U. California Students Remove Offensive American Flag from ‘Inclusive’ Space

Caleb Bonham and Kaitlyn Schallhorn, Campus Reform, March 6, 2015

The Associated Students of University of California, Irvine (ASUCI) voted Tuesday to remove all flags, including American flags, from an inclusive space on campus because of their offensive nature.

The bill, R50-70, was authored by Social Ecology Representative Matthew Guevara, and accuses all flags, especially, the American flag, of being “symbols of patriotism or weapons for nationalism.”

“[F]lags construct paradigms of conformity and sets [sic] homogenized standards for others to obtain which in this country typically are idolized as freedom, equality, and democracy,” the bill reads.

The legislation argues that flags may be interpreted differently; the American flag, for example, can represent “American exceptionalism and superiority,” as well as oppression.

“[T]he American flag has been flown in instances of colonialism and imperialism,” the bill continues, arguing that “symbolism has negative and positive aspects that are interpreted differently by individuals.”

The anti-flag hanging bill adds that free speech, such as flags in inclusive spaces, can be interpreted as hate speech.

“[F]reedom of speech, in a space that aims to be as inclusive as possible[,] can be interpreted as hate speech,” the bill reads.

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The legislation resolved that any decoration that a student finds offensive will be removed from the Associate Student main lobby if the request is made.

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  • accuses all flags, especially, the American flag, of being “symbols of patriotism or weapons for nationalism.”

    That’s about the last thing I think of when I think of the Amurrikan flag.

  • David Ashton

    The national flag is hate speech, too.
    A bit like England – see Stuart Jeffries, “Patriot Games: What does the England flag really mean today?” – The Guardian, November 27, 2014.

  • MekongDelta69

    “The legislation resolved that any decoration that a student finds offensive will be removed from the Associate Student main lobby if the request is made.”

    Fantastic. I find “Social Ecology Representative” (whatever leftist idiocy that is) Matthew Guevara ‘offensive.’

    I would ask a guard to remove him from my sight, but I’d rather do it myself. It’ll be more fun that way. Besides, I’ve never asked anybody to do something for me, that I wouldn’t do myself.

  • WR_the_realist

    James Edwards said years ago that if people were forbidden from flying the Confederate flag they’d soon not be allowed to fly the American flag. Of course he was right. I have to say I’d rather fly the Confederate flag because it still means something (Southern pride and cussed independence) while the American flag doesn’t really stand for anything, or at least nothing positive. It’s just a backdrop for politicians.

    • je suis paganisme

      I was one of the few people who would post on the Political Cesspool. Unfortunately, I think that they do not take comments, anymore.

      I once posted about Jan Sobieski and the Battle of Vienna (from which the battle scenes in the Lord of the Rings were taken, I am sure) and James talked about it on his internet broadcast (a great encouragement for us all).

      It is the same with the American flag parallels to the Confederate Flag.

      I am not saying I inspired him, or that he got his ideas from me. No!

      I am only saying that “Reality-centered Minds Think Alike—Realistically.”

      (I also posted about the similarites between political correctness, and the penalties for trespassing such; and the power of the Church in the middle ages, and the penalties for defying such power. James has not talked about that. . . yet. I know that he reads AmRen, though.)

      • je suis paganisme

        Ps–I assume that you are William Roland, the Realist.
        Excellent work, by you and all the crew on the PC.
        This is not just words–I support the PC with $$$ as I support AmREn.

      • I wrote the same thing on Santa Cruz Forum about 20 years ago. Since the basic assumptions behind Political Correctness are not subject to debate, it has taken on the form of a religion. It’s dogma.

    • archer

      It don’t stand for us anymore, that’s for sure.

  • LHathaway

    At least they were fair about it, removing all flags (do you believe it?). That’s likely a first. That is likely the Only fair policy or stance that will every be held at that (obsessed with social justice) university. It’s a miracle.

    • bv

      I have the feeling they’ll put the others back.

      • LHathaway

        Rainbow flags aren’t ‘official’ flags . . . for starters.

  • Truthseeker

    Complete deracination is the goal. Anything one can find an identity in must be abolished in the name of “inclusiveness.”

    • LHathaway

      Exactly so, but only if you’re White.

      Quite the opposite if you are a woman or a person of color, or a foreigner, of color.

  • bv

    Outrageous

  • Steve_in_Vermont

    I’d like to see these folks go to a local American Legion or VFW and make their case. Only if they were lucky would they be able to leave “unassisted”.

    • phillyguy

      I have a better idea for these freaks, dip them in sea lion blubber, drop them 20 miles off the coast of the Pacific Ocean and tell them if they swim back we will remove the flag.

  • je suis paganisme

    Good, GOOD, GOOD!

    I have always believed and said that the U.S. Flag would go the way of the Confederate Flag. The way was wide open, with no objections–moral, philosophical, or religious.

    And so it has begun.

    Now, maybe more people will become aware . . . and grow a pair.

    • Ken Dometriosis .

      But the wetbacks can hang a Mexican flag and get away with it because, as you wrote, no one has the balls to object.

  • Cheri Rodriguez

    I’m sure the Betsy Ross Flag is on the endangered list because Some of those 13 stars were slave states.

  • Chip Carver

    If any White students are involved, they’ll soon get a taste of reality, right in their chins. Because when things finally crumble, and there is no doubt they will, these libtards are the kind of folks who will eagerly rush to the “aid” of their dusky friends and find out that their race has put them on the other side, no matter how brainwashed they are. Unfortunately a lot of Whites are going to be hurt when this happens, but hey, their parents should have been smart enough to be able to counter the brainwashing in most cases.

  • dd121

    If you interpret hanging an American flag as “hate speech”, I can interpret your behavior as treason.

  • LexiconD1

    It needs to be noted that the student body of this campus is comprised of mainly Asian students, of Vietnamese and Cambodian decent. So I’m not shocked by this at all. The area is overrun with these people.

    A sign on the freeway going into the area says, “Welcome to little Saigon” (which has been ran over numerous times.)

    • pcmustgo

      YEAH, TAKE THAT ASIA-PHILES! I’ve warned time and time again of racist incidents I had with East Indians and Asians.., yes, some of them have got into white bashing too!

      • HE2

        Exactly, pcmustgo. Every time a White Asia-phile Amrenner posts the wonders of breeding with an Asian, my hair stands on end.
        Asians may pretend they are “on our side,” but they are in bed with liberals and just as likely to play the race card as every other nonWhite in this country.
        Come to California, Washington, British Columbia, or Oregon and see for yourself.

        • dd121

          I have read that Taylor is married to a Japanese woman. He was raised in Japan and his paid job to to translate legal documents between Japanese and English.

  • LeonNJ

    Wait until these brats have their dreams answered when all these racist borders are erased. I’ll give them less than 24 hours until they wish it was 1950 again.

  • John Smith

    America is so racist and evil that they should leave and go back where they came from – except they never do.

    • InAFreeCountry

      No, they just keep on coming. Amazing, isn’t it?

      • John Smith

        You’d almost think that was a lie told by leftists….

  • disqus_irCdmAu8It

    The US government should immediatley stop all federal funding of this school. Of course, the Democrats love this stuff.

  • listenupbub

    There is no reason why any people group should not be able to organize into separate groups and create a positive identity for themselves based on common traits and passions. We do it all the time in our personal lives. The “nation” is a larger example of this.

    I think even these libtards know this. The reason this hispanic demands inclusion is simply jealousy. It is just like when a kid wants to be one of the cool kids.

    What he is jealous of is not only the money that the 1% in America has, but the genes of white people. The looks and disposition of the whites intoxicates hispanics and blacks (and often Asians). They cannot rest until they get sweet love from whites.

    • LHathaway

      haha, if Only that were true.

  • LHathaway

    “For some, the flag symbolizes “colonialism” and “imperialism.””

    It’s only a matter of time before the flag is seen to represent White dispossession and failure, and minority conquest, through colonialism, and as celebration and symbol of both. Once again, the libtards are exactly, completely, 100% correct, just for reasons they could ever suspect, or in some cases, could at most only suspect.

  • Ella

    When you read these articles, you can change out Sweden, Britain or America hearing the arrogance and hypocrisies of these new immigrants. Then, the governments tell their own nativists, “Oh, what fine future citizens that they ‘ll make in your country!”

  • LackawannaErie

    UCI’s nickname is “University of Chinese Immigrants.”

    Let this be a wakeup call to all of those who think that American culture can survive replacement of whites by Asians.

    • InAFreeCountry

      The ChiComs pretty much own us lock, stock, and barrel. They have a much different attitude to foreign investment in their own country, however.

  • “The legislation resolved that any decoration that a student finds offensive will be removed from the Associate Student main lobby if the request is made.”

    I would have so much fun with this last bit if I was there… every single la raza, mecha, naacp, “colored” student union, etc. Flyer, poster and/or advertisement would offend me, and be promptly removed.

  • Light from the East

    Those people banned the flag of the USA just like ISIS broke the pieces at Mosul Museum.

    The symbol of the USA is not allowed to shown on campus.
    The symbol of Assyrian civilization is not allowed to exist under Islam.

    Please tell me the difference between those students and those death cult worshipers.

    • Christine Schaeffer

      There is no difference.

  • JustSayin

    I’m not for advocating violence, but these “people” are going to continue with this kind of bullshit until we’re left with no option but “forceful self defense.”

  • RebelliousTreecko

    The legislation argues that flags may be interpreted differently; the
    American flag, for example, can represent “American exceptionalism and
    superiority,” as well as oppression.

    “[T]he American flag has been flown in instances of colonialism and
    imperialism,” the bill continues, arguing that “symbolism has negative
    and positive aspects that are interpreted differently by individuals.”

    The anti-flag hanging bill adds that free speech, such as flags in inclusive spaces, can be interpreted as hate speech.

    “[F]reedom of speech, in a space that aims to be as inclusive as possible[,] can be interpreted as hate speech,” the bill reads.”

    —-

    This is a major reason why a hodgepodge society fails.

    Conflicting views, conflicting morals, what symbolizes freedom for one group (Whites) symbolizes conquest for another. (Amerindians and Mestizos)

    • Freedom of speech is a US First Amendment right. As such, it is not subject to revocation by university student bodies. The only way to repeal a Constitutional Amendment is the same way one gets passed. It requires an act of Congress followed by ratification by two thirds of the states.

      In saner times, university students would know this.

  • ShermanTMcCoy

    Enjoy your f*cked up country. The people who did this ought to be hanging from lamp posts. I know, we might be right behind you in Germany. But, swear to God, when it gets that bad here, I’m moving to Russia. No, it isn’t perfect, but it’s a heck of a lot closer to being the land of the free and the home of the brave than Black Run Amerika.

  • Hammerheart

    Sounds like the value of an UC Irvine degree just plummeted. I hope the government doesn’t fill up all its professional vacancies with affirmative action hires lest these kids find themselves slinging mochas with 80,000 student debts post graduation.

    • LackawannaErie

      UCI students are mostly Asians. There are very few real white American students there.

  • Christine Schaeffer

    Is there any symbol that someone or some group does not find “offensive” anymore?

  • Dave West

    Ethnic food, riots, increased crime, blaming white people for everything, banning the “racist” American flag.

    Isn’t diversity great?!

  • Dave West

    The new American flag:

    A gay pride flag background, with stick figures rioting. In the upper corner there will be a #handsupdontshoot has-tag in big black letters. Sketches of Malcom X, Obama, and Elizabeth Warren in the center. To top it all off, at the bottom there will be a tribute to Tray-skittles and the Gentle Giant!

  • Their objection to flags appears to be symptomatic of a rejection of group identity. What about other expressions of this? We can use ball caps with logos on them as an example. I have lots of those, as I like to keep the sun off my face, and I wear each as the mood takes me:

    “USCSS NOSTROMO 180286”. A crew uniform cap from the ship in the movie “Alien”.
    “NRA ILA”. The National Rifle Association’s Institute for Legislative Action.
    “Symetrix”. I used to work for them.
    “Harley-Davidson Motor Cycles”.
    Confederate Battle Flag.
    “Wells Fargo & Co”. My mother is retired, but my wife still works there. I quite like the embroidered stagecoach.
    “North American Hunting Club”.
    “Nikon”. The camera company.
    “Trout Unlimited”. A clean water advocacy group.
    “Saturn”. I got it when I bought my first – and probably only – new car in 1995.
    “Cyberdyne Systems”. The company that made killer robots in the movie “Terminator”.
    “Tyrell Corporation”. The company that made artificial people in the movie “Blade Runner”. I liked that one due to Deckard’s (played by Harrison Ford) slow, creepy realization that he’s also a replicant.
    “Franklin Templeton”. The investment firm.

    Finally, I have one with the international “biohazard” symbol on it. Someone could pretend to be “offended” by nearly any of these. Most are capitalist corporate advertisement (oh, no!) Two are associated with fishing or hunting, one with a country that no longer exists, and three with sinister but completely fictional corporations from Hollywood movies.

    Are corporate or other logos – like team names – insufficiently inclusive for these juvenile bed-wetters? Obviously by wearing a “Saturn” ball cap, I am promoting that now-defunct brand over Ford, Chrysler or any of the others. I’d like some more from companies that no longer exist, like Packard, Studebaker and the New York Shipbuilding and Drydock Company.

  • SFLBIB

    “[F]reedom of speech, … can be interpreted as hate speech.”

    It also means that you’re going to hear things you don’t like. Nobody can guarantee you will go through life un-offended.

  • Karen Peckham

    There should be a resolution banning any taxpayer funds allocated to UCI, period. How dare these social miscreants move to ban the American flag. Throughout history, many men and women have fought and died on the battlefield protecting our freedom and liberties. Those who are offended by all it stands for should pack your bags and take a one-way ticket off our soil and don’t come back!!!
    Long may you wave, Old Glory.