I Rise Today in Support of the NYPD

Bryan Fischer, One News Now, December 5, 2014

Eric Garner, a 43-year-old father of six, is dead. This is a tragedy, regardless of the circumstances. We rightly mourn with his wife and children. They will never see their husband and father again, and that should break everyone’s heart.

When we witness a gut-rending tragedy like this, we want to know who is responsible. Who is to blame for depriving this family of its husband and father? As the facts emerge, it becomes increasingly clear that, as tragic as this situation is, in the end the culpability for Eric Garner’s death rests with Eric Garner.

To put it as simply as possible, if Mr. Garner had not broken the law and then resisted arrest, he would be alive today.

While protesters are trying to make this about race, it must be noted that the police showed up in response to complaints from black business owners. The arrest was ordered by a black officer, and the arrest itself was supervised by a black officer, a female sergeant.

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{snip} It’s also worth noting that the 23-member grand jury which refused to indict the arresting officer included nine non-white members. Ask yourself how many of those facts you have heard from any member of the race-obsessed, low-information media.

Garner had been arrested 31 times, and eight of those had been for selling loosies. His rap sheet goes back decades and includes arrests for assault and grand larceny.

At the time of his death, Garner was out on bail after being charged with multiple offenses, including illegal sale of cigarettes, marijuana possession, false impersonation and driving without a license.

So he certainly knew the law, knew he was in violation, and knew doing it again would likely lead to his arrest, a drill he’d been through dozens of times before.

There were 228,000 misdemeanor arrests in New York City in 2013, the last year for which figures are available. All of them put together led to precisely zero deaths.

Garner, all six-foot, three inches and 350 pounds of him, clearly resisted arrest, swatting away the arresting officer’s hands while loudly exclaiming, “Don’t touch me!” After he was taken to the ground, he growled, “This ends here!” That could be taken any number of ways, but in the heat of the moment it certainly could be read reasonably as a declaration that he was going to fight arrest until he was subdued by compelling force.

The patrolman who wrestled Garner to the ground, Daniel Pantaleo, did it by the book, using a takedown maneuver every policeman is taught at the academy. He did not, in fact, use a chokehold, which is defined by the NYPD as “any pressure to the throat or windpipe, which may prevent or hinder breathing or reduce intake of air.” Now Garner was clearly able to breathe, since that’s the only way he could repeatedly say, “I can’t breathe.”

The autopsy explicitly declares that there was no injury to Garner’s windpipe or to his neck bones. This was a wrestler’s headlock, not a chokehold. (As a sidenote, chokeholds, while contrary to police policy, are not in fact illegal in the state of New York when an officer uses one to restrain a resisting subject. They are not even illegal in New York City, at the insistence of liberal mayor Bill DeBlasio.) Patrolman Pantaleo was not indicted for the simple reason that he did nothing wrong.

Garner’s death likely should be attributed to the fact that he himself suffered from severe asthma, something the arresting officers had no reason to know. According to Garner’s friends, his asthma was severe enough that he was forced to quit his job as horticulturist for the city. He wheezed when he talked and could not walk so much as a city block without having to stop to rest. Garner “couldn’t breathe” because of his asthma, not because of a chokehold.

In addition, he suffered from heart disease, advanced diabetes, hypertension, obesity and sleep apnea. Contrary to public perception, he did not die on site, nor did he die of asphyxiation. He suffered cardiac arrest in the ambulance and was declared dead about an hour later at the hospital.

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Eric Garner and Michael Brown both fought the law, and the law won. In the end, they have no one to blame but themselves.

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  • Daniel

    I was saying this from the get go, but the natural response of everyone was to buy into the media narrative yet again, even after some of the saw the truth about Michael Brown. Why are there so many white suckers out there? Even if they’re correct, you shouldn’t give them an inch of credibility.

    • Alexandra1973

      That’s why I tend to hold off on any judgment for a while, until more information is available.

      • Tarczan

        After first viewing the video, I thought the cops were wrong. I’ve changed my mind.

        • Blacks are a very reliable negative indicator.

        • archer

          I still think it was uncalled for, they were revenuers plain and simple. He was tired of being harassed for making a lousy few bucks in a city that is one of the most expensive in the U.S.A., meanwhile only a few miles from Queens where I think this happened there are some real criminals in downtown Manhattan like Jamie Diamond who stole over a billion from bank customers and of course he didn’t go jail. He was too big to jail, along with the rest of the crooks that helped collapse the economy in ’08, think of all the investors that were hit hard and lost big in their 401k’s and other investments. Round two is coming, they now want their phony derivatives insured by the FDIC, in other words the taxpayers. We’re so far down the rat hole we don’t even realize it, the colonists rebelled in part because of two innocuous taxes the stamp act and the tea tax, of course there were other reasons, but today there is a tax on everything. I just don’t think the cigarette tax is worth a man’s life.

          • bilderbuster

            The US will be looted and turned into Weimar Germany but not until we have been flooded with enough non-Whites to keep the Whites from uniting and resisting this time.

          • Raydonn

            Hopefully the result will be the same as it was in Germany.

          • propagandaoftruth

            The cops were doing their job and Mr. Garner had some understanding of the job related risks he was undertaking. Or did he?

            As pointed out above his entire life was a study in foolishness and sloth, and the fact that his obese, unhealthy body finally gave out on arrest number 32…

            Makes me shed not a single tear. What I find amazing is the cojones exhibited by the NYPD in doing what was right in response to the witch hunting bongo party that must inevitably result.

            Police departments around the country could take a lesson. Funny when a union is actually conservative and opposes Marxist idiocy. Can be right effective.

      • IBWHITE

        I learned long ago to never, ever believe anything a Black says. Not long after that I learned to doubt everything the American media reports.

    • John R

      Whenever it is a story involving race, I now instinctively assume the media are lying until I know the truth.

      • bilderbuster

        If you want the truth about Black people you can always trust Jewish owned networks and publications because they’re always looking after the interests of Whites.

        • mael

          Got news…. jews aint’ White.

    • Douglas Quaid

      Right, the default mode needs to be unyielding cynicism and suspicion for anything the j-wsmedia churns out.

  • JohnEngelman

    Don’t do the crime if you can’t do the time.

    • I think that’s a rather flippant comment. Let’s see you overreact after being cheated out of $625,000. tell a smart-mouth FBI agent to butt out, and see how you are after doing three years.

      • me

        I think that statement was directed at Negroes, but I could be wrong….
        BTW, glad to hear about your ex-father. Schadenfreude! May vexations of demons send him to his final unrest….

  • TheCogitator

    This is not a race issue, but I do not see why the police arrest people for non-violent infractions. Just give a citation to appear in court an move on. The way the police see fit to arrest people both black and white for the smallest violations, it is apparent that there is a potential death sentence with every law. Right now, the police are not peacekeepers, and they seem to be at war with the people they are supposed to protect and serve.

    • John R

      Another big silverback Negro has bit the dust. That is good enough for me.

      • TheCogitator

        Yes, but the police are at war with white people too.

        • True. Kelly Thomas would be alive had not Fullerton Police beat the life out of him.

        • Vyncennt

          Although there are exceptions, in general, the police are only at war with white people that are breaking the law and/or looking for war.

          • adplatt126

            Absolutely false. The whole system is at war with the existence of the white race. Civil rights laws, hate crime laws, the paid protection of the feudal overclass, forced integration, endless propaganda etc, The police are at war with sense, justice, freedom, all of it. They happen to also serve a useful public function, but that’s secondary to the tyrannical state they protect and defend.

          • Vyncennt

            Every example you listed is legislated and enforced on the Federal level. The local police have little (not none…little) to do with any of these “crimes” and every one of them that I know (and I’m friendly with quite a few) would be more than welcome here on this forum.

            I’ve seen and read about plenty of examples of poor police conduct. There’s no denying that. Yet you could say the same of any profession and likely find more examples percentage wise.

          • adplatt126

            Is it not the police who protect banks from righteous mobs? Do cops not enforce hate crime legislation? If one wanted to resist the tyrannical Federal Government, would local cops just sit back and watch? Much of it is Federal, but much of America’s transformation was carried out by willful or passive support from local law enforcement.

          • Vyncennt

            “Is it not the police who protect banks from righteous mobs”

            Is it not the duty of police to protect ALL business from mobs? All mobs? Or shall they begin deciding, on their own, which causes are right and which are wrong? Perhaps they will neglect to protect your workplace because they disagree with your views?

            “Do cops not enforce hate crime legislation?”

            The determination of a “hate crime” is not performed whatsoever at the local level. A policeman will arrest you for assault. Whether or not the charge of “hate crime” is added is not a local decision.

            ” If one wanted to resist the tyrannical Federal Government, would local cops just sit back and watch?”

            That we won’t know until there is a widespread resistance to our Federal government. If there is no cause to assist or resist, would you have them make these decisions at the personal level, so they can be individually destroyed financially…with no protections whatsoever?

            “much of America’s transformation was carried out by willful or passive support from local law enforcement.”

            And that may prove true again….or it may not. I’d suggest you get to know some of your local police officers before you judge them so harshly. Get to know them GOOD and you may find their ideals mirror your own much closer than you believe.

          • adplatt126

            1) Is it immoral to prevent mobs from taking back billions of dollars stolen from them by a rogue government? Yes. That’s my position. There’s nothing legitimate about any government that steals hundreds of billions of dollars to give it to feudal overlords. I don’t care the justification. It’s wantonly immoral on a historic level. Mobs and revolutions are sometimes justified. The American revolution for example was a justified act of insurrection.

            2) That’s just false. Hate crimes charges are often state legislated, and are in fact determined by local law enforcement and courts.
            3) No, they don’t. Because to fight for the American super-state or its laws, takes a deluded, false nobility. Simple as that. You’re right, most of them probably have their principles. The problem is they support a very evil, criminal government, and so despite their principles, they’re no better than terrorists. Indeed, they’re far worse despite the illusory similarity of their ideals to mine. Much like terrorism, it’s not merely the act that decides its morality, but the intent and the result. Any cop, even a moderately moral one, that defends the American super-state is in the end, which he must do in order to be a cop, is a fundamentally bad person. It may be harsh, but it’s true. Many Tories were ordinary, moderately ethical folks as well. They were just wrong morally.

          • Vyncennt

            *sigh*

            I cannot continue to answer every one of your points, as at a certain point, we’ll be writing novels to each other. So let me attempt to briefly respond in a more generalized manner….

            You may believe that we disagree on most things, especially politically, or involving the current state of our nation. This would not be true. Although I think that you see some situations in a harsher light than they may merit…at the core…we agree.

            Where we disagree is at two key areas:

            (1) You believe that the government steals our money and gives it to rich. I believe this also…but only to a point. I find it hard to ignore that our greatest expenditure (as of a couple years ago, that is) is now welfare programs. Once Medicaid (not Medicare, mind you) is factored in, even our national defense expenditures (#2 on the list, btw) fall behind. Seeing as the vast majority of our taxes are paid by the rich, I cannot say with any degree of honesty, that the government simply steals from the middle class and gives to the rich. I believe the government steals from both the rich and the middle class…to fully subsidize the poor and partially subsidize the rich.

            (2) You appear to believe that every policeman must be morally judged by his enforcing of any current law you find morally reprehensible or unprincipled. Although I respect a principled man, I also understand the realities of trying to mold the current state of affairs to an ideology that is not currently supported by any rebellion or faction in power. Any police officer who does not comply will find himself ruined with no support of a friendly rebellion. They will make no difference with their individual sacrifice, yet pay the ultimate price.

            Our “side” has not formed a coalition. There is no organized resistance to side with…to support…to fight for. Until there is something else to choose, I will not pass judgement on any man for not choosing it.

      • E7 sharp 9

        Damn John R! Silverback Gorillas are magnificent beasts that are loyal to the death for family/community. What an insult you have laid upon these great apes, comparing them to the average American Porch Monkey.

        • John R

          I apologize. I realize that my remark was unnecessarily speciesist and I did not mean to offend any gorillas out there.

    • Sick of it

      Another perspective – Why bother putting your life or limbs at risk fighting like a wild animal against them? Blacks do this every single day. White people call their lawyers, which could lead to a successful lawsuit if the cops did anything wrong. Blacks seem to prefer suicide by cop.

      If they came in guns blazing, tried to take away your constitutionally protected firearms, etc., then I would understand a stronger reaction. Blacks always run when the cops come after them. They always treat cops like garbage. They pick fights with cops. They physically attack cops. Really, they do everything stupid that is possible when dealing with the police or any armed individual, generally.

      • paul kersey

        it is because they are on drugs

      • TheCogitator

        Because blacks have lower IQs and poor impulse control they are involved with the police more and commit the most violent acts that make the news. So I agree with what you have said about them. But please observe how the police are militarized and they often behave in a thuggish manner. They seem to be at war with us. They may have the most conflict with blacks, but they will prey on whites too. This is much like blacks who love to prey on whites, but will also attack their own kind. Never think the police are your friend. Do not trust them. They are not peacekeepers. If asked, they will say they are in law enforcement. They are out to charge as many people with the most serious crimes they can get away with. They consider you as an enemy. You would do well to think of them as the enemy too.

    • Vyncennt

      “but I do not see why the police arrest people for non-violent infractions.”

      Stealing your wallet is non-violent as is sitting on the steps of your daughters school shooting heroin.

  • JohnEngelman

    Eric Garner, a 43-year-old father of six, is dead.

    – Bryan Fischer, One News Now, December 5, 2014

    I wonder if any of those children were legitimate. I wonder if he supported any of them.

    • You are paying taxes to support them, and each will produce another six.

      • JohnEngelman

        That is why I am in favor of eliminating Temporary Assistance for Needy Families.

        • Da Troof

          Wait, the N stands for needy?

          • Born_In_The_Pineywoods

            I didn’t know that either!

    • Vyncennt

      Why should he when you will? =)

      • theoldsargesays

        “Why should he when you will are being forced to by your own government? =)

        (fixed that for you.)

        • Vyncennt

          Pffft! I remember specifically voting to pay more out of my paycheck so that others can drink 40’s and smoke pot on their porches!

    • theoldsargesays

      Selling “loosies” on the street….I doubt it.

  • Luca

    Yet every liberal media outlet in the country was screaming; “CHOKE HOLD – White Cop – Black Victim!!!!”

    I was trained to use the ‘choke hold” and this article correctly states that had he been administered a choke hold he would not be able to talk and at best, he might be able to gurgle.

    But as I have always stated, facts, evidence, science, common sense and logic mean nothing to a liberal.

    • John R

      “Choke hold”; “I can’t breath”; “hands up, don’t shoot”; “unarmed black teen.” Yep, the liberal news media is so good at the catch phrases.

    • Yancy Derringer

      It’s disgusting how the media have handled this, especially placing it front and center as a racial incident, a deliberate lie, as these reporters knew about the supervising black sergeant and all the rest. The grossest tragedy is that truth, to our biggest media, is but an inconvenience to be ignored, to be lied about, when it runs contrary to their social and political activism.

      • Luca

        Well said,

      • Part of the problem is that college-age “social activists” are attracted after they graduate to careers in media and education, much the way child-molesters are attracted to playgrounds, parks and swimming pools.

  • antiquesunlight

    This is the most lucid, fact based discussion of the case I’ve read yet.

    • Fighting_Northern_Spirit

      Our commenter bluffcreek1967 has had excellent posts about this subject too, but yeah, it’s nice to see similar ideas from a news outlet.

    • Yancy Derringer

      “This is the most lucid, fact based discussion of the case I’ve read yet.”

      A New York Times reporter would argue: “Yeah, but that’s only because he’s telling the truth.”

  • superlloyd

    ‘To put it as simply as possible, if Mr. Garner had not broken the law and then resisted arrest, he would be alive today.’
    This is what all these libtard and black idiot protesters can’t process but it isn’t exactly rocket science.

    • Garner was out on bail for doing the same thing for what he was accosted for in the encounter that led to his heart-attack.

      • paul kersey

        yes. that means he would have gotten a way higher bail and had to wait at least a month or two for trial in jail. which is why he as well as mike brown resisted arrest. plus they were high on drugs

        • Riker’s Island – the NYC jail – probably isn’t much fun, which would neatly account for his lack of enthusiasm at the prospect of going back. Maybe the idiot should have decided to “retire” and stay home with his kids, or (gasp) looked for work. In his miserable physical condition, he was probably already collecting a nice SSDI check each month, as well as the usual TANF, SNAP, Section-8, AFDC and other tax-funded “gibsmedats”. His effective take-home was probably more than mine, even without his criminal income “supplements”.

  • Steve_in_Vermont

    It appears many in our society cannot wait for all the facts to come out. But then these people have a bias and will write a narrative to fill in the blanks to conform to their prejudices. Grand juries, in these cases at least, hear all the evidence and deliberate until they feel comfortable making a decision. I believe most people also feel this way, but their not in the media nor do they demonstrate or riot.

    • John R

      Thank you! And the grand juries HEAR ALL THE EVIDENCE, without the media spin. Most people just go by the local media. That is unless they are wise, and/or they are regulars on sites like this one. Remember the old saying: “All I know is what I read in the papers.” Updated, it could be “see on the TV”, or at MSNBC, but you get the idea.

      • Spikeygrrl

        You’re still one lap behind. Today it’s “read on Drudge” or “watched on Breitbart.”

        • John R

          Showing my age, I guess. LOL.

          • Spikeygrrl

            I’m no spring chicken myself 😉

  • SlizzardAjeosshi

    The refreshing, pleasant feeling of well-documented and well-written journalism

  • Lee_CPA

    “At the time of his death, Garner was out on bail after being charged with multiple offenses, including illegal sale of cigarettes, marijuana possession, false impersonation and driving without a license.”
    .
    People want to make this out as though Garner was being arrested for merely selling loose cigarettes. Partly true, but one of the terms of your release on bail is that you DO NOT COMMIT ANY MORE CRIMES.
    .
    I agree with others – this was a well written, logical post of the facts pertaining to Garner’s death.

    • The driving without a license charge has different gradations in some states. For instance, driving on revocation after a previous DUI conviction can be major-league trouble, and much more serious than simply not having a license.

  • IstvanIN

    To put it as simply as possible, if Mr. Garner had not broken the law and then resisted arrest, he would be alive today.
    For most blacks not simple enough.

  • TruthBeTold

    Eric Garner, a 43-year-old father of six, is dead.

    And he supported himself and his family by selling loosies.

    • Urbane Neanderthal

      Correction:
      He supported his Big Mac and malt liquor habit selling loosies.

      I’m sure the taxpayer fed, clothed, educated, and probably provided rent/utility subsidies for his spawn.

    • John R

      And probably other criminal activity and the public dole.

      • TruthBeTold

        Agree. Loosies were just the front.

        He was likely into cigarette smuggling and fencing. And he was likely the go to man for connections to drug dealers and prostitution.

        These guys aren’t just petty criminals. They’re the doorway to everything worse.

        That’s why you have to go after these people. If you don’t you embolden them and crime will escalate. That’s why white neighborhoods are better than black neighborhoods. White neighborhoods shut these people down as soon as they become visible. Black neighborhoods usually let these guys hand out in front of their stores and and street corners all day. ‘Ain’t none of my business what they doin’.’

        • Blacks are proud to be involved in illicit activities.

          • paul kersey

            31 arrests is a career criminal

          • I believe in Japan it would be impossible to be arrested 31 times.
            At some point in time, the key to the jail gets broken off.

        • “He was likely into cigarette smuggling…”

          Ding, ding, ding, we have a winner! A common racket in New York (and elsewhere) is buying untaxed cigarettes on Indian reservations and then re-selling them at a very nice profit. A group of Arabs in the Chicago area was caught doing this some years ago and the feds picked up the case. Because of the volume (and thus the amount of money) involved, I believe it was prosecuted as a felony.

    • Douglas Quaid

      Meh, to a certain extant I find that commendable, he is skirting around oppressive tax laws, and for that I salute him. The rest of his life seems to be the story of a wastrel loser though.

      I mean, what rational person decides to resist arrest when you are outnumbered 5 to 1? The guy was an idiot, and died the death of an idiot.

      • paul kersey

        he was trying to get a beatdown to win the ghetto lottery but it went too far. either way the biggest lesson from this and the mike brown is to not smoke.

  • Carl Koch

    The hyoid was not broken nor was the trachea damaged. This man was not strangled to death, he had heart attack due to his obesity and general poor physical condition. It is highly unlikely that a fit 43 year old man would have died from wrestling with the police while resisting arrest. I blame the M.E. for not making this clear and the media for running it up the flag pole.

    • John R

      The M.E. was probably following orders from higher ups. There was no “Quincy” here.

      • That would require a medical examiner who was willing to face felony charges and the end of his career if discovered falsifying a report. While that is a possibility in NYC, it strongly suggests that the M.E. was also a NAM affirmative action diversity-hire.

        It is far easier for me to believe that a 350-pound lard-ball with heart disease and diabetes died of a heart attack.

    • It is unlikely that a normal 43 year old man with an iota of common sense would have been committing the same offense for which he was already out on bail, let alone resisted arrest – over a misdemeanor no less – in the first place.

  • Bon, From the Land of Babble

    Whether you like NY cigarette taxes or not, it was Garner’s decision to resist arrest.

    Garner – like Trayvon and the Gentle Giant – made their choices and paid with their lives.

    What the msm won’t tell you:

    From GotNews com

    http //gotnews com/breaking-ericgarner-least-8-domestic-incident-reports-filed/

    ’There are other sealed arrests that you can’t see,’ our police source told us. ‘Police were well acquainted with Garner in the neighborhood.’

    Street thug Eric Garner had at least eight domestic incident reports filed against him, including several for unwanted sexual touching.

    One of them even involved throwing his newborn grandchild and his daughter out of his car

    In 2009 [Garner] was arrested for forcible touching of the genitals [of a victim].

    Garner had another sexual touching incident report but our police source did not know what that charge was for. Garner was also picked up for possession of narcotics with a ‘dangerous tag,’ an offense that means the drugs could be ‘oxy or meth.’

    Garner also got busted for false impersonation, or giving a false name to the police [during his most recent arrest]…The rest of the incident reports concerned his involvement in local organized crime and the untaxed cigarette trade.

    Garner was also picked up driving with a suspended license multiple times.

  • John R

    That sounds more like it. There is one thing that saddens me, though about this story. It is this: That they mentioned this idiotic useless criminal scofflaw, had six damn kids! The wrong people are multiplying in our society. Whatever happened to eugenics?

    • superlloyd

      Diversity equals dysgenics.

    • MartelsGhost

      Eugenics is a Liberal tenet. In regards to how useful eugenics are in helping to cull the populations of the “wrong people” I always find myself conflicted. Something along the lines of I’m okay with washing away the dirt but leave the snow alone? I consider myself strongly Constitutionally and Fiscally Conservative mildly Socially Libertarian but in regards to abortion and eugenics I am torn. I find it a good thing to encourage among my enemies and a bad thing to allow near my people.

      • Sick of it

        Eugenics can be boiled down to standards and an aesthetic sense. White people had these two things before the 20th century.

        • MartelsGhost

          Yes but how does one go about saying,” I support Abortion for those things over there but not for me” ? I find it a challenging subject to broach with my more conservative/religious friends and colleagues who will not see the usefulness of removing millions of future problems.

          My wife of 18 years for example saw a picture online the other day of a garbage bag of aborted fetuses and almost started crying. I saw the pic and noticed the fetuses were all of one ethnic variety and almost started clapping. My wife understood why I was pleased as she feels much the same about the race issue but she still sees “babies”. Me? I see future Mike Browns and Trayvons………………………….

          • SentryattheGate

            And, those breeders could have used birth control!

          • Reynardine

            Women naturally want to nurture things. Don’t fault them for that, guide them to a better use of their instincts.

          • MartelsGhost

            I dig all that, thats how we wound up with our two wonderful sons. And truth be told she did see the pic during her *ahem more “emotional” time of the month. However, she has a much more churchy background than I and sees ALL babies as innocents. I see some babies as spawns of satan that if allowed to grow will turn into full fledged demons.

            I am reminded of that scene in Natural Born Killers where the old indian guy tells the story of the frozen snake.

            I’ll just write it off as I don’t have ovaries and bring up every young criminal story I happen upon. Like that 10 year old who recently beat that woman to death.

          • theoldsargesays

            You’ll appreciate this….
            Q:What do you call an abortion clinic on MLK Blvd (any city)?
            A: A crime prevention unit.

          • MartelsGhost

            Now that is damn funny.

            Semper Fi Brother.

          • Reynardine

            Q: What do you call a black woman who has an abortion?
            A: A crimefighter.

          • Sick of it

            I’m against abortion and was referring to people using good sense to choose whom they marry. Non-whites should not be in our countries in the first place.

    • theoldsargesays

      Do not forsake.
      That’s were more abortions than births among blacks in NYC last years. The problems they cause appear to be self-correcting, it’s just going to take awhile.

      • John R

        Thanks. Every black bastard aborted is one fewer Trayvon Martin or Michael Brown, or Carr brother (of Wichita Kansas Massacre fame), or Mummia Abdul Jamil, etc. And those are just the ones I can think of off the top of my head.

  • Sick of it

    “his asthma was severe enough that he was forced to quit his job as horticulturist for the city”

    But not severe enough to prevent him from fighting with the police like a lunatic.

    • Irishgirl

      And despite not having a job, he clearly wasn’t going hungry.

      • My thinking about his 350-pound weight and attendant heart disease and diabetes was that we could usefully cut back SNAP benefits quite a ways.

        • Rusty Shackelford

          His family’s Thanksgiving food bill was certainly lower this year.

      • Sick of it

        People on welfare are often given more than people with a good paying job once you add up all the benefits. Both here and in Europe.

    • edwin karninsky

      That is the tragedy of racism. When I was afflicted with asthma, my wealthy white privileged parents hired a professional police puncher to fight the cops for me.

      An even wealthier white family living in our privileged enclave (that we stole from the Indians) hired two licensed fighters to resist arrest and fight the cops on behalf of their sons, who were vacationing in the Alps.

      Poverty stricken blacks can’t afford a professional barker to holler dindu nuffins on their behalf, and are often forced to recite their own lies and excuses. They cannot afford to retain a misdemeanor manager, and their only recourse is to do their own public urination, loitering and aggravated harassment.

      Many disadvantaged black families are forced to choose between fighting the police or feeding their families. It’s K’wanza season, so let’s be more understanding. Thanks.

  • Dave West

    Eric Garner = the “I din do nuffins” poster boy of December 2014, I wonder which black thug will be the January edition? Big boy Mike Brown already took over the months August through November.

    The “I din do nuffins” line has been the cherished defense of black thugs in America since 1619, almost a 400 year run! When I was in high school, during lunch in the lawn behind the school, a group of blacks would inevitably get into a fight on at least 2 days of the week. Walking back to class I would always see those same blacks would be lined up against the lockers being questioned by the 2 school resource officers. Every time I would always catch bits and parts of the same general quote; “we ain’t been fightin'” “I not tellin’ you s***” These are the school-to-prison pipeline “victims” the libtards keep griping about.

    • MartelsGhost

      Lennon Lacy. This “future rhodes scholar” hung himself and the leftwinglibtardshitforbrainsasshats are trying to reinvent the suicide as a lynching.

      That or Tamir Rice. 12 year old “future astronaut” who spent a morning at the park threatening people with a pellet gun that looked very much like a actual firearm and then tried to draw on Police when they arrived on the scene.

      • Douglas Quaid

        Yeah I saw that one, he hung himself from the swing-set in his own backyard. The stupid mother refuses to come to terms with reality, somehow this story is yet again about race.

        No wait, I got it, there was an evil white guy who woke up that morning and said to himself, “Self, you have yet to see what it feels like to kill a black, lets remedy that this day.” he then carefully picked out an unsuspecting college bound rapping all star MVP NBA quarterback, pinned him down without anyone hearing his cries for help and killed him with his bare evil white hands. He then made it look like a suicide, and of course he will get away with it, he’s white.

        • Dave West

          It was in his own backyard? Given the outcry about this being a “lynching” I assumed it was at least in a public park.

      • paul kersey

        it is funny to me , many whites have been calling 911 on a black and the cops show up and kill the black!! it is like the white version of the knockout game with a high tech and remote twist to it. amazing. why didn’t i think of that?

        • MartelsGhost

          There are only two Paul Kerseys I know of, one is brave warrior taking out ghetto thugs for having destroyed his family and friends. The other writes SBPDL.

          You are neither.

          Police Officers do not show up anywhere with the intention of killing anyone. They show up and if their simple instructions are not followed then they respond with necessary force to bring about a peaceful resolution that results in them finishing their shift and being able to go home safe at the end of the night.

          Perhaps you should try walking a mile behind the Shield. Try getting out of a cruiser a 03:45 am to approach a darkly tinted vehicle blaring loud music after you saw them driving erratically? Or try responding to a break-in in progress call. Or how about a domestic call, those are always so fun. No back-up available. Just a radio, a weapon and a vest……………………………..

          You are not paul kersey. You seem like your trying to bait people into making easily screen captured racist statements in order to label certain websites as violently anti-black in order to shame them.

          If I am wrong about you I will gladly apologize, but I’m not wrong about you.

          • Well and good, but do we know of a race of people who are frequently quite incapable of following simple police instructions and thereby escalate police encounters far beyond what normal folks manage? Garner was facing a petty misdemeanor arrest. Rice would have likely been driven home to his mother with a warning about his “lookalike” gun, or she would have been telephoned to come pick him up at the police station, depending on local department policy. In neither case would these Afritards have died as a result.

          • MartelsGhost

            Completely agree. But I have seen stupid come in every shade of the rainbow. There is no argument that the percentage of stupid is definitely higher in some shades.

            Don’t get me wrong on this, I wouldn’t shake hands with Alan West, but I don’t like the feeling of being baited into a racial diatribe by an internet troll.

          • Who Me?

            I thought “Paul Kersey” was being sarcastic.

          • MartelsGhost

            I detected no sarcasm. I did notice his disparaging use of the term cops. Which has been turned into a derogatory term as of late by those on the left.

            I may be wrong and if I am I will, as I said, apologize. But my BS radar is going crazy for some reason……………………………………

            maybe it has to do with his disqus account and the collected attitude of his posts.

    • theoldsargesays

      They sound like the kind of people who kept voting Marion Barry back into office after hia crack cocaine conviction.

  • RacialRay

    Dammit! Just one more arrest and he would have been liable under New York’s 32-strikes-and-you’re-out law.

    So close!

  • Reynardine

    I was actually one of the few on Amren even to justify Pantaleo’s actions early on. It was a stranglehold, not a chokehold.

    The video smelled like a leftist chewtoy, and only a few seconds of the confrontation were shown (the most incriminating parts). The fact that the entire exchange before Garner’s death was missing from the video gave me instant suspicion. This is the Rodney King video all over again, where the first several seconds where King charged the officers was cut for effect.

  • E7 sharp 9

    The truth matters not one iota to the driving force behind all the anti White propaganda we are seeing about police brutality. And the driving force IS NOT African Americans. As long as White Americans keep to their jobs, keep to their homes, keep paying taxes, and stay out of street demonstrations, they will continue to suffer the decline of influence in their country.

    • See The Future

      We need a counter demonstration with real numbers to put the media and blacks in their place.

  • dd121

    The guy had a mile long rap sheet. Guess I’m missing the tragedy.

    • The tragedy is that the idiot already has six kids. Not very amusing.

      • See The Future

        The cure for this problem is sterilization

        • Reynardine

          “Free weed with every sterilization!”

      • dd121

        I suspect the taxpayer was paying more for their care than he did.

  • MBlanc46

    I’m glad to finally get some details about this. That he was physically resisting arrest was enough for me to pin the responsibility on him, but I’ll no longer have to wonder whether in this case there might have been excessive force.

  • IKUredux

    I don’t care. I don’t care about Michael Brown. I don’t care about Eric Garner. I don’t and didn’t care about Trayvon Martin. I only care about the survival of the American nation. And, make no mistake about it: if you are an American, you are White. Since the founding of this country, it was assumed you were White. The Founding Fathers cared not a whit for black slaves. Nor, did they concern themselves about the Indians.
    We Whites fought for this country, tooth and nail. Blacks did NOT build this country(unless one considers cotton picking the equivalent of well, EVERYTHING).

    I am in fact, beginning to regard negroes as tiresome, and not worth it.Seriously, the bottom line is this:White people do NOT need the other races to exist. In fact, life would only improve if ALL of them were wiped from the Earth. Tell you what, I am more than willing to live in a world populated by nothing than White people. And, guess what? I am also willing to sacrifice all the “contributions” that all the other races have accomplished to achieve that goal.

    I now challenge the rest of the world to live without Whites. Mind you, we also take all our achievements with us.

    • See The Future

      We have quite enough white trash without adding black trash to the pile.

      • IKUredux

        What?

        • me

          Don’t worry….there’s always a self-loathing White lurking somewhere.

      • me

        Ahem…

  • model1911

    ‘This is a tragedy, regardless of the circumstances. We rightly mourn with his wife and children. They will never see their husband and father again, and that should break everyone’s heart.”

    Nope.

  • Dalliance

    Patent pending…

  • PouponMarx

    Should we not expect the same from this man’s welfare funded nigglets?

  • Bobbala

    Why are we paying people to combat the sale of “loosies”? This whole situation is insane.

    • edwin karninsky

      Because nyc taxed cigarettes to the point that it’s actually cheaper to buy cocaine. A single pack of cigarettes now costs $14-to-$15 in New York City.

      • Bobbala

        If this is freedom, let me in behind the iron curtain.

        • Krister Andersson

          You have obviously not been behind the iron courtain, I was arrested in 89 in DDR for a noncrime and I can tell you it was not entertaining, What is loosies?

          • Bobbala

            He was illegally selling individual cigarettes.
            I guess there are no more free zones to escape to.

    • Vyncennt

      Non-taxed cigarettes being sold by an unlicensed vendor located on the property of other people’s businesses. That is why. If you do not like the law then work to change the law, not to ignore it.

      Ignoring laws is something our president does.

      • Bobbala

        It’s not often you find defenders of the police state on this site. Is there nothing that does not require the permission of the government. When will it be appeased?

        • Vyncennt

          I do not defend the police state. I defend the rule of law only. We do not get to pick and choose which laws we follow.

          • Bobbala

            The Bill of Rights was to defend the individual against the mob, not the other way around. Of course it failed. The mob not only tolerates but demands the police state. It would seem that your just part of the mob comforting yourself in conformity. Enjoy it.

          • Vyncennt

            If you don’t enjoy a country governed by the rule of law, feel free to deport yourself to one of the countries that boast success without it. Let me know when you find one.

          • Bobbala

            This was the escape. The tyranny just followed. “Rule of Law” lol. You obviously haven’t been paying attention for a few decades if you believe that lie.
            Individual liberty has long been replaced with group rights. If you aren’t in the right group, you don’t have any rights. Just lay low and hope one of the preferred groups doesn’t see anything they want.

          • Vyncennt

            …and which group, pray tell, benefits by the restrictions on selling un-taxed cigarettes?

          • Bobbala

            Fascists.

          • Vyncennt

            Well you’re more than welcome to let black men stand on your property hocking “loosies” as you see fit.

          • Bobbala

            Your confusing individual liberty with fascism again.

  • Fee-fi-fo-fum

    Those cops know all about choke holds. They had experience with holds and taking people down. That cop knew what he was doing. I was taken down by the NYPD in a choke hold. I said I could not breath and they let up on me right away. Why did they let up on Garner? They had to have know they could killed him. This was not the first time they had used this type of take down. The cops had experience they knew what they were doing.

  • This article was very helpful. While I had no problem seeing Michael Brown as guilty, the Garner death troubled me. Police do a very difficult job, especially in impoverished neighborhoods and now they are getting a lot of grief for what they do. I remember back in the days after 9/11 how much respect communities had for law enforcement. It is the same law enforcement that is being derided today.

    Q.

  • adplatt126

    The Eric Garner case involves a white cop and a black perp, but it is not the same case as the Ferguson case. Whereas all the evidence I’ve seen suggests Wilson was in the right or at least justified in doing what he did, all the evidence in this case runs quite contrarily. I’ve seen the video many times. Pantaleo choked this man to death completely unnecessarily. I saw the tape. Not justified. Yes, the man did not want to be arrested. Who would want to be? Yes, he was resistant, but he wasn’t violent or aggressive. This situation could have been dealt with so much more wisely. He should have been charged with involuntary manslaughter. He used a banned chokehold and held it in wayyy too long on a man who made it clear he could hardly breathe. There were many other ways to bring this guy down if necessary: trip, taser, back-up. He choked a man to death because he was selling cigarettes without a license (something that shouldn’t be illegal anyway). I don’t feel the need to defend that. The video evidence and the circumstance itself demonstrate to me the officer was in the wrong and used excessive force, leading directly to a man’s death. I have too much humanity to think that’s fine here. It isn’t. Pantaleo was wrong. Wrong, wrong wrong. It’s really not that difficult to see.

  • Jim

    What if a police officer approaches you and says you can’t stand here because nobody is allowed in this area, and you face off as if to fight and say “get away from me?” Your only crime is standing there, right? So should the cop just back off and walk away?

    The question is should we authorize police officers to enforce the law and use all reasonable force to do so. Should they be civil in requiring citizens to do or not do something? Of course, if possible. Should they use the least amount of force to compel compliance? Once again, yes.

    So when the NYPD approached Eric Garner and advised him he is in violation of a misdemeanor law, he had a duty to submit to authority. Could it have been done better? Yes, I think more cops on the scene before trying to take action of a huge guy like that is the first thing. And somebody so big and fat should have been cuffed and then sat up if possible because laying him on his stomach could lead to breathing problems.