Army Investigates Alleged ‘Racial Thursdays’ at Unit

Michelle Tan, Army Times, March 19, 2015

The Army is investigating allegations that a platoon of soldiers was given a free pass to use racial slurs against each other during what was known as “Racial Thursdays.”

The soldiers belong to 2nd Platoon, C Company, 3rd Battalion, 21st Infantry Regiment, according to a member of the unit who spoke to Army Times.

The battalion belongs to the 25th Infantry Division’s 1st Stryker Brigade Combat Team at Fort Wainwright, Alaska.

“When I first got to my unit, someone said we should do ‘Racial Thursdays’ because it’s been a tradition,” said the soldier, who asked to remain anonymous. “It’s something they made up where you can say any racist remark you want without any consequences. The platoon sergeant said no, but the shit is still going on.”

The soldier, a staff sergeant, added: “It’s degrading to the soldiers. We’ve had soldiers almost fight over the crap that’s going on here.”

The NCO, who is black, said no one has directed any racial slurs towards him because he made it clear he would not participate or put up with the practice.

But he also said he felt compelled to bring the issue to the media because the unit “has a bad habit of sweeping things under the rug.”

U.S. Army Alaska initiated a commander’s inquiry into the allegations late last week, said Lt. Col. Alan Brown, a spokesman for the command.

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The unit where “Racial Thursdays” allegedly took place is the same unit that Pvt. Danny Chen belonged to.

Chen, who belonged to C Company, committed suicide Oct. 3, 2011, while deployed to Afghanistan. Authorities said Chen killed himself because he was hazed over his Chinese ancestry.

Chen was called names while in training, then was subjected to hazing after he was deployed to Afghanistan, according to his family. On the day of his death, Chen was forced to crawl about 100 yards across gravel carrying his equipment while his fellow soldiers threw rocks at him, the family said.

At least eight soldiers were either court-martialed or administratively punished in the case.

“There is absolutely no connection between this current investigation and the case of Pvt. Danny Chen,” Brown said. “Treating all soldiers with dignity and respect is something this command takes extremely seriously, and when there are any indications that those values are not being followed, the command will absolutely make inquiries, conduct appropriate investigations and take action as necessary.”

The NCO who spoke to Army Times said he filed an equal opportunity complaint against his platoon leader, who allegedly encouraged “Racial Thursdays” as a way to build morale and camaraderie.

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  • TruthBeTold

    The NCO, who is black, said no one has directed any racial slurs towards him because he made it clear he would not participate or put up with the practice.

    Once again, the black guy ruins all the fun.

    And they wonder why we don’t want to be around them.

    • propagandaoftruth

      You can’t have any fun with Race the “invisible” 800 lb Gorilla in the room. He plays too rough for soldiers.

    • DiversityIsDeath

      Yes, what a fairy this tattling negroid NCO is! The snitch ass bitch ran to the media for help, boo hoo.

  • This is the military that’s going to fight and win World War III? Don’t make me laugh. These tough guys can’t take being called “naggers” and “chinks” and yet they call themselves men.

    Is there a white guy around who gets all butthurt when a black yells out, “Muggafuggin crackas.” I don’t. And I don’t claim to be tough.

    • TomIron361

      They will not win any wars. The military has moved on beyond infantry. Everything is about the gear anymore. The mission of the infantry is to find the enemy (not engage them) and stand back and let the fire power/gadgets destroy them.

      • Reynardine

        That worked out great in Afghanistan and Iraq, right?

      • Hammerheart

        How will the gadgets know where to strike with an actual ground element directing the fire? Furthermore, after any sort of munitions strike a BDA will need to be conducted.

        • “We lost Iraq and Afghanistan mainly due to bad policy, restrictive RoEs, and rapidly changing, non committal mission objectives.”

          Absolutely 110% correct. The idiotic RoE’s likely killed more soldiers than anything else.

          • Hammerheart

            Yeah. There were a few times I felt like a shooting target because I literally couldn’t do anything to defend myself.

        • ElComadreja

          They really think an army composed of women, negros, fairies, mestizos etc. with drones doing all the work for them can win a war. What a joke.

          • Hammerheart

            That army would be quickly defeated by a loosely organized coalition of country boys with pick ups and deer rifles providing they just stay in the woods. Technology wont replace boots on ground until the Japanese invent battle robots.

      • Quido

        In the good old days when I was a grunt we were taught to close with and destroy the enemy through fire and maneuver

        • TomIron361

          Yes, but those days are over. Semper Fi…

        • Speedy Steve

          When the NCOs are negroes, then cowardice becomes the order of the day.

      • No military will ever move completely beyond grunt infantry. The name of the game is taking and securing land for one’s own political objectives. That one can’t be “fixed”: it already is. Let’s suppose we produce “Terminator” robots and “Bolo” A.I. super-tanks that can kill anything that moves and sent them to some hostile country. Ultimately we would still have to make the hostiles agree to stop fighting, and that requires human persuasion. It worked with the Japanese and Germans after World War Two. They were already civilized, and completely exhausted, which doubtless helped.

        The Coalition took a huge bag of Iraqi POWs in 1991 precisely because they eventually understood they would be treated properly. One absolutely wants the enemy to surrender in a war. Even if they later keep quiet and one doesn’t waterboard the poor souls seeking information they probably don’t know, a human touch makes everything much easier, because more will surrender.

        This saved the lives of Coalition soldiers, and our political leadership botched the peace. That is a different story.

        • Hilis Hatki

          Reminds me of that ww2 cartoon of a Japanese POW telling his American captors “What ever you do to me, please dont feed me that American delicacy called Spam.

        • Stephen Wordsworth

          “Let’s suppose we produce “Terminator” robots and “Bolo” A.I. super-tanks that can kill anything that moves and sent them to some hostile country. Ultimately we would still have to make the hostiles agree to stop fighting, and that requires human persuasion.”

          Why would you need to persuade anyone if there all dead? How exactly do you persuade dead people anyway?

      • Hilis Hatki

        Genome specific bioweapons …. because it leaves all the “stuff” of the enemies’ nation still….. consumable.

    • Usually Much Calmer

      It is all relative. I never thought I was attractive but legions of hysterical fat girls have pushed me into that rank.

      • Whitetrashgang

        Just don’t let them sit on you without insurance.

        • Usually Much Calmer

          Not even with it, don’t worry!

    • Weisheit77

      That’s why they need drones and robots, ASAP!

  • Oil Can Harry

    Every day in the ghetto is Racial Thursday.

    • Reynardine

      It’s always Racial Thursdays at my place.

  • Jason Lewis

    “Porch monkey, we’re taking it back.” Clerks 2

  • Hammerheart

    If you can’t handle being called a slur by your buddies whom you will train, suffer, and deploy alongside with, you can’t handle the infantry.

  • IKUredux

    Puhlease, everyday is racial day. Just think, if all the other races were to disappear, there would not be a need for a “racial” day.

    How heavenly this world would be without the “others”. Think about how harmonious our worldwould be. Whites wouldn’t have to flee from Black crime. Our schools would be peaceful and calm. Our taxes would be reduced to practically nothing. Little crime, little trash, tranquility and peace would reign in our neighborhoods. We could use our tax dollars to explore the heavens! We could travel to Africa and glory in its beauty without worry. Indeed, we could live there and develop its riches and create an utopia! Think about what we Whites could accomplish in India and China, if we were the only race that inhabited the Earth!

    • 李冠毅

      I think you’re cherry-picking. Think about it: what if the situations are reversed? What if, say, the Chinese are the majority in the West and governs it, while Whites are the ones stuck in an overcrowded country which has only recently begin to recover from centuries of foreign invasion and internal corruption? My guess is, Whites probably wouldn’t fare any better than the Chinese are now. So please think about this before you write off Africans, Indians, and other non-Whites. You guys may be discriminated in your own countries right now, but you may not realize how lucky you are to be born in a country which has not undergone serious upheaval (the kind seen in China) for centuries.

      • InAFreeCountry

        I thought that the Chinese were doing pretty good for themselves at the present moment.

        • 李冠毅

          Not exactly. The place is overcrowded, resources are quite scarce, and corruption is rampant (in spite of heavy censorship from the government, many of us bypass that using proxies so we can read about the truth and not government propaganda). Those from wealthy families tends to rise to the upper positions, whether they are capable or not, while your average Chinese kid, knowing that no matter how hard they study, they will probably never gain access to the top positions, partly due to fierce competition from another 1 billion fellow Chinese, and partly due to corruption. Many of these kids give up and spend their time playing computer games for money.

      • ElComadreja

        I will write off Africans.

      • IKUredux

        WHAT??? The reason the West is the West is because it has been inhabited by WHITE people. PERIOD. If the West were populated by Chinese then it would have been China! Duh. And, China would be what the West is now, because it was populated by WHITES. A country is shaped by the people who inhabit it. Not the other way around. The Chinese have brought all the problems they have on themselves. That includes too many people, internal corruption, etc. Every nation on earth has gone through violent wars and upheavals. The Chinese, no more than anyone else.

        • 李冠毅

          Okay, think about this. What if the West (and I mean the entire West, not just one or two Western nations) has been pounded not only by the Mongol horde and Black Death, but by yet another, and then another, and then YET ANOTHER wave of foreign invasion, and then by a tyrannical government which killed of millions of Westerners, and has only recently managed to stand back up? My guess is that the West wouldn’t be much better off than China is right now.

          Conversely, think about this. Imagine that 50 years from now, the West has collapsed due to unmitigated mass immigration, and China has managed to recover fully from its centuries of catastrophic decline, and is once again a world leader in science and technology. How will you feel if the Chinese begin bragging that they must be superior because they are then the greatest country in the world?

          • IKUredux

            First of all, your analogies are wearing thin. Other than the Mongol horde, everything you mentioned has befallen Europe. Hello! What do you know about European history? NOTHING. I am not interested in getting you up to date. However, OBVIOUSLY, the West is better off today. Which is why all you loser Chinese are interested in taking over our countries. Let me tell you this: the Chinese will never do anything innovative, ever. They never have, and, they never will. It is simply not in their conformist, derivative DNA. I agree it would seem that the West will collapse due to immigration of inferior races, like the Chinese. For that I am profoundly sad. On the other hand, once Whites are gone, who the hell cares who the superior race is? It will be nothing but a race from the bottom.

          • 李冠毅

            You’re generalizing. Not all of us are interested in invading other countries. So far, me and my family are perfectly content in staying here, and have no interest in emigrating elsewhere. I do not claim to be an expert in European history, but I have read many books on the history of Europe. Not to disparage your knowledge, but you yourself seem to have little knowledge of European (or non-European) history. First, the Mongols did invade Europe; you may have heard of a certain person named Genghis Khan. Also, unlike China, which was pretty much crippled after centuries of invasion from the Mongols, the Manchus, the West, and the Japanese, many Western countries (such as the United States and Switzerland), has pretty much been untouched by severe turmoil for centuries; during the two world wars for example, mainland America was pretty much unscathed. Second, your statement that Chinese never invented anything is false. You may have heard about compass, gunpowder, paper, and the printing press, but there are a lot more; try reading some books on Chinese inventions. Third, I have never believed my own race is superior. Unlike some people, who only bothered to read up on the achievements of their own culture and then assume that others have done nothing, I am aware of the greatness of ancient Egypt, ancient Europe, and the Indus Valley Civilization. Try reading up my comments on the article “What Explains The Black-White Divide?”.

          • IKUredux

            WHAT? THE PRINTING PRESS???? I’ll give you gunpowder. But you all didn’t figure out what it could be used for. DUH. Oh, and, by the way? If you chinese are so smart, why isn’t the rest of the world now speaking chinese and writing chinese characters?

          • 李冠毅

            I have only a few sentences to describe a person like you:

            1) Ignorant of non-Western achievements.
            2) In denial that people other than Westerners can invent and innovate.

            First off, have you read ANY books on non-European history? Or have you merely read about Western inventors and then simply assume other cultures have done nothing? If that’s not the very definition of “close-minded” and “ignorant”, I don’t know what is. You remind me of the liberals whom we often criticize for their tendency to exclude any realities that do not fit into their preconceived beliefs, and who like to stifle opposition through name calling rather than by facts (calling someone, especially a White person, “racist” is like the modern day equivalent of labeling someone a “heretic”).

            You’ll be surprised at what non-Westerners have done. First off, a Chinese inventor named Bi Sheng invented the world’s first movable type printing press in 1040. Sure, you may argue that Sheng’s version was not practical for mass production and thus didn’t get very far, but he wasn’t the only one who predated Gutenberg. The Koreans invented a movable type that WAS practical for mass production 200 years before Gutenberg developed his printing press. Furthermore, a book written in 1045 (Complete Compendium Of Military Classics) detailed extensive use of gunpowder weapons by the Chinese, including cannons and primitive rockets.

            As for why English is the international language, I suggest you reread my earlier comments above and think about it. What if the West was massacred to the same extent as the Chinese? Many European historians have wondered what would have happened if the Black Death was immediately followed by another Mongol invasion; which fortunately for Europe, didn’t happen because the son of Genghis Khan had just died, and the Mongols were ordered to pull back. Alternatively, what if the Mongols never invaded Europe, and never brought with them the knowledge (such as gunpowder) which had allowed the West to colonize the rest of the world and become the dominant power for the last 200 years? What if the Mongols never invaded China, and as a result, China is still the world power it was before the long era of invasions? And finally, with what your governments are currently doing to your countries, how are you sure that another language might not become the world language sometime in the future?

          • IKUredux

            Dang. You are certainly feeling inferior. As well you should be. Look, sorry you are Asian and not White. Sorry, that if you are male, you are considered to be the last kind of male attractive to women of all races.

    • Ellis Kurtz

      Just think, if all the other races were to disappear, there would not be a need for a “racial” day. How heavenly this world would be without the “others”. Think about how harmonious our world would be.

      Europe was effectively free of “others” for most of its history, and what it got was war, war and more war, culminating in the white-on-white bloodbaths of the 20th century.

      • IKUredux

        Nobody is absolutely perfect. I still stand by what I said.

      • Michiganforever

        Not only that, but they dragged in non-whites as well. Thanks to them colonizing land that was not theirs and basically enslaving the indigenous population. Yeah, it basically was slavery, especially in the Belgian Congo. Even if the Japanese had not have invaded the white mens’ colonies in Asia, the colonies would still have been involved. Men would have been sent to Europe to fight. That is exactly what happened in WWI. African, Vietnamese, and Indian troops fought and died in Western Europe for the white man, in a war the white man started.

        Whites are the root of all evil.

        • IKUredux

          You are wrong. Whites are the source of all that is good and right in this world. Whites are smart. Whites are beneficent. Whites are kind. Whites are generous. Whites are beautiful. If it weren’t for Whites, there would be no vaccinations for africans. there would be no food for africans, frankly, there would be NO support of africans at all. The chinese don’t care if the africans live, or die. The indians do not care whether the africans live or die. The arabs don’t care whether the africans live or die. All these people will exploit the africans, and will continue to do so. Once Whites are removed from this earth, the blacks are next. Because NOBODY cares about blacks, other than the foolishly altruistic White race.

  • Alexandra1973

    My dad more or less said that the military isn’t for the faint of heart. You put up with a lot of stuff.

  • Pat Boyle

    I’m of Irish descent. The problems with this sort of thing is that everyone loves the Irish. We are immune.

    In the words of Sidney Riley – the Russian Jew who was the model for James Bond – I chose to be Irish because everyone hates the Jews and everyone loves the Irish.

    • Ellis Kurtz

      What is the difference between St Patrick’s Day and Martin Luther King Jr. Day? On St Patrick’s Day everyone wants to be Irish.

    • saxonsun

      No, everyone does NOT love the Irish.

      • Pat Boyle

        Who? Give me a name and I’ll send the lads over with their Shillelaghs.

    • Spikeygrrl

      No, everybody does NOT hate the Jews.

  • Bill Moore

    Hello,

    This free speech thing sounds like a good thing. Maybe it will catch on and we can actually relax around each other.

    I’ll call you a name, and you can call me a name. The, after a while, we can all laugh together about how silly we had been before free speech came along.

    Bill Moore

  • Donald

    It’s always Thursday at my place.

  • Zimriel

    OT: calling all AmRen’ers, do check out what Linda R. Manzanilla has to say about the collapse of Teotihuacan lately.

    There’s no written record. Mesoamerica was literate at the time, especially the Cholti Maya; but the codices concerning Teotihuacan don’t survive. So Manzanilla instead looked at patterns of material culture – preferences in internal decor, pottery and so on. She also looked at DNA.

    There were two volcanic eruptions before the collapse. Neither blast affected the city itself. Each one did hit, however, people who lived near those volcanoes. The refugees moved north and then refused to take on the culture of Teotihuacan. The city was able to take in the first wave and so it went for a couple centuries. The second wave in 320 AD made things… more complicated.

    Manzanilla talks of “class” divisions but really, between the lines, they’re race divisions. Teotihuacan wouldn’t – couldn’t – change what the city was, to accommodate foreigners. And the foreigners refused to become Teotihuacanos.

  • Michiganforever

    Yes, let us forget about the huge number of African Americans who have died for America, and the huge number of Africans who have died fighting each other and the white invader.

    Honestly though, for real, blacks are probably more of a fighting people than the whites. Just look at history, as well as the cowardly French and the neutral Swiss.

    Also, let us reflect on the number of southerners killed by black, Union soldiers during the US Civil War., and how the North (the Union) won the war.

    • “Blacks are probably more of a fighting people than whites.”

      It’s easy to think that if you think a drive-by is akin to a real infantry campaign.

      • Quido

        There is a world of difference between a murderer and coward and a rock steady, well trained disciplined soldier with a sense of honor and patriotism.

      • ElComadreja

        I’d forgotten that fine example of their courage and fighting spirit in my reply to that BS post.

    • ElComadreja

      Yeah, blacks are real tough when they can attack you from behind and have you outnumbered ten to one. They’re also real tough when they can pick on the aged, infirm and defenseless. The height of their “bravery” and “fighting prowess” comes when they have you outnumbered and possess weapons while you don’t. Even then they’ll sucker punch or attack from behind like the craven beasts they are. Sounds to me like you admire the cowardly filthy savages.

      • Michiganforever

        You are talking about gangbangers. I am talking about the soldiers who fought for the white man. Like in the Civil War, and world wars I and II. Many times they were outnumbered, and given shitty equipment.

        • ElComadreja

          And the whites weren’t? I agree with Weisheit77. You’re either a troll or an idiot. Go worship your negro heroes elsewhere.

    • Weisheit77

      Ok… You’re either a troll or an idiot; I guess it’s possible you’re both.
      This one sentence proves it, “Just look at history, as well as the cowardly French…” Where to start? Maybe that history you’ve never read but which you allude to.

  • listenupbub

    Danny Chen probably had preexisting psychological issues. The only Chinese person I have known who wanted to go into the military had issues.

    Sane Chinese people do not go into the military. It is not the “Asian way,” in their own words.

    • Some Japanese do it, but these are still from the same families. In China, military service was traditionally a lower-class occupation.

      • 李冠毅

        In ancient China, most people were classified into four classes based on what jobs they hold. At the very top is the scholar/teacher class, who were well respected because they could read and write (the ancient Chinese believed that the three people one should respect the most were the Emperor, the teachers, and one’s parents. Even the Emperor was expected to bow down to great scholars like Confucius); followed by the farmer class, because the people depended on them to produce the country’s food; and then the carpenter/workman class, because they can build houses, boats, and other useful things; and finally the merchant class, because they basically produced nothing, though many of them got rich through trade. Soldiers who made a career of being in the military were not highly regarded and did not belong to a class of their own. This was because the traditional Confucian gentleman was expected to be peaceful and not resort to violence. Yep, despite the stereotype that Asians are good martial artists, the art of fighting was actually traditionally looked down upon in China.

    • Michiganforever

      Not the Asian way?

      Tell that to the 10 million strong Chinese Army. Or for that matter, all the Asians in any military. I know for a fact, there are actually around 25000 Asians in the US military. That and all the Asians in the military in their respective Asian countries.

      Furthermore, tell that to the fierce Japanese of WWII.

  • What a great tradition. I think that is something that should be implemented in every workplace. Think of it as a way to relieve the racial tensions between people. Of course, if we really wanted to relieve racial tensions, we could just bring back segregation. Why don’t we just all agree we are different and embrace our differences, as libs love to insist? Just each hang out with our own. That is the best way to manage diversity.

  • Ellis Kurtz

    How about a Race-realism Thursday, where for one day a week the media are allowed to tell the truth about race in the US.

  • Ellis Kurtz

    Drones fitted with boom boxes blasting out Mozart’s Sinfonia Concertante for Violin & Viola?

  • 李冠毅

    From what I have seen, I think it depends on the individual. Just like Whites, who are divided between liberal and conservative, we are not a monolithic, ultra-conformist group (despite what some people here believe). Besides, its no secret that many Chinese hate Mao Zedong and the communist government. But what is the government to do; go after what is probably around half of China’s populace just because they don’t adhere to the government’s ideology?

  • Uncle Bob

    Soldiers should have self-discipline and not be bothered by racial slurs. The hurt feelings police think they can nerf the entire world so that no one will ever be forced to overcome their self pity. The PC police would have our soldiers sit around crying like little girls while bickering over who called who what. Pathetic! Perhaps all units should have a racial Thursday to man them up. Soldiers have much greater challenges to deal with in the face of war and anyone getting upset over name calling is not cut out for the job.

  • Speedy Steve

    There’s a theme here; black is yellow

    • bv

      Come again?

      • Speedy Steve

        The NCO, who is black, said no one has directed any racial slurs towards
        him because he made it clear he would not participate or put up with
        the practice.

  • Hilis Hatki

    There are alot of black racist in the military.

    • Speedy Steve

      There’s also a lot of black laziness, shiftlessness, insubordination, AWOL, and sheer bungling incompetence in the US army. And they are over-represented in stockades such as Fort Leavenworth proving that TNB could be genetic.

  • Chasmania

    Man when I think back to how our CPO talked to us during boot…. Was a different era altogether it seems. Chief Dinger was old school USN Quartermaster on PBRs in VN and I can tell you…It wasn’t hugs and Hello Kitty purses he handed out up in Great Mistakes !

    I know that we came out of BC then ready to take on the world, and we got there by being toughened up , not coddled.

  • regbs

    Are the exponentially higher numbers of suicides of white troops due to anti-white and anti-Christian political correctness? Chaplains are being kicked out of the military now for stating the Bible’s proscriptions against homosexuality – only Christian chaplains of course.

  • Shadrach

    A Chink can’t take the pressure so he kills himself!? No offense but he should have toughened up.