Free Meals for All Detroit Schoolchildren in Fall

Tammy Stables Battaglia, Detroit Free Press, August 16, 2011

All Detroit Public Schools students will receive free breakfast, lunch and snacks in an effort to remove the stigma of being from a low-income family.

The U.S. Department of Agriculture program chose Michigan as one of three states to participate in the pilot program. Charter schools and districts in Michigan can participate if at least 40% of students are eligible for public assistance.

“One of the primary goals of this program is to eliminate the stigma that students feel when they get a free lunch, as opposed to paying cash,” said DPS Chief Operating Officer Mark Schrupp. “Some students would skip important meals to avoid being identified as low-income. Now, all students will walk through a lunch line and not have to pay. Low-income students will not be easily identifiable and will be less likely to skip meals.”

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The Community Eligibility Option is among the early reforms enacted under President Obama’s Healthy, Hunger-Free Kids Act, which authorized the USDA to select up to three states to test the option in School Year 2011-12. A main factor in choosing the finalists was the prevalence of high-poverty areas. The option will be offered to more states in successive years, and will be available to all states beginning School Year 2014-15.

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  • Anonymous

    So the criteria is having so much welfare in an area that a little more won’t hurt? The food is “free”, because the dwindling taxpayer base is funding it.

  • Question Diversity

    Question: Who is stigmatizing those students that get free lunch in Detroit (or anywhere?) In the case of Detroit, nobody has the moral authority to pick on those who get free lunch, because I’m sure a vast majority of DPS students do get free lunch. (Conveniently, this means the Federal and state school lunch programs will bear very little extra expense because of this Detroit mandate.) In the case of the country at large, beancounters and bureaucrats, and the MSM, like to use “free lunch” participation rates as a circumlocution of, or at least a leading indicator of, a bad school or district, and/or scholastic or academic failure. And I’m sure most of those beancounters and bureaucrats voted Obama. If Obama doesn’t like “stigmatizing” free lunchers, then he should start there.

    Question: I know this is a “slippery slope” logical fallacy, but I’ll ask it anyway: If we have to give free lunch to everyone so as not to stigmatize the ones that deserve it, where does it stop? Does this mean that everyone everywhere should get every possible welfare program so as not to stigmatize that few that do or should be on those programs? Oh boy, you know Obama and the Democrats would just love that. As the lamestream conservatives (rightly) say, to create as much government dependency as possible to engineer as many Democrat votes as possible.

    Question: Isn’t First Lady Michelle Obama worried about obesity? She should be whining about her husband’s administration’s plans to have kids eat more food.

    Question: Didn’t it use to be a big crusade of the left not to stigmatize welfare recipients?

  • john

    It sounds like a great idea. Like everything else in Detroit, this will be just another scam. Government will pay three times what the lunch would normally sell for. Quality will go down and production will expand to encompass the entire student body. Life is good when you’re a minority business with a catering contract. Life isn’t so good when you’re a minority who can’t read like most of the student body in DPS. I would think that if there are any self esteem issues They would be tied to illiteracy and a feeling of utter uselessness in the information age.

  • jan

    At our local schools, the students, or their parents, purchase a “lunch card” in the office and it is used in the cafeteria like a debit card. No one knows who pays how much for their lunch, or if it’s “free”.

    When I went to school (’50s and ’60s), there were no subsidized meals and my parents couldn’t afford to pay for cafeteria lunches. So I took my pb&j sandwich to school everyday until I graduated from high school.

  • A Comment from Australia

    Is this some sort of accelarated learning program? These kids will now, at an early age, learn either one of two things:

    1, There is no such thing as a free lunch, or 2, Welfare dependency starting at elementary school!

  • Lucas

    Well whatta-ya-know? There really is such a thing as a free lunch Virginia and it took our first black president to prove it. Now don’t all of you skeptics out there feel silly?

    Oh how nice it is. Obama is going to pay my bills, feed my kids and put gas in my car. Yes we can America. And the best part is it’s all FREE! How could anyone be against free stuff for the kids?

    How long will it be before we see what a success this is and we extend the program to Atlanta, Philly, Baltimore, Camden, Compton and Oakland?

    Can’t wait for after November 2012.

  • Anonymous

    Free meals in Detroit – free firefighter jobs in Chicago:

    http://goo.gl/1ZyTo

    When will we put an end to white guilt? Will we have to go on until civilization collapses around our ears?

  • Norton

    I don’t think this is that bad of an idea.

    My guess is 90% get it now why not include everyone?

    Money that goes into programs like this are a drop in a 50 gal drum of water compared to what our people in Washington steal everyday.

  • NBJ

    What a waste of money. No wonder this country is going broke when they spend millions just to keep some kids (black kids) from possibly getting their feelings hurt. And let’s face it… I doubt they don’t eat just because it’s free. What utter nonsense.

  • Anonymous

    Can I get a good paying, government job that doesn’t require me to show up for work, so that people on unemployment don’t feel “stigmatized”?

    Our ruling class is depraved.

  • Bernie

    The Detroit school system is probably close to 100% black. Most are already getting fed courtesy of the (white) taxpayer.

    If this wakes a few white people up to racial reality then all the better.

  • sbuffalonative

    “Some students would skip important meals to avoid being identified as low-income.”

    Is this a fact or speculation?

    Another uplift theory. Let’s see how this one plays out.

  • Anonymous

    First let me say that no child in our county should EVER go hungry. That being said, I have seen many “poor” students receive “free” school lunches, immediately dump them in the trash uneaten and untouched, and then spend a few dollars on cookies, candy, and soda pop every day. I found it painful to watch on a number of levels (even if the lunches really were pretty nasty).

  • HH

    Free breakfast??? Since when do public schools even offer breakfast, let alone for free? I graduated high-school in the mid-80’s and there was no breakfast served from K-12!! You ate your breakfast at home. My God what a nanny-state nightmare this has all become!

  • Anonymous

    90% of the kids at my school get “free” breakfast and lunch, and still manage to pump 3-4 dollars into the vending machines every day…we are such suckers to keep allowing this,,,

  • Anonymous

    13 — Anonymous wrote at 8:43 PM on August 17:

    First let me say that no child in our county should EVER go hungry. That being said, I have seen many “poor” students receive “free” school lunches, immediately dump them in the trash uneaten and untouched, and then spend a few dollars on cookies, candy, and soda pop every day. I found it painful to watch on a number of levels (even if the lunches really were pretty nasty).

    ————————————————————

    Why shouldn’t anyone go hungry? For a day or 2 days? Let them plant a garden or go to a church, salvation army, to get free food. I did not know having food supplied by the taxpayers was a “right”? Where is that in our founding documents? Our White people have gone hungry many times in the past and still do.

    Blacks and mexicans are the ones who NEVER go hungry. Many are too obese so I am sure they are eating somewhere. They all get food stamps, Section 8, WIC, (been to a grocery store lately where they frequent?) free meals at school, how about fast food joints? All I see at the mall is blacks and mexicans buying everything under the sun, so they can’t be without the money to buy food, now can they?

  • Anonymous

    As said before,,

    FEED THE BEAR,THE BEAR WILL EAT YOU.!!!!!

    If we do not end up as Mexico or worse,I will and all that post will be amazed.I hope and pray we make it 1 1/2 years and turn this STUPIDITY around.Thank you for having a least one side of congress,PRAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Anonymous

    Another freebie for his people. I doubt these “students” have ever felt uncomfortable getting free meals at school. Maybe a little shame or at least some unease would be good for them. They’ve been getting free meals all their lives.

  • Flaxen-headed Strumpet

    “Question: Isn’t First Lady Michelle Obama worried about obesity? She should be whining about her husband’s administration’s plans to have kids eat more food.”–Question Diversity #2

    As a matter of fact, the Queen Emu Michelle is worried about obesity and this Detroit Free Press omitted other key iniatives in this program.

    First, that the goal is to have all public skools in the nation with 40% or more welfare recipient enrollments covered by the program by 2014. This program also will prohibit a child from bringing his own bag lunch in to eat. And finally, the menus offered in the skool mess halls will have to be approved by the Queen Emu’s Obesity Buster Czar Squad. My guess is that the ghetto urchins will riot if they can’t eat Wise B-B-Q Tatah Chips and fried chicken for lunch.

  • Anonymous

    “President Obama’s Healthy, Hunger-Free Kids Act”

    I didn’t think it was possible, but I find this phrase even more odious and ill-making than “President Bush’s No Child Left Behind Act”.

  • Shawn (the female)

    Stigmatized? What a crock. I’ve never known a black that felt the least bit self conscious or any shame for receiving their freebies. To the contrary; to them it is is considered an ego-boosting triumph.

  • Anonymous

    To Poster 14 HH…in NYC we have free breakfast during the summer! I see the advertising for this on the buses. Also in spanish, of course. And advertising for medicaid. Really, do we have to lure more people into these programs? Most know about them already. Immigrants know exactly where to go to sign up for the goodies. The few that don’t know about them, good for the taxpayers! But no, we must actively seek out more tax eaters. Insanity.

  • Bon, From the Land of Babble

    The NSLP (National School Lunch Program) was signed into law by President Harry Truman in 1946 “to prop up food prices by absorbing farm surpluses, while at the same time providing food to school age children.”

    In the LAUSD, those who receive free food, breakfast and lunch, including during the summer months, are referred to as “customers.”

    Yeah, as if!

    Recently, there was a small scandal when Chef Jamie Oliver was kicked off of LAUSD property:

    Oliver set up a kitchen in Westwood where he asked parents to bring in examples of LAUSD’s cuisine, which he examined in the debut episode and likened to ‘airplane food.’

    Oliver gave the thumbs-down to Los Angeles Unified School District lunch items such as sugar-laden brownies, pastries and chocolate milk and carb-filled pizza.

    Oliver highlighting of ‘pink slime’ beef-remnant filler in hamburger and his display of sugary milk and ‘pizza glop in a microwave’ bag are definitely camera-compelling moments.

    I also have to check off on state tests as to whether the kid participates in NSLP or not — what that has to do with test scores, I know not. I suppose it is an indication as to how many of the district’s students are “poor” (as they carry around 4G and iPhones, iPads, Dr. Dre headphones and sport the latest fashions, hair highlights and extensions and sports-hero shoes).

    #13:

    That being said, I have seen many ‘poor’ students receive ‘free’ school lunches, immediately dump them in the trash uneaten and untouched

    They are required to take the lunch whether they want it or not and yes, indeed MANY do throw it directly into the trash can, entirely untouched!! (then proceed to eat JUNK FOOD). The quality of the food is HORRIBLE!! The smell alone drives me to steer clear of the lunch area!

    As I’ve written here before, some do-gooders wanted to save the tossed food for the homeless but it had to be re-inspected (which costs $$) before being re-distributed so that was ended before it started. I think the district didn’t want the public to see what was being served — free or not!!

    Unbelievable how much of the “free” food is tossed.

    But then, I don’t consider school food palatable, let alone edible…

    These “poor” kids have an entitlement mentality that starts at birth and is encouraged and fostered by the schools…Is it any wonder these are the very ones that riot when every single thing doesn’t go their way???

    Bon

  • Michigan Patriot

    Our state’s motto is ” Pure Michigan ” and is seen on state government billboards as you enter our state. Detroit’s motto should be ” Pure racist parasitism on the hated White man ”

  • Allan

    Jan, don’t you know that pb&j’s are forbidden in many schools today. After all, a kid who is allergic to peanuts might steal your lunch and kill himself.

  • Varina

    “One of the primary goals of this program is to eliminate the stigma that students feel when they get a free lunch, as opposed to paying cash,” said DPS Chief Operating Officer Mark Schrupp. “Some students would skip important meals to avoid being identified as low-income…”

    Ha, ha, that’s funny, Mr. Shrupp. What planet are you living on? By the way, as I type this my husband is in the other room watching Mad Max.

  • White Graduate

    WE never got free breakfast, free lunch, or free anything except the use of textbooks – and if we defaced them we had to pay for them. Textbooks were LOANED to us. We bought our own paper, pens, ink, pencils, rulers, compass, etc. etc. etc. Nobody thought anything about it. I had to buy my own, too – my parents did not pay for it. I babysat for my money in those days. So now the guv’m’t is what a psychologist friend of mine calls “Super Teat.” Provide everything free for the lazy bums who don’t even care about school to begin with. I mean – what earthly good are these people who do nothing but suck the country dry while they sit on their fat behinds? Do we really need these folks?

  • Anonymous

    It is no surprise that the current occupant of the white house can’t figure this out. If you are really worried about poor children being “stigmatized” about paying for their lunch with some lame “low income debit card” why don’t you implement a program where everyone uses the same card to pay for their lunch. Families who can afford to pay for the lunches will have “credits” added to their cards when they pay for them. The poor children can have credits added by the “guvment.” There you have it – all students use the same card and no one knows the difference!

    Geesh – maybe I should be King of the world!

  • Howard W. Campbell

    From Detroit: THANK YOU MICHIGAN/FEDERAL TAXPAYERS!

    To HH #14 – I graduated high school around the same time. My school was 75% black (most of whom lived in Housing projects) and we didn’t have free breakfast. I’ve been laid off before and my kids know good and well not to talk about it in school. Once they powers that be start granting free/reduced lunches, how long before they can control all aspects of your life?

    “Some students would skip important meals to avoid being identified as low-income. Now, all students will walk through a lunch line and not have to pay. Low-income students will not be easily identifiable and will be less likely to skip meals.”

    Since when do most blacks care about being stigmatized for free lunches or unplanned pregnancies. This is par for the course in most ghettos. Wouldn’t Momma be stigmatized using her EBT card rather than cash at the Grocery store? Probably not. If I were to the point of needing an EBT card, I would shop at 2 AM in another part of town wearing a hoodie. My oldest sister knew good and well that if she became pregnant in high school that she would “Go to live with Aunt Mildred”. This was before Roe v. Wade and that term struck fear in the hearts of the girls at her school. I would imagine that most every high school in America until the 1960/70’s had some term for the removal of pregnant girls from the school population. My dad threatened to castrate us boys if we got a girl pregnant in high school.

    Back in the early 1970’s, my Mom had to go down to the school district office to request a transfer for one of my brothers. He was being moved to a special needs class for dyslexia. Some how or another with all of the bean counting that had to take place; it was discovered that since my dad lost his job, we were eligible for reduced price lunches. The woman at the office was about to physically bar the door until my mom signed up every eligible child for this program. Finally my mom exploded with the following statement: “Honest hardworking white people don’t accept this type of charity!” Now, my mom would probably be shipped off to some re-education camp and all of us kids would be in protective custody.

    When the (money) tap runs out, Katy bar the door!

  • Anonymous

    When I was in school in the 60’s and 70’s there were no free lunches. The kids from low income families like me brought their lunch in a brown bag from home. I never felt looked down on, sometimes other students commented that my lunch was better than the food served that day.

  • Jeddermann.

    “Some students would skip important meals to avoid being identified as low-income.”

    “Is this a fact or speculation?”

    It sounds more like preposterous to me. Small kids that age just don’t think that way. All they hear is that it is free and they are told from the earliest age that it is free so take it.

  • Anonymous

    HH–They have been offering breakfasts in this area (WA State) for many years, they were already doing it when my children (now in their 30’s) were in elementary school. Toast and cereal with milk or heated, pre-made pancakes with syrup and each child was offered a small glass of juice or a piece of fresh fruit. As far as I could tell, any child who showed up was given food whether they paid or not. The idea was that fed children learned better than hungry ones. As a school employee my children were eligible for free lunch and of course everybody who wanted it got the free breakfast. My kids preferred to eat breakfast at home and take their lunches. School food is not the best in nutrition, taste or quality.

  • the Guru

    #3 John has it right in my opinion, it is all about the food contractors getting paid and they in turn giving a kick back. Lots of riots in India, people protesting about corruption. This crap is going on all over the world. Politicions are using the so called poor to shakedown the middleclass and we have no place where we can go.

  • Anonymous

    Russia and China threw their communism yoke aside. But no, this country still has to continue this self destructive course of “diversity” and pandering and catering to the lowest denominator in society. This started in the 60’s and instead of realizing the spending of trillions to raise the blacks to the level of whites was a total experimental failure, It is still on track creating more nonsense as shown by this article. This nonsense will end when the hispanics become the majority and less whites paying taxes. The blacks will have a hard adjusting to the new reality. There will be more riots and violence as the massive perpetual handouts originally put in place to buy peace from the blacks come to end. But as in all cases of Universe unreality, the falsity (living on others’ money) does end.

  • Whitey

    When I was in school less than ten years ago we gave a cafeteria worker our lunch number as we went through the line. They kept track of our meals through a computer program then gave us all a bill each month in class. Each kid got a bill in an envelope, even the kids who got free lunch. Their bill would just be $0.00. This is so no one got singled out. This is much cheaper and saner than giving every kid a free lunch.

  • Anonymous

    In the fifties to get a hot lunch,I worked in the cafeteria.I’m sure the organic veggies and fruit will be tossed…What will the children eat during the summer?…

  • Uncle Bob

    Absolute insanity and gross waste. I never ate a school lunch. I usually had a quick bowl or two of cereal and was ready to go. Mom made my lunch, but as I got older she would show me what’s available and I would slap a couple sandwiches together myself. That, along with an apple or orange or banana — a couple of cookies on lucky days — and I was on my way. Almost everyone I went to school with did the same.

    Why can’t kids do that today?

  • MAJ

    From the article:

    “Some students would skip important meals to avoid being identified as low-income. Now, all students will walk through a lunch line and not have to pay. Low-income students will not be easily identifiable and will be less likely to skip meals.”

    This is utter insanity. I’m convinced the country has entered The Twilight Zone.

    The crazed white enablers and their moron black puppet parasites will one day, hopefully, have to answer for this madness.

    Whatever shred of personal responsibility that was left among blacks is now gone with this communist/socialist program. There are so many vile ideas built into this fiasco it could fill a Kremlin library.

    If you remove the liberal dogma and blinders there are certain elements that stand out. But you need to ask the question “Why is this being done?”

    I would surmise the Detroit schools are getting boatloads of extra money from the feds and allowed to keep certain amounts after feeding the little diners their breakfast, lunch, and snacks. Who knows where this money goes? I only know where it’s coming from – us.

    No one wants children to go hungry but by the same token no one wants this money wasted. And it is being wasted – you can’t tell me every Detroit student deserves free meals. Especially when these same students get gobs of assistance from the government to eat in the first place.

    Let the parents (right – more like the grandmammy) either save and pay for the meals or better yet prepare them at home. I am sick and tired of paying for black people to eat when they could easily get by without wasting more tax dollars.

    Moreover, it is the WORST possible way to instill values and responsibility – from the adult down to the kindergarten child.

    Next, who are they kidding? Blacks have no sense of shame or stigma. This is obvious to any person with a functioning brain stem. Blacks have shown they will greedily taken trillions of undeserved dollars from the government – and still commit fraud, will jump at the opportunity to rip off the system, will continue to commit the majority of crimes, will literally kill you for a cell phone, and glorify criminal behavior in their “culture.”

    An even cursory look at black behavior shows that embarrassment or shame is not built in to the neurons.

    And this idiot (Shrupp) says Shaniqua is going to skip lunch because she is worried about how it might look. I think not.

    Then there is the implied notion that with full little tummies the “achievement gap” will disappear. Sorry, you can’t eat your way out of an IQ of 81 and several million years of evolutionary side-branching.

    Is this how desperate liberals and blacks have become – to claim that school failure is due to lack of free lunches?

    My advice would be to shut the whole thing down – trust me, these folks will still eat (and for free courtesy of Uncle Sap) and it might even teach them a thing or two.

    We are doomed.

  • shaunantijihad

    Which will teach them that food comes from Government and not from work. How many will end up “on food stamps”? Which is another way of saying living off the work of others. Of course, it makes a generation of socialists. Sounds like a plan.

    I have a better plan. The school makes all pupils grow the food on school grounds that will then be consumed. If you don’t grow your allotment, you don’t eat.

  • Kenelm Digby

    Wasn’t it Milton Friedman who first said “there’s no such thing as a free lunch”.

    A truism if there ever was one.

  • (AWG) Average White Guy

    Today I noticed a Lamborghini passing me on the Interstate. I felt stigmatized.

  • Anonymous

    “Question: Didn’t it use to be a big crusade of the left not to stigmatize welfare recipients”?

    So, sensitive leftists are stigmatizing other leftists who receive free lunches. Oh, the self-hate. Double the tolerance/terror training? It’s a vicious circle caused by the white man.

  • Detroit WASP

    Answer this!

    If the poor black children are going hungry, why are so many overweight? See story, the poorer you are, the fatter you are.

    http://goo.gl/ppHS5

    So on one hand, the kids are going hungry, and on the other, they are fat? These are strange days. In case anyone didn’t know, the free lunch program was started during WWII. To many white, rural farm kids were too skinny to get into the service and had to be fattened.

    http://centralillinois912project.com/?p=7589

    “Military concerns about the fitness of American children are not new. When the National School Lunch Act was first passed in 1946, it was seen as a matter of national security. At the time many military leaders recognized that poor nutrition was a significant factor reducing the pool of qualified candidates for service. Our country is facing another serious health crisis. Obesity rates threaten the overall health of America and the future strength of our military. We must act, as we did after World War II, to ensure that our children can one day defend our country, if need be.”

  • Anonymous

    There is no such thing as a ‘free’ lunch.

  • underdog

    Dollar Tree calculator math for DSS Food Stamp/WIC Voucher Benefits Review Officers and Child Nutrition Czar Michelle Obama:

    180 publik skool dayz per year times .66 daily nutritional requirements (breakfast + snack + lunch) eekwals 33% of a child’s annual nutritional requirements. Will the ghetto child’s Food Stamp/WIC benefits calculation be adjusted to reflect this new addition to “family income”? Don’t y’all be holdin’ yo’ breath.

    An’ anutha thang here Mizz Michelle– Since your holy white stallion is the reduction of obesity in Amerika (with special emphasis on the ghetto), I would like to know when you are going to take a serious look at just what kinds of foodstuffs can be bought with an EBT card in this country. I seriously doubt that you have the courage to do so.

  • Charles B. Tiffany

    This is another con job that in the end will harm the people it is supposed to help. The idea has nothing to do with nutrition. The money the single mother or grand mother will save will go to the boy friend to fuel his side hustle anyway. What this really means is that Detriot will be able to keep getting federal aid even though they fail the ” No Child Left Behind,” mandate. The law says that the greater number of kids on free lunch the lower scores your school can make and still get federal money. We have a ghastly prison-like schoool in Osceola county that has 65% of it`s kids on free lunch. Mostly made up of transplants from New York City ghetto schools who are shipped south for discipline and to live with their abuelas. The school made a c last year. If they didn`t get the break it would have been a d.The school officials actually encourage families to sign up for free lunch. The area this school draws from would be like Beverly Hills compared to Detroit. Also isn`t Michigan supposed to be a battleground state next election?

    Charles B. Tiffany

    Kissimmee, Florida

  • Anonymous

    If this is being done to supposedly remove the stigma of being poor then it makes no sense to do it in a district where the vast majority are getting free lunch anyways.

    If that is the rationale, then it would make more sense in a well to do district where a small percentage of students get free lunch.

    I never understood why welfare people would get free lunch anyways, since we are already paying for their food!

  • Muchacho

    Honestly I got nothing against these kids. So what if they are black. This is America and every kid deserves to have something to eat. When I was growing up I got free lunch every single year. If it wasn’t for those free lunches I wouldn’t have had anything at all some days. God bless those lunch ladies, they knew I probably didn’t get much at home so they would give me a little extra most of the time. Sorry if paying a little extra tax money to feed some poor kids is such a big deal but some of these kids really do need this. Not everyone was born upper-middle class with a silver spoon in their mouth my spoon was plastic. I usually agree with most of the articles here but complaining about feeding some American kids who really need it just because they are from Detroit is not something I can agree with.

  • mark

    Will the free school lunches in Detroit improve student’s IQ and school performance. I think not. What a waste of money.

  • Anonymous

    #6 Lucas…Obama is not going to be re- elected in 2012. We may get some awful Republican RINO, but Obama has nary a snowball’s chance of getting the vote. Be confident, and tell everybody you know that he’s unelectable. Most people know it in their hearts, anyway, b/c he’s so weak.

  • Anonymous

    1994: Dubuque pleads for more diversity:

    http://www.amnation.com/vfr/archives/012486.html

    In a multicultural manifesto for the virtually all-white city of Dubuque, Iowa (pathetically titled “We Want to Change”), Dubuque’s leaders declared: “Diversity calls us into a world that focuses on the many-splendored beauty of others.”

    2011: The reality of Diversity in Dubuque:

    http://www.luxlibertas.com/raising-hell-in-subsidized-housing/

    Dubuque, Iowa, is struggling with an influx of Section 8 recipients from Chicago housing projects. Section 8 concentrations account for 11 of 13 local violent crime hot spots, according to a study by the Northern Illinois University Center for Governmental Studies. Though Section 8 residents account for only 5% of the local population, a 2010 report released by the city government found that more than 20% of arrestees resided at Section 8 addresses.

    Dubuque’s city government responded by trimming the size of the local Section 8 program. HUD retaliated by launching a “civil rights compliance review” of the program (final results pending).

    HUD seems far more enthusiastic about cracking down on localities than on troublesome Section 8 recipients who make life miserable for the rest of the community. And because Section 8 recipients in some areas are mostly black or Latino, almost any enforcement effort can be denounced as discriminatory.

  • Jack

    “…in an effort to remove the stigma of being from a low-income family.’

    There ABSOLUTELY should be a stigma attached to being a tax leech.

    If there is none why the heck try to get out of the situation?

    Every single person out there using “benefits” SHOULD BE STIGMATIZED!

    You can take your equality of outcome perversity and get lost.

  • Anonymous

    OK, so here we are after half a century of welfare state and every manner of social engineering program…and yet we still have massive poverty. How much of this is due to the behaviors engendered by the welfare state? You make dependency respectable, you end up subsidizing more dependency as well as dysfunctional behaviors.

    What is the endgame here? Do even liberals believe that one day poverty will be ended and that the denizens of the inner cities shall become self-supporting? Or is the dependency going to keep on going until the system collapses? It’s all the more amazing when you consider how every level of government is broke and that sooner or later the bread and circuses will run out.

    I have a better plan. The school makes all pupils grow the food on school grounds that will then be consumed. If you don’t grow your allotment, you don’t eat.

    That is a good idea, and might teach some useful life skills. But one suspects that someone will point out that working the soil will bring back memories of slavery, and that will end that!

    My advice would be to shut the whole thing down –

    It would be interesting to see what would happen the day the welfare ran out.

    We are doomed.

    It’s getting hard to argue that point these days!

  • Tim Mc Hugh

    In my day, Sigh!… A school lunch was 40 cents and an Ice Cream Sandwich was a nickel… You do the division…

  • rjp

    Actually this forced lunch policy has become quite common in the past decade.

    The difference is it is usually implemented at the local level in areas where very low percentages of students would qualify for free lunch and there could actually be a stigma attached.

    There is no stigma when 40% of the children recieve it. And this is where the USDA and the government are wrong.

    In all honesty if fosters dependence upon the school, marginalizing the parents.

    It’s all about dependence on government.

  • Anonymous

    These programs may deserve a good bit of support all across the political spectrum. For one thing, a nutritional utopia is attained these days for youths in America simply by what is omitted from a meal rather than what is contained within it by

    anyone with any nutritional wisdom, budget constraints notwithstanding.

  • Alexandra

    HH–

    My son’s school district, about 95% white, has been offering breakfast at school for some time now, and of course free/reduced rates to those who qualify.

    The special ed eat their breakfast at school (my son is a special ed student). So–I’ve been packing my son’s breakfast AND lunch! I’m glad he loves hard-boiled eggs.

    If you compare what’s in school breakfasts and lunches, it’s not all that different from McDonald’s…which is why I pack.

  • EUGENELANE

    Writer uses freedom of information act to out flash mobs as black racist crimes.

    Nice article.

    http://goo.gl/wFL8o

  • Anonymous

    The stigmatize kid is the one who didn’t qualify for a free meal. I can hear the taunts from the free mealers, “If you so smart, why you still here?”

    Now those that can afford to buy their own meals won’t be stigmatized by the majority that are wards of the state.

  • Anonymous

    From the article:

    “Some students would skip important meals to avoid being identified as low-income. Now, all students will walk through a lunch line and not have to pay. Low-income students will not be easily identifiable and will be less likely to skip meals.”

    This is utter insanity. I’m convinced the country has entered The Twilight Zone.

    The crazed white enablers and their moron black puppets will one day, hopefully, have to answer for this madness.

    Whatever shred of personal responsibility that was left among blacks is now gone with this communist/socialist program. There are so many vile ideas built into this fiasco it could fill a Kremlin library.

    If you remove the liberal dogma and blinders there are certain elements that stand out. But you need to ask the question “Why is this being done?”

    I would surmise the Detroit schools are getting boatloads of extra money from the feds and allowed to keep certain amounts after feeding the little diners their breakfast, lunch, and snacks. Who knows where this money goes? I only know where it’s coming from – us.

    No one wants children to go hungry but by the same token no one wants this money wasted. And it is being wasted – you can’t tell me every Detroit student deserves free meals. Especially when these same students get gobs of assistance from the government to eat in the first place.

    Let the parents (right – more like the grandmammy) either save and pay for the meals or better yet prepare them at home. I am sick and tired of paying for black people to eat when they could easily get by without wasting more tax dollars.

    Moreover, it is the WORST possible way to instill values and responsibility – from the adult down to the kindergarten child.

    Next, who are they kidding? Blacks have no sense of shame or stigma. This is obvious to any person with a functioning brain stem. Blacks have shown they will greedily taken trillions of undeserved dollars from the government – and still commit fraud, will jump at the opportunity to rip off the system, will continue to commit the majority of crimes, will literally kill you for a cell phone, and glorify criminal behavior in their “culture.”

    An even cursory look at black behavior shows that embarrassment or shame is not built in to the neurons.

    And this idiot (Shrupp) says Shaniqua is going to skip lunch because she is worried about how it might look. I think not.

    Then there is the implied notion that with full little tummies the “achievement gap” will disappear. Sorry, you can’t eat your way out of an IQ of 81 and several million years of evolutionary side-branching.

    Is this how desperate liberals and blacks have become – to claim that school failure is due to lack of free lunches?

    My advice would be to shut the whole thing down – trust me, these folks will still eat (and for free courtesy of Uncle Sap) and it might even teach them a thing or two.

    We are doomed.

  • Anonymous

    #38 MAJ, it’s not the “achievement gap” it’s the “intelligence gap”. As I’ve said before, let’s start using this term instead!

  • Shawn (the female)

    Call me a hardliner. The schools’ job is to educate. To teach; math, English, history, etc. Not to feed or babysit, not to build self esteem, not to make you believe you’re special. That’s the responsibility of the parents. The children who are getting free school meals are children of parents who are already getting welfare AND food stamps to feed their family. THEY were the ones who had the kids – now it’s their responsibility to raise them; not to use them as a source of income. It’s not my place to feed these kids. They can fix their kids’ lunches with their free food – I don’t get free food. Private programs are quite different; if they want to feed needy children, then that’s the way to go.

    Years ago, particularly during the depression and in the rural areas many kids went to school with little or nothing in their stomachs because that’s the way it had to be. And their parents didn’t believe it was up to someone else to feed their kids.

  • ChiTony

    Although this is prob a waste of tax payer dollars, lets not forgot that school food is usually downright nasty. I don’t envy what these black/hispanic/low income kids will be eating.

  • Tom S.

    #48 – Muchacho – Sorry if paying a little extra tax money to feed some poor kids is such a big deal –

    I’ve got news for you – alot of White people, myself included, are getting VERY tired of being FORCED to “pay alittle extra” to support a people who have a history of making bad decisions and refuse to support themselves or their “kids”! I would really like to start keeping that “little extra” for me and mine thank you – I WORKED for it! Whats next – paying “alittle extra” so they can ALL have scholarships, cloths, school supplies, vacations, dinner for them and their “homies” at Red Lobster, their first car, their first house? Where do you draw the line? Programs such as this only make the problem worse by instilling in these “kids” that eveything is free and others ( racisss Whitey ) will always take care of them, so why worry about doing good in school to get a good job! We’ve been paying “alittle extra” for decades now and all we’ve gotten in return are flash mobs and skyrocketing black on White crime, neither of which existed before LBJ’s “war on poverty” programs. As long as theres “free stuff” being given out, there will always be “poor people” there to grab it! As they say – “build it and they will come!”

  • Mr. Stricter

    This doesn’t especially bother me. I was a poor White kid (dad was drunken deserter) in a 99% White area who used the program , I won’t begrudge others even if I have no use for them

    Now of course parents should be doing their jobs but given half of Detroit can’t read and 3/4 are probably on drugs, thats not going to happen.

    Plus of the kids that can learn or are willing to try (not many but some Whites stuck in that hellhole and even a few Blacks and Hispanics) you can’t learn with an empty stomach.

  • Anonymous

    48 — Muchacho wrote at 10:09 AM on August 18:

    Honestly I got nothing against these kids. So what if they are black. This is America and every kid deserves to have something to eat. When I was growing up I got free lunch every single year. If it wasn’t for those free lunches I wouldn’t have had anything at all some days. God bless those lunch ladies, they knew I probably didn’t get much at home so they would give me a little extra most of the time. Sorry if paying a little extra tax money to feed some poor kids is such a big deal but some of these kids really do need this. Not everyone was born upper-middle class with a silver spoon in their mouth my spoon was plastic. I usually agree with most of the articles here but complaining about feeding some American kids who really need it just because they are from Detroit is not something I can agree with.

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    Dear Lord, where do people like you come from? Paying a “little” extra tax money???? You must not be good in math, are you? It cost BILLIONS in taxes!

    Well, “Muchacho”… Let me tell you something poor White kids for eons have gone to school hungry back before the 50’s and 60’s and even now.. Back then, the PARENTS did what they could to provide some food for their children! They planted gardens, had orange trees, cooked from scratch. Raised chickens for eggs and meat. My Mom canned fruits and vegetables for the winter. They did odd jobs to get a dollar or two. Or neighbors, churches helped out in the real bad times. Their bad times did not last for years and generation after generation. My parents had 10 kids and my Mom always packed a lunch for us. We ate oatmeal, eggs for breakfast or pancakes made from scratch.

    I had 5 kids and when my youngest was 5 years old I got a divorce and raised them myself. Had many hard times, but I made SURE they each had a sack lunch every morning to take to school. Didn’t even get food stamps!

    Now they all get food stamps and FREE breakfasts and lunches to boot! What do they do with their darn food stamps anyway? I have seen families who get $300, $400 and more a MONTH in food stamps! Do they sell them for drugs or whatever they want? They sure don’t pack their kids a lunch, do they? They even have FREE sack lunches now for these kids in the SUMMER time at certain parks, etc in their own “neighborhoods”! Why? Because there is no school in session and they say these kids still need their free lunches!

    Maybe you need to READ the rest of the comments here and quit crying with your little sob story! Especially this part, as you said, quote “So what if they are black”.

    “Next, who are they kidding? Blacks have no sense of shame or stigma. This is obvious to any person with a functioning brain stem. Blacks have shown they will greedily taken trillions of undeserved dollars from the government – and still commit fraud, will jump at the opportunity to rip off the system, will continue to commit the majority of crimes, will literally kill you for a cell phone, and glorify criminal behavior in their “culture.”

    “An even cursory look at black behavior shows that embarrassment or shame is not built in to the neurons.”

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    Most of us were NOT born with a silver spoon in out mouths, Muchacho, and your argument is silly and offensive. Most of us had it worse than you did but our parents always found something for us to eat! We may have been “hungry” for awhile but we did find food to eat, such as oranges, peaches, lemons, from our trees, and we gave them away to anyone who wanted to come and pick them.

    No one sat around feeling sorry for themselves and whining that they did not have enough food to eat and were hungry. We most certainly never in our wildest dreams EXPECTED the taxpayers to give us freebies. My parents would have never accepted those freebies in the first place. They kept their faith in God. Now people have no shame or moral convictions to go through the rough times, they think they are “special” and “deserve” something for doing nothing. They are LEECHES, plain and simple.

  • Anonymous

    #65 says,

    Plus of the kids that can learn or are willing to try (not many but some Whites stuck in that hellhole and even a few Blacks and Hispanics) you can’t learn with an empty stomach.

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    Really? Can’t learn on an empty stomach? What nonsense.

    Gee, tell that to the great depression Whites.

    Tell that to the settlers.

    Tell that to those on the Mayflower.

    Tell that to the Pilgrims and all those in between.

    Tell that to those cowboys in the Wild West and especially those fighting in the Civil War.

    Tell that to our military guys during all our wars and especially those in concentration camps.

    Tell that to all the poor throughout history who didn’t get any “freebies” through forced taxation.

  • cm810

    So, let me get this straight: These people get food stamps, & meals all day long at school for free?

    Just how much of our money have they been wasting?

    If you can’t feed ’em, don’t breed ’em.

  • Anonymous

    Pretty much all urban schools filled with blacks and latinos have a lot of this ‘free’ lunch going on.

  • Tom in Illinois

    Well, looks like I won’t be eating out anyplace for a year…because I’ll be paying for someone elses this school year.

  • The Incredible White Machine

    Since Atlanta went into a frenzy with their foo’ stamp delay, imagine the uproar in a place like detroit if the free foo’ were also delayed. Must not be bad living in detroit especially if you’re a kid in school, it’d be thyanksgiving whether it’s breakfast, lunch, or dinner!

  • Anonymous

    Oh I remember free food in school. Lets see, that was in the late 40s til very early 50s. You scrounged everything back then, and so most kids had a can with a string for a handle and a spoon. The free lunch consisted of pea soup, lentil soup, potato soup, noodle soup and sometimes cocoa. My cousin George still got free lunch. By the time I started school in 54 it had been done away with. That was after WWII in Germany and those kids were hungry, and I mean hungry. Their folks were glad for it, it meant someone else got to eat a little bit more at home. I got a slice of bread to take to school, nothing on it, dry bread. Once I took two turnips. Later yet, when times were getting a little better, my school did not allow bananas. There were kids who had a piece of dry bread and it is hard to watch someone else eat when you are hungry. So the two or three who could have brought a banana had to eat it at home. I remember when I had my first banana, I was twelve. The challenge was, how do you eat that thing. Trying to take a bite out of it was awful.

    Oh, it was the Quakers who were sponsoring school lunches.

  • Anonymous

    Prisons provide free meals, too. The “parents” of these ghetto types have spent some time in the Joint, so getting a meal at a Public Institution is normal to them, and expected.