Younger, Sicker, Less Educated: First Census into Britain’s Gypsy Population

Matthew Holehouse, Telegraph (London), January 21, 2014

Gypsies and Irish travellers are the least healthy, least educated and least economically active of any ethnic group, the first census of the group has found.

The country’s gypsy and traveller population is younger than the rest of the population and more likely to have children, the first official study has found.

Contrary to popular myth, nearly two-thirds live in houses while just a quarter live in caravans.

A tick-box for gypsies and travellers appeared on the census for the first time in 2011, after being recognised as a distinct ethnic group under the Equality Act 2010. Many state agencies regard the community as marginalised, who as a result suffer from poor health and education.

The census found the gypsy population is significantly younger than the rest of the population. The average age of gypsies and travellers is 26, compared to a national average of 39. Around 39 per cent of the population is under 20, compared to 24 per cent for the entire population.

The group is the worst educated of any ethnicity, with 60 per cent of adults having no qualifications, against 23 per cent for the rest of the population. Among the over 65s, 84 per cent have no qualifications, compared to 53 per cent for the rest of the older population.

It also has the lowest levels of people in work of any ethnic group at 47 per cent, compared to 63 per cent for the entire population and 49 per cent for Arabs, the second lowest group. Twenty per cent are listed as unemployed, compared to 7 per cent for the entire population.

Health is frequently linked by experts to being in work, and the census found gypsies and travellers have the worst health of any ethnic group. Despite being far younger than the rest of the population, some 70 per cent said their health was good or very good, compared to 81 per cent for the population as a whole. Some 14 per cent said their health was bad or very bad, compared to 6 per cent for the rest of the population.

The proportion of lone parents against all family types is 24 per cent, compared to 11 per cent for the entire population. And 45 per cent of gypsy and traveller families have dependent children, compared to 29 per cent of the rest of the country.

Most gypsies and travellers – some 61 per cent – live in houses or bungalows, and 15 per cent live in flats, while just 24 per cent live in caravans or mobile homes. Just 0.3 per cent, or one family in three hundred, from the rest of the population live in temporary structures.

The census found 58,000 people calling themselves gypsies or travellers, although unofficial estimates have put the population as high as 300,000. The group has been historically wary of being included in official data sets, the Office for National Statistics said.

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  • M.

    A bunch of third-worlders in a nutshell.

    The problem is that they’re not European, and they will never be. They don’t have European DNA. They have been roaming Europe since the Middle Ages, and they’re still acting third-worldy.

    Gypsies are the living proof that (big numbers of) non-Europeans will never be able to integrate in Western countries.

    • rightrightright

      Gypsies are from India.

  • Spartacus

    Why put gypsies and Irish travelers in the same category ? They are NOT the same thing…

    • It’s an attempt at upholding the irrational leftist belief that a group’s failure is a result of socioeconomic stature due to outside forces, instead of the reality, which is that socioeconomic stature is an indication of a group’s inborn limitations.

      • Spartacus

        I’ve watched a few documentaries about the Irish travellers, and they are nothing like gypsies. Gypsies are just a bunch of over-grown cockroaches, while the Irish Travellers are Whites, just like you or I .

        • NeanderthalDNA

          Eh…maybe not JUST like…

          They do go into construction around here as well and are notorious for the “work” they do.

          Yeah sure, preferable to Roma, but…yeah they’re…White. Yep.

          • Spartacus

            You should take a look at this :

            http://www(DOT)youtube(DOT)com/watch?v=vh-ycjfZYlg

            Irish travellers are thousands of years ahead of gypsies….

          • NeanderthalDNA

            Yeah I’ll check that out and I’m not putting them anywhere near the Roma, but I dated one some years back and uh…

            They are some of our more interesting folk, I’ll say…clever in their fashion. They pack a punch too…

          • NeanderthalDNA

            Case in point – Tyson Fury…

            I’d never disparage the Irish travellers to this fellow…

            Don’t you love that pic, Sparty?

          • Spartacus

            Beautiful !

          • NeanderthalDNA

            Yeah! I kind of have his body type but ol’ Tyson’s got 6 inches on me in height and could pulverize me.

            This peckerwood rocks.

            Who the hell thumbs you down? I’ll pulverize ’em! Or sick Tyson Fury on em! (LOL)

          • LACounty

            Tyson’s 19 yr old cousin is doing very well, 12-0. They’re both trained by Tyson’s father I believe.

          • NeanderthalDNA

            Yeah, they’re the real deal.

            Tyson has an amazing reach. One would have to get in under those long wings of his and really punish him with body blows for a long time to take him out.

            Of course he’s pretty mobile for a big boy and can take some damage, so easier said than done. He’s undefeated. 21-0 with 15 knockouts.

            Go White boy!

          • NeanderthalDNA

            Eh..Wikipedia can be a funny thing. There is a note warning that the article on Mr. Fury has some style issues. After reading the thing in its entirety I think I found some instances of Irish (traveler) humor…

            “Tyson is distantly related to business management entrepenuer John Wright. Wright became famous back in 2010 after taking part in many strange incidents such as emailing an ex partner (believed to be named, Anne Mirkovic) but then denying such email was meant for her. It was soon after this that Wrights lawyer, Brandon Robertson, also became caught up in a media heat wave. After failing miserably to remove his under wear (many sight that this was because he was hiding his shame at being up against Jamie Cameron), Robertson has since left the law industry behind and is now pursuing a career in panto – Stig of the Dump is due to be show cased in arenas across the country.

            Whilst also being a relative of Wright, Fury also has ties to the Doherty clan. The most famous export of this disfunctional family is Christy aka The Crow. His nickname derives from the fact that he can often be found lurking on the roof tops of night clubs whilst asking members of the public for a rusty trumbone. Christy Doherty has recently decided against social networking after being publicly shamed by Jessica Sheeply, an under cover reporter who undressed the crow to the public. After this humilition, it is believed that the crow got in touch with Austin Powers in order to purchase his Swedish penis enlarger.”

            Hee hee…ha ha! Gotta love the Irish! Yeah, that’s the Irish Traveler folk I’m familiar with…

        • saxonsun

          They’re still scum. Your idea that if the person is white–or your definition of white–he/she can’t be evil, is sick.

          • Spartacus

            I didn’t say that, don’t put words in my mouth.

            I said they were White, and A LOT better than gypsies ever will be .

  • NeanderthalDNA

    Lebensunwertes Leben

    Well, life not worth enabling at least.

  • borogirl54

    I saw a show about Irish Travelers in England. Most girls get married at age 16. They have the most outrageous wedding gowns that they can barely walk in. Parents take their daughters out of school around middle school so they can learn to be a housewife, which is their own aspiration in life. Men drop out of school at around the same age. They end up working in construction jobs.

    • HJ11

      Yeah, but the irish Travelers are our people. And, I like the fact that they get married young and have large families. More of our people should follow that model and maybe we’d get our population teeming once again.

      • saxonsun

        I am a white woman who loves her race, but they are NOT MY people just because they have white skin.

        • Katherine McChesney

          I agree. I wouldn’t want to mix with them because of their skin color.

    • fuzzypook

      They do that here in the states. They go around with their “redo your driveway mam for cheap” scam. They charge an old lady some ridiculous amount and all they do is spread some thin black stuff to make it look nice for a minute but is not permanent as is gone after a few rains.

  • bigone4u

    Unhealthy, stupid, uneducated creatures who breed like flies. Who needs em?

  • Evette Coutier

    Let the blacks and gypsy folk have their own nation together. Antarctica is prime for staking a claim without property disputes.

  • NoMosqueHere

    Britain is really getting gypped.

  • Spartacus

    “…their DNA markers are similar to Roma Gypsies.”

    —————————————————————————————

    Never heard of anything like that, and can’t find anything on the internet. Do you have a source ? Because everything I found so far seems to indicate they’re Irish, distinct from the rest of the population, but otherwise Irish :

    http://en(DOT)wikipedia(DOT)org/wiki/Irish_Travellers#Population_genetics

  • NeanderthalDNA

    She had the raven hair and something of the aquiline nose of
    her Peruvian mother, the fair skin and body of her Irish traveler pops. First on either side to go to college, she was the apple of her parents’ eyes, an only child. Pops was a good old fellow, had escaped the clan to some extent, had a nice civil service job that kept him outside where he loved to be. As a result of his relative success vis-à-vis the rest of them he had come to occupy something of a patriarchal role in the clan, a father figure for her wayward cousin, a rock of Gibraltar and arbiter of disputes.

    Once he dolefully recounted the wedding of his nephew. The drinking began before the service – never a good sign. By the time the bride and groom stumbled down the aisle various kin folk were similarly intoxicated and beginning to remember past grievances which would shortly erupt again in Jerry Springeresque glory. When the groom reached in his pocket to extract the wedding band his pot pipe became dislodged, clattering on the floor in plain sight of all. The minister paused to deliver a stern if brief lecture on the seriousness and sanctity of marriage and after tipsy and slurred assurances from the couple that they understood this proceeded to join them in the shackles of holy matrimony.

    After which the real fun began, which of course culminated in a fist fight which my girlfriend’s father, as patriarch and voice of reason, had to break up. My girlfriend had found excuses to not attend, something that initially upset her dad, but which afterward he admitted was a good idea.

    Barely a month later he collapsed one morning over the stove and died of a massive infarction. Big fellow, not the healthiest of eaters. As the clan gathered the wayward cousin fell to the floor in the living room, histrionically wailing in honest if overblown grief. Roseanna, stoic and solid, at the end of her rope and heroically maintaining composure, grabbed him by the scruff of his underpants and wedgied the boy to his feet, “For God’s sake stop blubbering like a baby. He was MY dad and you don’t see me acting like this! Man up!” I was so proud of her, as would have been her father. Generally a quiet and weirdly childlike young woman, the rest of the clan stood silent and in shock, while her blubbering cousin composed himself.

    The Irish travelers in my neck of the woods have quite a
    reputation for shiftiness, domestic dysfunction, and substance abuse, well earned for the most part. My parents had employed some on a roofing job when I was small, and ever after preferred Mexicans. She was always a little embarrassed by them
    and I understood – in truth the Peruvian blood probably was not the worst thing that could have happened to that lineage.

    I could go on and on. The stories were always comically entertaining in a lowbrow sense. She eventually went out west to earn her masters degree in Geology (“I like rocks…”) and we split up, but I’ll always remember those strange and dysfunctional folks.

    Not the worst I’ve ever met and a far sight better than Negroes or Roma…

    But, and I say this not to disparage but out of honest
    assessment, not exactly the evolutionary pinnacle of our race.

  • Iron Helm

    They are the remnants of the traditional un-anglicised faux-Catholic Gaelic nomadic bandit culture. They are in a sense the most Irish of all the Irish.

  • Iron Helm

    I am not an Ulsterman, but an Englishman with an Irish (Tipperary) father and an interest in history. Nothing you wrote even suggests that Gaelic Ireland was not a clan-based nomadic bandit culture.