Despite Job Growth, Native Employment Still Below 2007

Center for Immigration Studies, December 19, 2014

President Obama recently announced plans to give legal status and work permits to millions of illegal immigrants. The U.S. continues to admit over one million permanent legal immigrants a year, and many members of Congress and the president continue to support efforts to increase immigration further.

Yet data publicly available on the Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS) website shows that as of last month, there are still 1.5 million fewer native-born Americans working than in November 2007, and the number of natives not in the labor force (neither working nor looking for work) continues to increase. In contrast, two million more immigrants (legal and illegal) are working.

“It is truly remarkable that since the 2007 recession, what net employment gains there have been went entirely to immigrants, while the number of native-born Americans working remains well below 2007 levels,” said Steven Camarota, Center for Immigration Studies Director of Research and author of a CIS report presenting the BLS data. “This raises the question of whether it makes sense to continue to admit so many legal immigrants as well as to allow most illegal immigrants to stay.”

The CIS report is here.

All the data for the report can be retrieved by anyone with an internet connection, from Table A-7 at the Bureau of Labor Statistics web site: http://www.bls.gov/webapps/legacy/cpsatab7.htm

Additional findings:

• The BLS reports that 23.1 million adult (16-plus) immigrants (legal and illegal) were working in November 2007 and 25.1 million were working in November of this year–a two million increase. For natives, 124.01 million were working in November 2007 compared to 122.56 million in November 2014–a 1.46 million decrease.

• Thus BLS data indicates that what employment growth there has been since 2007 has all gone to immigrants, even though natives accounted for 69 percent of the growth in the +16 population.

• The number of immigrants working returned to pre-recession levels by the middle of 2012, and has continued to climb. But the number of natives working remains almost 1.5 million below the November 2007 level.

• However, even as job growth has increased in the last two years (November 2012 to November 2014), 45 percent of employment growth has still gone to immigrants, though they comprise only 17 percent of the labor force.

• The number of natives officially unemployed (looking for work in the prior four weeks) has declined in recent years. But the number of natives not in the labor force (neither working nor looking for work) continues to grow.

• The number of adult natives 16-plus not in the labor force actually increased by 693,000 over the last year, November 2013 to November of 2014.

• Compared to November 2007, the number of adult natives not in the labor force is 11.1 million larger in November of this year.

• In total, there were 79.1 million adult natives and 13.5 million adult immigrants not in the labor force in November 2014. There were an additional 8.6 million immigrant and native adults officially unemployed.

• The percentage of adult natives in the labor force (the participation rate) did not improve at all in the last year.

• All of the information in BLS Table A-7 indicates there is no labor shortage in the United States, even as many members of Congress and the president continue to support efforts to increase the level of immigration, such as Senate bill S.744 that passed in the Senate last year. This bill would have roughly doubled the number of immigrants allowed into the country from one million annually to two million.

• It will take many years of sustained job growth just to absorb the enormous number of people, primarily native-born, who are currently not working and return the country to the labor force participation rate of 2007. If we continue to allow in new immigration at the current pace or choose to increase the immigration level, it will be even more difficult for the native-born to make back the ground lost in the labor market.

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  • Henry Higgins

    The Hispanics think they literally own the entire food industry jobs, as far as I can see. They will chase out any white on principle, especially women.

    • TomIron361

      As far As I can see, Hispanics are only good workers up to a point. But don’t look to a Hispanic beyond what you see them doing now. As far as our own young people go, there’s a very big problem with them. They seem to not really want to do any work. They are not trained to be workers. In the end, there’ll be all sorts of robots doing work now that our own young people won’t do and Hispanics can’t do. As far as blacks go, they’re not even in the conversation. The next generation of Asians brought up here will be as lazy as our own young people.

    • Reynardine

      Hispanics are good workers when under the watchful eye of whites.

      I have had things stolen off my desk at work by the hispanic underclass, but when I’m there at my desk they behave in a smarmy manner, trying to show me how much they pay attention to cleaning by empying my trash can in an ostentatious manner, trying to clean my desk while I’m still working at it…

      Everything about Hispanics is pure smarm.

  • superlloyd

    The immigrants aren’t here to fill labour gaps but rather counted as shock troops in Obama’s racist, genocidal war on white America.

    • JohnEngelman

      Republican politicians and their corporate sponsors are waging war on American employees.

      • Jimmy Joseph

        Both sides are screwing over Whites. Both are for outsourcing, illegal immigration, etc. Neither side fights against Affirmative Action.

        Republicans are slightly better. They seem to tax Whitey a little less.

        • JohnEngelman

          Republicans tax the rich a lot less. Their tax cuts for the rich never did me any good.

          • Jimmy Joseph

            The upper middle class people get some minor tax breaks, especially if income is over 200K.

            Also, estate tax exemptions have been increased.

          • JohnEngelman

            A small percentage of the U.S. population make more than 200K. You have confirmed what I wrote.

          • Jimmy Joseph

            Yeah so what?

            That is important for people who make good money. They are usually earning the money through hard work and merit.

          • JohnEngelman

            Since at least the beginning of this century the rich have gotten richer while the standard of living for most Americans has declined. An economy like that does not nurture a healthy economy. A genuine conservative should find that disturbing.

          • Jimmy Joseph

            Stop the collectivist bull.

            This is true for billionaires who have made wealth through outsourcing or financial manipulation.

            I am talking about tax breaks for hard working upper middle class professionals. People like doctors, some lawyers, etc.

            Why shouldn’t those people catch a break?

          • JohnEngelman

            Because most Americans do not benefit from that break.

          • Jimmy Joseph

            Engelman, you are sounding like a Communist.

            Stop it.

          • JohnEngelman

            A mark of intelligence is the ability to make distinctions. I am not a Communist. I am a social democrat. I am in favor of a high minimum wage, strong labor unions, and a well financed public sector of the economy paid for by high taxes on the well to do.

            That is what exists in Scandinavia. The Scandinavian countries are not Communist. They have less public debt as a percentage of gross domestic product than the United States. Unlike the United States, they retain a AAA rating on Standard & Poor’s.

          • Jimmy Joseph

            Yeah Sweden is dying off and turning Islamic. Yeah real model to follow.

            Which “Scandinavian” country has a strong military? They only function due to the USA protecting Europe through military. if they had to fund their own military and welfare system, they’d be screwed.

            Also, these are small countries with very small populations. Apples and Oranges my friend.

          • RationaliseThis

            The people you want to encourage with tax breaks are those conducting business, employing people, sometimes putting their house on the line to meet payroll.

            On disadvantage of a high tax rate is that much of it ends up being redistributed away from Whites to blacks, Hispanics and Muslim baby making machines.

            This is of course the American quandary. Social democracies with well run welfare states and government involvement ran very well in Swedden, Germany and I think they do well in Israel though that’s got a few oddballs. It’s well known that in multicultural societies folks are less willing to invest in the community.

  • Tim_in_Indiana

    The three big job killers in America are:

    1. Immigration

    2. Automation

    3. Outsourcing

    With three such huge strikes against them, it’s no wonder so many native-born, white Americans are having trouble finding decent jobs these days. In fact, the era in which most people can consider a decent job as their birthright may be drawing to a close forever.

    • Xerxes22

      Also, discrimination in hiring. That is a huge strike against Whites, especially young Whites who don’t have years of experience in a particular area.

      • Tim_in_Indiana

        Yeah, add Affirmative Action to the list. But in all fairness, the other three job killers hit blacks too, at least those who actually want to work.

        • IstvanIN

          But the blacks that want a job and are minimally competent can get government jobs.

        • Georgia Boy

          I think they know that, remember the blacks we saw showing up in the photos of the anti-amnesty rallies? In fact, from what I’ve read that’s one of Jesse Jackson’s peeves with silicon valley, that natives need to get first shot at STEM jobs before they hire them out to Indians etc. But the pols know there’s more votes to be bought by buying blacks off with some more gubbermint jobs and keeping the immigration flow on.

        • Jimmy Joseph

          Most blacks come from single family households and generations of welfare usage.

          They either want easy govt jobs or no job. Lets be honest man.

          Also, due to low IQs (on avg), they really aren’t suited for most cognitive fields.

  • MekongDelta69

    As long as illegal aliens are taking the jobs teenagers used to do when I was a kid, NoBama is fine with that.

  • DD-762

    You would think that all of the people in the Inner Cities who need jobs, there would be a concerted effort to prioritize job placement for them. One “justification” for the Fergusen rioting was because the rioters were upset because there are no job opportunities. Why do you suppose that is?

    • See The Future

      The government has put in place a climate that has encouraged foreigners to sell their products in the USA and to offshore jobs to foreign countries. It used to be “made in USA”. Just about everything in you house was made in the USA, clothing, furniture, electronics, the list is endless. Now most things are made in China, Mexico, India or other third world country. When made in USA was the standard there were jobs.

      We are a country of paper pushers, financial advisers, sales persons, service industry people………..things that are of no productive value. We are losing our ability to produce the raw materials needed for industry. The middle class is getting squeezed out and becoming poorer each year.

      The wealth in concentrated more and more in fewer hands. The outcome of this economic and social policy will be a catastrophic breakdown of a civil society.

      History will repeat.

      • TomIron361

        Very well said sir. As an older man and a retired structural Ironworker, I saw this when it all started. I didn’t know then what to make of it. If you listened to the younger men in the shanty before work you would have thought you were sitting among a whole bunch of genius’. But once the work started, they didn’t do well at all. What I was seeing was the beginning of all these people who don’t want to work at anything productive. But at this point in time, many/most of our young people don’t want to work at all. They tell you this in many ways without voicing it (actually, they don’t want to talk at all, they’d just rather text). Mainly, they use body language to let you know you’re bothering them by asking them to do their job.

        • Jimmy Joseph

          Yeah but which generation was in power that screwed up the whole society?

          People under 40 had no say in the destruction of the Western world. It was the “wise older generation” that was all about “free love”, homosexual rights, open borders, multiculturalism, etc.

          I don’t blame them for not wanting to work under this system. The younger White males that are unconnected have a VERY hard time moving up due to affirmative action for minorities and women. They will be the grunts working for peanuts while the top positions will go to non Whites and women.

          Their response is rational considering the screwed up society your generation left.

          • TomIron361

            sir, what you say holds no water. It’s just more excuses. It doesn’t matter how things got to be the way they are. It nly matters what people do about it. There’s an old southern saying goes, Root, Hog or Die. There’s no room anymore for crying. Just do what has to be done.

          • Jimmy Joseph

            Yes but it was the older generations fault for the collapse of things. Remember, the younger generation has no power yet.

            So my comments are very accurate. How can you blame people in their 20s for the current state of the society when they have no power?

            You guys left us with a destroyed society. Be honest.

          • TomIron361

            doesn’t matter now – Root, Hog or Die.

          • Jimmy Joseph

            Yet you were the one condemning the younger generations. Now it “doesn’t matter”.

          • TomIron361

            correct, how things got to be the way they are doesn’t matter. e’ve all got to play the cards we’re dealt. Whining doesn’t help a thing. Play the cards.

          • Jimmy Joseph

            No “whining” at all. Just speaking about how we got here so we don’t blanket “condemn the younger generation”.

      • MBlanc46

        You can get richer by plugging yourself into the global stream of money than by making things.

      • GeneticsareDestiny

        Yes, and that’s not to mention the fact that many of the few things that are still made in America are made by immigrants (legal or illegal) and refugees.

        They do almost all of the work at meat packing/processing plants, for instance. And on those rare occasions when you find clothing or other manufactured goods at the store that were made here, chances are it wasn’t an American citizen who made it.

        Insourcing is becoming almost as big a problem as outsourcing now, and the push for more of it by corporations is growing. The industries that can’t outsource have always been envious of those that could, and now they’ve found their own magical solution: if you can’t take the job to the third worlders, bring the third worlders to you.

  • dd121

    My problem is believing any statistics that come out of this regime or any of the conclusions that would normally follow.

  • I’m not even interested in finding a regular job. The microelectronics industry can find some more H-1b Indians to play “dress up”; I’ll be OK.

    • Tom in MI

      That’s nice, but what about everyone else?

  • Julius Caesar

    Their faces…blank stares…uhhhhduhhhhhhhh……

  • Americaandthewestshouldbewhite

    And Obama still wants illegals in the country to enrich our diversity and make this country a turd world cesspool.

  • ricpic

    The über-wealthy donor class, which finances both parties, wants an ever expanding pool of cheap labor. And they’re getting it, the country be damned.

  • Americaandthewestshouldbewhite

    Sigh!!, this is what America has become. White women siding with negroes and Asians who think that they are black.

    • Jimmy Joseph

      Most Asians don’t like blacks. Asian women rarely date black men (unlike White women). You have to give them credit on that.

      White women are largely siding with minorities because they are “victims” of White men.

  • Yves Vannes

    The white Stanford and Berkeley grads with STEM degrees work in the swanky new restaurants while at least 1/3 of Silicon Valley is populated by Indian junior college grads. The hiring practices in SI is so incredibly corrupted that they`ve probably broken every racketeering law a hundred times over.

    If you`re a bright kid interested in STEM avoid computer science and EE related areas like the plague.

    • Latino Nationalist

      My friend’s cousin from Mexico who happens to be computer engineer was able to land a job in the states. Of course the Indians who sponsored him take 30% of his salary.

    • Jimmy Joseph

      Kinda crazy aint it?

      Where the hell are the groups to support White males? Why aren’t we fighting back?

      • RationaliseThis

        We don’t own the newspapers, TV stations, movie studios, or Facebook.

    • MikeofAges

      Yves: I know the system. Would be nice, wouldn’t it, if I could get hired as part of a work group which included my brother, the senior programmer. He could do my work for me while I got paid $6K a month. Maybe I would learn the job, maybe I wouldn’t. I think I would, but whether I did or not, I’d be good for a couple of years anyway. This is what the Indians and Chinese do that we cannot do. You are absolutely right. Americans have no idea how corrupt the system has become. Not to mention, Americans have no concept of how to act against these abuses. They just look at you slack jawed when you explain how this stuff work. Largely, they want nothing for themselves, and are disturbed only by the fact there is someone else not getting nothing too. Their minds are poisoned by Calvinism, Social Darwinism and Cultural Freudianism. All of these systems teach them that they are inadequate, and all they want is for others to be treated inadequate just like them.

      • AndrewInterrupted

        Only to get worse with Obmnesty. STEM applies to H1-B.
        Obamnesty is making H-2B moot.

        https[colon]//www[dot]youtube[dot]com/watch?v=2uVL_w9sWos

  • KenelmDigby

    Mass immigration into the USA is just as much a labor issue as it is a race issue.
    In fact, its impact most likely impinges much worse on black Americans than White Americans.
    In this light, monolithic black support for the avowedly immigrationist Democrat Party is self destructive.

    • MikeofAges

      Here’s the secret of the Democratic Party. There are conservative rank-and-file Democrats still. They are pathological troublemakers who enjoy seeing people subject to dog-eat-dog competition and who enjoy social chaos. To keep them in the fold, the Democratic Party gives them what they want. Only in the Midcentury era, the era of liberal nationalism, was the Democratic a constructive entity

  • So unless your an illegal or other affirmative action personnel… good luck on getting a job.

    Northwestfront(dot)org

  • Future mudshark in the making.

  • Paleoconn

    Ed Rubinstein of vdare regularly publishes very thorough research on job trends, American versus foreigner.

  • MBlanc46

    One qualification: Their 85 average IQ is not their fault. It’s down to evolution.

  • Reynardine

    “My race makes me invincible.”

    If only that were true. It’s more like:

    “My race makes me invisible.”

  • AndrewInterrupted

    CIS has also reported in New Hampshire that the grievance industry occupied HR departments, supported by the minority occupation government, have laid waste to the founding U.S. population.

    Some of the biggest anti-White offenders are the federal contractors like L3 Warrior Systems and BAE Systems. BAE is the largest employer in NH and has been aggressively anti-White male.

    The Marxist pushing that white purge operation at BAE Systems was a woman named Linda Hudson, who makes Sheryl Sandberg look like an American.

    http[colon]//cnsnews[dot]com/node/851438

    .
    Sheryl Sandberg, the czarina of cultural Marxism and her henchmen, Linda Hudson (commonly referred to by her less-than-loving employees as: “Mrs. Doubtfire”).
    .

    • Jimmy Joseph

      Sandberg is totally untalented and flew on the coattails of Zuckerberg and other men.

      Don’t know who this other ugly looking woman is.

      • AndrewInterrupted

        Linda Hudson was the diversity demon hired by BAE after Obama was elected to engage in a 6 year anti-White male purge of the company; hired to appease the ‘minority occupation government’. The gubmint being BAE’s only customer.

        After Hudson presided over the destruction 10,000 hetero, white male lives (BAE has 40,000 domestic employees), she waddled off to some boardroom to blubber the rest of her useless life away.

        • Jimmy Joseph

          Freaking disgusting how many of these women hate men.

          I experienced this on interviews with White women when I interviewed to grad school.

          They literally were trying to figure out excuses to prevent my admission, regardless of far higher than average exam scores.

          I don’t blame those White males who get on disability these days.

          • RationaliseThis

            I’d say she’s not really “White”. A lot of What passes for feminism is race hatred of Whites pretending to be pro-women. You just need to look at what feminists look like in the 1960s onward. A lot of White females get duped or caught up in the hysteria and false facts the feminists put out. Exaggerate the rape rate, blame mainly White males but exculpate blacks, exaggerate domestic violence, tell her she is going to be discriminated against (females without children earn more than males) and you’ve brainwashed a large portion of the White race before they are 21. Of course young girls are no more to blame than young boys who have been targeted but they are targeted more successfully.

          • Jimmy Joseph

            I agree.

          • AndrewInterrupted

            Linda Hudson, and those of her ilk, are weak appeasers. They are members of the grievance industry. The grievance industry dominate Human Resource departments and the agencies ultimately applauding reverse discrimination like the EEOC, DOL, DOJ, OFCCP.

            The OFCCP, who assisted Hudson in her White/male purges at BAE, is a gang of activist thugs run by yet another Chicago gangster, Pat Shui.
            .

          • AndrewInterrupted

            Linda Hudson, and those of her ilk, are weak appeasers. They are members of the grievance industry. The grievance industry dominate Human Resource departments and the federal agencies ultimately applauding and assisting reverse discrimination; agencies like the EEOC, DOL, DOJ, OFCCP. The EEOC employee base, for example, is nearly 50% Black.

            This old site covers a lot of those atrocities. It looks like the web site owner is bringing it out of moth balls finally.

            http[colon}//www[dot]adversity[dot]net/

            The OFCCP, who assisted Hudson in her White/male purges at BAE, is a gang of activist thugs run by yet another Chicago gangster, Pat Shui.

          • AndrewInterrupted

            But, those man-haters are far more likely to have been brainwashed and recruited by Sheryl Sandberg. She is aggressively engaged in sedition and anti-West activities. Her TED-talks are pure anti-West propaganda, and her books are loaded with lies and lies-thru-omission.

          • Jimmy Joseph

            She is a piece of garbage

  • AndrewInterrupted

    Just writing: “I am a useful idiot” would have sufficed.

    “…Look, mummy! I’m an Activist!…”

  • Mangosteen, $1000 chair

    Move to northern Virginia, b*tch. I’m a white woman and was constantly harassed by cops because they know whitey pays the tickets and fines that feed the welfare beast for the illegals and foreign invaders. I’m no threat and am not trash or a criminal yet cops pulled a gun on me (I was sitting in my car having been pulled over, hands visible on the wheel yet it still happened). So save that horseshiat and don’t act like being white is some privilege when it comes to police interaction because it isn’t. Hopefully she will get vibrantly culturally enriched soon and the police do nothing because good riddance to bad rubbish!

  • Jimmy Joseph

    Whites need to form their own political party to address these issues. This is totally unacceptable that Whites are being totally removed from the labor market through illegals and affirmative action.

    White males who can’t get jobs will be “unattractive” to women and won’t be able to marry.

    No one seems to give a damn about White men. Scary times.

    • RationaliseThis

      White males being removed from the job market is exactly what they want, every policy they execute has been about that. Immigration policy, border control, industrial policy, agricultural policy.

      • Jimmy Joseph

        Check out the medical schools too. Look how many White males there are compared to 20 years ago.

  • Jimmy Joseph

    Typical White female these days.

    Must be the Jews fault! I blame the Rothschilds.

    • RationaliseThis

      She’s now a borderline idiot (anyone can get a degree these days so long as you show up) she should be categorised as too incompetent to vote. Jewish tribal behaviour played its part in pumping out the propaganda in college that filled her once empty but sweet air head with rubbish. This ones probably been effected by an intersectional feminist.

      The tragedy is that women between 16-36 are our most precious asset.

      Maybe she’ll breed with the joke of a man next to her. Looking at him makes me understand why he would vote for a welfare party.

      • Jimmy Joseph

        Look at the negroes these famous “singers” are dating. That will really shock you.

        Regardless of “Jewish” propaganda, these women are going along with it very hardcore. Why are they so enthusiastic to turn on the White males? Why are they so feminist?

        At some point, you have to blame the person not the “propaganda”.

        • RationaliseThis

          You have to deal with the person by whatever means possible. Fill her head with counter propaganda if possible or deride exclude or shun and her into irrelevance. It would be nice if she recanted and redeemed herself but if not let’s not worry if she to blame.

          Certainly yes, many girls her age would have had the ethical standards, the integrity and reasonableness to check the facts. As a friend said, stupidity and ignorance is a cosmic sin that the universe does not forgive.

          I suspect this girl read a lot of literature, fiction substituted for real life and that is where she got her world view from. Unfortunately what separates us from other higher animals is two things 1 our desire to teach and 2 our natural tendency to trust our teachers.

          Its this 2nd aspect that has been cooped.

          Chimpanzees if shown the incorrect way to solve a puzzle to obtain a sweet reward will quickly abandon the false approach whereas human children stubbornly, trustingly and almost stupidly persist trying the approach the adult showed them.

        • Anna Tree

          I hope you don’t mind if I reuse your last sentence.

  • Jimmy Joseph

    Lets see the wonderful “leadership” of this country:

  • Jimmy Joseph

    Boehner’s daughter’s wedding.

    Good job conservative republicans!

    • IstvanIN

      Boehner deserves this.

  • Jimmy Joseph

    John McCain’s son “wedding”

    • JohnEngelman

      She looks good to me.

      • Jimmy Joseph

        I bet she does to you.

        • IstvanIN

          She isn’t bad looking for a black female but she shouldn’t be married to McCain, all that evolution flushed down the drain.

  • RationaliseThis

    Automation and American competitivness is itself a victim of cheap labour immigration. Cheap labour retards investment and development in Automation. This leads to retarded managment unable to even work out how to manage automation, hire the right people, get in the right consultants. Eventually progress is so poor economic competitiveness falls behind. Automation is the friend of the White Man as we can service it. The Chinese will not be burdened by a low IQ population eternally in need of welfare and even micro managment on how to feed their children.