Raven-Symone, We Are Black Americans

Roxanne Jones, CNN, October 8, 2014

I get it. Raven-Symone doesn’t like labels. But she is wrong to run away from her blackness, seemingly hoping that no one acknowledges her beautiful brown skin and the history written all over her face.

“I’m tired of being labeled. I’m an American. I’m not an African-American. I’m an American.” The former star of “The Cosby Show” and “That’s so Raven” told Oprah Winfrey. “I mean, I don’t know where my roots go to. I don’t know how far back they go. . . . I don’t know what country in Africa I’m from, but I do know that my roots are in Louisiana. I’m an American, and that’s a colorless person, because we’re all people. I have lots of things running through my veins.”

Many of us have been exactly where she is, struggling to fit in. Trying to be “colorless” when there’s no way to look at someone without noticing appearance. And that includes color.

But Raven’s dilemma is part of the black experience in America. Our identity is not really a matter of choice. Black people were forefathers of this nation: slaves, soldiers, scholars and dedicated women and men who helped create these United States of America. For me, rejecting your blackness is downright un-American. The two words are inseparable. Being black equals being American.

So no matter how she tries to deny us, Raven is still ours, still black in the eyes of her community. And we remain proud of her. Proud and patient because we understand how the heavy burden of labels can crush your spirit and get in the way of your dreams.

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I’m not sure when this notion first clicked for me, that you cannot be black in this nation without also claiming your American-ness.

Maybe it was years ago after my great-aunt Rosie showed me a photo in our family album of one of my ancestors gallantly posed in his Civil War uniform.

That soldier was a black American.

Or, when my aunt talked with pride about her father who couldn’t read or write in any language but was a successful French chef in the South.

That chef was a black American.

{snip}

No matter what label the world may choose to describe me, one thing I never doubt is that I am a strong black American woman, whose heart beats with the African and Caribbean blood of my ancestors. Knowing this gives me strength, courage and joy every day of my life.

I cannot imagine ever separating myself from all of the courageous people who came before me to break down barriers, share their wisdom and pave the way so my journey is just a little bit smoother in this life. And in spite of her protests when Raven looks back just a bit, she’ll understand: She is also, among other things, a black American.

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  • B.A_2014

    My sister use to watch that pig.

    • Bandmoo

      Why, for punishment for not keeping her room clean?

      • B.A_2014

        Unfortunately because she’s an anti white moron. In love with Mandela, Latino culture ( I don’t know why an Irish girl would be interested in that sort of nonsense), and constantly talks about gay rights, women’s issues and the third world.

        • 1stworlder

          You can tell her that she will never meet a black in real life as smart as seen on TV. I worked with a black doctor that malpracticed himself to death and I still have not.

        • Sick of it

          While simultaneously knowing jack squat about Africans, Hispanics, homosexuals or the third world? That’s the usual trend.

          • B.A_2014

            Why would she. Shes a liberal. No need to go out and observe these people in their natural habitat or even read a book.

        • MannyR

          You pretty much just described about 75 % of white females in this country between ages 16 to 35. And they wonder why men like me won’t even consider marriage.

          • ShermanTMcCoy

            Go East, young man. Go East.

          • B.A_2014

            Where East exactly?

            I would appreciate some directions.

          • DonReynolds

            Sherman is probably talking about the FAR EAST…..Asian women.

          • ShermanTMcCoy

            Ukraine would be my recommendation, but one should not go crazy. One should look for a woman who is not completely our of one’s league. Those who go there for a sex vacation, offering desperate women a possibility of a new life, while really only trying to have sex with as many women as possible are among the lowest scum on the planet. There are many Russian ladies attempting to flee the attacks of the western-backed Kievites, and a 22-year-old 11+ would say yes to just about anyone to be able to escape. That said, my much younger 11+ and I have been married for 15 years, and life could not be better. My other bit of advice is, if a woman says that she wants a family, then she means it, and will generally put her children (and their father, if he is good to her) before career, or anything else.

          • Katherine McChesney

            Don’t blame women for your decision to stay single. It’s isn’t women’s fault that you’re afraid to make a commitment.

          • MannyR

            Yes indeed a lifetime commitment to being the underdog in any legal proceedings, having the threat of police called for domestic violence at any moment my significant other deems it necessary and paying 50 % of what I earn to her until shelf we decide to divorce. No. No thank you.

          • Katherine McChesney

            So you’re violent.

            Otherwise why would she deem it necessary to call the police.

          • MannyR

            Women use the domestic violence laws against men all the time. Ive had friends who have been arrested placed, in county jail and had to spend thousands of dollars to bail out and then clear their name against manufactured legal charges made by a vindictive woman. In most states if ANYONE calls the police to ANY address and the police respond, one of the parties must be arrested and charged regardless if either wishes to press charges. see more 0

          • Katherine McChesney

            You’re abusive. I get it. You are abusive toward women.

          • Max

            It happens. Some vindictive harpie claims she is “afraid for hers or her children’s safety” and the cops show up and your life is changed forever and women know it. I am fortunate to have a good mate but I have personally seen it happen to someone else who was one of the unfortunate ones.

          • One friends ex-wife, now late ex-wife called the police on him because he didn’t want to listen to her BS one evening, so he closed himself in the computer room. He didn’t lay a hand on her, but the Westminster (a Denver suburb) cops beat the bejesus out of him and then he spent six months in the county jail on work-release. His only charge was “resisting arrest”. Arrested for resisting arrest; that’s cute. Under Colorado state law, any time the police are called even for a non-violent domestic quarrel, they are legally required to arrest someone.

            He reconciled and the second time she went off on him, he drove down here and filed for divorce while staying with us four months, as he was not interested in receiving another epic-beat-down. He ended up having to pay her $3000 a month in alimony, and she died of an accidental overdose on prescription medication several months before he would have had to stop paying. He was hoping she would get hit by a bus.

            “Why a bus?”, I asked.

            “Because since I do not own a bus, nobody will blame me.”

            Another friend, also a software engineer and also in the Denver area was unknowingly involved with an ex-junkie and didn’t find out about that until she stabbed him in the neck and then proceeded to loot out his checking account.

            It turns out the psycho in the first story had also once been a heavy user of hard drugs and had spent time in the state loony bin in Pueblo. He didn’t know that about her. Hard drugs tend to make people crazy, and sometimes they stay that way, as their brain chemistry has been permanently altered.

          • DonReynolds

            Mr. Scott, always glad to see your comments here.
            Maybe you recall the crazy idea the Feminazis had back in the mid 1990s to pass a law requiring seven years in state prison on FIRST offense of domestic violence…..which is misnamed, since no violence is necessary. All the women thought it was a great idea, it seems….. until they starting thinking about the main breadwinner sitting in state prison for seven years. Such a law, most certainly, would lead to EVEN MORE domestic violence, since no one would dare call the cops when it would cost the family so much of their income.

          • Katherine McChesney

            Despite that men are far more abusive toward women and children than the reverse.

          • DonReynolds

            Thank you, Katherine. In your mind, all men are guilty of abusing women and children…..which contradicts the two cornerstones of American Justice….presumption of innocence and a fair trial.
            But I would agree with you, men are far more likely to be arrested and accused of domestic violence…..there being no requirement of proof or witness….plus the requirement under the law that “somebody” must be arrested when the police are called, even if they are called by one of the neighbors.

          • Katherine McChesney

            I never said ALL men. But, it’s true that in abuse cases men are the greatest percentage of abusers. Believe me I am NOT a feminist and I don’t hate men, in fact, I am a great champion of the WHITE MALE. I know that society demonizes the White Male but facts are facts. Historically, males are the greatest percentage of abusers in relationships.

          • DonReynolds

            There is no “historically”, Katherine. It is only recently that it was considered abuse, and certainly not a crime. Yes, facts are facts…. but no matter who initiates domestic violence, no matter who participates in domestic violence, no matter who is injured, no matter who was armed, no matter who was visibly injured, … it is the man who is arrested and charged.
            The same goes for sexual harassment. The term was invented in my lifetime to describe what had been considered normal behavior for generations, now it varies between a crime or an opportunity to fleece your employer.
            You may be more of a feminist than you would like to admit.

          • B.A_2014

            I read a study in which they asked women claiming to be victims of DV how many lied. 80% said the lied or exaggerated. That shouldn’t be too hard to find on google. Most men don’t report DV but women see it as a good card to play in divorce court.

          • B.A_2014

            You are mistaken miss Katherine. The NSPCC shows in the UK anyway that the majority of child abusers are women. More women live with their children than so that must be taken into consideration. DV fraud is rampant in societies were a woman’s word is treated as gospel. Studies have shown that most DV is mutual or women commit slightly higher levels of DV. I don’t really see much of a problem with slapping a hysterical woman firmly on the face before she takes it too far. You also have to take into consideration the manipulating personality of and the mind games women play and the effect this has on men. If women were jailed for psychological damage they cause men, the population would plummet to near extinction levels as almost every woman that has ever entered into a relationship has engaged in that sort of behaviour. I’m sure your a bright woman, after all your on Amren but you are being silly if you deny that.

          • Katherine McChesney

            I agree that one should be cautious when believing many claims of abuse by men as I know that women can sometimes play the victim role. But, women and children worldwide are the most victimized people on earth.

          • B.A_2014

            Victim, victim, victim!

            Every womans favourite word.

          • DonReynolds

            …..or in Texas, she might do that because she has been coached to do so by her divorce lawyer, or because she was strong-armed into doing it by the avenging angels at Child Protective Services…..under the threat of taking away her kids. Yes, they do that.

          • MannyR

            Women use the domestic violence laws against men all the time. Ive had friends who have been arrested placed, in county jail and had to spend thousands of dollars to bail out and then clear their name against manufactured legal charges made by a vindictive woman. In most states if ANYONE calls the police to ANY address and the police respond, one of the parties must be arrested and charged regardless if either wishes to press charges.

          • DonReynolds

            Domestic violence has become the new form of rape…..and like rape, prosecutors refuse to bring charges against a woman for making a false accusation. After all, that would somehow discourage other women from making false accusations against other men. This relative immunity from prosecution has resulted in divorce lawyers and child protective services workers coaching wives on how best to lodge false complaints against their estranged husband in order to punish him and force better divorce settlements for herself (and HER children, of course).
            Just as the definition of rape was broadened much wider than anyone ever thought possible……to include incidents where neither party thought was rape……the same thing has happened with domestic violence. In fact, they need a new word to describe it, since no violence is required for there to be “domestic violence”.
            I have known a number of verbally abusive women in my time but it was never considered verbal abuse until I reply to what they have been saying to me. Yes, calling her FAT is domestic violence. But my favorite examples of domestic violence were always those cases where a woman could not provoke a man to verbal abuse by her own best efforts…..in which case, she always claims…..”I could tell what he was thinking and I was afraid”. Yes, that is how bad it can really get.
            And like rape, it is particularly galling to the women advocates for a woman to be expected to answer questions about the crime of domestic violence or offer proof of a man’s guilt. Yes, they have even advocated allowing anonymous complaints or to be able to point their little finger and do nothing more.

          • bilderbuster

            You can thank Janet Reno for that.
            DV and sensational child molestation hoaxes were her claim to fame as dyke State Attorney in South FL and many innocent people were falsely sent to prison.
            Meanwhile record amounts of drugs were flowing through there and the Cocaine Cowboys (Columbians) were having shoot outs at shopping malls.
            She continued her DV campaign as AG when she wasn’t saving the children by shooting them at Ruby Ridge or incinerating them at Waco.

          • DonReynolds

            It gets better if you live in Texas. If she calls the cops alleging domestic violence, you can be denied bail until your case goes to trial …… which could be two years or more. That means you will wait in the county lockup during that time, lose your job (or your business), watch your credit (and bank account) get wiped out…..aside from what you pay your lawyer, and lose your home, everything in it, and any vehicles you might owe on. Of course, you can skip all of that if you will plead guilty as charged.

          • In many cases, and with both sexes, it is a “once bitten, twice shy” phenomenon.

          • DonReynolds

            He He……we had a young man the other day announce that he was going to get married.
            One of the older men offered to save him some time and grief……
            just go find a woman who hates your guts with a passion, give her everything you own now, and mail her half your paycheck until you retire. Then you will know what it means to get married these days.

          • MannyR

            I’ve made a fair amount of mistakes I my life that could’ve been avoided had I listened to those wiser and older than me, every man I have discussed marriage with has advised me to “not do it”.

          • DonReynolds

            My father and my grandfathers had rational reasons for marrying and the legal environment was not nearly so hostile and toxic. When I got married, it was under the same terms and conditions but during the 20 years I was with the same woman, that all changed. It was unfair and unreasonable to change the terms and conditions of marriage AFTER men and women commit to an entirely different legal arrangement. Had I been told how the laws were going to change, I never would have considered it. Of course, there was no one to tell me because it had never happened before in human history nor was it consistent with our legal traditions.

          • DonReynolds

            Katherine…..men are not afraid to make a commitment, they have done so for many centuries. But they may be reluctant to do something as foolish as to touch a bare electric wire, with so many dead men laying around it. The more certain the disaster, the more foolhardy the risk becomes. (The film series called Jackass comes to mind.) Women have no one to blame but themselves if men no longer believe they are worth what they cost…..like a casino, where no one is allowed to leave with any money they might win (or the money they brought with them).

        • AndrewInterrupted

          Send her a few links on Rotherham.

          • B.A_2014

            But not all muslims target women white women and rape, torture and sell them she said. I actually did have a conversation about rotherham with her and my mother. I tried explaining that there is only 10000 muslims in rotherham. I told them to consider that half the population is female and some of the men are too old or too young to take part in that sort of thing. How many muslim men between the age of 16 and 40 were involved? As you might have guessed the words racism was used frequently during that little debate.

          • AndrewInterrupted

            Yes, “racism” is the standard knee-jerk for the LIV. Sad story. Another European poisoned by the blue Kool-Aid.

        • Al Rex

          The Latino Culture is the Italian Culture. Anything Latin or Latino,which is the same thing, comes from Italy and not from Spain and not from Latin America. Don’t be fooled by the Hispanics and their lies.

          • B.A_2014

            I’m sorry. I fall into that sort of language a little bit too often. She is very interested in Italy though. She has been there a couple of times now. When she found out our great great grandparents hailed from Italy she became obsessed with all thing Italian. She loaths her Irish ,scottish and English ancestry though.

    • Person of Whiteness

      I used to watch That’s So Raven too, as well as that show Smart Guy about the black genius kid in high school. I turned out racially conscious enough though.

  • I know it isn’t much, but at least she tried to get away from the label of ‘African-American’ and just refer to herself as an ‘American.’ Oprah Winfrey almost fell out of her chair when Raven made the statement during an interview with her.

    The main point here, I suppose, is that even when blacks (rare though it is) try to avoid racial labels and simply refer to themselves as ‘Americans,’ there’s always a grievance industry saying ‘No!’ and emphasizing their blackness.

    In spite of what blacks say, they really don’t want a ‘colorblind’ society. This is another why whites must stop this ‘colorblind’ and ‘post-racial’ nonsense themselves. We’re the only one playing by the rules!

    • Oil Can Harry

      Every once in a while a black bohemian will come along and declare that they don’t care about color or “My race is the human race”.

      That’s when the bigoted, race-obsessed black majority lowers the boom on them and calls them sellouts who are “acting white”.

      • propagandaoftruth

        Except for Pastor Manning.

        Who needs Ruckus?

        • Samuel Hathaway

          Pastor Manning is a hoot…. I think i’m developing an addiction to listening to his parodies. But I hope he means them

          • propagandaoftruth

            I think he does. He has an entire church based on it.

            Weird. He still venerates MLK it seems, but never dwells on him. His message sounds far more like Booker T. Washington.

            His oratory weirdness is kind of hypnotizing.

            Takes all types to make a world. He certainly understands his folk better than most of any color.

          • Max

            I get the sense that Manning is trying to get blacks to stop being dependent and listening to the flim-flam artists like Al Charlatan and Jesse Jackass who want to maintain a perpetual crybaby plantation of dependent idiots. I think that Manning does have some genuine racial pride and is embarassed by the majority of blacks.

            Plus he is hilarious.

      • Sick of it

        Don’t forget the old term “Uncle Tom”…

    • Ron Cheaters

      African-Americans want to be Africans in America, they want to have it both ways. You’re either African or American.

      • Samuel Hathaway

        I have learned Hispanics are the same way. A Spanish professor from Panama recently sermonized that “we’re all Americans.” Panamanians, Nicaraguans, Mexicans, Peruvians, etc. We’re ALL from America, some from the United States in North America and others from Central and South America… but, in the end, WE ARE ALL AMERICANS.

      • bilderbuster

        They can call themselves anything they want but a spade is a spade.

    • OS-Q

      Colorblindness is racist now too according to our betters in academia and the government. We are either a person of color, a racist or…. or… I don’t know can a white person NOT be racist? Racism is today’s Original Sin; if you are white you must atone.

      • me

        The term ‘racist’=White. Period. Just another sly, underhanded method to keep ‘Whitey’ from realizing how he’s being vilified, demonized, and marked for extinction.

    • JInSanD

      I read an Oprah quote today where she said, “I’m a truffle freak.” So down to earth. Black people and white people everywhere can relate to that.

      • Xerxes22

        French farmers use trained pigs to sniff out wild truffles since pigs love truffles. They don’t let the pigs eat the truffles. So, I can understand how Oprah might be a truffle freak.

      • Valmont

        She probably meant chocolate truffles.

    • AndrewInterrupted

      Yes, Oprah WindBag is the Grievance Industry Government Occupation (GIGO) “government minder”. The Lavrentiy Pavlovich Beria of Cultural Marxism.

      Garbage In, Garbage Out.

  • MekongDelta69

    Roxanne Jones says, “I am a strong black American African woman.”

    Anytime these people bleat out the same, “strong, black woman” nonsense, you immediately KNOW they are insecure, have low self-esteem, and have to ‘beat their breasts loudly,’ because inside, they feel exactly the opposite of what they’re screaming to the world.

    • John

      I’m convinced that the statement “I am a strong black woman” is a reference to the smell that emanates from so many of them due to the chemicals they use to straighten their hair. I had the misfortune to get stuck in line behind one for 15 minutes a while back and almost lost my modest breakfast even though I tried breathing exclusively through my mouth.

      • AndrewInterrupted

        They have to use 2 EBT cards a week to keep that wire ironed out. Maybe American taxpayers would be more pragmatic by offering free “hair hats”?
        .

        • anony

          EBT cards should be restricted to bare essential foods only.

          • bilderbuster

            No white cheddar chee popcorn?
            Dat my girl’s favorite.

          • anony

            And no crab bisque or white wine, especially no white wine.

        • bilderbuster

          Her look like Geraldine Jones from Flip Wilson Show!

          • AndrewInterrupted

            I see your point.

  • anony

    Every time I hear an African say something like this, something inside screams “no you’re not!!”. The same thing happens when a news commentator calls some African a Brit, an Italian, a German, etc.

    Africans cannot be Europeans!!

    • Bossman

      Well then who is an American? If everybody is either an Asian, African or European, why then bother with nation states and creating allegiance to the flag and good citizenship?

      • LHathaway

        Whether you intend to or not, you seem to be making an argument for racial ethnostates.

      • anony

        An American is White. America was settled by Europeans, created by Europeans, and built by Europeans. All the rest are come-heres. They are our guests.

        Many have over-stayed their welcome. They should be invited to leave.

        • Samuel Hathaway

          I love it. Many kudos to your tell-it-like-it-is straight-talk.

          When Thomas Jefferson penned the Declaration of Independence, he described it as an “expression of the American mind.” Not the African mind, lord forbid. Not the Hispanic mind. Not the Chinese mind. Not the Arab mind. THE AMERICAN MIND. In other words, the WHITE MIND.

          • Bossman

            The American mind is a product of many influences from slaves on the plantations to the Indians on the frontiers. I’m sure Jefferson was aware of that. For most of his life, the first person he saw when getting up was Sally Hemmings who was 25% black.

          • me

            Nah. Jefferson saw his wife laying beside him when he woke up in the morning. Jefferson, most unfortunately, went out behind the wood pile with 75% White Sally, the slutty house servant, when he let his little head control his big head–and people like you never let that one go, as if it makes a whit of difference in context.

          • bilderbuster

            The Jefferson DNA points to Thomas’ nephew as the Jefferson who liked the mystery meat.

          • Samuel Hathaway

            Creepers, which slaves had any influence on our founding documents? And Indians identified themselves according to tribe. They didn’t think of themselves as Americans. And Sally Hemings never bore any Thomas Jefferson child… the Y chromosome in male line descendants of Eston Hemings, born 1808, evidence most strongly points to Randolph Jefferson, younger brother of Thomas.

          • anony

            That is unadulterated bs; if you would study just a little, you would find that the best evidence lays the “Jefferson” genes in that line on a first cousin of Thomas. Wake up.

          • bilderbuster

            And referred to the “Native Americans” as “Merciless Indian Savages”.

        • But, but, the article said that blacks are the forefathers of the country and created America! Those racist white men who claimed to found it just stole it from the proud African forefathers. Also, blacks were the first on the moon.

          • anony

            They are surely magical folks.

          • bilderbuster

            That was the African Mericans who were the first on the moon.
            African Africans had spaceships 10,000 years before America.

      • dukem1

        Well, Bossman, I’m an American. So you can start with me and take it from there.

        • Bossman

          Well good for you. I’m so glad to hear that. You’re in a privileged position. I hope you can make good use of that.

          • We made those privileges for ourselves. I make fishing tackle. This is not “our” fishing tackle which I must share with you, but mine.

          • bilderbuster

            That’s “White Privilege” to you mister!

  • In color continuum societies, she would not be classified as black. In color line societies, like ours, she is black.

  • Rhialto

    This smells like a PR move to activate Raven-Simone’s sagging career. We get it: You’re a mixed race lesbian. Few people care.

  • Bandmoo

    Nope, she is still a “n-word”.

    • IstvanIN

      That sounds a little unfair. I don’t follow “stars” but this girl but be OK, they’re not all “n’s”.

      • 1stworlder

        Yea the 99% give the rest a bad name

        • AndrewInterrupted

          She’s making a plea for amnesty from her position in the High Yellow Congress. Denied.

    • B.A_2014

      OoOOO my god. If I didn’t know any better I’d say you were a racist LMAO

    • Dats raciss!

  • I never read these stupid stories of “strong black women” overcoming adversity and sticking it to whitey. They’re BS. If this story were not posted here, I would skip it. If I ever visited the CNN site to browse, which I don’t.

    • MannyR

      ” Strong black woman” is code for loud mouth, immature, unable to get a date and sterotypically anti white. Especially thin actractive white women.

      • Samuel Hathaway

        “Strong black woman” is a code phrase for a fragile, guarded self-concept. You never hear white men bragging about being “strong white men.”

      • LHathaway

        lol, you comment is mildly disturbing. Didn’t know black women dating white women was such an industry.

        • MannyR

          I meant that black women typically vindictively hate attractive white women with a frenzy. Their jealous of what they know they can’t hold a candle to.

          • LHathaway

            Love and hate are the same thing.

          • anony

            Expressed in very different ways.

  • Lewis33

    “Being black equals being American.”

    Well…Uh…

    Nigerians too? Ugandans? Comments like this make you realize what kind of society we are dealing with. No thoughts, just feelings.

  • Alan Martin

    funny how these racist hypocrites and cultural marxists who complain about ‘labels’ sure do manage to pick the “labels” that involve every single aspect of white identity, culture, nationality, language and ethnicity to the be the ‘labels’ that magically get STRIPPED of any racial associations… to become the things that are multiracialized and internationalized and “shared” amongst everyone.

    granted that “african american” is a nonsensical term… a term that assigns a scripted identity of “historical” victimization at the hands of white americans… even if you are an black immigrant who stepped into the usa yesterday.

    but thats NOT what these kinds of non-white racists complain about… they do not assert a racially non-white identity free of any sociological dictates or “labels’ that they supposedly object too, that come with terms like so-called “african americans”

    no… these hypocrites then go on to take that white racial identifier and use that IN PLACE of their race…. effectively FORCING a dissaciation between white, and white ethnicity, culture, heritage etc. these hypocrits certainly DO LOVE LABELS, they just look to pick and choose wich they get to redefine.

    its yet ANOTHER layer of the kind of socially acceptable HATE directed at white societies and people… all done under this veneer of being somehow ‘non-racist’

    • me

      Racist=White. So, yes, they’re VERY non-racist.

  • SolStans

    That ‘Gro Raven. But in all seriousness, good for her for not busting out the “I’m So Oppressed!” card. She’ll never not be high-yella’, but at least she’s not ‘frican out on whitey.

  • Truthseeker

    I actually agree with the writer of this article. Black Americans are a distinct nation who should claim that as their identity. They may carry the blood of Africa or the Caribbean, but they aren’t exactly the same as those people either. It makes sense for them to feel a spiritual connection to those regions, but they should also recognize that they themselves have distinguishing qualities formed by a unique history of their own.

    Black Americans are also, as I’m sure no one here would disagree, cut from a different cloth than White Americans. I claim “White American” as my nation, and take pride in the unique history that my White American ancestors carved out for me. I also feel a spiritual connection to Europe just like Jared Taylor said he does in his recent commentary. White Americans should take pride in who and what they are, because race transcends political or geographical arrangements. The United States of America will fall apart one day, but the distinct nation of White Americans will live on. I am a White American because I can be nothing else.

  • Ograf

    The one thing that I really hate is when I see a White person telling a black how he isn’t prejudiced and has a lot of black friends. If he only knew how ignorant he is. Even the black knows it is BS because they do not like Whites nor do they act like they do.

    • That is the guilty white’s constant need for black approval. It is so important to get that approval.

      • me

        I neither want or need approval from people who want to see me dead.

        • anony

          All of my friends are White.

    • Alan Martin

      indeed, that shows how white people are INDOCTRINATED into accepting what is racial HATE towards them….

      it DOES NOT MATTER if someone white is not ‘racist’…if someone white doesnt think anyone else is inferior. it DOES NOT MATTER.

      its a HUMAN RIGHT for people to want to live in and maintain there own racial cutlures and communities… ALL PEOPLE claim that right, its the basic tenet of every human rights convention to exist.

      we call it racism, hate, and even genocide when its denied of people.

      so how do non-white racist worms and cultural marxists resolve their DESIRES and ideology with that fundamental human right?

      they DONT, they CANT. its why its so important for these hatemongers to DEHUMANIZE white societies…. reducing them to being nothing more than “racist systems” that need to be corrected…. not human beings who qualify for human rights.

      its that cultural marxist hate thats at work… where white people need to bend over backwards to prove they “love” so called multiculturalism and the like, thats the new “definition” of racism thats being applied…where white people need to act in the interests of another racial group, to the detriment of their own in order to “prove” they arent racist.

  • dd121

    Their color taints every aspect of my life.

    • TXCriollo

      It really does, no group in america is like them

      • Sick of it

        Hispanics commit violent crime to a similar degree. They can also be lazy, shiftless, etc.

        • TXCriollo

          well most non white hispanics are pretty typical

          • dd121

            You have a Hispanic name but don’t know if you’re really Hispanic. I’ve known a lot of Hispanics in my time and every one has been friendly, funny, full of common sense and ready to give you the shirt off their back. In short, they’re all typical human beings. This is quite unlike blacks who, in my experience, are much more ape-like. I think we should have separate societies but I respect you.

          • TXCriollo

            First off hispanic is a made up us term the correct term for non white hispanics is mestizo. True hispanics come from spain

          • dd121

            No offense meant. Didn’t know the origin of the word.

          • dd121

            Yipes! They deleted my post for reasons for reasons I don’t understand.

          • dd121

            My God! I say something nice about Mexicans and they shoot me. They do tend to be fat and have greasy hair. Is that good enough?

  • Bantu_Education

    “no one acknowledges her beautiful brown skin”

    Apparently neither does the writer because she then went on to (over)use the word “Black” 12 times..!!! Would it be raciss to call them “brown”?

    • dukem1

      That could mean she’s a Mezzican…Which opens a whole other can of beans,

  • LHathaway

    Whether she is right or wrong I suspect one thing is certain. If a white female were to take this speech, and simply take the word ‘black’ in each space and replace it with the word ‘white’ a white female giving this identical speech would likely be fired.

    • TXCriollo

      Yep, see the left needs the hearts and minds on the struggle of the black population. If they lose it which they are, they will lose the race card

  • TL2014

    Whenever a frog tries to escape the boiling pot, other frogs will pull it back down…what else is new…

    It must be very difficult to be a sentient black American”. They have no chance…

    • OS-Q

      Crabs in the pot pull each other down – frogs just sit their if you heat the pot slowly (supposedly, I wouldn’t boil an animal alive)

    • dukem1

      Really…I’ve often thought that, Ok, it’s a rough road being black in the US today.

      Be that as it may, I’d think that there are some Blacks who must be embarrassed by what counts as their spokesman throughout the media…Sharpton, Jackson, et al.

  • JSS

    “For me, rejecting your blackness is downright un-American. The two words are inseparable. Being black equals being American”.

    Yeah that’s why being American is pretty cheap these days. It’s also unAmurikan to value being White and not pretend that Africans somehow contributed just as much to this country as us Whites have. It’s unAmurikan to not want to live around them, pay for them, put up with their crime and poverty and be blamed for their chronic failures. That’s why I have no problem saying I no longer consider myself American sense being a loyal American is frankly degrading to any self respecting White man. I’m just a White man who hopes to see the day when we have a homeland of our own again.

    • me

      Hear, hear!

  • MannyR

    She identifies as African, think there’s any chance she’ll take herself her family and her tv money to go live in Africa. Yeah sure.

  • Douglas Quaid

    I actually liked the Cosby show when it was on, and I appreciate Cosby’s advice to blacks to quit whining about racism, go to school, get jobs, and get off of gov’t assistance. As a result Cosby has been shunned and banished as a pariah, he preached too much responsibility to a group for whom “responsibility” is a vulgarity .

    Raven seems like a mess with her open lesbo life, and vapid postmodern airhead cliches. Yet, I must give her credit, she really pissed off Oprah with her comment about not wanting to be a hyphenated American, just an American. Oprah has made a career out of race baiting and was horrified that sitting in front of her was a black who refused to conform to the race hustle.

    This article is the fallout from that.

    • bilderbuster

      I couldn’t stand The Cosby Show and to this day I don’t know why any adult ever thought there was anything funny about it. It was cheesy propaganda and even Cosby admitted it was a fantasy show about a Black “professional” family.

      Of course there was open propaganda with anti-Apartheid posters on his “son’s” bedroom walls and his “daughter” named her twins Winnie and Nelson after the Mandela’s so they were mentioned several times each episode.

  • Shadrach

    WHO CARES!?

  • Chris Granzow XI

    “Being black equals being American.”
    ….except for the hundreds of millions of blacks in Africa who aren’t. Someone should also tell her that her “caribbean blood” is the same as her African blood.

  • I am not sure that I am up on the proper terminology. Is it now from “black” to “African-black-negro-colored-non-white-american?” I don’t want to use the wrong term and be called a “raciss.”

  • superlloyd

    ”Black people were forefathers of this nation: slaves, soldiers, scholars and dedicated women and men who helped create these United States of America. For me, rejecting your blackness is downright un-American. The two words are inseparable. Being black equals being American.”
    What a load of specious and illogical nonsense. The only fact she gets right is the fact that blacks were slaves. The rest of the claims are downright lies. Blacks never built anything in America to equal their marvellous achievement of the African mud hut. Being a beast of burden does not equate to being an architect, founding father, statesman, general etc.
    Being black equals being a negro which is a community that is the antithesis of being American. A community (egged on by panderers, coddlers and enablers) that is engaged in the destruction of every value that America once held dear.

  • Demo P. Seal; PouponMarks

    Since Frederic Douglass, Black leaders said they wanted EQUALITY, not preferences. Well, they had preferences for 60 yeas, and now they unabashedly want preferences forever.

    In truth, they want to live at the expense of someone else, to mooch, to get paid what they don’t deserve, to underperform, study and prepare less, and expect equal employment outcomes. You can say the same for the majority of Browns.

    I believe the time has come to re-segregate the country, giving Whites and other races the volition to live and govern themselves apart, if they wish, and control their resources and wealth. One man-one vote is a slow suicidal death for Whites and any society and culture.

  • 4321realist

    “I’m tired of being labeled. I’m an American. I’m not an African-American. I’m an American.”

    No, you’re not.

    You’re an African.

    You’re no more an American than I would be Chinese if I lived in China.

  • AndrewInterrupted

    Every since Blacks learned how to fix their screwed up hair they’ve become uppity.

    • Bossman

      Black women are walking around with super hair these days but black men still need to shave their heads to look neat.

      • That is hair from Korean women weaved into wigs.

        • me

          “I’s can’t afford no food for my chilluns ’cause I be spendin’ all my monies at the beauty parlor on weaves an’ nails, so’s I can be beeyoutiful, honkey! Now, where be my foo’ stamps an’ rep’rations, you raycisss!”

        • bilderbuster

          And they look freakish and grotesque as blondes.

    • Saggin Gin

      “Dey go & git dur huur did”. Animals wear fur and the nap is just another type of fur.

  • “One of my ancestors gallantly posed in his Civil War uniform.”
    — Raven-Symone, quoted in original article.

    When I was in Croatia in 1991 I gallantly peed my trousers during the first shelling. I became quite used to doing that. Since I eventually understood I was going to do it anyway, why not get it over with? Eventually we all had diarrhea, due to the gallant water mains being broken, so on occasion we gallantly shat ourselves as well. I gallantly used my family’s ancestral gallant tomahawk and gallantly hand-grenaded the gallant Chetniks and gallant JNA regulars in gallant fights within gallant concrete buildings, and gallantly thought I was going to die all the gallant time. There were eventually gallant lice and fleas in my gallant uniform which was so eventually, gallantly encrusted onto me that it later had to carefully be cut off me with gallant scissors.

    It’s an odd, gallant critter who thinks that posing in a uniform makes an individual “gallant”, but if one substitutes the infamous “f-word” for “gallant”, this idiot might be able to rent a gallant clue.

    • me

      Right you are! Anyone can ‘pose’ in a uniform.

  • Saggin Gin

    We’re color coded for a reason. Black is dark and evil while white is pure and righteous.

  • while I do agree with some of her statement. One thing that most governments are paranoid of is a united people. A divided people are much easer to control. While I do despise labels such as African American Asian American ect. it brings out division. But between this current administration and many mainly black who really want to make a point that they are not White Latino or Asian, they helped obumer and holder drive a wedge in race relations between blacks vs Whites, blacks vs. Latino’s blacks vs Asians, they have put them selves into a corner that no one is willing to deal with a black person an many levels. It will take a few generations to restore any trust.

    • bilderbuster

      You watch too much FOX News if you believe there ever was or ever will be trust.

      • Full trust in government no it will never happen. But the restore a trust that they serve the people and not them selves, or foreign countries and people other than Americans. That would be nice. But fully trust, no unless Washington was completely wipe out by a rock from space during a full session of house and senate, so we can start over with our elected leaders,
        even then full trust may not happen. not hear. not now.

  • Katherine McChesney

    blah, blah, blah.

  • Even I don’t know why anymore.

  • Max

    Jones: “…rejecting your blackness is un-American…”

    and I am confident that she also believs that rejecting your whiteness is heroic.

  • brior

    Being black equals being American. … And being criminal, violent, parasitic, helpless,hateful, racist, all while getting every kind of welfare known to man handed to you and expecting more more more more

  • DonReynolds

    During my lifetime, black Americans have insisted on being referred to using specific words at different times. I can recall when they knew themselves as “colored” or “Negro”. Later, they insisted they be called “Afro” and “Afro-American” or simply “African”. Black would always seem the normal dichotomy to white, or Negro as opposed to Caucasian, but the most ridiculous of all is the latest…..African-American.
    The ONLY African-Americans are those persons who were born in one of the 53 African countries, who later came to the USA and became a US citizen. There are no other African Americans. The vast majority of blacks in the USA were born here and they are Americans.

  • Sun

    >Black

    >American

    Pick one.