Boehner Says He’d Allow Homeland Security Shutdown

Jeremy W. Peters, New York Times, February 16, 2015

The House speaker, John A. Boehner, said Sunday that he was “certainly” prepared to allow funding for the Department of Homeland Security to lapse, raising the possibility that one of the government’s largest and most vital agencies could be shut down at the end of the month.

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“The House has done its job; we’ve spoken,” Mr. Boehner said on “Fox News Sunday.” “If the Senate doesn’t like it, they’ll have to produce something that fits their institution.”

Pressed on whether he would, in effect, allow the department to shut down if the Senate does not come up with a funding bill of its own, the speaker said: “Certainly. The House has acted.”

In dispute is how to handle the issue of immigration. Last month, House Republicans passed a spending plan for the 240,000-employee department that included provisions to gut President Obama’s immigration policy. The bill would revoke legal protections for millions of unauthorized immigrants, including children, and put them at risk of deportation.

The House measure stands no chance of becoming law. Senate Democrats have filibustered it; Mr. Obama has said he would veto it; and even some Senate Republicans, including John McCain of Arizona, have questioned the wisdom of the House’s unyielding position, raising doubts that the bill would get even 51 Republican votes in the Senate.

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Lawmakers are gone from Washington until next week, meaning that they have just four days in the Capitol in which to reach a deal before the department’s funding runs out on Feb. 27.

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  • E_Pluribus_Pluribus

    I do not know, for sure, the source of Boehner’s admirable resolve, but I suspect a certain liberal professor at Georgetown University, who has testified before Congress on numerous occasions and appeared on Kelly File and Hannity on Fox News on several occasions, has made clear to the House GOP leadership the enormous stakes for constitutional government. Samples:

    “You have the rise of an uber-presidency. There could be no greater danger for individual liberty, and I really think the founders would be horrified…” (Jonathan Turley, constitutional scholar, in testimony before Congress, December 3, 2013)

    “I believe we’re now and a constitutional tipping point in our system. It’s a dangerous point for our system to be in.” (Turley, Feb. 13)

    “He has said he’s going to resolve the deadlock in Congress, the division with Congress, by ordering changes on his own terms, as a majority of one. That’s what makes it dangerous.” (Turley, July 16, 2014)

    “What the president is suggesting is tearing at the very fabric of the Constitution. We have a separation of powers that gives us balance. And that doesn’t protect the branches. It’s to protect liberty. It’s to keep any branch from assuming so much control that they become a threat to liberty.”

    “…what the Democrats are creating is something very very dangerous. They are creating a president who can go it alone, and to go it alone is something that is a very danger that the framers sought to avoid in our Constitution.”

    “What Congress and what the American people have to insist on from this president is a limiting principle. What the president is saying lacks a limiting principle. He’s basically saying… that he can claim discretion to simply not enforce a federal law. Well, that comes very close, if it doesn’t cross the line, to legislation….

    “I hope that he does not get away with, if what we’re talking about is a circumvention of the separation of powers, because that is the very thumping heart of our constitutional system.” (Turley, Kelly File, November 14, 2014)

    • Obama is just following the leftist mantra: “By any means necessary.”

  • Capn Dad

    Won’t happen but I wish it would. One of the biggest scams ever pulled on the American people.

    • E_Pluribus_Pluribus

      It’ll happen.

      • antiquesunlight

        They’ll cave in after a little while like they did last time. They always cave in. The only way they won’t cave in is if polls show that a majority are happy with what they’re doing, and the polls will not show that.

        • E_Pluribus_Pluribus

          No. People don’t understand that failing to pass a DHS funding bill will only result in about 15 percent of the workforce being unemployed. Essential services continue.

          • antiquesunlight

            The government shut down before didn’t do any real harm, either, but that didn’t stop people/the media from going nuts about it. Hell, around here, we were celebrating the government shut down. The rest of the country doesn’t see things the same way, I guess.

          • Exactly. Watch the leftist media go into overdrive and make the Republicans the bad guys again.

          • Realist

            “Exactly. Watch the leftist media go into overdrive and make the Republicans the bad guys again.”

            Boo Hoo, the Republicans need to get a pair.

          • Exactly. Whats really scary is the fact that in a “government shutdown” all that happens is they trim the fat, people who have completely nonessential jobs (mostly of a certain dusky hue…) are out of work for a while, which should make people realize that thise jobs are completely unnecessary, and the money which is used to fund them is being wasted on affirmative action hires. Absolutely sickening.

  • Steve_in_Vermont

    And pigs will fly, the Tooth Fairy is real, and aliens from Krypton have landed.

    • Alexandra1973

      They fly in my Angry Birds GO! game. LOL

      • Steve_in_Vermont

        I can see now that my reference to pigs was, by association, a reference to pork and we all know who is offended by such words. On bowed knees I humbly beseech the forgiveness of anyone who was, in any way, offended by my insensitive comments. I will, in the future, attempt to mend my ways and be more politically correct.

        • Alexandra1973

          What’s with the PBUH some people write after Muhammad’s name? What’s that stand for, Peace Be Upon Him?

          I keep thinking, PIGS be upon him….

          • That is indeed what it stands for, and I think its hilarious when I see it. Its the sign of a non believer… i dont think any imam has said “feel free to abbreviate, allah doesn’t mind if you save a little time, and hey, its the thought that counts!”

            Seeing pbuh is seeing a sign of islam weakening.

  • Adam Skylinks

    Is there any hope left in this country? Is being White a burden?

  • Alexandra1973

    Homeland Security.

    War is peace.
    Freedom is slavery.
    Ignorance is strength.

    They need to ditch that, along with Department of Education among other things.

  • MekongDelta69

    The only thing the DHS does these days is forbid the Border Patrol from doing anything to illegal aliens, so who cares?

    • evilsandmich

      That and probe you at the airport.

  • Bon, From the Land of Babble

    “Department of Homeland Security…could be shut down at the end of the month.”

    Good. Now we’ll have faster airline check-ins and White Americans not used on targets for practice.

    Come to think of it…I can’t think of a single bad thing.

    • Adam Skylinks

      the less government intervention the better…at least until the Zio-Commies get out

    • SentryattheGate

      I agree. Obama insisted that the spending for the illegals be put into the DHS appropriations bill, so that it would be passed, figuring the Republicans would dare not risk America’s anger by shutting down DHS with all this terrorism happening. This is craziness; supposedly defending America with DHS, then allowing millions of unknown, unchecked illegals to stay!

  • dd121

    Maybe while he’s at it, he should force the Democrats to eat those personalities that force people to sign up for ACA.

  • Hammerheart

    It’s not like the Department of Homeland Security does anything productive. To the abyss with Jeh Johnson and his mangled department.

  • WR_the_realist

    I hope the Republicans stick to their guns. This could be great — defunding the DHS. No more TSA agents doing electronic strip searches and physical body gropes! No more fusion centers putting abortion protesters and gun owners on their terrorist watch lists. But wait you say, ICE won’t be funded either! Yes, but Obama has turned our ICE agents into social workers for the undocumented. They haven’t been allowed to do their jobs for years.

    I realize that this is a fantasy — in the end, the Dems or the Reps will give way and the DHS will get funded. I fear I know which side will blink first.

  • Americaandthewestshouldbewhite

    Good shut it down and let Obama be shamed.

  • mikefromwichita

    Shut them down and keep things that way.

  • Kit Ingoldby

    Excellent news. Shut down all the big government crap.

  • Earl P. Holt III

    I don’t believe he’s got the guts, because he (and McConnell) are too afraid of being called “racist.” He will talk the talk, but NEVER walk the walk…

  • Ike Eichenberg

    Tough talk for the gruberites of the republican base.
    Boenhead will fold, executive amnesty will not be stopped.

  • Good for him! For once the Republican leader is showing some guts (I can’t use the word I really wanted; you know moderators.). Yeah, terrorists might sneak in and could kill thousands of people. But terrorists can never bring down America. We can survive terrorism. But what we cannot survive is the demographic replacement of our people.

    • evilsandmich

      In fairness, I think he just wants the Senate to pass a bill. That’s the way this farce is supposed to work where the House passes a bill, the Senate passes their version and then they “reconcile” and come up with a bill that doesn’t look like either original bill. Instead the Dems want the House to pass an unpopular bill so that they have CYA on voting on it themselves.

    • Robert Smith

      The Republican playbook has three basic steps, 1) Complain 2) Compromise 3) Capitulation. Be patient we are only at step 1 in this issue.

      • Earl P. Holt III

        A+

  • slobotnavich

    Just what kind of infantile and paranoid nation has something called Homeland Security, which implies by its weird name that the USA has legitimate hegemony only not over its own sovereign territory but any part of the rest of the world as well. I wonder who was the a-hole who thought this one up. In any event, it makes us look to the rest of the world like a bunch of wimps, pussies, and snivelers, worrying incessantly about the infinitesimal risk of being injured in some sort of random terrorist attack, perfectly willing to abandon the principle of “probable cause” in submitting to random searches of our persons and our cars, and likely soon, to our homes as well.

    Disgusting.

    • The Dude

      Chances of terrorist attacks are not of infinitesimal risk. They happened to us recently, happened to our neighbors, and are happening in Europe.

      And “Homeland Security” doesn’t imply the USA has “legitimate hegemony over (…) any part of the world”–”homeland” means the country, not the world. Every other country has an apparatus of this sort that gathers intelligence and monitors suspicious activities. Thanks to Homeland Security, many deadly terroristic attacks have been foiled before they happened.

      That said, I would be willing to take the risk of that department shut down for a while if it means the illegals would be deported.

      • slobotnavich

        Actually, it’s true that the risk of terrorist attacks is not infinitesimal – but one’s individual chances of drying in one are indeed tiny. The loutish goons of the Homeland Security apparatus worry me far more than a few smelly camel-jockeys. I’m an old Army SF guy and could easily deal with a couple of rag-tag terrorists, who at least can’t arrest me, detain me indefinitely, or put me on trial on some trumped-up charge. In my dotage I can’t quite remember who made the timeless observation that, “Those who would exchange freedom for security ultimately will end up with neither.”

      • slobotnavich

        Some good points, but the simple fact of the matter is that any terrorist group whose members possessed even room-termpeature IQs could exploit a veritable infinity of opportunities to smuggle in a megaton-size thermo-nuclear warhead. It could arrive in air-freight, sea-borne freight, across our northern or southern borders in a truck, in a tanker truck, etc. Of course,they’d have to somehow acquire one in the first place. In truth, terrorism is hardly a major national threat, though no pol would dare take such a cavalier attitude in a nation whose citizens seem incapable of making the simplest calculation of risk and who respond to the argument that “you have less than a one in a million chance of dying in a terrorist attack” with the profound observation, “Well, yeah, but that one could be me!”

  • Realist

    “Republicans threaten serious action against executive amnesty.”

    Even though they are empty.

  • John Smith

    If we didn’t let so many hostile foreigners in, we’d need so much less “homeland security.”

    • slobotnavich

      Well spake!