Lots of Guns, Little Violence: Shooting Highlights Armed but Peaceful Iceland

Sara Miller Llana, Christian Science Monitor, December 3, 2013

A 59-year-old man was shot and killed by police who were called to the man’s apartment east of Iceland’s capital because someone reported gunshots being fired inside. It’s an event that might not even make the news in some countries.

In Reykjavik, the incident was front-page coverage and ultimately garnered a national apology from the country’s top police official: It was the first time that the country’s police have ever shot anybody in an operation. Ever.

There are many reasons for this, from a tiny population to the fact that most cops don’t even carry guns. They don’t usually need to: the overall homicide rate in Iceland for 2009 was 1. That puts its homicide rate at 0.3 per 100,000 people, compared to the US where 15,241 were killed and the rate reached 5.0 in 2009.

Surely this must mean that, unlike in the US, firearms are rare in Iceland. But that’s not the case, according to Bloomberg News’s Marc Champion, who writes:

The population of the island is 325,000, while the number of registered firearms is 90,000, which when you consider that Iceland also has children, suggests that more than a third of the population is armed. So why don’t Iceland’s police have to shoot people?

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Mr. Champion writes:

I don’t think you can say the difference is because a lot of Iceland is rural–all but about 25,000 of the population are urban dwellers. And the National Rifle Association will be pleased to hear that it can’t all be accounted for by gun ownership: True, the US has almost 90 guns per 100 people, compared with 30 per 100 in Iceland, but if gun ownership were the key difference you would expect a much narrower differential in police shootings.

The incident happened early Monday morning after officers were called to the apartment in a suburb of the capital, according to Iceland and foreign media accounts. When efforts to subdue the man failed, a special armed unit tried to enter the home. The man shot at them, then police shot back. The man died at the hospital, and the motives in this case remain unclear. Two of the police officers were slightly wounded.

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  • Alexandra1973

    Hmmm…wouldn’t have anything to do with demographics, would it? Iceland’s almost all white, isn’t it?

    It’s also interesting to note that whites are able to make Iceland habitable…and look at blacks in Africa.

    • Zaporizhian Sich

      Yes, and the Hostile Racial Aliens in control of Western nations are flooding darkie filth invaders into every one of our rightful homelands ahead of their planned global genocide against our race. I hope I live to see the day where the people responsible for this are executed, preferably by mass hanging or beheading.

    • The Final Solution

      The white man has mastered all uninhabitable environments on this world and in space even where no living thing exists. I was in Death Valley over the holiday – in 1913 they recorded the hottest temperature in history at 134 degrees. It was fascinating to learn about the history of the place and how the white man brought civilization to such a brutal environment.

      • Billy

        Was there much mention of the Timbisha tribe who’ve lived there for a thousand years even in 1100 when its believed to have reached over 140 degrees regularly?

        • Sick of it

          The Shoshone were nomadic people who lived in tepees…

        • The Final Solution

          You mean the noble natives who existed there for thousands of years without ever inventing the wheel? I wasn’t impressed. It was the white man who civilized the desert, brought mining to the region, and produced something of value out of it.

    • Paleoconn

      Actually, Iceland is not nearly as inhospitable climate-wise as its name suggests. greenland is the real icy island, despite the name, and Iceland is quite temperate in climate.

  • [Guest]

    Well, it’s obvious that Iceland’s midnight-basketball program is a smashing success!

    • Alexandra1973

      I imagine it’s midnight pretty much all day in Iceland at this time of year…. 🙂

      • [Guest]

        I hadn’t thought of that. Maybe the U.S. should follow the Icelandic model, then, and establish a ’round-the-clock midnight-basketball program for our poor, downtrodden “disadvantaged youth.”

        No doubt, they’ll be behaving as civilized as Icelanders in no time.

  • gemjunior

    So dern baffling. I’ll just never figure out why Iceland has such low gun violence.

  • Spartacus

    Because White people.

  • Luca

    And Iceland has a rate of 10% of the population below the poverty line. Oops!…another flaw in the popular liberal Poverty Theory.

    • Alexandra1973

      Speaking of poverty theory…why is it that rich blacks STILL act up? You know, the “feetsball” players and the like….

      • Luca

        Let me look this up in my “Rules for Liberal Arguments Handbook.”

        Okay, here it is, Chapter 10, “Excusing or Ignoring Bad Black Behavior”; page 256, “When accused of bad behavior, regardless of socio-economic status, try some of the following excuses: Slavery, Jim Crow, discrimination, single-parent family, inner-city schools, under served neighborhoods, global warming and White Privilege.”

        • Alexandra1973

          Is there a chapter on “personal responsibility” or is that not in their vocabulary?

        • WR_the_realist

          Don’t forget to blame those single parent black families on white skin privilege.

  • A Sailer commenter states that Reykjavik is now 6% non-white, mostly African, Palestinian and Filipino.

    My “radar” is going off.

    While this is the first time in the history of Iceland as such and its law enforcement brigades as such that it had to shoot someone, going back to the 9th century, the next one is going to happen a lot sooner than 1,300 years from now.

    Because…Reykjavik needed restaurants…or something like that.

    • Jefferson

      I am surprised Bantus can handle Iceland’s extremely cold weathers. The weather in Iceland is the extreme opposite of the the weather in Africa.

      Iceland is the icebox of the world. Yet some how these tropical Darkies are able to adapt to that type of climate.

      • The welfare checks — It makes them get used to the cold pretty easily.

      • The Final Solution

        They haven’t adapted to the harsh climate, they have only coopted the white man’s existing infrastructure. Zulus could never adapt to such conditions.

      • David Ashton

        Prettiest girls in Europe?

      • Sick of it

        I’m sure some of the local women are happy to keep them warm. Liberals.

      • Strider73

        Iceland is near the Arctic Circle, but thanks to the warm North Atlantic Current it isn’t nearly as cold as Russia or most of Canada. The national record low is -36 F while the record high is 87 F. The records for Reykjavik are -12 and 79.

        The country has a very strong free speech/free press tradition. It gave asylum to Bobby Fischer after he spat in Uncle Sam’s face. It likely would have done the same for Ed Snowden had he kept his mouth shut until he arrived there.

        • Alexandra1973

          Personally I wouldn’t mind moving there. I hear English is spoken there and I could learn Icelandic. I’m a cold-weather person to boot. 🙂

      • gemjunior

        I know, it’s sickening how they can adapt to the coldest weather. I often wondered how in the world the Somalis were able to tolerate Minnesota. Personally, I am a cold-liker and I’m always hot – can’t stand the extreme heat. I could never go anywhere in Africa (not that I would want to anyway) but the Knee Grow is always cold. They always complain it’s cold. The solution is easy – go live in the motherland!

    • Alexandra1973

      That did occur to me, the shooter being non-white.

      My bet’s on an African.

  • M.

    They hadn’t been blessed with diversity yet.

  • Anglo

    Iceland has allowed 6% non-Whites into their country? Mostly African? Can’t they learn from other Western countries that diversity doesn’t work? Big mistake.

    • dd121

      I just don’t understand why Western Civilization is so insistent on committing mass suicide.

      • Sick of it

        Karl Marx has a rather large and influential extended family.

    • haroldcrews

      According to Wikipedia as of January 2013 the population was over 93% native Icelandic and nearly all the remainder being from Europe. Of course some of these ‘Europeans’ could be originally from the Third World but I find that unlikely. Do you have any reference for the 6% figure? No African country is listed as even a source of immigrants unless they come under the 0.74% of other or stateless.

  • D.B. Cooper

    Even up in Iceland, the white male has become a cuckold. Some liberal needs to import 100,000 black Africans into Reykjavik. 90% of the white people will agree that it is a good idea, and I already know the freezing temperatures have numbed their brains faster than an AT-AT plowing through a Hoth rebel base.

  • Chip Carver

    Icelandic criminals are bad shots is all.

    The media is hiding the “troof”. Those blue-eyed devils are rapin’ ‘n killin’ alla time and y’all knows it.

    White, racially homogeneous society.

    It isn’t “liberals” importing non-Whites into White countries. It’s nation-wrecking White-hating parasites, jealous of White civilization, who are forcing non-Whites into White countries. Never having a real civilization of their own, a true, thriving civilization, is a big part of it, because it’s one of the roots of their jealousy. They can barely contain their joy now at what they’ve done to the former US.

  • bigone4u

    Blacks and browns can’t control their violent temperaments, even when it’s cold outside. Icelanders have ruined their frozen paradise and I’ll bet it’s dawning on some them today. Let’s see if the have the stones to block immigration and expel those there now. Iceland had the stones to tell the IMF to drop dead, so maybe Viking blood is still alive.

    • rowingfool

      “the Trojan Horse of Diversity”

      That’s pretty good!

  • dd121

    How’d this story get published? It doesn’t fit the narrative.

  • Sick of it

    Icelanders are less likely to attack one another due to kinship ties. Here in America we keep pushing strangers together in ever larger metropolises…and they get irritated with one another.

  • IstvanIN

    Iceland stood up to the bankers, maybe they will realize this mistake before it is too late.

  • MekongDelta69

    How many blacks and browns are there in Iceland?

    [Rhetorical question – the answer is obvious.]

  • Dave4088

    I will help unbaffle the authorities. It’s because Iceland is peopled by civilized white people who have impulse control unlike black Africans and other colored folk.

  • robinbishop34

    “Well, to be fair, it has never been unusual for large cities,
    particularly capital cities, to have significant foreign populations.”

    Yeah… what does that tell you?

  • Strike_Team

    The alien parasites running our government also do all they can to move Africans and Mestizos into the whitest areas. These creatures don’t have to worry about the cold or much else with Uncle Sam supporting them with white taxpayer money. Gotta keep them healthy so they breed.

  • Alexandra1973

    Meanwhile a lot of blacks have no idea who their baby-daddies are, and may wind up having children with a half-sibling or cousin as a result.

    • disqus_irCdmAu8It

      in 2012, the CDC released a report, that was immediately covered-up that stated in US inner-cities people are inter-breeding because they don’t know who are their own brothers and sisters. Promiscuity has a hidden price.

  • Alexandra1973

    One of my hobbies is genealogy and if my information is right, I had ancestors in Iceland in the 9th century. Been a while. 🙂

  • Joseph

    Iceland will have its own brand of liberals calling for an immediate new restrictions on firearms because of the huge upsurge in gun violence.

    Obama will offer Eric Holder as an advisor.

  • haroldcrews

    Besides there being very few racial minorities there is also little ethnic diversity. Iceland is close to a perfect storm of homogeneity. The crime rate would probably be higher if there was a mixture of various European ethnicities at significant levels. At least that is my suspicion though not near what you would see with a substantial percentage of African or Muslim immigrants. The higher the levels of homogeneity the more harmonious the society.

  • DiversityIsDeath

    Check out this dumb quote from the original article: “The author-researcher of the BBC crime study, Andrew Clark of Boston’s Suffolk University Law School, attributed the low incidence of violent crime in Iceland to the absence of class distinctions in a country where 97% identify themselves as middle class.”

    According to this racially oblivious crime authority Andrew Clark, it is the absence of CLASS DISTINCTIONS (not the absence of minorities) which accounts for Iceland’s low crime rate. After all, Clark claims 97% of the population identify themselves as middle class. So THAT’S the reason Iceland has a low crime rate, see?

  • David Ashton

    Chacun a son gout.

    • David Ashton

      PS. I am now a little too old to verify your recommendation experimentally, but I remember “Wilmot Robertson” saying that young blacks in the USA prefer to take their holidays in Scandinavia than the Congo.

  • 80% of white Britons are descended from the 14th century King Edward III.

    Everyone is a descendant of someone important.

  • negrolocaust

    i avoid black people. i do not shop, get gas, or go anywhere that they are around. even on t.v. if i see blacks i turn the channel. this way i have peace of mind. blacks are troublemakers. stay away from them.