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Birth defects are sometimes impossible to fix. Taking Dr. Rice at her word, maybe her people should separate themselves from the incorrigible whites and their “defected” founders.
Posted by Question Diversity at 8:02 PM on March 28
So, what, she’s giving B’lack O’rama a “shout out” now?
Blacks should be more cautious about bringing up this so-called “original sin”; whites in the future might begin to think critically about how to fix that mistake, or at least begin to understand the rhetorical value there.
I mean, how does one make up for the sin of bringing them here in the first place, if they insist upon restitution? It doesn’t take a genius to start thinking about repatriation.
To put it in a nice down-home kind of way: don’t cry over spilt milk if you’d cry twice as hard if someone cleaned it up. Just shut your yap and thank your lucky stars.
Posted by Svigor at 8:13 PM on March 28
““What I would like understood as a black American is that black Americans loved and had faith in this country even when this country didn’t love and have faith in them—and that’s our legacy,” she said.”
Really? How about backing that up with some examples instead of empty talk? Most of us still don’t have any faith or love for your kind no matter what the media says. The only thing keeping blacks semi placated is the generous welfare state and government entitlements. Once those stop, and they will very soon, we’re going to see a massive outpouring of “love” and “faith” for this country.
Posted by at 8:15 PM on March 28
Just more racist comments from an Affirmative Action, status hire. How does it make Condi feel that shes where she is because of her color? And not only that but to serve under the most ignorant president that wasn’t elected to the office. I wonder what Condi does for her black community to make it better. There are plenty of needy black children in Washington D.C. that need mentors. Get at it Condi! Quit yer whining!!
Posted by Kellie at 8:18 PM on March 28
I’m afraid Ms. Rice is inaccurate when she states that blacks were part of the founding of this nation. The USA’s origins are one hundred percent European/Caucasian and I am a bit weary of the black race taking even partial credit for providing an undergirding. The truth is, it could have, would have, and should have developed without any “assistance” from Africans. Regarding her remark that they had faith in this nation all along, all that we need to remind ourselves of are the comments of Venus and Serena Williams’ father, BHO’s pastor, and countless more to realize the fallacy/fantasy of that statement.
Posted by Jan L. at 8:25 PM on March 28
Did Russian President Putin keep Rice waiting for 1 1/2 hours because he was busy or was this a diplomatic slap in the face at the audacity of the US to send this person as an emissary?
Posted by To the right of Atillia at 8:48 PM on March 28
No, Condi. Blacks were never the “founding population”! They were NEVER meant to become citizens, either. Here she is Secretary Of State and she still has a chip on her shoulder. I don’t care how much White America does for and gives to Blacks, it will never be enough. There is no living together in the same Nation, as Lincoln stated.
Posted by at 9:03 PM on March 28
If Ms. Rice thinks whites don’t endure humiliations in this country, she’s probably never been to sensitivity training.
Posted by Dwayne O. at 9:04 PM on March 28
It looks like Condoleeza has the tribal impulse after all. Like the race hustlers, she believes that blacks have a corner on suffering and is now singing that distorted song. Too bad.
Scratch any respect I had for that woman.
Posted by Proactive at 9:05 PM on March 28
This reminds me of silly feminist congressman Pat Schraeder upbraiding her fellows about not celebrating the founding “mothers”. Have the perverts been clamoring for recognition of history’s great perverts yet? Maybe they’ve already started, and I’ve blocked it out.
Rice is correct that slavery was a birth defect of our country. Slavery should have been abolished and blacks removed from our land in 1787, not just because slavery is a grievous sin, but because of the detrimental effect mixing two peoples so radically different can have on both populations.
Posted by Flamethrower at 9:05 PM on March 28
Is it time to remove this defect with a sharp scalple. Maybe the North should have let the South Go. The only solution to Rice’s predicament is to have allowed the South to leave the Union. Its time to divide this nation into two nations. Lets start doing it.
Posted by the Soviet Republic of New Jersey at 9:09 PM on March 28
I think Condi lost friends in that bombing of a Baptist church in Alabama.
Posted by at 9:12 PM on March 28
Wrong on every count, “Condi!” What makes it hard for us to confront race as an issue, is the mortal fear of being tagged a vile bigot, losing one’s job, alienating family and friends, baeing blacklisted, threatened etc., for daring to speak the truth.
Beyond that I find her gross over-generalizations and over-simplifications of the race issue nauseatingly offensive. Typical Washington blather…
Posted by HH at 9:19 PM on March 28
“Miss Rice also said that what “attracted” her to candidate George W. Bush during the 2000 presidential campaign was not foreign policy, but his “no child left behind” initiative, which she said gave equal opportunities to black and white students.”
No child left behind, head start program, more teachers less pupils, tutors for blacks, on and on and on it goes with every single black in this country, whining for some kind of program to try to uplift blacks to a level with whites, calling the failed efforts and proposed new ideas “equal opportunities,” instead of what they really are which are desperate attempts to try to elevate a people who cannot be elevated any further than they are right now.
Because blacks do not have the mental equipment to compete with ALL the other races in this country, blacks like this Rice and Barack Hussein claim their failure is due to some kind of systemic racism, slavery 200 years ago, white oppression, and they, and all other blacks, have a plan which will allow blacks to succeed. The only problem is none of these plans will elevate intelligence, which is the elephant in the room no one dares to talk about. It is necessary to play, “Let’s pretend blacks are equal,” or they will get their feelings hurt like the children they are, riot, and we will have a civil war to contend with.
Vast evidence revealing that blacks can’t cut it in competing with ALL the races within this country is ignored in favor of embracing a delusionary vision that blacks are only incompetent because of some reason other than their lower than average intelligence level.
And this deficiency is only noted in terms of black versus whites, carefully avoiding the fact that ALL the races are surpassing blacks and the white/black gap is also an East Asian/black gap, a Hispanic/Black gap, and a Middle Easterner/Black gap, an Indian/black gap, a Pakistani/black gap, a Southeast Asian/black gap. Though blacks are behind all these groups it is never mentioned nor even hinted at in any data coming out on racial disparities in education.
And, of course, the reason we never hear such comparisons is because it would completely delegitimize the base of black whining, since most of the people in these groups were poorer than blacks when they got here and many certainly suffered true hardships recently and not imaginary ones, like slavery 200 years ago, in an effort to hide their incompetence, as blacks do.
These other comparisons aren’t mentioned because it would destroy blacks’ victimization status.
So on we go with with our horrendous black problem of sky-rocketing crime, causing our schools to be dumbed down and causing the institution of a racist policy of affirmative action in schools and employment, which is grossly unfair to whites.
If anybody should despise slavery and the slave traders it should be whites, because they have suffered having these people and their huge, numerous problems cause the degeneration of our society for every single year for decades now.
And with every year that passes we must continue to pretend as if they’re equal to all other races and continue pretending their failure and lack of intelligence is due to injustices against them rather than speaking the truth and revealing the facts of the matter once and for all.
And that, of course, would be the only HONEST DISCOURSE ON RACE we could possibly have.
Posted by Robert Kelly at 9:22 PM on March 28
That’s all very nice. Now please tell me what should be done to get African-Americans to:
1. Study instead of dropping out (this problem is not caused by whites)
2. To marry instead of having children out of wedlock (this problem is not caused by whites)
3. To stop commiting crimes and stay out of prison (this problem is not caused by whites).
You can blame whites for slavery for the rest of eternity if you want. It still won’t remove responsibility from African-Americans for their own actions in the 21st centry.
Posted by Reader-1 at 9:28 PM on March 28
Could Mr Taylor please address this issue? I’ve often wondered: Just how great (or not great) was the contribution of Blacks to the “creation” of this country?
Surely, having black labor was beneficial to certain segments of the economy. But how beneficial was it? And considering what Black crime would cost America years later, what “costs” do we subtract from this benefit? (while adjusting for the time-value of money/labor of course)
Clearly, although Whites did practice slavery, they did not “need” slavery to build the country. They COULD HAVE done the work themselves, although things might have taken a few years longer to develop.
Conversely, I don’t think that a nation of Blacks would have built the Golden Gate Bridge or launched any space shuttles or invented any of the great products (televisions, cars, etc) that made America what it is.
So what ARE the numbers? I think it would make a great article - perhaps a “three-parter” in the pages of American Renaissance?
Posted by Bannister at 9:29 PM on March 28
Oh Great! Yet another black jumps on the bandwagon! Wright, Obama, Whoopi, Rice…
Who are the real racists in this country? Seems like they’re all crawling out of the woodwork now…
Posted by Jackers at 9:40 PM on March 28
I have met Church people that have been to the motherland Africa and heard tales of how terrible and dangerous it is in real life. If Condi,Al and Jesse lived there for three months they would wish they had a Rebel flag to wave and a drive-through to fly it in.
Posted by Mark Randolph at 10:15 PM on March 28
Wow, old Condi is just like all the rest, moaning and groaning about how bad she has it here. Would she do better in her country of origin? Maybe these people should start thinking about going back to their countries of origin since they are all so upset and miserable living here with the nasty, White, birth defects. I for one would love to see all of them in their own country somewhere far from me. I wouldn’t even care if they had it better, just away, gone, out of sight.
Posted by BettaFish at 10:24 PM on March 28
“The true reason of Ms. Rice’s attack against Russia is very simple.
Condoleezza Rice is a very cruel, offended woman who lacks men’s
attention. Releasing such stupid remarks gives her the feeling of
being fulfilled. This is the only way for her to attract men’s
attention.”
—- Vladimir Zhirinovsky
Posted by Lynx at 10:42 PM on March 28
The problem with that argument is that blacks are the same in every country with every background and in every period of history. If black woes were due to slavery and racism then africa should be a black paradise african americans would be running to as fast as possible. Since the US is a good place for them and african countries are mostly hell holes, this obviously isn’t the case.
Posted by at 10:46 PM on March 28
The blacks who were the founding population were “pure” African blacks. When I say “pure” I mean as pure as they come. Today’s American blacks are generally mixed. So whatever Rice says about whites applies to herself as well - after all, she is surely part white. If actions speak louder than words then American blacks have spoken by choosing white/ Asian girlfriends and wives. This is what they have said, “we consider out mixed children to be black because being black is most advantageous for them. We choose to ignore our white heritage because that heritage is inconvenient for us”. In other words being black is now “better” than being white so it is whites who should be complaining, not blacks.
Posted by jewamongyou at 12:05 AM on March 29
“Black Americans were a founding population,” she said. “Africans and Europeans came here and founded this country together
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as any non-guilted white knows this is a total lie and complete historical fantasy. blacks had NOTHING whatsoever to do with the founding of the united states. NOTHING. and furthermore a ‘founding population’? what does this mean? blacks were ‘found’ by whites in the african continent and were subjected to total conquest by the white race through slavery to serve the white race.
black people became a ‘founding population’ as their race seed was planted within the united states and in time grew to become a ‘nation within a nation’ in that sense this is a correct statement.
any notion that blacks as a race are in any way equal to whites in contributory manner to the historical record is pure fiction and multi-culti-diversity fantasy.
the very fact that blacks ‘home-invaded’ (forced integration into white society) themselves into white society makes it quite clear that were it not for the benefit of the white race (and their prosperous and safe cities and rich opportunities) that they so love to hate and their skillful and manipulative use of their all powerful weapon of ‘white-guilt’ that has brought to them undeserving black skin privilege at the expense of more deserving and more highly qualified whites, blacks left to themselves (and their impoverished cities) would be as helpless and as hopeless a race as one can only imagine.
are black people really so helpless though? there is much early history (before the civil rights fraud era) of black people developing a vibrant middle class and even some among them rising to wealth. but it all comes back to the civil rights fraud that gave rise to the socialistic and cult of personality mindest that took over center stage within black society.
the black martyerd and sainted diety of martin luther king made such a bellowing appeal to the white race to have the black race judged by the content of black character and not by the skin pigmentation of the black race. i think we all (the non-guilted white world) know by now what a ruse and a fantasy-lie that has degenerated into. most black people (certainly by no means all of them) have no desire to be examined on the basis of character but desire to be thought of entirely as being eternal victims of their white racism myth that they have constructed for their self-pity parade.
only within the fantasy mind of condolezza rice and those guilted whites bowing before her is she free to construct such black founding fantasy myths.
Posted by mrJAXX at 12:16 AM on March 29
“Whites did practice slavery, they did not “need” slavery to build the country. They COULD HAVE done the work themselves, although things might have taken a few years longer to develop.”
Kind of the way the North drug along in the shadow of the South for so long?
Posted by at 12:24 AM on March 29
The black presence was irrelevent or at least incidental to the creation of the United States. As for Condoleeza Rice she is easily the most inept and incompetent Secretary of State ever.
Posted by at 12:43 AM on March 29
“Clearly, although Whites did practice slavery, they did not “need” slavery to build the country. They COULD HAVE done the work themselves….”
Bannister
What do you mean by “could have”? They (we) DID do the work themselves! The simple fact is that an overwhelming preponderance of this country was built by whites alone, and blacks weren’t even in many of our northern states and cities until recent generations - at exactly which point they began their present decline.
Posted by at 1:37 AM on March 29
As someone who lived in South Africa until we escaped in 1999 five years after the Marxists came to power, we met a nice black American there from Houston, and as he helped us in the street, we invited him to a planned barbecue with about 40 other friends. There he admitted that he was there in Africa to find business and that he thought it would be an advantage as he was also black. but he also said that he was amazed that the African blacks were nowhere the same as the US ones. He did not find any business as he did not believe in bribery and corruption and had problems “communicating” with the local blacks although they all spoke perfect English.
I would like to believe that there are a lot of black people in te USA who work hard and have the same values as we do. Please tell me I am right. I know there are many who are the archetypal people explained here in AMREN, but there must be some good ones as I found in Africa.
Posted by Brian Deller at 4:37 AM on March 29
Real estate in Africa, in most of the numerous nations, is cheap & available. To any black from anywhere.
Read & study American history from the many high-quality books written pre-WWII, available in libraries. Try to ignore the PC liberal whinings.
Posted by Talking to a wall at 4:57 AM on March 29
Condi decries about the blacks brought to America in chains against their will but was an ardent and strong supporter of bombing Iraqis (non-whites)against their will.
She’s a hypocrite, if you ask me.
Posted by Tommy at 6:54 AM on March 29
“Africans and Europeans came here and founded this country together—Europeans by choice and Africans in chains. That’s not a very pretty reality of our founding.”
One half to two thirds of all white immigrants to Colonial America arrived as indentured servants. At times, as many as 75% of the population of some colonies were under terms of indenture.
Criminals convicted of a capital crime in England could be transported in lieu of a death sentance (for the theft of an item with a cost of as little as one shilling). Servitude also could result from indebtedness, where a person, their spouse or parents owed money, and the person was sold into servitude to recover the debt. In other cases, a parish indentured orphans in order to keep them off the poor roles. Plus, the poor sometimes sold themselves into indenture just to survive.
http://www.geocities.com/nai_cilh/servitude.html
Indentured Servitude in Colonial America
Posted by at 7:16 AM on March 29
Please read “Out of America”, written by a black journalist whose life’s desire was to visit “mother” Africa as the race hustlers, such as Je$$e Jack$on spouted for years. This journalist finally did get his assignment to “mother” Africa. What he found there, he describes accurately in his book.
When he proclaimed “Thank God that 400 yrs ago my ancestors were brought to America in chains”, as he stood on a bridge in Africa and watched as body parts floated down river, he was thereafter labeled an “Uncle Tom.”
It is a very thought provoking book from a very honest black man.
Posted by Gayle Sollenberger at 7:59 AM on March 29
Sounds like the new black history taught in schools these days to revise history in pc. Thanks to GOP Bush administration speaking for making Rice and now Obama possible. Rice may be trying to get on the ticket with him as VP. Yea as a matter of their black ancestors from Africa discovered America after they sailed west across the Atlantic and landed in the Carribeans of what is now North America and set up shop.
They then went to Europe and rounded up white slaves and shipped them to America to work in the cotten fields and clean up their homes.
The later Civil War freed the white slaves from their black slave masters and they gained their liberation and have been trying to get ahead since in this non-white nation.
After the Messiah is elected in DC in November new more in depth history books will be used to prove America was always a black African nation and white European ex-slaves have no place in this black society and are all white trash to be raped murdered assaulted robbed and destroyed so the black race can take its rightful place as rule of the world since afterall the motherland of human civilization is Africa and Jesus was black.
Posted by at 8:09 AM on March 29
Now there is a wonderful alternative to the oppression and powerlessness Blacks experience in America and its only 500 miles away. Haiti has been run by blacks for blacks since 1801.
There are no whites telling blacks what to do unless you count the UN personnel distributing food packages. Haiti offers the freedom of $700 a year GDP, 45 year life span, highest AIDS rate, and lots and lots of tropical disease, and environmental ruin. No malt liquor though, and the TV sports selection is poor.
Posted by at 9:57 AM on March 29
Judging from her physical appearance and obvious intellect, there must have been a whitey somewhere in her gene pool. But even being a very successful black woman, she starts the typical black whine. Blacks have been given every opportunity to achieve something in our society and yet, so few have accomplished anything of note. And if they do accomplish something, they then start shooting their foot off with their mouth or with bad actions. The latter being very common among black athletes. Some blacks do appear to be very successful at providing secure jobs for members of our law enforcement communities though. So, in a round about way they are contributing something positive to American society.
Posted by at 9:58 AM on March 29
It looks like the neoconservative Condoleezza Rice is not substantively different in her delusional Afrocentric views than liberal race hustlers like Al Sharpton and Jesse (I wonder which corporation with deep pockets I’ll shake down this week?) Jackson. I am certainly not going to cut her any extra slack just because she is a Republican instead of a Democrat.
Posted by Old Victorian at 10:36 AM on March 29
Regarding:
I think Condi lost friends in that bombing of a Baptist church in Alabama. Posted by at 9:12 PM on March 28
Yes, this is true. The sense of grief and moral indignation she must possess is touching. And all those Iraqi children; killed, severely injured, orphaned, displaced, shell shocked, shell shocked for the rest of their lives. Did she shed any tears the night of Shock and Awe? Has she shed any tears since that night? I have. Many times.
I have share some liberal ideas. But I am not a hypocrite; I’m not naive. I am realistic. Most liberals I know are so far removed into the theoretical, they in effect live in a fantasy world of a utopian ideology. They are unsuspecting of the betrayal that awaits them.
Posted by at 10:37 AM on March 29
Condi is correct. Blacks were part of the birth-defect of this country. Unfortunately, their contributions were mainly in the service of the British and not the American Patriots. More than 10,000 blacks served in the British Army in America. General Clinton offered freedom, clothes, money and a musket to any black slaves that might escape to British lines. (Phillipsburg Proclamation)
Washington was strongly opposed to enlisting free blacks or slaves in the Continental Army. Still, many of the states (except the Carolinas and Georgia), desperate for men managed to mix a few into the ranks, often as laborers, musicians, cooks and orderlies. In states that had a draft and allowed the use of substitutes, some of the substitues presented were slaves.
Treason in this case was its own reward. When the British finally evacuated from the areas they occupied at the end of the Revolution, they left behind many of the blacks in their service. Some were returned to slavery when transported to the Carribean colonies. Some 2,000 were taken to Newfoundland and some of these finally made it back to Africa (Sierra Leone). Space aboard these evacuation ships was reserved primarily for British soldiers and their white Loyalists (who were taken to other British colonies). Smallpox and other diseases quickly reduced the numbers of blacks who were evacuated by the British and caused ships to be reluctant to take them on as passengers.
Before we get carried away with the slight contribution blacks made to the American Revolution, we need to subtract their services on behalf of the British. Unfortunately, this leaves them with less than nothing.
Posted by Memphomaniac at 10:59 AM on March 29
I would like to believe that there are a lot of black people in te USA who work hard and have the same values as we do. Please tell me I am right. I know there are many who are the archetypal people explained here in AMREN, but there must be some good ones as I found in Africa. Brian Deller
Yes, there are a lot of black people who are decent hard-working folks, particularly in the American South. Blacks really learn resentment from liberal whites and the controlled media. It’s interesting that blacks (excluding the big cities) are generally less hostile and affable in the former slave states, rather than the former Union/Yankee states.
Posted by Sardonicus at 11:24 AM on March 29
“Yes, this is true. The sense of grief and moral indignation she must possess is touching. And all those Iraqi children; killed, severely injured, orphaned, displaced, shell shocked, shell shocked for the rest of their lives. Did she shed any tears the night of Shock and Awe? Has she shed any tears since that night? I have. Many times.”
You claim you are not like your liberal friends, but after reading this, it sounds like you are almost no different. We aren’t in Iraq killing innocent people. The TERRORISTS came over and killed OUR innocent people, and now we are going back over there targeting the TERRORISTS. And the regime we are creating makes things much better and safer for the innocents over there you are refering to. How many innocent people do you think were killed under Saddam’s regime?
Us white people are so horrible aren’t we? Ever since Alexander the Great we have been going around the world inflicting evil on everyone else. I would say our people have done much more good than bad in the world, yet in your post you seem to imply otherwise and so do many other people on here when talking about the war, which is something I don’t understand.
You guys claim that we are more intelligent and more civilized than arabs, yet when it comes to the War in Iraq, you guys are so quick to spit on our own people, claiming that we are just as barbaric as the arab animals who came over here and attacked us. Stop spitting on our troops (who are mostly white). It is one thing to make the argument that we should be over here concerned with our own affairs, but it is another thing to be accusing our own (mostly white) troops of going over there and inflicting the same uncivilized and barbaric evil that their own third world garbage came over here and inflicted on us.
Seriously, I am getting sick of this. If you can’t say something nice about the military which keeps you safe and free, then don’t talk about it at all. All of that aside, I don’t understand how some of you consider yourselves part of our cause after reading many of your anti-white comments about the war.
Posted by Courtney at 11:41 AM on March 29
“We aren’t in Iraq killing innocent people. The TERRORISTS came over and killed OUR innocent people, and now we are going back over there targeting the TERRORISTS.”
Posted by Courtney at 11:41 AM on March 29
Courtney, with all due respect, it wasn’t Iraq (or Iraqis) that attacked the United States on September 11, 2001. The neocons may want you to believe that, but it is simply not true.
In regards to Condoleezza Rice, her rank hypocrisy is duly noted by yours truly.
Posted by Old Victorian at 11:59 AM on March 29
I think most whites are willing to step aside and let someone claiming the ability to do a better job give it a shot. The blacks have had every opportunity to show us up. Now we have to be adults and take back over and do the job correctly.
Posted by Mark at 12:15 PM on March 29
“And the regime we are creating makes things much better and safer for the innocents over there you are refering to. “
By starting a sectarian civil war?
And read “A clean break”. Certain elements in the American government having been chomping at the bit for a military invasion of Iraq years.
Posted by Danny at 12:39 PM on March 29
Mr. Deller, there are plenty of good blacks in America as there are in Africa. The problem is in the percentages. American blacks of the middle class have largely assimilated to American values with some serious exceptions: (1) they cannot admit that they are incapable of running major institutions without the help of white people, and (2) they cannot admit that their problems are largely of their own making.
It is not a problem in America (yet) because they do not have the numbers necessary to vote white people out and vote BEE in. I suspect that when it happens (and it will at current birth- and immigration rates) we will dissolve into the the many squabbling white parties there are in South Africa, unable to even protect isolated, elderly farmers.
Posted by Big Bill at 12:58 PM on March 29
Old Victorian and others,
You guys haven’t addressed my main concern. How can you call yourselves one of us when you are constantly demonizing a mostly white military more than you do the third world terrorists who came over here to us and started this whole thing? Do you seriously believe that what we are doing over there is just as backwards, barbaric and evil as what they came over here and did to us? If you do, not only are you ignoring facts, but you are being irrational and hypocritical. You must not love your own race.
It is ignorant to speak of the war as if we are attacking one specific nation state, so this argument that “the Iraqis didn’t attack us” just doesn’t fly. We are fighting an ideology that exists in more than one Muslim country. Are you on their side or are you on the side of Western Civilization? You guys disgust me.
Posted by Courtney at 2:04 PM on March 29
“To the victors go the spoils and the right to rewrite history.” As the white race backs down more and more from the onslaught of these races; we can realistically expect that more and more history will be rewritten to put the white race in an ever worsening predictament.
Eventually, if this goes on unabated, blacks, hispanics and other races will simply come to the conclusion that the white race must be eradicated from the human race.
Posted by at 2:18 PM on March 29
Courtney:
Iraq had absolutely NOTHING - repeat NOTHING - to do with Al-Qaeda or the attacks on September 11 2001. Absolutely NOTHING. Even the Pentagon officially admitted this after exhaustively studying more then 600,000 Iraqi documents. Invading Iraq did nothing and was never intended to do anything to protect Americans. It was part of the neoconservatives ideological agenda for supremacy. Google the project for the new American century. Over 4,000 American soldiers have been killed for nothing.
Posted by at 2:45 PM on March 29
Courtney, there are many, many “ideologies” that run counter to American ideals. Do you really want to attack all of those idealogues? Most of them are individuals who sit comfortably in the West and want to destroy it. They also include North Korea and China. Both of these nations have nuclear arms and have the conventional military power to dethrone us as the world’s empire.
I love and respect America’s military, as do you. But you need to understand that it is a tool, and all tools are meant to be used. The hand that currently uses the American military is misinformed and incompetent.
It is not America’s job to spread democracy to the world. Do you realize that most of the Middle East rejects democracy and resents us for trying to bring it to them? George Bush bought a failed vision and executed it in a ham-handed way.
You and I are on the same side. I know Irag war vets and have thanked them for their service. They are not the problem. The problem is the “geniuses” in Washington who think they know best where and when to risk our husbands’/sons’/brothers’ lives. This war was a mistake, and it’s not the soldiers’ fault.
Posted by at 2:59 PM on March 29
“What I would like understood as a black American is that black Americans loved and had faith in this country even when this country didn’t love and have faith in them—and that’s our legacy,” she said.
What she overlooks is that blacks actually had more love for this country in the pre-civil rights” era, before the liberals convinced them that all their problems were the fault of white discrimination. The more “love” and “faith” America proclaims for blacks, the less “love” and “faith” blacks seem to have for white America. Funny how it works that way. Blacks generally proclaim very little “love” and “faith” for this country nowadays, as others have pointed out, the most prominent recent example being Obama’s refusal to put his hand on his heart during the National Anthem.
Posted by Tim in Indiana at 3:10 PM on March 29
I have no love of Islam, but I believe the founding fathers might have had something to say about foreign entanglements. Pity that the powers that be can’t see past the ends of their wallets while tens of thousands of perfectly capable whites are used, abused, then finally spat out at the other end for people who treat them as a real-life chess set.
Posted by ODDL at 3:12 PM on March 29
I’m a regular white guy a month younger than Condi Rice. Like everyone in our age group—including Barack Obama and Venus/Serena’s dad—we’ve spent our entire lives with Affirmative Action and other measures intended to correct this “birth defect”.
Get over it, already! Much progress has indeed been made—and ought to have been after all the billions spent—but blacks as a group still lag behind. Why? Teenage single mothers and lack of a wholesome home environment, no work ethic, no self control or self discipline, glorification of know-nothing thuggishness, emotion trumping logic… THESE are the major reasons for black failure in this day and age, and they have zero to do with white people.
If Condi Rice is so smart, why’s she working for W anyway?
Posted by Kevin at 3:39 PM on March 29
I find Condi Rice a most interesting woman, since she appears to be a person of high intelligence and extraordinary qualifications, the latter gained well outside any affirmative action entitlement programs. She a marvellous pianist, speaks fluent Russian and is an expert on Russian affairs and history. No doubt she rues the day she ever got mixed up with the Bush administration.
Thus I was a little surprised to see her bringing up the “birth defect” of African slavery in American history, not because there isn’t an element of truth in it, but simply because two centuries later it’s utterly irrelevant. And to the extent that it’s constantly being used to foster a sense of entitlement and victimhood among blacks in America, it’s incredibly destructive.
I don’t know what American blacks are capable of (given recent history I suspect perhaps less than whites and Asians), but as long we continue to feed their sense of entitlement and grievance and act as though they’re owed something we’ll never find out.
Treating them deserving victims has wrecked the black family, destroyed black initiative, and made them the foremost criminal class in America.
Posted by john at 3:45 PM on March 29
“Seriously, I am getting sick of this. If you can’t say something nice about the military which keeps you safe and free, then don’t talk about it at all. All of that aside, I don’t understand how some of you consider yourselves part of our cause after reading many of your anti-white comments about the war.”
Courtney, you are not the only one who understands the heroic sacrifice that our troops are making in Iraq. I do too and I am proud of them. As for dead Iraqi children, it is better to be dead than to face the kind of future they would have had under Saddam Hussein. Our military makes every effort, even at risk of their own safety, to prevent civilian casualties, but people just don’t recognize this.
Nor does it particularly matter what ulterior motives certain higher-ups may or may not have had or how long they’ve been wanting to invade Iraq. That is nothing but a red herring. Not that I believe the conspiracy theories about “our” motives for invading Iraq, but even if they’re true it just doesn’t matter. If something good comes out of it because of the bravery and virtue of our soldiers, I say that’s great.
Don’t give up on Amren. I know people on this site have a blind spot on this issue, but if those of us who disagree stop participating, then theirs will be the only point of view that gets heard.
God bless our troops!
Posted by sofita at 3:53 PM on March 29
I’m sympathetic to Condi. Sympathetic in the sense that I too, if I were black, would be full of seething resentment and hate. It’s precisely because I’m sympathetic that I understand just how explosively dangerous blacks are at every socio-economic level. My sympathy causes me to try to lead my life as free of contacts with blacks as possible. Oh yes, I understand.
Posted by ricpic at 3:57 PM on March 29
Bannister,
A book called “Time on the Cross” examined the economic questions you asked about for both the slaves and the nation. The book was written by two economic and history scholars. And contrary to what is taught, they wrote that slaves on average had a diet that was better than that of many white workers in the North and many throughout Europe. Slaves often lived in better quarters than Norther Laborors. And slaves worked shorter hours and were often permitted to receive a part of the farms profits as an inducement to work. They also show that the Northern states that abolished slavery were better off economically than the Southern states that relied on slaves. Of course, slavery is still morally reprehensible and I am not trying to justify it. But the book did shatter a lot of myths that the media and high schools teach.
http://www.amazon.com/Time-Cross-Economics-American-Slavery/dp/0393312186/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1206822676&sr=8-1
Posted by at 4:56 PM on March 29
history wants us to forget that black Americans were free to fight in the revolutionary war against the British, the ones that fought, won their freedom and were given the now common “African American name” Freeman. I think most “African Americans” set out the civil war while whites won freedom for the rest of them.
Posted by at 5:30 PM on March 29
Throughout history people that have felt persecuted or discriminated against have moved to countries where they felt they would be better off. Many Africans are now moving to America to avoid the way they are treated in their own country, but no Africans are moving to Africa. Why?
Posted by Cliff Yablonski at 5:50 PM on March 29
“I find Condi Rice a most interesting woman, since she appears to be a person of high intelligence and extraordinary qualifications, the latter gained well outside any affirmative action entitlement programs. She a marvellous pianist, speaks fluent Russian and is an expert on Russian affairs and history.
Posted by john at 3:45 PM on March 29”
I’m afraid not John.
Her doctoral thesis was an absolute mess as proved in this review by Joseph Kalvoda http://archiv.vulgo.net/index.php?option=news&task=viewarticle&sid=1102
She cited discredited communist propaganda as fact amongst other things that would have seen the thesis thrown in the trash if it were written by a white.
Here’s Fred Reed’s take on Rice :
“And of course there is Kind Of Leezer Rice, the Secretary of State. Being non-male and non-white, she is slightly more sacred than God, if only in that she is allowed on federal property.
She is said to “speak Russian fluently.” Is there any evidence that she speaks it at all? Where are the publications to document her purportedly coruscating intelligence? Bookfinder.com produces only The Soviet Union & the Czechoslovak Army 1948-1983, noted for its poor grasp of historical fact.
I asked an academic friend about this, and he responded, “I checked a couple of computer databases for scholarly articles by Dr. Rice and couldn’t find any. My suspicions were further aroused by the fact that of all the adoring articles I found about Dr. Rice (including her official curriculum vitae on the White House web site), none listed any scholarly publications apart from the aforementioned book.” Oh.”
She was admitted into Stanford ahead of more qualified applicants and actually had her department created for her in order to justify employing her. She was given the position of provost depite having never served as Dean and acted like a total tyrant during her time in power.
To get a real look at her read the Confidant by Glenn Kessler. Its a real eye opener.
Posted by Danny at 6:07 PM on March 29
“Do you seriously believe that what we are doing over there is just as backwards, barbaric and evil as what they came over here and did to us?”
Well, we’ve murdered (depending upon different estimates) roughly 600,000 Iraqis, caused hundreds of thousands more birth defects by using depleted uranium weapons that will continue to pollute the environment in Iraq for the next million years, have instigated civil warfare in a divide and conquer strategy that will have ramifications into the next century,
by the way, the 600,000 killings at today’s FBI statistics would take black people roughly 1,200 years of killing whites to manage.
So why don’t you answer your own question.
Posted by at 6:21 PM on March 29
blacks were never a “founding population” in the US in any significant sense of the term. Clearly, Ms. Rice has not benefited much from her affirmative action education.
The utter ingratitude of Rice and her ilk who have directly benefited so much from affirmative action in continuing to condemn the US is breath taking. Yes it would have been much better if the South had won. I cannot imagine any successor to the Confederate States ever freeing the slaves. There are a great many current problems which we would not have today if the South had won…think about it for a moment.
Posted by at 7:43 PM on March 29
The first spinster thinks America has a national “birth defect” about race and that Africans founded this country. I must have missed that part of the Mayflower story… She thinks that because slaves “did not get much a head start” has an impact on people today. How interesting that she thinks certain populations should have a head start. Affirmative action and reparations will never satisfy these fools.
If America is such a terrible place, I invite any “African-American” to leave for their mother country (as Obama’s pastor cheers from the pulpit each Sunday) to live amongst their own kind. You can see what a utopia Africa is and why they would want to go there.
One last parting shot…isn’t Condi stating America has a “birth defect” just as bad as G-damning us, as Obama Hussein’s pastor does? Let’s see if anyone in the MSM puts those two and two together.
Posted by Renae at 7:45 PM on March 29
John:
I probably agree with most of what you wrote, John, but, with all due respect, I don’t consider Rice anything exceptional in the world of educated people. For much of her life she was a professional student.
It’s my belief that anyone with average intelligence can gain considerably if they apply themselves dilligently enough and have the time to do so. Many who have been fortunate enough to be in the same position are accomplished musicians and are far and away above her intellectual level. Quite frankly, I’m not impressed with her at all, especially in her present position, which I think she’s unqualified for. She’s certainly not a deep thinker, but then again, I think she can be legitimately considered to be above Bush. (Hardly a big deal, though, considering his intellect.)
I listened to her carefully during her interview with Bill O’Reilly, and I have to say she came across as kind of dim in her attempts to explain several points, and a couple of times she really sounded oafish and naive, and a bit dimwitted also, when she attempted to spin a couple of items regarding the rush to war in Iraq. She is good in general conversation, though, and oftentimes being articulate will pass for intelligence until an inability to properly grasp concepts and abstract reasoning is revealed.
This probably sounds like I dislike her and want to play down her abilities because she’s black, but that’s not the case. Like most all blacks, when you get into really who she is, you find out how overated they are, and the high opinions are probably due to everyone’s low expectation of black ability. When one is found who can talk half-way intelligently most people automatically consider him/her a genius.
I mentally tried to compare here with James Baker and comtemplated what kind of replies he would give to the same answers, and it was obvious she’s in over her head.
Posted by at 8:01 PM on March 29
She is definitely a product of our culture of over-simplification.
As if ALL Whites are the same. As if all Whites are one big extended family. When Jared Taylor says we’re an extended family he is using it as a construct. We do not stick together like a Family. Actually, not even White families stick together. An obvious fact with equally obvious and devastating consequences that Whites and everyone else STILL don’t want to talk about. Even he would admit that. Of course, to anyone who has been paying attention, Whites are hands down the MOST diverse Race there is.
But that aside; we have a BIG obvious problem here. There are practically NO surviving direct descendants of Slave Owners. Nearly ALL White people today are from the big wave of immigration from the Potato famine to the turn of the century and the few million Whites who came over after that.
NONE OF US ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR SLAVERY - AT ALL! It is a LIE!
The ONLY things they have to control us are the old - OLD - standbys of Guilt and Duty. In this case, Guilt for the Past, and Duty to right the wrong.
I feel ZERO guilt. I am the descendant of Potato farmers and Factory workers. The Irish were tyrannized by the English twice as long as Blacks were slaves. I have NO resentment because resentment is unhealthy. Nothing burns one up faster than the effects of resentment. That aside, I have a right to my own life. Life for everyone is short and you only get one. I will NOT waste it playing the scapegoat.
JUST SAY NO!
Posted by Dedalus at 8:54 PM on March 29
A very important, perhaps the most important, difference between Whites and Blacks for me is this. All instincts that don’t discharge themselves outward, turn inward. When this happens with Blacks it becomes resentment and ends in violence.
When it happens with Whites it becomes soul-searching and ends in a desire for Freedom. Look at us from Greece, Rome, Christianity, the Nation-State and the Soverign Individual, which is the crowning acheivement of Mankind.
The problem is this - Qualitatively Whites have been deteriorating as a Race. Just look at the first four Presidents, and then look at the last four.
And since Whites were the Race of Western Civilization, that Civilization is now deteriorating BY RACE.
For us, rehibilitation is possible; but NOT without seperating from the hostile forces that surround us now.
Whites as a Culture have everything we need to keep us going and will be strong enough to absorb those who are symptathetic to our principles. There are not many of them, but they are there and they should be welcomed. I know some here do not agree. But I am pretty confident that such people still believe in Freedom of Speech enough to debate the matter or persue the discussion elsewhere.
As it is now the one sure way of seperating people from one another is this; Civilization is not something you hold on to, it’s something you uphold. We need to seperate those who place demands upon themselves, from those who place demands on others.
JUST SAY NO TO A CULTURE OF CODEPENDENCY!
And don’t simply point the finger at Blacks. Whites have this problem with themselves in their own families. Lets start with ourselves.
Posted by Dedalus at 9:08 PM on March 29
““Africans and Europeans came here and founded this country together—Europeans by choice and Africans in chains.”
Miss Rice. needs to go back and read her early American history and not the Black version of it. Its seems the 60-75% of the Europeans had little choice but to come here.
“Most of us imagine that the early colonists were a group of middle class white people fleeing religious oppression. Nothing could be further from the truth.
“Between 60% and 75% of immigrants into the English Colonies were indentured servants. Until the mid 1600s, even immigrants of African origin usually came to the Americas as indentured servants. America’s indentured servants came from a variety of sources. Some volunteered to escape poverty. Some were shipped to America as punishment for not paying debts or for being chronic beggars or vagrants.
Once in America, indentured servants were sold to colonist for between 25 and 50 dollars and they were then indentured for seven to fourteen years. Upon completion of the “contract”, the servant would ideally be given a small grubstake and, if he or she was lucky, a few acres of land. While many servants were treated fairly, many more were cheated, abused and then punished when they objected. The main avenues of escape for most indentured servants were to flee to another colony or join one of the Native American tribes. If captured, the servant usually had their “contract” extended.”
http://www.boisestate.edu/socwork/dhuff/us/chapters/chapter%202.htm
Posted by Drifter at 10:27 PM on March 29
Courtney(and others thinking this way)
I have heard many, many creative and fascinating rationales for why this boneheaded and tactically disasterous invasion and occupation of Iraq was the “right thing to do.” But alas, I must admit, attributing or likening Bush’s middle-eastern follies to some honorable action in some White “cause” you mention is as uniqely inventive as it is foolish. I believe you have listened to far too much talk-radio, Fox News Channel, etc., or with all due respect, are just painfully confused in general.
Presuming your bizarre assertions are motivated by a hatred of the political Left(a sound position I might add), do yourself a favor and at least pick up a legitmate Conservative publication like The American Conservative, or read some work by Patrick Buchanan, Justin Raimondo, etc. See how real conservatives think and feel about Iraq, “terror” and the like.
Neoconservatism, and mainstream “movement” conservatism for that matter is, when all is daid and done, as virulently anti-White as the most devout liberalism. If you haven’t figured that out yet, then you may do well to read and understand much more about the real dangers facing the White race, and preach and lecture us less about all this jingoistic uber-patriotic twaddle.
Posted by HH at 10:29 PM on March 29
“…the third world terrorists who came over here to us and started this whole thing? Do you seriously believe that what we are doing over there is just as backwards, barbaric and evil as what they came over here and did to us?…”
Courtney, again, with all due respect, I must disagree completely with you.
After all the hysteria and hyperbole of 9/11, the late Harry Browne wrote these SANE words:
“…The terrorist attacks against America comprise a horrible tragedy. But they shouldn’t be a surprise.
Our foreign policy has been insane for decades. It was only a matter of time until Americans would have to suffer personally for it.
When will we learn that we can’t allow our politicians to bully the world without someone bullying back eventually?
President Bush has authorized continued bombing of innocent people in Iraq. President Clinton bombed innocent people in the Sudan, Afghanistan, Iraq, and Serbia. President Bush, senior, invaded Iraq and Panama. President Reagan bombed innocent people in Libya and invaded Grenada. And on and on it goes.
Did we think the people who lost their families and friends and property in all that destruction would love America for what happened?…”
And this:
“…When will we learn that ‘teaching someone a lesson’ never teaches anything but resentment – that it only inspires the recipient to greater acts of defiance.
But what about the American presidents who order bombings of innocent people – while the presidents remain completely insulated from any danger? What would you call their acts?…”
http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=24444
“…If you can’t say something nice about the military which keeps you safe and free, then don’t talk about it at all…”
I thought this is supposed to be a free country in which everyone was allowed to speak his mind.
The ONLY solution is this:
“…The US must get out of Iraq soon, but if it does, Iraq and very likely the whole Persian Gulf will explode…there are only three possible political conditions, liberty, tyranny or chaos. When a population is not dedicated to a legal system based on the two fundamental laws, their only choices are tyranny or chaos.
The invasion was the easy part….”
http://www.chaostan.com/nxnet/APR08EWR.pdf
http://www.chaostan.com/Oct01_EWR.html
http://www.chaostan.com/bulletin-050303.html
And again, I am aware that many who post on this site will disagree bitterly with my (and others’) views on US involvement in Iraq, and other areas of Central Asia.
But no one will convince me, ever, that it is in my best interest as an American mother to send my two sons into an un-winnable, endless, civil and religious war, 9,000 nautical miles from my homeland, fought by guerillas with sniper rifles, powerful IEDs and shoulder-launched missiles.
Bon
Posted by BonBon at 10:52 PM on March 29
“Black Americans were a founding population,” she said. “Africans and Europeans came here and founded this country together—Europeans by choice and Africans in chains. That’s not a very pretty reality of our founding.”
It’s also not accurate. I mean, how in the world can we have a Secretary of State SO ignorant of History, specifically, the Historical process?
You simply can NOT judge 18th Century men by late 20th, early 21st Century standards! This is In Your Face simple-mindedness.
Posted by Mal Evans at 11:07 PM on March 29
If blacks were truly equal, by this time, this nonsense would have ended. She would have nothing to say.
You have 2 choices. Admit blacks are mentally unequal to whites, or keep blaming whites for the failure of blacks. Thats it.
Who in their right mind who has any position of power or public or even private job is going to say blacks are unequal, it is career suicide at the present time.
So the black grievance goofballs will have the whole stage for themselves for a few more years, but how much longer until it is obvious they are not taking responsibility for their admittedly BAD behavior? They cant ride the grievance train forever.
Posted by at 11:36 PM on March 29
“Black Americans were a founding population,” she said.
Black Haitians were also, by her measure, a founding population. If black Americans had existed in sufficient numbers to run the white founders off the continent this country would also be 98% denuded, mired in abject poverty and a hell of a long way from white Europe on a cobbled-together raft.
Posted by at 11:49 PM on March 29
So if we read between the lines Condi is saying that Jeremiah Wright is right. Of course after the lies, misleading and false statements she made about Iraq I can’t say she has much in the way of credibility. I don’t expect any white government officials to rebuke her any time soon since they’ve all “gone native” on us. Besides it’s racist for any white person to defend the honor of their own people while it’s “courageous” for a minority to criticize and take cheap shots at white people and America.
Concerning the Iraq war, we have absolutely no business being over there. Our military does not exist to “spread democracy” to all corners of the globe and depose those that we deem tyrants. Iraq never threatened the U.S. and had absolutely no connection to the perpetrators of 9/11. China and North Korea had human rights records worse than Saddam’s Iraq and possess nuclear weapons but we didn’t attack them. When I come across mindless cheerleaders for this war it makes me wonder if there is any hope for this country.
American servicemen need to come home and guard America’s borders against the ongoing Mexican invasion and to root out vicious non-white gangs like MS-13.
Posted by Super Dave at 12:03 AM on March 30
Courtney;
“The Iraqis didn’t attack us just doesn’t fly”,,,
Yes it does Courtney, because, well, they DIDN’T attack us. By your logic in Dec 1941 the U.S. should have invaded Korea instead of fighting Japan, because they are also Orientals and live in the same area of the world as the naval dive-bombers that attacked Pearl harbor.
Sofita;
“As for dead Iraqi children it is better to be dead then to face the kind of future that Saddam had for them”.
WOW!! That sure is easy for you to say Sofita. Shouldn’t that be THEIR decision to live or die Sofita? Who exactly appointed you arbiter of life and death over the children of Iraq? Or its adults for that matter? We should not be inviting the world here. We should also not be invading the world either.
Posted by at 12:03 AM on March 30
REPLY TO COURTNEY:
Rice played her part exploiting 9/11 as a basis for war on Iraq. As for our troops, I have NOTHING disparaging to say of any of them. I did not want them to go there. I do not want anymore of them hurt or killed.
The subtle point of my post was to acknowledge the traumatic event of Rice’s childhood and yet seemingly impervious to the suffering and inhumanity inflicted upon others. That Hussein was tortuous of his own people is not disputed.
I encourage you to read more into the history of Iraq and that prior to Gulf I, the U.S. backed Hussein. During the 90s, while Cheney was CEO of Halliburton, he advocated lifting sanctions. Since the dictator’s demise, more Iraqis have been killed, injured, and displaced than during the years of his brutal regime.
Our troops are not responsible for any of this. Our leadership is though responsible for losing control of Iraq in a matter of weeks. Perhaps you still believe that this liberation thing is going well. Gotta love the no-bid contracts and whatever it takes to support our troops. Which we are not. No, in that area, the bean counters are very diligent.
That I visit Amren is because I have deep concerns that our own country is dangerously close to passing the point of no return. If I am sometimes called a liberal in expressing my views, I do not care. I have been called worse, like, ha, ha, a conservative.
Not at this forum but I have also been called a racist, a red commie bitch, a fascist, and a bleeding heart. It is a first that I have been called anti-white or accused that I think of our troops as anything less than honorable. I love them.
We are living in difficult times. There are many reasons to feel strained. Take care.
Posted by at 3:05 AM on March 30
Robert Kelly,
You write that all the racial groups in the U.S. are surpassing blacks on account of—as you put it—“their lower than average intelligence”.
All the groups you cite have self-selected in their migration to the U.S., so they are hardly representative of their populations. But assuming that they were all poor before they migrated to the U.S., as you claim, then one would be justified in comaparing the reported IQ scores of all those groups with that of U.S. blacks.
The average IQ of U.S. blacks over a 50 year span has been variously put at 85. Dickens and Flynn(2006) have note that their score of 85 has increased by some 5-6 points during the desegregation years post 1972.
But here are the IQs of the various groups you cite: West Asia(Middle East): 84, South Asia(India, Pakistan):81, South East Asia(Thailand, Burma, etc.): 86, Hispanics(Mexico, Central America, etc.): 84[note J.P. Hebert, “La Race et l’intelligence” reported a Mexican score or 83.
On the matters of education and IQ you might consult James Flynn’s 2007 text “Intelligence”. Much evidence is provided for his thesis that “intelligence”—as it is measured—is heavily influenced by the environment.
Posted by OCCAM at 4:51 AM on March 30
Jewamongyou:
Your first post above raises questions:
Where did U.S. blacks ever say or write that being black is more advantageous than being white? You say that blacks are also making soem kind of statement by the extent of their intermarriage with other groups. Yet according to the statistics blacks marry endogamously to the extent of more than 90%. Other groups—except Euro-Americans—surpass blacks by far in this regard.
You also say that the blacks who were transported to the U.S. as captives derive from “pure Africans”. This is a scientifically illiterate statement. Africans are genetically the most diverse people in the world so the label of “purity” is inaccurate. Furthermore, U.S. blacks are on average 83% African genetically—with some 25% showing European ancestry[the Native American genetic input is negligible]on the paternal side[Y chromosome analysis] and 5% on the maternal side[MtDNA chromosome].
This scientific evidence means, of course, that some 75-80%[note that phenotypical traces of Y and MtDNA would be erased after several generations on both paternal and maternal lines if the non-African lineage occurred only once]of U.S. blacks have no European ancestry. This is borne out by the fact that the major male and female haplotypes for U.S. blacks are E3a and L1 and L11 respectively.
Posted by OCCAM at 5:16 AM on March 30
“It is not America’s job to spread democracy to the world. Do you realize that most of the Middle East rejects democracy and resents us for trying to bring it to them? George Bush bought a failed vision and executed it in a ham-handed way.”
I have heard the arabs resent us for trying to bring them democracy. I have heard the arabs resent us because allegedly, we continue to let their cruel dictators rule over them. I do know one thing. These people are head choppers. And there seems to be a couple million of them that believe that head chopping fits in with their way of life.
Having been a proponent for our wars in Iraq, I don’t think our actions were totally flawed. It does seem to me though that Kuwait never did express enough gratitude for our having saved her. These people, the head choppers, appear to be on a path that involves chopping a lot of heads.
Posted by Drew at 5:45 AM on March 30
As for dead Iraqi children, it is better to be dead than to face the kind of future they would have had under Saddam Hussein?
Every Arab and African country faces the same future because of the people who make up those countries. You can no more improve those countries than improve black majority ran/populated cities of America.
It is also a cheap ploy to use the love of the troops as an excuse to force support of the war. How would you like it if I said, if you love the troops you would bring them home out of harm’s way.
John McCain said that U.S. troops could spend “maybe 100” years in Iraq. Incredible, he says we are winning but it could take a 100 years to finish the job. While we are invading the world our elites are doing their best to invite the third world. In 100 years there will no longer be an America left for whites.
What are we fighting for?
Posted by William Hope at 6:53 AM on March 30
It would have been nice to see Condoleezza Rice say something about the hatred towards white people coming from the pulpit no less…but what a fool I am…..she holds the same mindset as many others….
“That particular birth defect makes it hard for us to confront it, hard for us to talk about it, and hard for us to realize that it has continuing relevance for who we are today,” she said.
This goes to show you the psychological impact this identity politics of the 60’s had and still has on the minds of people….it is so ridiculous to say the least. Black American’s have been blessed by the same God that blessed America to become the last best hope for man on this earth but truth be told they take it for granted the same way white people do…to clarify the white people who hate America infect the mind of black Americans to also hate their country to further a particular political agenda. Things don’t just happen the truth is out there for those who can tell!
Posted by Lisette at 9:10 AM on March 30
Will someone explain to me why the black population has the same problems in Canada as they do here. There was no slavery in Canada as I recall.
Paul
Posted by Paul N at 9:20 AM on March 30
“Whites as a Culture have everything we need to keep us going and will be strong enough to absorb those who are symptathetic to our principles. There are not many of them, but they are there and they should be welcomed. I know some here do not agree.”
Dedalus,
I strongly agree with you. It’s never been a question of color but rather of behavior. Sadly with a few exceptions, the sane voices in the Black community remain silent when it comes to recognizing the problems created by the barbaric behavior of Black youth.
I’ve stated before that separation is quickly becoming the only key to survival for both Whites and Non- whites who do espouse by the principles set down by the founders. There will never be an all White America. That was decided when the first slaves were brought to North America and it was carved in stone when the Government passed up the opportunity to repatriate the freed men.
Posted by Taurus689 at 9:23 AM on March 30
The first spinster thinks America has a
Posted by Renae at 7:45 PM on March 29
What has her being unmarried got to do with anything?
Surely by saying that you are undermining your argument and showing your own petty prejudices? Im sure Left-wing Senator Barbara Boxer made the same pathetic argument.
Posted by at 9:33 AM on March 30
To sofita:”As for dead Iraqi children it is better to be dead than to face the kind of future they would have had under Saddam Hussein” I am not sure about that. Did dead Iraqi children have a choice? Had anyone asked them if they would’ve preferred death to life in Saddam’s Iraq? Your argument remind me of the one abortionists often make.
Posted by ALEX II at 10:05 AM on March 30
“On the matters of education and IQ you might consult James Flynn’s 2007 text “Intelligence”. Much evidence is provided for his thesis that “intelligence”—as it is measured—is heavily influenced by the environment.”
The environmental position gets weaker by the day, and the genetic argument becomes correspondingly stronger.
Posted by Cassiodorus at 11:11 AM on March 30
Occam go back and read my post more carefully. First of all, I qualified the description of African slaves as “pure” black saying “as pure as they come”. Seems you missed that part. Secondly, I pointed out that black choose white/Asian GIRLFRIENDS and wives while your retort conveniently mentions only marriage. The vast majority of couplings involving blacks do not involve marriage (which is common knowledge except to you). My point was that children of such mixed unions almost always consider themselves “black” and they are universally considered “black” by the black community as well. If being black was such a disadvantage, why would such people pick that identity? It is not imposed upon them by whites (contrary to leftist propaganda).
You state that some 75% of American blacks have no European ancestry. That is debatable at best but, even if it were true, it’s beside the point. The pattern is that those who have obvious European heritage choose to ignore that heritage and focus on their African heritage. Why?
Posted by jewamongyou at 11:29 AM on March 30
What she overlooks is that blacks actually had more love for this country in the pre-civil rights” era, before the liberals convinced them that all their problems were the fault of white discrimination.
Posted by Tim in Indiana at 3:10 PM on March 29
You said it…it is save to say that liberals have been doing this for more than 40 years pointing the finger at other white people and using the “racist” stick and beat them into silence . “The leftist churches have bestowed great influence and prestige on the inventor of black liberation theology. Black Americans have to rely on a separatist, rage-filled ideology supported whole-heartedly by white leftist churches.”
And it’s a time bomb waiting to explode. America is a blessed country…because the hand of the almighty showed us right where the racial divide that is criplling America comes from….the UCC, not to say that they are the only ones because they have fellow travels!
Posted by Lisette at 11:33 AM on March 30
I’m afraid not John.
Her doctoral thesis was an absolute mess as proved in this review by Joseph Kalvoda http://archiv.vulgo.net/index.php?option=news&task=viewarticle&sid=1102
Posted by Danny at 6:07 PM on March 29
That ‘review’ is ‘questionable’ at best. You will have to do MUCH better than that Dannyboy!
Posted by at 11:41 AM on March 30
Afro-Americans were “founders” of the USA, says Condoleezza Rice
Oh, dear, now we’ll have to change all the history books, Budweiser will have to put out another set of Afro-Anmerican “educational posters” for school use and, well you get the idea.
As for the American Whites “not loving” Blacks, well I have a few names for them: Jackie Robinson, Michael Jackson, Dr. Rice herself, Tiger Woods, Sidney Poitier, Harry Belafonte, the cast of “The Wire”, Black Entertainment Television, Bill Cosby, Samuel L.Jackson, Wayne Brady and the new Sunday night CW TV network lineup.
Oh, yeah, and there’s that guy with ancestors in Kenya who just could be president in eight months….
How ‘bout instead of spending the trillions it would take to appease Afro-Americans, here’s a few cheaper steps Dr. Rice should contemplate:
1) Go to hardware store, purchase roll of tape.
2) Apply tape liberally to lower half of her mouth.
Bob Smith, www.natparty.com/bobsbeat.htm
Posted by Bob Smith at 12:34 PM on March 30
“What are we fighting for?”
Greenspan said: “I am saddened that it is politically inconvenient to acknowledge what everyone knows: the Iraq war is largely about oil.”
http://www.smh.com.au/news/world/iraq-war-was-about-oil-greenspan/2007/09/16/1189881318032.html?page=fullpage
Two-thirds of the world’s oil reserves lie in the Middle East and increasing demand will have to be met with massive increases in supply from this region.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/world-oil-supplies-are-set-to-run-out-faster-than-expected-warn-scientists-453068.html
Posted by at 1:25 PM on March 30
“Will someone explain to me why the black population has the same problems in Canada as they do here. There was no slavery in Canada as I recall.”
Good point Paul, but remember these people tend to have lower IQ, and the evidence from cross-cultural studies is beyond their ken. The same problems occur to Blacks everywhere in the world including Africa. Liberia and Ethiopia, the only two places not colonized, blame their problems on the lack colonial support of Whites in the past!
Posted by factualist at 1:58 PM on March 30
I almost respected this woman until she opened her mouth about race. Here you have a privileged black female affirmative action quota in a job she’s totally unqualified for playing the same old victim/entitlement angle just like others of her kind. She seems to be saying that since they came here against their will, that we owe them big time. It reminds me of the sole black executive at the company I work for. He’s not allowed to make decisions for the company and the company hired someone to do his job for him. I wonder who’s doing Ms. Rice’s job for her?
Posted by at 2:05 PM on March 30
Blacks were actively involved in FOUNDING THE UNITED STATES? Must be pretty much like Blacks having been the FIRST to think up and invent anything and everything that makes today’s civilization and its benefits possible.
Rice’s statements are hardly surprising. The woman has had years of disseminating lies as George W. Bush’s lapdog. Taking her orders from her master and mouthing the words he put into her.
Posted by Fed Up at 2:06 PM on March 30
Late breaking news: Now Condoleezza Rice is telling us (like we didn’t know) how bad Robert Mugabe is:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,343308,00.html
This contradicts these “birth defect” statements. It seems that, in her own standards, all Mugabe did was to fix Rhodesia’s birth defect.
Posted by Question Diversity at 3:21 PM on March 30
“I encourage you to read more into the history of Iraq and that prior to Gulf I, the U.S. backed Hussein. During the 90s, while Cheney was CEO of Halliburton, he advocated lifting sanctions. Since the dictator’s demise, more Iraqis have been killed, injured, and displaced than during the years of his brutal regime.”
Well stated, anonymous poster. I don’t think anyone who posts here would dare argue that Saddam Hussein was not an evil, cruel dictator who mistreated his own people (especially the Kurds in northern Iraq). That said, he wasn’t a threat to the United States. There were NO “weapons of mass destruction.”
All of the empirical evidence I have read indicates that Saddam was basically a secular dictator in the Joseph Stalin mode. We didn’t militarily go after Stalin, did we? Quite the contrary. We were allies with the Soviets in WWII, ostensibly to counter the threat of the Nazis (and the Japanese). Indeed, FDR and Stalin were, by all accounts, behaving like best friends at the Yalta Conference in 1945.
On a more fundamental level, I can sympathize with what Courtney is saying. This war has taken a huge toll on working-class whites (a majority of the enlistees). I don’t mean to sound disrespectful of the enlisted forces or to play the “blame the victim” game, and I appreciate their efforts. But the bottom line is that these people voluntarily decided to join the military, and knew that they could sent to Iraq on a moment’s notice.
Posted by Old Victorian at 3:56 PM on March 30
“I strongly agree with you. It’s never been a question of color but rather of behavior. Sadly with a few exceptions, the sane voices in the Black community remain silent when it comes to recognizing the problems created by the barbaric behavior of Black youth.
I’ve stated before that separation is quickly becoming the only key to survival for both Whites and Non- whites who do espouse by the principles set down by the founders. There will never be an all White America. That was decided when the first slaves were brought to North America and it was carved in stone when the Government passed up the opportunity to repatriate the freed men.”
The reason we’re losing our freedom in this country and the Constitution being ignored is because the population is changing. Multiracialism is a hindrance to a Democracy and it will quickly devolve into either Marxism or Fascism. If we go the way of separation as you suggested, we can restore our government, our schools, our institutions and our freedom. It will give Whites hope for the future and a sense of controlling their own destiny. Bringing nonwhites into our territory, even those sympathetic to us, would be absurd. We would still have to grapple with entitlements, affirmative action, welfare, etc. I know for a fact that just because you have decent, hardworking, law abiding nonwhites doesn’t mean they’re children will grow up to be that way.
Posted by at 5:30 PM on March 30
Condi’s either being disingenuous in order to increase her “street cred” in the eyes of blacks, or she’s just another whining race baiter. Maybe it’s both. Leave it up to the idiot “Decider” Bush to appoint her to his cabinet. At any rate, Africans did not found this country. Most slaves came along several decades after the founding of the original Colonies. As for contributions that blacks have made to America - just look at South Africa after apartheid. It’s a crime-ridden hell hole. Pretty much the same for Zimbabwe (Rhodesia). James Watson was right: There’s no evidence to suggest blacks as a group are intellectually as capable as whites.
Posted by Cherusci at 5:33 PM on March 30
“Will someone explain to me why the black population has the same problems in Canada as they do here. There was no slavery in Canada as I recall.”
Paul
Posted by Paul N at 9:20 AM on March 30
You recall correctly of course Paul. In fact Canada welcomed the slaves who arrived there via the Underground Railroad/ Railway.
No good deed goes unpunished.
Do you happen to know how many slaves actually did make it to Canada. Some of their problems are caused by African immigrants.
Posted by at 7:52 PM on March 30
It’s interesting to consider the term used by Condoleeza Rice, “birth defect.” In a sense I believe she was right, and the horrendous Civil War, followed by the Civil Rights movement in the 1950’s and 1960’s, have been obvious signs that things are not right in U.S. society, and both did not correct matters for the future, despite all the misplaced optimism and idealism of both historical periods.
This is why the name of this site, “American Renaissance,” is so significant. It means that we need a “rebirth” of U.S. society. What are the roots we need to return to, in a similar way to what happened with the original Renaissance which took place in northern Italy in the Fifteenth Century?
I think we need to return to the roots of Western Civilization, a civilization which was principally created and developed by Europeans. As European-Americans, an embracing of Western Civilization again will stop the cultural genocide going on. From that point on, a reassessment of all that has taken place in our history will enable European-Americans to begin to regain racial pride in their heritage. When that takes place, anything will be possible.
Posted by Paul Jones at 8:56 PM on March 30
William Hope, you know, or should know, that McCain’s “100 years” comment has been grossly distorted and taken out of context. Obviously he wasn’t envisioning 100 years of war. He went right on to talk about how we’ve been in Japan and Germany and Korea for decades after achieving victory, and that hasn’t been a problem. The point he was making was that having soldiers in Iraq isn’t by itself a problem; the issue is; are we going to win or lose the war? Fair-minded people are able to concede this point. http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0308/9207.html
Pro-whites and race realists get enough grief and enough unfair flack; we should avoid doing that to others.
Posted by Irish at 9:24 PM on March 30
Blacks by and large want only the crumbs thrown from the table. They are not a real threat (other than street crime and rape).
The real threat facing whites is from Asia. Asians (Chinese, East Indians, etc.) are buying our companies, taking over our universities (incoming Freshman class of Berkeley is 47% Asian), and divesting us of our historical lands.
Posted by at 10:48 PM on March 30
Mr. Occam is putting too much faith in the power of social engineering.
The Flynn Effect as it purports to demonstrate that IQ or intelligence “is heavily influenced by the environment” can best be understood as the upper limits on what cultivation can achieve. The finding that some people can improve their IQ scores by undergoing a battery of environmental enrichment programs hardly warrants all the trumpet blowing that cultural engineers are doing.
The 5-6 point gain is done on the left half of the bell curve. This is because improving IQ is like losing weight. A fat person can lose that first twenty ponds easily, but once he gets down close to weight he should be, the fat is tough to get rid of.
Take an average black person (IQ 85), (or white with IQ 85) and you can pump his IQ up the 5-6 points by bombarding him with practice tests and placing him in a peaceful school that rewards learning. Give the same stimulus package to a person with a 115 to 145 IQ and higher and there’s going to be no increase in score. Thee people have already immersed themselves in the rich environment voluntarily already. Flynn and the social engineers would be doing themselves and America a big favor if they dealt honestly with the concept of potential. A person who scores 85 on the IQ test has the potential of scoring 91. With proper training Flynn could complete the Boston Marathon, but he’s not going to finish in the top 40%. Why bother?
People who are not smart have a strong tendency to fall into environments that cater to their not being so smart life styles. I suppose this is too abstruse an idea for Flynn and the multiculturalists to grasp. Introducing these borderline “special” kids to the ways of smart kids will have only a temporary effect. As soon as the choice between learning and vegetating presents itself the 85-90 IQ kids will revert to form.
Posted by P Noctura at 11:13 PM on March 30
I am surprised about the number of commenters who spent more time talking about why our motives were wrong for being in Iraq instead of addressing my main point. My main point is that whether you agree or disagree with our reasons for being over there, it is factually wrong to say that we are over there intentionally killing innocent people as they did to us over here. It isn’t only factually wrong, but it shows that you really hate your people and you also hate America to make such a blank accusation based on very little facts.
For those of you who DID address my main concern, I must say I am pretty disgusted by the answers I got. How can you say that we are intentionally killing innocent people over there? Whenever we have gone over there ever, it has been to target a certain group of people who we perceived as a threat. And that is why we are over there now. And there ARE terrorist cells in Iraq just as there are in Afghanistan (but that is one of the things we disagree on). Whether you guys think it is pointless or not for us to be targeting those specific groups is irrelevent right now in the context of this conversation at least. What I want to know is why you keep insisting that we are intentionally killing innocent people when there is no evidence that we are. That right there is where you are wrong and that is where you are disgusting me.
Posted by Courtney at 11:13 PM on March 30
“On the matters of education and IQ you might consult James Flynn’s 2007 text “Intelligence”. Much evidence is provided for his thesis that “intelligence”—as it is measured—is heavily influenced by the environment.”
Flynn is a leftist radical that desperately searches for minutia that can be stretched to fit his agenda. If environment influences intelligence at all its effects are so small as to render it insignificant.
However, anyone accepting this nonsense as favorable to blacks isn’t taking into consideration that no matter what environmental factors are present among blacks they still fail miserably. Poor whites score higher than blacks on not only I.Q. tests, but academic ones as well.
It’s really pathetic how blacks constantly seek absurd theories in order to try to elevate themselves, rather than accept the facts and resign themselves to at least trying to do better. But, instead, they constantly distort the facts in an attempt to make it appear as if blacks really are intelligent and have accomplished great things, but they go unrecognized because of white racism and oppression. This childish tactic, rather than fooling anybody serves only to lower black image among all peoples of the earth even more.
Low group intelligence among blacks is revealed most blaringly when they try to spin an issue, whether it’s their past accomplishments, their overall intelligence or whether they’re trying to disingenuously trying to convince everybody Reverend Wright really isn’t an anti-white racists that spews vileness and evil.
The only factor responsible in increasing black I.Q. scores slightly is the injection of white blood into their population. Take out the mulatto factor here in the US, and US blacks are at a 70-75 level I.Q., just as they are in their African motherland, the same motherland that Trinity United Church claims is home to all blacks the world over.
Posted by Ranger at 3:05 AM on March 31
“…this argument that “the Iraqis didn’t attack us” just doesn’t fly. We are fighting an ideology that exists in more than one Muslim country.” (Posted by Courtney at 2:04 PM on March 29)
But didn’t Saddam have that ideology thoroughly repressed in Iraq before our gov’t set fire to the country?
“…it shows that you really hate your people and you also hate America…” (Posted by Courtney at 11:13 PM on March 30)
Courtney, being labeled with the word “hate” for our differing views is something all of us, including yourself I’m sure, have experienced too often from those who oppose all of us.
“…you keep insisting that we are intentionally killing innocent people…”
I really don’t see any posters claiming that.
All of us are angry, and frustrated that our anger can’t presently flow in its natural course. And each of us feels isolated, so that everyone outside of our own self can begin to feel like an enemy, including even the people here who basically share our own concerns and views.
I don’t need to feel like everything white people have done, and are doing, is correct, in order to understand that I’m white, and therefore you and all the others here are the people I must work together with to find the way, and make the way.
We’re all only human. Please, loosen up a little. If you’ll read the posts again that you are differing with, I think you’ll see on a second and cooler reading that those posts are not saying quite what you read into them the first time.
Posted by H. Dumpty at 6:58 AM on March 31
Her doctoral thesis was an absolute mess as proved in this review by Joseph Kalvoda
Went to the review site and read it. Indeed, in a PhD Thesis, such blatant errors are inacceptable.
And her comment about “Czech and Slovak passivity, making the sad result of 1968 preordained” angered me the most. Czechoslovakia has to remain passive, because an invasion by the Warsaw Pact troops AND the refusal of the West to lend any support whatsoever made any other reaction a plain suicide.
And as I see, she converted the thesis into a book to profit from it twice. And she hasn’t written anything else since then, her articles being derived from the Thesis.
Oh, what an accomplishment.
Posted by EW at 8:17 AM on March 31
To those who believe that the NEOCONS were the driving force with ulterior motives behind the Iraq invasion, here is what Senior Weapons Inspector David Kay had to say before the Senate Armed Services Committee:
(i)“It turns out that we were all wrong, probably in my judgment, and that is most disturbing. ABOUT SADDAM’S POSSESSION OF WMD STOCKPILES.”
Wrong about Iran’s weapon’s program,
Wrong about Libya’s weapon’s program,
“There’s a long record here of being wrong.
There’s a good reason for it.
There are probably multiple reasons.
Certainly proliferation is a hard thing to track, particularly in countries that deny easy and free access and don’t have free and open societies.
In my judgment, based on the work that has been done to this point of the Iraq Survey Group, and in fact, that I reported to you in October, Iraq was in clear violation of the terms of [U.N.] Resolution 1441.
Resolution 1441 required that Iraq report all of its activities — one last chance to come clean about what it had.
We have discovered hundreds of cases, based on both documents, physical evidence and the testimony of Iraqis, of activities that were prohibited under the initial U.N. Resolution 687 and that should have been reported under 1441, with Iraqi testimony that not only did they not tell the U.N. about this, they were instructed not to do it and they hid material.
WHAT DOES THIS MEAN?
UNSCR #1441 was Saddam’s last chance, and he failed to adhere to its terms.
Saddam was in material breech of UNSCR #1141 and the preceding and relevant UNSCR’s which functioned as the armistice for the Gulf War.
By violating the armistice, Saddam caused a state of war to recur.
As such, the Iraq War was not preemptive based on lies or distortions, but a resumption of a war because the armistice was violated.
EVEN HANS BLIX AGREED:
Jan. 27, 2003 – After 60 days of inspections by U.N. officials, Iraq appears not to be cooperating with Security Council Resolution 1441:
“Iraq appears not to have come to a genuine acceptance, not even today, of the disarmament which was demanded of it and which it needs to carry out to win the confidence of the world and to live in peace,” chief U.N. inspector Hans Blix told Security Council members this morning”(i)
http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/01/28/kay.transcript/
For the most up to date opinion of American attempts to bring Democracy to the Middle East read the results of the March 08 poll at: http://hnn.us/blogs/entries/48552.html
(i)… All of that aside, I don’t understand how some of you consider yourselves part of our cause after reading many of your anti-white comments about the war.(i)
Courtney, I get a very strong feeling that a few of these people are not part of our cause. I agree entirely that one can be against the war for all sorts of reasons, but to accuse Americans of atrocities is unforgivable esp. as it’s the terrorists in Iraq who are killing innocents and its Americans who are trying to save them.
There are some people who are driven to distraction with rage that Sadaam’s Socialist regime was toppled by Capitalist American NEOCONS, they are still seething over the collapse of the USSR, they’re the needy types whose fixation on control, power and the need to be proven right consumes them 24/7. They will never ever see any good in any American endeavour because no endeavour enacted by a Capitalist can ever be good.
And just to demonstrate that I can be on topic, yes I agree Condi has done a poor job and she is in no position to complain and whine. Very disappointing both in her performance and attitude.
Also, I’m practicing with the hotmail tags to try and get better style with italics and so forth, so please excuse any oddities in my posts.
Arc.
Posted by Arcadian at 10:19 AM on March 31
Here is a view from Washington DC, where I live. DC is 65% black. Blacks have been the majority population since the Civil War. They own the place. They have had Government jobs, guaranteed incomes, free housing, schools, for 5 generations now. Armanis and Rolexs’s are standard uniform.Blacks who couldnt finish high school drive Mercedes and BMWs. And yet I have learned NEVER ask any black man or woman in any Government agency anything about their job. Never ask any question on how the agency runs, who does what, where something can be found.
They will not know and they can barely concetrate on the question when you ask them. The response will always be..”thats not my job” If a black voice answers the phone I have learned to politely hang up and keep dialing until I get a white voice on the line..then and only then will I find someone that can help. And yet on every black Government employees wall will be dozens of civil service awards, photos with the President etc
all telling them what a great job they are doing. The final kicker- on the license plate of all those Mercedes and BMWs is the District of Columbia’s motto…ready? “TAXATION WITHOUT REPRESENTATION”. As a Federal District they do not have a Congressman..but they have had oceans of money and jobs poured in their laps just because of that status. But still, still the self pity continues..they are “repressed”. The next step to helping blacks is supposedely to turn the Presidency over to them. Only then will there be “justice”. Want to see what a Obama-America will be like? Come to Washington DC.
Posted by at 10:20 AM on March 31
>>>the sane voices in the Black community remain silent when it comes to recognizing the problems created by the barbaric behavior of Black youth
No, they’re not exactly silent… It’s like Philly’s whacko Black ministers… instead of setting up and doing lots of hefty one-on-one counselling… they went off to Harrisburg with some half-baked additional gun-control nonsense. Begging the question, of cuss: WHEN WAS THE LAST YOUNG BLACK MURDERED ON PHILLY’S STREETS BY A RESPONSIBLE WHITE CITIZEN? Admittedly, lots of White citizens keep handguns — with damned good reason (an insurance policy)!
Maybe if those concerned Black citizens would get together, even knocking some young heads together, when necessary… and actively working with the gangstahs, a handful could yet be saved. Usually though, by the time they’ve hit their teen years, their brains are too scrambled with that trash [rap]] music, drugs and cheap alcohol and “Black culture,” to ever amount to anything worthwhile.
The “sane” (and that term might be used a bit loosely), people find it easier to rant about White racism and oppression. Or the need to SPEND MORE TAXPAYER MONEY on the Black community! You mean you weren’t aware, White racism and oppression made the inner-city toughs drop out of school by the time they hit their teens? (What truant officer is about to bother actually looking for them?)
White “oppression” makes these ghetto kids think getting an education is “acting White.” That pushing drugs, stealing cars and the occasional burglary or gang muggings of White victims is “acting cool.” Speaking of young Black criminals… I can’t recall EVER hearing Congolizza Rice speaking out about it… much less EVER touring any of those infamous northern inner-city schools and neighborhoods to actually talk with those Blacks in an effort to head them in a more positive direction. (Sorry, I forgot. Ms. Rice is too busy mouthing those endless lies promulgated by the Bush Administration. Maybe after January, 2009… then again (most likely), maybe not then either!)
Posted by Fed Up at 10:53 AM on March 31
