Black Officers Torn Between Duty and Race

Jesse J. Holland and Kristin J. Bender, AP, December 11, 2014

Jorge “Jinho” Ferreira feels the tension between being black and carrying a badge every day as a sheriff’s deputy in Alameda County, California.

“I feel like you have to prove yourself on every level,” said Ferreira, 39, who patrols about 30 miles east of San Francisco. “You have to prove yourself to the black community, you have to prove yourself to all of your co-workers, you have to prove yourself to society.”

With the nation roiled by two grand juries’ recent decisions not to indict white police officers in the deaths of unarmed black men, some black officers say that as they enforce the law, they also wonder whether the system they’re sworn to uphold is stacked against black men.

In interviews conducted by Associated Press reporters across the nation, retired and active black officers expressed concern about how black men are treated by the largely white police forces in the United States, an issue that has led to protests alleging police brutality. The officers say they want change just as much as anyone else, and advocate for it where they can because they, too, have something to lose.

“A lot of us have sons, and we want to make sure our colleagues are treating our young boys with dignity and respect,” said Oakland Police Lt. LeRonne Armstrong, a 16-year veteran.

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{snip} There were an estimated 55,267 African-Americans in local police departments and an additional 15,500 in sheriff’s departments in 2007, the latest information available from the Justice Department.

“We’re called things like Uncle Toms and traitors to our community, in spite of the fact that we sympathize or we agree with the anger that our community holds, because we feel that same anger,” said Noel Leader, a retired New York City police sergeant who in 1995 co-founded an advocacy group, 100 Blacks In Law Enforcement Who Care.

Black officers point out that they contend with many of the same racial issues as black civilians, such as stereotypes, racism on the job and even confrontations with the police. Black plainclothes or undercover police officers have been shot by their white counterparts, as in the 2009 death of NYPD Officer Omar J. Edwards, who was killed while he was chasing a man who had broken into his car.

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While acknowledging the rage felt by communities that feel persecuted by the police, some of the black officers were not quick to blame race for some of the deadly encounters.

“I believe that some of these incidents could have been prevented if you comply with the law,” Williams said. “If someone says put your hands up, put your hands up.”

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  • dd121

    If you’re luck you’ll never have to serve under a black officer. AA is at work in the military just as it is in civilian life. They tend to make horrible leaders.

    • This is very true. Unless you’ve had to work under a black sergeant or lieutenant, you’ll know nothing about what it’s like to experience what occurs when power goes to their heads.

      In fairness, I’ve worked with a small handful of black police supervisors who were generally competent men (though not what I would consider outstanding). They were honorable men, and I had no problem with them as persons or fellow officers.

      However, I have worked with several other black supervisors who were dull-minded and completely out of their league. Some were outspoken in their general dislike of the white man, though upper management pretended not to notice.

      Many of the white officers knew how incompetent they were too, but we weren’t supposed to say anything. We did a lot of pretending. Every so often we would make comments and smirk because we knew they were nothing more than affirmative action supervisory appointees.

    • Beowald

      Overall, it seems my experiences were more positive than yours. I’ve had a couple of black bosses over the years. The first was a perfect officer and gentleman. The second was apparently competent, but I didn’t have enough direct interaction to make much of a judgment. On the other hand, it’s also true that most blacks I’ve known in service have been less competent than whites. Even so, they were all pre-selected by the screening process. The best of their kind.

      Not fishing for personal details, but I’m wondering if it might be down to the branch of service? The real problem in my branch is the women…but that’s another story.

      Where I’ve really seen the AA effect is in federal civil service. Blacks are ridiculously over-represented and over-promoted. A few of us quietly whisper about how incompetent some of our black civilian counterparts are, but we never even whisper about their race. It’s too dangerous to one’s career.

      • dd121

        After many years of exposure in different occupations, I’m hypersensitive.

      • LHathaway

        There was a finding put out, possibly by the magazine Pat Buchanan writes for, that showed blacks were overrepresented at 16 out of 17 departments of federal government, in some cases by as much as 700% (this was at the EEO office, I believe). This report was not even taking into account demographics (The white median age is close to 40, the black median age around 28).

        • Mary

          I have no problem believing this. Those hiring have been given explicit directives not to hire or promote Whites if it can be avoided, and are subject to “unpleasantness” if they do not comply.

        • joanofamerica

          Definite, really got that. I live in the are, its true. Government used to work somewhat as any can, we lost it.

          • joanofamerica

            sorry, lost the a in area but drunk half a bottle of wine, if you didn’t know there was a problem, would you be on this site?

      • sophiepeaches

        Had one black boss. She rode me to death. She called me, “Snow White,’ cause my hair was very dark and my skin very light. Very much a [email protected]$. All the blacks in our unit would come back like an hour or more late from lunch and they all would laugh very loudly as they came down the hall to let all us whiteys know that ‘they be in charge.’ She would write me up for staying 15 min. Late to straighten up my office. (I worked in Foodstamps/Medicaid, so I had lots of little ones come in my office.

        • joanofamerica

          I can only imagine (and sooooo). Went to pick up my son one New Years Eve at his first job. The blacks were all in the store partying, my son doing all the work as I sat outside in the parking lot getting madder and madder I could see inside the store), knowing that every day was like this for him just to get a pay check and help him mom out.

          • joanofamerica

            It took him a few more years, but at least he learned and is not part of the “movement” among these young whites “on the march”. We ran into some going to DC today. I fear for them, they’re young and do not know yet. I hope they learn. Isn’t it our IQs that make it so hard for us to figure it out and band together, to keep seeking out different cultures (the cat thing)?

      • joanofamerica

        Yeah, got it.

      • joanofamerica

        You’re also missing the point, I’ve worked with may blacks. Some you would have been proud to know and would not be on this web site having known them. Its the Big Whole Picture you’re missing. We need to progress to survive and we cannot do it with affirmative action and sensitivity to the enemies of a civil society. It cannot be done.

    • joanofamerica

      True, been there, done that. Too many times to be considered “dumb luck”.

      • joanofamerica

        yes mam, yes sir. The only words to say when you (usualy screw uP). The only things we need to teach our young. White or black when confronted by the police.

  • Dirty little secret:

    Black cops are often very brutal and abusive of their power.

    Awhile back, I read a story in the NYP about a black NYPD sergeant telling a bunch of black men in Brooklyn that they better do what he says because he has “the long ****” and he can “do whatever the **** I want.”

    • Alexandra1973

      I read a similar article today on Yahoo.

    • The All Seeing Bry

      Very similar accounts to the ones in the slave days. Black slave owners were often the most brutal.

  • Dave4088

    In other words, forced racial integration has been an abysmal failure with no end in sight.

    • Beowald

      This is a very important point. If even black cops (who are by definition among the most successful of their race) “feel the same anger” as the larger black community, then maybe our two races just ought not to be forced to live and work together? A little space, here. Just sayin’…

  • [Guest]

    >>>…Some black officers say that as they enforce the law, they also wonder whether the system they’re sworn to uphold is stacked against black men…

    The rule of thumb is that blacks are blacks first and foremost. Everything else—including living up to their sworn duty to enforce the law—comes second with them.

    • dukem1

      I thnk there is some sort of genetic narcissism at work there.

    • APaige

      Proven by “we want to make sure our colleagues are treating our young boys with dignity and respect,” when it should be that we are teaching our young boys to treat police with respect.

      • MrGJG

        What is it with blacks and respect? They want respect just for breathing.

  • LHathaway

    Why not just interview black CEO’s and have Them explain how the system is unfair to black men, or white first graders. I’m sure they’d all explain to us reason why they system is unfair to black men.

    • Actually, they would gladly do so and NEVER recognize the hypocrisy and inconsistency of it all. Most of them are stuck on a particular ‘racist’ narrative and they can’t break free from it, despite the fact that their own lives prove otherwise.

  • Ringo Lennon

    You see! Race does matter.

  • Yves Vannes

    Old Joke:
    Heaven is where the policemen are British, the mechanics are German, the lovers are French, the cooks are Italian, and it’s all organized by the Swiss.
    Hell is where the Germans are the policemen, the mechanics are French, the lovers are Swiss, the cooks are British, and it’s all organized by the Italians.

    New Joke:
    Heaven is where the policeman, the mechanics, the lovers, the cooks and the organizers are 90% European and 10% East Asian.

    Hell is where Hamas runs the police, the Senegalese fix the 2-stroke engines (only engines available), the Liberians gang rape girls and boys, the chef from the Congo has you on tomorrow’s menu, and it’s all organized by the Bantu. France in 50 years.

    • shatwood

      And the muslims bomb all of them for being infidels.

    • sestamibi

      No, it was the cooks are French and the lovers Italian.

    • Funruffian

      I’m familiar with that joke as well, except that the lovers are Italian and the chefs are French.

    • RationaliseThis

      I rather like German customer service and the police are civil as well. They don’t like fake smiles or giving them as part of customer service (feels like falsity) but if you give respect by maintaining a polite formal distance things can become cordial. it shows you have intelligence and restraint. My German boss could be embarrassingly direct, even insulting by Anglo standards, but the week never ended that way and Monday was always a new start and he frequently gave public kudos as well.

      I worked in Germany, Italy, France for a while: I’d saw a few minor car crashes, usually in the snow, in Germany the two motorists typicall stepped out, shook hands, waited for police gave details and went away. It took,about 30 minutes. In Itally or France I saw them gesticulate or shout at each other and then, despite the recriminations, just drive off each putting up with the minor ding. It took about 5 minutes. The English are marvellously considerate, allowing you to merge in in an orderly fashion in little village roads despite not having right of way. I recall that in Chester England as well as Manchester. You can’t judge the German in that area. Their local traffic is just to well organised to be confronted by that. They are mad on the autobahnen though. British police are now hideous, arresting people for the most minor politically incorrect statement.

  • Liberal of Liberty

    Several things are wrong here….first whya re there only 55,267 african american police officers? Thats way too low. Second why should a african american cop have to prove himslef anymore than a white cop? Double standards everywhere u look. The AA community still has a lot to fight for that for sure.

    – “Dont just diversify your portfolio, diversify your life”

    • KyraNelson

      Wow. You’re right. White people NEVER have to “prove” themselves for anything. Why, just the other day I applied for a job at Target and they said “You white, you don’t have to fill out no online application, take no drug test or even come to work with any clothes on. You can slouch around the store with your pants around your knees, act like you’re doing everyone a favor by showing up, and after you make manager, be sure to give money to the black panhandlers outside the store. That way they’ll become a permanent fixture to harass white customers.
      Everybody who has self respect, goals, commitments and other markers of intelligence and maturity has to “prove” themselves for most of their lives. Except Black people. They’re exempt. Now that’s what I call Privelege.

      • KyraNelson

        I cast no aspersions on the Target Corporation or its employees except for making their employees work on Thanksgiving.

      • BillMillerTime

        A while back I punched a police officer in the face and tried to take his gun. At first he was mad, but when I whipped out my white privilege card from my invisible napsack, he was cool with it and let me go.

        • KyraNelson

          See what I mean?

  • superlloyd

    Let Black Officers patrol black areas and then we’ll see just how incompetent, corrupt and heavy handed they are. I’m sure white cops would be pleased not to have to deal with the feral, whining undertow and their handlers.

    • DonReynolds

      Better still……have the black cops patrol the hispanic neighborhoods and have the hispanic cops patrol the black neighborhoods.
      Yeah…..finish it……asian cops in white neighborhoods and white cops in asian neighborhoods.
      Police are not there to make friends. Their job is to enforce the law.

      • Sick of it

        I agree with you, but mix the Asians in with the rest and only have white cops in white areas.

        • bilderbuster

          Korean cops patrolling Black areas.

    • MathMan

      I think we saw that in New Orleans after Katrina!

  • DonReynolds

    IF ANY POLICE OFFICER IS TORN BETWEEN DUTY AND RACE, they need to turn in their badge, whether they are black or white.
    We do not need cops who are are not sure of their loyalty, who could have a problem keeping their oath, who might change their mind tomorrow and join the protesters…..
    ANY protesters.

    • A Freespeechzone

      Make NO mistake, if ‘push goes to shove’, blacks almost ALWAYS side with their race–over and above ‘right and wrong’.

    • Luca

      Really, did they swear an oath to uphold the law or break it?

    • The All Seeing Bry

      The officer said he sympathizes with the black community.

      Translation: When I catch black thugs doing illegal things I am more likely to let them go than a white man.

      His admission to being a crooked cop is stated in broad daylight. Yet, we’d be racist to further question him on it.

      Some blacks can’t be trusted with anything.

  • Reynardine

    The Prevailing Philosopical Zeitgeist: Race is a social construct, except when it isn’t.

  • RHG

    I guess blacks think black cops should allow them to commit all manner of crime and to look the other way

    • JohnEngelman

      As long as those crimes are against whites.

      • The All Seeing Bry

        Hence, “Stop black on black crime”

  • RationaliseThis

    It’s interesting that Bill Cosby, one of the few Blacks publically getting Blacks to look at themselves critically, has been thrown under the bus for his alleged criminality(rape) 25 years ago. Would he have been protected if he had of stayed on message like some many other charismatics like John and Teddy Kennedy, MLK. My impression is you have to be pretty bad to get thrown under the bus: obvious drugs, corruption, incompetence, sexual abuse on a large scale.

    • NoMosqueHere

      Bill Cosby drugged and raped at least 16 white women. He should be hung in the gallows.

      • Alexandra1973

        My guess–and this is only a guess–is that he is guilty of something. The powers that be hushed it up…until he honked them off.

        I might add that it’s the reason why I would want a president or congress critter that has fewer secrets than a goldfish–they couldn’t be blackmailed.

        • See The Future

          The media protects the guilty and vilifies or ignores the innocent.

          The fact that Cosby is exposed is testimony to the strength of 20 women victims that could not be swept under the rug.

      • See The Future

        Being exposed and disgraced in his old age is far more punishment than a quick and easy exit. Now he knows what his legacy will be written as.
        Quite unlike the traitor in the white house that takes pride in his successful campaign to sock it to the white man.

    • Deiter Botha

      I think you bring up a good question but can’t understand why you say alleged criminality. Is it because your sympathetic to Mr Cosby or have you been conditioned by our media culture to say “alleged” even though your under no obligation to presume innocents as a free thinking citizen?

  • MartelsGhost

    After the Balkanization of America is complete I’m predicting a style of black policing much like I remember from the federales down Mexico way, better start wrapping a $50 bill around your license if you need to drive through a black section of your town………..

    or do like I do and enjoy living in a smaller town, around other good moral Whites, do your local shopping as much as possible from small business owners you know and order any large items online. Move away from the large tax collecting EBT ridden cities and enjoy some popcorn as their lights and water go out.

    That and arm yourself. Arm yourself and your loved ones. Practice, practice, practice.

    When the day comes that the cockroaches have eaten all the food in the cities, be prepared to fight and stomp them out.

  • libertarian1234

    “With the nation roiled by two grand juries’ recent decisions not to indict white police officers in the deaths of unarmed black men, some black officers say that as they enforce the law, they also wonder whether the system they’re sworn to uphold is stacked against black men.”

    And he wonders this even though neither incident he points out had anything to do with race.

    And being in law enforcement he should be aware that the biggest problem for blacks is in committing crimes and violence, not the police who trying to keep them under control.

    He’s not bright enough to identify the problem.

    He’s an excellent example of why whites should NEVER appoint or hire a black to be part of their police. They can’t understand anything. They’re still locked into a stone-age mentality.

  • libertarian1234

    As Tom Chittum points out in his book, Civil War II, in every instance of ethnic/racial conflict the police and military break down along lines of race and ethnicity.
    And since blacks are the most tribal creatures on the planet it is more than apparent that black police will be pointing their guns at white heads five minutes after the first racial shot is fired.
    And maybe even before that in order to get a jump on the situation.

    • [Guest]

      >>>And since blacks are the most tribal creatures on the planet it is more than apparent that black police will be pointing their guns at white heads five minutes after the first racial shot is fired.

      That’s true, but somehow white people, including many who claim to be race realists, refuse to see it.

  • TheCogitator

    I sort of feel for blacks who may themselves not have the traits that causes their group to be so disrespected. It would seem that such people would be the most disgusted by the criminal blacks, but no, they support them. Blacks are nothing like us, and never will be. We are never going to be able to live peacefully together.

    • The All Seeing Bry

      The token black seems to work out just fine, beyond that everything is down hill.

  • IstvanIN

    Yup, a free-for-all.

  • Don’t believe the nonsense of this article. Many of those same black officers will admit at work in the presence of even white officers how dysfunctional and crime-ridden their own people are.

    Yes, they are often called ‘Uncle Tom’s’ and it does bother some of them. They want to support their own people, but they also know that these same thugs were justifiably gunned-down by the police. They know in their hearts and minds that men like Mike Brown and Trayvon Martin died solely because they were up to no good.

    As a retired police officer, I’ve worked with black officers and almost all of them (if they’ve done enough time on the job) are race-realists though they would never quite put it in quite those same terms. They know their own people all too well.

    • Americaandthewestshouldbewhite

      All negros know their people well. Even the white libs and the jews know them well. They just do not want to admit it.

  • The fact that there’s even an internal struggle among these black officers only serves to illustrate how racially conscious blacks are. They are fixated on race more than they know, and they deeply want to maintain solidarity with those of their own race – even if they happen to be cops who are sworn to arrest black criminals!

    Would to God that whites would feel the same about their own race. If whites felt the same level of racial solidarity as blacks, there would be a whole lot less black-on-white crimes. Whites would surely not be perceived as the weaklings and racially-divided people that they are currently seen as.

    • RationaliseThis

      The most kickass Whites in the world, Arfrikaaners, accepted a homicide rate increase from 800 per year under apartheid to 30,000 per year under ANC rule. Black on White murders involve unnecessary torture and torment and robberies involve unnecessary murder. Some accept it meekly as the payback they deserve and many in the west do as well.

      Do Blacks really think that if there were less Black policemen things would be better for them? They either have the ethics of a criminal gang or they are posturing, playing the angry victim. I think the latter.

    • [Guest]

      I believe that blacks are “racially conscious” in the sense that they’re keenly aware that as a race they’ve accomplished nothing whatsoever in any place, at any time. They’re consumed with envy and therefore with murderous hatred toward other races because other races have accomplished a thing or two.

  • Funruffian

    “A lot of us have sons, and we want to make sure our colleagues are treating our young boys with dignity and respect,” said Oakland Police Lt. LeRonne Armstrong, a 16-year veteran.

    Can you first extend that wish for dignity and respect to law abiding citizens such as shop owners, pedestrians, the elderly and anyone else who may be a target of Black crime and violence? If so, then we can talk.

    • Spikeygrrl

      “Dignity and respect” are not “rights.” Like anything else of value, they must be EARNED. If Black parents want to teach the kiddies JUST ONE THING which will ease their journey through this often bewildering world, a really strong case could be made for “Mind your elders and betters [persons in authority].”

  • Conrad

    First I ask, where is our racial loyalty.

  • Good Lord, will you stop with using white logic and rational thinking in all of this? Don’t you know that Logic and Deductive Reasoning are simply expressions of ‘white privilege’ used to enslave the minds of the far superior black race?

    You’d do much better if you simply stuck to emotional rhetoric, animated expressions, shouting, screeching, ‘chimp-outs’ and the like? That’s the level of discourse almost all blacks can relate to.

  • MBlanc46

    If they feel that their race is more important than their sworn duty, they should resign.

  • Sick of it

    We’re trying to take away their “human right” to rob, rape, and murder…

  • drattastic

    Apparently Black skin trumps crime. Yes let’s let them run wild and when it all hits the fan then what needs to take place, will.

  • Spikeygrrl

    Yes. They do.

  • dd121

    I think you nailed it. That’s what I’ve seen too. Never experienced it. I quietly refused to ever work for a black.

    • joanofamerica

      Not just me, my four children (white) as well. I’ve witnessed this and it breaks my heart that I cound’t do better for them (working for blacks). They have all as well as me, worked for the ‘Black masser’. I’m going to watch “And Then There Were None” ,> This is really depressing. By the way, for poor white trash, they had learning disabilities, they were tested at early ages and no one has an IQ of less than 125. We’re just losing it.

      • joanofamerica

        old movies make me feel better. I love utube but that won’t fix things will it? I’m old now and have seen the things that will pass and not for just whites but for the browns and black as well. The whites must fix it or there is nothing. We are the builders and the future of all of us.l

  • bilderbuster

    A Black in a pulled over for not using his turn signal and is then busted for driving a stolen car/car full of dope/stolen goods or an outstanding warrant blames it on racism.
    He’s convinced a White person wouldn’t have been pulled over because of the minor infraction in the first place.

    • Alexandra1973

      I got pulled over for no muffler once, about 20 years ago–it was my husband’s car.

      The state trooper spent more time trying to get me to calm down (I had the waterworks going…first time being pulled over and a bit scared). I told him the truth–that my husband had a new muffler in the trunk and that he was going to put it on, and I would show him if he wanted.

      He told me just go on home and get it put on.

      I didn’t get shot. Was it because I’m White? LOL

      • MrGJG

        No, it’s because you didn’t punch him in the face and try to steal his gun.

    • Irishgirl

      I saw a black man interviewed on the news saying he was sure he was profiled because a cop pulled him over. Near the end he mentioned, almost in passing, that he was given a ticket for driving without a license and drugs in the car. Sounds like it was a good traffic stop to me.

  • Triarius

    The majority of blacks are the victims of blacks. So…black cops that defend blacks from violent blacks are Uncle Toms how?

    Of course we can separate and they can do whatever they want. No need for Uncle Tom LEOs to enforce “Da Man’s” laws.

  • B.E.L.

    It’s really simple, we were not meant to co-exist in the same areas.

    • Malgus

      The Constitution and other laws of this land were written by whites, for whites, so we could exist peacefully in a white Western Civilization.

      Blacks – by their own actions – demonstrate they are unfit to exist in white Western Civilization – will be conflicted when upholding that law upon their fellow blacks.

      They say “We’re Americans too”, but I don’t see them acting like Americans. They turn on their own kind for simply upholding the law.

      Perhaps they would be better suited to a cleptocracy, run by Communist blacks? I hear South Africa is accepting these days…

  • See The Future

    It would be quite interesting to see what the result would be if officers both black and white would stay home for a month and let nature take its course.

  • rentslave

    If they’re that torn,they can tear off their uniforms.

    • Urbane Neanderthal

      Never happen.
      Where else can a black with an 80ish IQ make $50-60k or more depending on the department, sleep or goof off or shag some skank while on duty and get all the free fast food they can eat?

      Plus they get to order white people around with almost impunity…

      The black officers are not going anywhere.

  • Earl P. Holt III

    They haven’t thought it through enough to answer that question…

  • Fighting_Northern_Spirit

    And when that anarchy bites them in the posterior, then they blame whitey all over again.

  • Speedy Steve

    some black officers say that as they enforce the law, they also wonder
    whether the system they’re sworn to uphold is stacked against black men.

    Naturally. It’s in the DNA. I reckon the notion that fellow blacks behave badly hasn’t crossed his mind amidst all those traffic stops and trials. AA in action.

  • Speedy Steve

    They want White cops, but only when they want them. Like when somebody steals the t-shirts you were selling and the $4000 you had saved up for crack, VSOP, Cristal, Air Jordans, and auto insurance for the hooptie.

    • joanofamerica

      one more, then crashing. At a mostly AA group I attended tonight in a mostly AA neighborhood (hey,. I’m poor and couldn’t get out of it, I tried), The head speaker (AA) promoted the position of the cops. (we had to pass a protest to get in). I was uplifted for a few minutes. maybe theres hope.

  • Ohmy!

    If I were a black police officer, I would not be torn between my race and my work (I would realize that when I am working, I am simply fulfilling my job duties, period). Anyone behaving in a criminal way (e.g., white, black, asian, etc.) would face the consequences. A no brainer.

  • Frank Pucillo

    It sounds like law and order versus law of the jungle.Blacks are upset that the law of the jungle did not prevail over law and order.In the case of both Mike Brown and Treyvon martin it was that white technology that prevailed over black brute force.

  • Most black people will always be torn between duty and race. It doesn’t matter where you find them in society. They will be torn between the two until the time comes when they aren’t restricted by the White man’s concepts. Then they will be free to exercise the duty to race that they had hidden all along.

    we have the wolf by the ear, and we can neither hold him, nor safely let him go. justice is in one scale, and self-preservation in the other.
    —Thomas Jefferson to John Holmes, April 22, 1820

    It takes a certain kind of genius to understand and very succinctly explain the inherent social boundaries of multiracial societies, all while giving us a clue as to why White people fall behind and lose when they try and replace self-preservation[racial self-preservation] with things like universal justice and equality. The majority of black people don’t comprehend Justice. To them, Justice is simply getting what you want, and anything not giving you what you want is injustice. All of the talk about equality, justice and “not being a racist” serves no purpose when that which you give power only uses that power as a means to ensure its own self-preservation, and use that against those who still believe they can move forward by always trying to balance self-preservation and justice. Conservatives who still explain their position as not being racist are naive at best, traitorous, self-serving and at worst. Either way, they are probably just as poisonous and detrimental to White autonomy than any Leftist who blames the proclivities and destruction of blacks on White Privilege. White men knew this stuff 200+ years ago, but some Conservatives are still in a state of denial.

  • AmericanCitizen

    Why don’t white officers tell similar tales of tension in their communities, or other whites thinking they’re sellouts, or being afraid of white violence? Oh right, it’s because overall whites as a group align on the side of law and order. Yes there are white criminals, but what whites don’t do in majority white areas is run down their neighborhoods into war zones where police have to be cautious.

  • libertarian1234

    “……a 115 IQ Black will be placed in programs with 128 IQ Whites, only to sense–as they quietly do–that Whites catch on more quickly and perform better. ”

    Where did they find a 115 black?

    • Urbane Neanderthal

      How to find a black with a 115 IQ:

      Look for one thousand “blacks” with 7 white great grandparents, and 1 mulatto, then start testing…
      You might find one…

  • Lee_CPA

    One of the first times I became aware of the black mindset was in the 80’s when a black man raped a 12 year old black girl. The black police officers chased this guy into a public housing project and almost had a riot with all the black residents coming out and attacking them for arresting the black rapist.
    .
    The black police officer talked about “dignity and respect”. Hard to do when they don’t have respect for themselves, much less anyone else.

  • MrGJG

    How did you stumble in here?

  • Paleoconn

    Idea: bring in Chinese to police these people. Then close the borders completely.

  • joanofamerica

    not always, we do have to move. Now. For their lives as well.

  • joanofamerica

    Its okay. If you’re a black on this community, don’t dispair. Crunch the numbers. In Ferguson, 2100 peeps, 1400 (aprox) blacks, Only 500 came out to play. The rest were on the side of law and orderi just to afraid to speak up or they would be uncle toms and traitors. I do not agree with all I read on this site. Since Ferguson, I,ve seen more of the racist and not racial realists, major dif. We have a problem to fix and we can, I hope,

    • joanofamerica

      Boy, going to put on the old time movies now. Will fix the world on Sunday. Ps, wheres Anna Tree? I love her writing, so smart, but haven’t seen it on the posts or am I missing it?

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    • The five hundred who came out to play did a lot of damage.

      It doesn’t take that many to come out to play.

  • rebelcelt

    welcome to the club. Whites have had to be called racists and Nazi,s every time we thought about moving away from and avoiding Blacks. It is the same root problem., acting as if Blacks like whites in crime.