‘We Are Prisoners Here’, Say Migrants at Israel’s Desert Detention Camp

Robert Tait, Telegraph (London), April 4, 2014

The men behind the forbidding barbed-wire topped fence had no doubts about their status.

“This is a jail. We are prisoners here,” said Tumizgie Okebamrime, standing with a group of fellow African refugees, all with arms raised and interlocked in symbolic handcuff gestures.

He was speaking from inside the grounds of Holot, a detention centre for illegal migrants in Israel’s Negev desert which the country’s authorities describe as “open”.

But Mr Okerbamrime, an asylum-seeker from Eritrea, described the isolated encampment in different terms. “Inside we have police, security guards and immigration,” he said. “I came to Israel because I thought it was a democratic country. I would never have come here if I had known it was like this. ”

Yards away, around 1,000 protesters were staging a demonstration, holding placards and chanting slogans in English and Hebrew, including: “Israel, Feel ashamed! Remember your history! You were refugees too.”

Holot–a wilderness of prefabricated huts and fenced-in compounds close to the Egyptian frontier–has become the focal point of Israel’s treatment of roughly 50,000 African refugees, whom the government considers to be illegal economic migrants.

Benjamin Netanyahu, the Israeli prime minister, sees the refugees–whom he calls “infiltrators”–as a threat to Israel’s character as a Jewish democratic state. Ignoring criticism from the UN High Commission for Refugees, his government has refused to consider all but a handful of asylum requests–even though most have escaped war-torn regions and authoritarian dictatorships.

The refugees, mainly from Eritrea and Sudan and including Christians as well as Muslims, began migrating into Israel from Egypt in 2006 before the Israeli authorities completed a long border fence nearly two years ago to stem the tide.

Now they say Israel is using the threat of Holot, together with cash inducements of £2,100, to pressure them into “voluntarily” returning home–where most fear their lives would be in danger–or leaving for a third country.

The centre was opened in December–supposedly as a compromise–after the Israeli high court struck down a law allowing illegal immigrants to be jailed without trial for three years.

Instead, the government added an amendment that reduced jail terms to one year but enabled migrants to be housed indefinitely in an”open” facility.

The high court began fresh hearings this week after a coalition of Israeli human rights groups brought a petition challenging the new policy’s legality, arguing that is is even more draconian than the original law.

Those in Holot–whose numbers have climbed in recent weeks to 1,500 men, housed 10 to a room–say conditions are far from open and in many ways worse than prison.

While they are supposedly free to leave, stringent rules requiring them to register three times a day, together with the centre’s remote location, render that impractical. Failing to register twice is considered a criminal offence, likely to result in a jail term.

“It’s called open but it doesn’t feel open,” said Angusam Hadish, 28, a former political prisoner in Eritrea who spent nearly two years in the nearby Saharonim prison after being arrested on entering Israel from Egypt. “In Saharonim you knew it was closed and had no hope of getting out. Here they say it’s open but when you go from place to place, there’s one guard after another telling you to go back.”

“There are no basic facilities like food and clothing. The worst thing is the lack of health care. If someone becomes sick, they just give them a yellow medicine. There is absolutely nothing to do.”

Worse still, perhaps, is the isolation. Located in open scrub land next to a foul-smelling chicken breeding plant, Holot feels far from civilisation. The stillness of the surroundings is broken only by the frequent over-flights of Hercules planes and Apache helicopters from nearby military bases.

Beersheba, the nearest town, is 60 miles away. Banned from working and with just £82 “pocket money” a month to live on, few can spare the bus fare to go. Those who can fear not being back before the centre’s 10.30pm closing time. Most spend the day sleeping, talking or taking occasional walks outside.

Meanwhile, buses arrive daily from Tel Aviv and elsewhere carrying refugees who have been summonsed to report to Holot after their visas expired.

With plans to extend its capacity to 9,000, the government boasts that its tactics are working, with the number of departing refugees rising steeply . Gidon Saar, the Israeli interior minister, last week said nearly 4,000 asylum seekers had left Israel since the start of the year, compared to just 63 in November, the month before Holot opened.

Dozens have agreed to go to Uganda, according to Israeli media reports, amid conflicting accounts about whether the two countries have reached a formal repatriation deal. Some have also been sent to Rwanda, Haaretz reported on Friday.

Sitting on a bench at the gates of Holot , Emmanual Abraha, whose 16-month-old son lives with his estranged wife in the Israeli town of Netanya, said the government’s policy left him with nowhere to turn. “I have no future in Israel,” admitted Mr Araba, 35, who fled to Eritrea to escape indefinite army conscription. “I cannot return to Eritrea unless there is democracy there. If I go to Uganda, I leave my son without a father. I can see myself being stuck here for years.”

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  • sbuffalonative

    WE can’t do this. If we were to try this, the ACLU would file complaints of abuse. We have to treat these people so humanely that they are better off and more comfortable staying in our prisons than returning home.

  • Roninf9

    Can you imagine the howling from the duel-Israeli citizens in this country if the Feds treated illegals the same way here?

    • Pro_Whitey

      That is pretty much my main pet peeve these days, the likes of Sheldon Adelson supporting the border control policies of Israel while promoting open borders for the U.S. I don’t fault the Israelis. They can observe reality all too well, and know they can and will be overwhelmed if they don’t retain control. I just demand to assert the same prerogative for the U.S., and I’m a racist.

      • So be a racist and be it proudly. The only real weapon our enemies can use against us is our own fear of being shamed. But what would happen if their weapon suddenly blunted in their hands? What if the thought of being called “racist” by society no longer caused your heart to race and your mouth to go dry?

        Embrace your love of the truth and set yourself free. We can be as hardline as the Israelis, if only we shed our fear of being held in low esteem by the very people who hate us and want us to go extinct as a race.

      • OHDeutscheKlezmerRebel

        I am proud to be a racial realist. White Americans need to speak with pride of our heritage, and quit this nonsense of putting the feeling of Negroids and other non-Whites first.

    • John Smith

      Now wait a minute.

      I have no doubt that the tribe that runs our controlled media will be consulting with the SPLC and ADL to first gather all the facts…

      …before launching an all out national level assault to condemn Israel for their hypocritical stance on immigration and so called “multiculturalism”.

      I am sure all the groups from the same tribe that recently have been pushing for immigration reform in the US will do the same for Israel.

      Boy, I’ll bet little girl skirt chaser Morris Dees and ole Uncle Abe are preparing speeches of condemnation for Israel’s policies too.

      • OHDeutscheKlezmerRebel

        Of course they are. If Netanyahu disregards their attempts to make him feel guilty for not enabling the dispossession of his people, he is doing what all Whites need to do, both Jewish and Gentile. We need to refuse to allow ourselves to be dispossessed. White Libtards are not all Jewish. Plenty are Irish descent, especially, but also every White nationality out there. What all White Libtards share is a pathological self loathing.

  • Urbane Neanderthal

    Did they mention the time a few years ago the Israeli government gave a bunch of African Jewish refugees birth control shots without informing them?

    Strange how the chosen people here have a completely different attitude on US immigration than the chosen people in Israel have for their own country.

    • RisingReich

      Hypocrisy is the choseites’ claim to fame.

      • IstvanIN

        It actually isn’t hypocrisy, they want Israel and the Jewish people to survive. A fundamental part of that survival strategy is destroying the European people world-wide while defending Israel.

        • OHDeutscheKlezmerRebel

          Destroying the European people world wide will indirectly lead to the demise of the Jewish people and their culture as well. Intelligent Jews such as Rabbi Mayer Schiller and Robert Weissberg know this, and this is why they are pro-White Racial Realists. The Jewish people are a White ethno-religious group who would no more survive a world where Whites are a minority than groups such as the Amish would. Negroes and Mestizoes would torture and kill off the inhabitants of a Jewish enclave far faster than most Arabic Muslims. The White European culture is the only culture that will allow the Jewish culture to survive.

          • IstvanIN

            I agree but it seems the majority of wealthy, influential Jews disagree. Maybe they are better off in Brazil. Venezuela or South Africa?

          • HamletsGhost

            Jews are always in the proverbial position of a man sitting up on a tree branch, diligently sawing of the limb that supports him. They seem hard-wired for such auto-destructive behavior.

    • BonV.Vant

      Sounds like a good idea to me. I have no problem with that.

    • Africans like to breed until they’re the majority – that’s in every country they set their foot in.

    • OHDeutscheKlezmerRebel

      Robert Weissberg doesn’t want America invaded by non-Whites, neither does Rabbi Mayer Schiller, who knows that communities like Kiryas Joel and Monsey will only survive in White America, and do not stand to gain a thing by unchecked immigration of Mestizoes into our country, and Negroes moving into every White community in our land. Traditional Jewish enclaves like Kiryas Joel and Monsey stand to suffer as much, if not more, than White rural America by invasions of Negro and Mestizo hordes, and object to this just as much. Jewish libtards are non-practicing Jews who do not give a rat’s a*s about preserving traditional Jewish culture, just like Gentile Libtards do not care about preserving traditional European culture. White Libtards are self loathing creatures.

      • Urbane Neanderthal

        Jews in the US who support democrat policies are upwards of 75%
        White gentile support for democrats hovers around the upper 30’s.

        I have no racial, religious, or ethnic problem with Jews, I hate all communists equally.

  • Puggg

    “It’s a jail. We are prisoners here.”

    That’s the point, silly.

  • borogirl54

    Israel has the right to determine who to let in their country and who not to let in. By now, these so called “refugees” should realize that they are not wanted and should take Israel’s offer and leave the country.

    • So CAL Snowman

      Israel has no right to exist and is the creation of United Nations bureaucrats that simply carved up a large swath of Palestine and gave it to invading jews. Israel is a gangster, terrorist organization, operating under the guise of a sovereign nation.

      • George Clark

        That’s funny as hell. Will you be cheerleading the United Nations when they carve up a big hunk of California and give it to invading Mexicans? Mexico is a gangster, terrorist organization, operating under the guise of a sovereign nation.

        • So CAL Snowman

          What? Clearly I am against the United Nations. The histories of Mexico and Israel are dramatically different. I’m not sure what you are trying to imply here.

          • George Clark

            Israel was bought with cash by Jews. From Muslims. The jews bought the land, legally.

          • OHDeutscheKlezmerRebel

            Exactly!! Imagine if the Mestizos tried to legally purchase a slice of land from the United States, or if American Negroes approached our Government about legal purchase of a piece of land in which to build an enclave!! Of course nobody can picture this, because we know that Mestizos and Negroes do not possess this level of couth and decency. These are groups that move into a place, and think nothing of taking over and creating mayhem. Making plans to build an enclave, and negotiating peacefully with a Government to purchase this enclave is the kind of thing White people do. We White Racial Realists need to be studying the venerable history of Der Judenstaat as we plan a White homeland here in America. Peaceful Secession from the multicult monster, peaceful if possible so that we can have some semblance of normal commerce, trade, and relations.

          • George Clark

            You are a genocidal pig. Your argument is specious, at best. If we follow your logic, the United States should not exist, since we bought the Western Territories from Napoleon. If the state of Israel is not legitimate–since it was purchased by Jews and their protectors–from Arabs, then why would the Western Territories of the United States be legitimate, either? Please show me a map of this so called “Palestine” that existed when the United Nations “gave” it to the Jews, nimrod. And please give me a report of all the so-called “Palestinians” who lived in “Palestine” at that date. And a census report of how many “Palestinians” the Jews kicked out. Do tell, Snowman.

        • IstvanIN

          I would be OK with that, Southern California is lost.

        • Romulus

          California, as of 2 weeks ago became majority messican.

        • OHDeutscheKlezmerRebel

          A ridiculous comparison. The Jewish people have made the desert bloom, have created a safe a prosperous society with the exception of the border security issues they deal with due to the Islamic extremists who hate them. No Mestizo enclave would ever operate in this fashion. Violence and drug use rule in the Mestizo countries, and none of this results from groups on their borders making trouble for them.

          • Truth Teller

            The society was already prosperous for the wealthy families of the Ottoman era. These families had it worse once the Ottoman era ended. If the other families had nothing, it was because they were dumber than the elite of the Ottoman times.

      • Zimriel

        *All* nations are gangster terrorist organisations. That’s pretty much the definition of “nation”. Google up “stationary bandit” or just reread your Hobbes.

        I am more than happy to support a Jewish ethnostate if they will support white ethnostates but, failing that, Israel at least annoys Muslims (and African invaders) and that much will do for me.

      • I must unfortunately disagree with you. If Arab nations had the right to rid themselves of honest Jewish families in 1948, Israel has the right to exist. Even if you don’t like Jews, surely you would want them in their ancestral homeland, rather than here. The governments of Egypt and Jordan agree Israel has the right to exist.

        • jeffaral

          Saudi Arabia as well agrees that Israel has a right to exist. So what??

  • Ed

    Israel should just dump them in the desert and call it a day.

    • BonV.Vant

      A liberal will never take the obvious solution.

    • OHDeutscheKlezmerRebel

      Indeed. This is exactly what the Arabic Moroccans do with the Negroids.

  • RisingReich

    If you notice the stateside Jew’s policy is exactly the opposite HERE, you’re NAZI and want to kill six million Jews.

    • Michael Mason

      Really? Have you pointed this out to your friends and family and they have called you an nazi?

      • RisingReich

        Yup. To some people, even thinking about Jews as a group while German is straight up NAZI. No, I’m not kidding.

        • I have encountered this reaction too. A (Gentile) friend ended our friendship of many years because I casually mentioned “influential Jews” in a conversation about the mainstream media coverage of the Zimmerman trial. He said, “What do you mean by ‘influential Jews’?” I said, “You know, Jewish people with money and influence.” He responded, “I still don’t know what you mean.” So I named a few off the top of my head, famous media moguls and politicians and such. He promptly ended the conversation and hasn’t spoken to me since.

          The terror of being labeled as hateful and evil for simply noticing obvious patterns is so ingrained in some people that they will do just about anything to avoid it. It would be funny if it weren’t so sad.

          • Sometimes we have to trade in our brainwashed friends for enlightened ones. There’s only so much propaganda we can stomach in any given day. Onward and upward.

          • OHDeutscheKlezmerRebel

            Exactly!! Folks who insist on wandering around in Libtard fantasy land, and insist on self hating ideologies are a waste of our time. Our time is better spent with folks that at least follow our reasoning.

          • The Final Solution

            I’ve also noticed that my friends who are the most successful are the least receptive to any talk about race or the destruction of America. As long as they have it so good they couldn’t care less about this country’s problems. They don’t believe white people have any problems to complain about.

          • OHDeutscheKlezmerRebel

            Very true. They naively think that the problems out there will never involve them.

          • OHDeutscheKlezmerRebel

            This person is deluded. A realist sees the truth, and admits that there is indeed a contingent of Ki*ey Jews who are creating problems in the political arena and the media, but also realizes that this is not a “Jewish Plot”, and knows that most Jewish people abhor this kind of behavior.

          • saxonsun

            Come now. There are also many influential Christians. There is no worldwide Jewish conspiracy, just jealous gentiles who made this crap up.

          • Your response is a straw man and I won’t bother dismantling it. Never did I say there is a “worldwide Jewish conspiracy” but thank you for proving my point.

          • Truth Teller

            If you’re angry at someone else for being rich, the solution is to become wealthy yourself and do whatever it takes to get to the top.
            Become richer than the people you don’t want to be rich.

          • I’m not angry at anyone for being rich. Where did you come up with that?

          • Truth Teller

            I’m saying that if you think a group has too much money, you try to make more money than they do. One up people if you wish.

          • HamletsGhost

            So instead of being against the Mafia, we should emulate their methods to acquire wealth and power like theirs?

        • OHDeutscheKlezmerRebel

          In the good old days, folks used to say “there are Jews, and there are Ki*es”. A lot of folks who said this were either Jewish, or had some Jewish ancestry. That was a very fair and realistic statement, because it is the truth. There has always been a contingent of Jews who are into shady business dealings and political shenanigans. Most Jewish people are not like this, but, this contingent has given Jewish people a bad name.

          • saxonsun

            Every ethnic group has the good and the bad. So what?

          • So noticing the bad in one ethnic group above all others is career-destroying and results in total social ostracism. Why is that, do you think?

  • Anon

    Funny thing is, none of this matters. During Israeli’s disgusting and illegal land grabs and wars of aggression, they felt free to use massive amounts of depleted radioactive waste as bullets. Most deployed to fire such weapons are all dying horribly of cancer. But the background radiation of the not so depleted round has risen the entire background radiation of Israeli and surrounding areas. Any amount of exposure severely reduced fertility. A boy born today will only have half the children his father had. His children, half again.
    It’s a death sentence for any population that stays there.

    • BonV.Vant

      what a load of BS

  • The Final Solution

    “Most spend the day sleeping, talking or taking occasional walks outside” – sounds exactly how blacks PREFER to spend their time. Only thing missing are the occasional rapes, cannibalism, warfare, decapitations, and necklacing, which they obviously haven’t gotten around to yet.

    • MBlanc46

      Probably no weed or forty ouncers supplied, either.

      • Rhialto

        That would be a grave Human Right violation.

    • benvad

      Ha ha.

  • BonV.Vant

    Jews are of a stock that is genetically overwhelmingly liberal. They create problems like this all the time because they can not bring themselves to do what would solve the problem. In this case that would be to forcibly expel , deport the infiltrators. No, they have to fiddle with terms of imprisonment and create camps that become lighting rods for criticism. Israel will be destroyed by the inborn insanity known as liberalism that is characteristic of jews.

    • Pelagian

      You dont get it. This camp is more “conservative” than any refugee camp in the world.

    • The Bolsheviks had no such reservations when starving and murdering millions of Ukrainians. No, it’s simpler than that. Their tribalism is ruthless and they don’t seem to experience shame no matter how hypocritical their actions. This is probably because they do not see outsiders as human beings. To them, we are just host animals, mere chattel to be vampirized and discarded.

      • So CAL Snowman

        I think they are biologically driven to destroy their hosts.

      • BonV.Vant

        Their actions here are not ruthless. There is a large percentage of the Israeli population that insanely thinks that these infiltrators should be let out of these camps, and they also think the wall that keeps the suicide bombers out should be taken down as well. There are also Israelis that are helping to organize the blockade running ships in Gaza. No, the jews are crazy like women, they are contradictory. They want two opposite things at the same time, they believe in two opposite beliefs at the same time.

        • Truth Teller

          I am anti Israel and anti Palestine.
          I could care less when Israelis get attacked and could care less when the Gazans starve (these are actually Egyptians, Palestinian is a misnomer). I am also an Assad supporter. What does that make me?

          • benvad

            Sane

      • Zaporizhian Sich

        Because of the Jewish Bolsheviks, Ukrainians are nearly as ruthless. That was why Ukrainians who were nationalists or pro-German gunned down entire Jewish families in front of the Nazis during WW-II. That was why Ukrainians killed each other during the war, because there was a merciless civil war between Nationalist, pro-Soviet and pro-German guerillas. Indeed their tribalism is ruthless, the Talmud teaches that murder, rape, robbery, anything that harms or defrauds a non-Jews is moral and permissible. Levrenty Beria, who was a Jew, kidnapped, raped and often murdered scores of Russian women, some of whose remains were found buried under his former house. He was a genuine Hannibal Lecter.

    • benvad

      That’s probably the term for jewish aids, and we’re not immune to it.

  • MBlanc46

    It sounds as if this is just the sort of a place the miscreants belong.

  • WR_the_realist

    Nearly all of our congressmen support Israel. They attend the annual AIPAC meetings and swear their undying fealty to a foreign country. Most of us can only wish they’d represent the interests of their own states as well as they represent the interests of Israel. Yet none of them are willing to enforce our immigration laws they way Israel does, and would say it is racist to do so — except when Israel does it.

  • Zaporizhian Sich

    Break the laws of a nation not your own, risk becoming a prisoner. What part of that don’t they understand?

  • Einsatzgrenadier

    Liberal Jews are such hypocrites. They promote open borders for the US and other western countries, but closed borders and strict immigration controls for Israel. Why does Israel have a right to retain its national and ethnic identity, but western countries must be denied this right? Sounds like the treason lobby is interested in promoting equality by turning every western, white majority country into a developing, 3rd world nation.

    • ShermanTMcCoy

      Do they really? I get the impression many liberal Jews actually hate Israel. And perhaps vice versa.

      Hypocrisy is not the lesson I took away from this story, but that the Israelis have balls I wish we in the West had. This, as another 40 black “asylum-seekers” are put up in a monastery guest house here in Germany.

      • OHDeutscheKlezmerRebel

        This is my impression as well. Libtarded Jews do not listen to Klezmer music, or enjoy savoring Halva or Kugel after a nice dinner. They no more do these things than Irish American Libtards listen to Irish fiddle music. Libtarded Jews are self-hating like other Libtards, and would rather listen to some Negroid rapping about how much he hates Whites and blaming us for the behaviors of his fellow Negroids. Libtarded Jews probably think they are racist if they are proud of their heritage in any way.

        • ShermanTMcCoy

          And the problem is that 75% of the Jews in America self identify as liberal Democrats. Around 24% of them are pro-war Neo-cons, and MAYBE 1% consider themselves to be white Americans first.

        • curri

          There are surely at least a few anti-Israel Jews out there, but they’re politically invisible, so they might as well not exist. Every Jewish Congressperson is an ardent Zionist. They’re all also strongly pro-immigration when it comes to the US.

          For further info see the video, ”

          Leftist Gatekeepers for the Israeli lobby,”
          a speech by Jeff Blankfort.

          • benvad

            What do you think they’re invisible? They’re there aka “Peace Now” movement. Vannunu, the guy who sold israeli nuclear. Since they became a Nation, leftist will try and destroy that to.

      • curri

        Then there must be evidence of a lot of support for the Palestinians in Hollywood.

      • benvad

        Cut off their noses to spite their faces.

    • HamletsGhost

      It’s not exactly hypocrisy. No more than someone who points a gun at you is hypocritical because only one side of the gun is dangerous and the other side is safe to be on.
      Jew are simply pointing the weapon of open borders at everyone but themselves. Perfectly reasonable from their point of view.

  • OHDeutscheKlezmerRebel

    Israel has the right idea. Netanyahu hit the nail squarely on the head when he said that these Negroid interlopers threaten Israel’s culture, but he didn’t say enough. He should address the racial issue here, that Negroids do not belong in Caucasian lands. The only culture Negroids will create and maintain is what one sees in Sub-Saharan Africa. He needs to ask Israelis if they would like to see their cities suffer the same fate as once great American cities such as Detroit and Philadelphia. He should cite stats about these cities, and compare such stats to those of Israel’s cities. He should speak with pride of the Jewish culture of his land, and address the necessity of racial purity in maintaining this culture.

    • BonV.Vant

      Jews can not touch the race issue. That would justify the Nordics not wanting the semitics in their lands.

  • jeffaral

    Some Jews don’t understand that their promised land is not Israel, but Amerika. Therefore Israelis should leave Israel and migrate to Amerika where they can help to consolidate the already overwhelming power of the Jewish community. They will be welcome with open arms by the braindead Americans.

  • thatcher76

    locating the camp next to a chicken-plant. Brilliant. Why didn’t I think of that? We should do that. We have detention facilities for illegals too. They can leave any time they want (to go back home that is) but they don’t. They fight their deportation. We should place these detention facilities next to livestock plants like the Israelis do to persuade them. I would feel sorry for the guards though.

  • Truth Teller

    I am anti Israel and anti Palestine. The fact is both of them got there in the late 1800s and later on average. The land was sparsely populated back in the 1850s and all of a sudden the population rises like that? They obviously both came from elsewhere.

    People may say the land was nothing but it was a good time for people whose families were part of the rich during the Ottoman times. If the average person had nothing, it was because they were dumber than the wealthy families of the Ottoman era.

    • benvad

      Give it all back to the Turks.

  • Transpower

    Talk show host Michael Savage is for “borders, language, and culture”–and he’s Jewish. The Jewish community was Republican from 1865 to about 1940, when Jews from Eastern European socialist countries started voting Democratic. Recent immigrants from Russia, however, are Republican. So, I think that perhaps the tide is turning and a majority of Jewish Americans will, once again, support “borders, language, and culture.”

    • HamletsGhost

      Jews adjust their positions depending on how it affects Jewish interests. The problem is that Jewish interests almost always are against non-Jewish interests.

      • Zaporizhian Sich

        They might start doing an about face when they realize that to the brown, black, yellow and Muslim hordes Jews and whites are one and the same. Indeed, they will do that only to save their own skins, while coming up with a new way to exterminate us.

    • benvad

      Only in israel.

  • I find it interesting that these criminal invaders didn’t stay in any of the lovely countries they must have passed through on their way to Israel. International refugee law is not a travel agency, and requires that a refugee stay in the FIRST other country he or she reaches.

    • The Verdict of History

      Speaking of Israel, where on earth could John Engelman be?

      I heard a rumor that he made Aliyah, but it didn’t seem credible.

  • Paleoconn

    I wonder what Sheldon Adelson and the Koch bros feel about all this