The (In)compatibility of Diversity and Sense of Community

Zachary Neal and Jennifer Neal, MSU, November 6, 2013


Community psychologists are interested in creating contexts that promote both respect for diversity and sense of community. However, recent theoretical and empirical work has uncovered a community-diversity dialectic wherein the contextual conditions that foster respect for diversity often run in opposition to those that foster sense of community. More specifically, within neighborhoods, residential integration provides opportunities for intergroup contact that are necessary to promote respect for diversity but may prevent the formation of dense interpersonal networks that are necessary to promote sense of community. Using agent-based modeling to simulate neighborhoods and neighborhood social network formation, we explore whether the community-diversity dialectic emerges from two principles of relationship formation: homophily and proximity. The model suggests that when people form relationships with similar and nearby others, the contexts that offer opportunities to develop a respect for diversity are different from the contexts that foster a sense of community. Based on these results, we conclude with a discussion of whether it is possible to create neighborhoods that simultaneously foster respect for diversity and sense of community.

[Editor’s Note: The full study is available here.]

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  • MekongDelta69

    Uh-oh. Uh-Oh

    It’s ANOTHER useless ‘study’ undertaken by our ‘higher institutes of brainwashing and indoctrination’ to come to the same, obvious conclusion which any person with a room temperature of a meat locker IQ has known since they were sentient.

    • Tarczan

      It’s a useless study, but at least they were intellectually honest. They concluded that you feel more comfortable with people like yourself. The abstract is jumbled, but the main report is 11 pages of Ph.D. level jargon used to express that simple concept. They seem like very bright people, it’s too bad they didn’t enter a field where they could actually contribute to society or create something useful.

    • dcc2379

      Yet these people and DWLs believe this as much as they do global warming. If and when you disagree, you are maligned as mentally ill.

  • WmarkW

    Why would anyone think residential neighborhoods should be diverse?

    Residential neighborhoods should have consistent expectations of public behavior, like how fast you drive, where kids should play, what hour does quiet time start, and how much open romance is acceptable.

    • E_Pluribus_Pluribus

      “Why would anyone think residential neighborhoods should be diverse?”
      It is an article of faith in American academic, media and political circles that the failures of minorities are caused by their growing up in impoverished and often violent environments/neighborhoods. This theory requires that minorities be placed in a healthier (middle class white) environments. This require integration of schools and neighborhoods, i. e., diversity. Only this can overcome minority failure. Only this can close all those inequality “gaps” the grieve our establishment endlessly.

      • JohnEngelman

        What they don’t get is that the violent neighborhoods are made violent by the neighbors. When those neighbors are moved to white neighborhoods they turn them into slums too.

    • Anon

      There is no such thing as a non-white “residential neighborhood”. All those behaviors you imply by using that term are white only behaviors. In fact, what the article fails to mention is that “sense of community” is a whites only trait.
      In Africa, a black man who leaves his pathetic shanty for any length of time will come back and find it gone….ripped apart and looted by his “neighbors”. If you view the world from a satellite, white lands are all lit up brightly while all non-white lands are dark. Why? After all, whites build roads, infrastructure and everything else for non-whites and have since world war II.
      It’s because you can’t have electrical lines, plumbing, railroads or even public toilets in non-white lands. Every single person will steal, scrap, scavenge, desecrate or otherwise destroy such “community” property….even when killed, beaten or otherwise punished severely for it. There is NO “sense of community”.
      “Sense of community” is one of the many, many race neutral traits that lies by supposition. It assumes individuals have these traits and those individuals can be of any race. The reality is writ large in 5000 years of history. Those traits describe race, not individuals….and apply to only one race.

    • William Krapek

      Absolutely. I respect that. When I’m in a strange neighborhood and I see everyone driving 30 in a 30 MPH zone – I go 30.

      • newscomments70

        It sounds like you don’t live in California.

  • JSS

    “Based on these results, we conclude with a discussion of whether it is possible to create neighborhoods that simultaneously foster respect for diversity and sense of community”.

    Respect doesn’t mean that we have to live together. I think we can all start on the respect thing by respecting each others rights to our homelands and existence.

  • dd121

    “creating contexts”. I stopped reading.

    • GeneticsareDestiny

      Also, “community-diversity dialectic.” Why do social science researchers feel the need to write like this?

      • Einsatzgrenadier

        To impress those who don’t know any better with their superior intelligence and learning. Because many academics in the social sciences have nothing of importance to say, but must publish or perish, they are often forced to dress up the simplest ideas in the most convoluted prose in order to remain cutting edge.

        Sokal played a trick on these pseudo-intellectual windbags with his “Transgressing the Boundaries: Towards a Transformative Hermeneutics of Quantum Gravity”, a work that is still taken seriously by certain PoMo academics.

        • jay11

          You speak the truth. I exist in the world of education. The ‘eduspeak’ is thick and gets thicker each year. It’s all to make themselves sound like ‘experts’ in some mysterious voodoo science that laymen can never understand.
          Rubric = grading guide. Translanguaging = switching between languages. Differentiation = giving work based on the ability of the student. Scaffolding = breaking up an assignment into easy steps. Data = useless, subjective and unreliable numbers used to fire teachers.

          • Einsatzgrenadier

            IMO being able to express the most complex ideas in simple language, both clearly and effectively, requires considerable intelligence. The Nobel laureate in physics Richard Feynman was famous for his ability to express the complex mathematical theory of quantum electrodynamics (QED, for short), an obscure subject for all but the initiated few, into a language that practically anybody of average intelligence could understand.

        • MBlanc46

          This is behavioral-scientese. It’s pretty barbaric, but it’s an exemplar of lucidity compared to postmodernist/poststructuralist argot.

          • negrolocaust

            at least ten whites were beaten by mobs of blacks a few days ago in
            kentucky the police and government are covering it up the blks were also
            looting shops and destroying cars. here are some excerpts:
            Conrad acknowledged the department later learned two assaults had
            been reported around 7 p.m., 20 minutes before the attack on the
            13-year-old girl.
            Jean Henry said that 10 boys said nothing as
            they attacked her 61-year-old husband, with chronic leg pain and a
            history of heart problems. She and her two young grandchildren watched
            as they pummeled him, and a crowd gathered around to gawk, doing nothing
            to come to his aid. When they were finished, some girls in the group
            mocked her granddaughter for crying, she said.
            Two officers
            arrived, but did not take a report. She drove her husband to the
            hospital and filed a report Sunday morning. Another person assaulted
            around the same time filed a report Monday.
            Conrad said it is
            department policy to take reports on all assaults, even if a suspect is
            unknown.. He promised a full accounting of police responses Saturday
            He suspects other victims of violence who have yet to come forward.
            Henry hopes other victims of the violence will talk publicly about what they endured.She
            said that she’s been upset by the city’s response: The mayor and chief
            have emphasized how safe it remains downtown while her husband is
            recovering from contusions to his ribs, head and jaw. She’s taking her
            granddaughters to a therapist. One keeps talking about how they’re going
            to hurt her grandpa again.

        • JohnEngelman

          In certain kinds of writing, particularly in art criticism and literary criticism, it is normal to come across long passages which are almost completely lacking in meaning…

          Example: “Comfort’s catholicity of perception and image, strangely Whitmanesque in range, almost the exact opposite in aesthetic compulsion, continues to evoke that trembling atmospheric accumulative ginting at a cruel, an inexorably selene
          timelessness… Wrey Gardiner scores by aiming at simple bull’s-eyes with precision.

          “Only they are not so simple, and through this contented sadness runs more than the surface bitter-sweet of resignation.” (Poetry Quarterly.)

          – George Orwell, from “Politics and the English Language”

          • LHathaway

            actually, some of these passages may mean something to the writer, but it is expressed in such a subtle way, most of the actual meaning is lost – unless you happened to share a very similar thought or view? At least, I’ve read passages like you are referring to and they seemed to hold no meaning or little meaning and then I was like, wait, ‘I think I may see what she’s trying to suggest here at this one point’. I donno.

      • dd121

        It’s pseudo intellectual academia speak.

      • M&S

        Why do social science researchers feel the need to write like this?
        Because it is deliberately obscurative of the original meaning, let modern day social engineers hijack the outcome by defining the purpose of it’s analytics.
        In this of course, they highlight both their own ignorance and their will to see truth rendered conditional to independent ‘values’ which they get to arbitrarily dictate the hierarchy of.

        Dialektos in the original Greek means discourse or conversational debate centered upon (in the Socratic tradition) the sole pursuit of _Truth_.
        Usually as a function of question and answer: “Does diversity function or achieve X. Yes or No?” If no. Don’t force the issue.
        With outside mediation it is the classical interpretation of the Greek philosopher holding forth with a chosen champion of an opposed argument whose truth is seen in the eyes of an impartial judge (who may direct the flow of the questions) or even the audience crowd.
        It requires a great deal of honesty on the behalf of both parties, not to allow their own opinions to color the issue and thus is something utterly alien and threatening to Liberals who like to find chinks into which to ‘validatively assert themselves’ as much as the correctness of their opinion.
        Modern derivative usage by Kant and Hegelian schools seeks to render it meaningless by suggesting that it requires: ‘a process of resolving or merging contradictions in character’. i.e. of reconciling truth with lies.
        Anything involving ‘process’ to a Liberal is the same as saying ‘Arguing any digressive or unproveable assertion until all point in the original discussion is lost and the opponent wears out.’
        In this, modern dialectics are in fact similar to what the ancient Sophists used to define as a function of _oratory_: a combination of Pathos (emotion), Logos (rational/logical truth) and Ethos (standing laws or truths seen as unquestionable, as a form of confirmation bias) of which Pathos was often the most driving value because a man who could speak with driving purpose (we would call it stump speech or even zealotry) to the lowest common denominator would be seen as the one who displayed ‘Arete`’ or _quality_.
        Cry harder, Yell more Boldly, Promise Bigger than the Other Guy.
        Maybe it will come true if enough idiots believe you is a function of mass appeal that drives modern day sensibilities as well and it is the triumph of the Pathos over the Logos inherent to stupid people (Feminists and the other weak willed) being led on by the Eskimos to yell louder, with a common voice. Until they are joined by other mindless morons from outside.
        Unfortunately, as society is ever more inundated by those with divergent interests from our own and the low IQ to believe those interests are valid in America as opposed to Mexico or Africa, you will see Dialectic come more and more to resemble a stage play than a reasoned dialogue or debate.
        Where the outcome is a given and only the clever way in which the antagonist White Male Logical Speaker is led to their downfall is important to reinforcing the drama of what is happening.
        Because you see, if something is ‘ethically true’ then it cannot be questioned. And thus all logic must be contrary in and of itself. To be defeated by supposition and crowd-speak as emotional rhetoric which all may share, if only they let themselves be seduced into ‘believing’ instead of /knowing/.

  • So CAL Snowman

    The Japanese and Chinese have been at each others’ throats for centuries. The Shia and Sunni Muslims have been fighting for thousands of years. The North Koreans and South Koreans hate each other and are still in a permanent state of war. The Africans can’t kill each other fast enough, Rwanda, Darfur, Sudan, etc. are all in open states of war. Yet somehow Whites are expected to be the vanguard race in bringing everyone together to sing Kumbaya? It kills me how these so called “psychologists” NEVER look outside the United States and Europe to see how different races and different ethnic groups practice diversity and multiculturalism. If they did they would surely see the WORLDWIDE trend towards separation and extreme violence against the other, even amongst racially similar groups.

    • William Krapek

      On the Sunni and Shi’ites: it’s actually even older than that. Most men with the J1 Y-Chromosome haplotype are Sunni. Most J2a’s are Shi’ite. The Shi’ite Crescent you might have heard of is mostly J2a’s.

      (This is outside of the Iranians, who are a whole different animal altogether.)

      I found out recently I had a J2a, and when researching it I stumbled on that interesting piece of info.

    • Raymond Kidwell

      There are a number of minority groups in China. India is also diverse. It’s not like every case of diversity leads to some kind of tribal conflict. The issue has more to do with compatibility. People usually don’t throw up arms about Jews or Chinese moving into a neighborhood.

      • Einsatzgrenadier

        You obviously know nothing about the histories of either China or India if you think the minorities in those countries hold hands and sing Kumbaya together. The Chinese have had many problems with their Tibetan and Uighur minorities. This has often led to protests, uprisings and violence. India is a dysfunctional 3rd world cesspool, where Muslims and Hindus are at each other’s throats. Whites do not want to live around Chinese and Jews, which is why they segregate from each other along racial lines. The historical evidence is clear: ethnoracial diversity inevitably leads to either violent conflict or separation.

      • M&S

        China is what, 93% Han Chinese? Do you think the Uyghur need to have a ‘greater say’ in the day to day life of China’s majority population simply because they are an ‘oppressed minority’ of roughly 10,019,758 out of 1,360,570,000 total Chinese?
        What gives you the right to suggest that the Chinese ‘oh’ (them) as much as ‘owe’ them a damn thing? As an outsider, why do you -care- about what other societies self-electively form themselves to be?
        The danger of judging OUR culture, where we kow tow to a minority of 13% like our fathers put the chains on yesterday, is that America looks like crap, not because it does or doesn’t look like X/Y/Z nationalities as cultures as much as skin tones.
        But because it has no ethnocentric identity of it’s own (internal, minding our own affairs, step off and stop judging us thanks!). Or perhaps we are just not allowed to find it.
        Americans are like the Downs patient running from mirror to mirror in the fun house trying to find some hint of identity that matches our sense of ourselves. Rather than realize that whatever we are, right or wrong, is NOTHING LIKE THE REST, because we are what is different.

        India is divided along caste` lines to the extent that not only do the not date below ‘class’ but even /within it/ there are entire separations as no-go zones of skin color and economic probity.

        Marital magazines in India clearly, openly, state: “No one with dark skin need apply, thanks.” Because they embrace what they think of as beauty deriving from the last group of whites who crossed the himilayas and were promptly swallowed by the local populations until annihilatively blended out (whether you believe this was Alexander or some group of proto Aryans is up to you).
        Indeed, the number one selling beauty product AROUND THE NON WHITE PLANET which is bleaching cream. Which goes to show you that, far from hating us for our lack of cultural aplomb as seated souls, the ROW is just as apt to seek to want to be us as they are so ‘deeply centered’ in their own identities.
        The problem being that we can’t make them white in ways that go far deeper than skin.
        But they CAN RUIN US. Costing us our genetic souls.
        I would suggest that we get what our lack of self confidence deserves but for the simple fact that there is a profit motive inherent to our supposed Lord And Mighty leadership selling themselves like prostitutes to the originators of the Cosmopolitan Universalism.
        Those past masters of hypocrisy with their insistence upon an ethnostate as the right to judge the rest of our racist xenophobia. Yeah. Them.
        Three Percent of this nation forms 70% of it’s upper echelon in finance, media, medicine, law and governance. Does that not, in and of itself suggest to you a reality shifting moment inherent to the true power of elitist, self serving, separatist, behavior?

        • Raymond Kidwell

          The Uigurs (sp) are a totally different minority in conflict with Chinese society. There are some 20 different East Asian ethnic groups in China. North and South Chinese are ethnically very different in size, skin tone, character etc. America seemed to have an identity when it was a European melting pot. Similar people didn’t seem to have much conflict there. Of course communities will segregate to keep their identity, but still can exist together and work together in a nation. I don’t see how a Jewish neighborhood or little China really threatens the United States or Europe, so long as they don’t somehow over run the native population (which I guess they are due to insane policies).
          I don’t need the whole nation to be exactly like me in order to have a sense of identity. Nor does any other ethnic group. They are doing just fine. It’s mostly whites that somehow lose their identity because its “racist” for them to have an Aryan identity. But at this point I’m not worried about being called a racist the bullies that could care less about me, so it’s not a problem I have.
          I see diversity as different from liberal “diversity”. I don’t have a problem with diversity. I have a problem with white hating “diversity”, affirmative action, lowered standards etc. America seemed to be doing fine in the 1950s and it was a pretty diverse nation at the time. But that’s when they forced integration of white communities, taught white people to hate themselves, lowered standards, passed racist affirmative action laws, destroyed the diverse neighborhoods through forced mixing and it seems to have gone down hill from there.

  • JohnEngelman

    In his book “The Emerging Republican Majority,” which was published in 1969, Kevin Phillips said that when the black population of a state is less than ten percent it does not effect white voting behavior. When it exceeds ten percent whites get nervous. When it approaches fifty percent the control of those blacks is the issue nearly all whites agree on.

    In this whites reveal their wisdom. Integration only works in a school or neighborhood when the black population is less than ten percent.

    • LHathaway

      10 percent is about all white genes can handle. Actually, we can’t even seem to handle that. Is there any amount of color white genes can safely integrate with or ‘absorb?. I suspect the awareness of gypsies is becoming quite prominent in Europe, lately. I mean, these people are like 98% white and there are few of them, and yet, their numbers grow and even after hundreds of years or whatever in Europe they are becoming even darker. Did that sound scary? News informers believe the truth is what scares you. Yet, the unknown is supposed to scare you. . .

      One thing is sure? you are ruled by those you are afraid to criticize. . .

      • pcmustgo

        and the Jews are indeed 90% white.

  • cecilhenry

    I want to live in a racially and culturally homogeneous community and society.

    Hows that for ‘diversity’. Too diverse from the agenda anti-whites want to imposed.

  • Anon

    There is no such thing as diversity. If you look at the census data in the US broken down by race and put on a map, extremely clear borders crop up, often at the street level. Everyone within these borders is the same race. Simply put, races refuse to mix. When forced to mix (as one unfortunate liberal experiment in the California prison system recently discovered), the result is instant rioting, murder and explosive separation of the races. Nowhere on the planet, nor at any time in human history have different races lived intermixed.
    Put a hundred blacks and a hundred whites in an auditorium and (after the brawling stops) one half the room will be all white and the other half all black.

    • pcmustgo

      This has sadly been the case at various “diverse” community events I go to. Blacks turn them into racial war zones.

  • Romulus

    I love diversity!

    German, English,American, Austrian, Norse,Celt, Australian, afrikaaner, British Canadian, Iberians, The Rus, Zealanders,etc.,etc.

  • A Freespeechzone

    More psycho-babble BS—‘diversity’ NEVER exhibits mutual respect whatsoever; only attacks, threats and violence against the majority in the name of retribution, punishment and ‘payback’.

  • “Diversity equals the end of community.” That is very well put. And because diversity is the end of community, diversity portends the end of civilization.

    • JohnEngelman

      That depends on who contributes to the diversity. When I was a child, the first time I saw Oriental girls I thought, “With white girls some are pretty, and some are not. With Oriental girls all are pretty.”

      I grew up in a neighborhood with lots of Jewish families. Consequently Jews have always been gemütlich to me. My reading of the Bible in several English translations has enhanced my respect for the Jews.

      My two best friends in high school were Chinese Americans. They introduced me to Chinese culture, Chinese food, and Washington, DC’s Chinatown.

      My appreciation of Orientals was increased by taking Tang Soo Do lessons from Ki Whang Kim.

      I enjoyed living with Vietnamese in downtown San Jose, California. While I lived in the San Francisco Bay area I enjoyed visiting the Japan Town in San Jose and San Francisco, and the China Town in San Francisco and Oakland.

      Living on the edge of a black neighborhood dispels me of illusions about the Negro race. Nevertheless, I like every black person I know by name.

      • pcmustgo

        I thought you lived IN the black neighborhood, not on the edge of it.

        Secondly, two best friends were chinese-american? You truly are close with those asians. Most white males just date their women, without friending their males.

        • Northerner

          Yet for some reason the occasional AM-WF couple still freaks people out around here.

      • I’ve seen plenty of homely Asian girls, myself.
        Asians are more like Whites than any other race. They are the least problematic. But I would argue that Asian diversity is still problematic and would still assist in the destruction of civilization. If you want a fleshed out argument in favor of what I wrote above, watch my YouTube video. You can get to it by clicking the link in my profile. I would appreciate feedback, because I want the video to be as persuasive as possible. I might remake it in the future.

        • JohnEngelman

          How long is your video? Before I endure with I expect to be a long appeal to values and concerns I lack, I would like you to present a précis of your video that fits on a single computer screen.

          Please leave a blank line between paragraphs in order to make your précis easier to read.

          Keep in mind that I like Orientals and Jews. Like the vast majority of Americans I approve of interracial marriage. Appeals to hostility to Orientals and Jews do not appeal to me. They may dissuade me from recognizing valid insights in your argument.

  • Is science starting to catch up with common sense? Am I being irrationally optimistic in hoping that this kind of thinking will dominate science within ~20 years?

  • Northern American-Nationalist

    “Community psychologists are interested in creating contexts that promote both respect for diversity and sense of community.”

    Are they all? I fear this subjective opinion is actually an objective fact.

  • Alexandra1973

    In Columbus, Ohio, Muslims put up a billboard that claims Jesus is Muslim: http://www(dot)newswithviews(dot)com/Daubenmire/dave363.htm

    • Katherine McChesney

      THEIR “Jesus” is our Anti-Christ.

    • MBlanc46

      Since Muhammad (pbuh) pinched a significant part of his scam from Judaism and Christianity, it’s not surprising that there are bits of them in the final product.

      • Alexandra1973

        What does pbuh mean? Peace be unto him?

        Actually Islam was started by Augustinian monks. Mohammad was their puppet. The reason? So they would take Jerusalem from the Jews and give it to the pope.

        Well…they took Jerusalem, and in essence flipped off the pope and called him an infidel…and that’s how the Crusades got started.

        • MBlanc46

          Peace be upon him (I don’t know what the Arabic is). It’s used, in writing anyway, whenever the Prophet’s name occurs. I tend to pronounce the first word slightly differently to how it’s spelled.

  • LHathaway

    “residential integration provides opportunities for intergroup contact that are necessary to promote respect for diversity”
    You have to interact with someone in order to respect them? What happened to respecting everybody? Only whites are taught this, line, (as indeed it seems to have been accepted by the writer above) by the way. Whites must have people of color supervise them so they will respect people of color. And workplaces and neighborhoods that are mostly white need an influx of persons of color so they can better deal with diversity. But people of color must have people of color supervise them, so they will feel things a legit (frankly I forget the exact reasons – that are usually statde when they need one of their own to be in charge to make up for this grave oversite and horror when this was not the case, and is now corrected now that a person of color is able to understand their viewpoint..

  • dcc2379

    Duhversity especially destroys trust and a srnsr of community when you fing your house robbed sfter going to work, your son us shaken done as a 6th grader at school by anothet 16 year old diverse student, and mahogany mobs work to negate white privilege. Blacks and hispanucs neither work nor like white people.

  • I’m very into psychologically, which is why I rant on about the decreasing mental health
    and mental stability of whites a lot. After all this is a psychological warfare on our race and with geneocidal consequences to our numbers and influence. I’ve already predicated an epidemic of PTSD (Post Traumatic Stress Disorder) in white women around 2050-2060. There will be huge areas of victimized, terrorized and frightened white people living in what may seem as a completely hopeless and helpless situation.

    These are conditions of life that will put many, many whites (especially poor ones) into an endless cycle (stress response) of fear, danger, despair, anguish, hopelessness, helplessness, alienation, disassociation, anger, bitterness, poverty and strife.

    Plenty of white men will be depressed as well. I’m sure the suicide attempts will sky rocket as well. Not too mention how many more people will be on sick pay, benefits or needing to be hospitalized and/or sectioned. The western nations set to become third world nations will see, sometime in the future, unimaginable poor mental health, depression and trauma, and on a scale never seen before.

    Now, we must address what has essentially been done to the white race in North America and Western Europe. Politically and socially, they have been emotionally abused
    with tactics of (invalidation), insidious (gas-lighting) and malevolent (indoctrination),
    into committing racial suicide by voting against their interests and most crucially
    their survival. In fact, the latter has been stolen away from them. This is that they have been denied existence as distinct peoples with distinct cultures, and equally denied the continuation of existence as those important things. The act within itself of steeling that right away is inhumane and genocidal. It is the equivalent of play god with the world’s cultures.

    This is essentially the imprisonment and torture of a race by psychological warfare. We
    will be subjected to high levels of crime and everywhere with the perpetrators being overwhelmingly non-white, while the victims overwhelmingly white, which is precisely what the crime statistics tell us. As well as the fact that there is little justice for whites in racially-motivated crime. We are going to see the virtual extinction of our race and culture in the US and Western parts of Europe in the future as cruel, cruel fate.

    At this point: If it isn’t a planned genocide we are facing…then what is it? Can anyone else debate with me on this?

    • LHathaway

      It’s a vast plot, world-wide in scope, to convince the people of the Earth that women, in their base and native state, or even in advanced societies, are in reality primitive creatures who prefer men who are violent, destructive, and brutal, or prefer the ones who are the most violent. In fact, this is why men are violent and brutal in the first place, because it pleases or advances the causes of the women the ‘qural’ over. In fact, that’s why men have been so ‘violent’ for all these years, they do so at the bequest and in helpless service of the women who pick them.
      So, in other words, we’re leaving a period where the Earths population believes men are brutal and selfish creatures who have harmed women and all creatures on the Earth, for all history, into one in where we understand it is women who are truly the primitive ones. Maybe even bible sales will pick up again, who knows?
      Admittedly, whites in North America, as we become a smaller and smaller population, even as other races and most off-whites increase in number, will be hit hardest in this quest for ‘knowledge’. It’s a small price to pay for ‘world peace’ and freedom at last. While, as we both guess, white men in North America will be hit hardest, by what passes for ‘tolerance’, as white numbers truly do drop and drop, and the Earths population has come to understand women’s evil, uhm, inescapable social nature, white men in North America will at least be consoled by the fact that, they at least, will be saved as a race and as commanders and holder’s of their own destiny. What the rest of the whites on the Earth choose to do, is anyone’s guess. Probably just live in world peace and harmony (although, eventually – ultimately, holding up their own banner unstained, on their own – in the words of the great racist T Bilbo so many years ago).
      Ok, should I be committed now?

      • That wasn’t very helpful.

        • LHathaway

          You can lead a horse to water. . .

    • pcmustgo

      I already have PTSD issues, mostly due to my racial experiences.

      • I’m sorry to hear that. A few months ago, my 26-year-old friend (who is from England) currently living in America, was sectioned on a psychiatric ward after having attempted to commit suicide. They’ve been suffering from traumatic stress and major depression for a while now and it’s entirely to do with the dispossession and genocide of native English people in England. This person, my friend, was in an unbelievable amount of despair and agony. I think their depression even took on a psychotic aspect. I think they are literally afraid to return to England. They’ve developed full blow avoidance symptoms and try avoiding anything to do with English and England because according to them, “They cannot bare the pain of it.” This is sheer psychological abuse!

  • Andy

    That’s the way they’re teaching students to write these days. Last term I got out a book from my school library that advocated making writing difficult to read because your readers will feel smart if they understand it and assume you’re smart if they don’t.

  • Ellis Kurtz

    This is old news; from AmRen on February 11, 2014

    Ethnic Diversity’s ‘Inconvenient Truths’

    Are you engaged with your community? Or are you “hunkering down?”

    Are you connecting with friends, volunteering or involved in politics? Or are you drawing into yourself, “like a turtle?”

    Harvard sociologist Robert Putnam has completed an important study of more than 30,000 North Americans and concluded that–especially if you live in ethnically diverse cities such as Toronto, Vancouver or Los Angeles–it’s likely you are “hunkering down.”

    That’s the colloquial phrase that Putnam .. uses to describe the lack of trust he discovered among most North Americans in diverse urban settings.


    In contrast to conservatives’ beliefs, Putnam says multicultural diversity doesn’t necessarily lead to open “conflict” among people of different ethnic groups. “Race riots” and violence do not often break out.

    On the other hand, contrary to liberals’ dreams, Putnam did not find people of different ethnicities inevitably discover “harmony” or enjoy “fusion.”


    Putnam’s survey of 41 American cities and towns found people in ethnically diverse regions tend to be polite–but also disengaged and wary.

    People in diverse urban regions tend to seek shelter in their own little worlds. “Diversity, at least in the short run, seems to bring out the turtle in all of us. . . . The more ethnically diverse the people we live around, the less we trust them.“

    Putnam adds an additional disturbing discovery–that “in-group trust, too, is lower in more diverse settings.” In other words, people also become more distrustful even of members of their own ethnic group.

    Notice that? diversity will not only cause whites to mistrust blacks, it will cause greater white-on-white mistrust.

    See also Jared Taylor’s article on Putnam: “Diversity Destroys Trust”

    • SFLBIB

      I vaguely remember a similar study written up on AmRen about 5 years ago.

  • MikeofAges

    Maybe no justification, but, for those motivated by the Anglo-Saxon ideal anyway, there is at least an increasing sense of obligation to the Native community and Native society. This is reflected in funding for Native institutions such as tribal colleges and a health system, and the willingness to submit issues of legal and treaty obligations to adjudication by the judicial system, with the expectation that the courts will deliver unbiased jurisprudence. The problem with any effort to meet the kind of accountability you propose is that no matter you do, the next day everything that was true the day before yesterday will still be true.

    The only way white America can make good on its history is by adhering to the doctrine of British Israelism, with an important modification. British Israelism is a symbolic doctrine which holds that America is the new Promised Land for British people and the descendents of the British people’s more remote antecedents.

    The modified version of this concept hold that America can be a Promised Land, a “City on a Hill”, for many people provided it is governed according to the Anglo-Saxon concept of law, culture and social governance, as long as those other peoples sign onto and adhere as well to the concept.

    The problem, in a nutshell, as perceived by the people who post here, is that some people either do not have the capacity to adhere to this ideal on a sustained basis or are under the sway of a willfully contrary ideology, or some combination of both. The threat that they represent is to overthrow the Anglo-Saxon order which, actually, would be willing to welcome them if they adhered to it merely on a parallel basis. The end result, therefore, would be the destruction of America’s Providential order and it replacement by a irremediably purgatorial order, even an actual hell at that. That white America perhaps has not fully lived up to this ideal is not an argument against its validity.

    Hope that covers it for you. What kind of order do you anticipate once whitey no longer is available to serve as the prospective guarantor of the Providential order of peace, fairness and abundance?

  • PouponMarks

    Blacks and Hispanics certainly don’t care or want any of this.

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  • Nevsky

    It’s quite simple. We built this country. Indians did not. More importantly, there is growing evidence to show that there were Caucasians in North America before the ancestors of the Indians arrived from Siberia. So by your logic, Indians have no right to the land either.

    In reality, there is no “right” to land. Not even the indigenous Europeans have a “right” to Europe. It all boils down to who can reproduce and defend their territory.

    The most intellectually consistent framework we can present is that we are a people and our existence and way of life is threatened by invaders, and we must do what we can to secure a future for our descendants, even on a land that isn’t originally ours. Survival is moral.

  • Northerner

    Why don’t you be the first to host a block event?

  • Raymond Kidwell

    Indeed I haven’t noticed any strong lines between white groups. The lines do exist but its fairly common to have intermarriage or people move from one white subset to another. It’s pretty easy for these groups to all work together for national interests and be part of the same larger community. The only people who seem to have trouble with this are people who have trouble working together with anybody i.e. those with low altruism, a low sense of group goals and such. Whites in general (especially Germanics and Nordics) have the highest levels of altruism and group consideration and Blacks usually have the lowest. So yeah maybe some black communities can’t get along with the national community but they can’t get along with themselves either. I don’t see anything inherently unworkable in regards to different ethnicities sharing a sense of common purpose. Germany itself consists of various subsets (tribes/regions), as does Europe. Europe is one of the most diverse places on the planet in regards to small nations/tribes living together peaceably. Its not the diversity that is the issue but rather the low altruism of some racial groups. Beyond that the new “diversity” is nothing but code word for anti-white critical culture. Obviously that form of “diversity” doesn’t lead to anything productive.
    In regards to racial castes mixing in India I meant there are many classes, racial groups etc. like the Jains who live (mostly) peacefully among other peoples. Diversity and racial mixing is not the same. In fact its the opposite. We have been sold on this idea that mixing all the races into one global cocktail is “diversity” and stamping out white culture and people is “diversity” is a nonsense codeword. Real diversity would be people protecting their indigenous cultures and learning to integrate them into some larger national purpose similar to the seven civilized tribes of the Indians or the unification of Germany (although not a perfect example as some local variations were dismissed in favor of common national traits). Slavs, Germans and Celts lived among each other for thousands of years with only minor wars mostly over necessary resources to survival. They mostly worked together. Maybe there is some truth to extremely different groups being incompatible and non-altruistic ones, but at least in some contexts it doesn’t seem to be something that is impossible.

    • Raymond Kidwell

      That’s the one thing I have noticed about Aryans is that they are far more considerate of community and far more altruistic. This seems to be the secret to their success. The only other group that comes close to this are the Japanese. Other groups may have higher I.Q.s or what have you, but you take a typical China man who may score high on an SAT but he also has no problem skinning a cat alive and eating it, cheating on his taxes, sex trafficking women etc. Some of this may be reinforced by culture, but some of this is just innate. Similar as well with Jews. They seem more willing to swindle or harm another human being, cheat on their taxes, undermine national interests for personal gain etc. although this may be less pronounced in some Jews due Nordic influence. Otherwise Israel would lead the world, or China or something. I suppose creativity has some merit but it just seems to me that the ability to care about others and work together with diverse people is probably one of the traits that makes whites successful (at least when it isn’t brought to some insane extreme as it is by anti-white “liberalism”). Although I have to say I have met a lot of white trash that seem to have the non-white criminal nature. I’m a bit shocked at the normalacy of crime among a lot of people. Even among a lot of Southern Europeans (such as Italians), highly educated Asians I meet etc. That seems to be the biggest difference I have noticed between whites and non-whites in my own experience.

  • scutum

    Diversity and “a sense of community ” are mutually exclusive. But of course the break-up of our commuhnities and families is exactly what the elites want. Their agenda is to reduce us all to the level of serfs/consumers dependent on government for our existence. What do you think the afordable care act is all about? And where does the government get it’s money from? It gets most of it from the Federal Reserve which is not a government agency but a bankers cartel whose stock is wholly owned by the large international banks. Contrary to popular belief our largest creditor is not China, it is the Federal Reserve.

  • William Krapek

    My Y comes from a “Slovakian” immigrant. He came from the Carpathian Mountains in northern Hungary when the Austo-Hungarian Empire was still on the map. He was culturally Slovakian and his primary language was Slovak. But I have absolutely no Slavic blood in me according to my nuclear DNA. And I am half Italian, which I thought was impossible considering the rest of my heritage and my Slavic last name. (And about 80% of my ancestors are from the British Isles – yet I’m only about 30% British!) So he must have been Italian. Certainly with that Y chromosome. And his wife – who had the last name of Molina – was probably Italian, too. They were Catholics.

    The Y itself is a variant originating on Crete. You hear of Medusa and the Minotaur? That’s my people.

    You’re welcome! 😉

    I live in Dallas.

  • Alfred the Great

    This is a no brainer. The etymology of community has to do with unity based on things in common. Diversity means having things that are not in common.

  • Paleoconn

    Robert Putnam redux. This is more Bowling Alone stuff. The thing is at least these liberals like Putnam aren’t blinded by ideology to the point of refuting statistical and research findings. I respect lefties like this more than Hispandering neocons like McCain, Graham, Ryan, Rubio, etc