Anaheim Residents Push for Councilwoman to Resign After Comments

Adolfo Flores, Los Angeles Times, March 26, 2014

An Anaheim councilwoman is being asked to resign following her online remarks that the fatal police shooting of a 21-year-old man had “saved us a trial.”

Lucille Kring, who is running for mayor in the resort city, quickly apologized for her comments, but some residents said it was too late and urged her to step down instead.

The relationship between police and residents in the densely packed core of Orange County’s largest city has been strained for years and came to a head in the summer of 2012 when a series of shootings ignited days of street protests and angry demonstrations.

Last Thursday, Robert Moreno Jr., 21, was fatally shot by officers following a police chase. Authorities said Moreno had fired at officers and injured a police dog, Bruno.

“The shooting saved us a trial. Always a good outcome,” Councilwoman Kring wrote on an online thread for residents of the city’s Colony District. {snip}

The fatal police shooting, as well as Kring’s remarks, drew dozens of residents Tuesday to the Anaheim council meeting.

Before the public comments portion of the meeting, Kring read a statement apologizing again for what she wrote.

“The loss of a human life is always a tragedy. He was someone’s son, maybe an uncle, brother, father,” Kring said. “I apologize unreservedly for my statement and I hope you will forgive me and I do retract the statement I made earlier.”

Her apology was met with shouts of “too late” from some members of the audience.

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Moreno had a history of evading police, according to Orange County court records. In 2010 Moreno was sentenced to 30 days in county jail and three years’ probation for failing to register as a gang member. The following year he was sentenced to four years in state prison for multiple felony charges, including vehicle theft, possession of a controlled substance, evading an officer and battery on an officer.

His uncle, Max Figueroa, 30, of Santa Ana, said Kring’s comments were disrespectful and upset his family.

“What’s wrong with her?” Figueroa said. “She doesn’t give a damn about a life.”

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  • Puggg

    What’s incorrect about her statement?

    • IstvanIN

      The truth isn’t allowed.

      • Paleoconn

        She said what everybody is thinking, but apparently wishing ill of a criminal when that criminal is non-White is criminal.

    • JohnEngelman

      In the Star Chamber of Political Correctness, truth is no defense. Indeed, the more truthful one’s statement is, the more serious is the offense, and the more severe is the punishment.

      • Some of these folks need to double-down on their politically-incorrect statements, rather than grovelling. Apologizing to these pompous Marxists never does any good, so why bother?

  • D.B. Cooper

    She’s got my vote!

  • MekongDelta69

    “What’s wrong with her?” [Uncle Max] Figueroa said. “She doesn’t give a damn about a life.”

    Really Max?
    So the fact that he was shooting at cops is completely irrelevant to you, huh?

    • Sick of it

      They always stick with their own. Who cares about petty details like attempted murder, grand larceny, or torturing little children to death?

  • So CAL Snowman

    “His uncle, Max Figueroa, 30, of Santa Ana, said Kring’s comments were disrespectful and upset his family. “What’s wrong with her?” Figueroa said. “She doesn’t give a damn about a life.”

    You have to just stand in awe of the cognitive dissonance of brown people. Here we have a gang banging, lowlife mexican punk shooting at cops and wounding a police dog, and the uncle of the thug is accusing the councilwoman of not giving a damn about a life? I would ask the family of the thug, ‘What is wrong with you people?”

    This whole thing where politicians say “the loss of a human life is always a tragedy” is such liberal feel good nonsense. How is the loss of a gangbanging thug a tragedy? These sick people are their hyperbole. EVERYTHING is a tragedy. I say good riddance.

    • Einsatzgrenadier

      The death of mestizo and black thugs is always cause for celebration. Less crime, less drug use, less sexually transmitted disease, less out-of-wedlock pregnancies, less taxpayer dollars wasted on incarcerating these thugs and giving them three square a day, and on and on it goes. There’s nothing tragic about any of this. The crime problem is just solving itself, no expensive government intervention required.

      • Zaporizhian Sich

        Indeed, the death of a darkie invader is just another small victory for white Americans.

  • Luca

    Sounds like uncle Max just wants a few pesos.

    • r j p

      Barrio lottery?

  • TXCriollo

    Police chase key word libs never seem to get those

  • leftists are delusional

    It’s not a tragedy when a scum bag gets himself killed, and it saved the community a trial and the state many years of supporting another inmate.

    Good riddance!

  • dd121

    Only liberals would fake outrage over a verifiably true statement. “He was someone’s son, maybe an uncle, brother, father,”. He was also potentially someone’s murderer, rapist, robber, mugger. Just why is it we’re supposed to feel sorry for him?

  • JohnEngelman

    Last Thursday, Robert Moreno Jr., 21, was fatally shot by officers following a police chase. Authorities said Moreno had fired at officers and injured a police dog, Bruno…

    “The loss of a human life is always a tragedy. He was someone’s son, maybe an uncle, brother, father,” Kring said. “I apologize unreservedly for my statement and I hope you will forgive me and I do retract the statement I made earlier.”

    – Adolfo Flores, Los Angeles Times, March 26, 2014

    At the age of 21 there is a reasonably good chance that Robert Moreno has several illegitimate children on welfare that he did nothing to support.

  • NotTooSwift

    I truly believe Councilwoman Kring’s statement was quite inappropriate.

    IMHO, she should have commended the police officers for their excellent marksmanship. Fortunately, Mr. Moreno’s aim was not quite up to par when he fired at police officers. Unfortunately, one of the rounds he fired struck Bruno, the K-9.

    Regarding Kring’s MORE inappropriate groveling apologetic statement, “He was someone’s son, maybe an uncle, brother, father,” Kring said. “I apologize unreservedly for my statement and I hope you will forgive me and I do retract the statement I made earlier”, bothered me. Why? The same could have been about Bruno. BTW, who would you trust more with your family? Bruno or Robert Moreno Jr.?

    I rest my case.

  • Tarczan

    Well, if this guy had spent six months in a hospital, been confined to a wheelchair for life, and then sent to prison for thirty years, how much would that have cost the taxpayers? The lady was right.

  • Who Me?

    “I apologize unreservedly for my statement and I hope you will forgive me and I do retract the statement I made earlier.”

    THIS is why we “can’t have an honest conversation about race”. Are you listening, Mr. Holder? Anybody who does accidentally happen to slip and utter an honest sentence or two is immediately vilified and crucified in the public eye. Odds are she will not get re-elected this time around, and she will go down in history as “just another rayciss cracka”.

  • John K

    ““The loss of a human life is always a tragedy. He was someone’s son, maybe an uncle, brother, father,” Kring said. “I apologize unreservedly for my statement and I hope you will forgive me and I do retract the statement I made earlier.””

    And there lies the true problem: the constant apologies to liberals and thugs. This supposed son/ uncle/ brother/ father probably wouldn’t have hesitated to run down a father/ son/ uncle/ brother in order to escape the police. Liberals don’t need an apology, they need to be told to shut the hell up. It’s only offensive if you can’t handle the truth.

    Here’s a tip: don’t commit crime, and the police won’t have to come after you.

  • Romulus

    Saw this on the news this morning. Bruno ( a handsome GERMAN Shepperd) will make a full recovery. Maybe the PETA trash you back up Kring, eh?
    Not likely. Only a coward, would bend over for these invaders.

    • LHathaway

      I didn’t understand your post/statement. I understood the first two sentences but I’m completely clueless on the rest (gotta catch up with current events I guess)? I’m a bit short of sleep, and confused in general right now, I must admit.

      • Romulus

        Yes, I’m sorry. I was so tired when I posted this , I forgot to edit. You know how it is. Missing the right keys and so forth.
        The story centered only around what she said, instead of what the squat monster did.
        Makes me so mad, I want to freak out. Of course, not a peep from animal rights activists as far as I’ve heard.

        • MBlanc46

          I can’t speak for PETA, but as someone who tends to prefer quadrupeds to humans, it was the shooting of the dog that really peed me off.

          • Romulus

            I love shepherds! That was what really angered me. I expected the vitriolic hypocrisy of the left. I gave a cop friend of mine a generous donation so that he could put it towards kevlar vests for the K9 unit.
            Selflessly, “man’s best friend” gives fielty. The least I can do is to help provide them with some protection from bad guys.

          • MBlanc46

            I pretty much love them all. I presume that this cockroach was actually trying to shoot the dog, but hit it by mistake. Fortunately, he died and the dog didn’t.

          • Cops almost always shoot other people’s dogs: everything from big, potentially dangerous ones who don’t know what’s going on when strangers kick the door down to little rope-rats who wouldn’t scare a rabbit.

          • MBlanc46

            I’m not at all surprised. I assume it’s part of that “We are the law” attitude that so many of them have.

        • LHathaway

          I get it. . a little sleep on my part helps.

  • PvtCharlieSlate

    Just for once, I would love to hear anyone, in a situation similar to this woman’s, answer with “T.S., Wantwit. I meant what I said; I said what I meant! Deal with it – somewhere else”.

  • r j p

    Lucille Kring wasn’t strong enough in her statement, this was a blessing.
    Robert Moreno Jr was human garbage.

  • LHathaway

    Her statement was just an admission of ‘what I feared’. I was starting to notice, in these ‘standoff cases’ more and more the perp seems to be shot dead every time. Even if they haven’t murdered.

    Perhaps it’s like a news version of the TV show ‘Cops’. If the criminal gets away, it doesn’t make it onto the Cops episode.

    The statement in the article that got me was this,

    “The relationship between police and residents. . . ”

    When do I get to have ‘relations’ with the mayor and police (let alone my own racial ‘neighborhood)’?
    This line could have come out of any paper in any city in the Western world. Even after violent revolution, whites haven’t had ‘relations’ with police and mayors. Even after the move violent ‘revolution’. . .
    This is what it will ALWAYS be about, once you let them in your country.
    It will ALWAYS, ALWAYS, ALWAYS be about them, until the day all involved die, from the day you are born until the day everyone involved has died, and then likely so even after then.
    EVEN ON AMREN . . . It is ALWAYS about them. Read the comments.
    It will ALWAYS be about them. . . even after you are gone. . . .
    once you let them in your country.

    • MBlanc46

      It’s because they’re a “community” and we’re not.

  • Greg Thomas

    An “uncle” at 21?

    • IstvanIN

      Sure, why not? My father’s youngest sister was 7 when I was born.

      • Katherine McChesney

        My Mothers baby sister was a year and a half when I was born.

        • dcc2379

          Tsk, tsk, many of you miss the point. Robert’s mother is probably 32 and her youngest daughter is expecting before the end of her school year and she moves on to middle school.

  • MBlanc46

    It’s just as well that she’s crashed and burn. There’s no political future for anyone who occasionally blurts out the truth.

  • Alexandra1973

    What did she say that wasn’t true?

    I don’t care if some criminal was a father, brother, uncle, whatever…typical liberal, appealing to emotion. If some relative of mine was involved in crime I’d be ashamed of them.

  • The only losers here are defense lawyers and violent criminals.

  • I always wait with the interior light on and my wrists on top of the steering wheel. They can run an NCIC check on their computer, so they know what I once was. I am careful because they could shoot me and it would always be called “good”. I have a family that needs me, so being put down like a bad dog seems sub-optimal.

  • 2eRep

    I too am a fiscal conservative and laud this woman’s good financial sense.

  • Her mistake was apologizing.

  • NoMosqueHere

    Quote: The relationship between police and residents in the densely packed core of Orange County’s largest city has been strained for years and came to a head in the summer of 2012 when a series of shootings ignited days of street protests and angry demonstrations.

    ——————————————————

    If Anaheim’s “densely packed core” was predominately white I doubt the “relationship between police and residents” would spur shootings and “angry demonstrations.” Just another sad story in the age of diversity.

  • Zaporizhian Sich

    She was telling the truth. The death of a criminal, especially a criminal darkie or illegal alien spares the community of the expense of a trial. It prevents the community from having to feed and clothe him in prison. It saves the lives of police officers, saves the lives of whites, saves medical expenses, legal expenses, prevents the loss of property, wages and higher taxes. Good for her for bucking political correctness.

    • Exactly! Don’t shoot at the cops; they are just regular guys doing their job. When I was arrested, the FBI agents were pretty nice about it. They said they expected to lose six to eight agents if they kicked down my door, so they had me drive to their office to self-surrender. They also drove my car back to the house, rather than having it towed to the county impound lot.

      • dcc2379

        She was just applauding that the cops made the violent felon, Robert Moreno, someone probably on probation, parole, and in and out of juvie his whole life, holy. 🙂

        • Moreno probably wasn’t very smart, had no self-discipline and compensated for this by trying to be a [email protected]$$. That’s common. Eventually society gets sick of these thugs, though, and shooting at cops is really just an ugly way of committing suicide. He had already been sentenced for assaulting another policeman in 2010.

          I always cooperate with police, in part because I understand that there is no point in making things worse. My last arrest was December 16, 2011 because someone at the local DA’s office made a mistake. The BATF got involved because I used to be a gun collector. I had been doing nothing wrong and was able to talk them out of sending the bomb squad to my home with a tech and a robot. My old reputation would apparently have made the Waffen SS puke. They were pleasant enough and I got the state charges dismissed. After a two-year grand-jury investigation, the feds appear to have decided to charge me with absolutely nothing.

          A rational fellow wouldn’t have shot at the cops. A lot of this stuff can be sorted out.

  • Paleo

    Those who fail to slap themselves for even thinking flagrant politically incorrect thoughts about any race other than whites must be penalized and made an example. If left to the race-baiter mob, which is abundantly obvious by the coached overreaction to a nothing remark, they would hang the woman and give the murderers the keys to the city. You see, whites are always to blame, even when it’s telling the truth about a felon who just happens to be a sacred cow race.