‘We’ll Teach the Whites’

IOL News, December 16, 2011

AfriForum charged police officer Juda Dagane with hate speech at the Human Rights Commission on Wednesday and called for his dismissal from the service.

This, after the publication in Beeld newspaper of “blatant racist utterances Dagane had recently made on a Facebook page”, the organisation said in a statement.

It said the page had been launched in support of suspended ANC Youth League president Julius Malema.

“When the black Messiah (Nelson Mandela) dies, we’ll teach the whites. We’ll commit genocide against them: I hate whites,” Dagane posted on the Facebook page on November 19, according to the report in Beeld.

Dagane added that whites had no place in their (“our”) hearts and thoughts, AfriForum said.

“In another entry made on December 7, Dagane said he was in the employ of the SA Police Service. The entries have since been removed, and the police have given an undertaking to investigate the matter.”

AfriForum’s deputy CEO, Ernst Roets, said Dagane’s utterances were “more than just a blatant form of hate speech”.

“It is incitement to violence and even murder.”

AfriForum also appealed to the SAPS to remove Dagane from his position, and threatened to take further action against Dagane and the SAPS should his behaviour not be addressed.

“No person has the right to make such utterances. However, coming from an SAPS officer, such statements are cause for grave concern. In order to protect its reputation, the SAPS will have to take definite steps against Dagane,” Roets added.

AfriForum said it would monitor the police investigation into Dagane.

Beeld quoted national police spokesman Captain Dennis Adriao, confirming that an internal investigation had been ordered.

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  • Anonymous

    I have no doubt whatsoever that this is the goal of blacks the world over. Check out these attacks and how the police dapartment covered it up:

    http://ronbosoldier.blogspot.com/2009/11/more-black-racist-violence-against.html

  • Anonymous

    The question is why do whites even continue to live in a country where the majority is openly inciting to genocide against them?

    I can understand if poorer whites cannot escape, but what excuse does the middle class have?

    There should be some kind of effort to lift these people into western nations, just like world Jewry helped Soviet Jewry out of Soviet Russia.

    But, alas, what we need is consciousness.

  • Anonymous

    Here’s a “teacher” “teaching” a white teacher! In New York!

    http://goo.gl/3isQe

  • Peejay in Frisco

    The whites in South Africa ARE being taught. That they are hated to the utmost degree. That to stay in South Africa will result in they being tortured, raped, mutilated, and killed. So WHY are they not learning, and simply vacate the place? A lot of them have already done so, so why don’t the rest of them?If they all left, the blacks would soon urge them to come back.

  • neanderthalDNA

    Maybe that’s what it will take to wake whites worldwide. Watching their congenitally evil brethren genocided in wonderful black SA.

    And no doubt the continuing epic failure of their black run paradise vis-a-vis the old regime will fill those 70 average IQ heads with nothing but more savage, murderous, blame whitey rage.

    Yeah blacks. Kill all the whites and see how fast your ship of state sinks. Going down already!

  • Ben N Indiana

    And once Whites are gone . . . then what?

    Imagine a world in which there were no White people.

    There would be no foreign aid for Africa. African commerce would evaporate. Technology embraced by Africans would no longer be accessable.

    Destorying the White infrastructure is ‘killing the goose that lays the golden egg.’

    Rather than hate White people, black Africans should appreciate their contributions. And I suppose many, if not most Africans, do appreciate the positive impact White people have had on their culture.

  • Integration Anxiety

    What this highly esteemed police officer meant to say on his Facebook page was, I am jealous of Whites. That is what is really the underlying issue here. And don’t worry Dagane. The hatred is mutual. The only reason you can get away with hate speech is because the intestinal fortitude has been ripped out of your former S. African government, now being run by people who have an IQ of 12. I’d rather have been in a successful White run Boer country as a minority than run by a Bantu inept, corrupt illegitimate financially, morally, environmentally bankrupt government as a majority like you. So you as a cop should be jealous of Whitey. But you forgot your “place” in the world. Now your own people will starve one day like Zimbabwe.

  • Fritz

    It’s all fine and good to remind ourselves the disaster our absense would be in Africa. I’m sure the more intelligent natives consciously know this, and the majority that make up the rest know it in their gut. Unfortunately, the intelligent and not-so-intelligent share an unconsious distain for Whites that inevitably manifests itself in agression or indifference about agression against Whites once Whites become a powerless minority. It’s the same in Africa as here. In my own workplace, 35 years ago the Blacks were about 5%. We all got along very well. Then, 35 years later the Whites were at about 10%. At that point, I was talking to one of the Black women who had been there 30 years, about how racist the management was against Whites. She just smiled and said, “Well, now it’s you White people’s turn to suffer”. It really surprised me, coming out of one of the Blacks I had known for 30 years and never suspected of being particularly anti-White. In Africa they demand “majority rule”, in America they demand “equal rights”, but in both cases it’s all about getting power over Whitey and once they have it, the outcome for Whites will be the same here as it is over there.

  • Periapsis

    Whites should all flee this sinking ship, but not without giving the blacks a final parting gift as revenge for all their violence against them. They should burn their farms, destroy the infrastrcuture, poison water supplies, and wreck everything else they can get their hands on, then leave and enjoy the schadenfreude they will feel as the haeful blacks learn what hunger and humble pie are like when served with a generous portion of crow. Bon appetit! Otherwise we should help them escape from this country in the dead of night and let the whole thing collapse all around the blacks, they will be killing each other very soon over the last scraps of food.

  • Yorkshireman.

    From the UK ‘Daily Telegraph’ today Saturday 17th December…

    More than 70 passengers have been stranded at UK’s Gatwick International Airport for nearly a week because Air Zimbabwe’s only long haul aircraft was grounded because the airline couldn’t pay nearly £1m in bills. Air Zimbabwe’s 767-200, named Victoria Falls, was seized by American General Supplies when it landed from Harare at Gatwick International Airport early on Monday. That evening about 100 mostly Zimbabwean passengers checked in and then learned their flight was delayed. Some were given camp beds on which to sleep at Gatwick and next morning they learned the aircraft was seized via a US court injunction by American General Supplies for unpaid debt for spares of £966 000. “We demanded proof that the debt had been paid and saw documentation suggesting a transfer of US$1 million (£644 000) was made which is less than the American company is claiming,” one passenger said on Thursday. “Departure is now supposed to be Monday night which is disgraceful,” said a Harare resident whose wife is stuck at Gatwick. Air Zimbabwe’s London manager, David Mwenga had to flee Gatwick earlier this week as fuming Zimbabweans chased him when he was unable to provide a firm departure date. Acting Air Zimbabwe chief executive, Innocent Mavhunga, meanwhile announced the airline had now suspended daily flights to Johannesburg. “We are not flying into South Africa. We are trying to secure funding to pay our debts there,” he said. Last week, a South African airport support services company, Bid Air, forced Air Zimbabwe to ground a plane in Johannesburg as it pressed for payment of a £320,000 debt. Zimbabwe’s economy has virtually collapsed in the years following the forced seizure of white-owned farms by President Robert Mugabe. The policy led to sharp falls in prodcution, rampant inflation and food and fuel shortages.

  • Howard W. Campbell

    If you hate whitey, just wait until the Chinese arrive and lay waste to Rhodesia & South Africa. Any natural resources will be stripped and they have the manpower to enforce their will. The Bantus will be pining for the days of Hendrik Verwoerd.

  • South African

    Why middle class people do not leave? Easy. Material reasons. Middle class often means middle aged and settled in a comfortable job. Overseas you have to re-enter the job market as a middle aged individual, right at the bottom with nothing, inside a pool of unemployed people and well qualified youth. People do not have the energy to do this anymore after they put in so much to get there where they presently are.

  • Zaphod Beeblebrox

    Dear all some commentators say why don’t the whites leave, = many have, that is those that are able to source a passport of another country through close relationship or have skills that enable then to emigrate to countries that need those skills. The others cannot do this because they lack the above plus there is a complete lock down on those White people by America and the West who don’t want them = [politics]. Ask your self this would America take them, believe me America really does need White Folk, they will not, same with Canada , Australia Europe, any non European Black, brown Asian is walking into those countries in unfettered thousands = [Politics] White Folk through out the world are being betrayed, think about it!.

  • Flik

    Ben, blacks will never appreciate Westernized society. They resent us for the simple fact that they are even in Westernized societies. They don’t recognize it, but it all boils down to that. Our society is foreign to them, they are constantly reminded of just how inferior they are by even living in them. They have no dignity because they have to rely on us to survive. They never should have been exposed to our ways AT ALL. In a correct world they would still be in the African bush living their ways and practicing their voodoo religions. Our way is not and never will be their way. They aren’t built or meant for it – period. I will never understand the thinking of whites who feel that bringing them our technology and infrastructure (that they don’t even understand, much less can maintain) was or is a good idea.

  • olewhitelady

    I agree that Western countries should give political asylum to S.A. whites, but I can understand why many do not want to leave. Most who stay were born and bred there and sometimes have families who’ve been there for generations. Some have businesses at which they make their living. It’s a lot easier to move into a safer neighborhood, like many Americans do, than it is to leave one’s country.

  • Dutchman

    Just for comparison, can anyone find a few cases of 19th or early 20th Century ‘evil White racists’ calling for the complete extermination of blacks? I’ve been looking through old 19th Century texts available online and I’ve not come across anything so full of hatred as the calls for genocide against Whites.

    Integration Anxiety has it right-jealousy. Have you ever seen the rabid hatred that black girls have for White girls?

  • Charles B. Tiffany

    When Mandela passes most likely within 6 months, it will be mid winter in South Africa. Most blacks live in unheated or slightly heated shacks. They will be eager for something to warm them up. They will have necklacing parties as they immolate unfortunate whites. The Zulus will align themselves with the whites and the ensuing blood bath will make Iraq look like Boys Town Nebraska. The Zulus and whites will fight a delaying action as they all head for Durban,sort of like the Pusan Perimeter in Korea. Within another 6 months mass starvation and cannibalism will turn what is left of the populace into food and fuel. After about 5 years the Zulus and whites will come back to an empty ruined land.

    Charles B. Tiffany

    Kissimmee, Florida

  • Anonymous

    Another ANC official made a similar remark earlier:

    “When Mandela dies, we will kill you whites like flies.”

    – Mzukizi Gaba (ANC)

  • Anonymous

    2 — Anonymous at 6:50 PM on December 16:

    Mandela, who the lamestream conservatives praise, has also said when he dies he wants the Whites murdered.

    NO BLACK is our friend or ever will be.

    As for comparing bringing in the Soviet Jewry as an example to bring in the White SA, read your history.

  • Istvan

    When the genocide starts I predict that the US, Canadian, UK and most European governments will AT BEST turn a blind eye. Most will blame the whites for making the blacks murder them. None will offer any help what so ever. If Barry Sotero is reelected he and Michele and Cass Sunstein and the other racists in his government will smile with undisguised glee. In fact, in may embolden them to increase the speed of their final solution for us.

  • Laager

    @ No 6 Ben in Indiana

    “And once Whites are gone … then what?”

    Just watch the current trickle of ‘asylum seekers”, ‘students”, economic migrants and illegal immigrants heading for Europe, the USA, Canada and Australia turn into an un-stopable tsunami.

    Governments of these countries would be wise to follow the example of Japan and China now. Pull down the shutters and build up the levees.

  • Murf

    Having grown up White in a neighbourhood that turned all black, And being a student of history (White flight), it is easy to see for any with a shred of sense that whites leave when black numbers become great. A book, March of the Titans, documents this ably. You see it all over, and you can look at at ANY black nation, Africa or elsewhere, ANY black city (Detroit for example, especially imagine them without state, federal aid, or government make work affirmative action to bolster the economies), or ANY black neighbourhood. Discrimination isn’t to blame. Poverty isn’t to blame. Argue over the causes, but the reality is that the blacker a place is, the worse it is, and absent whites organising, building, inventing, subsidising, employing, etc, the situation would be one much more dire, quicker. I try to be fairly race neutral in my life. I have a lot of black friends. My daughter’s God father is black, an old army buddy of great intelligence and high morals. Individually, I see no merit in making my decisions of employment or friendship on race, but if one is White, one is stupid to live in or amongst black majority areas. You become a target, without exception. Why whites let themselves be cowed now, when ANY cop or firefighter can tell you the truth, why we as a group make the problems worse via government policies that transfer wealth and constantly expand forced integration on wider and larger scales (first city schools, then suburb schools, then extended suburb schools get forced to integrate, across county lines even, at the expense of White communities financially AND to the detriment of their schools) is beyond me. The real culprit is government, and in allowing it to get big, it became powerful, intrusive, and a weapon used against those who fund it for ideological purposes hostile to the interests of the majority. America’s cities were once major centres of production, but increasingly are minority populated financial sinkholes draining the wealth of the wider region, dominating politics by sheer population and racial voting blocks, filled with huge dependent populations, nothing more than immense centres of expense. Look at Detroit. It costs huge sums to school the population, but the returns on that spending are negative. It costs huge sums to police, and more to incarcerate the criminal population. The remaining population mainly seems to Derive its income from government transfer payments and or government employment, with fewer and fewer exceptions year by year. The city’s costs made taxes high, it’s poorly educated, largely shiftless population made poor workers, and in combination with foreign competition not similarly burdened, it’s factories closed. Detroit, St. Louis, NYC, Chicago, LA, Milwaukee, etc. ALL have become cities in ruin to greater or lesser extent, whereas in a different era, with different demographics, they were centres of growth, commerce, industry, economy, administration, and innovation. Now they are burdens, alive because they vote themselves the wealth of their states and have political parasites who pander to their populations. As bad as huge sectors of them are, they would collapse quickly and almost utterly if the massive inflows of state and federal monies stopped, as it should. The reality is, if you want to live in a pace of relatively low taxation, you need to move to a place with no demographic tax burden. The whiter it is, the better it generally will be. The blacker, or secondarily, the more Hispanic, the worse it is, and the worse the future is. With America set to have whites in an actual minority circa 2040 or so, I fear for the future, because every city that follows this trend becomes a he’ll hole to some degree. When this is the nation…..?

  • Anonymous

    Don’t worry, soon the blacks will also hate the Chinese. They hate anyone that they cannot compete against on their own. They laugh at the whites for giving them eternal handouts. Nothing can ever replace outright eternal reparations for slavery which means forever free money and preferential treatment.

  • South African

    And then as a middle aged white you have a problem of a practical nature. Your CV. What do you write in your CV? What is a credible reason for emigrating? What do you tell your new boss, once a peacenik hippie youngster (now a member of the Labor party, if you move to the UK), in an interview why you left. Are you perhaps a little bit racist, a little bit unhappy about the new democracy and peace? Because today everything is better. At least that is what they read in the media.

    For it must be a big unhappiness to leave a safe job, luxury house with pool, senior appointment, 4×4 car – that sounds quite weird and fishy and suspicious. So how do explain your big unhappiness to your new boss. Because he is well-trained in interview skills and you won’t get away with it.

    How do you explain that two year gap in your CV when you did two years national service for the ‘killer nazi apartheid army, the SADF who maintained Apartheid and murdered thousands of blacks’.

  • Anonymous

    South African #12: Being settled into a Middle Class job, and being comfortable, are poor reasons to stay in a country that is being run by Sociopathic Communist murderers.

    Middle Class White South Africans are kidding themselves if they think that they can weather the coming storms. No, they better make quick preparations for a departure of that once great Nation to another, be it Chile, Australia, New Zealand, or maybe a future Flanders, if Belgium should break apart.

  • Anonymous

    #22 South African : You tell your CV what he wants to hear. That South Africa is horribly racist against blacks and you no longer wish be immersed in that or raise a family or whatever in that environment. That’s not the truth, but that the CV will accept. No other culture in the world flogs itself for lying the way whites do. You have to lie to survive in an environment that is hostile to you and treats you like a second class citizen. Get over it. He’s your CV, not your priest. You aren’t confessing to him. You are surviving.

  • Anonymous

    South African #22: Stop explaining yourselves, and start your own Businesses. To file a Certificate of Incorporation is not a difficult task at all, or you can have your Attorney, or Tax Accountant, do it for you.

    You have a superior education, and skills that would be beneficial to others that would seek your goods and services.

    Apart from making quality merchandise, you have a strong work ethic, and would add a positive infusion of good work for a fair price to the social mix of any country that you would call home.

    Many South Africans are Farmers. Farmers, as you know, are some of the most important workers that any country has. ANC South Africa’s loss, will be your new country’s gain.

    The Immigrants who came from Europe, to America in the late 19th Century, and early 20th Century, were mostly penniless, had no command of English at all, nor did many have trade skills, but they were all ready to learn the new language, and work hard in their new country, with a desire to be good Citizens.

    South African Whites have a leg up on these old European immigrants, since English is spoken in South Africa, and most Boers know it, they can more easily assimilate into another culture which is also English speaking.

  • Anonymous

    You all act as if the only way that they are going to pay for attacks on us and our only consolation is that they will be sorry once we are gone! The lament of the helpless child! Get some intestinal fortitude people! The healthy approach is: They are causing this and when we finally overcome the resistance of our own misguided and suicidal kin, we will prevail. That is our consolation and that will be our revenge!

    Instead of consoling yourself with “they will be sorry when we are gone!” you should be preparing. If your doctor says that you are healthy enough:

    *learn firearms skills or keep them honed

    *learn hand to hand combat empty hand, stick, knife, and other fighting skills (seek out an efficient combat effective no-nonsense system)(learn the most practical and fastest skills to learn, these are the best anyway:vertical fist punch, palm heel strike, groin kicks, etc. open hands are better than fists, your hands are critically important for your survival)

    *if you can afford them get 2 Thai training pads, 2 focus mitts, & some bag gloves train with a partner whenever possible

    *search online for info on making your own home makiwara bag

    *get in good shape but be realistic about your age and other factors, learn to flow from technique to technique

    *walk at least 3 times per week,get fit enough to walk several miles if need be

    *lift weights 3 times per week in a reasonable and efficient manner (you do not have to do a huge amount to get good results, you need rest days and make sure to wait one hour after meals)

    *you can double your strength in the first 6 weeks of weight training (that is why all of the commercial products and programs offer you a money-back 6 week program, it has been proven in experiments that any good, effective weight training program will double your strength in 6 weeks! After that, you will probably plateau to some degree but that is a good level of strength)

    *learn primitive survival skills, you WILL need them, I promise!

    *learn to make and use atlatls and darts

    *go through the Traditional Bowyer’s Bible and learn how to make quick survival bows and arrows (bundle bow, survival takedown bow, assymetric bow, survival recurve)

    *learn to make primitive spears and other tools & weapons

    *learn desert, mountain, and arctic survival skills

    *if age, health, and fitness permit, work up to running up and down your stairs 10 to 20 times, 3 times per week

    *do some sensible stretching exercises every day

    *you might want to learn about the medicinal plants of your region

    Quit talking about failure. Prepare to win!

  • Ferd

    I think the whites should have done an India/Pakistan split rather than simply turning the government over to the blacks. They could have kept the Cape area and let the rest go. If I were white in South Africa, I would have left for Perth already. I know a Jewish South African living in Chicago and he said that about 70% of his Jewish friends have left for the US, UK, Australia, and Israel since the turnover.

  • Anonymous

    If Middle Easterners can go to Latin America and then enter the US through Mexico posing as Latinos, then white South Africans (wSAs) can do the same (or via Canada) posing as Europeans/Canadians/Americans or just as South Africans.

    If Mexicans without high school educations can figure out how to accomplish this, wSAs can. If the Mexican government can produce pamphlets instructing Mexicans how to enter the US illegally, sympathetic Americans can use the internet to give wSAs similar advice.

    If illegal Latinos hide in states w/cities w/large Latino populations, wSAs can hide in states w/cities w/large Dutch/German populations (e.g., Pennsylvania, Minnesota, Wisconsin). Northern Idaho might have a lot of sympathetic whites too.

    Note well: while the Obama administration (and Bush), is probably not against the former, they very likely would be against the latter. Thus, the Americans should avoid taking the steps that would make them “conspirators” in breaking US immigration laws, and limit their actual direct “contacts” with wSAs.

    Perhaps a website in Afrikaans would post “How to…” based on how Mexicans do it. The operators of this would research how the Mexicans do it (see that Mexican gov’t pamphlet; do online research, esp of Spanish language websites, etc). This could be a US based website.

    Then another website, not run by the first or associated with it in any way, could be used by wSAs in SA to organize wSA emigration. They’d start w/a pilot project(s). They would then post on their website “lessons learned”, which the first website would then incorporate. There should not be any actual “contact” between the US and SA websites, just an *informal* exchanging of information. Best to consult a lawyer before taking any steps.

    Plus, wSAs should also look into applying for asylum in Europe, Canada or Mexico. Better to be poor in one of those countries than dead in SA….

  • Anonymous

    24-South African

    Try the Baltics. They are losing population & would understand the gap in your CV.

  • Anonymous

    to 24 — South African:

    For one thing, I don’t suggest emigrating to the UK. You’re right. You’re liberal, hippie boss will harrass you to death about apartheid. You will never make it. Furthermore, the UK is turning into South Africa. Interracial crime has exploded there, as well as draconian affirmative action programs, and other anti-white policies. I’m sure you know that though. The US has the same problems, and we have a black president who hates whites. Unlike the UK, you will find more race realism in the US, I believe. Also, we have more rights to protect ourselves (but that is being taken from us).

    Another poster made a good suggestion. Open your own business in a safe country. I have done that, and I make much more money than I would if I had worked for someone. I keep it small and I have freedom of movement. Forget about the corporate ladder. It is no longer relevant. And definitey forget about the UK.

  • Julie

    #9

    I have been thinking of ways that Whites could escape SA. It is becoming very common now for people to buy homes in foreign countries. I do not know how the visa situation would work but ther are many people who have part time homes in other countries. I was wondering if SA White refugees could quietly buy homes in friendly countries and vacation there part of the year. Should bad come to worse, they could take their families and stay in their homes outside of South Africa.

    Does anyone know what the immigration laws say about this? If a person buys a home in a foreign country can they stay in that country for the rest of their lives as foreign nationals?

    Argentina might be a good country since it has lots of farm land and is almost totally White.

  • South African

    Thanks for the kind advice. I am just naming some problem I heard from various people, and some I experienced myself many years ago on an emigration attempt. Meanwhile I have become older and wiser and have learned some tricks of the trade how to handle difficult interview questions and how to tweak a CV so that it still comes across as credible.

  • John Engelman

    Telling the truth about a racial group should not be punished as hate speech, although it sometimes is. Calling for genocide against a racial group is hate speech and should be punished.

    By “genocide” I mean exterminating a race. Some American Renaissance posters use “white genocide” to describe an occasion of when a more deserving Oriental is given a university position or job rather than a less deserving white. That is not genocide. It is merit promotion.

  • Laager

    @ 29 Ferd

    “I think the whites should have done an India/Pakistan split rather than simply turning the government over to the blacks. They could have kept the Cape area and let the rest go.”

    Allow me to offer you a brief history on this point.

    The Dutch were quite content minding their own business down in the Cape.

    The British attacked them in 1795 and 1806 and forcibly took control of the outpost.

    They set about turning it into a British Colony – English the only official language, currency and place name changes.

    In short the Dutch were oppressed and started trekking east to escape the British.

    In due course they encountered their first black tribe – the Xhosa (Mandela) – at the Fish River (Port Elizabeth)

    The slave trade was abolished, the British brought in immigrants to stabilise the eastern frontier (1820), slaves were emancipated (1837) thus placing previous servants on an equal footing with their employers.

    The Dutch who now referred to themselves as (Trek) Boere then trekked north to find a British free territory. They turned east and descended the mountains in Natal. Along the way they fought a defensive action against the Matabele (Vegkop) and their advance parties in Natal were massacred by the Zulus.

    The fought a reprisal action against the Zulus (Blood River 16/12/38) and established their republic of Natalia in Pietermaritzburg.

    The British moved in and annexed Port Natal (Durban) and a stand-off ensued (Congella). Outnumbered and outgunned the Boere packed up and trekked back over the mountains into the highveld and established their republics of Orange Free State and Transvaal. The British claimed Natal for themselves.

    Unfortunately the Boere settled on the world’s biggest deposits of diamonds (OFS) and gold (Tvl)

    The British then went to war against the Boere 3 times (1881, 1895 Jameson Raid, 1899) to gain control of these assets, and defeated the Boere.

    In the meantime the British had been waging war against the Xhosa, Tswana (Bechuanaland) and Zulu and took control of their territories.

    All the British conquests were consolidated into the construct of the Union of South Africa in 1910, thus creating the volatile ethnic mix which is imploding today.

    To answer your point directly:

    In 1948 the Afrikaners (i.e. Dutch, Boere) gained political power and set about implementing their original intentions when they left the Cape in 1834.

    They had no desire to conquer and rule other territories and their peoples.

    This was the motivation behind the Homelands Policy.

    Since the arrival of the white man the territories occupied by black people (9 tribes) had been respected in the form of Native Reserves (= USA & Canadian Indian Reservations), later called Bantustans and then Homelands.

    The intent was to build them up to be self sufficient independent territories. To this end 56% of the nations tax revenue was being spent on black infrastructural development. During their wars of conquest the British had already set the precedent by creating and recognising the territories of Bechuanaland (remainder now Botswana), Swaziland and Basutoland (Lesotho). The new black South African states – Transkei, Ciskei, Venda, Kwa-Zulu, Lebowa, Qwa-Qwa, Bophuthatswana, Gazankulu, KwaNdebele, KaNgwane – (Wikipedia) would have been on a par with these 3 black African states – recognised by the rest of the world.

    The western first world governments refused to recognise this policy and these new African states. They imposed sanctions on South Africa to coerce the Govt into ending this process as well as creating majority rule government and a fully racially integrated society.

    During President PW Botha’s term he floated the idea of eventually creating “a constellation of states” – i.e. a federation similar to the USA. This would have included these 9 Black African new states with White South Africa, plus Lesotho, Swaziland, Botswana, Namibia and possibly Mozambique and Rhodesia (Zimbabwe)

    However the rest of the world intervened via the United Nations and supported the liberation movements / freedom fighters and what you see today has come to pass.

    In the process the west has lost valuable allies in Rhodesia and South Africa – white populations that were committed to western capitalist, democratic, christian values.

    In its place they created Marxist states riddled with incompetence and corruption and have permitted the Chinese to move in to secure the natural resources for the development of their economy.

    A similar pattern of western suicide is now unfolding with the uncontrolled immigration policies of Scandinavia, Europe, the USA and Canada.

    So if the west is really concerned about the plight of white South Africans they should step up to the plate and offer them sanctuary. In the process they will be gaining well educated people with good occupational skills and a solid protestant work ethic.

    Plan B would be to have a conference with the ANC and tell them to start behaving themselves or else the west will step in, support the white minority, and re-install them into the administration.

    After all, the west has already set the precedent with Israel.

    Why can’t they repeat the same process again in South Africa?

  • Detroit WASP

    Murf 22

    All true.

    I watched many of my Detroit neighborhoods go from white to black and from good to bad.

    I have often wondered what Detroit would be like if all the blacks just suddenly got up and left and went back to their homeland.

    Detroit would become an economic boom-town overnight. Whites would pour back into the city and 95% of the crime would be gone.

    If only…

  • Ex-Durbanite

    White and black living together…? You must be´joking. Everey day any black person sees a white person, he’s thinking about his own intellectual shortcomings.

  • Anonymous

    “White and black living together…? You must be´joking. Everey day any black person sees a white person, he’s thinking about his own intellectual shortcomings.”

    US President Lincoln had a view on this:

    Address on Colonization to a Deputation of Negroes in Washington, D.C. on August 14, 1862 . “You and we are different races. We have between us a broader difference than exists between almost any other two races. Whether it is right or wrong I need not discuss, but this physical difference is a great disadvantage to us both, as I think your race suffer very greatly, many of them living among us, while ours suffer from your presence. In a word we suffer on each side. If this is admitted, it affords a reason at least why we should be separated.”

  • Anonymous

    “Argentina might be a good country since it has lots of farm land and is almost totally White.”

    It really isn’t. Argentina is a dangerous third world country filled with violent street crime, corruption, high taxes, rampant inflation, and organized crime. I’ve lived and worked there. I could write a book. It is a beautiful place, but it’s not safe nor business friendly.

  • Anonymous

    It might make sense for Whites to leave the rainbow nation of SA if there were some country worth running to. But what is the point of moving to Europe or North America when they are dominated by the same political forces which opposed apartheid? And which are becoming increasingly dominated by third world forces?

    Better to make a stand in one’s own neighborhood.

    Let me also note that because of globalization, it ought to be possible for White peoples around the world to network together for mutual self-defense.

    In Africa they demand “majority rule”, in America they demand “equal rights”, but in both cases it’s all about getting power over Whitey and once they have it, the outcome for Whites will be the same here as it is over there.

    True.

    Blacks use the rhetoric of equality to tear down White intellectual defenses. But then once they have gained any power, use it to dominate their societies. Then again, that is what politics has been mostly about for all of history. These real thing is, why have White people thrown in the towel in recent decades?

    They are causing this and when we finally overcome the resistance of our own misguided and suicidal kin, we will prevail.

    Amen!

  • Anonymous

    37 — Detroit WASP wrote at 9:11 AM on December 18:

    “Murf 22

    All true.

    I watched many of my Detroit neighborhoods go from white to black and from good to bad.

    I have often wondered what Detroit would be like if all the blacks just suddenly got up and left and went back to their homeland.

    Detroit would become an economic boom-town overnight. Whites would pour back into the city and 95% of the crime would be gone.”

    There is no doubt that the above would be the case. The biggest danger to the survival of this United States is the presence of Blacks. Without them this would be as close to an ideal place as possible.

    We could easily deal with the sociopaths among our own White population. We could imprison/ execute our most violent criminals. All our crime statistics would show a precipitous drop. Our cities would have a Renaissance and our society would be the not totally perfect but much more livable than it’s been for over a century.

  • South African

    #33 Julie:

    Buying homes in another country.

    Consider the exchange rates (excl. conversion fees) of the South African Rand on this mainstream media news website:

    http://www.news24.com/

    18/12/2011 – South African Rand to the…

    Dollar : 8.40

    Pound : 13.06

    Euro : 10.96

    South Africa is a mid-level income country.

  • Tom S.

    #8 – She just smiled and said, “Well, now it’s you White people’s turn to suffer”. It really surprised me, coming out of one of the Blacks I had known for 30 years and never suspected of being particularly anti-White.

    I’ve had the same experience – blacks I thought were “different” evenually letting their guard down and showing their “true colors”. These are the dangerous ones, the ones that smile and “blend in” and lay and wait, all while hating you, for the right moment to stab you ( sometimes literately ) in the back. I do have to thank them though for helping me become the race realist that I am today. At least with the ghetto blacks, you KNOW they don’t like you by their dress and demeanor so you know to keep your guard up around them.

    #30 – If illegal Latinos hide in states w/cities w/large Latino populations, wSAs can hide in states w/cities w/large Dutch/German populations (e.g., Pennsylvania, Minnesota, Wisconsin). Northern Idaho might have a lot of sympathetic whites too.

    I’ve thought that also. Why can’t they come over here as “tourists” and then never leave, just blend in. Also Mexicans are experts at producing the “proper papers” why couldn’t the S.A.’s do the same?

    #15 – Most who stay were born and bred there and sometimes have families who’ve been there for generations. Some have businesses at which they make their living.

    I understand all that but – they are going to be KILLED if they stay! If they kill them, wouldn’t that be losing the business? If they let them live, aren’t the blacks just going to walk in one day and “take” the business from them? I don’t care how long my family had lived there, I’d be looking at “plan B”.

  • Anonymous

    Apparently this is a worldwide conflict. With regard to South African whites, they need to be prepared and ready to defend themselves. I would imagine that the former South African SAS men who are still in the country would be willing to train their fellow whites in self-defense, firearms handling, security, and all other methods of self-defense against criminals. Better late than never.

  • white is right, black is whack

    Blacks are the most hateful race on the planet. I think they hate themselves more than anything. Many black women are angry and even meaner than black men. Whites need to get out of there and come back to Europe and America and take up arms with whites who are fighting another Islamic invasion and nonwhites who want us dead and destroyed. We don’t need to feel guilt or shame or try to understand why they want us dead anymore than we need to understand why a lion staring us down wants us dead. The fact is they do and you need to get away and defend yourselves.

  • USMC Gunny

    Once they kill or exile all the White folk, who is going to make things work in South Africa? Boy that sure worked out great for Rhodesia, oops, silly me, I meant Zimbabwe. Rampant AIDS, average life expectancy of 37, crushing poverty and starvation (damn, wish we hadn’t run off all those White farmers), Inflaton so bad they started printing 100,000 dollar bills a couple years ago. Hey, but they got their “liberation” from the white devils.

  • Anonymous

    to #28, the poster who offered suggestions for survial skills, I have something to add. If we want to concentrate on white survival, I suggest that we pour our wine, beer and whiskey down the toilet. Stop smoking. (these chemicals slow you down and make you die young, something our enemies want. ) Cancel your cable TV. Forbid your children to watch mainstream media. Homeschool your children. Teach your children about values, race realism, and survival.

    The liberals want to keep whites drunk and high, drooling in front of the TV. They also use the media to effecitively brainwash your children. They use these tools to prevent us from becoming aware and uniting against a common enemy.

    Whenever you are in a bar full of white males, who are guzzling beer, smoking, watching the game, etc, strike up a conversation. Drink water and tell them to forget about the game a moment. Start discussing articles you read on Amren, about interracial crime and white dispossession. Point out one of the black athletes on the TV who has a rape record..ease it into the conversation. Invite your former drinking buddies to the shooting range or martial arts studio (sober of course!).

    There are so many ways we can be proactive in our every day routines.

  • Anonymous

    47 — USMC Gunny wrote at 9:37 AM on December 19:

    “Once they kill or exile all the White folk, who is going to make things work in South Africa? Boy that sure worked out great for Rhodesia, oops, silly me, I meant Zimbabwe. Rampant AIDS, average life expectancy of 37, crushing poverty and starvation (damn, wish we hadn’t run off all those White farmers), Inflaton so bad they started printing 100,000 dollar bills a couple years ago. Hey, but they got their “liberation” from the white devils.”

    Once they kill all the White folk= BAD

    Once they all kill each other = VERY GOOD- ZEHR GUT- MOLTO BUONO

    MUY BIEN- MUITO BEM- TRES BIEN- DOBRI- TOV-

  • john

    I’m not so sure the whites are in truly mortal peril in SA. Were they to arms themselves and form militia groups my guess is that the blacks would give them a wide berth. A few of you out there may remember the Congo uprisings, during which Jean Schramm’s single understrength white mercenary company routed the entire black Congolese army time and again. The mere appearance of the mercs, or rumor of their approach, set the blacks to flight.

    I’d imagine that the same scenario could play out again as it did forty-five years ago in the Congo, or 140 years ago when a few British regulars slaughtered thousands of Zulus against minimal losses.

  • South African

    “Apparently this is a worldwide conflict”.

    It is not apparent. It is a reality.

    “With regard to South African whites, they need to be prepared and ready to defend themselves’.

    Hundreds, if not thousands, have handed in their firearms with the new complicated gun laws promulgated in 2000.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_politics_in_South_Africa

    “I would imagine that the former South African SAS men who are still in the country would be willing to train their fellow whites in self-defense, firearms handling, security, and all other methods of self-defense against criminals”.

    I do not have statistics at hand, but I know the following from experience. After 1994 the South African Defense Force was integrated with the former terrorist (freedom fighters) soldiers. Many SADF soldiers then resigned into the private sector, some like Eeben Barlow started a private mercenary company, others joined the US army as private security contractors, others went into various civilian occupations (some have unfortunately been involved in criminal activities, if some sources are to be believed). They are all over the world today. They have to be very careful inside South Africa how they act, for their capabilities are know and are a potential threat to the government.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Private_security_industry_in_South_Africa

    One also has to remember that over thirty years have passed since the Bush War, and just like the American Vietnam veterans they are getting older and thus the rank of the senior leaders (both officers and NCO’s) of the old SADF, where the real know-how was, is shrinking. Age is a reality.

    The big question is – what is the defense will of the whites in South Africa? The proof lies in the eating of the pudding when things really get hot in the kitchen. We are not yet there. And a younger indoctrinated ‘de-nationalismed’ materialistic generation with no military conscription background is replacing us older generation.

  • Sheila

    #29 Ferd – how interesting that your Jewish South African friend claims 70% of SA Jews have left – given that the Jews in South Africa were among the most vocal in attacking the White government. Same old, same old – they cried copious tears about the poor blacks, and as soon as they ensured the White Christians were dispossessed, they left the mess they created behind. Some will cite Ilana Mercer’s “Into the Cannibal’s Pot.” Her father was among the cadre of Jewish journalists screeching for an end to apartheid.

  • Mr.White

    34 — South African wrote at 2:22 AM on December 18:

    Thanks for the kind advice. I am just naming some problem I heard from various people, and some I experienced myself many years ago on an emigration attempt. Meanwhile I have become older and wiser and have learned some tricks of the trade how to handle difficult interview questions and how to tweak a CV so that it still comes across as credible.

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    SA… I’m sick and tired of asking for permission to save fellow Whites, while this same government is falling all over themselves to aid and abet millions of illegal invaders from mexico, to the detriment of White America!

    Whites need to start acting more like the illegal invading mexicans . Screw asking for permission! All you need to do is get here and never leave, just like every other illegal invader!

    You can get a fake social security number, just like the millions of invading mexicans do, which in turn will allow you to get a drivers license.

    Don’t worry, nobody checks. Even if they do, nothing will happen to you because it’s virtually a crime now in this country to question anyone about their social security number; thanks to the illegal invading mexicans and the numerous “advocacy” groups representing their “interests!”

    Our federal government has been neutered by hispanic advocacy groups and consequently, refuse to implement E-Verify federally. Very few employers check on the state level. You have nothing to worry about!

    If you can get here, you can stay at my house until you can get on your feet. I cannot think of a more worthy cause than to help a fellow White who’s life may very well be in danger.

    What’s White is right, especially when we have 20 + million illegal invading mestizos, marching down our streets, demanding rights and privileges for which they are not entitled, all while waiving their beloved rag of mexico! Nobody is asking them to leave. Most certainly not our government!

    Enough is enough!

  • South African

    Mr. White, thank you very much for your offer, but my plans are all in order. I am moving out next year.

    A merry Christmas and happy new year to Amren and all its readers.