilant, Christians would create the U.S. into a theocracy.

      • anonymous_amren

        Who said anything about persecution? Not forcing it on people who don’t or can’t consent is in no way persecution.

        • Boereseun

          How else do you propose to make it such that Christianity would only be practiced behind unmarked buildings so as not to offend your sensibilities, if not to make life intolerable for Christians to carry out their lives in the open? 

          I would agree with you about the non-consensual part but I would remind you that no Christian is forcing their religion on you, they might talk to you, perhaps irritate you but that is not forceful.

          You seem to be under the impression that the Pope still has an army and is forcing people to convert under threat of death or torture. Which is rather laughable at this point in time. The Church is weak and cowers to everyone and everything. Hardly a bunch of people demanding sinners to be tortured.

          I would rather focus on what I have in common with fellow people interested in the rights of whites, instead of bickering over Christianity and secularism. I am Christian, I choose to be one and that’s is how I live my life. I don’t agree with the Church, as it is now, at all. I find most of modern day Christianity to be a joke, especially priests taking advantage of children and their one world idealist view. I also find the Church’s stand on immigration to be astoundingly arrogant and short sighted.

          However, Christianity is the core of my being, you may not like that or even accept it but that’s what it is. My problems with Christianity are with the Church, not with God, and trying to over come them also led me to see the increasingly anti-white views of the world and to the see the media’s lies and deceit. I thank God for that. I would still be in the dark about the world’s problems had it not been for my skepticism over the teachings of the Church.

          You may not like to hear about Christianity and probably think it’s a backwards cult of silly people who believe in a Sky daddy. I don’t mind that at all. You’re free to have your own opinions.

    • Formerly_Known_as_Whiteplight

       I am in 100% agreement with you!

  • anonymous_amren

    Let’s put this in perspective… Christians, by definition, think they are going to sadistically torture all non-Christians forever after they die, usually in the most heinous ways imaginable. They are mistaken, and will never have that opportunity, but the fact that they plan on doing so outweighs any possible harrassment and vandalism Christianity faces in the real world.

    When they stop wanting to sadistically torture me forever just because I understand science and logic, then I’ll show some sympathy.

    On the other hand, if this is perpetrated by non-white or non-western invaders in white western countries, then it’s also an attack on me personally, and I want the perpertrators caught, punished, and deported.

    • Ummm….what are you talking about?  Specifically, “Christians, by definition, think they are going to sadistically torture all non-Christians forever after they die, usually in the most heinous ways imaginable.” 
      I must have skipped Sunday School the day they covered that.

      • I think he’s talking about the concept of Hell.

        • Boereseun

          Yea, this still make no sense considering his remark about Christians.

          ‘Christians, by definition, think they are going to sadistically torture
          all non-Christians forever after they die, usually in the most heinous
          ways imaginable.’

          The very idea of being a Christians means you don’t want to go to hell but to heaven. It will not be Christians doing the torturing in hell and therefore his entire premise is misguided if not entirely futile. He wants to punish Christians because Christians believe in a hell and a heaven. In other words, anonymous amren, wants to persecute those who believe differently to what he does.

          His belief is not that different from the Leftist world view.

          The very funny thing is he wants to place very REAL punishment on Christians for having a different set of beliefs to his own and doesn’t realise that if he is 100 % right in everything he says, there will be no punishment in hell and therefore no torture. So…he believes in punishing Christians for doing absolutely nothing but believing in something.

          If Christians are right, well… still won’t be Christians doing the torture…sorry anon.

      • Formerly_Known_as_Whiteplight

         You missed reading the classics of Western literature.  This description is from Dante’s Inferno.

        • Kblankenship7

           What stature does Dante have as a theologian?  What councils or synods have adopted his views as orthodox?  He was a great literary figure, but was no theologian.  The fact that you cite him for a description of hell belies your ignorance of the Bible and Historical Theology.

    • haroldcrews

      Anonymous_amren, you need to check in with your doctor perhaps your dose needs to be adjusted.  Or have you stopped taking your meds altogether?

    • Okay, since some Muslims think that they’ll get to boink 72 virgins for all eternity if they commit some sort of violence against infidel and die in the name of Islam, does this mean we’re justified in killing them by itself if they don’t do anything to us?

      Under your standard, just about everyone who ever lived deserves to be/to have been executed, because nobody is 100% perfectly rational through every moment of their conscious lives.

      • anonymous_amren

        I was talking about grafitti and insults, not execution. Remember we’re talking about “Hate Crimes” here, like the ones we are always accused of.

        The article here only talks about vandalism, pharmacists being forced to sell contraceptives, courts being forced to obey the law, and teachers and parents getting into trouble. Things inflicted on them by their fellow Europeans. And I don’t feel sympathy for them.

    • Boereseun

      Basically your whole premise boils down to, ‘Christians believe that you go to hell if you don’t believe in God, Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit and therefore they deserve to be harassed, their property vandalised and possibly even killed because of it’? Is that right?

      I don’t have any notions of wanting to torture you or anyone else for bleeding eternity. What a disgusting thought. I have far more important things to use my time for. Talk about a waste. Perhaps it is you who want to torture and harass Christians simply for not believing in your ‘logic’?

      Science has never stopped me being a Christian, nor has Christianity stopped me from enjoying a good scientific debate, even one concerning the existence of God. However, the nonsense coming out of your comment is neither scientific nor debatable, it’s merely the same shrill nonsense that comes out of Tim Wise’s mouth time and again.

      • anonymous_amren

        “Is that right?”

        Close, but not quite. My whole premise premise actually boils down to:
        ‘Christians believe that you should go to
        hell if you don’t believe in God and Jesus, and therefore they deserve
        to be
        harassed, and their property “vandalised” because of
        it’.

        And that should makes all the difference.
        It’s not that they believe that torture will happen, it’s that they
        believe that torture should happen.

        “I don’t have any notions of wanting to torture you or anyone else for bleeding eternity.”

        Then you are not a Christian. Not wanting to torture people is one of
        the many reasons white people no longer truly believe in Christianity,
        but Black and Hispanic people do.

        Torture, no. Harass, yes. Harassing people with facts and logic is
        vitally important whenever a large group of people believe in complete
        nonsense, whether that’s magical sky pixies or racial and cultural
        equality.

        • Boereseun

          You merely described a ‘thought crime’. Christians believe you go to hell if you don’t repent your sins. They don’t actually do anything to you on Earth at all. If Christians are wrong, absolutely nothing happens to you or anyone else. If Christians are right, they merely informed you and you chose to dismiss them, hardly their fault that you end up in hell.

          You seem like you want to browbeat Christians into thinking like you do. Christians can’t even have a thought without being guilty of the most heinous crime and deserving of your utter scorn.

          What makes it so nonsensical for there to actually be a ‘God’, one who created humans, the universe and the physical laws that reside in this universe? Scientific knowledge does not disprove a higher being. It merely proves that humans are not always correct, which is common sense anyway.

          Not every book in the bible is 100 % provable but at the same time, most, if not all, scientists will have their theories proved wrong in due time. If we go according to your belief, everything those scientists proved and did was worthless as they were proved wrong about a part of their theory. 

          As for not being a Christian since I don’t want to torture people for eternity? Not much to say to that really. It’s the most nonsensical thing I’ve heard in a long time. On one hand, we’re not Christian if we don’t turn the other cheek so that other people can bash us time and again and on the other hand, according to you, if Christians don’t believe in torturing others, they are not really Christians. Yes I know, being a Christian these days is tough, with other people deciding how we should act and think all the time.

    • Anonymous, you are on our watch list of Most Likely to Commit Crimes Cited in the Above Article.

      • Formerly_Known_as_Whiteplight

         See, here is proof that Christians cannot stand to be questioned or reasoned with.  The fact is that many whites of European descent have moved beyond the superstition and vanity of Christianity.  This culture of using reason and logic has been a Western philosophical practice since long before the advent of Christianity.  Comments like John’s sets thinking whites on guard.  It informs that if they had no restraint, many Christians would be murdering non-believers and “wrongbleivers” very soon.  The worse part of it is that many of them consider themselves race realists.  Realism is an old philosophical position and has nothing to do with superstitious religions like Islam, Judaism, and Christianity.

      • anonymous_amren

        Given that the crimes cited in the article above are things like insults, forcing courts to obey the law, forcing pharmacists to sell contraceptives, etc. I’ll take that as a compliment.

  • saxonsun

    Not a darned thing are we doing.

  • Eagle_Eyed

    Once Europe lost its Christianity, it began to lose its identity; and once it lost its identity it lost all ability to fight for conserving its culture or people.  Religious belief is very important to any society, and without a doubt Europe thrived for centuries where other civilizations failed precisely because of the moral foundations and purposeful life Christianity brought its inhabitants.

    Now atheistic, the Whites in Europe are dying off.  They stand for nothing, because they believe in nothing.  Why reproduce?  Why fight off the muslim immigrant invasion with sensible policies?  Islam, the most cursed and backward of all belief systems, threatens and murders the infidel yet the leftist Euro blames the Christian.  The very land of Luther, Leibniz, Aquinas, Newton, Pascal, and Calvin has become completely unrecognizable as Muhammads outnumber Johns/Jeans/Jans/Ivans in babies born in England, France, and elsewhere.

    • Formerly_Known_as_Whiteplight

       How can that be when this article says that 95% of the people attacked in Europe are Christians.

      Of course, you are plain wrong.  If it had been up to Christianity, most people in Europe would still be illiterate, the world would still be flat, anyone doubting would be tried tortured, tried again and then burned.  Liberation from Christianity was hard won in Europe, even if a remnant of the religious wars is still smoldering in Northern Ireland.  Christianity held Europe captive and is responsible for so many deaths of white Europeans that it would take another thousand years of Islamic domination for them to catch up to the Christian record.  The real problem is that white Europe can’t stand another thousand years of religious purging.

      Your delusion about atheists and modern Europeans is untrue.  It is the governments that are overwhelming them with foreigners and making few or no children a better choice.  But it is not true everywhere.  I have a friend in Slovenia and the government there actively supports families having more children.  He is in his second marriage and raising his second family, his older two sons having already grown up and having their own families.  You speak in generalities and through your religion because you have no real understanding and experience in the actual locations.

  • I don’t know about that, but it’s going to be a real test of his personal constitution.  It was one thing for the media to hate him while he was perched in flyover country.  Now he’s going figuratively into the den of the cobras.  That’s all I’ll say, everyone can draw their own implications.  Think about the 23rd Psalm.

  • jeffaral

    Funny!   The Chatolic Church is a  strong supporter of immigrant mass invasion.  Catholic agencies  are busy as hell in Africa sending more christian black “refugees” to Europe.  

  • jeffaral

    Funny!   The Chatolic Church is a  strong supporter of immigrant mass invasion.  Catholic agencies  are busy as hell in Africa sending more christian black “refugees” to Europe.  

  • Everyone reading this article needs to immediately go out and watch the 1973 version of The Wicker Man.  Do not read a review, do not peer at the DVD case …  the fact that I am recommending it in this context is “spoiler” enough.  Just watch it, please.  You will not be sorry.

    • Formerly_Known_as_Whiteplight

       I have been aware of the cult film The Wicker Man (1973) since the early 1980s.  I don’t know why you bring it up here.   It is a film about Scottish Pagans tricking a fanatical Christian cop into a plot aimed at providing him with sainthood and them with a holy sacrifice according to the “old religion.”  It has nothing to do with Islam’s growing persecution of Christian symbols or of whites in Europe.

      The term “Christians” in this article really means “whites.”  I doubt they have statistics on how many whites in their victim group were actually believing Christians and not secularists, or agnostics, or even atheists.  I think that there is an assumption that everyone in Europe that is not a Muslim is a Christian.   This sort of projection is typical of Christians.

      Calvinism is the form of militant Christian elitism that has its expression in America in the Christian Conservative.

  • ” In Scotland, 95 percent of religiously motivated violence targets Christians.”    The Scots are especially anti-Christian because, in my opinion, they have the Celtic cynicism of the Irish plus are in the unique position among their British Isle brethren of having been under the yoke of Calvinism. 

  • The German U-boat commander is right.  It is the ultimate in procrastination.  A person knows he is going to die someday, but he does not want to deal with it because it is difficult.  So to rationalize his laziness, he decides there is no proof of God anyway (even though he believes lots of other things that “have no proof” according to his “system” of logic).  But then, in his final hour, he always always ALWAYS becomes a believer.  What a laugh!

  • Formerly_Known_as_Whiteplight

     The majority of Christians in the world are NOT white.  Christians believe because they are afraid of death, afraid of life, and afraid of thinking. 

    Pre Christian Europe did fine.  In fact, it was a peaceful place until the Romans and then Roman Catholics invaded it and turned it into a land of warring factions that eventually led to two world wars and its own final demise.  The death of the White European is Christianities fault.  For anyone who knows history and is objective this is plain.  Islam is just picking up the crumbs left by the feast Christianity has had for nearly two thousand years.

  • Formerly_Known_as_Whiteplight

     As long as the Christians were kept in place!  It was only recently that they stopped killing one another  and others because of their beliefs! 

  • Formerly_Known_as_Whiteplight

     As one who understands science and logic, please tell me and others who might be curious, how you square such things as the creation myth, virgin birth, resurrections, miracles, and other myths of Christianity, btw, borrowed from other extant or earlier “pagan” religions?  And what is  your evidence for the existence of “God” and “Jesus?”  Aren’t you aware that this stuff was made up by people seeking power over others and is highly illogical and superstitious?

  • Formerly_Known_as_Whiteplight

     Who is, whites or everyone?  And why can’t whites be as merciful and passionate toward non-whites, like God and Jesus is, or is your version for white people only?

  • Formerly_Known_as_Whiteplight

     Don’t you see how ridiculous this discussion is?  Who will be doing the torture to who, while we will be in heaven, doing what?  And where in the universe will this all take place?  You guys used to think it was literally under the ground and in the clouds.  Ooops, need to re-locate!

  • Formerly_Known_as_Whiteplight

     You are hilarious.  You ought to read the history of your own religion in Europe and even here in America.  It wasn’t that long ago that Christians were killing one another over the details of your nonsense.  It wasn’t all that long ago that Christians were dragging people from their houses and burning them alive.  Everyday, we hear some sort of witnessing somewhere, it never stops.  If people aren’t knocking on my door, they’re witnessing on tv, on news shows, etc.  You don’t realize how completely obnoxious you all are.   If you weren’t running to church and repeating your prayers all the time, your common sense would creep in and make you question your beliefs.  It is fear the motivate the Christian and it is upsetting to you when you see people doing and feeling just fine as non-believers.

  • Formerly_Known_as_Whiteplight

     No, he’s not.  And it is the height of arrogance for you to suppose he would or I would.  I have seen atheists die, steadfast and braver than any Christian I’ve ever seen.  Which begs the point and question; Why is it that Christians are always so afraid to die when they supposedly believe that they are going to heaven?  I think that deep down, you all know you’ve got as much a chance with this as the Eastern Bunny has to bring you a candy egg or Santa a new train set.

  • Formerly_Known_as_Whiteplight

     I completely reject this idea and claim.  But it is a giveaway to the nature of your beliefs and much of Christian toxicity.  “…, it will put the fear of the Lord in you.”  Why fear?  Why not love or faith or something positive?  No, most of you are all about the brutality of your God.  And looking at the record, he is pretty brutal.  I oppose such a god whoever thinks he is real. 

    Take a “communist” out to sea?  He means a Russian and not a confirmed communist.  Most Russians retained their religious beliefs, the government just shutdown the churches and their influence in government.  Of course, really this is only about the need to feel protected in a group and die in a herd rather than cut out and alone.  It takes a great deal more courage to be an atheist in the world than a sheepish believer.

    Your post is ridiculous.  The religious claims you make never happened, they are myths.  You haven’t got one shred of proof that any of it ever happened and it goes against all well understood knowledge and logic that it could have.  If the West is in the hands of people like you, then we are truly doomed, because the Muslims are smarter than this.

  • anonymous_amren

    Me too. Unless that Christian country was black, and the Muslim country was white.

  • Kblankenship7

    Atheism has been the religion of all the really effective proponents of genocide.  Stalin, Hitler, Mao, Pol Pot; to a man they were “liberated”  from the  horrible burden of Christian ethics.  Christians should know what awaits them if the atheists ever take power.  It will make the Boer genocide look mild in comparison.  But Christians have short memories in the USA, where the faith is mostly of the “feel good” evanjellyfish variety.  Anyway, the atheists already seem to run much of the USA now.  The cultural right has lost every single battle in the past 40 years.  Thus I wonder why Whiteplight is getting so exercised about all this. 

    • >> Thus I wonder why Whiteplight is getting so exercised about all this. 

      Because we’re not exterminated yet.  See Stalin, Mao and Pol Pot.

  • Why aren’t the politicians responding to the electorate?  Isn’t the UK suppose to be a democracy?  I bet its the public sector unions including BBC.  Everyone is afraid of getting kicked off the gravy train.

  • Personally, I prefer Medieval Christianity, when it put its foot down, with things like the Crusades. 
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Hehehhehhhheheheh..

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Testament_military_metaphors

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/But_to_bring_a_sword

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Just_war_theory

    • Aussie_Thinker

       A little confused as to what your getting at…

      But after having a quick skim read, I much prefer the old Just War Theory, rather than the newer one.

      One thing that interests me about Odinism (the original), is that it encourages honour and pride… important things to have, and something which politicians have none of. If someone insults you, or harms you in any way, you hit back harder so they don’t do it again… simple as that.

      • Zorro

        I encourage you to read, “Profiles in Courage” about the life of Colonel John W. Ripley, USMC on the this web site: http://www.tfp.org  .

  • ageofknowledge

    We are a long long long way from Charlemagne.

  • Xanthippe2

    There is no such thing as a hate crime against a White Christian as they are the traditional oppressors.  Get with it already! 

  • jeffaral

    Marxism stems in fact from Christianity:  Equalitarianism, supression of individual freedom and nationhood, fanatical universalism.  Due to hundreds of years of spreading the Evangelium to non-Whites Christianity has become today virtually a non-White religion.    Oswald Spengler:  Christian Theology is the grandmother of Bolshevism.  

  • quantmlp71

    According to the Book of Genesis in the Bible, everything was perfect until God allowed a serpent to successfully tempt Eve, and then Adam, into eating from the forbidden Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil.  Then everything went wrong!

    That is why I think a team of lawyers should have a lawsuit to seriously sue God in court for this unethucal act of entrapment!