Court Skeptical of IQ Scores in Deciding Execution

Washington Post, March 3, 2014

The Supreme Court indicated Monday that states should look beyond an intelligence test score in borderline cases of mental disability to determine whether a death row inmate is eligible to be executed.

Twelve years after the Supreme Court barred execution of the mentally disabled, the justices heard arguments about how states evaluate claims of mental disability that, if substantiated, protect inmates from being put to death.

Five justices, enough to form a majority, pointed repeatedly to the margin of error inherent in IQ and other standardized tests. They voiced skepticism about the practice in Florida and certain other states of barring an inmate from claiming mental disability when his IQ score is just above 70.

“Your rule prevents us from getting a better understanding of whether the IQ score is accurate or not,” Kennedy told Florida Solicitor General Allen Winsor. Kennedy and the four liberal justices objected to Winsor’s argument that there is no wiggle room when an IQ score tops 70.

That score is widely accepted as a marker of mental disability, but medical professionals say people who score as high as 75 can be considered intellectually disabled because of the test’s margin of error. In any case, there is a consensus that the test score should be just one factor in determining mental disability.

Lawyers for inmate Freddie Lee Hall said there is ample evidence to show that he is mentally disabled, even though most of his multiple IQ tests have yielded scores topping 70. Hall has been on death row for more than 35 years since being convicted of murdering a pregnant 21-year-old woman in 1978.

Winsor responded to sustained questioning by noting that abandoning the 70-point IQ cutoff could double the number of death row inmates who claim they are mentally disabled.

Justice Elena Kagan cut in to acknowledge that Winsor might be right about the number of claims. “But some of them may be mentally retarded,” Kagan said.

Winsor said that state law has determined “they are not mentally retarded if they don’t have an IQ score of 70 or below.”


Psychiatrists and psychologists who are supporting Hall say an IQ test alone is insufficient for a diagnosis of mental disability. They say there’s a consensus among the mental health professions that accurate diagnosis must also include evaluating an individual’s ability to function in society, along with finding that the mental disability began in childhood.


Waxman was pressed by justices generally sympathetic to his case to establish a workable rule for states. “A line has to be drawn somewhere,” Justice Sonia Sotomayor said.

A score of 76 would preclude an inmate from arguing mental disability, Waxman said. That cutoff, in place in Mississippi and Oklahoma, is far enough away from 70 to be outside the margin of error, he said.

Texas, the nation’s busiest death penalty state, does not use a strict IQ cutoff.

A decision in Hall v. Florida, 12-10882, is expected by late June.

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  • If an offender is “smart enough” do do evil deeds, they need to live with the consequences of their decisions.

    • A one question IQ test for would-be murders:

      Do you know that when you murder a person, you can be executed for it?

  • Puggg

    Someone with a 70 IQ isn’t going to invent anything, but he is smart enough to understand right from wrong, and that doing certain things is wrong.

    And where do they do IQ tests anymore? The schools don’t because they’re afraid of the race differences. You need to show IQ tests done earlier in life, but where would that happen? The courts won’t take an IQ test done while the suspect is in jail, because it’s assumed that he’s going to tank the test in order to get out of the chair.

    • The ASVAB, SAT, and the ACT are the modern forms of IQ test. They produce the same results, broken down by ethnicity, that other IQ tests have for a hundred years.

  • libertarian1234

    Knowing right from wrong isn’t affected by stupidity.

    Even a black with an I.Q. of 60 knows it’s wrong to kill someone.

    So what’s the problem?

  • Alexandra1973

    I think the IQ defense is so blacks won’t have to pay for their crimes. They’re safe from the death penalty–and accountability.

    • NotTooSwift

      So does this mean that blacks are actually going to admit they have low IQ’s?

      • Alexandra1973

        They’ll try to have it both ways, you watch.

  • Robert Kelley

    Low IQ does not eliminate responsibility, although it can be an argument for diminished capacity. Reliance solely upon a standardized test is foolish – too easy to game.

    • Alexandra1973

      I’m told my son has an IQ of 44 (that’s TESTABLE IQ) but he knows right from wrong. He’s mildly autistic and has problems with expressive language, but he knows…and he’s smarter than he lets on.

      • My IQ was tested by the feds at 152. It never brought me any joy. I was in prison at the time. Someone there was apparently curious about it.

        • Alexandra1973

          I think mine’s somewhere in the “gifted” range.

          My sister-in-law’s the one that said that with my son it’s testable IQ (she used to work with kids like him)…if you can’t say what you know, it’s assumed you don’t know it, apparently. Yet he doesn’t need help with self-care, I can ask him to make, say, 54 cents and he knows what coins to use, and he does okay with reading, and his writing is legible. He’s also really artistic and loves to build things. I don’t need to use child-safety locks in my van with him because he knows you don’t open the door while in motion.

          I’ve also heard him saying the alphabet BACKWARD, really quick, and not missing a letter!

          • I sang the alphabet backwards to the last buttmunch cop. They arrested me for being a jerk that time instead of being drunk. They also let me go.

            Not too bad when they let you go.

          • Who Me?

            I learned to read at the age of 3, and have been tested at 137 IQ. (Nothing to brag about, it’s what a person does, not where they test on a scale), but I have NEVER been able to recite the alphabet backwards!


  • I’m guessing all my dogs I’ve ever lived with had IQs in the 30 range. They were able to behave themselves. This IQ junk is just that–junk science dredged up by disgusting self-righteous liberals. Mental retardation is NOT an excuse to justify avoiding the death penalty.

  • disqus_Xz3UA6obwj

    I hope they realize that they are then saying discrimination based upon IQ is justified if they argue that low IQ individuals should not be held responsible for their behavior. For example, one should be able to refuse rent to someone with a low IQ if they can’t be held responsible for their actions.

  • 1stworlder

    So I guess that dogs shouldn’t be put down if they get out and hurt kids if they have lower IQs than the average black.

    • SaggyGenes

      Most of them don’t.

  • Pastor Theo Kawimbe

    53 is the average in Cameroon. On the continent, 70 is normal to kinda high.

  • HamletsGhost

    Liberals insist that IQ is a meaningless measure of intelligence, unless it’s needed in the service of saving black murderers from execution. Doublethink on display.

  • bubo

    This monster didn’t just murder the poor girl. He and an accomplice kidnapped the young woman in the parking lot of a grocery store at 3 in the afternoon. They beat, raped(of course) and shot her.

    He and the accomplice also shot and killed a deputy who they encountered later on.

    This guy deserves to die, it should have happened long ago.

  • Diana Moon Glampers

    In googling the murderer for more context, you also get Freddie Lee Hall,Jr, also a murderer of white people. Depressing.
    I don’t understand the lawyers that fight for these people. Is someone paying them?

  • Spartacus

    They don’t show any pictures, but for the record , both of the killers in the case were black, and their victim was White. They raped and beat her repeatedly before killing her …


    • Perhaps if someone was claiming an animal level of intelligence to explain bestial behavior, they should be put down like a vicious dog with no trial at all. There is another side to this page, after all.

  • This surely must cut both ways.
    If these people are so dumb that they can’t be held responsible for their actions, why are they allowed to wander around freely?

  • Luca

    Even a pit bull with an IQ of 20 doesn’t kill for sport, out of hatred, greed or because they lack a conscience. IQ, whether low or high, has nothing to do with murder.

  • Lewis33

    Although putting down murderers like this fellow is not a problem in it’s self, I’m starting to think that our whole system (government) is too corrupt and/or incompetent for me to continue supporting the death penalty. (Think of affirmative action judges, juries, lawyers.) Once we have a new system, then perhaps we could bring it back.

    • Petronius

      The jury as it originated in the medieval English village and manor courts, and as it was transplanted to colonial America, was a splendid legal institution. But not here and not now.

      I would rather be deep-fried in peanut oil than be tried before a modern multikulti jury.

      Many years ago, as a young law student working in Legal Aid, I remember helping to defend a client who recognized two of his former cellmates on the jury.

      Members of the jury pool are drawn willy-nilly from driver’s license or voting lists, and in practice no real checks are made to ensure that the people in the pool –– and those counted off to serve in voir dire –– are not senile, stupid, psychotic, deaf, semi-illiterate, racists, illegal aliens, or themselves criminals or lawyers. Some cannot understand proper English and are illiterate even in their own native languages. Most lack basic competence to understand simple technical, scientific, business, or financial evidence. They cannot comprehend large numbers, and award unreasonable sums as civil damages. They are completely unpredictable.

      Mind you, these are the same people who elect our governments. Most of them have inhaled the Liberal Death Wish until their brains are scrambled.

      • Who Me?

        One of my late aunts was called for jury duty. Her daughter, my cousin, called the office to explain to them that her mother was suffering from advanced Alzheimer’s disease and was in a nursing home, bedridden. The idiot at the office told Cousin that Aunt would have to sign a form to be excused from jury duty. It made no difference that the poor woman was non compos mentis and couldn’t sign anything, could no longer write, as a matter of fact. I’m not sure what my cousin eventually did, but my aunt has since passed on so the only thing she’ll be doing in the future is voting Democrat. (Something she NEVER did while living.)

  • John K

    The insanity plea is a common tactic of black murderers. The average IQ of the common black is 70-80, so wouldn’t that make them all retarded? It’s like telling us we can’t execute them because they’re all stupid.

    • Petronius

      “The average IQ of the common black is 70-80….”

      I have always suspected that blacks function much better at a low IQ level than whites or Asians do at the same level.

      • Grantland

        Their brains are wired differently – they are genetically fundamentally different. They are good at languages and excellent mimics. It is very easy to be fooled by a well-dressed black using buzzwords and jargon like “macroeconomic stability” and “holistic approach” in apparent context when the creature really has no idea of what those words actually mean.

        • itdoesnotmatter

          If one listens closely, it becomes clear the multi-syllabic words so glibly thrown around are, in reality, malapropisms.

          • Grantland

            “Dr. Solomon Intelligence, the Tanzanian Finance Minister, today announced that his Ministry would be focusing on a new paradigm where macroeconomic stability would be part-and-parcel of a holistic approach to a solution of the grievous socioeconomic legacies of colonialism.

            Global investors were greatly reassured.”

          • itdoesnotmatter

            Grant, I posted a response to you. It is held up in moderation, do not know why.

      • FransSusan

        How so?

        • Petronius

          Low IQ whites or Asians (say, 70-80 IQ) will immediately strike us as mentally impaired. They’re obviously struggling. Whereas blacks in the same IQ range may appear to be functioning normally (for blacks).

    • itdoesnotmatter

      Of late, the real crime shows have been airing programs featuring blacks wrongfully accused [by evil Whites] of crimes. In some cases sentenced to death.
      The picture “L.A. Confidential,” aired over the weekend, though well done, inserts this plot device as well; a trio of blacks are bullied into a confession for crimes committed by the corrupt Los Angeles police in cahoots with the porn industry.
      For this reason, and the presence of non-actress Kim Basinger, it is not worth watching.
      All media, across the board, cannot stop telling us how evil we are.

    • Murderers should be asked to explain why they did it. If my ex-father came to my home to “visit” us, the first one of us to open the door would kill him in half. I hope it would be me, as at age 47 my mother has remarked on the growth of my arms and shoulders. I’d open the door, pull him inside, and he’d never get out: we have two bathtubs and a self-cleaning oven.

      In my original federal case, against him, I explained everything. If I ever get my hands on my ex-father, I would be happy to explain everything later, so long as nobody tried to interfere while I was doing it.

      I explained everything in federal court long ago. No warnings from me now.

      • Who Me?

        “Kill him in half”??? Sounds interesting.

  • Simonetta

    Gee, kidnap, rape, beat, torture, and kill a bunch of strangers and you are executed if have an IQ of 76 or more. Have an IQ of 72 or so less and you get to live a long life rent free with free food and medical care.

    So how hard would it be to ‘fake’ a moron’s IQ and fool a bunch of white doctors? Especially when you’re floating a few points above to cut-off line anyway.

    Get ready for a hundred thousand new retards in the prison system.

    And yes, just kill this monster already. And all the other monsters too once you get a good rhythm going.

  • willbest

    Shouldn’t this also apply to voting?

    If you are 70 and below you don’t have the right to vote because you are not accountable for your actions.

    If you are 71-76 you are presumed to not be accountable for your actions and are unable to vote unless you prove that you are.

  • IstvanIN

    There are good hearted retarded people who wouldn’t hurt a fly. If a retarded person is evil and unable to know the difference between right and wrong, why keep them alive? They can not be rehabilitated, right?

    • Reverend Bacon

      I wrote in the Daily Mail a comment that was completely censored. I pointed out that if a dog (IQ clearly less than 70) mauled someone, it would be put down. And if someone with a very high IQ was a sociopathic murderer, he too would be put down. But now we’re saying that somewhere in the middle, there exists a certain intellect whereby if a person with that intellect commits murder, he gets a free pass on being put down?

    • Sloppo

      I’m tempted to get really sarcastic and say that “stupidity is a precious resource which we can’t afford to waste”, but that’s too similar to what the propaganda networks are telling us all the time and someone might think I’m serious.

  • GeneticsareDestiny

    So when it comes to employers administering IQ tests, that’s racist because IQ doesn’t matter and has a disparate impact on blacks.

    But IQ suddenly matters a lot when it comes to saving black murderers from death row?

    Do liberals even hear themselves talk?

    • Reverend Bacon

      See Larry P vs. Riles in California. After this landmark case in the 70’s, it became illegal to characterize a black as retarded (or whatever the PC term for that was in the 70’s) on the basis of IQ tests.

      So it’s even worse than you think.

  • dd121

    One out of four blacks has an IQ 75 or lower. A quick look at the IQ bell curve will verify that. It’s also ironic that liberals deny the existence of IQ yet want to use it to justify sparing their black wards from execution.

    • FransSusan

      Yet more than 1/4 of the race is dysfunctional.

  • Germanicus

    Bingo. Take it out of the realm of moral judgment and make it one one simple, behavioral objectivity: is the person a threat to other innocent people if let loose? In fact, I am coming to the point where I would accept a ban on the death penalty. The death penalty introduces a dimension that causes many to hesitate to see justice served in fear of erring or even of taking a life. Okay. But then we do need an aggressive system of incarceration. More prisons, not less. And we also need to have more mental.institutions for humanly caring for the non-criminal mentally disturbed. Notice, I am not even committing myself (haha, I am.anticipating some wise guy’s retort) to calling these things mental.”illnesses.” Like with criminals, we avoid the hand written going over IQ 70 or 71, culpability, the dawn of reason… We just jump right to saying, “You know, you cause too many problems–for whatever reason we don’t know nor can we know–so you need to be separated from us so we can get on with the business and responsibilities of life and civilization.”

    • John

      ” In fact, I am coming to the point where I would accept a ban on the death penalty.” As am I but for different reasons. I must be too empathetic but since the advent of DNA testing and we see so many people that were found guilty have been proved innocent when the case was looked at again, I’m basically opposed to the death penalty as currently used. I can see myself wrongly accused and convicted of some BS due to circumstantial evidence alone. Nowadays, you have the media doing a pre-trial as in the Zimmerman case as well. Only, and only when the crime been proven beyond the shadow of a doubt and warrants it, should death be sentenced. Even when warranted, if there’s any aspect of circumstantial evidence having carried the day, the death penalty should be disallowed. Once they’re dead, and found innocent, what can you do? For crimes serious but of a lesser nature than murder, more draconian punishment. For example, a pedophile, physical castration, subject to the criteria above.

      • Germanicus

        Very reasonably argued. I remember reading Grisham’s novel, The Innocent Man, about a former ball player from some little town in Oklahoma. This guy was convicted on circumstantial evidence and spent years on death row before being exonerated. I agree, there are too many crazies out there with no notion of right and wrong but who are guided by PC codes, turn-your-neighbor-in suspiciousness, and ever morphing Zeitgeists that are nothing other than cynical prongs of an aggressive war on Western man. it is so easy to imagine getting convicted based on flimsy accusations, especially if you have committed the pre-crime of being rational about race and public policy.

        • John

          Many of the posters here, myself included, would be lynched by a mixed race jury if we were ever tried. The thought crime police will be hard at work in a courtroom near you in the near future. I’ve said a lot of very politically incorrect things here and there and I’m not the least bit apologetic about it. I don’t expect to be either. I go out of my way to be as law abiding a model citizen as humanly possible. Anything else, can lead to a world of grief that I’m not interested in dealing with. I may push the envelope as far as comments on knee-grows and the tribe, but as long as the Constitution is still given some lip service, I’ll continue to exercise my rights. Which includes the seeking out of like minded individuals and recruiting them to that philosophy.

          • Germanicus

            Yes, pushing the enevelope is good. It is really the duty of every one of us. It is rather fun if you like games of strategy and wit. In certain delicate environments, it requires patient and long-term preparation of the field of action first. Righto on walking the tight line on all else. Because I am so committed to what I am doing in the cultural war, I cannot afford to be going to biker bars for kicks or taking all sorts of risks “hitting on” women just because they seem available and interested. There are too many headaches and potential for pitfalls when you are politically active. Besides, I have an active spiritual life that enables me to bear the tradeoff.

      • Who Me?

        Many studies have shown that pedophiles can’t be “cured” or whatever you want to call the eradication of abnormal sexual desire for children. Also many pedophiles also revel in torturing and killing their victims. I don’t really see castration as a way to fix that. They wouldn’t be able to rape their victims, but they could still do other harm, and the desire would still be there. You would have to remove their hands and render them immobile for that. (Not that I consider that any great moral problem, but others might!)

        • John

          Castration would send their testosterone levels to the basement. They wouldn’t/ couldn’t get aroused without. Known biological fact. Ask any man in his 60s or so. If they’re frank they’ll fess up. If the desire isn’t there mentally, a candy dish full of viagra or cialis is just as much use as a dish of candy for all the effect it would have physiologically. Throw in the hands too for these type crimes, by all means. When I said draconian, I was serious.

          • I’m 47 and my wife and I make love three times every day: once in the morning and twice each night. We also take showers together. I suspect that if someone castrated me and then allowed me to live, I would become a serial killer.

          • John

            Mid 40’s, that all sounds about right. Give your self about 15 years and then report back.

          • I will always have to do so. The field first once said I was the best man in the company.

        • FransSusan

          If you remove too many of their appendages, they’d need nursing home care at taxpayers’ expense.

  • Germanicus

    Everyone can become a saint by responding, with grace, properly to the hand they were dealt. Maybe being in prison is God giving them a great opportunity of acceptance given the hard ba d they we’re dealt. that is a better way of responding than fighting for a fse freedom and then raping, stealing and killing again.

    • When I was in federal prison, it was because I was cheated out of $625 thousand. There are no words in any language for the level of hate I still feel, 15 years later. I’ve been out 12 years, off paper for seven years, and it all still feels like yesterday.

      • Germanicus

        As I sat in a.restaurnt, I was writing an overly long reply to your comment. The power in my phone when out. You were spared. If I can come up with a.cogent and shorter one com arrow, I will take a stab at it.

        • I haven’t had a restaurant meal since April 2013, and I have never owned a laptop. Go for it; I’ll be here.

          • Germanicus


  • Germanicus

    Did I notice Justice Kagan using the term “retarded?”

    • Alexandra1973

      You should see census records from the mid-19th century. Terms like “idiot” and “moron” were actually used.

  • Person of Whiteness

    “Your results on this IQ test are a matter of life or death. Score low if you want to live.”

    “So should I pick the right answers or the wrong answers?”

    “If you have to ask, you’ll be fine.”

    • What happens if I pick all the right answers and then fight like an orc: all day and all night for half a week?

      I am not Harrison Bergeron. I don’t look like much more than the guy next door.

  • WR_the_realist

    That was just one judge, Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes, Jr.

    But yeah, I long for the day when we can have judges like that again.

  • WR_the_realist

    It seems to me that a person who murders because he’s too stupid to know any better is actually more dangerous than somebody who murders but knew at the time that what he was doing was wrong. So I fail to see why being stupid should spare you from the death penalty.

  • Who Me?

    I’ve known a few people who were, for lack of better terms, “functional but retarded”. Meaning they could manage on their own enough to work at a menial job, cash their check, pay their rent, buy food and clothing, and enjoy a movie or TV show. They didn’t contribute very much to the overall society, but they didn’t take very much either. They would have never dreamed of hurting anyone, even if they could have been gotten worked up into a rage, which I doubt, too. If one of them were to actually kill someone, putting them down would be a kindness, not a punishment. Warehousing the criminally insane is insanity in and of itself. Humanely remove them for the good of themselves and everyone else. Violent offenders who do not know that they are doing wrong cannot be fixed and imprisoning them is inhumane.

    • FransSusan

      IQ shouldn’t matter. He’s a violent murderer. He deserves to die. I don’t care what the rationalization is. He deserves death.

  • Who Me?

    If they are defective AND dangerous, euthanasia is really the only answer. They can’t be let out for the greater good of society, and there’s always the chance that they might escape. It isn’t right to lock them up for something they can’t comprehend as being wrong. It is unproductive, plus it’s expensive, too.

  • Brian

    The Supreme Court indicated Monday that states should look beyond an
    intelligence test score in borderline cases of mental disability to
    determine whether a death row inmate is eligible to be executed.
    This sounds like what they doing to destroy the quality of university admissions. SAT/ACT ‘unduly rewards’ whites and Asians and people of economic privilege, and we can’t have that…have to close that pesky achievement gap. So, perhaps in executions we should ditch the IQ tests, and go with a blend of affirmative action, ‘why I don’t want to be executed’ essays, prison extracurricular activities and ‘leadership experience’.

    Or…we could have all the murderers sit a spell in Ol’ Sparky and let God sort them out.

  • DudeWheresMyCountry?

    So according to the wise people in power, you can use IQ to determine if a criminal lives or dies but to ulitilize it in education is an intolerable act of treachery?? You can’t have it both ways. In one way I hope this case wins out; yes many troglodites will avoid the chair and feed on the people for decades but it will set an IQ precedent and smart lawyers can challenge other limits put on IQ testing and results.

  • MarcB1969

    Isn’t IQ just an arbitrary and culturally biased way to determine cognitive ability? If that is the case, we should show these murderers the proper respect for their high level of “emotional intelligence” and send them to onward to meet their Maker. I’d hate to insult their smarts by commuting their sentence.

    Here is another example of when the Left likes to pick choose when IQ is a valid measure if intelligence and when it is not…

  • Has my mother been telling about the tomatoes again?

  • My ex-father beat up women and children because he liked it. I am forbidden firearms and ammunition because of my standing up for my mother and myself. I hate him enough for 30 or 40 lifetimes. His violence against my mother poisoned me.

  • Germanicus

    I had not followed the idea to that stage, but you did. It is an interesting thought, indeed. It would require a completely fresh way of thinking about education. Let’s begin with the premise that people are each adapted, more or less, to some environment and some economic activity. Let’s put aside, for now, those cases of individuals that have developed profound mental disorders or those that have become criminals refractory to reform. Then, call them what you will, but our schools must be understood as places where the potential of individuals are rationally developed. But for this development to proceed rationally, it must involve honest assessment as the child and young adult’s talents progress. Some of this was well understood, so yes, we must re-invent the wheel, unfortunately. It must be reinvented because we permitted the complete takeover of education by Marxists and even by conservatives imbued unwittingly with Marxist errors. A worthy task for some practical scholar would be resurrecting the literature that can be found and intelligently placing it at the disposal of the society that must reform from this mess so to lessen the need of re-invention. Of course, we all understand the pitfall of a child being misidentified and tracked in the wrong direction. Good teachers and their institutions recognize the inability of any teacher, no matter how talented, to get it wrong for some students with whom they interact. It is an interaction after all, and every teacher will have his or her blind spots. There are ways to handle this, and it is to expose the child, of course, to a variety of different teachers. Returning to the major theme, as the talents of students are given an opportunity to emerge, it will be seen that they tend indifferent directions. Unfortunately, too little opportunity is presently available for craftsmen or laborers in a consumerist society where tastes have been so dulled as to accept machine produced goods and corporatized markets. There is nothing inherently “free market” about any of how this was accomplished. But, we will have to resist the temptation to digress. In a sense, the term “vocational school” was euphemistically misused. Every educational institution, the early grades through high school, should be about launching a student into his proper station in life. Each station is a good stationis adapted to his talents. None of us ever fit perfectly, perhaps, regardless of our degree if satisfaction or not. And every race categorization has its subcategories of talents and bell curve phenomena. There could be no adaptive radiation into new environments if this diversity in the gene pool did not exist. This is one of those proper uses if the concept of genetic diversity. There must also be recognized, if we recognize genetic diversity, a notion of genetic constancy. Indeed, it is the idea that some genetic hardware is evolutionarily conserved. That is a sentence long mouthful though. It would do well to talk of genetic diversity and conservatism as paired principles that are co-active in biological populations. The academic Marxists seized upon “diversity” to the exclusion of stable genetic expressions into phenotypic interactions with the environment. This partly due to the biologists involved, sure, but there were plenty of biologists that once thought clearly before the purge. The cultural Marxism came in not through the overwhelming power of arguments in formal papers, but through hiring, politically directed awards such as a certain well-known one from an institute in a certain country with reindeer, and many other prizes, of course. These honors give “right-thinking” professors asymmetric power and influence within their institutions, in the governments of their home countries, and in society at large. People who participate here at AR know all of this, but it bears repeating in context. So, in a stable society we have people placed channeled into work that fits their constellation of talents and personality traits. In this way, all schools are vocational, even schools for gifted students of mathematics, because these schools prepare their students to creatively participate in society and is edification. In the case of individuals with low intelligence, society can assust them in an respectful and comossionare manner to contribute to the common good. If more serious lacking in intelligence, institutionalisation in co.passionate environments are fitting. We went through a period of de-institutionalization following the book and movie, One we Over the Cuckoo’s Nest. It was not good for the people poured in to the streets and under the bridges. The cultural Marxists and their progenitors insidiously turned some things upside down with the relatively recent help of marxo-capitalists. They succeeded in making it “all about me and my fulfillment” and they also succeeded in twisting our common effort against a sometimes unfriendly environment, disease, sometimes unyielding nature, and the dufficult realities of entropy, into a war against each other. It is classic divide and conquer. The traditionalist working for stable, but developing, societies that are just and compassionate were thwarted. It is the Marxists who recognized that some human traits and conditions could be mapped with some correspondence to race. They exploited this along with the inevitable and regrettable injustices that can be found in any faur account of history to foment discontent. This subversive behavior must be countered. Tactics similar to those od Saul Alinsky should be turned on such subversives. Identify them. Isolate them. Discredit them. Neutralize them. These are the Destabilizers. The truth is that they are no friends if Black people. In every real sense of the word, it us they who hate Black people. It is the Democrats that internally strategized that they could retain power indefinitely by keeping the black man forever at a disadvantage while effectively duping him that it was the Republicans (contrary to real history) that once offered the black man the most opportunity in an affirmative-action free social environment. I understand the anger that is expressed here and experience it keenly myself. The evil done, and thus the appropriate targets of such anger, are people who orchestrated this social instability and–in many places already manifested–the coming mayhem if left unaddressed.

  • FransSusan

    I hope you’re right. The history we’ve been taught has been inaccurate about so many things: the cause of the civil war, for example, and Lincoln’s sainthood. I don’t anticipate that what’s going on now will be reported accurately either. Somehow whites will be blamed for everything.