NYPD Statistics Show One Student a Day Is Arrested in Public Schools, and 93% Are Black or Hispanic

Ben Chapman and Tracy Connor, NY Daily News, November 28, 2011

Cops arrest an average of one student a day in city schools–nearly always a black or Hispanic boy, newly released data shows.

The New York Civil Liberties Union said the statistics are “troubling” and confirm its suspicions about “over-policing.”

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The numbers, released to comply with a new city law, only cover July 1 to Sept. 30–two-thirds of which was summer school.

Cops arrested 63 students–about one a day in 50 days of classes–and issued 182 summons to students–three a day for offenses ranging from robbery to riding a bike on the sidewalk.

Of the arrests, 68% of the students were black and 25% were Latino.

The civil liberties group noted that blacks make up about 29% of the school system’s 1.1 million students and an estimated 37% of summer school students.

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  • Ben N Indiana

    This confirms my suspicion that the NYCLU/ACLU don’t care about the safety of White people; nor to they care about quality education.

    Why can White people not simply accept the fact that blacks and Hispanics are genetically predisposed to violence?

  • Anonymous

    “Over-policing”?? How about “under-learning,” you fools?

  • Anonymous

    So, people of color rob, murder, extort from and intimidate whites in what is nearly an open racial campaign and the only response is that there is ‘over-policing’, and the only problem worth mentioning is that there are too many people of color arrested, facing detention or being expelled.

  • Question Diversity

    In one sense, I agree with the NYCLU. The NYPD is being complicit, because they’re *only* arresting one student a day. In reality, they should probably be arresting five a day. And it should be way higher than 93% black and Hispanic. Probably the scant few non-black non-Hispanic students arrested were arrested on ticky tack offenses to try to even out the stats.

  • Dutchman

    “The New York Civil Liberties Union said the statistics are “troubling” and confirm its suspicions about “over-policing.”

    The White Civil Liberties League said the statistics are troubling and confirm the data showing that blacks and Hispanics are more prone to crimninality.

  • Anonymous

    I have worked for many years with mostly minority students. While I do not believe in the “Resource” Officer programs I can tell you with absolute certainty that minority students get away with murder before they are ever disciplined and they are not suspended or expelled when they should be because the administratiors do not want to lose the per pupil funding (especially all of the extra money for minority programs). They let problems escalete until an arrest is necessary. If any predjudice or bias is shown it is IN FAVOR OF MINORITY STUDENTS!

  • Anonymous

    It is a simple cause and effect relationship. The minority students cause most of the problems and they get away with murder before they are ever arrested and I have seen it with my own eyes, thousands of times. These professional advocates are trying to justify their own unjustifiable existence as advocates for the poor downtrodden pathetic helpless people who need these great saviors to come to their rescue!

  • john

    Is this one kid arrested per day in the whole NY school system or one per school per day. If the former it would appear that the NYPD is sleeping on the job.

  • sbuffalonative

    “…offenses ranging from robbery to riding a bike on the sidewalk.”

    How many of these offenses involved riding a bike on the side walk and how many involved robbery?

    MAYBE they shouldn’t be arresting kids for riding on the side walk (if they are being arrested for such an infraction) but what about other serious crimes? Are they to be dismissed and ignored putting other children and teachers in danger?

    More liberal, ‘progressive’ foolishness.

  • sbuffalonative

    When are whites going to stand up for themselves? I am growing increasingly restive at the mongrel takeover of this country. Objective reality is denied constantly. Black and Hispanic children are arrested because they are more prone to criminality and violence. This is testament to the radical differences between the races. However, in the bizarro world of America contemporary society objective reality is to be blamed on whites and must be denied. Why are there not more voices condemning this vicious nonsense? As for white men, the majority have been neutered and feminized. Where are the courageous white men in this country?

  • jjj

    Could someone who lives on the east coast tell me what Carribean Latinos (Puerto Ricans and Dominicans) are like compared to blacks? Are they as violent and rowdy? It seems that at least in New York City, they get suspended at a much lower rate. I was under the impression that the PRs and Dominicans were equally bad. If Latinos are 43 percent of NYC school students and 25 percent of suspensions, then they are actually somewhat underrepresented. Much less so than blacks.

    The PRs and Dominicans have only slightly higher test scores and comparable socioeconomic achivement, but it appears they are quite a bit more docile than blacks. Why is that? Closer la familia family culture? Laid back easy going Latino nature? My impression has always been that Latinos, of all races, are not angry people and by culture are more willing to accept life as it is.

    If anybody here has lived among the PRs and Dominicans, any insights into life with them would be appreciated. Thanks.

  • Anonymous

    I actually TAUGHT inner city black kids for several years, and yes, in NYC.

    All those liberals, who have never done the same, subscribe to theories of ‘disproportion.’ In other words, if one racial group is %40 of the population, then they had better not be arrested more than 40% of the time, because in their minds, everyone is the same and has the same outcomes and there are no differences in culture or race when it comes to such things as crime or educational attainment.

    So if most black kids are way behind in school, while other racial groups are further ahead, it’s because of ‘institutional’ racism. Surely black culture cannot possibly be at fault! Oh the head in the sand people, those liberals. The NYT article about the huge numbers of Mexicans who drop out, well, they were trying real hard to pin it on racism, but they couldn’t even make a tenuous connection.

    In my real-life EXPERIENCE, nearly ALL urban black high school students are lit fuses, ready to explode in violence, profanity, shouting and what not at a moment’s notice. I HAVE EXPERIENCE seeing this DAILY.

    Some days, the black kids in my classes were so out-of-control, the latino kids would just sit there and stare in wonder. Some shook their heads in disbelief, or spoke in Spanish to each other (which I understand) about how nuts the black kids seemed to be.

    Most of the latino kids were nice, though dim, but about 25% of them were trying real hard to emulate the gangsta’ rap lifestyle. About 10% were hard core gang members.

    Together – as the article said- blacks and latinos make up 70% or more of the school system in NYC. So 80% or so arrests is not some glaring statistical oddity. Think! The other 30% of the students are whites, asians and assorted others. Do any of those groups have a systematic history of violence in school?

  • Dave

    What a shock. When I was in sixth-grade, in the early 90’s, one of the few Black students in middle-school stabbed the principle with a butterfly knife in the back (he was initially sent to the office for giving other students high-fives while holding a tack).

    A few years ago, my at my cousin’s high school (in the same district), one of the few Black students in the school from a local housing project was charged w/ attempted murder after pouring shoe polish into one of his teacher’s cups of coffee.

    Those are the only two cases of attempted murder I’m aware of in my school district over the past twenty-years. Given the district is less than 2% Black, the only reasonable conclusion is that racial profiling is the culprit.

  • Anonymous

    If the students were doing things that would get you arrested, then they deserve to be arrested. Arresting those who need to be arrested (because they did something to get arrested in the first place) is NOT over-policing. Neither are cops randomly arresting every black or Hispanic they can get their hands on; it’s just that a lot of blacks and Hispanics do things that get themselves arrested.

  • Anonymous

    11 — jjj wrote at 8:58 PM on November 29:

    If anybody here has lived among the PRs and Dominicans, any insights into life with them would be appreciated. Thanks.

    They are not as bad as full blacks. Not as good as whites. Probably because they are a mixed breed. Dominicans are worse than Puerto Ricans. Dominicans are blacker than Puerto Ricans. Some Puerto Ricans are actually white and, if not for their mixed-race cousins, would fit in with other whites pretty well. My experience over the last 35 years.

  • Anonymous

    To poster 11, Dominicans are mostly very low IQ, but only about 10%, in my experience, are serious violence-prone. They are a very rough and tumble people otherwise. They get all ghetto for the simplest things. (Head rolling, stiff neck, fists clenched, etc), though they don’t physically fight too much.

    Some Dominicans are quite nice though, and there are light-skinned ones as white as you and me, though most trend darker.

    Puerto Ricans are an interesting bunch. EVERY last one I have met, adult or child, has horrible English, even if they were born in NYC. Frequent grammar mistakes, limited vocab. Most are nice, that I’ve met, but they also tend to be ready to squabble at a moment’s notice. Other latinos hate them with a passion. PR’s think they’re the cats meow among latinos because they have automatic citizenship.

  • angry mike

    I graduated in 1983,I never once witnessed an arrest .there was only one black and he swore he was a puerto rican so that must be the reason.

  • tyler

    Nice, but dim, is a good summary of Latinos. With the exception of the gang members, not all that violent.

  • elitist

    Until recently, when the MASS PSYCHOSIS of race denial took over, it was universally regarded as self-evident (that is to say, by people on the right, the left, socialists, antislavery activists, philanthropists devoting their life to black welfare, etc., etc., etc.) that blacks had a VERY different psychology from whites – less intelligent, more impulsive, more violent.

    The fact that they are different is not in itself a problem.

    The problem is the denial of reality which leads to insane policies, and to the insane positions of insane organizations like of the ACLU.

    Most whites would know have no difficulty designing a policy for a specific WHITE ethnicity that was prone to lower intelligence, high testosterone, noisy, obnoxious bragging, and violent impulsive behavior.

    They would unhesitatingly recommend limited schooling with high levels of discipline and structure, early transition to work, full employment (idle hands, etc.), plenty of policing, swift and perhaps corporal punishment for all offenders, clear, simple, inflexible rules, a readily understandable system of rewards and punishments.

    Confronted with black psychology, logic breaks down into a feverish, quivering, hysterical mass of political correctness (the search for the black Einstein, handwringing over what black suffered a century ago, while in the present tense, they rampage through our cities, killing whites, etc.)

    These liars at the ACLU know full well that in an exclusively white section of New York which restricted black and Hispanic access – in other words: in an APARTHEID version of New York City – crime would be approximately 5% of the overall average for New York City.

  • Alexandra

    jjj–I have an uncle-by-marriage who’s Puerto Rican. He’s drunk pretty much 24/7 and I heard he REALLY hit the bottle after my aunt died. We’re suprised he hasn’t died from cirrhosis of the liver yet. And I’ve heard him go off on tirades when he’s drunk.

    He can be pretty decent when sober. Still, he strikes me as not being the brightest bulb in the chandelier.

    I have to say that I haven’t heard of him being convicted of any crimes, though.

  • white is right, black is whack

    Maybe they need to quit committing so many crimes? There’s an idea!

  • margaret

    “They would unhesitatingly recommend limited schooling with high levels of discipline and structure, early transition to work, full employment (idle hands, etc.), plenty of policing, swift and perhaps corporal punishment for all offenders, clear, simple, inflexible rules, a readily understandable system of rewards and punishments.”

    This post may not get past the monitor. ADL SPLC spies will charge us with hate crime. But I do believe that for almost 250 years American blacks lived under that kind of system and their crime rate was low and they earned decent livings without being on welfare.

    They did commit some crimes though. One of the reasons John Wilkes Booth was a fervent pro confederacy pro slavery activist is that when he was 7 years old the Father of his best friend was tortured and murdered by blacks. As a young trader going up and down the Mississippi Missouri by raft Abraham Lincoln and his partner, just the 2 of them had to fight off a murderous attack by blacks.

  • Bon, From the Land of Babble

    students get away with murder before they are ever disciplined

    True story:

    I walked to my school’s gate on Monday only to witness multiple cops arresting a small, scrawny hispanic student. They had him cuffed and up against the car, frisked him, tossed him in the police cruiser (too bad there wasn’t a K9 in the back) and drove off

    This was right in front of the school.

    I later found out later that the kid was caught with a BB gun that he had “painted” to look like like an assault weapons (is that possible??). The cops, taking no chances, and told that there was a “man with gun” in front of the campus arrived with guns drawn. Kid spent a night in jail, I was told, and will be back in class tomorrow. Entire incident swept under the run.

    they are not suspended or expelled when they should be because the administratiors do not want to lose the per pupil funding.

    Oh so true!

    They also don’t want to have to answer to the activist racial bean counters, not the least of which is the ACLU (which just won a large settlement against my school district, for “discrimination” of course), who question why black and brown students are suspended/expelled more than White/Asian students (to which I ask: WHAT White students??).

    The way the schools get around this now is to have in-house suspensions. That way, they can collect the ADA money for the day, keep the kid ‘in school’, stay under the radar of the activist groups and satisfy the parameters of the teachers’ union which states that teachers have a right to exclude from their classrooms any student who “interrupts or disrupts the educational process.”

    Suspendable classroom offenses (straight from my teaches’ contract) include disruptive behavior, willful defiance of valid authority, obscenity, habitual vulgarity, profanity, violence or threat of violence and, the very latest, hate language based on race, ethnicity, sexual orientation, gender, religion.

    (except for Whites, slurring them is ALWAYS OK, after all, Whites are throughly debased in student textbooks and by the media).

    Imagine how many students would be suspended if these parameters were strictly followed.

    Bon

  • Anonymous

    Yes, Bon, this is true. We call it “In-School Suspension” and use it because we are allowed to suspend students with Individual Education Plans (Special Ed kids) for 10 days, maximum. This way, the student is out of class, but not out of school. Administration wins again! Teachers (and the few students who are there to learn) have to put up with these jerks–again, once their in-school suspension is over. Worse, we have an A/B day schedule, so if a student misbehaves in an A day class, and gets ISS the next day, who benefits? The B day teachers!

  • What_I_Believe

    I have also worked with Blacks and Latinos (and Whites and Asians) kids and concur with the others who also have REAL experience.

    My REAL experience is what also leads me to always “defend” Latinos, especially when being compared with blacks. There is no comparison. NONE.

    I’m in NY and there are lots of Puerto Ricans, Dominicans, and Mexicans and most of them are nice. Certainly a lot more nice ones than not nice ones. Yes, illegal immigration sucks for obvious reasons, etc. but I’m more concerned with the overwhelming number of black on White crime, the flash mobs, etc.

    Sure, there are bad Hispanics but not many here in NY. Not to mention they generally hate blacks with a passion. Wonder why….

  • Bon, From the Land of Babble

    Anonymous #24 writes to Bon:

    Yes, Bon, this is true. We call it ‘In-School Suspension’ and use it because we are allowed to suspend students with Individual Education Plans (Special Ed kids) for 10 days, maximum.

    Always know your rights as a teacher, your state’s education code and state law. I do. I keep a copy of all three in the bottom drawer of my desk, refer to them and have used them when necessary. They come in handy when writing notes to administrators who need to be reminded that they are beholden to state educational or district codes and the teachers’ contract, just as I am as a teacher.

    So many administrators believe they do not have to follow the law — and get away with it because teachers have no clue as to their rights.

    According to IDEA:

    Suspension greater than 10 days (long term suspension)

    A special education student may be suspended more than ten days if it is determined that the inappropriate behavior is not a manifestation of the student’s disability. A manifestation hearing should be scheduled prior to the accumulation of ten days of suspension.

    This is for out of school suspensions, NOT in-house suspensions.

    This way, the student is out of class, but not out of school. Administration wins again!

    How? I want the disruptive kid out of my classroom — whether he sits in the principal’s office, the detention room or the janitor’s closet, I could not care less — he’s out of MY room. It is not my fault if other teachers choose not to read the teachers’ contract, according to which there is NO LIMIT to the number of days a teacher can suspend a student from his classroom. In my district, in-house suspensions include special Ed kids as well as “regular” kids.

    Here is what my teacher’s contract says about classroom suspensions (NOT SCHOOL SUSPENSIONS):

    The teacher may suspend a student from the teacher’s class for that day and the following day. During the period of the suspension the student shall not be returned to the teacher’s class without the consent of the teacher, or be placed in another regular class.

    I’ve known teachers who have suspended incorrigible students every single day for an entire semester until the kid was transferred out. There is NOTHING the administration could do about it. We used to staple a copy of the pertinent section of the teachers’ contract to the suspension forms in case there were any questions — I often included all of the actions I had taken such as calls or notes home and any/all conferences. If you cover yourself as far as possible as a teacher, have done your job according to the parameters of the teachers’ contract and the ed code, that kid is now the administration’s problem, not mine.

    We teachers have a lot more power than most of us know.

    And finally:

    Good luck to you. And brush up on your rights.

    Bon