State Elections Officials Seek Tighter Security

Laura Leslie, WRAL (Raleigh), April 2, 2014

State elections officials said Wednesday that they’re investigating hundreds of cases of voters who appear to have voted in two states and several dozen who appear to have voted after their deaths.

State lawmakers last year mandated the State Board of Elections to enter into an “Interstate Crosscheck”–a compact of 28 states that agreed to check their voter registration records against those of other states. The program is run by a Kansas consortium, checking 101 million voter records. The largest states–CA, FL, NY, and TX–are not part of the consortium.

State Board of Elections Executive Director Kim Westbrook Strach delivered the report Wednesday to the legislative Elections Oversight committee.

Strach said North Carolina’s check found 765 registered North Carolina voters who appear to match registered voters in other states on their first names, last names, dates of birth and the final four digits of their Social Security numbers. Those voters appear to have voted in North Carolina in 2012 and also voted in another state in 2012.

“Now we have to look individually at each one,” Strach said. “Could there have been data error?”

The crosscheck also found 35,570 voters in North Carolina who voted in 2012 whose first names, last names and dates of birth match those of voters who voted in other states in 2012, but whose Social Security numbers were not matched.

“A lot of states don’t provide last four SSN, or they don’t have that information,” Strach explained.

Additionally, the analysis found 155,692 registered North Carolina voters whose first and last names, dates of birth and final four Social Security number digits match voters registered in other states but who most recently registered or voted elsewhere.

That last group, Strach said, was most likely voters who moved out of state without notifying their local boards of elections. “Those may be voters we need to remove because they’ve left North Carolina.”

Strach also said a “10-year death audit” found 13,416 deceased voters who had not been removed from voter rolls as of October 2013. Eighty-one of those individuals, she said, died before an election in which they are recorded as having voted.

Strach cautioned that about 30 of those 81 voters appear to have legally cast their votes early via absentee ballot and then died before Election Day.

However, she said, “There are between 40 and 50 [voters] who had died at a time that that’s not possible.”

“We’re in the process of looking at each of these to see,” Strach said. “That means either a poll or precinct worker made a mistake and marked the wrong person, or someone voted for them. That’s something we can’t determine until we look into each case.”

Strach’s agency is asking legislators for a few key changes they say will improve voter security.

First, the elections board is asking for permission to compile a secure database of digital photographs and electronic signatures that would be available to county elections workers through the state’s secure electronic poll book system.

Only 38 counties use that state system, said elections board analyst Marc Burris, while 53 counties still rely on paper election rolls. {snip}

The board is proposing to use state Division of Motor Vehicles photos where possible but is also seeking permission to start a pilot program to take digital photos of voters at voting sites. Those photos would be stored securely and would allow poll workers to use biometrics or facial recognition systems to verify voters’ identity.

Burris couldn’t immediately say how many cases of duplicate voting are reported in the state. He said the current system, in theory, would block one person from obtaining two ballots. Where there have been cases of duplicate voting, Burris said, “It’s more typical that an absentee vote is filed and an Election Day vote is filed.”

“I think the big bombshell today is that you have documented voter fraud that has occurred,” said Rep. Tim Moore, R-Cleveland. “We have over 36,000 people who apparently voted in this state illegally and committed felonies.”

“Are these coming from particular counties?” Moore asked. “Do you have their names and addresses? Is that public information?”

Strach said it is not public information. “We’re treating it as a potential criminal investigation until we discern otherwise.”

“Could it be voter fraud? Sure, it could be voter fraud,” Strach said. “Could it be an error on the part of a precinct person choosing the wrong person’s name in the first place? It could be. We’re looking at each of these individual cases.”



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  • Tom Mixx

    All White people should be opting out of these “elections.” It doesn’t matter now about the outcomes. The stinking fedgov courts will always override the will of the people.

    • QuinnTheEskimo9

      Easy when you control the fedgov at all levels, the judiciary especially.

  • Luca

    Not only is investigating voter fraud racist, it disenfranchises minorities, the poor, the elderly, single-mothers and the LGBT community, but it has a disproportionate effect on dead people as well.

    • They’re not “dead”. They prefer to be called “metaphysically-challenged” these days. It’s a handicap now, don’t ya know!

      • dcc2379

        Like the joke in Chicago. Some Democrat pollsters were walking through the cemetery collecting names to register when they came across a name they couldn’t read. One said let’s just go on, but he was interrupted by the other who emphatically said that everyone deserves a right to vote.

      • Alexandra1973

        I’ve heard a joke that Obama must be a messiah, because the dead are rising to vote for him.

    • Jesse James

      Don’t forget felons.

      • I honestly waited until I was off supervison to re-register to vote. My real goal was and always will be the return of my gun rights.

        • Alexandra1973

          I think you already have them, it’s a matter of getting the government to recognize them. If you’ve done your time and paid your debt to society and blah blah blah, then ALL rights should be restored.

          Personally I think that’s a way of disarming people. Watch, they’ll probably make it so that if you’re convicted of a misdemeanor you have no gun rights.

          • Congress has refused to fund the background checks for the federal reinstatement program. It would require a Presidential pardon in my case. I don’t want a full pardon; I did it. I just want to go shooting at paper targets on weekends again.

    • SFLBIB

      Yes. As soon as a Republican dies, he becomes a Democrat.

  • Truthseeker

    But be sure not to forget: Voter fraud never happens and voter ID is just another way the evil white man tries to oppress minorities.

    • Sorta like the knockout-game!

      • QuinnTheEskimo9

        Sorta like intimidating White voters with weapons and calling them racist names, in violation of federal voting laws, and the highest law enforcer in the land lets them off, which only emboldens them.

        Yet every single case that was investigated by the FBI, DOJ, etc. of blacks whining about voter intimidation by Whites turned out to be false.

  • ricpic

    Who’s going to pursue this? Not the Republicans, that’s for sure. They’re more than happy to be the Dems’ junior partner in the war on whitey.

  • Photo ID for voting is necessary, but by itself it won’t stop shenanigans like these.

    What we need is a real comprehensive national solution, and no, I don’t mean comprehensive in terms of immigration.

    • Make my Final Solution comprehensive, please!


    • model1911

      Repeal the 15th amendment, and perhaps the 19th as well.

  • brior

    Who makes those electronic/computer voting machines again? It doesn’t matter who votes unless you have a paper ballot,

    • Exactly why I vote by mail. Perhaps my votes are not being counted, or are being counted the wrong way, but they’re not being automatically scrambled by a software “bug”.

      • QuinnTheEskimo9

        Your ballot is most likely thrown in the trash if your zip code says your area is conservative.

        Just like ballots for the overseas military, who mostly vote conservative, were tossed or not counted.

        Who’s there to challenge the results? Eric Holder? The one who thought it was A-OK that black thugs with clubs threatened White voters at a voting venue?

    • jane johnson

      Chertoff, maybe? He did so well with the airport scanners.

    • QuinnTheEskimo9

      It doesn’t matter who votes; what matters is WHO counts the ballots or is in charge of the electronic voting machines, which are beyond simple to manipulate.
      Remember all those “ballots” that were suddenly found in the back of someone’s car, all of them for Al Franken, I believe?

  • Voter fraud is easy to pull off. Policies that make it easier will just destroy this country that much sooner by destroying the few fragments of trust left. Thus, let the voter fraud reach epidemic proportions as far as I’m concerned. It means the end will come that much sooner and I just might be alive to see it.

    • joesolargenius

      Don’t despair but please do vote as we have another chance to weed out a few more socialist/ democrats in the next election coming up. We can’t give up the fight to retake our country as we are consistently retaking control of towns all across the country , no one gets fat or skinny overnight !

  • r j p

    I documented this in Milwaukee in 2008.
    I documented this in NW Indiana in 2008 also.
    It is occurring all over the country.
    Romney should have won Ohio.
    Not that I think Romney would be any better ….

    • The Verdict of History

      Mitt was strong on immigration.

      Had he won, we’d be overseeing ACTUAL deportation policy right now (at least for undocumented folk).

      Remember his calls for “self-deportation”?

      The notion itself is nonsense, but at least he revealed a healthy attitude on the question of unauthorized migration.

      Trust me you me – we wont find anything as sensible when 2016 roles around. By then, the GOP field of candidates will be expected to swear fealty to the “path-to-citizenship” agenda.

      You wait. You’ll see. You’ll be wishing we had Romney.

  • TXCriollo

    I love how the left says this does not happen, but was it in ohio where a women voted 8 times and said she did it to keep obama in the white house? I mean before the fraud the left kept it quite but now they just let everyone know

  • LHathaway

    Most of these cases likely aren’t fraud. The ‘bad’ part is this study is concerning itself with only a tiny portion of possible voter fraud cases.

  • I suspect it won’t really matter, because Eric Holder will tell prosecutors to back off as soon as the “disparate impact” bete noire is allowed to rear its ugly head.

  • joesolargenius

    I live in NC. and a few months before the 2012 election a black woman called me on the phone and asked me if I was going to vote in the upcoming election to which I replied yes.
    It seems that is how they determine whose name to use in their voter fraud schemes because if you say that your not voting, then they vote for you .

    • When one of those calls me on the phone I am so rude that I would make Mr. Spartacus blush. My understanding is that we pay for telephone service as a convenience for ourselves, and not so LaBongoleesha Washington-Jackson-Jackson-Washington-Jefferson-Smith can bother us at home.

      I don’t want to see them or hear from THEM in public, so listening to black voices inside my own home – even on the telephone – isn’t happening here.

      • QuinnTheEskimo9

        Where is Mr. Spartacus?

        • Alexandra1973

          I think he got the boot.

          • Diana Moon Glampers

            I hope not, I really enjoyed his opinions.

          • I asked the mods to allow him back, but he was a bit too “over-the-top” for them. I tried to explain that he’s young, and suggested that participating in regular, rational discussions about the topic that concerns us all would help him.

            I was once – years ago – kicked off this site for comments about Islam. I’m not religious, but I hate them with an iridescent passion that has electrical sparks and bright blue Cherenkov radiation emanating from it. It keeps me warm at night! I have been forgiven (?) but I certainly watch what I write. For the most part, I currently allow Islam and the actions of individual Muslims to speak for themselves.

          • The Verdict of History

            Wait.. what? Why would they censure remarks about Mohammedans?

            Did Amren receive bomb-threats or something?

            I can understand Amren’s deliberate effort to censure discussion about Jewish-related issues.

            But I find it particularly upsetting to hear that they censured discussion of Islam and Mohammedans.

            Full, un-curtailed, transparent and pointed discussion concerning Europe’s number one threat should be actively encouraged by Amren.

            I mean…. isn’t Amren supposed to be a place of safe-haven and a place for venting?

    • Diana Moon Glampers

      Yeah I got that in 2012 too. I laid into her about how it was none of her business and I didn’t appreciate being bothered. (add a number of minor expletives)

    • SFLBIB

      “they vote for you”

      That’s not all. One of my subordinates was an immigrant from SE Asia, and he told me of his college campus voter registration drive. He filled out the form but didn’t know which party to pick. The drive worker said, “Leave it blank; we’ll fill it out.” When he got his first ballot, he discovered he was a Democrat. He listened to the candidates and what they favored and concluded Democrats were like the communists he fled from.

      • I had something worse than that happen in the 1988 election. The usual people were registering voters on the Pacific Garden Mall in Santa Cruz, so I filled out the paperwork and registered as a Republican.

        Come election-time, I went to the appropriate polling place and discovered I wasn’t registered at all. Apparently the Marxist who took my form had thrown it in the trash. I didn’t get to vote. I complained to the appropriate election officials, but of course nothing could be done.

        Since then, I have never registered to vote anywhere except at a Department of Motor Vehicles office. No problems since then.

        • SFLBIB

          “…of course nothing could be done.”

          Translation: They didn’t want to do anything. Mayor Giuliani cracked down on petty crime, and guess what. Surprise, surprise! Serious crime dropped as well.

  • QuinnTheEskimo9

    “The largest states–CA, FL, NY, and TX–are not part of the consortium.”

    That’s where voter fraud will be concentrated in the midterm elections and beyond.

  • Why do you think we’ve been run by Dems for 50 years?

    • Martel

      Because most decent, law abiding Americans realize requiring voters to present ID is racist, it is bigoted, and it does not belong in the 21th century.


    Only 90%? There is an old joke about “Light-Bulb” Johnson winning by ballot box stuffing … in alphabetical order!

  • Paleoconn

    Ask the average American what he thinks of when you mention voter fraud, and he will mumble something about Florida 2000. There is never any mention in the MSM of the myriad cases of black voter fraud, the new Black Panthers, ACORN, 100% Obama votes in some districts. Never. The only thing you keep hearing repeated over and over is ‘how wa was robbed by Bush in 2000’. And that wasn’t even fraud. That was legit. And I am no fan of dubya.