Crime, Bias and Statistics

Charles Blow, New York Times, September 7, 2014

Discussions of the relationship between blacks and the criminal justice system in this country too often grind to a halt as people slink down into their silos and arm themselves with their best rhetorical weapons–racial bias on one side and statistics in which minorities, particularly blacks, are overrepresented as criminals on the other.

What I find too often overlooked in this war of words is the intersection between the two positions, meaning the degree to which bias informs the statistics and vice versa.

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A damning report released by the Sentencing Project last week lays bare the bias and the interconnecting systemic structures that reinforce it and disproportionately affect African-Americans.

This is the kind of report that one really wants to publish in its totality, for its conclusion is such a powerful condemnation of the perversity of racial oppression. But alas, this being a newspaper column, that’s not possible. Still, allow me to present many of their findings:

• “Whites are more punitive than blacks and Hispanics even though they experience less crime.”

• “White Americans overestimate the proportion of crime committed by people of color and associate people of color with criminality. For example, white respondents in a 2010 survey overestimated the actual share of burglaries, illegal drug sales and juvenile crime committed by African-Americans by 20 percent to 30 percent.”

• “White Americans who associate crime with blacks and Latinos are more likely to support punitive policies–including capital punishment and mandatory minimum sentencing–than whites with weaker racial associations of crime.”

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According to the report:

• “Whether acting on their own implicit biases or bowing to political exigency, policy makers have fused crime and race in their policy initiatives and statements. They have crafted harsh sentencing laws that impact all Americans and disproportionately incarcerate people of color.”

• “Many media outlets reinforce the public’s racial misconceptions about crime by presenting African-Americans and Latinos differently than whites–both quantitatively and qualitatively. Television news programs and newspapers overrepresent racial minorities as crime suspects and whites as crime victims.”

• “Disparities in police stops, in prosecutorial charging, and in bail and sentencing decisions reveal that implicit racial bias has penetrated all corners of the criminal justice system.”

The effects of these perceptions and policies have been absolutely devastating for society in general and black people in particular. According to the report:

• “By increasing support for punitive policies, racial perceptions of crime have made sentencing more severe for all Americans. The United States now has the world’s highest imprisonment rate, with one in nine prisoners serving life sentences. Racial perceptions of crime, combined with other factors, have led to the disparate punishment of people of color. Although blacks and Latinos together comprise just 30 percent of the general population, they account for 58 percent of the prison population.”

• “By increasing the scale of criminal sanctions and disproportionately directing penalties toward people of color, racial perceptions of crime have been counterproductive for public safety. Racial minorities’ perceptions of unfairness in the criminal justice system have dampened cooperation with police work and impeded criminal trials. In 2013, over two-thirds of African-Americans saw the criminal justice system as biased against blacks, in contrast to one-quarter of whites. Crime policies that disproportionately target people of color can increase crime rates by concentrating the effects of criminal labeling and collateral consequences on racial minorities and by fostering a sense of legal immunity among whites.”

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[Editor’s Note: The full report is available here.]

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  • MekongDelta69

    It figures the New York Slimes would take the ‘word’ of the far-left, anti-White Sentencing Project.

    In all their ‘glory’:
    http://www[dot]discoverthenetworks[dot]org/groupProfile.asp?grpid=6900

  • evilsandmich

    Although blacks and Latinos together comprise just 30 percent of the general population, they account for 58 percent of the prison population.

    Math can be racist like that. It really should be more considerate of institutional racism and crap like that.

    • Publius Pompilius Quietus

      If it’s a choice between statistics and the poor egos of Blacks, I’ll trust what the statistics say.

      • APaige

        Black males between the ages of 14 and 24 are about 1.1% of the total U.S population. They account for 27%-30% of the murders depending on the year since 1990.

        • 313 48224

          Dat be racis. TRUE…but racis.

      • StillModerated

        Benjamin Disraeli said there are lies, damnable lies, and statistics. I’ll put the mortgage on the latter. The other two I’ll leave to the gutter press.

    • 313 48224

      I have always said that math, science, reason and logic are racist. Soon they will declare that security cameras are racist because too many brothers are getting caught.

      • Jim Henry

        It is amazing the excuses the liberals regurgitate to downplay non-white crime stats. I’ll bet you Mr. Blow could come up with justifications that two plus two does not equal four.

  • Easyrhino

    ” “White Americans overestimate the proportion of crime committed by people of color and associate people of color with criminality.”

    I’d wager that those same naïve White people also associate pit-bulls as being more dangerous than Golden Retrievers when in fact we know all dog breeds display the exact same levels of aggression.

    Right?

    • Douglas Quaid

      Funny you should mention pitbull aggression in the context of race. On my way to work tonight I saw a large white woman, with a mullatto daughter at her side, being pulled around by a massive pitbull. The dog was huge, an impressive specimen really, but, obviously not being trained whatsoever as the lady resembled a large jiggling adipose sled being pulled down the sidewalk.

      So much or our discussions over here really deal with the classical nature vs. nurture debate and I come down saying, “Yes.” Are pitbulls more aggressive than other breeds? Probably, sure seems that way. But, at the same time it seems like almost every time I see a pitbull in public some d-bag punk idiot is usually the owner.

      • B.A_2014

        we own a pitbull ( George ) and he is the friendliest dog our family has ever had. The three pitbulls we have had have all been wonderful pets. Bryan ( my aunts pitbull ) was a fighting dog used and tortured by gypsies until my landlord ( his son is now my land lord after he hung himself in jail servin the rest of his life sentence ) walked into the camp armed to the teeth and demanded the dog. He was wonderful around children and extremely docile with humans and small dogs but big dogs knew their place in the street lol My pitbull missy ( escaped never to be seen again ) and George were and are about a year old. We can’t let george around children as he is too hyper but in year’s to come I don’t think we would have any qualms about doing so. If I had to choose between putting the pitbull in a room for an hour with a child or a random negro I think I would choose the pitbull. I don’t think they are more violent than other dogs ( I think they are much less violent ) , just if they do attack you better pray there is a weapon handy or the dog takes pity on you before he attempts to rip out your throat.

        • Stan D Mute

          Bingo! Pits were bred as fighting dogs. And like other large breeds (think Mastiff, Great Dane, Tosa, St Bernard, etc) animals that show human aggression typically aren’t bred and are put down. A dog aggressive to humans is useless. The problem, as you said, is when a Pit *does* attack it often kills since that is what it was developed to do. When a Mastiff attacks, it basically sits on a human and prevents him from moving. A Tosa kills like a Pit. A St Bernard attack I’ve never seen nor heard of. Dogs do what we have bred and developed them to do.

          • Alexandra1973

            I had a Great Dane once and he was a big baby. Our Boston terrier used to snap him on the nose to remind him who had the seniority in the family. Our Doberman (the middle dog) thought she was the Great Dane’s mother.

            When I was a baby our German shepherd guarded my crib at night (we lived on Trumbull in Detroit then). She also didn’t like blacks.

          • Stan D Mute

            We had a Mastiff when my son was a baby. The dog was close to 200lbs but the kid could have stabbed him in the eye with a fork and he would have only walked away. I’ve never seen a more protective or loyal animal, yet we never heard him growl (ever) and only a handful of times did he bark (the walls sorta shook when he did). He did *not* appreciate Africans and would *not* allow them in the house. An African FedEx or UPS driver would come and he would stand in between my wife and the door. He was also the gentlest dog I’ve ever had, he could take the smallest dog treat from your hand without touching your hand – an amazing feat considering his snout was so large he couldn’t see the treat when he took it. For an indoor dog, and those who really love dogs, I highly recommend the Mastiff.

          • Nancy

            A better analogy would be one between, say, snakes and bunnies.

            For example, lots of people I know like to claim “most snakes are harmless” (which around here is true). However, when the average person encounters one, and is unfamiliar with snake species, the best rule of thumb is to stay the hell away from it. Why? A certain percentage are dangerous. (Same goes for dogs to a lesser extent. After all, what do we all teach our children? “Don’t go up and try to pet an unfamiliar dog, just to be safe.”)

            At the same time, no one would really think twice about handling a bunny or guinea pig, for example…even though I’ve owned some mean-a$$ guinea pigs in the past. Why aren’t they afraid, and warning their kids? Because “dangerous” animals like rabbits and guinea pigs are much less likely. Do they exist? Sure. But they’re so few as to be irrelevant. (Like white flash mobs.)

            Yet you don’t hear these idiot liberals running outside to play with the 4-foot snake they just found in the shed. By that same logic, we also don’t see them forming groups to support the “poor, misunderstood indigenous snake population”, nor do they want to “import more snakes from other continents”. Even though in my state/county, there are only 2 species of snake out of I-don’t-know-how-many that are actually dangerous. It’s best we DON’T bring in more.

            (Actually, snakes serve more purpose on this earth than your average Bantu, so we’d be better off if we had to choose between the two.)

          • ghettovalley

            German Shepherds are great pets. They seem very intelligent and perceptive of their owners body language and emotions. I believe that the one I owned as a child would have fought to the death to protect me. You can’t find this type of unconditional loyalty in people.

      • Max

        “…almost every time I see a pitbull in public some d-bag punk idiot is usually the owner.”

        Birds of a feather…

  • disqus_Xz3UA6obwj

    How exactly have we “disproportionately directed penalties toward people of color”? This is your typical black blame gaming propaganda going on here. Blacks will never face the truth about themselves honestly.
    All one has to do to understand the truth about blacks and crime is look to the crime rates in black majority areas that have black mayors, black police chiefs and black police officers. This dishonest black clown Charles Blow who wrote this story should be fired.

    • Mack0

      Correlation does not imply causation. Blacks makes this mistake repeatedly. For them, more black in jail must have a racist cause. It is never the result of actions by their communities.

      • John R

        Correlation does not equal causation. Blacks AND liberals make this mistake all the time.

        • Yancy Derringer

          Correlation does not equal causation. Yet the New York Times will choose to support the flawed assertion anyway. And further downhill she tumbles.

  • Mack0

    Another example of the rampant conspiratorial mindset of the black community. Anything unpleasant about their community can’t be true and is the result of a vast conspiracy by whites. Blacks will never take responsibility for themselves. Without having an honest appraisal of their community they will continue to flounder in a third world state of poor achievement.

    I read this article yesterday and I noticed immediately that the comment section was closed for this particular article. This article is nothing but pathetic hand waving. By this time we must all realize they will never change. The best course of action is for us to begin to build our own insulated communities.

  • The NYT needs a whole columnist basically to cut and paste a press release from a group that advocates for criminal defense lawyers?

    All Charles Blow needed was nine words to say what he really wanted to say:

    Blacks and Hispanics should be exempt from criminal law.

  • Robert Binion

    If you’re writing for the Gray Lady
    Be sure to wear some flowers in your hair.

    • Stan D Mute

      Or a bone through your nose and a plate in your lip.

  • shawnmer

    It’s been a few years since AR updated the Color of Crime. With “reports” like this in mind, along with accumulating attacks on the facts in Color of Crime – think fatuous but cleverly propogandistic work like Tim Wise – it’s time they did so.

  • shawnmer

    • “White Americans overestimate the proportion of crime committed by people of color and associate people of color with criminality. For example, white respondents in a 2010 survey overestimated the actual share of burglaries, illegal drug sales and juvenile crime committed by African-Americans by 20 percent to 30 percent.”

    I checked the actual report, this is somewhat deceptive wording. The fact they’re referring to is that whites, when asked to estimate what portion of violent crime is committed by blacks, they guessed 40%. The actual figure – and they claim to reference the Crime Victimization Survey, the same source Jared relies on heavily in COC – is 29%.

    The “20-30%” overestimate is proportional, the actual point difference was 11 points. Put differently, the report is complaining that whites estimate black involvement in violent crime to be slightly more than 3 times their presence in the population instead of the correct figure of just over double! As if that’s some huge bit of unfairness!

    • John R

      Personally, I don’t believe for one moment that Whites “overestimate” the proportion of crimes committed by blacks. Remember that in areas where most blacks live, crime is so rampant that authorities don’t prosecute many of the smaller crimes or plea bargain the more serious ones. No, Whites as a group are smarter than that.

      • shawnmer

        You’re probably correct. I mean just as a matter of using a very important source for us, the crime survey, consistently. It was invaluable in COC to deal with the question of police “bias” to be able to point to the fact that basically the same percentage of blacks were ID’d as perps as the percentage who were arrested, tried, and incarcerated.

    • Stan D Mute

      Note also they “over estimated” just a couple specific crimes – ie “burglaries, drug sales, and juvenile” while they *under-estimated* murders and robberies! This is LYING by omission. Whites UNDER-ESTIMATE black commission of VIOLENT crime by at least 10%

      • Yancy Derringer

        No wonder they closed down the comments section, an embarassing admission that this ridiculous study crumbles under simple scrutiny. What should be embarassing, I should say.

        • Stan D Mute

          I tried to post that same comment, but the comments were shut down even as I was typing. I didn’t see a single critical comment so perhaps they intercepted some before mine and shut it down.

  • Adolf Verloc

    Statistics is a great cleanser, erasing BS in social science, politics and economics. Oddly, I enjoyed my stat courses in college and still find them of great value.

    • Max

      Statistics is the white-man’s usual trickery. You must be white if you liked statistics.

  • dd121

    Considering that the liberals count Mexican/Mestizo as white in the crime statistics they’re actually overestimating the volume of white criminality. Can’t believe any statistics that come from the government.

    • John R

      Thank you. I didn’t even think of that. Yeah, “overestimate black crime percentage” my arse!

    • me

      This… The crime rates for “Whites”, if they’re counting only genetic “Whites” aka European Americans, would be almost non-existent. Compare the swarthy hordes that are the true TERRORISTS–not patriotic, Constitutional, European Americans.

  • RyanP

    “Television news programs and newspapers overrepresent racial minorities as crime suspects and whites as crime victims.”

    Really? What news are you watching?

    • Ike Eichenberg

      John Langley – producer of the show COPS:

      “What irritates me sometimes is critics still watch something and say ‘Oh look, they misrepresent people of color.’ That’s absolutely not true,” said Langley, the show’s producer, in 2009.

      To the contrary, “I show more white people than statistically what the truth is in terms of street crime. If you look at the prisons it is 60-something percent people of color and 30 something percent white people. If you look at COPS is it 60 percent white and 40 percent other. It’s just the reverse. And I do that intentionally because I do not want to contribute to negative stereotypes.”

    • me

      Behold, the Ministry Of Propaganda. Merchant owned, programed, and tweaked for your brainwashing pleasure…..

      • PvtCharlieSlate

        Oy veh!

  • Bon, From the Land of Babble

    Discussions of the relationship between blacks and the criminal justice system in this country.

    Discussing the relationship between blacks and the criminal justice system in this country won’t resolve anything.

    White Americans who associate crime with blacks and Latinos are more likely to support punitive policies– including capital punishment

    Damn right I do.

    • Bon, From the Land of Babble

      White elderly, children, handicapped, helpless ALL have been subjected to mindless, brutal black assaults, rapes, tortures and murder.

      Covered up by the media, including the heinous black-on-White crime I posted last night:

      KANSAS CITY, Mo. — “On Wednesday, police charged a 34-year-old (BLACK) man with the triple homicide Tuesday afternoon in South Kansas City, in a quiet neighborhood just north of Blue Ridge Blvd., and east of Wornall Road near the Blue Hills Country Club.

      Brandon Howell is accused of killing (WHITES) Susan Choucroun, 69, Lorene Hurst, 88, and her son Darrel Hurst, 68.”

      • dd121

        Nathan Dunlap, the negro who shot five whites dead, execution style at a Chucky Cheese, has been given an indefinite reprieve for his death sentence which came due about a year ago. The democrat governor here in Colorado, John Hickenlooper, should be turned out of office for that reason alone in November. In addition he’s an over-the-top anti-gun advocate. He’s threatening to give Dunlap a full commutation of sentence if he loses the election.

        Why is it that democrats have no compunction about allowing the murder of countless unborn babies yet refuse to execute a deserving viscous murderer?

        P.S. Dunlap’s mother apparently made anti-white rants for years at her place of employment. It was well know and nothing was ever done to punish her. By their own words, these people had a visceral hatred of whites. None of that was ever reported in the local news, of course.

        • Whitetrashgang

          Why is it that democrats have no compunction about allowing the murder of countless unborn babies yet refuse to execute a deserving vicious murderer? This is why I never argue with liberals or blacks, if some people have no common sense what is the point?

          • Max

            This is entirely consistent with a generally inverted sense of morality manifested in everything else they touch.

            Big companies are bad, big governments making self-perpetuating laws and killing millions good; married heterosexual women are slaves, married homosexual women are liberated; pornography is specially protected speech in the university but sociology of racial differences is dangerous hate speech and must be censored. Christianity is a dangerous superstition but Islam is the religion of peace to be respected in the name of diversity… And on and on.

            Tolerance only extends to those with whom they agree.

      • phillyguy

        I remember Autumn, she was killed by 2 negros ages 15 and 16, for her bike, they found her in a trash can sitting on the negros section 8 taxpayers funded house,, the kicker is they were charged as juveniles,, I hope the father is waiting for them outside the juvenile detention center when they get out in two years.

        • Usually Much Calmer

          If other paternal responses are anything to go by, he’ll be waiting with flowers and a hug. Displaying appropriate outrage and catching the flak is just too hard.

          • Alexandra1973

            If her father is anything like mine was, jail would be the least of their worries.

            My sister was molested by one of my mom’s relatives (he was a known pervert), and Dad promised that if that cousin ever came around again, he’d shoot his knees off with his .357 Magnum.

            Needless to say, when that cousin died, no one really seemed overly upset by it.

            My dad was no flowers-and-a-hug kind of father!

      • Alexandra1973

        I have tears coming in my eyes now. Those poor kids…and I blame it on the coddlers.

    • Douglas Quaid

      I don’t care about the race, anyone who does that to a kid needs to die in the same manner. She/he? blowtorched the kid to death she/he? should be slow roasted to death. But, because of the disproportionate crime rates among the races that according the NY Times doesn’t exist, to be a strong advocate for the death penalty is now equated with racism.

    • me

      As if we don’t know better by now……

  • JohnEngelman

    Anyone who has had to live with blacks knows that they are much more dangerous than whites.

    • B.A_2014

      don’t you live in a black neighborhood or am I confusing you with someone else?

  • A Freespeechzone

    So…do liberals want to give black criminals a pass for their violent behavior so the statistics are more racially equal?

    Let’s be honest, the hard, cold facts are that negroes, as result of their anti-cooperation, anti-society attitude and violent behavior ARE committing more crimes against society.

    Moreover, we are seeing more and more brazen, violent and embolden attacks on Whites for no other reason than existing that are encouraged by the attitude of the likes of Obama, Holder, Sharpton, Jackson, anti-White hating blacks and self-loathing White liberals.

    The liberal hacks like the NYT ignore the black violence that is escalating; the emasculation of LE to appease the black appeasing politicians and the ultimate backlash that WILL happen if this is not stopped.

    • Max

      His Hopefulness said that he would “bring us together”.

      The media just didn’t realize or care that it was by way of violent personal crimes against whites.

  • Ike Eichenberg

    Racial bias makes blacks three quarters of the shooters and shooting victims in ~25% black NYC.

    • kjh64

      Blacks hands down are the worst. Hispanic shootings are often gang related and don’t affect the average person whereas Black shootings include, gang related AND criminal thuggery.

    • Puggg

      Add black and hispanic suspects and you get 96.5%. Sure, no reason at all to do SQF.

    • LHathaway

      So nearly 2/3rds of murderers get away with it?

      • Ike Eichenberg

        1299 victims and 475 arrests, it does look like 2/3rds get away.
        It’s hard to say how many incidents were multiple victims or multiple assailants (even if only one criminal shot someone a non-shooting accomplice could be charged with the shooting)
        But it does look like NY’s finest are not making to many arrests.

        However when you consider blax are reluctant to tell the cops who shot them, I can’t place all the blame on law enforcement.

        • Max

          Could be more than one victim per assailant also confusing the ratio.

          In any case you KNOW whites are overestimating. Charlie said so.

  • TruthBeTold

    New York Times Headline:

    Reality is Wrong

    • Douglas Quaid

      Ignorance is strength.

      • me

        Double plus good. War is peace. Slavery is freedom.

        • Max

          Should read: Big Brutha’.

  • Max

    • “White Americans overestimate the proportion of crime committed by people of color and associate people of color with criminality. For example, white respondents in a 2010 survey overestimated the actual share of burglaries, illegal drug sales and juvenile crime committed by African-Americans by 20 percent to 30 percent.”

    With all of the white bias allegedly intrinsic to statistics, why did the vast right-wing conspiracy fail to sanitize this statistic also? We must be slipping.

  • journey

    Another useless article. If this country was so hard and biased on nonwhites, where’s the mentioned of Asians in the author’s non reality oriented narrative = would be no article.

  • a1781054

    I wasn’t able to comment on this article. Is anyone else having this problem? I see waaaayy to many liberal comments on this article! If you have an account and can post on there, please do! More sanity is needed!

    • Spikeygrrl

      TOO. TOO many liberal comments.

  • Flytrap

    Just for kicks, if you want to read fanciful, faith based comments by irrational zealots, go to the original story.

    • Usually Much Calmer

      And just to understand why this narrative is winning, look at the report this Op-Ed is based on.

      It is a consummate piece of propaganda, I mean really well done.

      I encourage everyone to peruse it and find out what we are up against and take note.

      Our most promising front to change perceptions is the ongoing discoveries in medicine and genetics. We don’t have to battle ‘soft’ reports like this head on, we just have to supplant them at the periphery of other discussions. But we do have to do that, there’s not getting around it. So study up, fellows!

  • LHathaway

    They’ve discovered that race and that whites do exist, not as crime victims or even as criminals serving time in the criminal justice system. They’ve discovered whites when they need someone to pair with the words, ‘biased’, ‘racist, ‘over-estimate’. When people of color have ‘perceive’ or ‘see’ things, it’s assumed their vision is accurate, and important.

    • R L Buds

      I hear some fool (on the “news”) say something like “for some reason whites seem to just take the officer’s word about what happened” (Darren Wilson). Of course the blacks know better and are still taking the thugs word for it.

  • Alexandra1973

    I saw a picture of the author–and stopped reading there.

  • Douglas Quaid

    It is true, blacks are stopped and harassed by police more often than whites. This is a fact. The Lib then takes this and says, “Racism!” Whatever that means. Whereas someone like me says, “Well, maybe if blacks weren’t creeping around late at night doing things that attract police attention perhaps they wouldn’t be bothered as often? Perhaps they should go home and get some rest for work in the morning?”

    • TonyWestfield

      Douglas, here is a computation that’s so obvious that I refer to it as “arithmetic I learned from the village idiot”…If it is claimed that too many members of a specific group are incarcerated, yet the group commits more than it’s share of crime out here in the free society, then in fact TOO FEW of the group is in jail. Stated another way, if a group that’s 13% of the population commits more than 13% of the crime, then this group ought to be arrested and jailed at increasing intensity…until the group is committing 13% (its proportional share) of the crime. Can you imagine how intense and efficient the arrest/incarceration would have to be in order to reduce a certain special group’s share of crime down to 13%?

      • Douglas Quaid

        Makes perfect sense.

  • none of your business

    ” Television news programs and newspapers overrepresent racial minorities as crime suspects and whites as crime victims.”
    Total absolute brazen lie. Except for stormfront vnn freerepublic amren CofCC and a few “neo nazi KKK racist websites the media always always covers up black crime. In fact the only way readers can tell if criminals are black is if the race is not mentioned.

    Is that not in itself racist? When the NYSlimes refuses to state the race of the criminal does that not signify to the reader that the criminal is black? Therefore the NYSlimes is racist because refusal to name the race of criminals implies that the criminal is black.

    I think the sentencing project is the descendent of Charles Garry and Faye Stenders prison law project run by red diaper babies who are now grandparents although there are so many of these overlapping organizations run by a rotating crew of anti White racists it is hard to keep track.

  • B.A_2014

    Even if it were true that whites overestimate crime committed by blacks and latinos, what does that have to do with the actual crime committed by the vibrant ones. If blacks commit 50% of homocides but whites think it is 60 or 70% is the problem black murderers or whites overestimating.

    • R L Buds

      Excellent point

  • superlloyd

    ”They have crafted harsh sentencing laws that impact all Americans and disproportionately incarcerate people of colour.” Because blacks are disproportionately criminal.

    Harsher sentencing for blacks is more BS. They are given harsher sentences for the same crime as whites because they have more previous, relevant convictions than whites.

    This idiot probably believes in a no criminal sanction regime or, at best, a soft regime that shows equal outcomes according to racial demographics. No disparate impact despite the reality of much higher black criminal activity per capita than any other racial demographic.

  • Stan D Mute

    “white respondents in a 2010 survey overestimated the actual share of burglaries, illegal drug sales and juvenile crime committed by African-Americans by 20 percent to 30 percent.”

    White respondents UNDER-ESTIMATED the actual share of Africans committing MURDER, and ARMED ROBBERY and RAPE.

    Hmmm. Now how did those facts escape this writer’s attention?

    • Mack0

      It’s all about the writers agenda.

    • TonyWestfield

      Stan, there is a simple generic reason for these under-estimations. A normal human mind has difficulty grasping that such disproportions can exist. Carjacking, for example–and I’m referring to “pure” jacking, not when it’s incidental to a getaway attempt after some other crime–I’m talking about a couple guys deciding that their next attempt at an enterprise is to stick a pistol in the face of a driver (someplace where “those people” all have nice cars) and take the car by force, often while exacting historical revenge upon the owner of the nice car by shooting a hole in the owner’s head…our gilded 13% commits such a high percentage of this crime that it’s hard to believe…the percentage begins with an “8” or a “9” depending on the year and the region. Likewise “stranger” rape, which is distinct and different from acquaintance rape (because the strategy for avoidance is separate and distinct). Statistics on rape always bundle the two types, which masks the racial factors because nearly all acquaintance rape is same-race. If you break out the “stranger” danger and analyze it separately, you’ll find that if your sister gets assaulted in a parking lot or in consequence of a home invasion (or even incidental to a burglary attempt in which the perp “finds” a female in the home), it’s around 75% probable that the perp will be a member of the gilded 13%. Again, 75 from 13 is hard to grasp, but it’s true.

      • Stan D Mute

        I think it’s hard to grasp only for those unfamiliar with Africans. But in that sense I agree with you – for the suburban white who’s never had to be around the typical urban Africans, they’re utterly unprepared for the experience. They’re very nearly a completely different species in the noise they produce, the lack of intelligence displayed, the unprovoked savage violence, etc. Take a white kid from a quiet intelligent family and drop him into that environment and it will be as alien as – well – as dropping him into some tribal village in the Congo where *he* is what’s for dinner.

    • Jack Burton

      Confirmation bias, lying by omission… typical of mentally ill liberals.

  • tlk244182

    So if I understand the article, a Marxist front group called The Sentencing Project has released a report which concludes that the American criminal justice system is racist. Why, exactly, is this fact newsworthy?

    • Jack Burton

      It’s such hilarious nonsense, because they advocate lawmaking which impacts races in equal number… and how would you even craft such absurd laws to begin with, by statistics which show disproportionate criminality, which is racist itself according to them, LOL.

  • gah

    I’ve been reading for years about how blacks are discriminated against in sentencing, how a white guy caught with coke will be given less time than the black guy with the same amount of coke. What they usually don’t bother to tell you is that the black guy has prior arrests, and the current offense was plea bargained down from a felon in possession of a firearm, assault, resisting arrest, and stuff like that.

    • Mack0

      Prior criminal history and concurrent charges are key to understanding black crime statistics. This information is conveniently ignored again and again.

  • AmericanCitizen

    Progressives will go to any length to keep their self-delusions going. If the statistics point out high rates of black criminal behavior, well then, the actual stats must be racist.

    I never knew that a list of numbers that correspond to documented events could be racist. I guess you learn something every day.

  • Lord Sandwich

    “Crime policies that disproportionately target people of color.” Otherwise known as “Laws.”

  • B.E.L.

    We simply have to visit their home countries, Africa and South America, to see how violent they really are. There are no white people in those countries to “oppress” them and crime is completely out of control, frequently to the point of downright genocide (especially in Africa).

    And we expect them to behave differently here? The truth is they do behave differently here, because white people are here and we have civilized this country. White people are the glue holding this place together. Of course liberals and progressives are so disgusted with their own white skin they delude themselves into believing we are the brown mans bane.

    My simple question is, if white people are the cause of so much turmoil for brown people here in the United States, then who is to blame in their home countries?

    This isnt rocket science, they are third world people bringing their third world problems here. It doesnt matter that blacks have been here for hundreds of years, they are still third world people and always will be, with or without white people.

  • Sloppo

    “Television news programs and newspapers overrepresent racial minorities as crime suspects and whites as crime victims.”

    I believe the truth is the exact opposite of this statement.

  • R L Buds

    The “author” made an good point here • “Whites are more punitive than blacks and Hispanics even though they experience less crime.”

    We don’t tolerate crimes commited by our own why should we tolerate theirs?

    • ZB01

      If I were a betting man, I’d say, “Whites experience(??) (are victims of) less crime, per capita, from other Whites and Asians. From blacks and Hispanics, it is another story entirely.”

    • Jack Burton

      That’s how stupid he is. He’s in fact contradicting himself and agreeing with the whites he indicts, that blacks and Hispanics are more criminal, they don’t believe in the rule of law.

      Charles Blow can go blow, like the typical liberal his arguments are fallacious nonsense which clearly show his own bias and willful deception.

  • brior

    Three men facing charges in ‘horrific’ abduction, rape of 15-year old girl in Upper Darby …… This was not a big deal to the MSM in the USA

  • brior

    Just last night three Mexi nationals caught rapeing a 15 year old girl in a van while driving around Ft Worth. The blacks and browns are keeping the crime stats rayciss!

  • Max

    Indeed, the incongruous nearsightedness here is interesting. The same people here who have no doubt of the inherent danger of blacks at birth start with the warm anecdotes about pit-bulls and shepherds.

    Like people, few dogs are dangerously violent but MOST of the violence is perpetrated by a relatively few varieties. I am a “dog-breed realist”.