Cops: Gang Member Killed, Another Seriously Wounded at Funeral

Jeremy Gorner et al., Chicago Tribune, November 27, 2012

Shots rang out, causing panic and chaos as hundreds of mourners were leaving a Catholic church on the South Side following funeral services Monday for a slain reputed gang member.

As people scattered for exits, a woman knocked Deborah Echols-Moore, 59, to the floor and fell atop her. Her shoes were thrown off her feet. When she stood back up, she fled barefoot out a door.

“When I came outside, you still can hear shooting. Boom! Boom! Boom! I still ran…people was running behind me,” the longtime CTA employee said not long after the 12:30 p.m. shooting. “You didn’t know which way to go or what to do. All I knew to do was run for my life.”

Chicago police said one man was killed, another critically injured in the bloodshed at St. Columbanus Church. Police identified both as Gangster Disciples members and convicted felons, illustrating once again the high risks of gang membership in a year in which rising homicides have brought Chicago unwanted national attention.

GDs alone make up more than a quarter of the city’s approximately 470 homicide victims. About 60 percent of this year’s homicide victims were gang members, according to department statistics.

Police were still investigating who was responsible for the shooting, but investigators said the neighborhood has long been rife with conflict between GDs and rival Black Disciples.

Illustrating the sudden, often unpredictable nature of the violence, police Superintendent Garry McCarthy just a couple of hours earlier was touting the department’s crime-fighting strategies in tamping down the city’s rate of violence since earlier in the year when homicides soared. Through Sunday, homicides have risen more than 19 percent over the same period a year earlier, department records show.

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Rev. Corey Brooks, a well-known South Side pastor who officiated at Monday’s services for James Holman, 32, said a church would have been off-limits for gangbangers at one time.

“Now we are living at a day and time where these younger criminals have no regard for life or for street rules,” he said.

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Charles Childs, a co-owner of the A.A. Rayner and Sons Funeral Home across the street from the church, held an uneventful visitation for Holman on Sunday. On Monday he said he saw the gunman firing his weapon as he came down the front steps outside the church.

“No place is safe,” he said. “It’s just despicable.”

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  • razorrare

    I dont find blacks shooting blacks as being despicable…thats less black mouths i have to feed paid for by my hard earned tax dollars. What i do find despicable is the black on White crime,murder and rape that my White racial group has to endear because of treasonus politicians who are lapdogs of a tiny elite forcing multicultural/multiracial policys upon us without our approval.

    • AutomaticSlim

      Amen!

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/XCNMNRYFG4X53ARYMNSQSCKYFI Stan

      Let me guess, you voted for Romney….

  • The__Bobster

    I’m more surprised when gunplay doesn’t result when a groidle comes together.

  • http://countenance.wordpress.com/ Question Diversity

    Black funerals are regenerative affairs, in that they cause more funerals.

    While we’re on this point, has anyone else noticed how black cemeteries are so poorly maintained? I have noticed about blacks that they’ll make a huge emotional production when one of theirs dies, and the funeral proceedings will be a marvel to behold. But not long after, it seems like they all forget that Du’shawntravious ever lived, and they won’t ever mow the grass around his grave, much less visit his grave.

    • So CAL Snowman

      There are black only cemeteries? I figured they would INSIST on burying their dead as close to or on top of deceased Whites, figuring their dead can ride our dead’s coattails to the afterlife!

      • http://countenance.wordpress.com/ Question Diversity

        Yes there are. Problem is, it’s easy to go past one not knowing it’s a cemetery, because you and I would look at it and see nothing more than a field of overgrown weeds.

        • razorrare

          Or this…

          Georgia Crematory Operator Arrested Again
          Reuters | 2/18/02

          NOBLE, Ga. (Reuters) – The owner of a Georgia crematory where more than 100 unburied bodies were found stacked like firewood in storage sheds and abandoned in the nearby woods has been arrested and jailed for a second time, authorities said on Monday.

          Ray Brent Marsh, who runs the Tri-State Crematory in the rural northwest Georgia town of Noble, was charged with 11 counts of theft by deception for allegedly taking payment for cremations that were never performed, said John Bankhead, a spokesman for the Georgia Bureau of Investigation.

          The charges were in addition to the five counts of theft that Marsh, 28, was charged with Saturday when he was first arrested following an initial search of the sprawling 16-acre crematory grounds.

          Marsh, who originally told investigators the crematory’s incinerator had not been working, was released Sunday after posting a $25,000 bond. He was scheduled to appear in court in a second bond hearing on Monday afternoon.

          The new arrest came as state and local police intensified their search for human remains at the Tri-State Crematory, located about 85 miles northwest of Atlanta.

          Bankhead said 118 unburied bodies in varying states of decomposition had been discovered on the grounds of the crematory, but added that investigators expected the final count to be closer to 300.

          Police expect to find more bodies when they open a number of crematory vaults. One vault opened on Sunday contained more than 20 bodies. There are also plans to dredge a lake near the crematory as part of the search.

          A makeshift morgue has been set up at the crematory and medical examiners have positively identified 21 of the bodies, but their efforts have been stymied by the poor condition of some of the remains, which may date back as far as 20 years.

          Walker County Sheriff Steve Wilson said authorities were asking relatives of those who had been sent to the crematory to provide dental records and other information that might help in the identification process.

          ‘DEVASTATING FOR THE FAMILIES’

          The Tri-State Crematory has been in business for about 30 years and routinely received bodies from funeral homes in Alabama, Georgia and Tennessee. Marsh has run the business since taking over from his father in the 1990s.

          Police suspect the crematory may have foregoing cremations for years and passing off wood chips and other substances as ashes to grieving relatives throughout the region.

          Some of those same relatives now gather daily at a local civic center to learn the true fate of their loved ones. Many carry the urns that they once thought held the ashes of a deceased family member.

          “It’s devastating for the families who recently lost loved ones and also for those who thought everything was taken care of years ago,” said Lisa Ray, a spokeswoman for the Georgia Emergency Management Agency, which is providing grief counselors to the family members.

          Ray added that health officials were testing water samples in the area to ensure that there had been no contamination from the decomposing remains. Georgia Gov. Roy Barnes has declared a state of emergency in the county, enabling it to receive funding for the cleanup.

          Police started investigating the crematory, which is located on land surrounding a residential neighborhood, after an area resident reported finding a human skull late last week in the surrounding woods.

          The discovery of the corpses at the crematory came just months after a funeral company was accused in a Florida lawsuit of digging up bodies and dumping them in the woods to make room for new burials…
          Ray Marsh is black…

        • razorrare

          Or this…

          Georgia Crematory Operator Arrested Again
          Reuters | 2/18/02

          NOBLE, Ga. (Reuters) – The owner of a Georgia crematory where more than 100 unburied bodies were found stacked like firewood in storage sheds and abandoned in the nearby woods has been arrested and jailed for a second time, authorities said on Monday.

          Ray Brent Marsh, who runs the Tri-State Crematory in the rural northwest Georgia town of Noble, was charged with 11 counts of theft by deception for allegedly taking payment for cremations that were never performed, said John Bankhead, a spokesman for the Georgia Bureau of Investigation.

          The charges were in addition to the five counts of theft that Marsh, 28, was charged with Saturday when he was first arrested following an initial search of the sprawling 16-acre crematory grounds.

          Marsh, who originally told investigators the crematory’s incinerator had not been working, was released Sunday after posting a $25,000 bond. He was scheduled to appear in court in a second bond hearing on Monday afternoon.

          The new arrest came as state and local police intensified their search for human remains at the Tri-State Crematory, located about 85 miles northwest of Atlanta.

          Bankhead said 118 unburied bodies in varying states of decomposition had been discovered on the grounds of the crematory, but added that investigators expected the final count to be closer to 300.

          Police expect to find more bodies when they open a number of crematory vaults. One vault opened on Sunday contained more than 20 bodies. There are also plans to dredge a lake near the crematory as part of the search.

          A makeshift morgue has been set up at the crematory and medical examiners have positively identified 21 of the bodies, but their efforts have been stymied by the poor condition of some of the remains, which may date back as far as 20 years.

          Walker County Sheriff Steve Wilson said authorities were asking relatives of those who had been sent to the crematory to provide dental records and other information that might help in the identification process.

          ‘DEVASTATING FOR THE FAMILIES’

          The Tri-State Crematory has been in business for about 30 years and routinely received bodies from funeral homes in Alabama, Georgia and Tennessee. Marsh has run the business since taking over from his father in the 1990s.

          Police suspect the crematory may have foregoing cremations for years and passing off wood chips and other substances as ashes to grieving relatives throughout the region.

          Some of those same relatives now gather daily at a local civic center to learn the true fate of their loved ones. Many carry the urns that they once thought held the ashes of a deceased family member.

          “It’s devastating for the families who recently lost loved ones and also for those who thought everything was taken care of years ago,” said Lisa Ray, a spokeswoman for the Georgia Emergency Management Agency, which is providing grief counselors to the family members.

          Ray added that health officials were testing water samples in the area to ensure that there had been no contamination from the decomposing remains. Georgia Gov. Roy Barnes has declared a state of emergency in the county, enabling it to receive funding for the cleanup.

          Police started investigating the crematory, which is located on land surrounding a residential neighborhood, after an area resident reported finding a human skull late last week in the surrounding woods.

          The discovery of the corpses at the crematory came just months after a funeral company was accused in a Florida lawsuit of digging up bodies and dumping them in the woods to make room for new burials…
          Ray Marsh is black…

          or this…Even in Death Emmitt Till Can Not Rest…blacks were responsible as well for this…

          http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/31896164/ns/us_news-life/t/even-death-no-rest-civil-rights-icon/

          more recently blacks were responsible for this…Arlington Cemetary…

          http://www.mentalfloss.com/blogs/archives/128128

          FuneralGate…Scandal in Palm Beach Florida–black cemetery workers also responsible but SCI,largest Funeral Corporation is ultimately held responsible…
          http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/broward/sfl-1220gardens_gallery,0,5455964.photogallery

        • razorrare

          Or this…

          Georgia Crematory Operator Arrested Again
          Reuters | 2/18/02

          NOBLE, Ga. (Reuters) – The owner of a Georgia crematory where more than 100 unburied bodies were found stacked like firewood in storage sheds and abandoned in the nearby woods has been arrested and jailed for a second time, authorities said on Monday.

          Ray Brent Marsh, who runs the Tri-State Crematory in the rural northwest Georgia town of Noble, was charged with 11 counts of theft by deception for allegedly taking payment for cremations that were never performed, said John Bankhead, a spokesman for the Georgia Bureau of Investigation.

          The charges were in addition to the five counts of theft that Marsh, 28, was charged with Saturday when he was first arrested following an initial search of the sprawling 16-acre crematory grounds.

          Marsh, who originally told investigators the crematory’s incinerator had not been working, was released Sunday after posting a $25,000 bond. He was scheduled to appear in court in a second bond hearing on Monday afternoon.

          The new arrest came as state and local police intensified their search for human remains at the Tri-State Crematory, located about 85 miles northwest of Atlanta.

          Bankhead said 118 unburied bodies in varying states of decomposition had been discovered on the grounds of the crematory, but added that investigators expected the final count to be closer to 300.

          Police expect to find more bodies when they open a number of crematory vaults. One vault opened on Sunday contained more than 20 bodies. There are also plans to dredge a lake near the crematory as part of the search.

          A makeshift morgue has been set up at the crematory and medical examiners have positively identified 21 of the bodies, but their efforts have been stymied by the poor condition of some of the remains, which may date back as far as 20 years.

          Walker County Sheriff Steve Wilson said authorities were asking relatives of those who had been sent to the crematory to provide dental records and other information that might help in the identification process.

          ‘DEVASTATING FOR THE FAMILIES’

          The Tri-State Crematory has been in business for about 30 years and routinely received bodies from funeral homes in Alabama, Georgia and Tennessee. Marsh has run the business since taking over from his father in the 1990s.

          Police suspect the crematory may have foregoing cremations for years and passing off wood chips and other substances as ashes to grieving relatives throughout the region.

          Some of those same relatives now gather daily at a local civic center to learn the true fate of their loved ones. Many carry the urns that they once thought held the ashes of a deceased family member.

          “It’s devastating for the families who recently lost loved ones and also for those who thought everything was taken care of years ago,” said Lisa Ray, a spokeswoman for the Georgia Emergency Management Agency, which is providing grief counselors to the family members.

          Ray added that health officials were testing water samples in the area to ensure that there had been no contamination from the decomposing remains. Georgia Gov. Roy Barnes has declared a state of emergency in the county, enabling it to receive funding for the cleanup.

          Police started investigating the crematory, which is located on land surrounding a residential neighborhood, after an area resident reported finding a human skull late last week in the surrounding woods.

          The discovery of the corpses at the crematory came just months after a funeral company was accused in a Florida lawsuit of digging up bodies and dumping them in the woods to make room for new burials…
          Ray Marsh is black…

          or this…Even in Death Emmitt Till Can Not Rest…blacks were responsible as well for this…

          http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/31896164/ns/us_news-life/t/even-death-no-rest-civil-rights-icon/

          more recently blacks were responsible for this…Arlington Cemetary…

          http://www.mentalfloss.com/blogs/archives/128128

          FuneralGate…Scandal in Palm Beach Florida–black cemetery workers also responsible but SCI,largest Funeral Corporation is ultimately held responsible…
          http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/broward/sfl-1220gardens_gallery,0,5455964.photogallery

          • Michael_C_Scott

            The article about Arlington was no suprise; blacks run everything else the same way; why should the national military cemetary be any different?

          • http://profile.yahoo.com/XCNMNRYFG4X53ARYMNSQSCKYFI Stan

            Racist is what racist does…..

    • C_C_Conrad

      Well you know how scared of graveyards they are.

    • Joseph

      They are likely to steal the gravemarker if made of metal.

    • StillModerated

      And I understand headstones featuring an off the hook telephone with the slogan “Jesus Called” are quite the trendy thing. However, I have yet to see one.

      • Joseph

        Does he call on Obamaphones, or does only Mohammed call on those?

    • Katherine McChesney

      Anything blacks have are going to be poorly maintained. Have you ever see their college campuses? Litter everywhere. The one black (racist) woman I knew filled me in on some of their beliefs. Blacks throw down their trash wherever they are because ….. it creates a job for someone. LOL

      • http://countenance.wordpress.com/ Question Diversity

        Trash doesn’t much offend black college students…unless the litter is cotton balls strewn upon a sidewalk leading into the black student center at the University of Missouri.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/XCNMNRYFG4X53ARYMNSQSCKYFI Stan

        I believe I found some KKKers!!! Lucky me…

  • Ulick

    “Illustrating the sudden, often unpredictable nature of the violence”

    Let’s be honest Mr. Article Writer — Illustrating the sudden, often unpredictable and violent nature of blacks.

  • Joseph

    The clear solution to this type of problem -to the savants running Illinois anyway, will be stricter gun regulations such as approval of the U.N. Small Arms Treaty, “Assault Weapon” ban, etc. Then, finally, when all of the guns forcing them to act out these “cries for help” have been eliminated, the troglodytes will have an epiphany and we can “..all just get along”.

    • Michael_C_Scott

      If and when the US Senate ratifies that treaty, my best friend will rearm me.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/XCNMNRYFG4X53ARYMNSQSCKYFI Stan

      How about they try to track down the illegal gun suppliers? Am I missing something? Someone has a crapload of guns that are somehow making its way into the hands of criminals. It seems a gun can be found like a cigarette. Well if it’s that easy, why don’t the feds follow the gun trail before they land on the street. Don’t wait until it’s too late and have small minded people again point the finger only at the criminal.

  • queens

    Isnt it odd Obama never mentions crime in his own city of Chicago? Its like its irrelevant and a moot point even though he is in the WH. And what are you gonna do about it anyway since he fails to talk about it?

    • Joseph

      His Dusky Hopefulness actually DID mention crime in Chicago in the later debate with Romney but only to use it as a platform to present the usual solution of banning handguns nationwide.

      • Joseph

        Fortunately, where I live you can with county permit, take your “150 dB personal alarm” with you to church, funerals & such which is why here, you really don’t need to.

  • StillModerated

    Gosh, those die-verse negroes and their fun monkeyshines! It seems to me that a few short months ago, I read on this blog of gunplay at a baby shower — quite possibly the most trivial of celebrations. Let’s just chalk this event up as a routine “goodification.”

    The only thing that surprised me was the Catholic Church part. Had this shooting occurred at an AME Zion, or a COGIC, or at the First Tried Cornerstone Apostolic Fire Baptized Temple of Saint Martin Luther King — then I would not be in the least bit surprised.

    • Alex

      I was thinking the same thing too. American blacks are hardly ever Catholic.

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Bardon-Kaldian/100003542251801 Bardon Kaldian

        These guys are not Catholics. Read the entire article. It just happened near the Church. Some pastor officiated at the funeral in the Protestant Church next door.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_WP6FBJWJYEU7S6TMNJS5D2BB5M Luis

    Naturally, the city will blame “easy availability of guns” for this episode, not on the criminals themselves.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/XCNMNRYFG4X53ARYMNSQSCKYFI Stan

      Obviously, guns don’t belong to everyone. Mental illness is much bigger than we think. I believe anyone interested in obtaining a gun should go through some kind of screening. Not only a criminal background check but a mental screening in some capacity to see if they are capable of possessing a gun for protection in their household or their job if one requires.

  • Michael_C_Scott

    The expectation by liberals that whites somehow give up guns for blacks is the same utter nonsense as the expectation by liberals that the US could give up weapons for the USSR or that a sober individual could somehow give up booze for an alcoholic spouse.

    It’s interesting that GD members make up about 1/4 of the Chicago homicide victims; it sounds like joining a gang is unsafe (who’d have thought?) Does anyone suppose that Eric Holder will consider cracking down in street gangs by using RICO and terrorist (Patriot Act) laws? I didn’t think so, either.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Bardon-Kaldian/100003542251801 Bardon Kaldian

    These guys have no style. They try to imitate legends of the (g)olden era- Dion O’Bannion, Al Capone, Hymie Weiss, Jack McGurn, Bugs Moran,.. Ts, ts…
    No style.