The Growing Blue-State Diaspora

Robert Gebeloff and David Leonhardt, New York Times, August 23, 2014

Californians have moved to Colorado and Nevada. Massachusetts natives have moved to New Hampshire. New Yorkers have moved to North Carolina and Virginia–and, of course, have continued moving to Florida.

Over the last few decades, residents of many traditionally liberal states have moved to states that were once more conservative. And this pattern has played an important role in helping the Democratic Party win the last two presidential elections and four of the last six. The growth of the Latino population and the social liberalism of the millennial generation may receive more attention, but the growing diaspora of blue-state America matters as well.

The blue diaspora has helped offset the fact that many of the nation’s fastest-growing states are traditionally Republican. You can think of it as a kind of race: Population growth in these Republican states is reducing the share of the Electoral College held by traditionally Democratic states. But Democratic migration has been fast enough, so far, to allow the party to overcome the fact that the Northeast and industrial Midwest contain a smaller portion of the country’s population than they once did.

The migration helped President Obama win Colorado, Florida and Virginia in both 2008 and 2012. In 2014, the influx of blue-state natives gives Democrats a better chance to win Senate races in Colorado, Georgia and North Carolina, among other places.

The spread of people born in New York State offers a particularly telling example: Of the 20 million Americans alive today who were born in New York, nearly one in six now live in the South. That would have been almost unthinkable 50 years ago, when the share was one in 25.

As part of a recent analysis of migration patterns over the last century, based on census data, we created an index to see how these patterns might be altering the electorate. We started by defining each state as red, blue or purple, depending on whether it voted for only one party or both in the four presidential elections since 2000. The method gave us 10 purple, 18 blue and 22 red states. We then looked at what had happened since 2000 among natives of each kind of state.

The first thing we noticed was a major blue-to-red shift: Since 2000, the blue-born population in red states has grown by almost a quarter, to 11.5 million, or 12 percent of the states’ total population.

The changes in purple North Carolina (where the blue-born population is up an astounding 41 percent since 2000) and Georgia (30 percent) are fairly well-known. Perhaps not as well-known is the migration of blue-staters to South Carolina (39 percent), Utah (34 percent) and Idaho (30 percent). The Southeast and the interior West have become some of the most popular new destinations for American movers. They tend to be less expensive places to live than the Northeast and much of the West Coast.

These changes aren’t happening simply because the national population has grown over the same period, either. In fact, the red-born population in blue states shrank, to 7.3 million from 8.4 million, between 2000 and 2012. Some of this decline stems from the fact that California has become a less popular destination for people from all over the country, in part because of high housing costs. {snip}

Of course, not all blue-state migrants are liberal. And people’s political views can change over time. But enough of the migrants have the views of their home states to have made a difference. It’s no accident that the places in once-red states where migrants have tended to settle–like the Virginia suburbs of Washington, the Research Triangle of North Carolina and the Denver metro area–are the places that have allowed Democrats to overcome huge deficits elsewhere in those states. Many of these migrants are Northeastern Democrats.

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  • MekongDelta69

    “Liberals are moving to conservative areas and taking their politics with them.”

    They’re like blacks and browns and bacteria and viruses. They spread their disease everywhere they go.

    • Manaphy

      Speaking of diseases, America may see a resurgence of Ebola because of its pathetically unsecured borders.

      • Periapsis

        We never had an Ebola outbreak until first monkeys, then infected people were deliberately brought here. I believe the purpose of doing that was to gather samples of the virus so it can be weaponized. Everyone here should understand that a virus can be designed to kill only people of a particular racial or ethnic group, while leaving others unharmed or at least still alive. Which will not work considering the miscegenation that is being relentlessly pushed over the mainstream media.

      • 313 48224

        Dems have to move to conservative areas to have a save clean community. They will VISIT low income Democrats…..like going to the zoo.

  • D.B. Cooper

    Most of you so-called conservatives think one dimensional. You direct all of your hate toward the blacks and illegal aliens, when the true threat is the New York-Californian white liberal democrat AND republican. Without the white liberal who ruined his state, what kind of threat are the minorities?

    • Manaphy

      1. We’re not “conservatives”, we are White Nationalists. Conservatism has long since failed us.

      2. I would be delighted if every Zulu residing in my state were deported and replaced by a white liberal.

      • Mack0

        Why? They would only make laws bringing all of the Zulus back.

        • DonReynolds

          If it ever gets to the point where the Zulus are deported, the Leftist Liberals will not be making any more laws.

          • Manaphy

            Let’s hope that day will be soon.

          • 1stworlder

            The best hope is the food stamp system going down before a replenishment time. When it went down for 8 hours in 16 states on 10-12-13 the chimpout videos went viral. They would attack the people that think they are equal first.

          • benvad

            I don’t understand what do you mean by this?

          • 1stworlder

            When the food stamp system went down for 8 hours that day there was massive chimp outs. Youtube censors couldn’t keep up with the reposted viral videos. If it went down at the beginning of the month the free stuff army would make Ferguson look like Pre-black London in comparison, in every area with significant amounts of non-Asian minorities. The people that would get hurt would be those that think blacks are equal.

          • benvad

            It’ll never end.

          • gregCall

            Hopefully they’ll go with them as a protest, we all know how much “trendy” leftists like meaningless protests.

        • AndrewInterrupted

          They would have to agree to a lobotomy.

      • D.B. Cooper

        The white liberal will be working overtime trying to GET more diversity into your state. He often succeeds, ruining his own neighborhood in the process.
        The white liberal is like cancer. He ruins, then he moves on once the enlightened area has been destroyed by diversity. He finds another white area, and repeats.

      • As a Coloradan, I would be delighted if every white Liberal in my state disappeared and was replaced by air pollution and ash.

        • DonReynolds

          Excellent trade, Mr. Scott.
          Here is how you do it…….burn them at the stake…..every one of them. Then you will have “air pollution and ash” instead.

          • We get temperature inversions during the winters that result in “no burn” days, so I think an electric arc furnace would be a fine alternative to wood or coal. That way, the only smoke and ash would be coming from the Democrats and Neo-Cons.

            Thermal depolymerization would be even better, but start-up costs for the program would be higher.

          • DonReynolds

            He He…..just don’t stop when you begin to run out of them.

        • El_Baga_Doucha_Libtard

          The Japanese are my favorite non-whites.

        • Epiminondas

          Which species did you marry?

          • A nice young lady I met in Japan.

          • Epiminondas

            Good move. Always marry a girl smarter than you.

          • Actually, I wanted one who was extremely level-headed. Brilliant women tend to be emotionally unbalanced.

          • disqus_4Jy24XjH8I

            race traitor

        • benvad

          Where do they go after Colorado, back to California?

          • Unfortunately, they come down here.

          • benvad

            Where is that by the way?

          • North Carolina and the wider South.

          • benvad

            I was listening to Stern show the other day and his Wack Packer by the name of “King of All Blacks”, indicated he was migrating South upon his retirement as a city sanitation worker.

            He mentioned most of the Bantus he knows were going to do as he is planning to do. Now my other question is, do you or have you observed this trend being true?

          • The south has more blacks than any other region by far, we would hardly notice a few more. I think NC over 20% black, but I’m too lazy to look it up.

        • You have your Colorado winters while here in the South its been said that we were finally conquered by air conditioning.

      • JohnEngelman

        White liberals do not mug people or rob people at gun point. Unfortunately, they often want violent street criminals to be let out of prison. White liberals have difficulty understanding the mentalities of individuals and races who are less evolved than they are.

        • ElGringo

          They might not rob and mug people themselves but they have no problem getting the sickening thugs in government to do it.

        • DonReynolds

          You know what it is, John……it is the utterly insane egalitarianism, that is the centerpiece of Liberalism.
          It is the touchstone for Liberals that makes race, class, religion, gender, sexual preference, immigration status, and national origin irrelevant political discussions.
          Of course, it does not perform magic for all distinctions…..the Liberals have enough reserve bias to hate “white privilege” and the middle class whites with a passion.

        • IBWHITE

          “White liberals do not mug people or rob people at gun point.”
          No they don’t. Instead they worship and excuse the people who do and then vilify anyone who speaks up about it.

    • DonReynolds

      Sounds too much like Helter Skelter, D.B.
      But you are right, the only real threat are the Leftist and Liberal whites from nuthouse states. They are traitors. I do not expect the vermin and cockroaches to be much of a problem. Our biggest problem are the Liberals.

  • JohnEngelman

    When white liberals move to states with large black populations they are likely to change their attitudes about blacks.

    • D.B. Cooper

      Some of them never learn. They blame whitey for the problems, move to an all white area, and complain about the lack of diversity in his new area, then vows to bring it into his new area.

      • They are elitists; they want to change their new neighborhoods because their new white neighbors are exactly the same sorts of people that the libtards had spent their entire lives despising.

    • DonReynolds

      The ones I know, John……like to think they ARE black. What a surprise they have waiting for them.

    • Long Live Dixie

      If that were true, then places like Maryland, northern Virginia, and Atlanta would not be bastions of liberalism.

      • Stan D Mute

        The DC suburbs are segregated by wealth which still does a good job sorting out the Africans. DC and Prince George’s – overwhelmingly African. Fairfax – mainly white and Asian. In Georgia, Atlanta is overwhelmingly African with a pocket of wealth in Buckhead. Whites live in the suburban ring cities Sandy Springs, Norcross, etc.

        • Long Live Dixie

          I should have said Fulton County. It is a liberal county because of whites importing non-Southern politics from elsewhere. Whites are roughly equal with blacks in the county.

      • corvinus

        I think they’re bastions of liberalism because they have so many blacks and other nonwhites there voting D. Plus a lot of Fedgov employees.

        • Long Live Dixie

          No, the whites of those areas are liberal. The blacks are not numerous enough in any Southern state to turn the state blue. In fact, our blackest state – Mississippi – is solid red.

          • DonReynolds

            You are correct.
            The percentage black in Mississippi (37%) is the highest in the country, but that is only 1 million blacks,
            the same as Tennessee (17%)……
            but Louisiana (32%) and Virginia (20%) have half again more.
            There are states that have about 3 million blacks……
            Georgia (30%), Texas (12%), New York (15%), and Florida (16%). There are states that have about 2 million blacks…..
            Illinois (15%), North Carolina (22%), and California (7%).
            Maryland (29%) has 1.7 million blacks…..a half million more than New Jersey (15%), Alabama (26%), and South Carolina (29%).
            Michigan (14%), Ohio (12%), and Pennsylvania (11%) each have about 1.4 million blacks.
            No other state even has a million blacks.
            Delaware (21%) is 8th in the nation, but only has 192k.
            Arkansas (16%) a former Confederate state only has 450k.
            Missouri (12%), where the riots have continued for two weeks now, only has 704k.

      • JohnEngelman

        I have never lived in Atlanta. I doubt most whites there are liberal on racial issues. In Maryland and Virginia it is fairly easy for an upper middle class white liberal to live and work with little exposure to blacks. The blacks such a person will know will be exceptional, or they will occupy subordinate positions without resentment.

        • Epiminondas

          Actually, the native white Southerners who remain inside the city limits of Atlanta are mostly liberal. And highly uninformed, in my opinion. I think of them as “liberal rednecks”.

    • Stan D Mute

      That’s a faulty assumption. South Florida being a case in point, radical leftists move down from the Northeast into one of the least white areas in the country. Look at West Palm Beach and it’s barbaric African population. Yet a crime map of Palm Beach County shows you there is zero overlap of the affluent leftists and the Africans. Palm Beach (the island) has no crime – none. And where there is some overlap (ie Boynton Beach), it’s not the affluent leftist whites, but more conservative types being victimized.

      Further South, Broward and Miami-Dade counties prove the theory. Miami Beach, Bal Harbour, Coral Gables, Pinecrest, Lauderdale (east of I-95), Sunny Isles/Aventura, etc) are populated by wealthy leftists while any mixing with the criminal Africans happens further west in Coral Springs, Margate, Etc. In Miami, the Cubans have done a good job of keeping the Africans bottled up in Little Haiti, Overtown, etc.

      The leftists would learn (or die resisting knowledge that would save them) if they couldn’t afford multi-million dollar homes in areas with 24hr gates and armed security on site. Wealth allows the leftists to maintain their fantasies regardless of where they live.

      • AndrewInterrupted

        “…Limousine Liberals…”

    • benvad

      Well when they do learn then they get ostracized from their friends and inner circle as a result.

  • Oldcorporal

    I think these liberal writers are reporting what they HOPE will happen — not what the facts actually tell them. The political atmosphere is different in Red states. There’s no guarantee that significant numbers of these people will continue to vote Democrat. When in Rome, do as the Romans do. And I think many of them will jump the fence.

    • DonReynolds

      Based on American political experience in the fifty states, as minorities become significant in number…..all the whites become Republicans. You can see this in the states where blacks are a larger percentage of the population. In Texas, for example, the whites are Republican and the Democrat party is mostly Mex and black (and some white radlibs from California and the Northeast).

      • Long Live Dixie

        I don’t think there is any evidence to suggest that a liberal area (e.g., Vermont) would become Republican if Vermont had a large increase in its non-white population. Instead, the red states are red because the people there have always been conservative and they (incorrectly) view the Republicans as a conservative party.

        • corvinus

          I don’t think there is any evidence to suggest that a liberal area (e.g., Vermont) would become Republican if Vermont had a large increase in its non-white population.

          No, actually I think there may be truth to that. Vermont still has a tiny nonwhite population. Minnesota, on the other hand, has had an exploding nonwhite population, plus a crime wave, and it has moved from deep blue to purple.

          • Long Live Dixie

            No, actually I think there may be truth to that.

            There would be zero blue states in the South if not for the Northerners importing liberalism and remaining liberal even after generations here.

        • DonReynolds

          I agree that the Republican party is hardly conservative. During my lifetime, the solid Democrat South shifted Republican. It was never because the Republicans were attractive (the party of Lincoln, are you kidding?).
          Southern Democrats bailed on the Democrat party because they were run out by the Liberals, the hard left turn of the Democrat party….(Kennedy, LBJ, Hubert Humphrey, George McGovern, Jimmy Carter)….and the growing influence in the Democrat party by ethnic minorities, labor unions, catholics, feminists, and gays.

          • Once the Democrat party decided it would pander to ethnic bloc voters by handing out tax-funded goodies, they alienated lots of fiscal conservatives who would otherwise have continued voting Democrat.

            On the other hand, many GOP career politicians have apparently decided to ignore fiscal conservatives as well, while pandering to religious fundamentalists. I don’t want to hear about Jesus and abortion from political candidates. I want to hear about fiscal responsibility.

            Take the city of Denver, for instance. They’ve got “gibsmedat” programs galore for the blacks and Mexicans, and highway overpasses crossing I-25 that have had so much concrete spall off the structures that bare rebar is visible. It’s a matter of time before a nice chunk of that concrete falls through someone’s front windshield at 60 mph and causes a fatal chain-reaction accident at highway speed. When that happens, Denver is going to get sued silly. The city government there doesn’t think that’s important; they’d rather pay illiterate blacks and Mexicans to stay home and produce more gang-members.

      • Eddie Lutz

        People don’t vote based on their environment, but on their needs. The party that kisses aging Boomer butt the most is the one that will be in power for the next couple of decades unless illegal immigration neutralizes the Boomer demographic. Non-citizens legally aren’t supposed to vote, but do anyway. That’s why we need voter ID laws.

        • DonReynolds

          I hope you are correct.
          My own view of the future is there will be no voting.
          Fortunately or unfortunately, the Federal government does not have the ability to avoid the trainwreck. The current government is unsustainable and has refused to follow the Constitution or their own laws and is openly corrupt. There are no elections or ballots that can restore faith in this government. The ultimate solution will not be political.

        • Usually Much Calmer

          I wish people actually voted on their needs.

          Most people are too thoughtless to even identify their needs on their own.

          People vote the way they shop and their minds are putty in the hands of admen.

          • “…their minds are putty in the hands of admen.”

            That’s a first-rate reason to quit watching TV. Television commercials have people buying stuff they don’t need. Doing volunteer work sorting donations at a thrift store like ARC or Goodwill is quite educational in this respect. People max out their credit cards to buy that stuff and then end up giving it away while it is still relatively new.

          • Usually Much Calmer

            I won tickets to a CAKE concert on the radio once. (I’ve seen them a bunch, excellent shows all.) I got to meet the band backstage and I had a really sweet conversation with frontman John McCrae who launched into this little lecture about EvPsych and the dopamine release you get when you make a purchase- its securing resources. Money is an abstraction, goods are so tangible, your animal brain thinks you’ve really scored.

      • ElGringo

        Unfortunately, becoming republicans isn’t going to be sufficient.

        • AndrewInterrupted

          I hear that a lot. The other alternative is to pray for a meteor. I do that, too.

  • Mack0

    I’m reminded of invasive species that devour the resources in one area and move on when there is nothing left to feed upon. By relocating away from the heart of their political capital they are essentially acknowledging their policies have failed. California is a prime example of liberal idealism made real.

    • Don’t we call those “locusts”?

      A new curse might run “May a plague of Democrats descend upon your land.”

      • DonReynolds

        Cockroaches…..ticks…..leeches…..

    • Stan D Mute

      Africans?

    • Periapsis

      These invaders are more like the Andromeda Strain, an alien life form that consumes everything and multiples and mutates at the same time. A good description of the Liberals, blacks and browns.

  • DonReynolds

    What? No mention of the California Liberals that have already over-run Colorado and now threaten Texas? After crapping in their own nest, now they want to move to Red States and the first thing they say when they arrive is……WE CAN MAKE IT JUST LIKE CALIFORNIA!

    • dd121

      My cousin lives in Idaho and says the liberal Californians are sweeping into his state.

      • bilderbuster

        When I was living out west a decade ago, new arrivals from CA were not popular at all.

        • dd121

          I’m pretty sure he’d agree.

        • Wing-nut.

          They still aren’t.

      • corvinus

        Yeah, it seems that California liberals like to move to nice places with lots of mountains and greenery — which is why they overran Colorado and Oregon — whereas California conservatives didn’t care about the scenery, so they fled to Arizona and Texas instead.

        • The lakes in east Texas are quite nice: excellent fishing. I took Greyhound from Ft. Worth to Colorado Springs once, and the scenery in west Texas was interesting: gently rolling hills with lots of big mesquite bushes. It had me thinking of Louis L’Amour and Larry McMurtry westerns: perfect ambush country.

          • corvinus

            True… but Texas’ reputation also helps keep out white liberals.

      • Wing-nut.

        Same in Montana.

      • AndrewInterrupted

        They are fleeing the mess they made in California, but they’re too arrogant, smug, and cowardly to admit it.

    • Californians don’t stay in Colorado very long; the average is two years. Evidently, they hate the winter weather even more than I do, probably because none of them knows how to drive on snow or ice worth a damn. They’re thus not really over-running Colorado, just passing through (rather like something large which has been swallowed by a python).

  • CarolinaGem

    Amongst Southerners, we refer to this as the “second invasion”.

    The coast of SC has turned into little Ohio (and New York, New Jersey, etc.)

    • You folks sent the first batch of carpetbaggers packing, did you not?

      • AndrewInterrupted

        There are many sympathetic northerners. I just met a young White couple who were escaping the greaserito (as you call it. I like the term.) invasion in Nashua, NH. They would join a southern secession entity in a heartbeat. Don’t count out the North when the meteor hits. This White Northerner will be sharing his 7.62 ammo with the White South.

    • Long Live Dixie

      Not just the coast of South Carolina. Nearly everywhere in Dixie is affected by these people.

      • bilderbuster

        They’re all over NC from Raleigh to the mountains to the coast.
        And then there’s the Mexicans too!

        • Wishsong

          Yep. I dont even like driving through Asheville.

          • bilderbuster

            My younger brother, who works in the Research Triangle tells me about a place there called Cary near Raleigh who’s population has grown 45% since 2000.
            I’m told they try to encourage the relocated newcomers to move there so as not to ruin Raleigh’s quality of life. I’m also told that the locals refer to Cary as the Containment Area for Relocated Yankees.

          • Wishsong

            Had a chance to move to the Research Triangle for a job, very glad I was warned beforehand.

    • ElGringo

      While i agree that ohio is in fact garbage, due to a majority of ohioans being garbage, it’s not nearly as bad as those other leftist hellholes you made mention of.

      • Alexandra1973

        I live in Ohio. Not so bad in my area, near the Amish.

        But then, I was born and raised in and around Detroit….

        • ElGringo

          I live in ohio as well. I’m from wayne county which also has it’s share of Amish.

          • AndrewInterrupted

            And the Cultural Marxist tumors at PBS/NPR relentless besmirch the Amish. The Amish embody the core European-American values that took civilization to the next level–an obvious target for the Marxists bent on destroying all European-American vestiges.

      • CarolinaGem

        I don’t know about all Ohioans, but the ones relocating down here are just awful. Obnoxious and mean spirited, they are progressive louts.

    • Douglas Quaid

      I am in the SC upstate and the general impression up here is one of disdain for the coastal dwellers. They are the reason why we keep getting Lindsay Graham.

      • CarolinaGem

        Down here on the coast, we blame the upstate for him. Stupid low information voters support him just because he has an “R” behind his name. No one I know can stand the likes of Lindsey Graham. He is a traitor and a neo-con, Juan McCain’s lapdog.

        But as you indicate, the liberals and carpetbaggers 2.0 apparently support him and now we are stuck with him.

    • Wishsong

      Lived in South Carolina for a few years, left due to black crime. I have to admit being very surprised to see all the Ohio plates.

  • TruthBeTold

    The move out because of some vague angst they can’t understand.

    They seek refuge in conservative areas but end up voting for the same policies that drove them to leave.

  • M.

    Okay, but the question remains: who’s filling that void the liberals are leaving behind when they move?

    One might respond: less liberals and more non-whites (mainly Latinos).

    But the question remains: now that there are less liberals in these states, are these non-whites mostly liberal or not? Because if they’re not, these states the liberals are emigrating from might end up turning red.

    • DonReynolds

      Not a chance…..the liberal leftists leave when there is so much free stuff that they cannot pay the taxes. The ones left behind continue the same insanity of income redistribution through taxes and welfare. Who is left to vote against it?

      • M.

        So the only thing that will turn those states red would be bankruptcy.

        • DonReynolds

          It has never worked like that. No state has ever gone bankrupt, even during the Great Depression. The last city that tried a fast one was the City of Mobile, Alabama. They swapped their city charter for a new one as the Port of Mobile, Alabama. The US Supreme Court said…..not so fast.
          But yes, there will be more Detroits. In my lifetime, Detroit was the richest city in America…..now look. Same with California.

          • No state has ever gone bankrupt, yet. The cumulative effect of a string of municipal bankruptcies could do the job. When, for instance will California reach the tipping point? As the taxpaying people and businesses relocate out of the state, the choice in Sacramento will be to either raise taxes, which will accelerate the exodus, or cut services. Cutting services of course will be impossible, because an increasing number of tax-consumers there will continue vote for politicians who promise them “free” stuff, a.k.a. “gibsmedat”, and vote against saner heads. Insolvent cities won’t even be able to float debt to solve their problems, because their very fiscal irresponsibility will drive away bond investors.

          • Periapsis

            Yes, Mobile is definitely a corrupt city run by old money and crooked pollitrixters and bunglecrats. That is why jobs are hard to come by there. If you do not have the right last name or skin color, it is very hard to survive as a white man.

    • 1stworlder

      They still have homeless people vote in their name, at all of their previous addresses.

    • corvinus

      Of course nonwhites are liberal. Don’t kid yourself. That’s how things work: nonwhite liberals immigrate from foreign countries to blue states, and white liberals move from blue to red states.

  • 1G25

    Stay the HELL out of Texas.

    • LHathaway

      At this point, You’ll be lucky to get out.

      • AndrewInterrupted

        I live in NH and have a neighbor who recently reached retirement age. He incessantly speaks of retiring in TX for tax reasons. I told him he should read a newspaper once in awhile. When the lights go out from an EMP event, those greaseritos will plunder those seniors of their wealth and their lives.

        • Going to Texas after one has stopped working makes little sense. The main advantage to Texas in that respect is that there is no state income tax, but if one is retired, that wouldn’t be an advantage.

          • AndrewInterrupted

            Agreed. I may have talked him out of it finally. The key is warm weather for him. That does cause problems. Florida, for example, has become a 3rd world hell-hole. I suggested parts of the Carolinas.

  • Libtards need to be made unwelcome in the south. Fly that confederate flag everywhere. Bumper sticker your car with insults to them. Don’t welcome them to the neighborhood.

    Or alternatively, make friends with them and try to convert them to common sense.

    • Long Live Dixie

      Forget about making friends with them and trying to convert them. There is no reason for them to change their ways when they are the stronger party. It’s best to work towards Southerners becoming the stronger party and the eventual removal of liberals (a.k.a. Yankees) from the South.

      • Ringo Lennon

        To the victor (Yankees) go the spoils.

        • Not sure about that. When manufacturers build new factories, these tend to be in southern “right to work states”.

        • AndrewInterrupted

          This Yankee is a Southern sympathizer, or maybe, empathizer.

      • AndrewInterrupted

        The mob rules. Why do you think Obama is getting in bed with the Latin locusts. The strangest of bedfellows.

  • IKUredux

    So, what else is new? You foul your nest, it’s easier to move to a new one. Eventually you run out of clean nests. Then what?

    • 1stworlder

      What group fouled nests over 200 times all over the globe.

      • Periapsis

        The Tribe of course, who was killed en masse in Ukraine and Russia on numerous occasions. In fact they have been expelled at least four times that I know of from Ukraine.

  • Evette Coutier

    Interesting that liberals want to move out of liberal states. Their double think is epic.

    • The extent of their doublethink is matched only by their narcissism and hypocrisy. One libtard I recall from the 1990s moved to a very rural location in Colorado, and then proceeded to whine and moan about the dust and animal smells from farming operations in the area, demanding that “something be done”.

      • Evette Coutier

        The number one trait I see in liberals across the board is emotional immaturity.

        • Kenner

          MCS and Evette: this is why we need real world connections for amreners. You’re both accomplished scientists, as well as race realists.
          I’d like to see Cherrie Greenbaum and Jane Johnson pen some comedy together, two very quick-witted ladies who stand out even among the many wisecrackers that post here.
          [Jane has been serious here of late; she was in great form at Taki’s recently]

          • Evette Coutier

            It would be nice if there was a social media site for folks like us so we could connect across the country and around the world. There is value in community.

        • Periapsis

          Trait number two is many are outright psychopaths.

  • italian guy

    Seems like they are looking for areas where White people are the majority or better yet where there aren’t non-whites around (or too many).

  • Long Live Dixie

    I’ll bring this article up next time I’m lectured by a white nationalist about the (mythical) white unity between North and South that is supposed to save our race.

    • Alexandra1973

      The South had every right to secede. Do it again and I may join you, after you turn the thermostat down. 🙂

      Michigan native living in Ohio here….

      • Ringo Lennon

        Hey , hey a copperhead! Wow! You would rather have a busted up country and slavery. Yeah.

      • Wishsong

        We have air conditioning now. 😉

        • AndrewInterrupted

          Living in the South isn’t much different that living in the North. In the North they huddle around woodstoves in the Winter, in the South they huddle around air conditioners in the Summer. The North has fewer bugs and creatures, though. Almost got stung by a brown scorpion in SC once.

  • Anglo

    How I despise these self-deluded hypocrites called “liberals.”

  • none of your business

    Call me a *itch, a crazy old lady, nazi, facist,marxist, KKK, racist call me anything, but do not call me a conservative. I am a radical White Nationalist. I loathe and detest, neo cons,israel, christians, jews, conservatives, Fox news, anti abortion, anti gay, family values, pro capitalist and all the rest of the idiots distracted by these ridiculous conservative causes.

    Manaphy D.B. Cooper • 3 hours ago
    1. We’re not “conservatives”, we are White Nationalists. Conservatism has long since failed us.

    • Long Live Dixie

      You admit detesting family values. Great PR strategy.

    • ElGringo

      I was with you up to a point.

    • Douglas Quaid

      I think you posted this exact message on another article.

      • AndrewInterrupted

        A troll perhaps? Lots of trolls lately.

    • Which family values do you detest? Boring things like financial responsibility, faithfulness within a marriage, self-reliance, and setting a good example for one’s kids?

  • Paul

    This can only happen because liberals are unable to maintain their mental disease while living in close proximity to diversity. Hence they must move to areas that are still majority white and attempt to wreck them.

  • “The cancer is metastacizing to healthy tissue”

    Look guys, I just turned that entire article into 7 words. Which happen to be more honest and accurate than the article itself!

  • WR_the_realist

    Unfortunately what that article says is true. Liberals support policies
    (like sanctuary cities and big, corrupt government) that make their
    states unlivable, then they move to more conservative states which they
    wreck by continuing to vote the same way.

    • Alexandra1973

      Just like their pets!

    • Liberals don’t associate the bloated welfare state with corruption, but once puts government in the business of handing out “free” goodies to selected groups of ethnic bloc-voters, corruption inevitably follows.

      One of President Oogabooga’s 2008 campaign promises was to reduce the influence of lobbyists in Washington DC. After being elected, he turned around and oversaw the largest expansion of government (ObamaCare) in recent US history. What does anyone think that will REALLY do to the professional lobbying industry?

  • antiquesunlight

    This angers me to no end. These dingbats come down here because we have a lot of opportunity and then vote to ruin everything. They can’t put two and two together.

    • I said recently in a Yahoo discussion about the apparent befuddlement on the part of Hamas as to why Israel has been bombing the heck out of Gaza and not the West Bank (it’s the rockets): “The inability to associate cause with effect is the mark of someone who is either mentally ill or extremely stupid.” This of course applies to other matters, like the liberal exodus from the states they have ruined.

      They simply do not associate their voting habits with what is happening to their home states.

  • DonReynolds

    I do not wonder in the least why your pappy votes Democrat.
    So you are incorrect.
    And you are also incorrect to assume I am a WN.
    I never have been.
    Mr. Scott and I were discussing a good solution to our fight for survival against the white LIBERALS. Yes, only one side will win in the end. Either they will destroy us or we will survive without them.
    Has it ever been any different in history?
    I would prefer separation, but we may not have that choice, when the time comes.
    But by all means, you and your pappy keep voting Democrat.

  • Texan1st

    So they leave the high taxes and sluggish economies of blue states, migrate to states with lower taxes and booming economies, then bring with them the political and social ideology that screwed up their home states and caused them to flee in the first place. Makes perfect sense. (sarcasm)

  • ATBOTL

    This article is a misdirection. Many of the people moving to states like GA and NC from up North are black. Many of these people are retirees or military families. Few NY or MA white liberals would want to move to the South. Most white people from the NE who move to the SE are working class to lower middle class, they are being squeezed out by high housing costs. People from the East Coast who can afford to stay usually do. The South is trending purple because of the higher birthrates among blacks and nonwhite immigration. Mississippi will be majority black in a few years because of higher black birthrates and the younger age of black mothers. MS has very little immigration or migration from other states.

    • antiquesunlight

      In Atlanta, there are plenty of white liberals from New York and Massachusetts. I personally know some. They are as liberal as anything and they all think they are so enlightened because they aren’t from the racist South. They’re a curse.

      • HE2

        Several members of my family of origin live in heavily conservative Christian rural Northern California, already [over]populated with mestizo, Sikh, and Japanese, Chinese, Hmong ethnicities. Luckily, these groups tend not to vote.
        Family now reports a massive influx of blacks being resettled from all over the country and the East S.F. Bay Area.
        The dynamic is blatantly transparent; it is the left’s Agenda 21 ethnic creation, a “we are all one” dysfunctional mess. And mess it is; once orderly, neat, attractive working class neighborhoods are disappearing in favor of trash littered Sec 8 high density housing units.

        • AndrewInterrupted

          Yes, Obama Bin Laden has been using our tax dollars to stink up formerly good neighborhoods for some time now. The HUD voucher system is designed to counter White flight. Born of some tribe think tank, I’m sure. The tribe can’t keep their greasy fingers off of good things.

    • Long Live Dixie

      Few NY or MA white liberals would want to move to the South.
      This is the most inaccurate statement of the entire discussion.

      • ATBOTL

        You are truly clueless.

        • Long Live Dixie

          All right, I guess all the Northeastern liberals in my area are a figment of my imagination. Thanks for clearing that up.

          • Mary

            A surprisingly large number here. My sons’ private school consists of roughly half Northeastern or Midwestern transplants (or their parents are.) And my in-laws live nearby; father-in-law from Boston and mother-in-law from NYC. Fortunately, they are not liberals. At least, not anymore!

          • AndrewInterrupted

            Ironically, I’m a native New Englander and have traveled the South for decades now, while doing field service. I agree with you, I like the South and almost moved there numerous times. My favorite place, Oconee County.

            More ironically, despite being a Yankee, I was/am treated well. Maybe because they consider me just a Yankee and not a damned Yankee. What’s the difference between a Yankee and a damned Yankee? A Yankee is just visiting. A damned Yankee is there to stay.

      • Wishsong

        Agreed. They love the safety of White areas and the low taxes. They abhor our culture.

    • Periapsis

      There’s a LOT of Mexicans and Asians in Mississippi, and the same is true in Alabama. I expect bloody warfare to start at some point between whites and Hispanic illegals in my area sooner than later. Although I was born in Boston, I have lived in the South most of my life, and I’ve come to dislike many northerners. Their attitude rubs me the wrong way.

      • ATBOTL

        No, there are only a few thousand. It seems like a lot to you because they only started coming around 2000 or so. The same thing happened where I live. We had almost no Mexican or Central Americans until around when Dubya took office.

        • Periapsis

          In my area, there’s a lot more than that, given that I work at a large company and at least one fourth of the workforce is Hispanic.

  • Mentious

    They move away from the hells that they created with their politics, finding the conservative areas somehow safer and more friendly. (Even social scientists have proven that ethnically cohesive places are safer and more friendly.)

    Then they proceed to destroy that by calling the locals backward and promoting the same liberal politics that destroyed their old realm.

    • AndrewInterrupted

      I heard that from long time residents of Texas. They say they are getting inundated by California liberals. They screwed up California and escape to Texas to screw up that state.

      • TXCriollo

        Ya the california liberals come to austin most other Californian s that come here are the conservative ones that are fed up with California.

  • JackKrak

    The Blue State immigrant creed – My home state is a toilet because it’s full of people like me, so I think I’ll move somewhere else and help to start the whole process all over again.

  • MekongDelta69

    You are the reason why I am anti-WN.

    Moi?! I’m flattered that a White hipster doesn’t like me because I don’t like leftists.

    • AndrewInterrupted

      She’s a troll with some “degree” from a diversity diploma mill. Daddy paid the money to get her an easy life. That somehow qualifies her to have a valid opinion, the Charmin on her wall.

  • What exactly is a swapple? Is that like being a Democrat, but even dumber?

  • IBWHITE

    Well then you hate me also. And the feeling is mutual. I just want to see people like yourself forced to live in the very sewers you create – Detroit, Atlanta, ESL etc.

  • Epiminondas

    The article doesn’t mention the fact that liberals in blue states have made such wrecks of their domiciles that they actually prefer moving to places they’ve made fun of all their lives. This tells you all you really need to know about these hypocrites. These people are mercenary.

  • There seems to be a misunderstanding here: we do not need your approval.

    • Anonymous

      The WNs keep talking about how they want a White American revolution. About how they want to either expell all the non-Whites, or carve a portion of the United States for themselves. But in order to do anything even remotely on those lines, one would need a large majority of Whites to approve of such things. A large majority of White Americans would never approve of such things.

      So yes, in order to kick out the Blacks and Hispanics, you would indeed need massive White voters’ approval.

      • disqus_4Jy24XjH8I

        Oh yes most whites want their own homeland, they’re just too cowardly to say so.

      • IBWHITE

        You miss the obvious – I guess that’s why your aligned with the left. Every Ferguson, Tawana Brawley, Duke Lacrosse and Trayvon Martin incident brings more people to our cause and less people to yours. And lets face it – your side is packed full of beta males where we have the alpha males. Facts and truth are on our side.

      • AndrewInterrupted

        It will come down to a Republican president (likely) suspending the constitution just as the Marxist invader, Obama Bin Laden has done.

  • gregCall

    Being from Florida I’ve got to see this in action for decades.
    It started in the 60s with retirees and continued from that point on especially in South Florida. South Florida in fact was the cancer that originally took the power from Native or traditional Floridians as the numbers of Northerners in South Florida overwhelmed our votes.

    • My mother’s parents retired to Florida, but then left as the state began to fill up with Cubans and Haitians.

      • gregCall

        The state of Florida really hasn’t filled up “with Haitians and Cubans”, Haitians are pretty localized to Dade and a part of Broward county.
        The problem in Florida is really the fact that too many bluestate retirees have skewed or electorate and the fact that Mexicans are on the verge of becoming a majority statewide (they already are in most small towns).
        Cubans are good people and white of European decent for the most part, Haitians are hated by everyone, whites, American blacks, Cubans, and even Mexicans.

        • Wishsong

          I have family in Ft. Lauderdale. They are multi-generational residents who are extremely successful small business owners. I hope that they move out of there when they retire. They are very aware, as we are. I hate visiting there, not only because of the oppressive weather, but also for the fact that I see more Hispanics than Whites everywhere I look. It might as well be a Central American city.

  • AndrewInterrupted

    When sent back from whence they came, they would exterminate themselves. We don’t need to, or want to. That’ the whole point of returning to a European-American condition. We are the nation-makers.

    Look at the 250 executions in Syria today. Muzzies killing Muzzies. That’s what they do, and they are free to do so–outside of North America–the place where western civilization was perfected.

  • brior

    Because YOU and your libtard friends created many of the problems this website is against. And who told you that your concerns are “valid” anyway,your Marxist professor?

  • scutum

    But you will notice that as the numbers of liberals increase in these states they begin to have the same problems as the states the liberals ran away from. Yet it never seems to dawn on them that it is their policies that eventually make these areas unlivable. There is an upside to having a poor state economy, It does not act as a magnet for liberals and their fellow travelers. Just look at what is happening to Colorado. I have a buddy whose bother moved to Colorado from Utah and he tells me his brother is constantly complaining about all the refugees from California. And my buddy is not the only one he complains to about it, evidently he speaks right up when he is out shopping, or in a restaurant or bar, about his opinion of Californians and liberals in general.

    • Wishsong

      Californians are the worst. The absolute worst. My apologies to my brothers and sisters from California who read this. You know the complaints aren’s about you.

  • ricpic

    You’re not at all peaceful. You constantly make war on all those who disagree with you by labeling them haters and doing your damnedest to criminalize their right to free association.

  • benvad

    What’s a SWPL? stuff white people like?!

    Decode your acronym, please.

  • Of course ultimately it will be racial demographics that turns the nation blue, liberals being one and the same problem, since White liberals will be elected by non-Whites, until they are no longer useful and are demographically and criminally erased along with other Whites.

  • benvad

    They’ll never learn.

  • Djinn42

    “The migration helped President Obama win Colorado, Florida and Virginia in both 2008 and 2012.”

    ……………………………..

    I still hold onto a deep belief that a rigged election played a huge role in these outcomes but as for the article it isn’t hard to imagine that democrats planned this out decades ago through the power of media and entertainment easily made these places look like the next new trendy place to be, Elton John changed Atlanta and in the early 90’s an openly gay novelist named John Berendt wrote the book “Midnight In The Garden Of Good And Evil” about a murder between a rich gay antiques dealer and his secret lover including an array of socialites with weird tendencies.
    The book was insanely successful, translated into every language imaginable, and completely changed my small town of Savannah, GA. almost overnight. The film came next starring John Cusack as the novelist (who strangely wasn’t gay in the film) and suddenly everyone that read the book had to visit the area where it all took place, most of them never left.
    At the time the book was first released we of course had a quiet gay community but afterwards, well just use your imagination. Thank goodness the town has remained mostly conservative but just that easily the whole vibe of Savannah was changed and gone for good, along with new residents following Hurricane Katrina it’s likely we will eventually go blue one day.
    Democrats know how easy it can be, just keep the people watching TV and tell them where to go and who to be when they get there.

    • AndrewInterrupted

      I’ve been saying that here, too. The missing 3 or 4 million Romney votes were highly suspicious. The new widely varied and unstandardized voting systems actually make voter fraud easier. Rigged electronic voting machines is how Hugo Chavez took power in Venezuela.

  • Ringo Lennon

    Hehehe!

  • Periapsis

    Guess what, WN is getting stronger by the minute, and the vast majority are people like your neighbors and co-workers. And we are going to squash whites who aid and abet our enemies.

  • AndrewInterrupted

    No, Europe was the rough draft. America was the final copy–now shredded.

  • disqus_4Jy24XjH8I

    It’s less valid cuz we conservatives don’t raid other people’s pockets to pay for things we didn’t vote for.
    You rob people and you have no right to do that. WE don’t do that.
    You should be ashamed of yourselves.

  • disqus_4Jy24XjH8I

    You are some of the most violent people on the planet– you get violent with people who march to express their opinion of illegal immigration- and the violence Mexicans do to us.
    There are videos of your ‘antifa’ groups taking baseball bats to people’s heads in restaurants.
    You allow violent illegals into this country.
    You SWPLs are the most violent people on the planet.

  • AndrewInterrupted

    It was a brief final draft. Maybe somewhere between 1760 and 1960, but a the best example to date. Now the LibTurds and race replace-ment people have destroyed it.

    What has happened to merry old London is an absolute travesty. The Islamic hordes are rapidly devouring the birthplace of western civilization.

    Obama and Holder, and the like, couldn’t be happier. The U.S. has been under occupation for some time now. CRA 1964 & Hart-Celler 1965 were the equivalent to poison darts into Mother America’s heart..

  • AndrewInterrupted

    Oh, those Vermonters have wicked levels of White guilt. Candy from babies.

  • Wishsong

    I hate stories like this, because they lend credence to the creeping fear I feel every time I see a Florida or northern license plate cruising the streets of my beloved, very White area.

    I grew up in Southern Oregon. In the 80’s and 90’s, it was still a vastly White part of the country. Of course, the environmentalists and Bill Clinton wreaked havoc on the timber industry in the 90’s and the fruit companies love to hire Hispanics to pick fruit at 1/5th an acceptable wage.

    The last time I went to visit, I saw more blacks in one trip to Wal-Mart than the entirety of my life growing up there (I left for college, so 18 years). They are storming in from California to take advantage of the extremely liberal social services that the state provides. White liberals have been moving into the state in droves to escape tyrannical taxation and provide a safe place for their kids to grow up. Of course, they will continue to vote Democrat. Oh, and don’t forget the local schools who search far and wide for vibrant diversity to enrich their feetsball teams.

  • AndrewInterrupted

    Then whose blood would you suck?

  • IBWHITE

    “Alpha males? You wanna know what a nation full of alpha males would look like? Check out Zimbabwe.”
    Oh yes! Where they wear life jackets in gun fights and defecate in the middle of the street. They also believe you can cure AIDS by raping babies. Keep making astute observations like this and you’ll have everybody on your side.

  • Dieter

    It’s like what has been said about Obama–the danger was not Obama himself but rather the fact that an electorate would actually vote for such an individual. He wouldn’t have made it to the Oval Office without the help of White morons and traitors. The fact is, millions of Whites in this country still have no idea what negritude is. I don’t actually think the White race is going to exit the stage of history, but there really is no hope for millions of Whites–they’re either going to destroy themselves via miscegenation or become the victims of the beneficiaries of their good will.

    There was a case in Sweden where a social worker was raped by about 12 Afghan refugees–afterwards, she said it would be racism to expel them. Well, so be it. Self-preservation is the first law of survival in nature.