Freddie Gray Death: New Narratives Question Police Brutality Claim

Holly Yan, CNN, April 30, 2015

Two new accounts of what happened to Freddie Gray question the narrative that has fueled protests in Baltimore–the claim that Gray died as a result of police brutality.

The first comes from a relative of one of the officers involved in the arrest. She told CNN the officer thinks Gray was injured while he was being arrested–before he was put inside a police van.

The second is an account from a prisoner who was in the same police van, as published in The Washington Post. The prisoner reportedly told investigators he thought Gray “was intentionally trying to injure himself.”

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The woman who spoke to CNN did so on the condition of anonymity. She is related to the officer, but said the officer didn’t request the interview.

The relative said she worries all six of the officers who encountered Gray the day he was arrested will be incriminated, when only some might be responsible.

“Six officers did not injure this man,” she told CNN’s Don Lemon. “Six officers didn’t put him in the hospital. I’m worried that instead of them figuring out who did, that six officers are going to be punished behind something that maybe one or two or even three officers may have done to Freddie Gray.”

She also told CNN’s Anderson Cooper that the officer doesn’t know how Gray was injured, but said he believes it happened during the arrest

“He believes that Freddie Gray was injured outside the paddy wagon,” the relative said.

She also gave an explanation of why Gray was not buckled into the police van: he appeared belligerent.

“They didn’t want to reach over him. You were in a tight space in the paddy wagon. He’s already irate,” she said.

“He still has his teeth and he still has his saliva. So in order to seat-belt somebody you have to get in their personal space. They’re not going to get in his personal space if he’s already irate.”

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Wednesday night, protesters took to the streets Baltimore once again, demanding change and accountability for Gray’s death.

For the second night in a row, a 10 p.m. curfew went into effect. And for the second night in a row, the crowd dissipated peacefully, preventing a repeat of Monday night’s riots.

But a protest in New York City turned out differently. Police said more than 100 people were arrested during a “NYC Rise Up & Shut It Down With Baltimore” rally.

In Denver, police made nine arrests during a similar protest Wednesday night. {snip}

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  • ElComadreja

    However you look at it the world is a better place without Freddie.

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        Not so much Freddie Gray though, at least not to me.

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    • Earl P. Holt III

      “Nothing became him in life like the leaving it…” (Hamlet)

      • Jaggers

        Excellent quote–but it’s actually from Macbeth in reference to the Thane of Cawdor, whom Macbeth will replace after being promoted as per the witches’ predictions.

        • Earl P. Holt III

          You’re right: I had a momentary lapse. Thanks for correcting me.

          • Jaggers

            Also, the Thane of Cawdor was a traitor, but seemed to accept responsibility for betraying King Duncan, and took his death sentence like a man. Would a denizen of the Baltimore ghetto exhibit such self-responsibility? Gray’s death was apparently accomplished by bashing himself against a van door, not quite as impressive. I know, I’m taking this analogy too seriously, sorry.

          • OHDeutschePolkaConfederate

            Obama and Sharpton probably high five each other each time some poor White cop is accused of “murdering” some idiot thug who brought their own death upon themselves by refusing to cooperate. Each such instance gives the evil Black elites another golden opportunity to abuse and bully Whites. We need to stand up and take our country back from these Negroid idiots. They are only 15% of the population. The tail is literally wagging the dog.

          • Lexonaut

            “I’m taking this analogy too seriously, sorry.”

            Especially given that the Shakespearean characters are fictional.

          • Earl P. Holt III

            Maybe dem nigros in Blatimore did not get enuff Shakespeare readed to dem when dey was mere chirrens…(?)

        • journey

          Also, liked another quote from Macbeth, “what’s done, cannot be undone”.

          • Earl P. Holt III

            “…out damned spot! Out I say…!”

    • OHDeutschePolkaConfederate

      Yes it is. Unfortunately, nothing will be done to stop the real puppet masters that encourage Black hatred of Whites. These would be the Black movers and shakers that the Libtards love: Obongo, Oprah, Don Lemon, Baltimore’s vile Negress mayor, Sharpton, Jackson, Jamie Foxx, and so on. The wealthy and powerful Black movers and shakers are making sure to keep the Black masses in a constant state of racial hatred against Whites. Far more beneficial than the death of another 75 IQ street thug would be impeachment of Barack Hussein Obama, following by his being sent to the electric chair for crimes against humanity.

  • groidle

    I don’t care either way considering how many people guys like Freddie Gray kill every year. Whatever.

    • JohnEngelman

      One of those people might kill me later on today on my way to a nearby grocery store.

      • Kenner

        Don’t go. Order out for Chinese.

      • Samuel Hathaway

        Why do you say that? Do you live in a quasi-ghetto area?

      • ElComadreja

        Well it won’t be Freddie Gray.

        • JohnEngelman

          It won’t be Mitchel Brown or Trayvon Martin either.

  • JohnEngelman

    With CNN and The Washington Post reporting this, one can see thin cracks spreading in the walls of political correctness. There also seems to be a growing willingness for local newspapers to report the race of criminal suspects.

    • Epiminondas

      You should read the comments section in those local reports. Not much PC there.

    • Cindy

      This is a very positive sign for Whites.

      • JohnEngelman

        It is a very positive sign for the the truth. There should never be any sanctions against telling the truth.

        • Samuel Hathaway

          I like the Thomas Jefferson principle for religious freedom to be applied to free speech as well. “It does my neighbor no harm to say that there is one God, many gods or no god. It neither picks his pocket nor breaks his leg.”

          The same standard should apply to polticial, cultural and all speech and free flow of ideas as well as the press. No exceptions. Censorship of words is a hallmark of the road to intellectual darkness.

          • JohnEngelman

            I suspect that most of those who make it dangerous to criticize blacks know that the criticisms are true. However, they are sympathetic to blacks, and believe that if it becomes safe to tell the truth about that race, policies that harm blacks will be passed into law.

          • Earl P. Holt III

            And, they are the EXACT, SAME people who make it dangerous to criticize “Democrats,” particularly their love affair with the CPUSA and Soviet Espionage, and their destruction of Joe McCarthy.

            None are so blind as those who absolutely refuse to ever entertain the truth — under any circumstances — except maybe race…

    • kikz2

      just ystrdy, saw on the bottom of my googlenews… it carried the latest black ‘female’ parking lot brawl… that was a first.

  • Holly Yan, CNN, April 30, 2015

    Two new accounts of what happened to Freddie Gray question the narrative that has fueled protests in Baltimore–the claim that Gray died as a result of police brutality.

    A “narrative” peddled by “CNN” and others. You’d think the narrative molders would learn to sit back and wait for facts. But who needs facts when you can have a good riot and big ratings to go with it?

    • Charles Martel

      Before the internet the facts would never get wide traction. Now we can know the arrest records of angels like this.

      • Epiminondas

        They’re not angels. They’re Dindoonuffins.

  • Freedom of the Press comes with responsibilities. Like any other Right, there are corresponding responsibilities. The media/press is expected to present the entire, unvarnished truth, rather than selective, prejudicial information needed to slant the narrative to elicit more destruction and preserve Democrat political dominance. Apparently, The media must have responsibility compelled upon them.

    A way does exist to assure the truth reaches the tax payers/public. The FCC issues licensing. They are positioned to withdraw licenses to entities who consistently omit information to convey a speciously “truth”. The American tax payers subsidize the FCC licensees and the FCC. Tax payers are owed the truth. They paid for it.

    Adding regulations that prohibit re-issue of a license once withdrawn, might improve honest, legitimate coverage, and remove the liars. The public are long past due a fresh, honest perspective. Printed publications must also obtain licenses to operate. The same idiom could be applied to them. The entire narrative regarding this Baltimore issue is seriously flawed and specifically structured to present and promulgate a lie. The lie will eventually remove more money from the tax payer’s incomes. The money will subsidize more destructive, dysgenic behaviors The party that created the trouble will benefit politically.

    Lying under the authority of any license issued by the US Government/tax payers must be grounds for permanently disqualifying the liars from ever again holding a license. Enacting laws to jail liars is another consideration. The majority of truths are unassailable and self sustaining. If a truth cannot be confirmed, it isn’t published. That is better than what we currently see. The idiots that don’t pay taxes and unfortunately comprise considerable portions of the audience have selective hearing. Unless they are forced to confront the truth, they never will/do.

    Mr. Taylor consistently writes about the color of crime. Each person jailed must be identified, arrested, charged, tried, and convicted – at any juncture they can escape punishment. Many do for frivolous reasons – like the ones in Baltimore freed due to a 48 hour charging rule. The color of crime is inordinately stilted to avoid prosecution and punishment. When a person is convicted and jailed, several crimes evade punishment. This info comes from my father who worked a penitentiary for two decades. The Cons brag about it. They are proud to admit it.

    • Lexonaut

      “Apparently, The media must have responsibility compelled upon them.”

      I stopped reading there. The cure for slanted news coverage is to seek out unslanted news coverage plus coverage that’s slanted in the opposite direction. This may require reading foreign news sources (the UK Daily Mail is good), or the comments on local news websites, etc. It may require watching citizen journalist streaming internet video.

      But I don’t want you or anyone else deciding that the press coverage you don’t like needs to be controlled by someone you approve of.

  • LHathaway

    Perhaps a police doctor can explain how he broke his own spine?

    • Epiminondas

      By thrashing around in that steel-clad police van. A fellow prisoner has stated that he thinks Gray was trying to injure himself from the noise he was making. Plus, he may have already had some previous accident issues that no one knows about.

      • AmericanCitizen

        Like the other media rush-to-judgement cases, we really don’t know much about what happened or Mr Gray’s medical history. We know how it ended, but the way things went down is still unclear. I’ve read online stories that claim Mr Gray had a spinal injury and underwent surgery for it less than a week before his arrest and should have been in a sickbed instead of on the streets.

        Not sure what’s true, but then again the truth is what matters least to the street rioters and looters. An excuse is all they want.

    • journey

      To fracture one’s spine and then to die from it would take quite a bit of force. Perhaps, Freddie already had a pre-existing fracture(s) on the day he was arrested. No one knows for sure what kind of activities he engaged in previously. Was he in a fight, was his spine seriously degenerated, etc? Just like Gardner already had very serious pre-disposition conditions.

    • Germanic Depressive

      Maybe he stupidly stood up with shackled feet in a moving metal van with a hard bolt on the wall near him, and couldn’t maintain his balance when the vehicle accelerated… and he flew into said bolt?

    • Reverend Bacon

      His head had an indentation that matched a bolt pattern on the back wall of the van. It would require incredible determination to do that to oneself, but it’s certainly possible that he did. And what a clever way to play the ghetto lottery!

  • Kenner

    Most white liberals hear the ‘outrage’ from the black ‘community’, and think, ‘They all can’t be lying…’
    They are. Lying is like breathing to them.

    • John Smith

      I don’t believe they’re lying per se, just that they’re too stupid to interpret facts and any anti-white narrative is like chum for them, especially if they can blame a negro’s death on YT. A few of the white liberals help get it going along with their negro lackeys, like Al and Jesse, and it takes off.

      • newscomments70

        Liberals even believe North Korean propaganda. They’re not really all that intelligent. They follow left wing disinformation as if it were a religion.

      • ElComadreja

        I grew up around them. Trust me. They lie and they know it.

  • OHDeutschePolkaConfederate

    Imagine a White person having this same conversation with Don Lemon. Not going to happen. Lemon owes his career 100% to Affirmative Action. When Lemon interviewed H. K. Edgerton, he rudely cut him off several times before he could finish making his points, and was visibly indignant, childishly refusing to listen to the truths he doesn’t want to hear verbalized. Yet, he grants this woman all of the respect and fairness he denied H. K. Lemon is a shameless, hateful racist who encourages Negro hatred of non-Negroes, yet nothing is done to stop him. Lemon epitomizes why America is in the mess we are currently in. Most Blacks are hateful bigots, but nothing is done to stop them. Meanwhile, Whites are punished with loss of livelihood and social standing if we dare to speak truthfully about Negro sociopathy.

  • disqus_irCdmAu8It

    Pants up! Don’t Loot!

  • Preparation HBomb

    In the past 50 years, the rate of black Americans killed by police has dropped 70%.

    In 2012, 123 African-Americans were shot dead by police.

    Same year, 326 whites were killed by police bullets.

    In 2013, blacks committed 5,375 murders in America.

    Whites committed 4,396.

    Whites comprise 63% of the population.

    Blacks, 13%.