Schools’ Discipline for Girls Differs by Race and Hue

Tanzina Vega, New York Times, December 11, 2014

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For all the attention placed on problems that black boys face in terms of school discipline and criminal justice, there is increasing focus on the way those issues affect black girls as well.

Data from the Office for Civil Rights at the United States Department of Education show that from 2011 to 2012, black girls in public elementary and secondary schools nationwide were suspended at a rate of 12 percent, compared with a rate of just 2 percent for white girls, and more than girls of any other race or ethnicity. In Georgia, the ratio of black girls receiving suspensions in the same period compared with white girls was 5 to 1, and in Henry County, that ratio was 2.3 to 1, said J D Hardin, the spokesman for the county’s school district. And researchers say that within minority groups, darker-skinned girls are disciplined more harshly than light-skinned ones.

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{snip} At a sparsely attended committee meeting in Henry County where school officials, advocates and elected officials gathered to address discipline methods in the county, a handful of parents of black girls shared their stories. Sakinah White, a single mother of three who is an elementary schoolteacher in nearby Clayton County, said her 17-year-old daughter had been treated unfairly after she was expelled from her high school over an incident in which she was accused of hitting a white male student with a book. Criminal charges were also filed in the juvenile court system, Ms. White said.

“It’s a form of child abuse,” she said.

After a semester-long expulsion, her daughter became suicidal, Ms. White said, and began cutting herself with soda can tops. Ultimately, the criminal charges were dropped, Ms. White said, and the state board of education reversed the expulsion.

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Another thing the girls have in common is dark skin color, which researchers at Villanova University say affects the likelihood of being suspended. An analysis by Villanova researchers of data from the National Longitudinal Surveys of Youth and the National Longitudinal Study of Adolescent Health indicated that black girls with the darkest skin tones were three times more likely to be suspended than black girls with the lightest skin.

There are different gender expectations for black girls compared with white girls, said Lance Hannon, a Villanova sociology professor who conducted the analysis. And, he said, there are different expectations within cross-sections of black girls. “When a darker-skinned African-American female acts up, there’s a certain concern about their boyish aggressiveness,” Dr. Hannon said, “that they don’t know their place as a female, as a woman.”

Compared with black boys, who are disciplined at higher rates than boys of other races and ethnicities, researchers say black girls tend to be penalized more subjectively, like for having a bad attitude or being defiant.

Jamilia Blake, an associate professor of educational psychology at Texas A&M University, said that while black boys are seen as threatening, black girls are often seen as “unsophisticated, hypersexualized and defiant.”

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  • Getting too dangerously close to noticing things, are we?

    • Reynardine

      At this point the elephant in the room has crushed most of the blind men and is currently sexually molesting the last one.

      • TL2014

        Thanks for the lol:)

    • APaige

      Even ‘Jamilia’ the psych professor hints at the issue: “black boys are seen as threatening, black girls are often seen as “unsophisticated, hypersexualized and defiant.”

      • TL2014

        “Seen as”??

        • Sheik Yerbouti

          Experienced as. They don’t seem to realize that it’s not a false stereotype if they keep doing it.

          • TL2014

            No. Just ‘are’.

      • HE2

        “black boys are seen as threatening, black girls are often seen as “unsophisticated, hypersexualized and defiant.”

        Fixed it.

        • Reynardine

          “she would jump on and aggressively hump any man who came near her.”

          Who say blacks don’t edumucate they kids, they jus teachin’ that lil ho how to work the streets early, gnomesain?

          • HE2

            That seems to be the score, early sexualization for later career moves.
            I wonder where that little girl is, how her story ended. Would guess, not well.
            The horrified great grandmother was old school conservative black.

        • TL2014

          Oh, my, goodness. I’m about to retch. This cannot be unread. What an effin horror….

          • HE2

            TL, working my job, that is not the worst story I heard or unseeable situation I observed.

            You are so right. What has been seen cannot be unseen, what has been heard cannot be unheard.
            How I wish it all could.

        • pcmustgo

          Charles Manson was the son of a drug addict mother who would pimp him out as a child

          • HE2

            pc, A tragedy that helped form Manson’s psychopathic character.

            Crack hos pimping out their kids, even infants, is not at all uncommon in the ghetto. Black and brown men around little kids is a recipe for disaster.
            I have seen molested or physically abused White children, but not any who were being pimped out.

      • Jamilia is black and has dubious credentials. (Affirmative action hire, no doubt.) She teaches educational psychology which is to most educated people a lame excuse for a college course.

        • Nancy

          I notice there’s no mention in the article that Henry County is less than 50% white, as nearby city of McDonough is practically hemorrhaging white people each year, and nearby Clayton County, where Jamilia supposedly teaches (home of the Atlanta Airport), hovers around the 13% White mark.

          Would that have anything to do with the relative suspension numbers between white and black females, do ya think?

    • For God’s sake, let’s not actually notice anything!

    • Speedy Steve

      noticing things be waycist n sheet gnome sane?

  • DD-762

    I heard Pit Bulls are considered more dangerous than Poodles. Does society have something against Pit Bulls?

    • Reynardine

      Dog racism is endemic to this society. PAWS UP DON’T SHOOT!

      • Dog-ism is ugly.

        • Reynardine

          Once my dog growled at a strange dog of different breed walking through my neighborhood. You see constant breedist microaggressions everywhere when you start looking.

          #pitbulllivesmatter

          • TL2014

            You are awesome, please keep posting!

          • Reynardine

            I do the best I can. It’s just an unfair world, you know. Why, just the other day, I saw a lady walking her purebred miniature poodle around the apartment ground, and I yelled at her “check your toy dog privilege!” And then I hid in my bedroom. It’s SO UNFAIR that it’s AGAINST THE RULES to have dogs beyond a certain size at this apartment. Systemic breedism is everywhere.

            Yelling at her made me feel really brave, then I told everybody about it on imgur and reddit and tweeted about it.

            #cisbreedism
            #breedequality
            #poodleprivilege

          • TL2014

            Hahaha keep em coming friend!
            Quick question from the uninformed – what’s imgur?

          • Reynardine

            Imgur is an image-macro site that was pretty funny for a while, but occasionally people turn it into a Social Justice Warrior image blog.

          • SlizzardAjeosshi

            This is an unadulterated stroke of genius

          • Lots of new posters here, and I’m glad of them.

          • Nancy

            Me, too. It’s encouraging. (I’d be posting more myself, but ended up with a nasty case of walking pneumonia. That’s the thanks I get for actually going out and getting my first flu shot.)

            Other than the extremely high number of blacks in Henry and Clayton Counties, even in Gwinnett when my own girls would come home from middle and/or high school and report that there was a “girl fight” in the hall, my first question was always, “Were BOTH of them black, or just one of them beating up a white girl?”

            My follow-up question: “Was either girl darker than a lunch bag?”

            I could go to Vegas on the odds I play from those two questions. It’s a no-brainer.

        • Bossman

          Especially since the Pope has said that they too are going to Heaven.

          • Reynardine

            It’s almost like you want to participate in the conversation, but just can’t. Is this a Latino thing?

          • Bossman

            I said that the Pope said that dogs are going to go to Heaven too. Don’t you follow the news? Are you living in a cave?

          • I hope he’s right about that, and also cats. For the way some of us “humans” make their lives here short and miserable.

          • Nancy

            We could have a whole other discussion about how they treat their animals. It’s disgusting. One of the few Negroes in my neighborhood keeps his poor mongrel tied up to a tree in the back yard 24/7. Last summer when gunshots were reported on his street, the neighbors were afraid he finally shot his dog.

            The book “Negroes in Negroland” touched upon their inability to have compassion for animals and children. One story was of a missionary group that donated an African tribe with a donkey to help make their work more efficient. They came back a month later, expecting to see vast improvement in their efficiency, since they now had a donkey to carry loads, plow the ground, whatever.

            Instead, those idiots were doing things exactly as they had before. The donkey, which was never fed since those morons lack the capacity to care for another living thing, got really thin. I think the Bantus finally ate it.

            I believe there’s a special place in Hades reserved for people who deliberately mistreat animals.

          • Aside from all the other obvious clues, one way to tell you’re in Bell Curve City is for all the packs of dogs, especially mean breeds, running around. Jettisoned and ignored pets, lots of pit bulls and rottweilers. Every once in awhile, you’ll read a story out of the ghetto where such a pack of ghetto dogs gang up and kill someone, usually small kids, but it has even happened once to an old man.

          • Nancy

            AHAHAHAHAHAHA!

            You funny, Reynardine.

          • TL2014

            Haha:)

      • Alexandra1973

        Wouldn’t that be “breedism”?

        • Reynardine

          Dog breeds are a social construct.

      • bilderbuster

        Paws up! Don’t Poop!

    • Black Swan

      Good luck getting insurance on your home if you have a pit bull or Rottweiler

      • TL2014

        Really? Why?

        • Nancy

          Because some insurance companies penalize you for having either of those breeds. We’ve had two Rotties in the past, and we just made sure we got them AFTER we already had our policy in place.

          Unfortunately, the second Rottie, who was an 18-month-old male rescue dog, had “issues” with biting other dogs and people. After he attacked the neighbor’s dog and killed a couple of our smaller animals, we had to give him back. The HOA actually fined us, saying we had to pay extra as part of their by-laws.

          • Laura

            I had to give away a Doberman after the insurance agent spotted her. Dobermans were also on the black list.

  • TruthBeTold

    Have you ever gotten into an argument with a dark skinned girl?

    There’s your answer.

    • antiquesunlight

      When I was in middle school I innocently inquired what the topic of conversation was between a black girl and her friend. She exploded in rage, called me every name in the book, and told me to mind my own business. Some time later she came up to me very sweetly, even flirtatiously, and asked to borrow a few dollars. I never forgot that experience. It taught me a lot about blacks.

      • throttler

        I hope you didn’t give her any money.

      • Hy Alldredge

        In 6th grade I was in a gifted program at a public school in a mostly black district. Needless to say there wasn’t a single one in that program (which would never fly now). The three classes had a whole section of the school to themselves so I rarely saw any black kids. One time though, I was outside the school and a black girl came up to me, pointed to her friend, and said “She wanna f*ck you.” I was horrified. Thankfully my parents sent me to a private school after I left there. I remember having one black classmate but he didn’t last a year there.

        • Nancy

          I wrote in my article for Amren a couple months ago about a kindergarten class I had, where I caught one of the boys hiding in the Reading Corner, making out with two black girls. When I caught them, he smiled at me and said, “Them’s my ho’s”.

          It wasn’t like he forced them to sit there and French-kiss him, either. They were willing participants.

    • Speedy Steve

      It’s only fun if you’re in the mood for hearing shrill soprano at the threshold of pain.

    • bilderbuster

      Ever had an intellectual conversation with a dark skinned girl?

  • MekongDelta69

    Sakinah White, a single mother of three who is an elementary schoolteacher in nearby Clayton County, said her 17-year-old daughter had been treated unfairly after she was expelled from her high school over an incident in which she was accused of hitting a white male student with a book.
    You mean a black girl ISN’T allowed to smack a White boy?!?!

    What kind of ‘racist skool’ is this? What’s this world coming to, I ‘axe’ you? I’m calling “Sakinah” (which spells ‘perpetually oppressed victim’ backwards, and we’re both gonna go rioting and looting tonight.

    “No Justice – No Peas?… Piece?… Please?… Sleaze?… Cheese?… Or whatever the heck it is you’re supposed to say.”

    • SentryattheGate

      And the mother claims that the disciplining of her daughter is child abuse! Some teacher!

    • GeneticsareDestiny

      I don’t understand how blacks (and white liberals) can excuse this kind of behavior, psychologically. How do they twist it until it seems reasonable (to them) for a black girl to hit a white boy with a book? Any normal person of any non-comatose IQ level should be able to see that that is not acceptable behavior for any student, regardless of race or sex.

      Certain mindsets are just beyond me, I guess.

      • She is officially being suspended for hitting another student with a book.

        In reality, she probably did a lot worse.

        • Who Me?

          When we think about a schoolgirl hitting a schoolboy with a book, we don’t think of knockout game, extreme blood loss, broken bones and possibly fatal coma–which is probably what happened here. Some of those black girls are VICIOUS, worse than guys, and the guys aren’t allowed to hit back–at least white boys are taught that hitting a girl is a cowardly act, not worthy of a decent man. (So how do we teach them to defend themselves from attacking sherillas?)

          • LexiconD1

            That is not what I taught my son. He was told that if a girl/woman hit him first, hit her back. “I” will take care of the ramifications with the school and her parents.

            I, also, informed the school that my son had MY permission to defend himself, against ANYONE who threatens him. In fact, I told them I expect him to defend himself or he’d face my wrath.

            Needless to say, my son, and his friends, are never ever picked on. for the record, my son holds brown belts in both Karate and Jujitsu (adult, not kids.)

          • Nancy

            It’s good that your kid has the reputation that his dad is “just a little crazy”.

            We deliberately foster our “unbalanced” reputation with the male acquaintances of our teen-age daughters. I went after a couple of much older boys who were sniffing around my girls, sending inappropriate texts, etc. I’m known to show up at their front door, phone in hand, showing parents their son’s eloquent messages (“You’re hot, I want to get in your pants”, etc.) Fortunately so far, they’ve had the decency to be embarrassed and apologetic.

            My husband is worse: He was banned from the skating rink after he saw one boy “hanging on” one of my girls inappropriately. He made a beeline for the boy and grabbed him by the throat. He’s lucky he didn’t go to jail that night. Nevertheless, boys give her a rather wide berth, especially the black ones (our reputation as Race Realists is also well known).

            So yeah…good on you for protecting your son. It makes the troublemakers think twice about messing with him.

          • LexiconD1

            I’m not male…

            Pretty much makes your entire post moot.

          • LexiconD1

            I’m not male…

            I only have one kid, one chance to get it right. I’m also, what was once known, as a former ‘bad kid’. I use to use drugs, ditch school, and do ‘bad’ things, in general (not beating old people, or robbing store type of bad though). Being a former ‘bad’ kid, not much slips under my nose that I don’t know about. Sometimes he does do ‘bad’ things, but he such a great kid, I just laugh them off as a learning experience for him. Heck, he’s such a nerd…One time I wanted him to ditch school and hang out with me at Knotts Berry Farm (we’ve had season passes for years), and he refused. Makes me happy knowing my kids a nerd with goals of going to university, worried about his future.

            The only time anyone has ever made him feel bad (and/or picked on him) was a girl who was one of the ‘school beauties’. She called him ‘stupid’. I asked if she had any classes with him. He said, “Yes. All of them”. I said, “Next time she says something like that, tell her since we have all the same classes. What does that make YOU”? When he did, she never ever said one word to him again.

            The schools know me, personally, because my son has yearly IEP’s (for dyslexia, and my son is a very very high functioning Autistic. It’d take you a long while to catch on.) I’ve explained my feelings about his being able, and capable, of defending himself from anyone, girls included (because if a girl thinks she’s man enough to engage in fighting, she’s man enough to punch, and hurt. Those were my Dad’s words to my brother. I ‘borrowed’ them.) who thinks they can bully him. In fact, I told them if he didn’t make them bleed, I’d be disappointed that I wasted my money, time, and years taking him to martial arts practice.

            Also, for the record, being a bad kid didn’t hurt me. I grew up in my 20’s…I have a great career, and a happy home.

        • Black Swan

          She was expelled for hitting another student and criminal charges were filed in (juvenile) court, which were later dropped. Expulsion is whole different level from suspension.

          This barbaric animals was allowed back in school putting innocent children at risk of her violent behavior. If I were the parent of the assaulted student, I would have sold my house to prosecute this in court, and brought up charges against the school district that allowed this.

          Whites need to abandon schools that leave their as children vulnerable prey to black criminals.

          • Sheik Yerbouti

            Most can’t afford to abandon schools.

          • Sick of it

            “Whites need to abandon schools that leave their as children vulnerable prey to black criminals.”

            Whites HAVE been leaving said schools in droves. A lot of whites still don’t have the money to pay for private school and do not have a home school association, so they are forced to stick with the public school unless they can get their kids into a nearby magnet school. We have to jump through hoops to protect our children, courtesy of the federal government.

          • LexiconD1

            What more parents need to do is insist on School of Choice (you can pick your school, but kids in the neighborhood have first choice at their home school), and stopping busing (want your kid to go to a white school across town, YOU get them there). It’s what my school system has done. Funny enough, most of the schools went back to being what they were in the 70’s, local schools where the students are comprised of the neighborhood kids. Except for high schools, which now have individual school ‘communities’. Those communities consist of kids who have like grades and ‘interests’. The kids who do well all are in accelerated classes together, average kids are grouped together, dumb kids grouped together, problem kids go to separate schools altogether, or ‘vocational’ high school (which has a very poor record for graduation).

            Once you pick your school, and get accepted, your in. Even if you move, you don’t get to change schools.

            I’m lucky, my kid graduates and goes to college next year. I feel sorry though, because the school system began ‘teaching’ Common Core last year. If my son was younger, I’d do everything I can to private school him, even if it meant taking another part time job.

          • Sick of it

            Not only do we not have school of choice, white rural schools in Louisiana have been shut down in order to force integration. No matter how far away the nearest school would be.

          • LexiconD1

            You, obviously, need other people on your school boards. Ones who are willing to do away with that kind of stupidity.

          • Sick of it

            “Louisiana’s population has the second largest proportion of black Americans (32% according to 2010 census) in the United States.”

            That’s from wikipedia. We have a large concentration in North Louisiana. The NAACP wields a lot of power around here. Plus, being a reconstructed state, we are always under the eye of the federal government.

          • LexiconD1

            Time to move.

            Nothings worth being around that many blacks, including family. I want my kid to do better than me, that’s why, as a native CA from a suburb of LA, we’re leaving after he graduates high school. There is nothing left for of us here, doesn’t sound like there’s anything there for you either. With the schools being the way you are, the sooner you leave, the better for your kids…

          • Nancy

            Part of the problem in metro Atlanta is that after whites move to a different county, the blacks either A) follow us, moving in to our once-peaceful neighborhoods and making our schools unsafe, or B) allow their many “cousins”, who can’t afford to follow us (yet), to use their new address to sneak THEM into the school as well.

            I’ve already turned in the license plate of a black woman who shows up in her car at our neighborhood bus stop to drop off and pick up her son. I’ve never seen her or her boy before, her license plate is from a nearby county, and nobody knows where he lives.

          • SentryattheGate

            And now Eric Holder says to stop disciplining so many black students, because that’s racist! So schools will become even more unruly!

          • Sick of it

            They already were. Black and liberal principals do nothing re: student discipline.

          • TL2014

            Correction: whites need to abandon the public school system en masse and let them suffocate in their own merde. Oh, and preferably stop funding it. Sabotage it any way we can.

      • Xerxes22

        Blacks are not responsible for their actions. That is the cardinal rule these days.

        • Black Swan

          Would a White child who assaulted a black child to the point where he was expelled from school and criminal charges brought up against him be allowed back into school?

          Or would it be national news and a cause for white lefties to march in the streets screaming that black children were being slaughtered in the schools?

      • MekongDelta69

        Because blacks (and their White leftist masters), don’t care about rationale, reason, common sense, logic, and those oh-so-annoying little things called FACTS.
        They have a destructive agenda to pursue and NOTHING is going to get in their way.

        • TL2014

          Actually, no – they are simply incompatible with our civilization and they know it intuitively. That causes terrible resentment. That’s actually quite understandable.

          That’s why separation is so important.

        • Black Swan

          “Mental illness” that is seen as complete sanity by the media, academia and government that always take their side over Whites in all cases, all conditions, facts be damned.

          That is the problem, when the abnormal becomes normal and aberrant is justified as rational.

          Why we Whites need our own media that speaks in our favor and not against us.

        • johningermany

          well put.

        • pcmustgo

          They have high self esteem actually

      • TruthBeTold

        It’s easy for them to deny it. They have their one-size-fits-all excuse: racism.

        Their brain just stops at that point.

  • HJ11

    The darker the skin, the greater the sin. Or, to be more precise, Our skin color comes from within and is linked to various genes. Darker people, generally, have a harder time living up to White norms.

    • SentryattheGate

      The paler blacks have more white genes and are therefore, less aggressive (is the obvious conclusion). The PBS program Finding Your Roots claims that the average African-Americans has 25% European genes.

      • Who Me?

        I don’t know about 25% but if you take an average, dark complexioned African-American, and stand him up beside a tribe of Jungle Africans, you can always which is which because the “American” is a LOT lighter. I first noticed this W-A-A-Y back when Alex Hailey published “Roots”. There was a section in the middle with pictures of him back in his “ancestor’s” village. Despite the whole book being a plagiarized pack of lies, nobody could say Hailey wasn’t a total blue-gum, black as hell, by American standards. All the jungle bunnies were a hell of a lot darker.

        • BlueSonicStreak

          I don’t know about that being universally true. African skin tones vary, too – European explorers noted that some areas of Africa had much darker peoples than others.

      • Charles Martel

        Somewhat off topic: when is Elizabeth Warren going to be a guest on that program??

        • SentryattheGate

          Thanks for the good laugh! PBS, being so leftist, probably won’t stir that pot!

  • Reverend Bacon

    In nature, more pigment means more aggression. Could humans simply not be exempt from this rule? In other words, might the explanation be that darker black-skinned girls are more violent than those with fewer of the aggressive pigmentation genes?

    • fgbrunner3

      Are you sure?

    • Mary

      Having attended an elementary school in the ’80s with a large black population, I
      recall that the worst behaved black girls were almost invariably dark-skinned. Lighter skinned girls were usually more intelligent and better behaved, at least to some degree.

      • SentryattheGate

        A long-time elementary teacher (white) that I know told the violent black girls in her class that she would not allow them to hit others and use the “n” word. But the black parents demanded the teacher be fired as a racist because “she wasn’t letting them act black”!

      • GeneticsareDestiny

        That was my experience as well (I also went to school with lots of blacks). The only black girls who ever gave me trouble were invariably dark-skinned. I remember one light-skinned black girl who greatly disliked me, but she never actually did anything to me, whereas the dark-skinned ones would steal from me and shove me around even when I had done nothing to upset them.

        • JohnEngelman

          I guess that is why you figured out that genetics are destiny.

        • BlueSonicStreak

          Me too. The blatantly mixed kids were the least likely to actually start trouble, UNLESS they were in a group of darker blacks. Then they wouldn’t necessarily do anything themselves, but they would cheer it on from the sidelines and do nothing to stop it.

          Singled out, the lighter mixed kids were better. I knew one biracial boy in particular who appeared to go out of his way to consciously copy whites. He would carefully canvas people for their opinions on various things, and then immediately and enthusiastically agree with whatever the WHITE people said. He never offered an opinion until he’d determined what at least one white person thought.

          • Now you know why the mulatto political class is so fanatical about school deseg. They want their mulatto kids around whites, not dark blacks.

        • Augustus3709

          “…even when I had done nothing to upset them.”

          Your existence upset them.

          Primal fear and jealousy. Out-group hostility.

      • Sick of it

        The lighter skinned ones had more white blood and therefore acted more like white people.

        • JohnEngelman

          “In a time of universal deceit – telling the truth is a revolutionary act.”

          – George Orwell

        • Travis Lee

          Not enough.

          • Sick of it

            I’d dare say the same about anti-culture whites, like the barbarians calling themselves liberals.

      • pcmustgo

        Put on a pedestal too by other blacks. Also don’t forget over-compensating zealously racist mulattoes

    • Doomispixulated

      Great White sharks are damn aggressive…just sayin’. I wouldn’t wrestle a polar bear either.
      “Weasels Ripped My Flesh”… Yes Frank, they are aggressive little white beggars too eh?
      I know what you are saying Reverend, just having a little laugh…

      • Great whites are quite peaceful, so long as they do not mistake people for something else, in which case you’re just going to die after the shark takes a test bite and thinks “crunchy”. “Ick!” In the meantime, you are screwed.

        The rules are very simple: never swim, surf or dive in any area where sea lions have been observed, never swim in kelp beds were visibility is poor, and never swim where someone has a dog on the beach.

        That “man in the grey suit” is all about business, and should be understood as such.

        • SlizzardAjeosshi

          Did you ever see the BBC documentary about the South African fellow swimming with the Great White ? Truly impressive

    • SentryattheGate

      There was an Amren article a while back (<1 year?) that reported research along the lines of what you're saying (for animals and humans).

      • TL2014

        Id love to find that article! Any leads? Name, key word search? Thanks in advance!

        • BlueSonicStreak

          I saw this on VDARE the other day, maybe this is what they mean?

          www[dot]vdare[dot]com/articles/j-philippe-rushton-says-color-may-be-more-than-skin-deep

        • SentryattheGate

          I did some searching but didn’t find it, Blue Sonic Streak (below) found it.

    • Reynardine

      At least for Africans, this is demonstrably true.

      Among Indians, however, the South Indians of Kerala tend to be darker than some of their more violent Northern tribes (especially the warrior and muslims ones). Kerala boasts one of the better literacy rates, the lowest homicide rate, and a fair bit of sexual equality for an Indian state in addition to some sizeable economic growth.

      On the other hand, slightly east, we get the aggressive and violent Tamils who seem at constant war with their whiter Brahmin leaders in Tamil Nadu and Sri Lanka…

    • TL2014

      Problem wth the light-skinned ones – we get the Eric Holder and Barack Obama phenomenon. Vicious hatred of whites and intellectual acumen to cause huge damage.

      • Augustus3709

        Right. They have a confused identity but see the racial privileges of being “black/colored”, so they position themselves as aggressively anti-White to prove their blackness.

  • Yves Vannes

    “Jamilia Blake, an associate professor of educational psychology at Texas A&M University, said that while black boys are seen as threatening, black girls are often seen as “unsophisticated, hypersexualized and defiant.””

    Though it was not her intention, she captured the essence and summarized it quite nicely.

    • Who Me?

      The only thing she forgot was mouthy. (Running their LOUD mouths ALL the time. Yelling at each other, yapping on their “sail foams” and just generally making noise any time in between, just because they can. Noisiest animals on the planet!)

      • Simonetta

        Africans are loud by evolutionary nature. Most of Africa is not jungle, but grassy plains. A lot of dangerous animals live in these plains. They love to attack and eat individual people out gathering food. But the animals won’t attack and eat people who are in loud groups.

        For that reason, Africans developed into people who are always being loud and doing everything in loud groups.

        On the other hand, the Europeans evolved in quiet people because the main danger isn’t from wild animals, it’s from marauding solders. The Europeans have had a giant civil war going on among themselves since the end of the Roman Empire. It’s the quiet people who don’t get noticed and killed by random groups of enemy soldiers in Europe.

        Dog breeders tell us that it takes only about 200 generations to turn a wolf into a Chihuahua. With about 20 years per generation, this is about 4000 years (the length of recorded history) and enough to create huge differences between the European and African people.

        This is the real reason why black people are so loud.

  • Michigan Patriot

    Back to tried & true racial ” segregation ” as the solution to liberals racial bean counting concerns; Thurbad Marshall didn’t present a winning constitutional logic to the Supreme Court’s Brown vs. Topeka Bd. of ed. but that let him win by ” affirmative Action ” but we ,as a society, lost big time .

  • John Smith

    They always manage to come up with all these stats about blacks being victimized, unfairly punished and discriminated against.

    Where are the stats about police officers shot and attacked by blacks vs. the rest of the population?

    Hey, blacks are only 13% of the population, so the #’s can’t be too high, right?

    • DD-762

      I really question that “13%” statistic. Think about it. They’re everywhere, it seems.

      • A Freespeechzone

        Not so much where I live–not much ‘diversity’ here.

        • Who Me?

          NO blacks here, with the exception of the ones locked up in the state penitentiary. They are “strongly encouraged” to move elsewhere as soon as they get out on parole to finish out their sentences. I can count on one hand the number of blacks I see over the course of a year. We are however overrun by Hispanics of various flavors. Another reason for the lack of blacks, I think, although the Hispanics aren’t much better.

          • TL2014

            They actually are much better, because they are much more trainable. Also genetically closer to us.

          • Urbane Neanderthal

            I actually like most mexican/mestizos I have met.
            Sure they are more prone to crime and violence than Europeans, but compared to the blax, no contest which I’d rather have when a heterogeneous country is not possible.

            I like them FAR better in their own countries, but I’d trade 2-1 for the africanized americans we have now.

          • Sick of it

            The only time I had such “wonderful people” for neighbors, they played siesta music all night long every night.

          • Usually Much Calmer

            I’ll take a member of the talented tenth over a straight Amerind any day.

          • TL2014

            No. Talented tenth have kids who revert to mean quite nastily. Also, most Latin immigrants, at least from Mexico, are Mestizo rather than Amerindian. So they are much closer to us genetically, like I said, than typical talented tenth.

            Also, don’t forget one thing: anyone who scoffs at the comparison btw the Italian and Mexican immigration (not sure about Latins with more black admixture, like Hondurans and Salvadorans) doesn’t take into account the drastically different circumstànces faced by these populations. Italians who came here a century ago had no welfare state to help them, so had to survive by their grit. Mexicans are greeted by the American post-modern welfare extravaganza, so why should they work hard. They are responding rationally to the current incentive system.

            I have had very good experiences with Mexicans. There is much more common ground, trust me.

          • LexiconD1

            I’m from Los Angeles, CA, and I don’t agree with you, at all.

          • HE2

            I have had very good experiences with Mexicans. There is much more common ground, trust me.

            Are you joking?
            I, and my family, OTOH, have not had positive experiences with mestizos. You must not live in California.
            One evening, I was chased by a carload of them driving at top speed all the way up my circular driveway to the porch doorstep.
            They were yelling lewd comments and banging on the side of their car.
            I screamed “help” at the top of my lungs which brought neighbors running to my aid, thankfully.

            We blonds avoid or never relax when around mestizo males.

          • TL2014

            Wouldn’t you agree that everything is relative? Between Juan and Shitavious, there is no question who is more compatible with our civilization. That’s all.

          • HE2

            TL, Juan is no more compatible in my experience.
            Brown people, like cockroaches, are infesting California.
            Every neighborhood they invade becomes a crime ridden barrio, complete with loud music, loud parties, loud, unmuffled cars, wrecks sitting in the front yards, the harassment of White females, rape endangerment of 10 year old girls.
            Add fatal DUI accidents, the tax drain, medical care system overstress, decimation of flora, fauna, bypassing/befouling rivers and streams in our pristine forests, what could possibly go wrong?
            No, they are not better neighbors.

          • TL2014

            Well, as Paracelsus said, the poison lies in the dose. Too much of Juan is definitely not a good thing for us. Look, too much of anything different is not a good thing for anybody, which used to be common sense until the subversives took over.

            Get a wholesale Russian village here, you will get an opportunity to study in minute detail the different clinical stages of inebriation. Get a bunch of Eastern Germans and you will find scenarios like this: you are at the mall and a man keeps the door open for his companion; you are just behind the companion and are hoping to slip through the opened door, but the man literally slams the door in your face and says”I only keep the door open for my friends”. I kid you not, this happened to me in Germany and it is not outlandish by local standards.

            I’m an immigrant, I daresay one of the better ones because I am uncompromisingly loyal to this country, and, perhaps more significantly, I harbor no illusion as to which type of population put this wonder together that is America. However, I can also see that many Americans aren’t quite aware of just how unique the American civic culture is. There is a lot of romanticizing going on, with ancestor countries being elevated on a pedestal in many ways.

            I have a mexican neighbor family, which behaves like the ultimate caricature: 50 people in the little house, dirty and noisy. However, once they had a party and I went over and asked them to turn it down (it may have helped that I speak pretty good Spanish). They listened and respectfully turned it down, and ever since there is no more noise after 11 pm. Well, you and I both know what would happen if we had the nerve to walk up to Shitavious and ask him to turn down his rap cr…p. Right? Right.

            In sum, there are always gradations. You are swamped in Cali. We are swamped in Chicago too but the mexican neighborhoods are much better than the black ones. All in keeping with various population bell curves.

          • Augustus3709

            Wait, who slammed the door on who, and where was that in Germany?

          • pcmustgo

            On average. But not always

          • pcmustgo

            Nope. Known too many racist hateful.middle class blacks in life. Non violent but mean and vicious. At least some of them. Not all.

      • Alexandra1973

        Probably if you’re near a major city. My county is 95% White. The population of my town…0.2% black.

  • Robert Smith

    It would take a low watt bulb indeed to not be able to see where this is heading. All opinion shaping organs of our nation along with the executive power is beyond the control of the majority population. Incredible.

    • Sick of it

      Which is why I continue to state that this is all leading to a planned genocide. When foreign populations take a country from the native population, things tend to get ugly.

      • Black Swan

        It will boil down to a fight to the death over resources such as water and arable land. As it has always been throughout human history.

        Want to genocide a race? Make sure they have no land to call their own.

    • MBlanc46

      They’ve got control of the government, the major corporations, the news and entertainment media, and education. It’s hard to see how we can fight an enemy so entrenched.

      • TL2014

        We can withdraw. Quit consuming and go survivalist. That will probably make a difference if done en masse. But most Americans are too stupid for that. So, on to perdition we march…

        Btw, if you have kids, our kids should meet for a play date. I’m on the north side, not too far from Touhy.

        • Harry

          “Quit consuming and go survivalist..” Starting with a boycott of the NBA, NFL and products being advertised during those events.

          • Black Swan

            Start with a boycott of all major media. Let the “minorities” they so love and use to bash Whites support them.

            Why support something that does nothing but push for the genocide of your race?

        • MBlanc46

          No kids, but some time when I’m in the city, perhaps we could have a drink.

          • TL2014

            Maybe a cup of coffee? Evanston has some nice spots.

          • MBlanc46

            That’s a bit out of my usual territory, but now that I’m easing into retirements, I should be able to extend my range a bit.

      • Black Swan

        “They” sure do.

        And they’re not black. Neither are they White.

      • pcmustgo

        Half Jewish here.

        • MBlanc46

          Explain?

  • Robert Smith

    With all the recent Afro-insanity a famous negro quote comes to mind, “This house has show goan crazay!”

  • Tommy Sotomayor calls them beasties and hair hatted hooligans.

    • Who Me?

      T. J. Sotomayer is one funny guy. He is as racist as they come, but he isn’t afraid to tell the truth about his own kind. I think it’s hilarious that he admits he lives in a White neighborhood, he doesn’t want to live around his own kind, and he won’t even have other blacks over to his house because when blacks start coming around, stuff starts going missing! (Imagine one of us getting away with saying that in public!) It’s even funnier when he starts ragging on black women, which is all I ever heard him doing.

      • Simonetta

        Yeah, I agree about T.J. Sotomayer. He is one of the few black guys that I actively listen to now on YouTube and take seriously. His assessment of that thing a year ago with the 80-year-old NBA team owner telling his girlfriend not to hang out with black players was the most insightful commentary that I heard from anyone.

        • Who Me?

          Listen to his youtube rant about the knockout game. He comes right out and says he hopes the rant gets put up on “racist websites”.

        • pcmustgo

          He’s afro-latino. Maybe that’s why he’s better

          • Augustus3709

            He’s a self proclaimed ink-spot.

  • Frank_DeScushin

    “black girls tend to be penalized more subjectively, like for having a bad attitude or being defiant.”

    Add defiance and a bad attitude to the list of behaviors that teachers must now tolerate if that behavior comes from blacks.

    These agitators truly are dumb. On one hand they say that black girls are unfairly stereotyped as “the angry black woman” who is defiant and has a bad attitude. They assure us this stereotype is wrong and racist. Then, on the other hand, they ask teachers to go light on black girls who are defiant and have a bad attitude. But I thought you just told us that the “angry black woman” is a stereotype and doesn’t exist? So which is it — go light on the angry black girls or there are no angry black girls?

    • Black Swan

      Try having a “bad attitude” or being defiant in the workplace, and that includes places like MacDonalds, WalMart and Target.

      They’re being taught that might makes right, if you don’t like something use violence to get your way.

  • john maverick

    Blacks can’t take any criticism because they’re aware they can’t measure up and never will.
    If they were taught by robots,the robots would hate them.Like the man said,”they can’t be driven away or kilt”.

    • Reynardine

      I think the key to civilization is the “inward journey” of self-discovery and self-evaluation that leads to intense labor towards a goal, and consequently the civilized fruits thereof. Blacks neither are prepared for such nor want to attempt it.

      • Sick of it

        I think the key to civilization is an outward journey of white people from this planet. Away from the uncivilized barbarians. Of course, that’s a nice alternative and not likely to be what happens.

        • Reynardine

          Rest assured, they’ll want to pack negroes onboard to settle Mars to assure “racial representation forever” in space.

          • Harry

            Which is the same as trying to settle Mars while wearing a ball and chain.

          • Sick of it

            That situation would be quickly rectified away from millions of armed goons.

        • UncleSham

          We currently inhabit the best planet in the universe. We should never abandon the Earth to lower life forms, even if we have the option.

          • Sick of it

            It’s not like they’ll let us leave. We’d become a threat later on if they did.

      • Black Swan

        Blacks do not have the IQ to be civilized to White standards. They have smaller brains, especially small frontal lobes which control impulsive behavior.

        They are incapable of preparation due to an inability to plan ahead and have little understanding that actions have consequences. Blacks understand only immediacy.

        Self-reflection, planning ahead, future orientation, orderliness, respect for others and their property, respect for rule of law are all White characteristics reflective of White DNA honed by mother nature over the past 10,000 years.

        Anyone who says otherwise and tells you “race is a social construct” is an anti-White supporting the genocide of the White race. HE doesn’t believe it but wants YOU to.

    • Black Swan

      Blacks don’t have to take criticism, that’s why they won’t tolerate it. They have the media and TPTB on their side to take up their cause no matter how heinous the crime, especially if it’s crimes against Whites.

  • dd121

    There is a correlation between race and school violence. From this liberals postulate that the extra discipline blacks receive is caused by “racism”. Does anyone think the real cause may be the extra rowdiness and violence that blacks exhibit?

    • Black Swan

      Our overlords would have us believe that the utter lie that we are all equal in all ways, including IQ and behavior, and that any deviance is due to White racism and oppression.

      It is this narrative that needs to be smashed and replaced with reality.

  • Nimadan

    “Dark… black girls are three times as likely to be suspended as those with light skin”

    They’re probably TEN times more likely to commit suspendable offenses.

    • Sheik Yerbouti

      That seems to be the mysterious missing fact nobody wants to consider these days. I can’t get over how many people think ignoring a problem brings it under control.

      • Nimadan

        Most people, when forced to consider a new idea, make up their little minds by (1) checking in with their inner child to see how the new meme makes Baby feel and (2) by finding out what the other sheep in the herd are saying about the new idea. At no point, does Joe Average engage in logical analysis or do anything that remotely resembles research. The globalist elite understand all of this perfectly, and exploit it, ruthlessly.

  • paul kersey

    Sakinah din do nuffin

  • Tarczan

    Jamilia Blake, an associate professor of educational psychology at Texas A&M University, said that while black boys are seen as threatening, black girls are often seen as “unsophisticated, hypersexualized and defiant.”
    Sounds right to me.

  • RacialRay

    What I cannot figure out for the life of me is why any of these Amazons are in high school in the first place. Beyond the age of consent, which in the inner cities is apparently somewhere shy of 13, the future for the majority of black girls is going to involve a whole lot of not needing anything that might be learned through the racist educational system. It doesn’t take much in the way of smarts to get impregnated by random sperm donors and shed chillens like dandruff in order to sponge a living from the welfare system.

    Kurt Vonnegut famously summed up the typical black’s feelings about literature in particular and education in general with this priceless line from Breakfast of Champions:

    “Wuffo I wanna read no Tale of Two Cities? WUFFO???”

    • Black Swan

      Doesn’t matter. There will be a government job waiting for them. They won’t even have to show up to collect a six-figure salary and automatic promotions over Whites.

    • The majority of blacks cannot read and understand A Tale of Two Cities, because of their lower IQ. Actually, most blacks should be taught a marketable skill when they’re young rather than expecting a 5th grade brain to do high school level work.

      • Usually Much Calmer

        What if there are no marketable skills that they are able to learn?

        • I don’t know the answer to that and was hoping someone else might know. One thing is picking produce. But they won’t do that because they view it as “too much like slavery.” I’ve heard that said. The assembly-line jobs that once absorbed a lot of low-skill workers are now done by technology. So what is there? Expecting them to succeed in school beyond a certain level, though, is futile.

          • HE2

            Mestizos are working in the meat packing industry, which is alarming.
            Read last year about an Iowa mestizo hiring chicken processing business being temporarily shut down because too many workers tested positive for Hepatitis B.
            Hep B is endemic in Latin America and most Third World countries, including China.
            Hep B is not a disease that we should treat with cavalier avoidance. It is a killer.

            So, they do not test for communicable diseases before hiring or is that a form of “profiling?”

        • sophiepeaches

          Then they don’t eat. Natch.

  • TheCogitator

    The girls with lighter skin have more white blood in them. The darker girls are more pure negro, and therefore have the aggressive behavior that comes with that. No surprises here.

    • JohnEngelman

      Those are dangerous thoughts, Mr. TheCogitator.

      Guards! Seize that man!

    • RationaliseThis

      It’s a lack of self esteem caused by White privilege.

  • libertarian1234

    “…..while black boys are seen as threatening, black girls are often seen as “unsophisticated, hypersexualized and defiant.”

    For both sexes try rude, loud, unintelligent, prone to crime and violence over matters of little significance, loud boisterous personalities, arrogant, and a lack of impulse control that places them in the hunter/gatherer stage of evolution.

    Now with those slight adjustments the NYT can start from a more accurate description of just exactly who these people are.

  • OyVey00

    >>Jamilia Blake, an associate professor of educational psychology at Texas
    A&M University, >>said that while black boys are seen as threatening,
    black girls are often seen as >>“unsophisticated, hypersexualized and
    defiant.”

    Wait, is this woman saying they are in fact NOT?

    • Jamilia Blake is black. Her field, educational psychology, is a dubious at best. She has to come up with these nonsense ‘studies’ to make herself look relevant.

  • me

    They’re the same thing…but we’re not supposed to ‘notice’ or bring them to task.

  • MBlanc46

    Anyone who has ever witnessed the behavior of adolescent black females why there is this disparity in discipline.

    • JohnEngelman

      Yeah I know, but we are not supposed to say anything about it.

      • MBlanc46

        Doing so is certainly very, very “racist”.

        • JohnEngelman

          In contemporary parlance a “racist” is one who tells the truth about racial differences. An anti racist is one who tries to suppress the truth.

  • me

    Time to get the ships ready and let these poor Negroes go to a fairy land where they can steal, riot, loot, mob, rape, and murder without consequence. The can go to Negroland, where they can be as ‘nasty as they wanna be’, without worrying about Western culture’s rules of civility and justice. They can be free of all of the White, Asian, and other non-Negro ‘racists’ that won’t put up with their nonsense. They can go back to the ‘old ways’ of cannibalism, tribal wars, voodoo, and other shenanigans that are part of their ‘culture’. In Negroland, they won’t have to go to school, get a job, worry about law enforcement, or worry about trying to ‘act White’. They can smoke weed, drink alcohol, twerk, and rap all day long! It’s time we separated from them and sent them on their way, for their own happiness and well being.

  • Alexandra1973

    I’m sure you mean *relatively* more civilized.

  • John Smith

    Of course, if there is a link between pigmentation and the dosage of genes responsible for violence there just might be nothing to see here.

  • TL2014

    Could anyone here direct me to research that links skin color/hue with behavioral characteristics. TIA!

    • The various countries that whites and northeast Asians have created are exhibit A in this respect.

  • bubo

    Half of the videos on world star are of black females fighting. So yeah, maybe, just maybe, there is a connection between skin tone and school discipline.

  • JohnEngelman

    When it is pointed out that black students are more likely to be suspended, and that blacks are more likely to be put in prison, whites are expected to feel ashamed. Blacks should feel ashamed. Blacks are more likely to cause problems, so they are more likely to be disciplined.

    That is obvious. With the constraints of political correctness, truth startles.

    • RationaliseThis

      What is irritating is the shameless disgusting dishonesty of the NYT headline.

      The headlines weasel words mislead by suggesting that the 3-5 time higher than normal suspension rates of black females is that they are discriminated against by White society.

      That is an outrageous and offensive demonisation of all Whites of all political persuasions: liberals, White Nationlists, conservatives, libertarians alike.

      it is well known that American Blacks have criminal representation ratio over 8 grester than the non Hispanic White rate as measured by conviction rates and victim surveys.

      It is disgusting and hateful to thus accuse Whites of bias since most of the teachers present will also be Black themselves.

      The New York Times has consistantly shows spirit and intention that demonstartes a lack of honesty, fairness or integrity.

      It has no credibillity because of its chronic mendacity, a junk paper of low journalistic ethical standards In service of high political bias.

      Phillip Rushton in his book “Race Evolution Behaviour” pointed out that Blacks have a puberty at least 9 months before a Whites and that they may not be behaviourally suited to schools scheduled for Asians and Whites. Herrenstein & Murray pointed out that low IQ correlates with behavioural problems and that not only did Blacks have much higher crime rates as expected by the lower IQ they also had twice the problems of Whites with the same low IQ. Rushtons notes lower impulse control.

      African Americans may need a different scooping system, suited to their different developmental and discipline needs.

      • JohnEngelman

        I subscribe to The New York Times.

        A number of years ago I read an essay in The New York Times that said that liberals do not want to be told bad things about blacks and homosexuals. The editors of The New York Times keep that in mind when they decide which stories to report, and how to report them.

        When The New York Times reports news stories that to not involve race I have found its journalism standards to be of the highest quality.

        My favorite columnist is Paul Krugman. His column runs in The New York Times on Monday and Friday. He teaches economics at Princeton. On 2008 he won the Nobel Prize for economics.

        • Charles Martel

          I also subscribe to the Times but steer clear of the Opinion page. Turbid nonsense for the most part!

          • JohnEngelman

            i enjoy investigating different points of view. I buy a newspaper for its op ed section.

        • Urbane Neanderthal

          Liberals don’t like it when you tell them the truth about many things.

          Race and homosexuality are just two of the most blatantly obvious delusions.

          The fact that the vast majority of HIV infections are in gay men and the fact that most women who are infected with HIV not from IDU can trace their infection to a bisexual male, really bother leftists.

          “NYC Women With Bisexual Partners Account for 3 in 4 HIV Diagnoses”
          hivplusmag DOT com/prevention/2014/01/03/nyc-women-bisexual-partners-account-3-4-hiv-diagnoses

          Many on the left comprehend the truth, but when truth doesn’t forward the agenda it is disregarded, destroyed, or denied in leftist philosophy.

          Liberal social and economic philosophies are just as delusional, but the evidence requires a deeper understanding of the subject than blacks score lower on IQ tests and commit more crime than whites to see the disconnect with reality.

          I commend you for allowing the truth about race to penetrate your left leaning philosophy, but challenge you to search inside yourself to explain (to yourself) why you give credence to the rest of the leftist ideology.

          • BlueSonicStreak

            Leftists are perfectly well aware that “homosexuals” (i.e. gay men) have high rates of HIV and other STIs. What’s bothersome about it is not so much that this is true, but when the right uses this as a trump card to suggest gays are some sort of inherently diseased people.

            Gay MEN have very high rates of infection because their sexual activities are more dangerous. Gay WOMEN have lower rates of infections than heterosexuals…again, because the kind of sex they have is inherently more safe. This is a function of biology.

          • What’s bothersome about it is not so much that this is true, but when the right uses this as a trump card to suggest gays are some sort of inherently diseased people.

            The number of rightists (in the general sense of the word) who actually make this argument because they actually believe it number approximately five. The only place where this argument is taken seriously is in the paranoid imaginations of leftists, who find it as a convenient organization and fund raising tool.

          • BlueSonicStreak

            Not buying it. My sister was dating a bisexual man at one point, and received quite a bit of blowback, including multiple comments along the lines of “ew, don’t you know those people are diseased.” People also referred to HIV as a “gay disease” when they discussed this with her.

            Calling an STI a “gay disease” speaks volumes.

          • Okay, I get it. You’re drawing some great macropolitical implications from some insulting comments that some people hurled at your sister.

          • BlueSonicStreak

            “Insulting”? No, they were “concerned”!

            But I guess pretending those comments were made in a vacuum makes more sense than pretending the stigma of disease isn’t a major arm of anti-gay activism.

          • Have you ever heard the phrase “you’re not really paranoid if they really are out to get you?”

            If you have, do you grok its real meaning?

          • BlueSonicStreak

            Funny, that’s my family’s favourite saying.

            I am deeply curious to know how you think it applies here. Deeply.

          • On one level, one could interpret the phrase literally and nothing more.

            But the real meaning of the phrase involves verbal irony.

            Those who are really paranoid and think that people are out to get them will always be able to find evidence of that, even if there is no evidence. If there are no snide remarks on the part of a few of somebody’s sister’s friends to serve as evidence, then they’ll be able to find evidence of a vast anti-gay conspiracy in the way blades of grass are growing, a burn pattern on toast, playing a Michael W. Smith song backwards, the numerology that one could glean from Focus on the Family’s financial statements.

            For many of the same reasons, ideological cultists will always be able to find some way to credit their cult ideology for everything that goes right and blame the lack of it for everything that goes wrong.

            On the left, the two groups bar none that are the worst about “you’re not paranoid if they really are out to get you” are gays and Jews.

          • BlueSonicStreak

            …Boy, I bet that made you feel like you were dispensing real kernels of wisdom there.

            Since awakening and finding my way here, one thing I have observed is that both the right and the left spend quite a bit of time speculating as to the mentality of the other side. Much ink is wasted on wildly fantasizing about why the enemy thinks what they do, and how they see the world. The idea that the right is full of fear and paranoia is what the left thinks, too! But if I miss one thing about being a leftist, it’s the belief that the world is getting better.

            Jews might be paranoid, but they have nothing on the Stormfront nuts who think that Jews cause the rain to fall on the day they planned an outing.

            I don’t believe acknowledging that anti-gay activists EXIST, that they use the stigma of disease nearly as much as association with pedophilia to generate fear of homosexuals, and that this really does filter down to many ordinary people, is “conspiracy.”

          • Carney3

            But that’s more true than the stupid “AIDS Doesn’t Discriminate” nonsense we were all force-fed for decades.

          • BlueSonicStreak

            In the sense that gay men have much higher rates of infection, AIDS deeply discriminates. In the sense that being heterosexual doesn’t give you any immunity from catching it though, it doesn’t – particularly not when engaging in sexual behaviours as risky as the ones known to spread disease among gay men. God knows I know plenty of heterosexuals having anal sex.

            I’m just at a loss here at the idea that leftists don’t know rates of infection are highest among gay men. I have literally never met a liberal who doesn’t know that, or consider it a problem for the gay community. Ever. Ask any gay man old enough to have been an adult in the 80s how many friends he buried.

          • JohnEngelman

            I commend you for allowing the truth about race to penetrate your left leaning philosophy, but challenge you to search inside yourself to explain (to yourself) why you give credence to the rest of the leftist ideology.

            – Urbane Neanderthal

            Believing as I do in the importance of genetics to the human situation pushes me in both directions politically. On one hand I do not believe that social reform and social welfare spending can solve problems caused by personal inadequacies.

            On the other hand, I see little moral significance in the distribution of wealth and income. The rich are not better people than the rest of us. They won at conception in the Grand IQ Sweepstakes.

            The Republican Party does little but to make life sweeter for those with the winning numbers.

          • SlizzardAjeosshi

            John i sincerely admire the fact you remain lucid enough to separate your views on the economy from your race realism.

            I incline right when it comes to economic issues (albeit i consider myself more of a center-of-right type than a pure free-market ideologue) but i acknowledge the fact that if we want race realism to take off and become at least more mainstream it can’t remain an issue forever limited to the far-right spectrum

          • JohnEngelman

            Political activists will usually have one or two issues they feel strongly about. On the basis of those one or two issues they will decide that they are right or left, conservative or liberal, Republican, Democrat, or something else. Then they will adopt the entire agenda.

            I did that when I was younger. Now I evaluate each issue on the merits of the issue. I feel ambivalent about some issues. Ambivalence prevents fanaticism.

            I try to prevent my emotions from influencing my reality perceptions. Sometimes it is difficult.

          • JohnEngelman

            Liberals don’t like it when you tell them the truth about many things.

            – Urbane Neanderthal

            Conservatives do not like to be told that tax cuts lead to budget deficits. They do not like to be told about man made global warming. Many conservatives believe that the earth is less than six thousand years old.

          • HE2

            Many conservatives believe that the earth is less than six thousand years old.

            A gross exaggeration, JE.
            In my experience, the only groups who hold this view are unsophisticated Christian fundamentalists. The same people who believe evolution and the ongoing astrophysical discoveries of our universe are demonic.
            I do not think these groups are representational of the average conservative.

          • JohnEngelman

            CBS NEWSDecember 30, 2013

            A poll out Monday shows that less than half – 43 percent – of those who identify with the Republican Party say they believe humans have evolved over time, plunging from 54 percent four years ago. Forty-eight percent say they believe “humans and other living things have existed in their present form since the beginning of time,” up from 39 percent in 2009.

          • HE2

            You are asking me to take a fifth column owned and controlled MSM published PEW poll seriously?
            Not in this life, John.

          • JohnEngelman

            CBS News and Pew Research are credible sources. Those who refuse to accept their honesty are beyond the range of logical debate.

          • HE2

            Ad hominem insults of another’s intelligence and critical thought capabilities are beneath an honorable man as you, John.

            Pew is sold out, leftist biased and not to trusted.
            PBS, BBC, NPR, CBS, NBC, MSNBC, Fox news reportages represent pseudo-journalism, all are an unfunny joke.
            I do not bother reading any of these tainted news outlets.
            All are controlled by the current White hating zeitgeist of corruption and dishonesty.
            There was a time when public opinion polls might have been a bit more reliable. Not anymore.

          • JohnEngelman

            If you have credible evidence that my sources are dishonest, please post it.

          • HE2

            There is no such animal as an unbiased, credible “poll,” John.
            Pollsters have a point to prove, including PEW, though it is allegedly a “think tank.”

            Given the current zeitgeist, do we really think an untainted, unbiased “think tank” could possibly be found?”
            I stand by my statement. No, I do not PEW “poll” results published by a lapdog network.

          • JohnEngelman

            Polling agencies established their credibility decades ago by accurately predicting election results. Those who do not accepting poll results are impossible to argue rationally with. They believe what they want to believe, and disregard the rest.

          • ThomasER916

            John Engleman is the fifth column. Read “The Culture of Critique.”

        • Paul Krugman is owned by the government, reports nonsense economics, and is just in general a liar. Winning a Nobel Prize means nothing as we saw with Obama’s Nobel Prize. Meaningless. It’s just political maneuvering. Take with a grain of salt anything that Krugman writes. It’s nothing but government propaganda.

        • Tarczan

          I agree, mostly. They have very good writers, and the stories just seem to flow well. I only read the on-line version and when I do, I really like the science, health and fitness sections.

          I consider the rest propaganda.

          • HE2

            I only read online NYT film and theater reviews, an occasional Op Ed piece if it is half way responsible.
            The sinister liberal OEs are apoplexy inducing.

          • JohnEngelman

            What is propaganda?

            I enjoy investigating different points of view. The only thing I demand of someone is that he not lie. If The New York Times prints something that is not true, that is a mistake, and it prints a retraction.

            Rush Limbaugh has made a career telling his dittoheads lies they want to believe. Nothing he says can be trusted. FOX News won a lawsuit protecting its right to lie.

          • sophiepeaches

            Oh, really, wise one?

        • RationaliseThis

          Not a cent of money of mine will go to it.

        • sophiepeaches

          Yeah, and BO won the Nobel prize for ‘peace.’ So what?

          • JohnEngelman

            Barack Obama also won my vote.

          • throttler

            More fool you.

  • See The Future

    Blacks sure do like our white women though.

  • RationaliseThis

    The only real question is this: how do we stop the New York Times from being so consistantly dishonest, misleading, defaming.

    The article is most definitely NOT about dealing with, or trying to help with a social problem in the Black community.

    It’s entirely about blaming and demonising Whites. It does so implicitly but the objective is clear: It wants Blacks and Whites to be angry at each other.

  • NW

    I find it funny that half-breeds are considered black in the USA. In Africa, the true black Africans do not consider mulattoes to be like them. In South Africa for instance, mixed-race people are called “coloured”, which is a separate racial category from “black African”.

    It’s always quite amusing when you hear of American blacks going to the “motherland” to get in touch with their “roots”, only to be called white by the real black African natives!

    • Itooktheredpill

      I have always thought how strange the racial classification system is in the USA. Hybrids are precisely that…hybrids…and it shows why not classify them more accurately.

      • Carney3

        It’s not strange at all. The one drop rule has been very valuable in preventing miscegenation.

  • NW

    The funny thing is, “African-Americans” are so mixed, that most of them would not be considered black in Africa. Many black Americans are shocked when they hear of the concept of “coloured” which exists in South Africa. It shatters their whole 1-drop rule mindset which defines their identity as “black”.

    • The color line one-drop rule was our idea, instinctively to protect a couple hundred thousand years of the evolution of our people.

      • NW

        Evolution huh? Mmmm, funny, most evolutionists have no problem with race mixing. After all, we are all decendants of apes from the African continent, right?

        • Bossman

          If we are not descended from apes then what? Are we a special creation from a guy who planted a garden east of Eden?

          • NW

            That’s right.

          • ElComadreja

            We have a common ancestor with apes. We’re not descended from them. The same applies to negros.

        • We’re not all descended from African apes. I believe in evolution and I have a BIG problem with race mixing. It’s dysgenic.

          • NW

            Good luck with that. And good luck trying to establish a “white homeland” in America founded on atheistic principles. This is why in Orania South Africa, the first building that was built was a Church.

          • MikeofAges

            Bjorn Kurten “Not from Apes”. The thesis is, humans and great apes all are descended from some unknown stem animal. The great apes are evolutionary dead end offshoots of the main line. Human subtypes also could turn into dead ends. You know. You know. The question is, who or what is the stem and who or what is the dead end? You know. You know. I don’t.

          • Bossman

            Maybe it is the creature from the Black Lagoon.

    • Pro-Apartheid

      That is true. During Apartheid the mongrels did not fit into any homeland, so it was hard to determine which tribe to place them into. Even Nelson Mandela was not a pure black, he is from the Xhosa tribe, which is a mixed tribe of Bantus and Khoisan. If you look at Mandelas face closely, especially around his eyes, you can actually see the mongoloid mixture from his Khoisan heritage.

      • Bossman

        The Bushmen also look mongoloid and they are the ones that are supposed to have migrated to Europe where they interbred with Neanderthals to produce handsome white men.

        • benvad

          Bushmen is the name Europeans gave to both groups Khoi and the San peoples. Apparently it’s not just one ethnicity.

          They’ve found out Afrikaners have some San ancestry (matrilineally), that’s we have the result of the Laing girl of South Africa.

      • pcmustgo

        Ya. He looks half black half Asian and had lighter brown skin

  • superlloyd

    Yawn. These idiot leftwing researchers, instead of looking at correlations such as dark skin colour v light skin colour in suspension rates, should look at why the ‘innocent’ young darkies were suspended. This is causation and therefore explanatory.

    Disparate impact occurs because of disparate behaviours amongst different groups not because of discrimination. Typical leftist intellectual dishonesty.

    • HE2

      Typical leftist intellectual dishonesty.

      Inability or unwillingness to acknowledge causality and effect dynamic.
      White liberals who are more intelligent, the latter; blacks and browns, low IQs, the former.

  • David Ashton

    Segregation by race and gender can be psychologically beneficial all round.

  • robinbishop34

    I’ll admit, I attend a local community college (don’t laugh it’s not that easy), but anyway there is a very light skinned and cute black girl who has attached herself to me ever since I helped her with some work sometime ago.

    In these classes you have to count off 1,2,3,4… as you go down the rows. Then all the ones gather in a group, the twos in a group, etc for various discussions on whatever the topic may be that particular day. I’m always in her group and she is very soft spoken, always smiling, very polite, and very serious about her work. I have to say that she wears cute clothes and always has a cute bag… nothing ghetto or gaudy.

    In another class I had this big black mama who was obnoxious and rude as hell. She would blurt out and be disruptive, had an hostile attitude, and needless to say lasted about 4 weeks before she stopped coming to class.

    • The Dude

      Oh yeah those big black aggressive mamas, real sweethearts.

      • robinbishop34

        Yep…. that’s about it.

      • Douglas Quaid

        It reminds me of a conversation I was privileged to overhear between a few blacks at work, the conflict in Syria was on the news and one of them remarked, “Who is Suh-ria anyway?” The other replied, “I dunno someone Obama mad at I think.” Me and my buddies laughed the rest of the day at that one.

    • robin, don’t apologize for attending a local community college! If you’re taking legitimate college courses (not black studies, gay studies, or women’s studies, etc.) your education will be as sound as one from major state universities.

      • robinbishop34

        Thank you! Business/Marketing 🙂 I’ll be transferring to University Missouri St. Louis next winter semester.

  • disqus_Xz3UA6obwj

    “And researchers say that within minority groups, darker-skinned girls are disciplined more harshly than light-skinned ones.”

    I love how the so called “researchers” automatically attribute the differences in harsh discipline to the behavior of the school and not the behavior of the darker skinned girls who warrant harsher punishment for their actions.

    “Another thing the girls have in common is dark skin color, which researchers at Villanova University say affects the likelihood of being suspended.”
    In other words, dark skin people are more unruly and therefore more likely to be suspended. Great job researchers. That took some real detective work to figure out!

  • Black Swan

    “while black boys are seen as threatening, black girls are often seen as “unsophisticated, hypersexualized and defiant.”

    She’s got that part right.

    They brought in a bunch of racist theorists to psyco-babble away and justify violent black behavior as nothing more than a reaction to White racism.

    White parents need to shun public schools and vote down any/all school bonds.

  • crockadoodle6

    ‘…from 2011 to 2012, black girls in public elementary and secondary schools nationwide were suspended at a rate of 12 percent,’. despite:
    1. Many of these girls are in schools with black administrators and pripcipals who are lazy, worthless quota monkeys and wouldn’t suspend a black murderer.
    2. Go to schools with pc white principals
    3. go to schools with white principals too afraid to ‘offend’ the current narrative.
    4. many of the girls are either older because they have failed or more mature since blacks are breeding age sooner.
    5. The MSM and fed funded research is about the agenda, not truth.
    So that 12% should probably be 25%.

  • Cannot Tell

    This article reminds me of a comment I read years ago on a race realism website. A white person who wondered if it would be better for whites to allow a small number of white women to mix in with blacks. The mulatto offspring of such unions would be less intelligent than white children but still much smarter and less criminal than black children. It’s possible that whites would be safer with more mulattoes and fewer blacks in the country.

    • OTOH, more mulattos means more civil rights agitators.

      • Cannot Tell

        You’re right. I didn’t think about that.

    • JohnEngelman

      I have a better idea. Let’s discontinue Temporary Assistance for Needy Families.

      • joanofamerica

        NOOOOOO, ok, that you can kill. I’M in the AA capitol of the world. We don’t get free housing, cash or most importantly, decent jobs unless you’re college ejumacated and among the young white males with college, you don’t get jobs unless you’re hooked to someone important. White women (uneducated) can still get jobs but they’re not good ones so we have to support the white males (don’t go there, young people falling in love and having babies before they can support them, how longs that been going on?). They WANT (the males) to work, just get tired of working with the blacks and non whites. Anyway, the gracious AA human resource workers will hand out foodstamps to white women (as long as you’re not making over 10 an hour)I am sooooo grateful that my 27% tax dollars were there for my daughter when she needed them. Just don’t ask for help with your housing.or medicine. so don’t kill the foodstamps part, a lot of whites need it now, and its about all we might get. On second thought, go ahead, she isn’t re-applying. Whites don’t grovel well and she probably lost more in time off than they gave her for a family of four. They do make us jump down here. Maybe we can fix it so that only wealthy whites have babies? oh, they don’t. personaly, I was just happy my kids mated white.

    • Roninf9

      Most blacks in the USA already have White DNA in them. Many are up to 25% White.

      • Whitetrashgang

        25% of blacks are half white or more, and that was 15 years ago.

    • Carney3

      For the same effort involved, simply require IUDs with welfare.

  • Urbane Neanderthal

    “black girls are often seen as “unsophisticated, hypersexualized and defiant.”
    Or you mean as they actually are?

  • Wow, this is really stupid, nothing but propaganda! Black students are disciplined when they break rules. Black students’ behavior is the only reason they are disciplined. Wake up to reality, who ever wrote this idiotic article. I don’t believe there was any research. It sounds more like someone made up this junk!! It’s just junk. Not even junk science. There’s no science in this. It’s idiot liberals making up shiit to cause more problems.

    • JohnEngelman

      The article was written by someone who never had to sit in a classroom of blacks day after day, trying to learn or to teach that mass of incivility.

  • E7 sharp 9

    A little time spent perusing You Tube videos depicting black females fighting and generally acting uncivilized would go a long way of explaining why darker skinned females are meted out harsher punishments in public schools.

  • Conrad

    Could this be because they are ‘assuming’ that the behavior the girls is the same?

  • Speedy Steve

    Not that this is related to TNB, but here’s something about mohammedans:
    http://wikiislam[dot]net/wiki/Muslim_Statistics_-_Rituals_and_Festivals

  • Speedy Steve

    … and began cutting herself with soda can tops

    Too poor to afford sharp objects?

    National Longitudinal Surveys of Youth — a government project undertaken by the Bureau of Labor Statistics, a division of the US Department of Labor. Now read on …
    http://National Longitudinal Surveys of Youth

    • HE2

      began cutting herself with soda can tops

      Cardinal symptom of Borderline Personality Disorder, Axis 2 diagnosis.
      IME, a large percentage of black females, if not psychotic outright, fight the profile for BPD.
      Intensity of emotions, poor impulse control, acting out behaviors, a need to maintain chaos and drama in social milieu and interpersonal relationships.

  • james AZ

    In 2000. 2,224,181 blacks enrolled in colleges same time 3,610,300 black inmates in prisons. Nearly 60% of high school dropouts had prison records. What about 2014 update???????? BLACK LIVE MATTER. Huh

    • JohnEngelman

      Bob Herbert used to be the black columnist for The New York Times. Once he wrote a column for The Times pointing out that black high school dropouts are more likely to go to prison than black college graduates. His solution was to make it easier for blacks to graduate from high school and college.

      Bob Herbert was good at describing problems. His solutions were lacking.

      • He didn’t think things through very well. If he would have gotten what he wanted, all that would have resulted in is more high school graduates winding up in prison.

        • JohnEngelman

          He would have gotten more college graduates in prison.

          Basketball players are usually tall. Nevertheless, no one argues that playing basketball makes one tall.

      • Dave West

        If you make medical school easier to get into the number of people with doctorate degrees in America could increase X100!

  • Speedy Steve

    In case you’re wondering, some Henry County stats.
    http://quickfacts[dot]census[dot]gov/qfd/states/13/13151.html
    54% White, 39.6% African not exactly paradise, but better then Hot-lanta.

  • Roninf9

    ‘black boys are seen as threatening, black girls are often seen as “unsophisticated, hypersexualized and defiant.’

    That’s because black boys are threatening and black girls are unsophisticated, hypersexualized and defiant.

    Racism = acknowledging reality

  • Carney3

  • Douglas Quaid

    It’s so pathetic how they have to spin everything that should be an indictment against blacks and black “culture” into alleged evidence of discrimination. In all of my high school years I never remember seeing the girls get into physical fights, sure they argued, gossiped, and had their groups but it never went to blows. This is because my High School was about 99% white, and that’s not an exaggeration.

    If my experience and the surfeit of youtube videos are in anyway a reflection of how young black females behave, then I am not in the slightest bit surprised that they get suspended and expelled at a far higher rate than their white counterparts.

  • De’Ontavious Jizzaiah Jones

    Black girls are seen as unsophisticated, hypersexualized and defiant because that’s exactly what they are. I have been a direct witness and victim of it. So tired of these nonsense articles like the other article showing states with most bias against blacks just happened to those states with the most black residents.

  • Heiny Hidmeid

    Do they actually have a skin shade chart? Is it just for negroes or for all races? Sounds like the US Dept. of Education could be eliminated.

    • jane johnson

      Here’s the dirty little secret about the black “community” : they do indeed have a “shade chart”, and except for sports and entertainment, pale will prevail. Think about that. There has been a concerted effort to incorporate White DNA into the “community” for decades, and it wasn’t because miscegenation was safer than sunshine for getting a tan.

  • Da Troof

    My god. Read the comments. Puke.

  • It seems dysgenic to me, because whites procreating with blacks is contributing to a degeneration or deterioration in the fitness and quality of the white race. With all its foibles and missteps throughout history, the white race is still the most productive, creative, benevolent, & enterprising on earth. Diluting that with a substandard race’s characteristics is extremely detrimental.

    • Jem

      Maybe you should tell that to all the race-mixers who Jared Taylor invites to his AmRen conferences each year. Race-mixers such as John Derbyshire with his yellow fever problem and mongrelized children as a result.
      I’ve never been to an AmRen conference, but i hear there are many men in the audience with mestizo and asian wives. And these are the people who supposedly want to preserve white America, yet they can’t even preserve their own bloodline.

      • I see your point, but Asians and Spanish don’t have substandard characteristics.

        • antiquesunlight

          Mestizos do.

          • Yes they do. But I’m thinking that probably most whites wouldn’t be interested in Mestizos

          • antiquesunlight

            Well, Hispanic Whites are white, so being with them isn’t miscegenation. It’s only miscegenation if you’re with mestizos.